Comments on: BREAKING: Gonzales Approved Firings Of U.S. Attorneys http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:02:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jeanie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-12/#comment-2796249 Jeanie Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:57:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2796249 Re: Attorney-gate, etc. It is outrageous that W. and Co. think they could offer Congress selective interviews not under oath and without transcripts. Even a child could see the holes in that offer. The fish rots from the head and the smell is fuuunky from the White House. I agree with Sean Penn and millions of others that W. and Co. have to go. A pre-emptive war waged on fabricated evidence with 1000's of innnocents maimed and killed, worldwide goodwill squandered, real homeland security not advanced, 6 years thwarting real science on impending Global climate change which could very well spell doom for humanity, using the Judicial Branch of the government to advance political agendas, outting CIA agents to discredit detractors, running the government with the arrogance of dictators, etc. Lies heaped on lies. I hope this Attorney-gate keeps it's legs and that everyone who has evidence of this administrations malfaesance pipes up loud and clear. W. and Co., have kidnapped Lady Justice and have thrown her in the trunk of their car. This is outrageous. Re: Attorney-gate, etc. It is outrageous that W. and Co. think they could offer Congress selective interviews not under oath and without transcripts. Even a child could see the holes in that offer. The fish rots from the head and the smell is fuuunky from the White House. I agree with Sean Penn and millions of others that W. and Co. have to go. A pre-emptive war waged on fabricated evidence with 1000’s of innnocents maimed and killed, worldwide goodwill squandered, real homeland security not advanced, 6 years thwarting real science on impending Global climate change which could very well spell doom for humanity, using the Judicial Branch of the government to advance political agendas, outting CIA agents to discredit detractors, running the government with the arrogance of dictators, etc. Lies heaped on lies. I hope this Attorney-gate keeps it’s legs and that everyone who has evidence of this administrations malfaesance pipes up loud and clear. W. and Co., have kidnapped Lady Justice and have thrown her in the trunk of their car. This is outrageous.

]]> By: drew_ill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2614321 drew_ill Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:36:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2614321 In other news, Bears do indeed poop in the woods...film at 11. In other news, Bears do indeed poop in the woods…film at 11.

]]> By: Theresa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2613411 Theresa Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:47:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2613411 And this beaut I read at CNN.com today: <blockquote>Since the schedule's release, Justice aides have said Gonzales meant he was not involved in selecting the prosecutors when he said he didn't participate in discussions about their firings. "He didn't say he wasn't involved," former Republican chairman Ed Gillespie said Sunday.</blockquote> Source: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/25/fired.attorneys.ap/index.html This is getting good. Theresa And this beaut I read at CNN.com today:

Since the schedule’s release, Justice aides have said Gonzales meant he was not involved in selecting the prosecutors when he said he didn’t participate in discussions about their firings. “He didn’t say he wasn’t involved,” former Republican chairman Ed Gillespie said Sunday.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/25/fired.attorneys.ap/index.html

This is getting good.

Theresa

]]> By: I WORFEUS http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2604949 I WORFEUS Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:35:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2604949 Yea, free speech. Its a bitch. Yea, free speech.

Its a bitch.

]]> By: angryvietnamvet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2600327 angryvietnamvet Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:39:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2600327 #537, 539 and others Above re TROLL disruption of thread I totally agree. I have seen this again and again on TP and it is the reason why I have stopped reading most threads and no longer bother posting. Anyone with anything pertinent and sensible to post gets lost and smothered in the fog of detours and senseless refutations. This is why I now prefer to read and post on TPMuckraker which appears to maintain the commentary at a higher level of discourse and on track. Try it and see. It is really unfurtunate that so many people will take the bait and go off track on this site. #537, 539 and others Above re TROLL disruption of thread

I totally agree. I have seen this again and again on TP and it is the reason why I have stopped reading most threads and no longer bother posting. Anyone with anything pertinent and sensible to post gets lost and smothered in the fog of detours and senseless refutations. This is why I now prefer to read and post on TPMuckraker which appears to maintain the commentary at a higher level of discourse and on track. Try it and see. It is really unfurtunate that so many people will take the bait and go off track on this site.

]]> By: Jason Baddo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2574351 Jason Baddo Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:56:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2574351 its amazing how Americans are so passive and lazy. They allow themselves to be shafted and lied to repeatedly by their goverment. The citizens of most other countries would be in the streets demanding change and indeed there would be change. Democracy once worked in America but no more. Its been hi-jacked by a combination of political thuggery, unethical lobbyists and an apathetic populace. its amazing how Americans are so passive and lazy. They allow themselves to be shafted and lied to repeatedly by their goverment. The citizens of most other countries would be in the streets demanding change and indeed there would be change.

Democracy once worked in America but no more. Its been hi-jacked by a combination of political thuggery, unethical lobbyists and an apathetic populace.

