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Snow Won’t Comment On 18-Day Gap: ‘I’ve Been Led To Believe There’s A Good Response For It’

Researchers have discovered an 18-day gap in the 3,000 documents on the U.S. Attorney purge released this week by the Justice Department. The gap extends from mid-November to early December, “which was a critical period as the White House and Justice Department reviewed, then approved, which U.S. attorneys would be fired while also developing a political and communications strategy for countering any fallout from the firings.”

During today’s press briefing, CNN’s Ed Henry noted that one of the last emails before the gap is from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ ex-chief of staff Kyle Sampson to then-White House Counsel Harriet Miers, asking, “Who will determine whether this requires the president’s attention?”

White House spokesman Tony Snow refused to explain the gap, telling reporters, “I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good response for it.” He said President Bush “has no recollection of this ever being raised with him.” Watch it:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/03/snow18day.320.240.flv]

Digg It!

UPDATE: Atrios notes, “[Snow] looked really really uncomfortable.

UPDATE: II: Snow last week on the possibility of Bush’s involvement: “Anything’s possible.

UPDATE III: The email:

miers

Transcript:

HENRY: You keep saying the Justice Department, the response, the 3,000 pages, unprecedented, it’s very responsive. Why then is these this gap from mid-November to about December 4, right before the actual firings? Why is there a gap in the emails?

SNOW: I don’t know, why don’t you ask them.

HENRY: Well, you’re the White House, the Justice Department serves under…

SNOW: I know, but I’m not going to be the fact witness on Justice.

HENRY: But you’re the one representing that be this has been very responsive. Now when there’s a gap, you say go to them —

SNOW: Yeah, and I’ve been led to believe — I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good response for it, but I’m going to let you ask them because they’re going to have the answer.

HENRY: Now, here’s one email from November 15 that says, from Mr. Simpson to Harriet Miers, “Who will determine whether this requires the president’s attention?” And then there is a gap in emails. Was there any, you think, perhaps any email about the president in there? And did the president have to sign off on this, because the question was raised…

SNOW: The president has no recollection of this ever being raised with him.

[...]

REPORTER: For the record, this gap between mid-november and early december — is there a gap because there are no e-mails pertaining to this situation between them? Or are there more e-mails to come out?

SNOW: That I don’t know. Like I said, that’s why I think you need to go back and ask the Department of Justice. They’ve done the document production. We have not been in charge of it. I would refer questions to them.

REPORTER: Just to follow, can you say again on the record that the president has no recollection of ever being asked about any of this?

SNOW: Yeah, the removal — yes, that is correct.



133 Responses to “Snow Won’t Comment On 18-Day Gap: ‘I’ve Been Led To Believe There’s A Good Response For It’”

  1. Raven says:

    “I’ve been led to believe….”
    Yes, well, we know that…..


  2. hellinabucket says:

    How many minutes were missing on the Nixon tapes?


  3. Kiki says:

    18 minutes…18 days….how positively Nixonian can these people get?


  4. scott says:

    Wow …..this is getting interesting…..


  5. JesusChrist_GodofWAR says:

    I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good reason NeoKons and ReichWingNuts and ChristoFascists hate America. I’d sure like to hear it but it must be in that 18 day gap.

    Who would have guessed BushCo would be just as arrogant and oblivious of the obvious truth as Tricky Dick?

    ITMFA now!!!


  6. null says:

    ‘I’ve Been Led To Believe There’s A Good Response For It’
    response? why not an answer?


  7. K says:

    I thought Rosemary Woods was dead?


  8. dlet says:

    SNOW: The president has no recollection of this ever being raised with him.

    Somebody should check the water supply at teh White House. There has to be something causing all this memory loss.


  9. R says:

    Bush has no recollection because he has no f*ing brain, you twit. It’s as I told you before, the eighteen days of missing e-mails are shoved tight up into Karl’s bulbous, derriere-ass. Check it out! Get a federal protologist over there, right away! It’s an e-moi-gency!


  10. Frank Cornbread says:

    Sure. Right. Whatever, Mister Snow. How exactly do you sleep at night?


