Bush promises to veto House Iraq bill.
By on Mar 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Bush promises to veto House Iraq bill.
“I will veto it if it comes to my desk,” Bush said, adding that he thinks the legislation has “no chance of becoming law.”
UPDATE: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reacts to the bill’s passage: “The American people have lost faith in the president’s conduct of this war. … The American people see the reality of the war, the president does not.”
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Congress should promise to impeach Bush. Now.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pmAmerica has spoken.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pmMore military personnel as backdrops. Looking more like Saddam every day.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pmcheck out that chick behind him giving him the evil eye...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pmWOO HOO!
What is the Article of Impeachment going to read, Publicus -- for exercising his right to veto legislation?!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmIf this were any other country on earth, where people know they outnumber the greedy b*st*rds and know they can do something about corruption, we the people would have stormed the gates and driven the Boy Who Would Be King out of the WhiteHouse.
Alas, everyone is too busy watching "Celebrity T*ts Do NASCAR" to care.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmHere's an idea. Let the President veto it; and DON'T send him another bill authorizing funding. That ends the war.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pm"I will veto this bill. I got us into this horrible mess I will not allow us to get out of it until they (un-christians) are all dead and we have all their oil"
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pmJake --
Put your body where your mouth is -- go to Iraq.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 pm"Ya see, this bill can't be come law, cuz, ya know, if it becomes a law, then I'm not uh 'War President' anymore. I ain't nevah gonna be an Andover cheerleader agin."
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 pmGood...
...then we can find a way to...
...VETO your a*s...
...you corrupt, ignorant son-of-pig forking scum...
...this bastich oughta have his "show" cancelled...
...ASAP...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:14 pmDoes Bush even know where he put the fu-king VETO pen. I'd look up Roves Azz??
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:14 pmBush has no choice but to get that money as the Saudi's told Cheney. No more rubber stamp 109th Congress and all the crimes coming to light Bush has to break the law again. Bush uses the soldiers as his reason for the money yet he cut funding to our troops. If you don't believe me look at Walter Reed and other military hospitals that care for our injured troops who are living with mice/roaches/mold and maggots in their wounds. Troops don't have the supplies they need and never have. The Iraq military supports Al Sadr and all those weapons stolen by the terrorist are better equipped then US troops. Bush said things are going good while the UN Secretary visits Iraq when a bomb goes off 50 feet from the US Secretary. Now Bush will have no choice but to change the law and take the money he needs for pay offs or else he and Cheney are in trouble.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pmLying to Congress and the American people. Violating habeas corpus. Creating secret prisons. Torture. Just for starters.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pmWe don't need a General Pelosi.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pmIs that "Lord of The Flies" on the mantle back here?.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmGood luck getting 2/3 of the Senators on board with that!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmcheck out that chick behind him giving him the evil eye…
Comment by katy
HAHAHA! Yeah, katy, she looks like she's thinking "Oh you schmuck! Where's my AK-47 when I need it?"
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmVets standing in support behind this man after Walter Reed? Thats like me buying lube for the guy who raped my sister. What the F*CK planet are we on now???????????
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmJake ... you STILL here? If you really believed in the war in Iraq, you'd be there fighting it. The truth is: You want OTHER people to die for your sick satisfaction.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmDear Pres.,
Using our troops as human shields to protect your ego and ambition are the most disgusting transgression of human decency ever committed by an American. Serial killers have that kind of integrity.
ps - thanks for helping advance the cause for impeachment - again
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmThis is indeed a shocking development. Shocking.
I'm sure everyone is stunned that The Decider is going to veto this bill. I was sure he was eager to have someone to blame for the eventual disaster in Iraq . . . oh, wait. As important as the bill is, it also plays right into Dick & George's plan. Now when the inevitable arrives, it will all be the fault of those damn defeatofascists in Congress. If it hadn't been for that damn bill, we would have had a glorious victory.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmWe don't either, she is doing just fine as Speaker of the House. Eat it b!tch.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmJake, I thought you were done talking to us.
Don't you have some child porno to download, maybe go chat with your friends at stormfront.org, protest in a pro-war rally, listen to that addict Rush, read the left behind series of apocalyptic mayhem and blood letting death for your fellow American books, a falfel to go purchase?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmDrip, drip, drip, drip.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmBush the XVI will hang his own party! Give him more rope. He just admitted plans to veto troop redeployments to Afghanistan ...you know, where the original bastards are.
Bush XVI could eff up a county fair!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmUPDATE: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reacts to the bill’s passage: “The American people have lost faith in the president’s conduct of this war. … The American people see the reality of the war, the president does not.â€
That's right, Nancy, the American people are getting copied on each day's Presidential Daily Briefing and military commander updates rather than more interested in Howard Stern "fixing" American Idol. Uh huh.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmI hope that conditions get so intense for the Chimp that he starts growing a moustache and yelling "sieg heil" at the end of each of his wayward pronouncements.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pmWe don’t need a General Pelosi.
Comment by Flaco — March 23, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
But we could sure use some Private Flacos!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pmFlac: "We don’t need a General Pelosi." - - As long as we have an Emperor Bush, we do.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pmCongratulations to Speaker Pelosi for successfully herding the cats into one bill and one voice that speaks for the American people! She is dynamite, and so are all the Reps who voted for the bill!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pm#7, I was thinking the same thing. Only if Bush vetos the bill doesn't that mean that Bush is denying funding to our troops; that he is the one failing to fund the troops?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pmGood…
…then we can find a way to…
…VETO your a*s…
…you corrupt, ignorant son-of-pig forking scum…
…this bastich oughta have his “show†cancelled…
…ASAP…
Comment by big papa
Look at this poor fellas random thoughts.
They need to check his medication.
Big mama u listening?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pmDemocrats know that Bush is going to veto the bill.
If Democrats are thinking of stopping the war..they should go and examine the authorization they gave to Bush based on Neocons hyping the claims of Saddam's WMD,and the easy win they were going to get in Iraq.
Democrats should invesitgate these claims that were made before the war,where did they start and who was behind them.
Now Democcrats gave Bush something he was waiting for....using 'SUPPORTING THE TROOPS' against them...the last card left that Bush has in this war in Iraq . Bush will use it now against Democrats repeatedly.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pmThat pic is great! She does have that "shut up, you AWOL frat boy. Coward." look.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pmHe obviously didn't learn anything from the "thumpin'" he got.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pmKing George the Turd
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:23 pmThis will simply be another stark reminder of why we need a Democrat in the Whitehouse again. I look for his approval ratings to enter the 20's very soon. What he's really doing is ruining any chance that his brother Jeb might successfully run and that's a good thing.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:23 pmImpeach the War-Pig . . . and his little buddy . . . junior.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:23 pmChimpy looks old, tired and haggard in that photo.
Being a failed president must really wear him out.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:24 pmDear Pres.,
Using our troops as human shields to protect your ego and ambition is the-most-disgusting transgression of human decency ever committed by an American. Serial killers have that kind of integrity.
Yours Truly,
Anyone With a Conscience
ps - thanks for advancing the cause for impeachment - again
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:24 pmWhat is the Article of Impeachment going to read, Publicus — for exercising his right to veto legislation?!!
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Baby steps, Sparky. Impeachment wasn't built in a day - ask Bill Clinton, They took years before they finally ginned up a perjury trap. Baby steps.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:24 pmGood luck getting 2/3 of america back on board with the president's 'iraq forever' war plan
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:25 pmBush: 'Iraq deadline bill is 'political theater' - - He said, with current and former veterans surrounding him for the TV cameras.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:25 pmJake just doesn't sound 75 anymore...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:25 pmWe don’t need a General Pelosi.
Comment by Flaco
Nor a General Bush.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmSigh Crow @24 NICE
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmTalking "tough" makes Bush think (incorrectly) that he's a man. He's a thug who personally HID from war (as did his "tough" Vice President) but is PROUD of sending young men and women to Iraq without armor to have their limbs blown off, and to be killed.
Easy from his comfortable chair in the White House.
Tough my ass. Cowards and thugs.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmChimpy doesn't need money from Congress to fund his illegal occupation of Iraq.
He's making billions on the sale of Afghan heroin. He can fund the war with that.
