Bush, Cheney, Gonzales blocked Gitmo closing.
Bush, Cheney, Gonzales blocked Gitmo closing.
From the New York Times:
In his first weeks as defense secretary, Robert M. Gates repeatedly argued that the detention facility at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, had become so tainted abroad that legal proceedings at Guantánamo would be viewed as illegitimate, according to senior administration officials. He told President Bush and others that it should be shut down as quickly as possible. [...]
Mr. Gates’s arguments were rejected after Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and some other government lawyers expressed strong objections to moving detainees to the United States, a stance that was backed by the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, administration officials said.
As Mr. Gates was making his case, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice joined him in urging that the detention facility be shut down, administration officials said. But the high-level discussions about closing Guantánamo came to a halt after Mr. Bush rejected the approach.
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March 22nd, 2007 at 10:52 pmI was wondering when Cheney would crawl out from under his rock again–should have known it would have continued with more bad decisions by the neocon wing of the Bush White House. Looks like Mr. Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had better get in line on the double.
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:52 pmbig surprise.
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmGWB et al bring Gates on board as Sec of Defense, but won’t let him do his job.
Gates must want to do a good job.
Can’t have that happening….
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:05 pmI was just thinking about guantanamo today. that place needs to be shut down. this is pretty uninspiring news. 6 years of these people has me pretty sickened.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:07 pmCHIMPya–FRANKENCheney–Gonzo—–WAR CRIMINALS ALL, AND MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!!!
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:10 pmFor more news, documents and other key materials regarding Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and detention policies, see:
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:10 pm“The Torture Scandal Resources.”
Gates must want to do a good job.
Can’t have that happening….
Comment by Zooey
If he had Honor, Gates would publicly resign and state as his reasons publicly if that is the case.
Not holding my breath for any neocon to show any honor, though
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:16 pmThe easiest way to shut down Gitmo, end the war, replace the fired attorneys, reduce gas prices, and a whole bunch of other good things is simply impeach Bush and Cheney and fire the rest of the Bastards. We can do it, the Dems can help.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmWayne, I agree with you. If Gates is a decent person, and he may be so, he would resign his position, preserving his own honor and demonstrating that Bush&Co are incorrigible and corrupt to an extent never before seen in American history.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:18 pmAt the end of the day, only supporters of Bush will go to Heaven.
So I mean it in the literal sense when I say you liberals can go to hell.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:20 pmDo you ever get the feeling, they are actually trying to irreparably damage our national reputation?
Seeing as how hostile BushCorp feels towards the UN, it makes sense that they would try to sabotage all future efforts at international diplomacy. That’s a great way to pump up arms sales, after all.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:21 pmAt the end of the day, only supporters of Bush will go to Heaven.
So I mean it in the literal sense when I say you liberals can go to hell.
Comment by firehead — March 22, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
Yeah, as he explained over and over again in the Gospels, Jesus loves torture, rape and mass murder so much that you will all have places of honor in His house.
Tell us, are you hearing voices again? You should probably get back on your meds.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:24 pmIf he had Honor, Gates would publicly resign and state as his reasons publicly if that is the case.
Not holding my breath for any neocon to show any honor, though
Comment by Wayne
Of course! He wouldn’t do that good of a job!
Honor, schmonor!
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:24 pmSo I mean it in the literal sense when I say you liberals can go to hell.
Comment by firehead
I’ll save you a seat.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:25 pmThat’s always been their strategy to be duplicitous.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:27 pmfirehead sez:
You know, I could throw some quotes from that magic book you profess to follow in your face, and show everyone just how ridiculously off-base you truly are…
But it’s late, I’m tired, and you’re just not worth the effort. It’s easier to just call you stupid.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 pmWhy shut it down when it may well become the future home of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales and a whole host of national ex-leaders who are and will be condemned as terrorists themselves? Let them all rot there. THAT, would be sweet justice and the irony would be totally satisfying.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 pmDo you ever get the feeling, they are actually trying to irreparably damage our national reputation?
