BREAKING: Gonzales Approved Firings Of U.S. Attorneys
BREAKING: Gonzales Approved Firings Of U.S. Attorneys
ABC News reports: “New documents show Gonzales approved firings of U.S. attorneys, contradicting earlier claims he was not closely involved.”
UPDATE: The AP reports:
Gonzales approved plans to fire several U.S. attorneys in a November meeting. …
The Nov. 27 meeting, in which the attorney general and at least five top Justice Department officials participated, focused on a five-step plan for carrying out the firings of the prosecutors, Justice Department officials said late Friday.
There, Gonzales signed off on the plan, which was crafted by his chief of staff, Kyle Sampson. Sampson resigned last week in the wake of the political firestorm surrounding the firings.
UPDATE II: On March 12, Gonzales denied any involvement in the prosecutor purge:
I was not involved in seeing any memos, was not involved in any discussions about what was going on … That’s basically what I knew as attorney general.
UPDATE III: New documents released tonight, “including Gonzales’s appointment calendar, show that the attorney general and his deputy, Paul McNulty, participated in an hour-long meeting about the firings on Nov. 27. Seven of the eight prosecutors were let go on Dec. 7.” The meeting occurred during the 18-day gap in documents the Justice Department had previously released.
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Impeach the mofo already, even if he resigns! Lied to congress. Case closed.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 pmGonezo lied? The US Attorney General? Setting a good image in the law profession I see. How disgraceful and repulsive this is getting.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 pmLiar Liar, Bushies head on fire
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 pmok - resignation would be much too good for him…
he needs to be indicted or impeached or whatever
so that he cannot get another lawyering job…
i want to see his license before they take it away from him.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:31 pmTell us something we don’t already know. Of course he approved the firings at the direction of Dubya the drunken AWOL coward in the White House. This Friday was intended to head off the confession of Kyle Sampson next week. Gonzo is dead meat. It is his turn to take one to protect the Chimpanzee driving this runaway train. This administration and their apologists in the Republic Party are worse than the mofia. History will record their incompetent power grab as the worst crimes in history.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:32 pmThis still will not get him canned. At this point, AG could eat a fetus and still have Bush’s support.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:33 pmBut oh no, we have NO reason to suspect these guys might not tell the truth when Congress interviews them.
:|
Why would we think that?
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 pmBushCo motto: do as we say, not as we do.
“…there is only one standard of ethics when you’re working for the people, and that is the highest standard of all: no lying, cheating or stealing in the government is allowed.” -President Bush, Washington, D.C., 10-13-05
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pmOK, maybe I’m stupid - but didn’t the link from the last story say the same thing?
Only now it’s from ABC and not the Astoria?
Am I missing something?
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pmHe contradicts DOJ
So I guess this hurts the Prez’s statements about them giving full disclosure before. Big surprise. They just disclosed this now before Sampson divulged it. Damn are these people slime.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pmThe stupidy and arrogance are astounding. He must have thought he could just show up and bullshit and that would be the end of it.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pm…Here in DC you can hear the steady drone of paper shredders…..
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:39 pmI’m shocked that Rove would release a document from the missing 18 days that implicates Gonzo….
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmtick…tick…tick
And he did it after his bosses inserted laws into the Patriot Act intended to obstruct justice while preying on our fears of terror.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmOaths smoaths.
Who needs sworn testimony from these guys?
They’re word obviously is good, right?
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmGonzalez: “I accept responsibility for everything that happens here within this department. But when you have 110,000 people working in the department, obviously there are going to be decisions that I’m not aware of in real time. Many decisions are delegated.”
So, the lead prosecuting attorney of the United States of American delegated the firings of Federal Attorneys who were investigating high profile corruption cases involving Republicans and/or rebuffed requests to pursue meritless cases against Democrats.
I still find it amazing that the trolls want a Federal Justice System fixed around the policy of protecting the political party in power and attacking the opposition party.
Continue to pray that those who know of wrongdoing by the Bush administration continue to come forward with testimony and evidence.
It’s working!
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:46 pmLike Tony Snow said, what good would sworn testimony or a transcript do?
Obviously, like Nora Odonnel said today, they’ll tell the truth the first time, right?
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:46 pmTypo alert:
Attonreys [sic]
First word, second line of text.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:47 pmno, trueblue… you’re good…
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:48 pmthe other thread has a link to this story, but the main subject of that one is the gonzo aide who will testify…
They just never learn, do they? Or is this a case of one lie in the last hundred rearing its ugly head?
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:49 pmOaths smoaths.
Who needs sworn testimony from these guys?
They’re word obviously is good, right?
Comment by I WORFEUS
Yeah, but. When your best buddy is The Decider, you can lie under oath just as easily as without being sworn. I mean, heckadoody, my pal George will pardon me anyway. I might as well lie like a rug.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:49 pmAnd … contracting earlier claims? Second word, second line, right after attonreys
Contradicting?
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:49 pmI hope Chimpy continues to support Gonzo.
I hope Chimpy supports Gonzo until Gonzo’s doing the perp walk out of the White House — then maybe we’ll make a dent in the 29%. Maybe….