Sybil Edmunds, the FBI whistleblower, was investigating the Afghanistan-Turkey-US Heroin connection when she blew the whistle on the US government trying to cover it up. Chimpy put a national security gag order on her to keep her from going to the press.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmI remember when Bush said he'd stay in Iraq even if only Laura and his dog were behind him.
I think we're there.... and I am not so sure that even Barney doesn't agree with the rest of us that Iraq is a disaster and a total failure.
Sign the damn law, George.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmhey jake - my wife's kinda sick after her chemo today. just thought i'd cheer you up...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmBush just got slapped in the face.
I do believe madam Speaker now understand the power given them by the American people. Come 2008, We The People will give them even more power.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmI have never seen such a gutless, heartless, worthless, spineless, clueless, careless, reckless and hopeless president. He is unbelievably bad. Laughably bad. Disgracefully bad.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmAnyone else notice how cavalier and uncompassionate the national dialog has become about the continued extermination of an innocent people (Iraqis) and the discussion of expanding the extermination to include another group of innocent people (Iranians)?
How "german" of us. Circa 1937, of course.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pm"We don't need a General Pelosi"
We need a President Pelosi.
Simultaneously impeach Chimpy and Cheney and remove them from office, and she's next in line.
President Pelosi. I like the sound of that.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmsorry for multi-post.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:28 pmWhy the veto pen now? Are signing statements no longer good enough?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:28 pmIt's True: no authorization for funds, war ends! Instead, the Republicrats (Ds&Rs)who gave Bush all the funding his lying ass asked for, now will tuck their tails in and give him a "clean" bill, w/o any time table etc.. but they will be committing pol suicide if they do.. and they will lose their majority as well. Stop the war now, not in '08! Not one more death for oil!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 pmNor a General Bush.
Comment by dlet
More like we don't need an Emperor Bush.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 pmBaby steps, Sparky. Impeachment wasn’t built in a day - ask Bill Clinton, They took years before they finally ginned up a perjury trap. Baby steps.
Comment by Barfly
Not much time left tic toc tic toc...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 pmpgw:
Bush has never said "We are staying in Iraq forever" -- no wonder you are so upset -- he said "As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down."
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 pmPublicus at #7 at 2:12 pm
You are absolutely right. It would only take one Senator to filibuster against funding the warand 41 abstentions to sustain the filibuster. There are 51 Democrat Senators and most of them claim to be against the war so it should not be against the bounds of reason to expect at least one of them to filibuster agsint the funding. Then the congress can come up with a bill to bring the troops home as rapidly and as safely as possible. This is assuming that these Democrats have the courage of their convictions.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 pm#27, Jake, are you sure you want to bring up the President's Daily Briefing?
Because he pays so much attention to those that he snoozed through warnings about an attack that killed 3000 citizens.
So kindly bugger off.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:31 pmPaul:
I hope they do indeed commit political suicide.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 pmTuber dude, whoa moonbat!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 pm"What is the Article of Impeachment going to read..." Comment by Jake
The Word That Dare Not Speak Its Name: In these highly-charged political times, it is the word that dare not speak its name: impeachment. Democrats and other opponents of the President, as well as people in the media, are afraid to raise the topic for fear of being called too partisan or extreme. But the startling revelation of the President’s warrantless wiretapping campaign may be the straw that broke the camel's back: In the halls of Congress and on the front pages of a growing number of mainstream periodicals, impeachment is being discussed more and more openly. And many leading constitutional scholars agree: there has never been so strong a case for impeachment since Richard Nixon. Continued here...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 pmPaulRevere at #58
Well said. Are these Democrats truly anti-war or are they simply poseurs, speaking rhetoric for the sake of political expediency?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 pm#50
I think Barney may have lifted his little scottish leg and pissed on the Dubster's foot right after he made his news conference..
And regarding the babe in the background....has anyone else thought that what she might actually be thinking was "ok, I'll do it for god and country and all that apple pie stuff. Whip that 3 incher out Dubya and i'll suck it so we can impeach you". Thats what her look says to me.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:33 pmBush has never said “We are staying in Iraq forever†— no wonder you are so upset — he said “As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€
Comment by Jake
Which mean we are staying in Iraq forever. Anybody who isn't carrying water for these criminals knows better than to take anything he says at face value.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:33 pmErrol:
What do you think Lieberman would do in response to a filibuster for troop funding? Constitutional option, here we come!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:33 pmChimpy will probably sign the bill, but with a signing statement that says he doesn't have to obey the pullout schedule.
Chimpy has nothing but contempt for Congress, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, Habeus Corpus, the Geneva Conventions.... if it's a law, Chimpy hates it.
The Repukes are crooks, liars and traitors.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pmThe Chimperor is going down, his desperation is nothing but fun to watch. The end of the Bush regime is near, let the final blows to the worst President in US history knock his sorry ass out of power.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pmJake sez:
Is that a fact, Jake?
Funny...I seem to recall him saying something different.
Keep settin' 'em up, Shakey, and I'll keep knockin' 'em back.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 pmPut this in perspective folks...
...Bushiva asks for supplemental "emergency" war funding...
...Congress says:
"We'll give it to ya but you'll have to do A,B, and C...
...Bushiva vetoes said bill...
...Repulsivescum WON't help override the veto...
...STALEMATE...
...troops get NO funding...
...whose fault is that?
...can't blame the Democrats, they passed a bill for funding the troops...
...Bushiva VETOED it!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 pmWe don’t need a General Pelosi.
Comment by Flaco
We don't need anymore Flacos Heros: Howard L. Brooks: The Republican staffer was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 pm“As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€
Comment by Jake
They never will stand up because our troops are there to do the job for them. Why should they risk their lives to save Iraqi democracy when the Americans are there to do that for them?
We need to stand down so that they CAN stand up and fight for what is theirs.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 pm“We don’t need a General Pelosiâ€
We don't need an aWol commander in chief
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 pmAs soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€
Comment by Jake
Isn't that just another euphemism for cut and run or redeployment?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:36 pmBecause he pays so much attention to those that he snoozed through warnings about an attack that killed 3000 citizens.
Comment by PeterW
No, he was too busy writing that he had to go to the potty and drawing doodles.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmThe only way the war will end before the next election is through impeachment. Put it back on the table!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmveto is pretty much a way of life for Bush these days... he's vetoing Congress on open, sworn testimony from his criminal aides...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmThe Chimperor is going down
I like that, think I'm gonna have to start using it.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmThe moron complains of "political theater" then does a shameless photo op with vets and soldiers.
I guess only the decider-in-chief is allowed to aggrandize himself.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 pmCONservative:
Do you have a question for me?
Proud Dem:
Because this is their last chance to do so.
enaud:
We don't have an awol Commander in Chief.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmGood...let him veto it. At least that would be the first time Bush ISN'T a total, sniveling coward that has to hide behind Cheney and Rove and his press conferences. Makes threats on TV in hopes of intimidating people so HE doesn't have to do anything is cowardice. So is passing bills while making signing statements because he's too afraid to tell the world what he is really up to.
Let the Dems send this resolution to him and let Bush veto it. He'll see how far he gets without any money for his war plans. Or better yet, we'll see how far he gets when Cheney realizes Haliburton won't be getting more funding.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pm“As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€
hey wow, you're right! a slogan has made me see the light. remember when bush said that 3 years ago?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmHoward L. Brooks: The Republican staffer was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography
Jake I bet you think this GrOPer guy should get a pardon huh? Being a staffer and executive privilege and all that, right?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmBush has never said “We are staying in Iraq forever†— no wonder you are so upset — he said “As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.†Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Ah, here Jake'ing off again with your *weaseling* again old man? How embarrassing for you that Bush has so openly contradicted himself on this issue.
George W. Bush, 4/9/99:
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.â€
George W. Bush, 6/5/99
“I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.â€
George W. Bush, 6/24/05:
“It doesn’t make any sense to have a timetable. You know, if you give a timetable, you’re — you’re conceding too much to the enemy.â€
BHAHA poor CONS, to have to live with their own hypocrisy, and they're too st*pid to even know it!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 pmWe don’t have an awol Commander in Chief.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
We do according to George Bush's 1999 quote. But it's nice that you CONS hold your own leaders to a *lower* standard - that explains bush! hehehe
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 pmJake sez:
Remember, CONservative, make it a nice, easy softball...if it makes Jakey think too hard he'll get a tummyache, and then he'll put you on The List â„¢ in retaliation, ^_^
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmWe don’t have an awol Commander in Chief.