Comment by War4Sale
I really don’t think they even give a damn.
Almost all of Bush’s cabinet was PNAC.
PNAC pushed exploiting the position of the US being the world’s Hegemon.
Read the site, their plan is for a Pan-Americana World Empire.
Only theyhave made such a f*cked up mess of it.
The whole thing reads like bad cartoon script of Pinky and the Brain with an Orwellian twist, in a very bloody, demented way.
Bush is their puppet meglomaniac, with Cheney and Rove holding the strings.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:34 pmI lived in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba for two years as a child. It was a great place to be a kid — lots of freedom to run. It should have stayed that way.
I hate that Gitmo’s been tainted by these criminals and their prison.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:37 pmIf there ever was an easy target for pulling funds, this is it. Needs to be broadened to cover those other secret prisons. Sorry – what secret prison… ?
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:41 pmBush is their puppet meglomaniac, with Cheney and Rove holding the strings.
Comment by Wayne — March 22, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
No doubt about it!
When you consider just how willing they were to send 3,000 Americans to their deaths, not to mention hundreds of thousands of Iraqis all over total lies, it’s not much of a stretch to imagine them allowing the planes to hit the Twin Towers and the Pentagon to give them the “Pearl Harbor like event” they needed to set the whole insane plan in motion.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:41 pmWayne: I can’t understand why “conservatives” simply stand by and cheer on Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld and the neocons as they destroy the Republican Party. These guys are neither conservative nor Republican, but as long as they keep the (R) next to their name, the “base” is happy.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 pmI lived in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba for two years as a child. It was a great place to be a kid — lots of freedom to run. It should have stayed that way. — Zooey
Thats one base my dad was never stationed at. Sounds like it would have been cool
But now now, though. Evil Done has a way of tainting walls, even the ground of an area.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:47 pmAt the end of the day, only supporters of Bush will go to Heaven.
So I mean it in the literal sense when I say you liberals can go to hell.
Comment by firehead — March 22, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
That’s a crazy God you have there, firehead. We know that God well. He’s the one with a tail.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 pm“It’s easier to just call you stupid.”
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 22, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Yeah, you are like most nutty libs – too lazy to do anything but spew worthless dribble from your filthy sewers. You may even be right but your laziness consumes you.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmI never believed him when he said it, but on June 14, 2006, W said he would like to close Gitmo. From whitehouse.gov:
“I’d like to close Guantanamo, but I also recognize that we’re holding some people that are darn dangerous, and that we better have a plan to deal with them in our courts. And the best way to handle — in my judgment, handle these types of people is through our military courts. And that’s why we’re waiting on the Supreme Court to make a decision.
Part of closing Guantanamo is to send some folks back home, like we’ve been doing. And the State Department is in the process of encouraging countries to take the folks back. Of course, sometimes we get criticized for sending some people out of Guantanamo back to their home country because of the nature of the home country.”
Would it be all right for Cuba to have a big chunk of the USA to use as a military base and illegal prison for over one hundred years? I don’t think so.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:59 pm“Pearl Harbor like event†they needed to set the whole insane plan in motion.
Comment by War4Sale
There are definately unanswered questions about all the events surrounding and leading to “Nine – one -one”
I had already been reading PNAC’s site soon after they put it up, back in the 90s. When Bush chose Cheney for his running mate, Alarm bells went off in my head,loud and clear.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmI told my family and friends that Bush would get us in a war before his first year was up. Unfortuantely I was right.
Wayne,
You would have had a blast living in Gitmo. Climbing banyan trees, slogging through muddy salt flats, catching crabs, swimming at rocky beaches, iguanas hanging out in the trees, hunting for shells, catching the edge of Hurricane Camille, and outdoor movies come to mind.
Amazing time…..gone.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmA just war or just a crusade?