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:49 pmCaptain Renault: I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:50 pm[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
Croupier: Your winnings, sir.
Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much.
[aloud]
Captain Renault: Everybody out at once!
#6 Punchy: He could be caught, red-handed, in bed with a boy and he’d still have the support of Bush.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:54 pmHow much excriment just hit the fan and who’s going to forget to duck?
Bets anyone?
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:56 pmDid anyone see “Grey’s Anatomy” last night?
Remember the guy with the decubitis ulcer on his foot?
He ignored it and ignored it and took pain meds to cover his symptoms, and by the time it was looked at by a professional, it was too late to save his foot.
It’s actually a good parallel to the WH.
The WH has festering sores. The Rebub. Congress ignored. They covered up the truth.
Now that the Dem’s are in charge, they are starting to uncover all of the damage. It is not good.
Let’s hope that the Constitution and the United States are not so damaged as to force a “cutting off” or dissolution.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:57 pmPunchy: He could be caught, red-handed, in bed with a boy and he’d still have the support of Bush.
Comment by Mr. Evil
“Hey, Bushie hand me the lube after you’re done loading the camera please.”
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:00 pmWhat has Gonzo got on Chimpy? He must have something really juicy. Otherwise, why the hell wouldn’t the Chimp just cut him loose?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:00 pmKarl Rove would throw his own mother under the bus to protect himself and his dreamboy, George Bush. They’ve already started by tossing Scooter Libby. Now it’s time for Gonzo to go for a ride, under the bus. Eventually it’ll come down to Karl Rove vs. George Bush. They’ll end up pointing fingers at each other saying, “he made me do it!”
These cretins are pathetic!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:01 pmUnfortunately JPV, the wishes of little people like us don’t amount to a hill of beans in this country…
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:03 pmand yet another moment in this administration in which an appropriate reaction consists of only three letters: duh!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:04 pmMy theory is that Gonzo and Bush hooked up when Gonzo’s sister got arrested for “cocaine possession with intent to deliver” - makes you wonder who the customer was…
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:05 pmWell, this seals the deal — those subpoenas are gonna stick.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:06 pmI’m shocked that Rove would release a document from the missing 18 days that implicates Gonzo….
Comment by Disputo
Actually its pretty dubious but this way Rove has his fall guy and when Gonezo is…well gonezo…..Rove will be Bush’s last croney. And the last croney is the most protected.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:07 pmHow surprising, another Bush and Company liar! What is this monarchy coming to?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:08 pmUnfortunately JPV, the wishes of little people like us don’t amount to a hill of beans in this country…
Comment by SKdeA
Yeah, I know. I’m just waiting for them to finally cross the line so that the civil war can finally get started.
Then we can sorts things out proper.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:08 pmOtherwise, why the hell wouldn’t the Chimp just cut him loose?
Comment by Zooey
Because the next AG would have to be approved by Congress and he couldn’t get a lackey in like he could with the Repug Congress. This AG might actually be honest enough to do things justly.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:09 pmYeah, but. When your best buddy is The Decider, you can lie under oath just as easily as without being sworn..
Comment by gummitch — March 23, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Nio they can’t.
You don’t go to jail for lying in a private conversation, like the one the President is offering.
You do go to jail for lying under oath.
And when there is an official court stenographer, making a transcript of everything that was said., lies are quickly exposed when they can be cross referenced.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:09 pmIt’s amazing — Jake was raving on about how we’d never get Bush to lie under oath. This is even better. LMFAO.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:10 pmRove will be Bush’s last croney. And the last croney is the most protected.
Comment by dlet — March 23, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
You’re forgetting about Jeff Gannon/Gukert?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:10 pmzooey - the only thing i’ve heard, so far, is that it was gonzo who got dubya out of jury duty once, when he was gov (?), because it was a drunk driving case and dubya’s own DUIs would come up…
there’s got to be more…
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:10 pmMakes you wonder why anyone would want anyone from the White House to testify under oath. My guessing is after 6 years of Bushco, none of these guys even consider the truth as a requisite to anything they say..
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmDon’t you love these fresh, new, troll-free threads?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:14 pmI guess they don’t know what to think yet.
i heard that Gonzo got Dubya out of DUI’s committed whilst governor
that may or may not be unsubstantiated, but I’m sure Dubya will understand that we need to catapult the propaganda
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:16 pmYou’re forgetting about Jeff Gannon/Gukert?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Cronies…is that what they are called these days. In my day they were called gay bdsm sex slaves.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:17 pmYou do go to jail for lying under oath.
And when there is an official court stenographer, making a transcript of everything that was said., lies are quickly exposed when they can be cross referenced.
Comment by The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS
You don’t go to jail if your best pal is the President of the United States. Not unless he throws you to the wolves. Bush’s ability to pardon his cronies is pretty much unlimited.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:18 pmGonzo didn’t lie, he was just careless with the truth. It’s imperative to have these crooks testify publicly, under oath. Even under oath, there’s no guarantee they’ll tell the truth esp Rove who’s crafty as a serpent.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:19 pmMarch 23rd, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Makes you wonder why anyone would want anyone from the White House to testify under oath.