  11. Larry from C says:

    SUBPOENA THE PUBLIC SERVANTS!


  12. legaleze says:

    This is all the more reason why testimony of administration functionaries and politicos must be in public and under oath. What we need is someone to get out in front of this “executive privilege” nonsense. In other words we need talking points based on good research as to why executive privilege is not a bar to Congress getting the testimony of members of this administration on a matter of oversight so critical as the independence of the attorney generals of this country!

    Who knows anything about executive privilege?


  13. Larry from C says:

    While they’re at it could they please explain the Downing Street memos as well?


  14. The Commissar says:

    I am working to document the 18-day gap.

    http://acepilots.com/mt/2007/03/21/an-18-day-gap

    Rather tedious. :)


  15. Ben Dover says:

    I feel like Sam Irvin should be sitting at the head of a table in the hearing room on the Hill, and John Dean is sitting at the witness table saying “There is a cancer on the Presidency.”

    Wasn’t it Yogi Berra who once said “its deja vu all over again”??


  16. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    Oh I’m sure theres a perfectly logical explanation.

    I’m sure out of the 2000 emails these 18 days that just HAPPENED to be the days in question were just innocently deleted.

    Deleted off the hard drives.

    Deleted off the servers.

    Deleted from the tape backups.

    I’m sure its all very innocent.

    :|

    Anybody wanna buy a bridge?


  17. legaleze says:

    “Get a federal protologist over there, right away!” Too funny! Thanks.


  18. SouthWest Bob says:

    “In nasty and bumbling comments made at the White House yesterday, President Bush declared that ‘people just need to hear the truth’ about the firing of eight United States attorneys.

    Guess hearing or reading the truth will be a bit more difficult now…..


  19. Marq says:

    I think what int he 18 day gap we will find the truth. The AG’s were let go on Dec 7th, so we are asked to trust the White House that in the weeks before the ax dropped the White House went silent?

    Hmmm, I think we have found the tapes Mr. Nixon.


  20. Kay says:

    Ooooh. Poor Baby. Is the heat getting too much for you!
    Why don’t you and Mitt Romney go open up a used car lot and be done with it.


  21. Raven says:

    …there were 18 hours of missing video footage from Jodi Fosters extra-terrestrial trip in the movie ‘Contact
    (theme from the Twilight Zone now playing in your head)


  22. R says:

    Is Tony Snow-job bowing his head in prayer to his God, the Dark Lord of Hates and Hell? Hail, Satan!


  23. Tsop says:

    Eddy Henry has been eating his Wheaties lately!


  24. EvilPoet says:

    BushCo is standing on a foundation made of lying and deceit. A foundation built on lies and deception crumbles under the weight of the truth. And where is God in all of this? Bush claims that God speaks through him. If that’s the case, what does that say about God? On the other hand, if Bush is making that claim and it’s not true, Proverbs 6:16-19 indicates that God will not be pleased.


  25. Jake says:

    I’ll comment after I get my right wing talking points in order.


  26. RUCerious says:

    We have experts in forensic data recovery who can pull these emails off the servers they were routed through.
    Bring em on.


  27. Raven says:

    #20… Kay…
    funny!
    They can sell Dodge K-cars and Pacers…


  28. Kay says:

    We all know when something comes up missing whether it’s e-mails, tapes etc. — this administration is hiding something. That’s what this administration has been about all along : deceptions, lies, “I don’t recall”, “I misspoke”, “Ask someone else”

    It’s all about smoke and mirrors and deflection.
    I think what Senate needs to look for is the BIG CRIME underneath. Somewhere there is a BIG CRIME.

    And I bet it’s in those 18 pages.


  29. Larry from C says:

    from the file of truer today than ever…

    “There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.”

    Senator Daniel K. Inouye at the Iran Contra Hearings


  30. JesusChrist_GodofWAR says:

    The irony!

    18 is a magic number with the GOP. History about to repeat itself?


  31. Dr Benway says:

    Bush: “We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants.”