Secret Prisons & ‘Alternative’ Interrogation
Bush’s Christian War on Islamofascism
Austin Cline, Agnosticism /Atheism Blog
September 7, 2006
George W. Bush says that Jesus is his favorite philosopher. George W. Bush says that God called him to lead America. Bush has reportedly said that God told him to strike at Afghanistan and Iraq. He is seen as owing his elections as president to the votes of conservative evangelical Christians. Bush leads a political party which regularly puts the religious interests of conservative evangelical Christians above the general interests of the public as a whole. Republican Party platforms regularly proclaim that America is a “Christian Nation†and call for inserting Christian doctrine, morals, and policies into public laws.
Bush is the most overtly “Christian†president America has had in a long time. He leads the most overtly “Christian†political party on the scene and they both pursue overtly Christian agendas, policies, and values. What are the fruits of America’s ongoing experiment with Christian government?
George W. Bush is responsible for creating secret prisons in foreign countries where people can be subjected to “alternative†interrogation methods outside the review or supervision of any international agencies. Bush is responsible for the creation of a concentration camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where prisoners can be detained and interrogated without charges or trial. He is responsible for the use of “aggressive†treatment of prisoners which qualify as torture under all legal and moral codes, but which he denies is “real†torture so long as no one dies and there are no permanent injuries. He is responsible for the use of attack dogs and mock executions to intimidate prisoners.
George W. Bush has asserted the authority to detain and imprison American citizens without charge, without trial, without access to family, and without access to legal counsel. He is responsible for shutting American citizens out of the nation without charge and without trial. Bush has asserted the power to spy on American citizens without charge and without court oversight. He launched an invasion of a foreign country on false and constantly shifting pretenses. He is responsible for people being handed over to foreign governments known to use torture in interrogations.
Obviously not all Christians agree with these developments, but George W. Bush’s very vocal Christian supporters have either not objected or, even worse, have endorsed these policies.
Continued here…
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:00 amYou may even be right but your laziness consumes you.
Comment by Stubain
Provide a link to back up your allegation, please.
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 amyou liberals can go to hell
Tell me exactly, what could hell possibly have to scare me that six years of Bush and Cheney haven’t already numbed me to?
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:03 amYou would have had a blast living in Gitmo. Climbing banyan trees, slogging through muddy salt flats, catching crabs, swimming at rocky beaches, iguanas hanging out in the trees, hunting for shells, catching the edge of Hurricane Camille, and outdoor movies come to mind.
— Zooey
Awsome, I always loved beach /ocean areas. When in Cali, I was always checking out the tidal pools catching hermit crabs, etc. =)
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:13 amLet’s see. Cheney rejected this and then Wunderkind followed suit. Hmm. I just wonder how many Scooby snacks he got for it.
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:13 amStubain sez:
Sorry, Stubain, but as I have already said, it’s late, and I’m tired.
The store is closed, but will open tomorrow at 9:00am EST. You can stop back then and pick up your ass-whipping.
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:16 am#17 firefly, you first, you tiny little black hearted troll…
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:19 amAt the end of the day, only supporters of Bush will go to Heaven.
So I mean it in the literal sense when I say you liberals can go to hell.
Comment by firehead
Translation: KROM!!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:26 amWatcha gonna do when they start calling you terrorist sympathizers for wanting to close Gitmo?
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:34 amAt the end of the day, only supporters of Bush will go to Heaven.
So I mean it in the literal sense when I say you liberals can go to hell.
Comment by firehead
Show me where it says that in the Bible.
For you I release this whisper to the winds:
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:38 amMay the consequences of the hate and lies you loose into the world come back to you 10 fold.
I propose that Guantanamo be set aside as a permanent residence for Bush and Company after they leave office.
Since they claim no one there was ever mistreated, they will be subjected to the same treatment they afforded other residents.
The court rooms are already built, suitable for International Tribunals for War Crimes. And the rules of those Tribunals should be modeled after Bush’s Military Commissions Act.
Should they become sick or injured, they should be treated to the same level of treatment as our military personnel received at Walter Reed.
After the last of them has left this mortal realm, Guantanamo should be preserved, as an American version of Auschwitz; a permanent reminder of our inhumanity towards the rest of the world.