Comment by Tony W — March 23, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Because when they lie under oath, then they go to jail.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:21 pmDon’t you love these fresh, new, troll-free threads?
I guess they don’t know what to think yet.
Comment by SKdeA
When you defend someone caught in a lie…..
Well, that is just a hard one to defend, unless you are a totally dishonest troll……
So where is Jake, firehead and Patrick1 anyway?
heh
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:22 pm[…] Read more […]
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:23 pmThat’s basically what I knew as attorney general.
So basically you thought you were untouchable in the bushie shadow… “heh, why not lie? Its only Congress.”
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:25 pm@Typo Police: Thanks for the heads up, we’ve made the necessary corrections.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:26 pmMy theory is that Gonzo and Bush hooked up when Gonzo’s sister got arrested for “cocaine possession with intent to deliver†- makes you wonder who the customer was…
Comment by SKdeA
Ah yes…..that is an interesting angle. Thanks, SKdeA.
Hey, katy! This is a good one, don’t you think?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:27 pmAlberto Gonzales’ sudden moment in the unflattering spotlight has prompted a new look at his background.
Gonzales’ younger sister Theresa plead guilty to possession of cocaine with intent to deliver. Nine years later, while Gonzales was on the Texas Supreme Court, his mother and another brother signed over their houses to a bail bondsman to raise bail for Theresa after she was charged with the same offense.
http://www.buffalonews.com/180/story/34944.html
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:27 pmYes indeed, SKdeA — it is nice to be able to participate in democracy without wading through mountains of troll stool. Before I started reading these threads, I had to frequently trim my nose hairs. But now, I keep them closely trimmed just by breathing the acrid stench of troll.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:27 pmBush’s ability to pardon his cronies is pretty much unlimited.
Comment by gummitch — March 23, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
There is a limit: impeachment. Gonzalez cannot be pardoned if he is impeached.
Instead of calling for his resignation, Democrats should be introducing a bill of impeachment against him.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:27 pmSo where is Jake, firehead and Patrick1 anyway?
heh
Comment by Wayne
Don’t summon them!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:28 pmComment by I WORFEUS — March 23, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
Comment by The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS — March 23, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
…
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:29 pmuh … same dude?
@Typo Police: Thanks for the heads up, we’ve made the necessary corrections.
Comment by ThinkProgress
Anytime. :-) We are here to help! Thanks for working the weekends!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:29 pmYou don’t go to jail if your best pal is the President of the United States. Not unless he throws you to the wolves. Bush’s ability to pardon his cronies is pretty much unlimited.
Comment by gummitch — March 23, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
No, its not. If the President is suspected of involvement in this, and since the firing orders came from the White House it is not impossible that following Gonzales testimony, the Presidents powers may limited and hearing called into his conduct.
If a link to Bush is seen, then he won’t be able to pardon anyone. Its just a matter at this point of getting them on record, under oath, so they can hang themselves.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:30 pmuh … same dude?
Comment by katy — March 23, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Same dude.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:31 pmMakes you wonder why anyone would want anyone from the White House to testify under oath.
Comment by Tony W — March 23, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Because when they lie under oath, then they go to jail.
Comment by The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS — March 23, 2007 @
sarcasm was on
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:31 pmI remember watching Gonzales giving smirking testiminy around the FISA run-a-round — smirking all the while.
Really made me angry at the time.
Yes, he thinks he is smarter than the system or anyone else. SMUG. He has been lying in omission and now apparently in comission all along.
Anyone this smug cannot represent a system of Jusctice.
Impeach, cause anyone indicting hime will be fired.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:32 pmEarlier: O’Donnell to Leahy:
“You don’t trust the White House. The bottom line, you don’t trust the White House.â€
Eat your words O’Donnell…
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:32 pmBefore I started reading these threads, I had to frequently trim my nose hairs. But now, I keep them closely trimmed just by breathing the acrid stench of troll.
Comment by stonehinge
Thanks for sharing……just how serious is your nose hair problem? :P
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:32 pmSorry Tony.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:32 pmAh yes…..that is an interesting angle. Thanks, SKdeA.
Hey, katy! This is a good one, don’t you think?
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
i’m guessing that you mean SKdeA’s “angle” ? …
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:33 pmyep, that’s a good one… have a feeling it’s deeper still…
Someone’s pants are ON FIRE! Yes, indeed!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:34 pmWe spend far too much time on the trolls…and let them hijack the discussion. All you heed to know is, like #6, George Bush could slaughter and eat a baby on the White house lawn, and the trolls would defend it or failing that blame Clinton for it.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:34 pmHi everyone.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:36 pmHow’s everyone’s evening going?
When the Attorney General lies, it should mean instant dismissal.
A nation should not accept the chief law officer lying.
Mind you it should not accept the president lying either. Not ever.