    But the Congress wants to have have Rove and Mieirs testify, so I don’t see the problem.


  32. bktzoo says:

    Bush’s staff were talking about firing ALL 93 USAs and Bush “has no recollection of this ever being raised with him”? Isn’t Bush the one who actually does the firing? The White House could not have screwed this up more spectacularly. In the scheme of things though, this seems like a constitutional mountain over a molehill. But then again, who knows what will come out.


  33. Jake Blows Goats says:

    For once, Jake is too busy with his goats?

    The trolls seem to have scattered.


  34. doro says:

    23 comments and no Jake and Patrick1 in sight. It gets harder to explain the scandal away by the day.

    BTW Ed Henry and the other MSM reporters: Things must look pretty bleak for the President and the White House if these “pillars of free speech” finally find their voice and ask the hard questions they should have asked all along.


  35. Jake says:

    My talking points are being faxed over right now from the Troll cave.


  36. Spudge_Boy says:

    17 minutes = 18 days

    Let’s all keep in mind that Dick Cheney worked for Richard Nixon.


  37. JPV says:

    My God, it really is an 18 day gap?

    That’s way too strange to just be a coincidence.


  38. Dumb_Fox says:

    Of all the incredibly f*cking stupid things possible when you are being investigated, leaving a gaping hole in the chronology is about the dumbest thing imaginable.

    It is a bright red flag to anyone with an IQ above room temperature… sheesh, even Mike Allen figured it out.


  39. Raven says:

    Take a break, jake, at this pace your talking points will be obsolete before you can hit the
    ‘Post-I agree’ button..


  40. Zooey says:

    Since Chimpy is worse than Nixon, his gap just had to be wider.

    I don’t understand the technology, but I love technology. :-)


  41. DRxJ says:

    Just curious….
    where are the trolls to defend these missing 18 documents?

    howsadiam should be here debating as only he/she/it can!


  42. SKdeA says:

    #14, does this mean you have posted the missing docs?
    I see you have a request for commenters to help read through these docs you posted, are these the missing ones? It’s a little unclear. If they are the missing ones, THANK YOU for this!!!


  43. Tuber says:

    Why does “I’ve been led to believe” sound so similar to “I’ve been assured”? One utter by Snow regarding this anti-American travesty, the other spewed by McClellan regarding Rove and Libby saying that they weren’t involved in the outing of an undercover CIA operative.

    All that we need now is for Snow to say something to the effect of “you guys know me and like me…” to the press pool in a last-ditch effort to create credibility for himself and the nonsense that he feeds them.

    Good riddance Snow, and may hell welcome you with the open arms that you truly deserve.


  44. Grand Moff Texan says:

    Tony also wondered why oaths and transcripts are necessary.

    What a joke the Republicans have become.
    .


  45. Cali4nian says:

    “I’ve been led to believe there’s a good response to it” — they just haven’t thought of it yet.


  46. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Sheesh…when I heard about this gap yesterday, I opined that it was an 18-day gap, paralleling (in absurd extreme) the 18-minute gap in the Watergate tapes.

    Life imitates satire yet again in the topsy-turvy world of the Chimpy Administration.


  47. Raven says:

    .. more than likely the gaping hole in the chronology is still not as damaging as what those e-mails contained….


  48. Badmoodman says:

    Tony Snow doesn’t want to be McClellanized by this same group.


  49. Peter says:

    Name-jacking should stop. It’s just as wrong for trolls as for anyone else.


  50. Dumb_Fox says:

    Tony Snow last week: USAs serve at the pleasure of the President.

    Tony Snow this week: The President had no idea if USAs were going to be fired.

    As ever, wingnut talking points end up blowing each other up.


  51. VerbalKint says:

    Troll activity seems down a bit today. Howsad frenzied for a while this morning, and Flaco got off a few rounds of flaming stupidity, but for the most part the crew is barely plodding along. Half of them aren’t even here.