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:45 amI know this had to have been said before but isn’t it so ironic that Gitmo is in Cuba and the US has the audacity to accuse Cuba of State sponsored terrorism and Bolton said it was part of the axis of evil and Bush said it was an outpost of tyranny. Words and actions. I’ll take actions as a way of determining who is evil and who is not. This admin speaks good words but acts as evil if not worse as those they accuse
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:46 amWayne –
Namaste.
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:48 amWhen people in this board talked about the need to close Guantanamo, the trolls called them traitors, appeasers, said the move would only embolden the terrorists, and called that place an “essential tool” in the “global war on terror”.
Turns out, Sec Gates -handpicked by the Dear (mis)Leader himself- has advocated the very same course action the Bush cultists have slammed time and again.
Will the Bush cultists call Sec Gates a traitor and a terrorist appeaser, or will the cognitive dissonance simply make their heads explode?
Stay tuned…
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:04 amI have had a hell of a lot of Christian teachings in my life and I came to the conclusion that Jesus was way to the left of liberalism. He and his disciples were downright communistic. For instance, they would be opposed to the Walton family having $95 billion while 48 million Americans do not even have healthcare.
They were what conservatives would call “soft on crime” to the extreme.
They were pacifists to the extreme.
They preached against taking up the sword even against the Roman empire’s occupation of Palestine.
I consider Daniel and Phillip Berrigan true Christians.
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:10 amYou may even be right but your laziness consumes you.
Comment by Stubain
Provide a link to back up your allegation, please.
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Do I have to break everything down barney style for all of you nutty libs? You lazy bums just further proved my point for me. For the love of Bert and Ernie, read the posts!! Jeez!
TripMaster Monkey in post 17 said that firehead was “stupid” for post 11 but TMM said sh/she was too tired to say why. Yatta yatta yatta.
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:26 amTripMaster Monkey in post 17 said that firehead was “stupid†for post 11 but TMM said sh/she was too tired to say why. Yatta yatta yatta.
Comment by Stubain
Ooooohhh. Such a strong case you have compiled. How can that ever be refuted?
By the way its “yadda yadda yadda”.
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:32 amDo I have to break everything down barney style for all of you nutty libs? Comment by Stubain — March 23, 2007 @ 1:26 am
You can’t reach that *high* intellectually – idiot.
You lazy bums just further proved my point for me. For the love of Bert and Ernie, read the posts!! Jeez! Comment by Stubain — March 23, 2007 @ 1:26 am
When all you post is st*pid b*llsh*t, it only proves you’re st*pid. We already know that *fact* – idiot.
TripMaster Monkey in post 17 said that firehead was “stupid†for post 11 but TMM said sh/she was too tired to say why. Yatta yatta yatta. Comment by Stubain — March 23, 2007 @ 1:26 am
You’re st*pid, if you need it explained, barney’s steaming pile if sh*t.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:00 amStupidBane,
If you read my #44 you will see a very, very short argument as to why #11 is wrong. Someone who knows more and expresses themselves better than me could write many thousands of pages concerning why #11 is wrong.
p.s.: any idiot knows that it’s ” yadda, yadda, yadda”!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 am“By the way its “yadda yadda yaddaâ€.
Comment by dlet — March 23, 2007 @ 1:32 am
Noted. Thanks.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 amFor another excellent essay by David Michael Green (this one is on how the 29% ers are impervious to any empirical evidence, logic, or reason—kinda like StupidBane, Joke, FlamingCranium, et al) go here:
http://www.regressiveantidote.net/Articles/Afghnistan_Proves_It.html
I would really recommend getting on his mailing list. He has come out with a lot of good ones.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 amNoted. Thanks.
Comment by Stubain — March 23, 2007 @ 2:13 am
And *that* is the only thing you *get*? Sad. You’re a st*pid, st*pid, sad little man. Tell me, are you part of the *retirement* brigade like Jake? You smack of that same dinosaur dum bass republican *ssholes that are so entrenched after a lifetime of idiocy you sound more like 12 year olds than adults. Once a man, twice a child? ring a bell?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 amAt the end of the day, only supporters of Bush will go to Heaven.