But for some reason that seems to be too high a standard.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:36 pmI think someone’s getting a Medal of Freedom!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:38 pmZooey, don’t you understand? Reading the TP trolls cured my nose hair problem. It’s a miracle, I say, a miracle!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:38 pmIn six years and two months, this little gang of thugs, traitors, bullies and general nimcomepoops have managed to destroy the future of the Republican Party. Of course, they had heaps of help from the Republicans in the House and the Senate: covering up, looking the other way, yawning, and carrying on with their own personal ways of corruption…
The Republican Party was founded in 1854, some one hundred and fifty years ago, on a strong anti-slavery platform. They have produced some good Presidents, mostly in the 19th c. and early 20th c. The last four Republican Presidents have been corrupt, to varying degrees. But Bush II has topped the lot, with his unfortunate combination of arrogance, innocence (about foreign countries, their peoples and their nationalistic reactions to be invaded and occupied) and stupidity.
Six years to destroy a proud poltical party that has lasted over one hundred and fifty years. Heck of a job, Bushie..
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:39 pmIs it true George Bush is controlled by Aliens from Area 51?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:39 pmComment by The Artist Formerly Known as WORFEUS — March 23, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Welcome back, friend.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:40 pmZooey, don’t you understand? Reading the TP trolls cured my nose hair problem. It’s a miracle, I say, a miracle!!!
Comment by stonehinge
At least it’s a useful miracle. :)
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:40 pmdiet @ 38, sort of “better keep the lackey we know rather than the lackey we don’t?”
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:41 pmha!… check it out:
The Un-Sweet Sixteen
By: Nicole Belle @ 7:30 PM - PDT
Democrats.org:
With the Sweet Sixteen set to tip off today, the Democratic National Committee announced the brackets for it’s annual Republican “Unsweet Sixteen,” featuring this years contenders for the potentially most corrupt, least accountable and least competent members of the Bush Administration. The 2007 Unsweet Sixteen pits the top eight Administration officials whose incompetence, corruption or cronyism have already cost them their jobs against the eight current Administration officials who most deserve to be fired.
Vote now!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2007/ 03/ 23/ the-un-sweet-sixteen/
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:41 pm.
I’m not sure which is the more amazing/depressing observation here - that
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:41 pmthere’s no lie these guys aren’t willing to tell, Or, that they actually believe they have any credibility left anywhere, at all. An absolutely jaw-dropping level of mendacity and arrogance.
Is it true George Bush is controlled by Aliens from Area 51?
Comment by Alpo — March 23, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
It is true that he is controlled from Area 51, but I believe that Halliburton workers are at the controls there.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:41 pmWhen the Attorney General lies, it should mean instant dismissal.
Same goes for the president.
But for some reason, that seems to be too high a standard.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:42 pm[…] okay: January 2007. Whether you are under oath or not, lying to Congress is not “okay”. BREAKING: Gonzales Approved Firings Of U.S. Attorneys ABC News reports: “New documents show Gonzales approved firings of U.S. attorneys, contradicting […]
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmif it’s true that we’re controlled by Space Aliens why doesn’t Congress do something.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmWhy doesn’t this site do something?
Six years to destroy a proud poltical party that has lasted over one hundred and fifty years. Heck of a job, Bushie..
Comment by james k. sayre
Good point. I think it was Webster Tarpley who predicted the demise of the Republicon party. He figured the Democratic Party would then split somewhere along the lines dividing Ted Kennedy and Joe Liebermann. I can deal with that.
BTW, Lincoln was just about as bad as this Cheney/Dubya cabal for trying to destroy basic constitutional rights.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:45 pmVerbalKint,
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmWow that’s scary!
I heard they invaded Iraq because there’s an anciet Alien base used there by the Anunaki when they controlled the Sumerians. The Anunaki are coming back so Haliburton order Cheney to attack Iraq.
Don’t summon them!!
Comment by Zooey
heh, oops.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:48 pm#75 said: “But Bush II has topped the lot, with his unfortunate combination of arrogance, innocence (about foreign countries, their peoples and their nationalistic reactions to be invaded and occupied) and stupidity.”
Innocence or ignorance? Bush is callow, not innocent.
Otherwise I’d like to agree with you. Trouble is I thought the same thing after Watergate, yet here we are stuck with the same Aholes from that era (or is it error?) making the same mistakes for which we will all pay dearly for decades to come.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:50 pmThe Anunaki are coming back so Haliburton order Cheney to attack Iraq.
Thank goodness. Maybe we can shed some of this Judaeo-Christian fraud in the process. And BTW, along that line, you should read this:
Open Letter to the Anti-war Movement
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:51 pmGeez, Gonzo makes Jake sound like Einstein. Tony Snow may have a growth in his abdomen, but Gonzo, obviously, has no living cells between his palate and his scalp.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:53 pmlegaleze, until we shed this attitude that our civilization is so g*ddam superior, this problem is going to keep recurring. Read the link in my previous post — it is rather enlightening.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:54 pmComment by gummitch — March 23, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
Excellent Verse!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmWaltTheMan ,
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:56 pmExactly of course he has no brains. He’s a spick!
Thanks Bris. Nice to see u 2 old friend.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:56 pmDo you think that an Alien armada is on it’s way? Is there anything we can do to prevent the Haliburton aliens from global domination?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:57 pmThe Anunaki are powerful.
Great. This means we’ll soon have as A.G. none other that John Cornyn.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 pmPorter, what was the relevance of that outburst? Was that a brain fart?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 pmI’m in total shock. I would have bet almost anything that Gonzales wasn’t involved in the firings.