  52. mrJJ says:

    It Wasn’t Just a Bad Idea. It May Have Been Against the Law.

    exerpts below

    it was not hard to spot that White House and Justice Department officials, and members of Congress, may have violated 18 U.S.C. §§ 1501-1520, the federal obstruction of justice statute.

    1. Misrepresentations to Congress. The relevant provision, 18 U.S.C. § 1505, is very broad. It is illegal to lie to Congress, and also to “impede” it in getting information. Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty indicated to Congress that the White House’s involvement in firing the United States attorneys was minimal, something that Justice Department e-mail messages suggest to be untrue.

    If Mr. Sampson withheld the information from Mr. McNulty, who then misled Congress, Mr. Sampson may have violated § 1505.

    2. Calling the Prosecutors. As part of the Sarbanes-Oxley reforms, Congress passed an extremely broad obstruction of justice provision, 18 U.S.C. § 1512 (c), which applies to anyone who corruptly “obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,” including U.S. attorney investigations.

    3. Witness Tampering. 18 U.S.C. § 1512 (b) makes it illegal to intimidate Congressional witnesses. Michael Elston, Mr. McNulty’s chief of staff, contacted one of the fired attorneys, H. E. Cummins, and suggested, according to Mr. Cummins, that if he kept speaking out, there would be retaliation.

    4. Firing the Attorneys. United States attorneys can be fired whenever a president wants, but not, as § 1512 (c) puts it, to corruptly obstruct, influence, or impede an official proceeding.

    Let’s take the case of Carol Lam, United States attorney in San Diego. The day the news broke that Ms. Lam, who had already put one Republican congressman in jail, was investigating a second one, Mr. Sampson wrote an e-mail message referring to the “real problem we have right now with Carol Lam.” He said it made him think that it was time to start looking for a replacement.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/opinion/19mon4.html?ex=1331956800&en=ffab854496251b4b&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss


  53. DRxJ says:

    missing 18 documents?
    Comment by DRxJ — March 21, 2007 @ 2:20 pm

    This, of course, should actually read 18 days of missing documents

    See? See? See what happens when you try and debate at howsadiam, I Heart Terrorists and patrick1inch’s level???


  54. RUCerious says:

    Ahhh, a troll free thread.
    Must be the anti kryptonite, or maybe the TRUTH.


  55. VerbalKint says:

    Excuse me, I need to lawyer up before tackling this question.

    Tony Snow


  56. Jake says:

    Sorry, guys, but I was occupied on the previous thread. If you want me to comment here too, I will.


  57. oldtree says:

    can you imagine a country where public officials were required to tell the truth?. I would vote for that.


  58. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    “I’ve been led to believe there’s a good response to it” — they just haven’t thought of it yet”

    TRANSLATION

    “In order for me to come out here and lie to your faces like you were all a bunch of ignorant serfs, they had to lie to me, so I could pretend to believe it”.


  59. hellinabucket says:

    wasn’t Karl Rove and assistant to someone in the Nixon Administration during Watergate?


  60. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Kiki sez:

    18 is a magic number with the GOP.

    Well, 18 does equal 6 + 6 + 6…

    Hmmm…..6…6…6. Now where have I seen those numbers before?

    ^_^


  61. Jake says:

    Grand Moff Texan:

    Can Congress subpoena the President of the United States?


  62. Non-Troll says:

    But but Clinton was 18 once too! So there!


  63. Zooey says:

    #46 – TMM,

    Since Nixon and other were pardoned, the corrupt neo-cons and their supporters learned nothing from that experience. This country is worse for it, in my opinion.

    18 minutes then, and 18 days now. I find that so symbolic.

    They must learn now.


  64. Midwest Product says:

    There is a second gap in the document paper trail as well, covering the final 48 hours prior to the firings. The last pre-massacre email is from AM December 5 (in which Paul McNulty actually expresses reservations “again” about firing USA Bogden). The next message in the document dump is on December 7 after the phone calls had started.


  65. Spudge_Boy says:

    Grand Moff Texan:

    Can Congress subpoena the President of the United States?

    Comment by Jake — March 21, 2007 @ 2:28 pm

    No need to wate time with a subpoena, just go straight to the Impeachment.