So I mean it in the literal sense when I say you liberals can go to hell.
Comment by firehead
False prophets make false promises so their close friends can make lots of profits – good luck explaining that one to God. If there is a God like they say and this list is any indication – God will not be pleased.
“There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.” -Proverbs 6:16-19
“A compassionate government should find ways to support their
good works.”-President Bush, 08-18-01
(2004) Faith Without Works: After four years, the president’s faith-based policies have proven to be neither compassionate nor conservative.
(2005) Why Bush’s Agenda Is Immoral and an Abomination to God
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 am#30 – and God told him.
Please bless America, and every nation.
I read about Bush after 911. God has directed him. Enough said.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 am“And *that* is the only thing you *get*? Sad. You’re a st*pid, st*pid, sad little man.”
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 23, 2007 @ 2:21 am
I will give you a quick life lesson… Ready? When you are wrong, admit it. I totally missed the whole “yadda” thing wanted to send my thanks to dlet for correcting me. And, it’s the only thing you nutty libs have responded with that was worth noting. The rest was typical nutty lib garbage.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 amI will give you a quick life lesson… Ready? When you are wrong, admit it. I totally missed the whole “yadda†thing wanted to send my thanks to dlet for correcting me. And, it’s the only thing you nutty libs have responded with that was worth noting. The rest was typical nutty lib garbage. Comment by Stubain — March 23, 2007 @ 2:39 am
I will give you a quick life lesson…. Ready? When you miss the *big* things you’re wrong about, because your ego is too big, and your brain is too small, admitting the little things you were wrong about just makes you look even more hypocritical, foolish, and a dead ender. And if you think correcting an incorrect expression is the only thing you’ve been told worth noting, it just proves my point that you’re not really willing to learn life’s ‘important’ lessons. When you’re a *grownup*, you’ll understand this. Lesson over son.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:31 am#55
Thanks for the lesson, Pop.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:58 amExcerpt: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/12/AR2007011201952_pf.html
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:59 am
Proof of US orchestration of death squads’ killings in Iraq
The full details of Professor Samarree’s story and a detailed account of the US-built Iraqi intelligence apparatus are contained in the article Ghosts of Jadiriyah , published by the B Russell s Tribunal .
In fact, not only does Mr Abid describe the ongoing tortures that he was repeatedly subjected to after the US intervention, as well as describing the tortures that continued to be inflicted on fellow inmates, including the use of Black and Decker drills and other power tools (Mr Abid names eight fellow detainees who died from their injuries), but Mr Abid states that “American troops have visited the prison many times and therefore cannot deny the existence of such a prison.â€
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/
What a sick bastard Bush is
March 23rd, 2007 at 8:15 amwe need public hearings on Gitmo prisoners to stop the 911 coverup
March 23rd, 2007 at 8:16 amComment by Tobey Tall — March 23, 2007 @ 8:15 am
Sweet Jesus.
This nation of ours has become an empire. We could have chosen to pattern our empire after Rome, or the British Empire…
…but instead, it looks like we’ve chosen the Third Reich as our template.
I am deeply ashamed to be an American. Only inertia and a (most probably misplaced) sense of responsibility are keeping me from seeking asylum in Canada.
March 23rd, 2007 at 8:37 am“I am deeply ashamed to be an American. Only inertia and a (most probably misplaced) sense of responsibility are keeping me from seeking asylum in Canada.”
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 23, 2007 @ 8:37 am
If you go and never come back, I will pay for the trip. Don’t let the door hit ya… Anti American coward.
March 23rd, 2007 at 8:48 amI am deeply ashamed to be an American. Only inertia and a (most probably misplaced) sense of responsibility are keeping me from seeking asylum in Canada.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Hey, TMM, let’s all move to Australia.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:01 amStubain,
Please explain to me how, when you meet your Maker, you are going to tell Them that you supported torture and other atrocities?
Anti-American? You have NO idea what you are talking about.