Comment by Jake
Yes. You do. Besides he signed up for six years and then when he got tired of playing jet jockey he bailed out (with help from dad) after 4 years. Some 'Patriot'.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmThis should have never been "our fight" in the first place. Yes, Sadam needed to be out of power. We did that. But the rest should be up to them.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:45 pm"Bush has never said “We are staying in Iraq forever†— no wonder you are so upset — he said “As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€"
you should pass that message on to the parents of the troops stationed in iraq. let me know how that goes.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:45 pmCONservative:
Do you have a question for me?
Nope, I read enough nonsensical right-wing talking points on here without having to solicit them, thank you.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:46 pmIf I was a war amputee, I'd throw my prosthetic leg at him, .....but I'd probably be sitting in a roach motel waiting for one.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 pmIf Bush refuses a bill to leave Iraq in August of 2008,that means we will never leave Iraq.....
This war is draining this country financially.
Every few months you hear a big figure in the tens of billions of dollars is more requested for this war...not forget the coffins arriving home and the wounded that this country is obligated to take care of....
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:48 pmJake, Mission Accomplished! The war has long been over in Iraq. That's why all the fuss by the WH about calling what's been happening a civil war --a civil war ain't America's fight! Iraq has a new government and so it's time to redeploy. The only reason for staying now is to meddle in Iraqi affairs. Congress has limited the terms of military engagement in the past and has the right to do so. Bush can veto, but then he doesn't get the money, does he? And then he's the one not supporting the troops. And redeploy is not "cut & run"; far more troops are needed in Afghanistan which is the real battlefield in the War on Terror. If Bush won't redeploy, it's time to fire the little MacArthur wannabe.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:48 pmIf he wants the money for his pet war he needs to sign the bill. Sounds fair to me. Congress can finally hold the president by the balls and it's 'bout time.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:48 pmWe don’t have an awol Commander in Chief.
Comment by Jake
"The halfwit spoke, the brainless believed."
-Proverb
AWOL = Absent Without Leave. Bush was absent on two separate occasions. Once for a period of 6 months in 1972 and once for a period of almost 3 months in 1973 - where was he? Did he get official leave? Or just another free pass because of who he is? The answer to that seems self-evident.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:49 pmThe List â„¢ eh? Excuse me while I go laugh my @$$ off, is The List â„¢ similar to Bill-O's??
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:49 pmDid anyone catch the big story on the CNN homepage - "Bush spokesman Snow has growth in abdomen "????
Tony Snow is carrrying Bush's baby!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:50 pm
#65,
Please list what you believe that the 600,000 already exterminated Iraqis were guilty of, other than being Iraqi of course.
Be specific.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:50 pmWhen will the Demorats get some cajones???
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:51 pmWhen will the Demorats get some cajones???
Comment by Flaco — March 23, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
When will the Republicans get some brains, to realize they don't have either cajones or brains?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmIt's like Quato from Total Recall. A little ugly Bush coming out of Tony's stomach.
"Open your mind."
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmWhen will the Demorats get some cajones???
Long before the chickenhawks in the WH do...
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmpgw:
I do remember that -- do you remember this right after 9/11:
BTW: I think most parents of our young military men and women support their mission — did you hear Dr. Laura yesterday on the radio "spitting" at those who are burning effigies (sp?) of our soldiers?
CONservative:
You're welcome.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmIt is very important this be framed as a matter of Bush using troops as human shields, because, well, that's exactly what he's doing.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmWhen will Flaco get some cojones and enlist for duty in Iraq?
Put up or shut up, chickenhawk.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmWhen will Flaco get some sex from a woman?!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmThe only way the war will end before the next election is through impeachment. Put it back on the table!
Comment by Peter — March 23, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Then there's no way Bush is leaving office before his term is up. The Dems haven't got a prayer of getting impeachment going in the time remaining, much less getting Bush out of his chair. Congress modifying the Military Authorization is the only way to contain the damage now. Funding magic tricks are only going to backfire on them when Bush says "Well, those bad nasty Dems cut our supply lines" and you know what? He'll be right. The only way to do it is how the Dems are doing it. Come up with deadlines to show progress, and if progress isn't made, bring our boys home. Tell Bush to clean up the yard or we'll take his toys away. Sure he'll veto the first bill, which will show everyone exactly where he stands and insult the authority of Congress on the matter. That, in turn will shake some more of his Republican backers out of the tree to join Pelosi's gang. Then Pelosi might have the 2/3 she needs to shut his a** up. That's the only way it's going to work in the time remaining unless someone puts a couple of bullets in Bush and Cheney and makes Pelosi president.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmJake;if just one half of one percent of you warlovers would just SIGN UP their would be no problems with troop numbers.Can you explain why you and your ilk are such obvious cowards?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pm30% support for this war equals around 90 million American cowards. Your chicken ass sit's at home with the rest of them
david:
Bush can veto and, if Congress does not vote to fund without restrictions, then the consequences of that will be THEIR fault -- just like Newt shutting down the government completely was his fault, remember? For instance, if Congress passed a spending bill that included a provision that everyone named "David" was also to be shot on sight, you would expect Bush to veto that as well, right?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pm"...unless someone puts a couple of bullets in Bush and Cheney and makes Pelosi president."
Thanks for brightening up my day. If that ever happens, it should be declared a national holiday and the assassin should be given immunity from prosecution and hailed as an American hero.
Death to Tyrants!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pmYep he went aWol. His Daddy fixed it though.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pmThat’s the only way it’s going to work in the time remaining unless someone puts a couple of bullets in Bush and Cheney and makes Pelosi president
Moonbat frenzy!
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pmMoonbat frenzy!
Moonbat frenzy!
Moonbat frenzy!
Moonbat frenzy!
pgw:
"But our resolve must not pass."
Do you remember that?
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:59 pmQuoting a Bush speech carries as much weight as quoting a monologue from a Chuck Norris movie. Saccharine jibber jabber, custom-made to pluck the heart-strings of the slow.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:59 pm...That’s the only way it’s going to work in the time remaining unless someone puts a couple of bullets in Bush and Cheney and makes Pelosi president.
Comment by swordsbane
Eye for an eye
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmAlbert:
I certainly can't explain something I am not -- I did my tour of duty -- anymore than I can explain when I stopped beating my wife because I have never, in fact, beat her.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmGood point Albert. If the Repukes support this war so much, why are there constant shortages in new recruits?
Repukes talk tough, but run like chickens when the going gets rough.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmAs soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€
Comment by Jake
No! Please tell me it isn't true! Isn't this the same argument conservatives and libertarians have railed against for decades? When it was the Great Society era, republicans railed against affirmative action, saying in essence: the argument that the Blacks needed assistance to reach equality (or, in this present case, democracy) was actually what was holding them back! If we'd just let Blacks stand on their own two feet, they'd prove that American ideals (or in the present case, American democracy) worked for everyone. My, how things have changed.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmJake - what is 'their mission'? I thought our mission was to bring those responsible for 9/11 to justice. I don't know if you've noticed but Osama is still on the run. We were lied to by this administration on the reasons for attacking Iraq. So, please, tell me and our soldiers - what is the mission?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmCONservative sez:
Jake, CONservative asked you a question...
...or was that too 'insulting' for you?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmBush has also never said, "We will read your emails and listen to your phone calls without judicial review" or "We will invade non-threatening countries based on false premises" or "I am an enormous douchebag"
So clearly none of those things is true either.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmThe only moonbats in here are the Repuke trolls.
They all live in a Bizarro World of Repuke spin and lies.
They have had a psychotic break from reality.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmWhat is "cajones"? Is it the inhuman ability to unleash the mightiest army in the world against a starving and unarmed civilian population that had nothing to with 9/11 and never posed a threat to anybody?
If that is "cajones", I hope the Democrats never get any "cajones".
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmJake, you so ignorantly combine 9/11 with Iraq. This is simply not the case and has been proven time and time again. You want resolve? Place 200,000 troops on the Pakistan border and give a timetable to give up OBL. You wouldn't get much of an argument against that if it was presented right. Let's reignite the resolve to bring to justice those who did attack us. Our president faltered here and veered off course drastically. Under planned Iraq and has left a mess.