  66. idlecrank says:

    Hmmm…let’s see what those reasons might be.

    1) The dog ate the print outs
    2) You know that guy up in Alaska who erased those hard drives? Well, he used to work at the White House
    3) Dick Cheney said we don’t have to give Congress anything we don’t want to give
    4) The missing emails contain evidence of multiple impeachable offenses
    5) Laura is still checking the emails for spelling mistakes
    6) The President doesn’t use email so nothing in the missing emails is important
    7) We we working hard on other issues during that time frame and thus no work was done on purging US Attorneys
    8) Emails what emails?
    9) We have a note from Barbara Bush
    10) “Shut it!


  67. katy says:

    ok … write down this number… capitol switchboard:

    8 6 6 . 2 2 0 . 0 0 4 4 … kindly ask for the rep of your choice…

    remind them/him/her:

    * there are plenty of criminal acts
    * get the evidence
    * INDICT
    * NOW

    ALL OF THEM UNDER OATH.
    NO EXCEPTIONS. UNDER OATH.

    thank you…


  68. Jake says:

    Poor liberals, Clinton was missing 18 minutes, too. So much noise, so little truth. Why do you want to hate so much, liberals?


  69. jman_nyc says:

    The attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president so they can only be fired at the pleasure of the president. So for Snow to say the president has no recollection indicates a massive faulty memory coverup is underway. The president must have been briefed and must have approved these firings because – THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE PRESIDENT AND THEREFORE MUST BE FIRED AT THE PLEASURE OF THE PRESIDENT AS WELL. IF BUSH APPROVED THE FIRINGS IN ORDER TO STOP INVESTIGATIONS THEN HE IS GUILTY OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.


  70. Angry One says:

    For the latest news, email archives, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
    “The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”


  71. katy says:

    has anyone mentioned the obvious?

    …one of the last emails before the gap…

    oops! forgot that one…

    surely there were some innocuous ones during that span to have kept in the bunch and make it not so obvious… no?
    huh…


  72. RUCerious says:

    OK, those of you who think Bush had no knowledge of this, at any time, raise your right hoof and wag your pointy tail.


  73. SouthWest Bob says:

    Ed Henry Finds a Nut

    CNN:

    I think also, another thing to look at, I followed up a question about executive privilege. You heard Tony Snow at the end there saying the president has no recollection of being involved in this decision to fire the US attorneys. So we asked the question then, well why are you citing executive privilege – or at least suggesting you will, and yesterday the president said the principle at stake here is candid advice from his advisers to the president – if the president was not involved in the decision, then how can you cite executive privilege on something he was really not involved in? And Tony Snow basically said, it’s a good question and I don’t know the answer.

    -Atrios 2:07 PM

    Logic will bite them in the butt!


  74. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    Snow can hem and haw and stonewall until he’s blue in the face, but there isn’t a person out there that doesn’t know that when someone says they’ll testify, as long as they don’t have to swear to tell the truth, then they intend to lie.

    Snow can convolute and speculate and hypothosize and embellish, but at the end of the day, there is absolutely NO excuse for someone demanding that their testimony not be under oath unless they plan to lie.


  75. DaryllsGayLover says:

    Here I sit so broken hearted
    came to JAKE but only farted.


  76. katy says:

    shoot! i missed the details…
    heard on thom hartmann just now that tony snow just blew his boss’s cover…

    hey TP !!!


  77. Jake says:

    Katy Katy Katy . . . why do I rub poo in my hair and froth at the mouth? Poor hating liberals, why does us not get the precious?


  78. Kay says:

    He’s America’s Joseph Goebbels. As a 21-year old Young Republican in Texas, Karl Rove not only pimped for Richard Nixon’s chief political dirty tricks strategist Donald Segretti but soon caught the eye of the incoming Republican National Committee Chairman, George H. W. Bush. Rove’s dirty tricks on behalf of Nixon’s 1972 campaign catapulted Rove onto the national stage. From his Eagle’s Nest in the West Wing of the White House, Rove now directs a formidable political dirty tricks operation and disinformation mill.