YOU are the reason that things such as this occur. Abu Graib, Gitmo, renditions, My Lai.
Before you folks came into power America actually stood for some ethics. Not now!
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:02 amOkay, let’s say the 8 US Attorneys were FIRED for “performance related issues”…
…While Bushiva and L’il Dick were mass murdering hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and robbing the treasury…
…China has leap-frogged over the US as the number 1 exporter to the EU…
…the U.S.’ reputation around the world is no better than Hitler’s Germany and Mussolini’s Italy was at the height of WWII (since Bushites like to reminesce…
…and the country is MORE divided now than during the Civil War…
…I’d say THESE are “performance related issues”…
…and that Bushiva and L’il Dick should be FIRED right along with Abu Gonzales…
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:09 amMore like 1984.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:10 amOh look. Stubain’s back. Right on time.
I have your ass-whipping ready…paper or plastic?
Whenever I seriously consider leaving this country, I can always count on neocon apologist mouth-breathers like Stubain to show up and graphically demonstrate why that is not an option.
Our Founding Fathers fought and died so that we may be free. Sickened though we may be by the cabal of neocon thugs that have hijacked our country, leaving would be a poor way to repay the honorable men and women that labored so hard to create this once-great nation.
Thank you, Stubain, by demonstrating through your inane drivel exactly what is at stake here. I will not leave this nation to your ilk. I will continue to fight to remove the ursupers from power and hold them accountable for their crimes.
And remember, Stubain, when that day comes, you’ll find your apologist ass against the wall with the rest of them.
For a sniveling little toad like you to presume to call me ‘Anti-American’ is laughable. Perhaps if you had spelled it ‘Anti-Amerikan‘, you’d be correct, but as it stands, your endorsement of this administration, which ranks among mankind’s most awful crimes, speaks volumes about your patriotism.
(Note: You’re probably confused by my assertion that you are unpatriotic. Rest assured, however, it is true…jingoism, however fervent, is not a substitute for patriotism, and jingoism is all you have to offer.)
As for you calling me a ‘coward’, I’d really like to see you say that to my face…not that I’d think you’d ever have the chutzpah. It’s much easier to sling invective anonymously from your mom’s basement, isn’t it? ^_^
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:19 amI have your ass-whipping ready…paper or plastic?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
I say plastic, it’s better suited to his arguments.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 amIt’s not about the advice that Bushiva gets…
…it’s about what he DOES with it…
…give the dumb sombich good advice (like close Gitmo immediately)…
…and what does he do with it?
…moral of the story…
…”intelligence” is ONLY as good as the ability of the receiver to make “intelligent” decisions based on its content…
…once its received…
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:28 amGonzales is always in the background, doing his Chimp’s chores.
He’s slimey.
He lies.
He worships, as all good Bushlickers do, the Profit above honor.
Now, he’s ‘focusing’ on kids & porn.
Abu, where were you when the Repuke ‘leadership’ was covering up for Fingers Foley? Too busy? Too close to home?
Too bad. You’re going down, boy. You can take that plastic smile of yours & join DeLay, Scooter, Jackoff & the other Neonuts who think power & control is their Lord’s blessing.
I really, really, really hope you can spend some time in Gitmo. You deserve it. You own it. You bet.
Obfuscate. Obstruct. Obliviate.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:43 amSome credo you pukes live by.
Gates and Rice deserve a small clap for their effort.
As usual, Bush hit over the head.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:58 amthat’s NEEDS to be hit over the head. Sorry.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:58 amIt boggles my mind that it’s mentioned in passing the “secret CIA prisons” and this somehow is simply accepted. As though “secret prisons” are just hooky-dooky and have always been part of what our nation has done.
Yes, Gitmo an abomination, an affront to due process and makes the United States a hypocritical nation, but it just goes to show how far down we’ve slid when we can matter-or-factly mention secret prisons and still call ourselves a nation of laws without even recognizing just how ridiculous this notion is.