]]> By: Where’s the Outrage? » Temperature rising on Gonzales http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2545016 Where’s the Outrage? » Temperature rising on Gonzales Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:58:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2545016 [...] Gonzales who previously denied being involved in the firing of the 8 US attorneys was in fact involved in the firings of the 8 US Attorneys. Watch Now:      Nightly News - Gonzales [1:39m]: Play [...] [...] Gonzales who previously denied being involved in the firing of the 8 US attorneys was in fact involved in the firings of the 8 US Attorneys. Watch Now:      Nightly News – Gonzales [1:39m]: Play [...]

]]> By: Marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2534620 Marlow Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:07:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2534620 #537, Absolutely right! Time and again I start reading a thread only to watch it come apart, usually by the thirtieth response or so, and by the time you hit the hundredth it's gone completely to shit. A solar flare will cause static on the radio; do you start screaming at the sun when it happens? Yes, it's frustrating, but you can't debate someone who won't even acknowledge reality. If your really pissed off, go to their websites and drop a few bombs yourself. Masquerade as a cultist of personality who's beginning to develop the glimmerings of an actual conscience and watch how it drives THEM wild. Just - hold your fire here, and be smart; in judo you use the opponents energy, remember? #537, Absolutely right! Time and again I start reading a thread only to watch it come apart, usually by the thirtieth response or so, and by the time you hit the hundredth it’s gone completely to shit. A solar flare will cause static on the radio; do you start screaming at the sun when it happens? Yes, it’s frustrating, but you can’t debate someone who won’t even acknowledge reality. If your really pissed off, go to their websites and drop a few bombs yourself. Masquerade as a cultist of personality who’s beginning to develop the glimmerings of an actual conscience and watch how it drives THEM wild. Just – hold your fire here, and be smart; in judo you use the opponents energy, remember?

]]> By: War4Sale http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2534590 War4Sale Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:57:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2534590 Alberto has been caught lying to the people's representatives in congress. Bush's reaction? He fully supports Gonzo! Just as he supported Libby and Rove even <strong>after </strong> he pretended he wanted to "get to the bottom" of the Plame outing. How can Bush support people who lie to the public? Because that is what they were appointed to do. Bush and his administration are the most corrupt America has ever had. We need to continue these investigations and, if the evidence justifies it, <strong>impeach</strong> both Bush and Cheney. If we fail to act, we send the message to future administrations that they are above the law and that there are <strong>no consequences</strong> for criminal activity. Can America afford this? Alberto has been caught lying to the people’s representatives in congress. Bush’s reaction? He fully supports Gonzo! Just as he supported Libby and Rove even after he pretended he wanted to “get to the bottom” of the Plame outing.

How can Bush support people who lie to the public? Because that is what they were appointed to do. Bush and his administration are the most corrupt America has ever had. We need to continue these investigations and, if the evidence justifies it, impeach both Bush and Cheney.

If we fail to act, we send the message to future administrations that they are above the law and that there are no consequences for criminal activity. Can America afford this?

]]> By: Bluedog49 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2534153 Bluedog49 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:00:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2534153 This thread is an interesting demonstration of the method trolls use to attempt to derail a conversation. Since it's about the FACT that Alberto lied regarding his involvement in prosecutor firings, trolls were stumped for at least 100 posts. Then, someone simply called Mohammed a child molestor, someone else reacted and they were off and running. Some arrogantly insisted nobody would "debate" them on any subject. Some just kept the religious slander going. Many simply repeated tired old strawman arguments about liberals. But none that I can see wanted to talk about the thread. None can really defend the Attorney General's lies. I think it's important to understand how these cultists work. And, it's up to us to deal with trolls. My suggestion: don't take the bait. I take the bait too often myself, but looking at this thread it's clear that we should try to stick to the topic and simply not argue with these trolls about irrelevant nonsense. Don't let them derail meaningful discussions. This thread is an interesting demonstration of the method trolls use to attempt to derail a conversation. Since it’s about the FACT that Alberto lied regarding his involvement in prosecutor firings, trolls were stumped for at least 100 posts. Then, someone simply called Mohammed a child molestor, someone else reacted and they were off and running. Some arrogantly insisted nobody would “debate” them on any subject. Some just kept the religious slander going. Many simply repeated tired old strawman arguments about liberals. But none that I can see wanted to talk about the thread. None can really defend the Attorney General’s lies.

I think it’s important to understand how these cultists work. And, it’s up to us to deal with trolls. My suggestion: don’t take the bait. I take the bait too often myself, but looking at this thread it’s clear that we should try to stick to the topic and simply not argue with these trolls about irrelevant nonsense. Don’t let them derail meaningful discussions.

]]> By: lightning http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2532112 lightning Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:00:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2532112 Well, members of the Bush Administration are nothing if not consistent. God I can't wait for all of these criminals to pass into history! Well, members of the Bush Administration are nothing if not consistent. God I can’t wait for all of these criminals to pass into history!

]]> By: Abandoned Stuff by Saskboy » Blog Archive » Gonzales the first of the executive to be indicted? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2532070 Abandoned Stuff by Saskboy » Blog Archive » Gonzales the first of the executive to be indicted? Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:58:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2532070 [...] ThinkProgress has more on what this means. TGB has some background info. [...] [...] ThinkProgress has more on what this means. TGB has some background info. [...]