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Advocating the assassination of the President or Vice President is pretty low, people. Now I am glad there really is an Ignore List. Sickos!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmAs soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€
Comment by Jake
Ha ha ha. So, a 5000 y/o warrior culture is NOT ready to stand up? Keep on the fast food and the Hollywood blockbusters coming, buddy.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmI'm about to cry, because there's another person named Jake who posts comments on this website.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmswordsbane was on The List (tm) a long time ago, so why are you responding?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:03 pmhappy friday to you TMM!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:04 pmIn as much as I hate this administration I don't wish for Bush/Cheney's assasination. Impeach them and move on, 70% of of get it as for the other 30%, I wish I could figure out a way to have them each send me $20.00. I'd be richer then I am now.:)
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmAdvocating the death of treasonous tyrants is OK in my book.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmMoonbat frenzy!
Comment by Flaco
It's looking like a Flaco frenzy to me.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmCongress added $21 billion to a bill that they *know* will be vetoed by Pres. Bush. The only purpose for this bill is political grandstanding by the Dems.
Meanwhile, as Pres. Bush said in a press conference, our troops are the ones who will suffer.
Oh yeah, this is a fine example of supporting the troops.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmArgh! It's getting too hard to post. Must be all that troll guano clogging up the blog. I'll be back later.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pmJake, CONservative asked you a question…
…or was that too ‘insulting’ for you?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Jake is very sensitive.
**eyes rolling**
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pm"do you remember this right after 9/11"
trying to tie iraq to 9/11. i guess you have to, otherwise the cognitive dissonance would burn a hole in your brain. and i'm not the least bit interested in dr. laura attacking a straw man. what happened to all the iraqi troops that bush said were ready to "stand up" back when he was running for re-election 3 years ago?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmDale, you're just another lying Repuke troll.
The Dems are supporting our troops, they passed the funding bill.
Chimpy is the one who doesn't support our troops. Walter Reed and the rest of the military hospitals are proof of that.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pm"Congress added $21 billion to a bill that they *know* will be vetoed by Pres. Bush. The only purpose for this bill is political grandstanding by the Dems.
Meanwhile, as Pres. Bush said in a press conference, our troops are the ones who will suffer.
Oh yeah, this is a fine example of supporting the troops.
Comment by Dale — March 23, 2007 @ 3:05 pm"
As Bush has military personnel in the background........
Who's grandstanding?????
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmCONservative:
Were you asking this question to me: "The List ™ eh?" I have no idea what Bill-O’s is.
JuanC:
I do not see you on my Ignore List -- is that a mistake?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmoh whatsamadda, Dale? christ you righties are some sniveling little
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmwhiners. Man up, chickenhawk!
From one month ago:
Lieberman could turn control of the Senate over to the Republicans. Won't that be a bitter pill for Connecticut to swallow!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmOh yeah, this is a fine example of supporting the troops.
Comment by Dale
But the best way is to keep them in the middle of a civil war. Sure.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmHey, Flatus:
How it feel to know you're endorsing affirmative action for Iraqis? Does it stir your conservative soul, to have finally endorsed the tenets of Johnson's Great Society, and the War on Poverty?
Ha, ha, ha, ha . . .
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmSpudge_Boy sez:
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Jake ...you did your tour of duty? Too scary for you to return? Why not do another tour? You must be aware that many soldiers are doing multiple tours at this point.That men are going back on duty while still hurt or without enough rest.Why are you unable to serve at a time when your most needed?I think the first tour was a tad too scary for you and you chickened out like the rest of the 90 million,30% cowards like you.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pmZooey:a flaming flaco fiasco feeding frenzied friday of fun!!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pm#137 Hey Dale, the democrats are sticking to the republicans the same way republicans forced their hand on these blank checks to Bush. Besides, Chimpy has $400,000,000.00 already alocated for this war thanks to the last congress, let the sorry bastrad spend that money.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pm#126
What is “cajones� Is it the inhuman ability to unleash the mightiest army in the world against a starving and unarmed civilian population that had nothing to with 9/11 and never posed a threat to anybody?
If that is “cajonesâ€, I hope the Democrats never get any “cajonesâ€.
Comment by Abby
I like this posters comment a thinker and compassionate, wise too..
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmMighty armies will not win the Iraqi people their freedom.
whiteyfresh sez:
And a joyous Friday to you! Partake of a hot dog on this blessed day!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmWe should fix whats wrong here before we fix anything else. We have/are going to spend ourselves into a third world country. God isn't going to make everything alright. We got to help our selves.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pm#141... Tom3, what exactly did I lie about? $21 billion WAS added to a military spending bill... so was that a lie? The Dems passed a bill that they KNOW will not be signed into law; it was grandstanding pure and simple.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pmI do not see you on my Ignore List — is that a mistake?
Comment by Jake
Huh? I guess I missed something.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmam i getting tested on all of bush's slogans and talking points? how bout walter reed. do you remember that?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmpgw:
Whether you like it or not, Iraq IS the central front in our war against terrorists right now. Note I will not imply any brain defect in you clicking your heels and wishing that were not true. I brought up Dr. Laura as just one example to back up my point that most parents of troops in harm's way back the mission. As for "what happened to all the iraqi troops that bush said were ready to “stand up†back when he was running for re-election 3 years ago" the terrorists were able to spark Sunni-Shi'a violence, even bombing their OWN mosques, so - yes, every war plan does not survive the first encounter with the enemy -- what's new??
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pm#146, no, it's much better to pull the d*mn rug out from under them...
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmLieberman could turn control of the Senate over to the Republicans. Won’t that be a bitter pill for Connecticut to swallow!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Can Lieberman be recalled by the people of CT?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:15 pmZooey:a flaming flaco fiasco feeding frenzied friday of fun!!!!
Comment by whiteyfresh
Whitey, that's one big smile on my face! Thanks!
See ya'll later....
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmBriseadh na Faire:
Now, would that be CT's fault, or the Democrats for pushing a position they can't win anyways?!
Albert:
My tour was in Korea, thank you very much. Is the Army accepting 75 year-olds now?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmI do not see you on my Ignore List — is that a mistake?
Comment by Jake
Huh? I guess I missed something.
Comment by Juan C
Jake started a list of people he won't respond back to because they hurt his feelings. Just say you want to be on the list. It's better that way.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmRemember, CONservative, make it a nice, easy softball…if it makes Jakey think too hard he’ll get a tummyache, and then he’ll put you on The List ™ in retaliation, ^_^
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
I thought being on The List â„¢ meant that I could just ignore Jake. I actually figured out how to do that without being on The List â„¢.
If more people would just realize what a waste of energy it was to respond to Jake, we wouldn't even need The List â„¢.
These threads would be about 50% shorter and 500% more intelligent.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmno, it’s much better to pull the d*mn rug out from under them…
Comment by Dale
Yeah, cuz SoD was doing such a good job at not risking soldiers lives. Yep.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:18 pmJake … you STILL here? If you really believed in the war in Iraq, you’d be there fighting it. The truth is: You want OTHER people to die for your sick satisfaction.
Comment by Publicus — March 23, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Jake LIES about being 75 years old as his hout for not being in Iraq. It's only one of the many he tells. Acts like a lawyer, isn't. Acts like a doctor, again false. Acts like he has a clue, makes shit up or gets it from Rove.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:18 pmThe colloquialisms he uses are right out of the West Wing, not the show.
Yeah Dale that's a great way to support the troops - divert their talents away from the real war on terror in Afghanistan, throw them into someone else's civil war, give them shoddy gear and low pay, make them walk the streets with no real goal, kick them out if they have any disorders resulting of the horrors they have to face, and provide them with low-end health care when they return.
Yeah you republicans really support the troops - too bad none of you could display an ounce of empathy for our troops; maybe you could if you didn't dodge the draft.
The best way to support the life of our troops is to keep them out of harm's way.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmAh your the fox dinosaur audience!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmThat explains alot Jake,your irrelevant.
Jake:
"Iraq IS the central front in our war against terrorists right now"
Well of course it is when we've created a blue million more terrorists. Fact is, it wasn't the central front to anything until we started destroying their civilization.
You could eff up a picnic.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmBush doesn't support the troops or he wouldn't veto a bill that gives them the training, equipment and healthcare they deserve.