  79. DRxJ says:

    Poor liberals, Clinton was missing 18 minutes, too. So much noise, so little truth. Why do you want to hate so much, liberals?
    Comment by Jake — March 21, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

    Is it me, or did this post make absolutely no sense?
    Jake, stick to approving rape, or threatening to bomb buildings in New York. Your so much funnier at those topics! NOT!

    Buh bhuh buh buh buh but Clinton……..


  80. Zooey says:

    Poor liberals, Clinton was missing 18 minutes, too. So much noise, so little truth. Why do you want to hate so much, liberals?
    Comment by Jake

    You’re the only one showing up here with rape jokes.

    Why are you such an ass? Prostate surgery didn’t go well?


  81. DRxJ says:

    This so bares repeating….

    if the president was not involved in the decision, then how can you cite executive privilege on something he was really not involved in

    Can we now begin to impeach???


  82. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    Grand Moff Texan:

    Can Congress subpoena the President of the United States?

    Comment by Jerk — March 21, 2007 @ 2:28 pm

    Yes.

    Any other questions?


  83. doro says:

    # 69

    If Mr Bush has no recollection of having been involved in this issue, he is culpable of neglect. He has broken his oath to work for the people of the United States.

    If he has been involved and has ho recollection, he is unfit for his duties.

    If he hasn’t been involved he is dysfunctional in his office and a puppet to outside interests.

    If he has been involved and does indeed remember it, he is lying through his press secretary to his people.

    Turn it every whichway you want it. This whole scandal and it’s handling by the administration is an abominable affront against the people of the US.


  84. Chadwick says:

    I’m sure the resident trolls can give us SOME ridiculously slanderous explanation of the missing 18 days. Anyone? Buehler?


  85. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    Sorry, guys, but I was occupied on the previous thread. If you want me to comment here too, I will.

    Comment by Joke — March 21, 2007 @ 2:26 pm

    I don’t know.

    Can you talk with a mouth full of your own ass?


  86. Chadwick says:

    This so bares repeating….

    if the president was not involved in the decision, then how can you cite executive privilege on something he was really not involved in

    Can we now begin to impeach???

    Comment by DRxJ —

    Oooo. Now that’s a good one.


  87. Raven says:

    As I mentioned before, a ‘jake’ is a juvenile turkey, not yet of breeding age…
    During the mating season, they are ostracized from the rest of the flock, their normally wary senses compromised by an imbalance of turkey testosterone.
    They become easy prey for many predators.
    Ravens do exceptionally well this time of year, having lots of leftovers to pick at.


  88. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    In fact Jake, like you buddy Nixon, Bush could be subpeonad “duces tecum”.


  89. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    In case you’re wondering Jake, Duces Tecum = BYON.

    Bring your own noose.


  90. Raven says:

    “Ask not for whom the e-mail determines, it determines for thee…”


  91. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony « Constitution Club says:

    [...] Tony Snow really looked like he wished Fox News had never loaned him to the White House today as he tried to explain the eighteen minute day gap in the document dump the DoJ provided. The gap followed an e-mail to Harriet Meyers asking if the president needed to be informed about [...]


  92. Suburban Guerrilla » The Return of Rosemary Woods says:

    [...] no, a mysterious gap: Researchers have discovered an 18-day gap in the 3,000 documents on the U.S. Attorney purge [...]


  93. Kansas Wind says:

    Now we know or can assume the reason why Harriet Miers left the services of the President. She knew she was going to be in trouble when the U.S. Attorneys started talking to each other. “Cut and Run Harriet.”

    She found out that there was no way to save Bush and Rove this time around.


  94. hellinabucket says:

    Awesome Raven.

    Update number 3 looks like question number 1 to Ms. Miers.


  95. Think Progress » ‘An intriguing question.’ says:

    [...] to “privileged communications with close staff members.” But he also stated that “the president has no recollection” of conversations about the attorney firings being raised with him. That means, as [...]