]]> By: dono http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2531881 dono Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:51:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2531881 'as you might imagine... like a CEO' he isnt aware of every decision. Okay get off the guys back for a minute. The children will understand. If we sit down and tell him we are not mad and he will not be punished, I am sure he will tell the truth. Still he will have to save his allowance to replace the window he broke playing baseball in the back yard... ‘as you might imagine… like a CEO’ he isnt aware of every decision. Okay get off the guys back for a minute. The children will understand.

If we sit down and tell him we are not mad and he will not be punished, I am sure he will tell the truth. Still he will have to save his allowance to replace the window he broke playing baseball in the back yard…

]]> By: War4Sale http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2529394 War4Sale Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:03:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2529394 What are <strong>"the children"</strong> going to think now that Alberto has shown them what a corrupt liar he is? What are “the children” going to think now that Alberto has shown them what a corrupt liar he is?

]]> By: keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2529207 keith Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:53:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2529207 I go to a progressive blog and I get gangbangers lecturing on foreign policy and morality. Is this a f^d up country or what? I wonder if Switzerland will accept someone seeking political asylum from this fascist state? I go to a progressive blog and I get gangbangers lecturing on foreign policy and morality. Is this a f^d up country or what? I wonder if Switzerland will accept someone seeking political asylum from this fascist state?

]]> By: Kate Henry http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2528877 Kate Henry Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:41:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2528877 This puts Gonzo into a damned if you do and damned if you don't position. If he knew nothing about it, that makes him a very negligent manager and if he did know about it, that makes him an attorney general who participated in making the US Attorney's into Republic party political operatives. Gonzo has got to go. But, I hope that after he is gone, the Democrats don't drop the investigation. We need to know the whole story. This puts Gonzo into a damned if you do and damned if you don’t position. If he knew nothing about it, that makes him a very negligent manager and if he did know about it, that makes him an attorney general who participated in making the US Attorney’s into Republic party political operatives.

Gonzo has got to go. But, I hope that after he is gone, the Democrats don’t drop the investigation. We need to know the whole story.

]]> By: shane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2528557 shane Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:28:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2528557 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 03/ 22/ AR2007032201882.html Comment by mrJJ — March 24, 2007 @ 11:03 am Thanks for the link. Welcome to the new America. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 03/ 22/ AR2007032201882.html

Comment by mrJJ — March 24, 2007 @ 11:03 am

Thanks for the link. Welcome to the new America.

]]> By: shane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2528499 shane Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:17:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2528499 sleep wid one I opin Rodan, Comment by Sigh Crow — March 24, 2007 @ 2:55 am You make me proud, son. sleep wid one I opin Rodan,

Comment by Sigh Crow — March 24, 2007 @ 2:55 am

You make me proud, son.

]]> By: shane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2528486 shane Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:16:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2528486 Wishful thinking, but it would be nice if President Pelosi appointed Bush as Ambassador to Iraq; Cheney to Syria; and Gonzales to Iran. Rice can go to N. Korea. And Powell to Cuba, where he’ll have to look at Guantanamo for the rest of his days. Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 24, 2007 @ 2:46 am Wow you have a knack for designating appointments. Only thing is I thought Bush was going to Guantanamo. Iraq will work though. Wishful thinking, but it would be nice if President Pelosi appointed Bush as Ambassador to Iraq; Cheney to Syria; and Gonzales to Iran. Rice can go to N. Korea. And Powell to Cuba, where he’ll have to look at Guantanamo for the rest of his days.

Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 24, 2007 @ 2:46 am

Wow you have a knack for designating appointments. Only thing is I thought Bush was going to Guantanamo. Iraq will work though.

]]> By: shane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/comment-page-11/#comment-2528300 shane Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:09:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/breaking-gonzales-approved-firings-of-us-attorneys/#comment-2528300 Hey It’s funny you hate your fellow Black Americans but lick butts of your Islamic enemies. You are a traitor. Comment by Rich Porter — March 24, 2007 @ 2:26 am I believe I was saying I respect Black Americans and their integrity more than you white militia neocon types. Obviously you have a hard time reading complete sentences. I can understand why Black Americans would be angry and why they feel the need to defend themselves and fight for what should be theirs. What I don't understand is why White Americans, who are fortunate by birthrite, aren't grateful for the advantages they were born with. But loser White Americans want to blame everybody but themselves for their failures - maybe you should go talk to your drinking, smoking uneducated mothers and bitch at them instead of us for your failures. Hey It’s funny you hate your fellow Black Americans but lick butts of your Islamic enemies.
You are a traitor.

Comment by Rich Porter — March 24, 2007 @ 2:26 am

I believe I was saying I respect Black Americans and their integrity more than you white militia neocon types. Obviously you have a hard time reading complete sentences.
I can understand why Black Americans would be angry and why they feel the need to defend themselves and fight for what should be theirs.
What I don’t understand is why White Americans, who are fortunate by birthrite, aren’t grateful for the advantages they were born with.
But loser White Americans want to blame everybody but themselves for their failures – maybe you should go talk to your drinking, smoking uneducated mothers and bitch at them instead of us for your failures.

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