Bush supports only one thing - Bush's legacy.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmJuan C:
I have instituted an "Ignore List" for anyone who refuses to answer my questions in a civil manner, and your post @ 3:02 pm was dangerously close -- I just wanted to make sure that was not a rhetorical question you aksked or that I had simply mistakenly not included you on the "Ignore List" already. Thanks in advance for clarifying your current situation.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmJust say you want to be on the list. It’s better that way.
Comment by dlet
Ahhh, uh. Thanks for the tip.
Jake will be talking to himself in no time. Like he is right now, pretty much.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:22 pm"Iraq IS the central front in our war against terrorists right now."
you are getting all the administration's talking points in. good for you. you can brag about that on the golf course this weekend. and cognitive dissonance isn't a "brain defect" anymore than willful ignorance or intellectual dishonesty are.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmThis is kind of off-subject, but isn’t it interesting how the same people who think “dissent is the highest form of patriotism†when it comes to the war think that dissent when it comes to global warming is evil?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmWe know this. Only neocon retards would allow their children to join the military during this time. That is also evidence that you fu*kers are a tiny minority of the country. That gives me warm fuzzies.
I feel sorry for the liberals that were already in the military when Bush started this sh!t.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmRedeploy to Afghanistan NOW. That is where the real terrorists are. That is where they were after 911. That is where the Taliban are GAINING STRENGTH. And quit pushing the Afghan farmers into the Taliban's hand with a useless anti drug campaign. For the sake of Pete, where could Afghanistan be now if Bush hadn't diddled around with Saddam. What a waste of global energy this Bush administration has produced.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmI am a very good lawyer, as a matter of fact. And that is why I know (and you don't) that the House of Representatives isn't allowed to try to pass laws unless they are positive they won't be vetoed. Oh yes, and I also know that no one will be convicted from the Valerie Plame affair, since she was not covert and lying to federal prosecutors is not a crime if you work in the White House.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmJust say you want to be on the list. It’s better that way.
Comment by dlet
Ahhh, uh. Thanks for the tip.
Jake will be talking to himself in no time. Like he is right now, pretty much.
Comment by Juan C
Jake also periodically asks "Are there any more questions you want me to answer?", as though he was doing us all an enormous favor by sharing his wisdom. Oddly enough, I've yet to see anyone actually request this act of generosity on his part. If we all join the list, perhaps Jake can find some other blog to torture.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmWhy are the moonbats NOT constantly hammering the Democratic majority in Congress to de-fund the war?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmoooooooooooooooooooooooooo we're soo scared that a regurgitating republicunt is threatening to ignore people - no biggie ...ignore us like you ignore obvious evidence starring you right in the face; won't change a thing.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmNobody gives a fu*k dip sh!t.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmJake is in Rachelland, with his junior-high grade rhetoric, and "list," is like a snobby cheerleader. He's on the "list" of person's I'll go out of my way to debunk. A 75-year-old preppy.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmMight I suggest we do the same for anyone who refuses to engage in reasoned debate and merely parrots Reidh-wing talking points?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmCivil manner, Jake?
Can you help me out here, please? If I call you names and describe you with insults thats not civil, but if I support the actions that have derived in 600,000 civilians, 3200+ of your soldiers, two countries destroyed, the building of a 592 million forthress called embassy, 14 permanent bases, permanent threats against neighbor countries that respond to an occupation, and racism becuz I have the opinion that some arabs cant decide whats best for them, then I do I apply as having civil manners? Whats wrong with you?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmCynicon, even I have to admit, that was just about the stupidest post I've ever read. Talk to me when someone is trying to actually shut you up about your asinine theories on global warming, instead of just calling you stupid for advocating silly, fact-challenged positions.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmStart impeachment proceedings.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:29 pmWe do, you are too much of a dumb fu*k to realize it. Idiot. Say hi to your mommy for me. I really do think you shoul dmove out and take care of yourself.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:29 pmLet Bush veto the bill. Maybe then drone Americans will pay attention to something besides American Idol. NOBODY knows what each persons tipping point is. What will make them say "I can't take this any more." But by poll numbers you can see more people "getting it" every day.
Obviously the White House is worried or we wouldn't have so many trolls around here trying to throw monkey wrenches into the gears.
And now even network news programs bring up issues from blogs. The trolls are good though, when normal, exasperated people read posts here and then see all the trollisms they realize that the truth has been out of their reach since Reagan stole it from them. They don't know about the Fairness Doctrine or why they haven't gotten the truth, but eventually they will. And the White House won't be able to stop it, not anymore.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:30 pmJake sez:
What a damned joke you are, Jake. Even if you were sincere about this ridiculous 'list', it would still be a joke. But you aren't sincere, are you?
Here's a quote from Jake earlier (emphasis mine):
That doesn't sound terribly civil, Jake...but I guess it's OK, as long as a Democrat doesn't do it...just like everything else.
You're a joke, Jake, and a poor one at that.
Log off before you hurt yourself.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:30 pmOk, what civil liberties did the Government violate in the Padilla case?
Give citations in the Allwood format.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:30 pmOh yes, and I also know that no one will be convicted from the Valerie Plame affair, since she was not covert and lying to federal prosecutors is not a crime if you work in the White House.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
But being "a very good lawyer" you should see the large hole in this statement. I won't point it out for you though. You have to figure it out yourself.
Please put me on your list or I will have to resort to uncivil conduct.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:31 pmDisagreeing with the evidence that supports Global Warming isn't "evil" but it is kinda stupid when the evidence supports it. It's just downright funny that the biggest critics of global warming also happen to have close relations with the energy industry - what a coinkydink!
The majority of scientists agree that Global Warming is happening; what is debatable is to what extent man's actions are a factor. You have to be lying to yourself if you think hordes of constant bellowing smoke stacks and a plethora of automobiles and jet engines aren't having some sort of negative effect on our air and atmosphere.
I'll give you a hint - the end of the human race is really bad for business conservatives! No clean air, no humans, no profits, no nothing.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:31 pmJake sez:
I take it you're on your own "ignore list", Jake...else you would have seen plenty of dumber posts.
Actually, the idea that you don't actually read what you write explains quite a bit.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmComment by Cynicon Implant —
Hey, Cynicon. Do you believe that whole "As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down,†stuff? How's it feel to know you’re endorsing affirmative action for Iraqis?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmCynicon, even I have to admit, that was just about the stupidest post I’ve ever read. Talk to me when someone is trying to actually shut you up about your asinine theories on global warming, instead of just calling you stupid for advocating silly, fact-challenged positions.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Oh No! Jake has just put himself on Cynicon's list.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:33 pm#177- Is it dark up there? PeeeUewww!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:33 pmHow “german†of us. Circa 1937, of course.
Comment by Tuber — March 23, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
It's why Japanese Americans were interned here and Germans weren't during WW2 and why we dropped the bomb on Japan instead of Germany.
Americans in their infinite wisdom don't care what we do to brown people or yellow people. But when people are white like them they start to get a little queasy.
Very Christian of us.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmI rode a dinosaur to school, with Adam and Eve.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmI feel sorry for the liberals that were already in the military when Bush started this sh!t.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Spudgie, you must be one of those dummies that John F'in Kerry was talking about who join the army.
At least ur not stuc in Irac.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:35 pmI am a very good lawyer, as a matter of fact.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Ok, what civil liberties did the Government violate in the Padilla case?
Give citations in the Allwood format.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 23, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
Oh Briseadh! Don't confuse him with actual lawyer speak.
BTW did you decide yet on your own practice or joining a firm?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:36 pmgummitch sez:
Actually, I requested it repeatedly...not aware that it was precisely the difficulty of questions I was insisting he answer that landed me on The List â„¢ in the first place...
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:37 pmVery Christian of us!
Exactly cuz every 'merikan knows Jesus was a blond-haired, blue-eyed, anglo-saxon, protestant, who spoke Old English and touted two fully automatic SMGs while blarring C'untry music out of his Ford 451 pickup truck with the antlers on front....woooooooooooooooo doggy!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:38 pmYikes:
That was not me posting as "Jake" at 3:26 pm. I've never stated I'm a lawyer. Let me know if you want to be on the "Ignore List" nonetheless.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:40 pmAre you talking about the uneducated troops? Because even if it was a slip, it is the truth. Anybody that joins the military WITH and education is made a commissioned officer. If you DO NOT have an education, you are made an enlisted soldier (aka a troop). You would know this if you had any military experience, you chicken sh!t chicken hawk.