Just look at Alberto Gonzales’ eyes. I often look at peoples’ eyes, because that’s the window to their soul. Gonzales’ eyes are so trusting, warm, and kind-looking. I just sense that there’s not a trace of mean-spiritedness from his endearing eyes and face. You just know that his temperment is sweet; there’s not a mean or cross bone in his body.
I’m sure Gonzales must be saddened by the financial turmoil some of these fired attorneys are going through. One fired, older attorney is having huge financial problems. Finding a job is difficult when you’re older, and you’ve been fired.
I really feel sad about this, and it looks like Gonzales may be fired, too. Who saw this coming? Certainly not most of us.
If Gonzales can’t find another job in the law profession, he should consider counseling. He’s so caring, and he’s the person anyone would like to chat with when the going is rough in life. You just know Gonzales feels everyones pain. The last thing this guy would do is inflict pain on someone.
If counseling isn’t in the cards, a million-dollar job as a lobbyist probably is.
John
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 pmBTW, Lincoln was just about as bad as this Cheney/Dubya cabal for trying to destroy basic constitutional rights.
Comment by stonehinge
Lincoln was a defacto dictator. However he intended to give the power back after the war… someone killed him first though…
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:01 pmstonehinge,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:03 pmSupporter of Islamo-Fascists are you. You’re a traitor.
The only thing right is that Muslims are no starngers to Imperialism.
Heck in the 7th Century they Genocidically conquered Persia, Syria Egypt N. Africa and Spain.
Then they commited genocide in India in the 10th century and then in Anatolia in the 11th.
Let’s not forget Istanbul was once Constantinople!
Ask you Islamo-Fascist buddy about that.
So go join Al-Qaeda and go over and blow yourself up loser!
I’ll take Judeo-Chritianity over Islam anyday.
Hey you proved the Islamic-Leftist alliance exists.
I’m emailling your post to a few sites.
Great Thanks!
Why are you Muslim?
Did you know Mohammad married a 9 year and commited genocide?
Comment by Rich Porter
My guess it is more likely because of the murder of all those people overr the past 2000 years…
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:03 pmIf counseling isn’t in the cards, a million-dollar job as a lobbyist probably is.
Comment by John Gilpins
You had me for minute…..
Good to see you again. :)
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:04 pmWayne,
See how well that summoning works….? :D
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:05 pmRodan,
Good point. No Judeo-Christian genocide ever. Nope not ever. Not a single instance. You sure made your point. Good work. Certainly no one could provide counter-examples to damage your argument. Solid as a rock.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:07 pmRich Porter,
I believe Mark Foley is the pedophile du jour.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:10 pmerock,
That’s not the point. The point is the Left holds Islam in high regard and makes them out to be victims, when in fact it’s a genocidal cult!
As for Christian created genocide, We condemn it, they glorify their Genocides and conquests all for the greater glory of Allah!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmThat’s the difference!
erock,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:13 pmHow about the AXCLU head in Virginia arrested for Child Porn!
erock,
Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope…. Our *four*…no… *Amongst* our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.
–Monty Python
:-D
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:14 pmJeez Rodan, you don’t know me at all. But, I’ll tell you this, Arabic civilization is, and has always been, a more just society than anything ever contemplated under the Judaeo-Christian system of fraudulent religiosity. From your commentary it is quite obvious that you have never seen anything besides reichwing propaganda. Too bad.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:14 pmRodan,
I’m not quite sure what this abstract “left” is, but I personally hold all religions equally. I never said Christians created genocide. Fact is, the concept has always existed. We’ll probably never know who did it first. As the old saying goes, religions don’t kill people, people kill people.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 pmstonehinge at 91. I don’t disagree. There is a great deal of arrogance in this country, an arrogance exemplified by Bushco. Complacency, however, also plays a big role. People just don’t feel the need to be politically involved or morally aware of what this country is doing in their names.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 pmZooey,
NOT THE COMFY CHAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:16 pmHave any of you ever thought that all Religions were created by Space Aliens? There’s evidence that thousands of years ago Aliens called the Anunaki settle and cionquered humans!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:16 pmThey formed Religions to control the masses. That’s why Paganism is Polytheist. Each Diety represents an Alien.
I think it’s time us Human rebel against Alien domination and take our planet back!
Thinkp[rogress can leade that fight!
Let’s start a resistance!
Remember, he’s lying for “the kids”!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:16 pmRich Foley,
Yeah, how about that? Remember when Nancy Pelosi covered his a** for 4 years? Me neither.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmUPDATE III: New documents released tonight, “including Gonzales’s appointment calendar, show that the attorney general and his deputy, Paul McNulty, participated in an hour-long meeting about the firings on Nov. 27. Seven of the eight prosecutors were let go on Dec. 7.†The meeting occurred during the 18-day gap in documents the Justice Department had previously released.
Heh.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmZooey,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmThe Spanish inquisition pales in comparison to the Dhimmi status Muslims did to Christians. More Christiansd were killed by Muslims during their Conquests than by the Inquisition.