  96. DallasNE says:

    These kinds of political operations never go on in a vacuum as Snow would lead you to believe. There is little doubt in my mind that Bush not only gave clearance for this but that he also ordered the review in the beginning.

    The issue is abuse of power, plain and simple. Don’t let the snark to the contrary deflect away from this main point.

    Further, there will not be a satisfactory answer for the missing 18 days data. Obviously, they will point to technical problems but security of this data is required under law so there must be accountability. Firing the security officer does not represent accountability. We’re talking jail time here, folks, and not of the security officer either but the one giving the orders to the security officer.


  97. big papa says:

    “I’ve been led to believe there’s a good response for it…

    …which we’re working on at this moment…”

    -Tony Snowjob-

    WOW! I’m lovin’ this sh*t…

    …The sea monster is out of the cave…

    …for ALL who dare gaze upon it…


  98. RUCerious says:

    I’ve been led to believe there’s a good response for it…

    …which we’re working on at this moment…”

    Translated ~ We are working at this moment with focus groups to determine which line of BS is most credible.
    We’ll notify you when the decider has decided.


  99. N=1 says:

    Re: “I’ve been led to believe….”

    Who is doing the leading?

    And are you being led blindfolded, handcuffed and in irons?

    Or is that a nose ring you’re wearing, Tony?


  100. Dreary Urbanite says:

    Jake – we liberals don’t spend a lot of time hating. We are too busy having abortions, anal sex, and worshiping Satan to hate. You must be thinking of all of the closeted conservatives.


  101. chimpeach says:

    REPORTER: Just to follow, can you say again on the record that the president has no recollection of ever being asked about any of this?

    SNOW: Yeah, the removal — yes, that is correct.

    Then how can Bush say that the firings were entirely appropriate and all performance-related when he doesn’t even know anything about them? We keep hearing his defenders say that he can fire U.S. attorneys anytime he wants and for any reason. Does that mean that he fired these attorneys? It sounds like it was his responsibility or that he signed off on it. But, he doesn’t know anything about them? And he’s still saying they were appropriate?

    They’re not going to win this one. And the more they fight it, the worse the beating is going to be.


  102. marcus robinson says:

    LYING SACK OF S***!!!!


  103. Jo-Ann says:

    This story has legs, daddy longlegs. Eighteen days of emails from the outside in. How many still hidden from the White House OUT??? What can br done to defend against wholesale destruction of hard drives? This crowd isn’t above doing nasty stuff. Fred Fielding has a reputation as a straight shooter. Will he have the clout to prevent more bad behavior? I’d love to be a fly on the wall…..


  104. woobot says:

    “SNOW: The president has no recollection of this ever being raised with him.”

    Someone needs to ask Snow if there are any documents that indicate that the matter of the USA’s resignations was ever raised with Bush or if anyone else at the WH has any recollection of ever raising it with Bush.


  105. stonehinge says:

    Hey WORFEUS, I saw your question this morning:

    Yes, by DDOS’d I did mean distributed denial of service. It was a huge attack, forcing the server to be shutdown. I won’t be at all surprised if we see more of these attacks to interrupt the national discourse.


  106. Publicus says:

    The American people aren’t going to be “led to believe” anymore. Bush lies, Americans die.


  107. The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS says:

    Yes, by DDOS’d I did mean distributed denial of service. It was a huge attack, forcing the server to be shutdown. I won’t be at all surprised if we see more of these attacks to interrupt the national discourse.

    Comment by stonehinge — March 21, 2007 @ 4:28 pm

    I am confused. What server are you referring to? Is this a server you run somewhere?


  108. shane says:

    This so bares repeating….

    if the president was not involved in the decision, then how can you cite executive privilege on something he was really not involved in

    Can we now begin to impeach???

    Comment by DRxJ — March 21, 2007 @ 2:41 pm

    And if they were fired because they serve at the pleasure of the President doesn’t he have to know they are being fired. So is Snow saying somebody else is assuming the President’s responsibilities. And if wasn’t the President’s pleasure why were they fired.
    And if somebody else had a reason for firing them, whatever the reason, and didn’t tell the President, why would they have executive privilege?