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Chicken hawk.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:40 pmBut when people are white like them they start to get a little queasy.
Very Christian of us.
Comment by shane
Shane, one thing is to destroy Mitsubishi weapon factory and another one the famous Luftwaffe and Volkswagen. This is regardless of the business Nazis had with the US elite.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:40 pmgummitch sez:
Oddly enough, I’ve yet to see anyone actually request this act of generosity on his part.
Actually, I requested it repeatedly…not aware that it was precisely the difficulty of questions I was insisting he answer that landed me on The List ™ in the first place…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Now that you mention it . . . so, how many of those questions got answered?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:41 pmYes, we have no bananas, we have no bananas today. Hey, Chimpy, want a 'nana? Is it too hard to swing through the jungle on your vine while you're holding your 'nana? Tee-hee! Hoo-boy! Why me titter like a little girl? I titter like Jakey do! Boy, that Cynicon Implant is a real boob, too! Hey, girls- want a 'nana-rooni? Hoo-hoo!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:41 pmHey Fuclo:
John Kerry was right -if you're not rich and smart enough in this country today, the only real career option is joining the military (where you will get sent to Iraq) considering all the good jobs have all but evaporated or, at the least, reduced pay and inducted hiring freezes. Seems just like Ol' USSR huh?
Question for you though Falco, why didn't Kerry say anything about ending up in Afghanistan? I mean, if he was really making a dig at the troops, why did he mention Iraq instead of Afghanistan?
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:41 pm"Ok, what civil liberties did the Government violate in the Padilla case?
Give citations in the Allwood format.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 23, 2007 @ 3:30 pm"
Oooh.... Oooh.... Pick me (with hand raised)!!!!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:41 pmPreznit Busch, stop impersonating a christian leader please.Jesas really hates you, and you know it.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:42 pmFor the record, it doesn't matter how difficult you think your questions are, as long as you answer my questions in a civil manner, I will return the same courtesy. Three people have requested to be placed on the "Ignore List" as well, and given my civil manner, I have complied with said requests.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:42 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — March 23, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
Good one TMM. Jakeoff stepped on his "pr#ck" again and with that 1-1/2 incher that's not easy.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:43 pmI think you were right yesterday when you suggested I must be on the list. I didn't see the original posts about the list so I didn't really know what it wasn. But just about everybody is on the list now except "errol" who is probably Jakeoff talking to himself.
If you're a real poster Errol I'm sorry but I suspect you're just another figment of Jake's limited imagination.
Talk to me when someone is trying to actually shut you up about your asinine theories on global warming, instead of just calling you stupid for advocating silly, fact-challenged positions.
Comment by Jake
Jake, my point is that the effort to stifle dissent/debate is much greater on the global warming issue than on the war. And that the left is more prone to stifling debate than the right.
Next time I'll just say it straight instead of trying to be cute.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmAnd when the troops run out of food and ammo, maybe we can raid Cheney's trust fund. Bastards!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmI give the Republicans half a Friedman to save their party. I don't think they can do it. I think they are heading for super-minority status.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:45 pmThe Chimperor is going down
I like that, think I’m gonna have to start using it.
Comment by CONservative — March 23, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
You mean other than with Jeff Gannon this time of course.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:45 pmHey, Cynicon. Do you believe that whole “As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down,†stuff? How’s it feel to know you’re endorsing affirmative action for Iraqis?
Comment by Barfly
That's pretty funny, Barfly!
I wonder when the midnight basketball league starts? ;-)
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:48 pmYikes:
That was not me posting as “Jake†at 3:26 pm. I’ve never stated I’m a lawyer. Let me know if you want to be on the “Ignore List†nonetheless.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Oh sorry about that Jake. Damn, there I go being civil! It's hard to tell the "real" Jake as the impostor has you down pretty well to a tee.
It's ok Jake, I don't really care about your list. You have my permission to ignore me or not unless you feel you don't need my permission, in which case you may or may not have read this. Please continue to be delusional, it will all be sorted out in the end.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:48 pmJust found out that Tony Snow has an abnormal growth in his abdomen which needs to be removed.
I'll pray for the wellness and speedy recovery of Mr. Snow. I'll also be praying for his family.
Notice how I didn't inject any partisan issue, or derail with asinine posts.
Jakemeoff, Roger_Dodger, firemyhead, I Heart Terrorists, phil a. show,
this is called compassion for a fellow human being.
Try it sometime...
Okay, ya'll can get back on thread!!!
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:50 pm"And that the left is more prone to stifling debate than the right."
And that my friends, earns a score of 100 on the Inhofe scale.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:50 pmAlthough the chymp doesn't listen to the American people, Speaker Pelosi was clearly elected to do just this.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:51 pmThe people voted in a Democratic majority to the House. The Senate would not have the votes (at present) to override, but, and this but is as big as Rove's... How many Repukelickin Senators are up for re-election in 08?
How many would like to keep their jobs?
The people's will is going to get done.
My thoughts are with the thousands that will die and be maimed between now and the time we force the chymp's paw on ending this war.
Yippy ki yi ya mother flucker.
Suck my big toe.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:52 pmI thought there was a law barring politicians from using active duty military as stage props.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pmAre you talking about the uneducated troops? Because even if it was a slip, it is the truth. Anybody that joins the military WITH and education is made a commissioned officer. If you DO NOT have an education, you are made an enlisted soldier (aka a troop). You would know this if you had any military experience, you chicken sh!t chicken hawk.
Comment by Jakey Flakey
Duh flakey I dunno knewd dat. Thanx for my lesson today.
Heh
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pmI certainly can’t explain something I am not — I did my tour of duty — anymore than I can explain when I stopped beating my wife because I have never, in fact, beat her.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
"Lying Liars, and the Lies they Tell" an autobiography by Jake. You came up with the I'm 75 and served because people were asking you about serving. Then they started calling you old now you're not 75. And you never would tell anybody which war you served in did you.
Nobody should believe anything you say, least of all about military service.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:56 pm#4 Katy check out that chick behind him giving him the evil eye…
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pmIs thinkin ~ Why does this bastard want me dead????
I would like that very much. Please email me at jake@msn.com, and we can figure out the details. Where are you located? I have a lot of frequent flyer miles so I can come meet you if that is more convenient.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:59 pm#197 Actually, there were German POW camps in Texas (why am I not surprised).
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:00 pmHa, ha, ha, ha . . .
Comment by Barfly — March 23, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
And they don't want to help the people of New Orleans but have no trouble spending $300 billion on Iraq. Very conservative that spending.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:02 pm75 is a convenient number for Jake. Just like his "independent"
status. But this is just too much...
For the record, it doesn’t matter how difficult you think your questions are, as long as you answer my questions in a civil manner, I will return the same courtesy. Three people have requested to be placed on the “Ignore List†as well, and given my civil manner, I have complied with said requests.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
Where do you think you are? You should thank your lucky numbers
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:03 pmfor the tubes of the internets, man. I can't imagine any of this going
over too well in person - with your bad knees and all.
Reality Check, Part 3-
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:04 pmIt’s going to be seriously interesting to see the President veto the bill that provides funding for the troops and avails funds for veterans’ health, too. How is the Half-Wit-In-Chief going to explain THAT one to the American people?
Lord, this is getting riduculous with all the name jacking.
The "real" Jake, I have had nothing to do with it, but I am truly sorry for all these buttheads trying to be cute at your expense. Maybe they will get tired of it soon enough and the true discussions can commence.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 pmI have to laugh. Look at Bushies face. He looks like he is going to have a temple tantrum. It is so funny.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 pm“And that the left is more prone to stifling debate than the right.â€
And that my friends, earns a score of 100 on the Inhofe scale.
Comment by Yikes
Well, Yikes, there have been death threats sent to scientists who dare to speak out against global warming. I haven't seen anything close to that against anti-war activists.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:07 pmNo... no... I'M a jerk! No, I mean I'm JAKE! Really, I am! Why don't you believe me? Rotten libs, they stink. See...?
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:09 pmLord, this is getting riduculous with all the name jacking.