The difference is we’re embarrased by the Inquisition, they’re proud of their Jihad!
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March 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmAnd please Rodan, don’t start pissing your pants here. It’s unseemly.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmBest part of this whole thing is all these repugligan apologists from the noron o’donalls to john cornyn just were made fools again by bushco…even a loyal dumb dog will eventually leave if you kick him enough…Gonzo will be gone by Monday, His support along with his credibility (if he ever had any) has to be just about zilch..
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmerock,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmMuslims Jihadis attacked the Orthodox Eastern Roman Empire 1st in 636 AD at the battle of Yarmuk.
They started it.
Just a few days ago the trolls were arguing the issues (in their totally unrealistic, nonsensical way of course). Now they are showing their true stripes, pedophilia, aliens, genocide and religion.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:21 pmNOT THE COMFY CHAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by erock
There is the possibility of no coffee at eleven…..
Terrifying, I know…
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:22 pmThere is a limit: impeachment. Gonzalez cannot be pardoned if he is impeached.
Instead of calling for his resignation, Democrats should be introducing a bill of impeachment against him.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
100% right on both counts.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmThe difference is we’re embarrased by the Inquisition, they’re proud of their Jihad!
Comment by Rodan
Go hide under your dripping bed, moron.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmAs for Christian created genocide, We condemn it, they glorify their Genocides and conquests all for the greater glory of Allah!
That’s the difference!
Comment by Rodan
When did the pope condemn the murder of the witches?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmRodan,
Are you aware that the Romans in the second century A.D. pillaged and conquered and raped in the name of the Christian faith? Probably not. But even without that information, have you really been holding a grudge for 1400 years? If so, you should read your Bible again.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pm“a more just society than anything ever contemplated under the Judaeo-Christian system of fraudulent religiosity.”
Yeah right!
Women forced to cover themselves!
Dogs are prohibitted.
Alcohol is prohibitted.
Pork is prohibbited.
Free speech is prohibbited.
If you speak out against Islam you are killed.
Churches aren’t allowed to bigger than Mosques.
Church Bells can’t ring.
Christians had to pay Jiyaza Tax tio Muslims.
Christians couldn’t testify in court against Muslims.
If you want to get into how just Ilsam is well I’m half Lebanese Maronite .
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmI have several relatives who are here in America, that in the 70’s and 80’s fought in the Phalangist lebanese forces Militia against The PLO, Syrians, Amal Militia and Hizb’Allah.
Thay can tell you the glories and justice of Islam society.
Again you’re an elitist Leftist snob that belives your PC brainwashing and not reading the truth about things.
I know what I speak from family members and seeing what’s going on.
I give the Muslims credit. they have foold like you helping spread their propaganda!
As for Christian created genocide, We condemn it
Holy f*cking Jeebus…what a crock that is. Genocide is the only thing the Republi-cons actually know how to do. It is their foreign policy.
ROFLMAO…these Reichwing morons…but at least I don’t have to trim my nose hair anymore. Isn’t that just great…I’ve finally learned how to be a glass half-full kinda guy. Woot!!!!11
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmZooey,
Under threat of death, what is the air speed of a laiden swallow?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmLincoln was a defacto dictator. However he intended to give the power back after the war… someone killed him first though…
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr
Um…can we put that in perspective please. At the time there was no United States because half of it was calling themselves the Confederate States of America. Trying to link the situations Lincoln was inand what Bush is in is….well…weird.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmWhen did the pope condemn the murder of the witches?
when did the Muslims prohibit Church Bells not to rang?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmWhy did the Muslims massacred Hindus in India?
“Are you aware that the Romans in the second century A.D. pillaged and conquered and raped in the name of the Christian faith?”
Romans weren’t Christian in the 2nd Century.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmThey were worshippers of Mithra and the Sol Invictus.
“What has Gonzo got on Chimpy? He must have something really juicy. Otherwise, why the hell wouldn’t the Chimp just cut him loose?
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 10:00 pm”
Why should he?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 pmThey started it.
Comment by Rodan
Um no.
The romans were doing it long before the arabs attacked christians. And the egyptians were doing it long before the romans…acting shocked SHOCKED! that humans have been slaughtering each other over the past 10,000 years and then blaming only the arabs is pretty dumb.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:31 pmThe difference is we’re embarrased by the Inquisition, they’re proud of their Jihad!
Comment by Rodan
And yet you are proud of Gitmo and Abu Gharib.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:31 pm“So where is Jake, firehead and Patrick1 anyway?
heh
Comment by Wayne
Don’t summon them!!
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 10:28 pm”
Don’t need them, I’m here!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmRapture Repukes want the Apocalypse…NOW.
They’re actually looking forward to WW3.
That’s just plain psycho.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmCan everyone here stop arguing.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 pmWe need to start a Resistance against Alien control of Earth!
This blog can go a long way towards that.
The people here understand something is wrong, but it’s deeper than Bush!
We must unite and Free Earth!
“See how well that summoning works….? :D
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 11:05 pm”
zooey, still waiting for something halfway intelligent out of one of your posts?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pmUnder threat of death, what is the air speed of a laiden swallow?