I hope I live long enough to see those that have taken this nation into the fascist cesspool it has become held accountable for all that they have done.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:02 amThere’s more than “meets the eye” in Cheney’s insistence that Guantanamo remain operational. Seldom published is the fact that a new retention facility at Guantanamo, designated Camp 6, was built for $37 million by KBR, a subsidiary of …you guessed it…Halliburton (another unbid contract). Wherever there is blood and human suffering, Cheney’s butt buddies at Halliburton are right there to scoop up profits.
They are monsters, one and all… in an International Military Tribunal trial they’d be found guilty of “Crimes Against Humanity”, and would be summarily executed.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:08 amTripMaster Monkey in post 17 said that firehead was “stupid†for post 11 but TMM said sh/she was too tired to say why. Yatta yatta yatta.
Comment by Stubain
Jesus christ, you’re stupid.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 amPlease don’t go out in public unattended.
anyone who would stick up for torturers, and their right to maintain a semi-secret torture hole, is one sick, sick puppy.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 amThe moniker “Gitmo Abu Gonzo” (GAG) is pretty accurate, isn’t it?
GAG can’t be sticking around to “save the children”. Unless he’s gone the way of Mark Foley on the topic.
No, GAG is sticking around for the martial law and to cover his a** as best he can around all this Madness that he and the rest of BushCo have created.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 amWell well well…three solid hours since my original post, and Stubain has yet to reply.
Apparently, one ass-whipping a day is his limit.
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 pmWhat a wimp that Stubain is!
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:06 pmI agree with Tobey Tall, there are things lurking in Guantanamo that they really don’t want us to know about. Everyone that was on the planes for instance, Those were not commercial airliners …
Let’s see if i get censored here…
Boy, you nutty libs sure have your panties in a twist. None of you have a clue what “torture” really is. Having dogs barking at you with underware on your head is NOT torture. Playing soccer at Gitmo is NOT torture. Running around naked in front of a female is NOT torture. Water boarding is close but still is NOT torture. Making someone think they will be shocked if they step off a box is NOT torture, either. These Islamic thugs are treated better than I was treated in boot camp. They eat better, too. I could go on and on, but you get the point and I had better stop here because some of you are wetting your depends and reaching for your heart medication.
You pitifull Bush haters… Your blinding hatred has ruined your capibility to think rationaly.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:43 pmStubain,
Your ethnocentricity is showing.
You talk about our “blinding hatred.”
Read your comment above — it’s filled with hatred.
That’s called projection.
Crack a book and learn something — please.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:34 am“Well well well…three solid hours since my original post, and Stubain has yet to reply.
Apparently, one ass-whipping a day is his limit.”
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 23, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
Three hours? Some of us have jobs and work for a living. Bum…
As for the “ass-whipping a day…” Um, I don’t think the good game you gave me counts. Wierdo.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:17 amStupidBane,
According to our Pentagon and the International Red Cross, about 95 deaths resulted from the treatment that you say was NOT torture.
And when they don’t die, it is a tremendous recruiting tool for our enemy that we are treating innocent people like that. And before you get your underWEAR in a twist, our Pentagon says about 95% of the thousands that went through the prisons and were treated this way were later released because they were innocent. If they were not anti-American before they went in—they sure are when they come out.
Weren’t you lecturing us on Christianity yesterday? Today you advocate torture. Yet, in your mind there is no conflict!
March 24th, 2007 at 9:31 amJesus said love thine enemies. He did NOT say torture all if there is a 5% chance they are guilty of opposing your illegal invasion and occupation.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:17 amAccording to our Pentagon and the International Red Cross, about 95 deaths resulted from the treatment that you say was NOT torture.
Comment by keith — March 24, 2007 @ 9:31 am
Nope. You are wrong. Not one single death came from panties on the head, barking dogs, water boarding, or standing on a box. If someone is beaten to death we are talking about a totally different things and those doing the beating should be dealt with, severely.
Again, your blinding hatred of all thing Bush has clouding your ability to distinguish between torture and legitimate interrogation techniques.
Me? lecturing about Christianity? No, wrong again.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:57 pm