  109. Tobey Tall says:

  110. mobiusein says:

    18 minutes/18 days = 6 + 6 + 6 or the number 666.

    According to an entry in Wikipedia, we have the following description of the number 666, among others:

    The number 666 retains a peculiar significance in the culture and psychology of Western societies, where some perceive it as “the Devil’s number”, even in contexts usually remote from superstition. The fear of the number 666 is called hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia.

    Do you think the devil’s behind these Republican presidential gaps?


  111. dono says:

    ‘I’ve Been Led To Believe There’s A Good Response For It’

    Good enought for me – move along, nothing to see here…


  112. bill shea says:

    …did Tony Snow ever work at Disneyland?


  113. big papa says:

    but for the most part the crew is barely plodding along. Half of them aren’t even here.

    Comment by VerbalKint #51

    Yeah VerbalKint,

    v v must be in court today…

    …answering charges of…

    …impersonating a lawyer…


  114. sybelia says:

    WHY ARE YOU POSTING ON THIS WEB SITE????

    The majority of people reading this web site already know what is going on. Go post these comments and these articles on the fundamentalist Christian, the Catholic, the Catholic latino, the NRA, and the anti-abortion web sites.

    Doing anything here is a waste of time.

    If you are going to speak out and risk your own freedom (your IP address here is forever archived by the US govt) then may as well make it count. That is, while you still have access to the Internet.

    The Internet remains free to you because it allows the government to identify government dissenters.

    They know where you live. You will be hunted down 2, 5, even 15 years from now for what you are posting online today.

    Make it count!

    http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/49275/?comments=view&cID=619053&pID=618975#c619053


  115. Com-n-sense says:

    Barney ate them …


  116. Com-n-sense says:

    Lying is hard work.

    I have been in awe to the magnitude in which this government lies. It has been simply amassing to watch as they lie as easily as they would order a ham sandwich.

    I don’t know if the people are sick of it all enough to do something about it? After all this time there are bigger lies than the purge of some lawyers. On the scale of things this is like jay-walking to man-slaughter.


  117. Com-n-sense says:

    I got it!

    Clinton did it!


  118. Raymond Funamoto says:

    THIS IS THE PHENOMENON KNOWN AS “SELECTIVE AMNESIA” THAT AFFECTS CHIMPya, FRANKENCheney, FAT-F*CK Rove, “Colostomy-Bag” Snow and other members of Bushland Uber Allies WHEN THEY ARE QUESTIONED ON SENSITIVE POINTS THAT MAY COME BACK TO HAUNT THEM, OR GOD WILLING, HANG THEM FROM THE HIGHEST TREE!!!!!


  119. Mike says:

    HAHA! The President can’t remember anything. Sounds like Libby huh? “I just don’t know” hehehe

    -==-=-=-=-=-=-=–==-=-=-=-=-=-=–==-=-=-=-=-=-=–==-=-=-=
    America needs a true patriot, the media has blacked him out!!
    However he was able to get a plug on Fox!:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyEfd2ZxlGM

    Check him out!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHxQGSiuLf4
    -==-=-=-=-=-=-=–==-=-=-=-=-=-=–==-=-=-=-=-=-=–==-=-=-=


  120. 18-day gap at says:

    [...] Researchers discover 18-day gap in the 3,000 documents on the U.S. Attorney purge released this week by the Justice Department. [...]


  121. Think Progress » BREAKING: Gonzales Approved Firings Of U.S. Attorneys says:

    [...] the firings on Nov. 27. Seven of the eight prosecutors were let go on Dec. 7.” The meeting fell during the 18-day gap in documents the Justice Department had previously [...]


  122. Grouchy’s Liberaltopiaâ„¢ » Breaking: Abu Gonzales Lied To Congress says:

    [...] about the firings on Nov. 27. Seven of the eight prosecutors were let go on Dec. 7.” The meeting occurred during the 18-day gap in documents the Justice Department had previously [...]


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