Comment by erock
What do you mean, an African or European Swallow? :D
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pmWait a minute! Who said “no pork”? Wasn’t that Regan’s food of choice? That and jelly beans?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pmUm…can we put that in perspective please. At the time there was no United States because half of it was calling themselves the Confederate States of America. Trying to link the situations Lincoln was inand what Bush is in is….well…weird.
Comment by dlet
I dont think I mentioned bush at all.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pm“They’re actually looking forward to WW3.
That’s just plain psycho.
Comment by Tom3 — March 23, 2007 @ 11:32 pm”
We are? Explain?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pmSorry Rodan
My mistake, Rome wasn’t Christian til the 3rd century under Constantine. Nevertheless, this predates your earlier assertion that the “muslims started it” in the 6th centure.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pmAlberto VO5.
Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 pm“And yet you are proud of Gitmo and Abu Gharib.
Comment by dlet — March 23, 2007 @ 11:31 pm”
What’s there not to be proud of?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 pmwhen did the Muslims prohibit Church Bells not to rang?
Why did the Muslims massacred Hindus in India?
Comment by Rodan
Why should I care? Saudis attacked America on 911 not “muslims” so when are you traitors going to stop shielding the Saudis from justice?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmI’m discussing the Islamic-Western conflict.
They started it.
Mohamadd the genocidal/Child rapist sent a letter to the Roman Emperor Heraclius in Constantinople to convert to islam.
The Emperor declined. A jihad against the Romans was declared.
That’s how the conflict started.
Don’t need them, I’m here!
Comment by michael
Debate topic: Michael is a complete and utter moron.
Michael’s task: Argue in favor of that point.
I’m tired of waiting for you, chickenshit.
Run away! Run away!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmRodan, take your religion and shove it up your…….
This thread is about Gonzolas….. If you want to talk RELIGION take it somewhere else.
I don’t give a rats a$$ what you have to say about religion you freek!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmZooey,
I…I don’t know th…AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmIs it true George Bush is controlled by Aliens from Area 51?
Comment by Alpo
No it’s not true but it probably makes about much sense as anything else does.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 pm“humans have been slaughtering each other over the past 10,000 years and then blaming only the arabs is pretty dumb.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 23, 2007 @ 11:31 pm”
I don’t care what happened prior to 1960. I’m blaming the Arabs for what is happening today!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 pmNevertheless, this predates your earlier assertion that the “muslims started it†in the 6th centure.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 pmThey did. They atatcked the Romans in 6363.
By the time Constantine came to power Rome was conquering no one. They were on the defensive against various Barbarians and the sassanian Persians.
Read some history
zooey, still waiting for something halfway intelligent out of one of your posts?
Comment by michael
Are you?
You really over-use the “?” key, chickenshit.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:38 pmRodan, haven’t you figured it out yet. Nobody on the left denies that the Muslim countries have problems. But, that doesn’t mean that Western Civilization is superior. Just Ask yourself why the USA has the highest prison population (per capita) of any country in the world. Ask yourself why millions of Americans have no access to health care. And then read this mind-blowing analysis:
Was Saddam Hussein really the ruthless tyrant that American moralists claim he was?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:38 pm“Are you?
You really over-use the “?†key, chickenshit.
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 11:38 pm”
Still waiting child?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 pmWe are? Explain?
Comment by michael
I grew up with the reichwingers in evangelical christian churches and watched the 700 club everyday… the churchs would show us movies about the coming end of times and say things like “we are in this world but we are not part of it… dear lord save us from the sins of this nation.” They are always saying that the end times are now … just like their kind did 1000 years ago… and a 1000 before that.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
“Saudis attacked America on 911 not “muslims†so when are you traitors going to stop shielding the Saudis from justice?”
The saudis were Muslim. The attacks on america started when Iran seized our Emabassy in 1979. Don’t forget too when you buddies Hizb’Allah bombed the Marine Barracks.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmThe fact is The Saudia, Pakistanis, Syrians, Iraqia and Iranian should all be wipped off the map!
Oh boy,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmThe trolls got nothin’ to defend Gonzo with, so all they can do is shout about the dirty Muslims to hijack this thread.
That’s how the conflict started.
Comment by Alpo
What conflict? 911?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmI…I don’t know th…AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
Comment by erock
You have to know these things when you’re a king, you know.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pm“Run away! Run away!
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 11:36 pm”
Still waiting child?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmI dont think I mentioned bush at all.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmComment by Gerald Gibson Jr
Well in that case….never mind. Sorry. Coming in half-way never produces any good outcomes. Peace.
“Comment by RemoveBush — March 23, 2007 @ 11:36 pm”
Remove Bush? Why?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmWhew. Someone definitely invoked the trolls. Turn the kitchen light back on and maybe they’ll all scuttle back under the fridge.
Ick.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 pmGone-zales.
Perjury, Conspiracy, Obstruction of Justice.
Gonzalez better get his OWN lawyer.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmI still don’t understand the leftist-Islamic alliance.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmI thoght that you guys were about a secular society and Women’s freedom.
Well Islam is against all that.
Explain to me this strange alliance.
It’s just as weird as when Hitelr and Stalin were allies.