The “real†Jake, I have had nothing to do with it, but I am truly sorry for all these buttheads trying to be cute at your expense. Maybe they will get tired of it soon enough and the true discussions can commence.
Comment by Proud Dem
Pretty easy to tell the real ones from the fakes, PD. Just click "Tools" and the select "Coherence Check"
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:11 pmFlaco:
Cajones = drawers (furniture)! It's cojones, guëy, and they seldom, if ever, descend in reichwing chickenhawks!!!
dulce est desipere in loco
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:12 pmMore military personnel as backdrops. Looking more like Saddam every day.
Comment by Tuber — March 23, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
Heh. Wouldn't surprise me if next week Bush was holding an Uzi in his hands.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:13 pm"I haven’t seen anything close to that against anti-war activists."
Then you haven't been to an anti-war protest.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:14 pmPretty easy to tell the real ones from the fakes, PD. Just click “Tools†and the select “Coherence Checkâ€
Comment by Cynicon Implant — March 23, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Your right, the fakes score much higher on "Coherence".
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:15 pm"Well, Yikes, there have been death threats sent to scientists who dare to speak out against global warming. I haven’t seen anything close to that against anti-war activists."
I'm sorry, but with such an outstanding claim, you'll have a hard time persuading anyone without some outstanding evidence to support that, especially when there's a lot more support for conservatives being anti-intellectual and having a history of fudging numbers.
And please explain why the "deniers" just happen to be closely tied to the energy industry. Also, are you trying to scientists are threatened for denying global warming or denying that man is a factor?
Because I seriously doubt anyone is threatening the thermometers that have shown a gradual increase in overall temperatures across the world.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:15 pmI'm with Cynicon - there is no such thing as Global Warming -we're getting coldedr all the tiem not the other way around. If anything, we'll have an ice age soon. Gore's just trying to get the hippy vote when he runs for president.
And Flaco's got a point - if you libs supported the troops you would give them more money for Iraq and we would beat these terrorists at home so we don't have them running around here. Instead, we have gays at home trying to burn flags and you dems are trying to let the terrorists over too.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou're welcome.
Do you got some bran? I feel irregular.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:20 pmYes Cynicon. You're exactly right. That is why you apologized to the real Jake for your asinine 3 year old talking points.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:24 pmI am a very good lawyer, as a matter of fact. And that is why I know
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Her boss said she was covert.
Where'd you go to law school then?
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:24 pmNancy Pelosi has decided to keep funding George Bush’s war, and now the war belongs to the Democrats as well as the Republicans...
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:24 pmBush has never said “We are staying in Iraq forever†— no wonder you are so upset — he said “As soon as they are ready to stand up, we will stand down.â€
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Bush has said a lot of things regarding our troops in Iraq.
For example, he said if the new Iraqi government asked us to leave, we'd leave.
They asked.
Yet we are still there.
It's here on TP if you know how to use the Search feature.
He's also said we'd be in Iraq as long as he was the President and he'd leave the mess for the next president to deal with. So, what if the Iraqis "stand up" before Bush leaves office? Do we stay, or do we go?
He and his supporters also told us on many, many occasions that we'd "stay the course" in Iraq, and then we heard denials from Ken Mehlman and Tony Snow that the administration has never used the words "stay the course."
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:25 pmWhy are the moonbats NOT constantly hammering the Democratic majority in Congress to de-fund the war?
Comment by Flaco — March 23, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Why are trolls always trying to tell TPers what to do?
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:26 pmJust click “Tools†and the select “Coherence Checkâ€
And if it reads "totally incoherent" it's the real Jakers.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:27 pmJamie Kinstle Wapakoneta OH
LOLOLOLOLOL
Pretty soon those sonsabitches in the middle east are gonna swim accross the ocean and start running around here and making us speak 'raqi and read'n the kor'n. /Neocon impersonation off
Jamie your way too frightened. Have a cup of tea and settle down.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:27 pmCynicon, even I have to admit, that was just about the stupidest post I’ve ever read. Talk to me when someone is trying to actually shut you up about your asinine theories on global warming, instead of just calling you stupid for advocating silly, fact-challenged positions.
Comment by Jake — March 23, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Here the bone that Jake and Roger_Roger throw us occasionally when they're trying to get on our good side again.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:29 pmI recognize it because my 12 year old does the same thing when she wants something.
Same maturity level.
Pretty easy to tell the real ones from the fakes, PD. Just click “Tools†and the select “Coherence Checkâ€
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Hey you're right. The one with the least coherence was the real Jake. Thanks.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:30 pmLet him veto the bill...then we can tag the SOB as obstructionist
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 pm"Jamie your way too frightened. Have a cup of tea and settle down.
Comment by Yikes — March 23, 2007 @ 4:27 pm"
She can't, that's how the Repubs are brought up..... To be affraid, to be very affraid........
They don't know any other way. They can only follow what they are told, as they don't have the mental capacity to actually think for themselves.....
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:32 pmComment by Laughable Butane Bob — March 23, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Hey don't confuse the bible thumpers around here. They think the pilgrims started in Israel. If they find out Jesus was brown they'll go all balistic on us.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:33 pmBush is using the soldiers to play politics. The bill has'nt past the Senate and he is putting on a show trial for it already.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:34 pmWhy are trolls always trying to tell TPers what to do?
Comment by shane
Because you obvously need help.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:37 pmHey, Jakes!
Just FYI:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100828/
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:37 pmShane, one thing is to destroy Mitsubishi weapon factory and another one the famous Luftwaffe and Volkswagen. This is regardless of the business Nazis had with the US elite.
Comment by Juan C — March 23, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Of course in Louisiana they showed us that they're not as adverse to sticking it to white people as they used to be. As long as they're old or poor they're just not White Enough for neocon respect.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:37 pmThe look on the Emperor's face is priceless. He looks like a little child who's just cr*pped his pants. Either that or he's about to throw a temper tantrum in 5... 4... 3...
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmComment by Kiki — March 23, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Thanks for the info Kiki - all the really cool stuff happens in Texas!
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:44 pmYes, offing Bush/Cheney thru other than impeachment is unseemly, but what can you say about destroying a million or so Iraqis, making about 2 million of them homeless, & wounding 30-60,000 troops? and all of it based on lies.. It's time to CUT the military spending of these chicken-hawk liars & stop the occupation!
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by alp3 — March 23, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Jake is sipping his tea with his pinky finger raised. He's just oh so civilized.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:46 pmWell, Yikes, there have been death threats sent to scientists who dare to speak out against global warming. I haven’t seen anything close to that against anti-war activists.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — March 23, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
In your dreams Cyclops. The other option is on Fox NoNews.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:48 pm242, Jamie- that is serioulsy the dumbest post I've seen in a long time. Maybe you could squeeze a few more of the right wing textbook talking points. Do you have a brain? If so, try thinking for yourself instead of regurgitating the garbage you hear on Faux news.
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:02 pmWell, Yikes, there have been death threats sent to scientists who dare to speak out against global warming. I haven’t seen anything close to that against anti-war activists.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — March 23, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
In your dreams Cyclops. The other option is on Fox NoNews.
Comment by shane
Your comment failed the "coherence check" shane
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:03 pmhey, Jaime & Cyclops: if u dont believe in global warming, check out the rapid melting at both poles, then ignore it: it wont go away, what will are the cities on both coasts & the worldwide economies, making "war on terror" a kindergarten.
Flaco, ur right the Dems who voted for the war funding now make it a Dem/Rep supported war.. what they should have done is vote to stop the funding period. They feel this was their "best shot"; but while Bush lies, many more die. We miss true leaders like Jim Weaver & Wayne Morse D-OR who stood up to the war mongers. Dont be a coward, join us: no more death or blood for oil.
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:07 pmbtw, i bet ur not thin flaco; ur FAT, LOLOL
"Jake, my point is that the effort to stifle dissent/debate is much greater on the global warming issue than on the war. And that the left is more prone to stifling debate than the right.
Next time I’ll just say it straight instead of trying to be cute.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — March 23, 2007 @ 3:44 pm"
Is that right? That's interesting, because I seem to remember conservatives advocating that people should intentionally run over war protesters with their cars and, in fact, this actually happened in several cases.