Still waiting child?
Comment by michael
Get started on our ancient debate topic, chickenshit - #153.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmThis started before 9/11. Like a PC indoctrinated Leftist you think it’s just about Al-Qaeda. It’s deeper than that. It’s our world vs. Their world.
The difefrence is they are ready for a civilization war. we’re not because the Left is helping the Muslims.
Still waiting child?
Comment by michael
Yep, you’re getting ready to run.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmHow many more lies is this mofo gonna get caught in?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmCan he be demoted to Attorney Private?
Oh jeezzus. Michael is the new Jake but more confrontational. He bores me. No substance.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pm“Whew. Someone definitely invoked the trolls. Turn the kitchen light back on and maybe they’ll all scuttle back under the fridge.
Ick.
Comment by gummitch — March 23, 2007 @ 11:42 pm”
Afraid of the challenges we present?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmI don’t care what happened prior to 1960. I’m blaming the Arabs for what is happening today!
Comment by michael
So in your mind how does the 1950s over throw of the Iranian government by America calculate into that? And the creation of a zionist state in the middle of arab country? How about the zionists terrorism against the local arab population and the british occupiers? Or the military backed forced oil contracts? Or the false promises of independance after the removal of the Ottoman empire….
Those things all affected “people” not just muslims… and those “people” have every right to want justice for those things just as we would… it is long over due for you idiots to stop acting like you are the taint of the infallible pope. It is time for us ALL on all sides to own up to our tribalistic past and human on human slaughter and stop the madness… if that requires getting rid of your type of thinking then so be it.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pm#
Sorry Rodan
My mistake, Rome wasn’t Christian til the 3rd century under Constantine. Nevertheless, this predates your earlier assertion that the “muslims started it†in the 6th centure.
Comment by erock — March 23, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Aw, come on erock, he was only off by 3!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmGonzalez better get his OWN lawyer.
Comment by Tom3
That is a funny thought. Imagine the Attorney General of the United States having to get legal help because he has no idea what he is doing? Only in Bushlandia.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 pmSomeday, Alberto VO5 will be on the cover of Prison Brides magazine. LOL!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 pmRodan,
Are all Christians hell-bent on attacking federal buildings? What you’re attempting to do is called proof by example. It is the trap that all freshman geometry students fall into. In your case, the proof goes: Some muslims attacked American interests, therefore all Muslims want to attack American interests. A similar proof could be constructed for most any scenario. However, in every one of these cases, a counter-example exists.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 pmIt’s just as weird as when Hitelr and Stalin were allies.
Comment by Rodan
You don’t care about anything but disrupting this thread.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 pmGet lost piss-soaked troll.
I wish the Left would dislike Islam as much as they hate Catholics and evangelicals. That way we can unite against these savages and drive them back to the Desert!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 pmAfraid of the challenges we present?
Comment by michael
No……Next challenging question please. Ugh.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmAfraid of the challenges we present?
Comment by michael
The roaches present more of a challenge than you. Dream on.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pm“Get started on our ancient debate topic, chickenshit - #153.
Comment by Zooey — March 23, 2007 @ 11:44 pm”
Are you so afraid of an intelligent debate that you must always resort to diversion and name calling? Let’s put the past aside and debate a legitimate subject? Pick it? Show your comrades how smart you are! I’m betting you don’t have the nerve?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmThe saudis were Muslim. The attacks on america started when Iran seized our Emabassy in 1979.
Comment by Rodan
That was called the Iranian Revolution. A Revolution they had to have because of us over throwing their previous government and replacing it with a puppet government. If someone had done that to us we would have done far more than screw around with an embassy.
Don’t forget too when you buddies Hizb’Allah bombed the Marine Barracks.
Comment by Rodan
Last I check it was their country not ours… we didnt belong there.
The fact is The Saudia, Pakistanis, Syrians, Iraqia and Iranian should all be wipped off the map!
Comment by Rodan
Ahh and there we have it… a pro nazi pro Holocaust fascist… just as we have been saying … very good… I rest my case.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmAs always, Islam is the achilles heel of the Left. attack it and you Political Correct indoctrinated Stalinists defend it no matter what!
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmYou know what? I want Alberto to go before Congress and say,
“You’re damn right I lied. We need loyal Bushies to be US attorneys. We are at war. We can only win the war on terror by fighting for Bush. Yeah, I lied all you Democrats sitting up there with your fancy suits as you know nothing about defending America. I did so for the greater good. Just like Oliver North. I’m a hero, not a villan. So you can all go to hell.”
That’s what he needs to do.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmWho Would Jesus Torture.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 pm“Oh jeezzus. Michael is the new Jake but more confrontational. He bores me. No substance.
Comment by dlet — March 23, 2007 @ 11:45 pm”
You have substance? Show us?
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmZooey,
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 pmI just love exposing the Left’s support of the Jihadis!
yiou guys are the gift that keeps on giving!
Rodan, I know quite a few American Muslims, not a one of them is the slavering radical you paint.
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmI also know quite a few Amercian Christians, and several of them are slavering radicals like you.
God doesn’t like it when you purport to speak for him. Have an original thought for a change.