Show me ONE (just one) instance of this happening to a global warming sceptic. Spend the rest of the afternoon researching it if you like, but you won't find anything, because the truly violent extremists in America are the Malkin FREEPer crowd, you know, your comrades.
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:08 pmIs there a "yes or no" check-box on the bill where Bush can check to veto, because if he has to spell it, well then...
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:13 pmNot Maple Leaf ~!
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:34 pmYeah, know what you mean. Mix up the vowels at all and you just get to VOTE.
#242 Jamie , pretty Jamie...
we would beat these terrorists at home so we don’t have them running around here
We'd love to have your home address, so we could ship you a couple of dozen hard core Sunni insurgents.
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:37 pmThen you could beat them at YOUR home.
Thanks for asking. I haven't made up my mind yet. There are pros and cons on both sides of the equation.
March 23rd, 2007 at 5:51 pmWhy does Bush want to block funding for our troops?
I think it'd be a dirty shame if Bush withheld funding like that.
I thought Bush supported the troops.
March 23rd, 2007 at 6:00 pmThanks for asking. I haven’t made up my mind yet. There are pros and cons on both sides of the equation.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 23, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
I envy your position and hope you will be able to look back at your decision in the future and be happy with the direction you choose. Good luck.
March 23rd, 2007 at 6:05 pmNothing will change until enough people want it to change. And not until they want it enough. And not until enough of them make it plain enough.
Will any Americans ever again give peace a chance?
March 23rd, 2007 at 6:09 pmWhy doesn't "The Decider" want our troops to have adequate health care, equipment and training?
Oh, I remember now, because he despised them so much that he sent them to die in that hell hole in the first place!
March 23rd, 2007 at 6:24 pmThe Iraqis will never fit the Bush administration's definition of "standing up" because they will not side with a foreign occupying army and a puppet government. Would you if you were in their shoes?
Many Iraqis are joining the army and police because income is needed when there is about 60% unemployment, you get weapons, you get a uniform (to assist you in your second job on the death squad), and you get intel on what the foreign occupying army is doing.
March 23rd, 2007 at 6:27 pmGreat post's, well, most of them....I got home from a free lunch...Wahooo. Turned on the TV and bull shit was spouting again...Fell out laughing so hard almost lost my great lunch.....Photo opp for the week and bull shit say's he not going to allow the democrat's to turn this into a political theater....LOL..Bad boy..Looked just like the spoiled child he has alway's been, never having to give any accounting before he throw's a fit...It's his way or the high way .... He want's what he want's now and he scream's it's every one else's fault...Hey wacko bush, you started this dreadful mess, gave away pallet's of money that was borrowed from china and now the public want's to know what the hell you did with it and how your going to spend the next palett full..
Not only that the old stupid phrase of " we will stand down when they stand up' is no longer any good.....Any sane parent or adult know's that kind of comment used on people you are enabeling will never work...Time lines and accountability, dum bass....It's time for you to veto and I hope you do then the house and senate can drag their feet till you run out of money and the troop's are brought home ..End of war.
.BTW I read somewhere the money to bring all the troop's home was allocated some time ago, providing this bunch in the administration hasent already shuffled it some where else.....Blessings
March 23rd, 2007 at 7:45 pmi like the way rachel maddow laid it out...
the dems voted for the money he asked for, "for the troops"...
and then some, with stipulations...
but the only way the troops don't get the money
he wants them to have, is if he vetos this bill...
i don't do rachel's rant one iota of justice, but that's the gist of it...
March 23rd, 2007 at 8:35 pmPresident Bush has been in the low thirties in approval rating for forever now. Those numbers are unprecedented for this length of time. People do not like him! They/we think he's a terrible president.
Yes, the right-wing might have done a masterful job of tricking the press into thinking they represent the middle of the country, but you know who's not buying it? The country. Well, except for the apologists, enablers, suck-ups and Kool-Aid swillers who come on here to defend this fascist to the death.
March 23rd, 2007 at 8:37 pmMr Decider, you are either with us or against us. We won in 2006 and your party lost big time!
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:01 pmMurtha Speaks
By: John Amato @ 1:54 PM - PDT
[video]
UPDATE (SilentPatriot): Jack Murtha took to the floor today and delivered one of the most impassioned speeches I've seen in a long long time. He ran through the important provisions in the bill and warned Republicans that a vote against it is a vote against desperately needed care for the troops. He ended on a personal story about his grandmother that almost brought him to tears.
Jack Murtha = Leadership. The right-wing character smears and swiftboating are as mean-spirited as they are disgraceful. The passion in his voice shows how much he truly cares about the troops. Unlike those that just them as pawns and exploit them for political purposes.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/23/murtha-speaks/
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:02 pm.
Bush Presser: Updated with Video
By: John Amato @ 11:32 AM - PDT
He says the troops need to be funded and will veto the Bill. The troops will be funded with this Bill…Your comments?
UPDATE: David Sirota: The Progressive Caucus: Profiles in courage & effectiveness
A win is a win and although the bill is far from perfect. I think it's a step in the right direction…Murtha, Pelosi, Muphy discuss…
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/23/bush-presser/
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:07 pm.
70% of the country has no confidence in King George and his administration. How many laws has this clown broken by now? It was approaching 750 in November. Then the people spoke and he just flipped us the bird and did as he pleased. I say impeach the lying bastard and move on. His head should be displayed on a pike outside his Crawford ranch. He works for us, not the other way around.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:23 pmby the way...
The Houses Passes Iraq Spending Bill
By: SilentPatriot @ 10:09 AM - PDT
…by the skin of their teeth: 218-212. 14 Democratic defectors and 2 Republican defectors.
The bill provides $124 bil for Iraq & Afghanistan and contains a withdrawal timeline of Fall 2008 the latest. The Gavel has the details:
U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Health and Iraq Accountability Act. This bill will support our troops and veterans, hold the Bush Administration and Iraqi government accountable and bring our soldiers home by August 2008 or sooner.
- Expand funding for veterans’ health care and hospitals
- Iraqi government must meet Bush benchmarks for reform
- Strategic redeployment of U.S. combat troops by 2008
- Refocus military efforts on Afghanistan and fighting terrorism
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/23/the-houses-passes-iraq-spending-bill/
roll call: http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2007&rollnumber=186
i thought the lee-waters-woolsey team decided to back this...
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:41 pm...
Honestly, I cont' figure out what Bush is so mad about.
It must be all an act.
Look, the Democratic Congress just voted to FUND his stupid surge. In years ahead when it looks like the US has to stay longer Congress will be asked to extend again.......and will likely comply if the current panty-waists are there (and they will be).
As a firm ANTI Iraq war advocate, I also can't figure out what the Democrats are so proud of. You have voted to continue this lunatic war for almost two more years!!!!!
The worst thing that could happen, from Bush's perspective (and the best thing to end this damned war) is that this will never pass in the Senate and no funding will be available to continue the conflict.
Without money this BS has to end!
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:15 pmCHIMPya, I'D LIKE TO SEE YA TRY TO VETO The Articles of Impeachment THAT WILL BE COMING YA WAY SOON----WHAT A SIGHT TO SEE THAT CRYBABY KICKING AND SCREAMING AS HE IS BEING DRAGGED OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND TO The Hague FOR HIS WAR CRIMES TRIAL ALONG WITH FRANKENCheney, Rove, Rice, Dumbsfailed, WolfFARTWhizz, et cetera AD NAUSEUM!!!!!
March 24th, 2007 at 12:21 ampolitical theatre says the angry little man in front of his props.
March 24th, 2007 at 10:55 pmLOL -- so now impeachment is "back on the table" if Bush has to veto this bill (regardless of the many legitimate reasons to do so)?! What's next, really? A "Presidential" pardon, issued by Congress, for Valerie Plame? Does the phrase "Separation of Powers" ring an bells? For all you atheists, think "Separation of Church and State" if you are having a tough time getting your hands around the concept.
March 25th, 2007 at 9:21 amJake, get back up from the basement, Mom says dinner's ready.
March 25th, 2007 at 11:59 amMy mother died in 1989.
March 25th, 2007 at 1:21 pmComment by El Tonno #289
Comment by Jake #290
...should make for an interesting meal then...
March 25th, 2007 at 4:48 pmThe more stubborn Bush gets with stuff like this, the more likely it is that other GOP members will join Hagel's call for impeachment.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:03 pm