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	<title>Comments on: Obey Hits Back Against Washington Post&#8217;s Smearing of House Iraq Bill</title>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there goes any chance the Dems will ever give journalist a shield law, since it would be nothing more than a shield to lie, mislead and distort facts as far as the Washington Post Editoral staff is concerned.

The worse offense by whomever dictates the editorial BS on the WP was that obviously BIG LIE about Valerie Plame. It was that particluar editoral that most obviously demonstrated that WP&#039;s editoral staff have no problem just making shit up and practice outright partisanship and this administration ass-kissing is the rule of day. 

The WP marginlized Dana Milbank after he had the courage to tell readers that Bush and Ari Fleischer were embroidering about those aluminum tubes being used for nuclear weapons production.

Its wonder that Dana Priest is still working there but Dana can no lonber declare there be no good reason not to send Judith Miller to jail when WP editorals are so obiously partisan and hold such little disregard for facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there goes any chance the Dems will ever give journalist a shield law, since it would be nothing more than a shield to lie, mislead and distort facts as far as the Washington Post Editoral staff is concerned.</p>
<p>The worse offense by whomever dictates the editorial BS on the WP was that obviously BIG LIE about Valerie Plame. It was that particluar editoral that most obviously demonstrated that WP&#8217;s editoral staff have no problem just making shit up and practice outright partisanship and this administration ass-kissing is the rule of day. </p>
<p>The WP marginlized Dana Milbank after he had the courage to tell readers that Bush and Ari Fleischer were embroidering about those aluminum tubes being used for nuclear weapons production.</p>
<p>Its wonder that Dana Priest is still working there but Dana can no lonber declare there be no good reason not to send Judith Miller to jail when WP editorals are so obiously partisan and hold such little disregard for facts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3751770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: c4logic</title>
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		<dc:creator>c4logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth shall set you free.

We need a truth and reconciliation commission in the US or we will never heal as a nation. We are a civil war waiting to happen--largely because of the mendacity that some rich and powerful players have used to obtain consent, surreptiously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth shall set you free.</p>
<p>We need a truth and reconciliation commission in the US or we will never heal as a nation. We are a civil war waiting to happen&#8211;largely because of the mendacity that some rich and powerful players have used to obtain consent, surreptiously.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3751324', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; Washington Post Misleads, Contradicts Own Reporting, To Attack Pelosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; Washington Post Misleads, Contradicts Own Reporting, To Attack Pelosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hiatt and the Post editorial page get it wrong on Pelosi just like they got it wrong on the recent Iraq legislation, the U.S. Attorney scandal, the CIA leak investigation, the decision to invade Iraq, and on and on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hiatt and the Post editorial page get it wrong on Pelosi just like they got it wrong on the recent Iraq legislation, the U.S. Attorney scandal, the CIA leak investigation, the decision to invade Iraq, and on and on [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3421589', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: taxelevine</title>
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		<dc:creator>taxelevine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul

Point well taken.  So, when you think &quot;compromise&quot; .. what do YOU think that compromise will look like?  Will there be ANY enforceable constraints on our course in the Middle East while Bush is President?  Do you think that eventually, a bill will pass giving him all the money he wants, and have some &quot;compromise&quot; of non-binding, &quot;sense-of-the-Congress&quot; statements that the war should end as soon as possible ... that would not be vetoed?  

I&#039;m confused a bit by your position .. you seem to be saying both things .. that the Congress won&#039;t be able to do anything .. and that the President is not in charge.  I agree that compromise is the traditional way of addressing these types of issues ... it&#039;s just that we have so little contemporary evidence of it it&#039;s hard to know what it would look like in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul</p>
<p>Point well taken.  So, when you think &#8220;compromise&#8221; .. what do YOU think that compromise will look like?  Will there be ANY enforceable constraints on our course in the Middle East while Bush is President?  Do you think that eventually, a bill will pass giving him all the money he wants, and have some &#8220;compromise&#8221; of non-binding, &#8220;sense-of-the-Congress&#8221; statements that the war should end as soon as possible &#8230; that would not be vetoed?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused a bit by your position .. you seem to be saying both things .. that the Congress won&#8217;t be able to do anything .. and that the President is not in charge.  I agree that compromise is the traditional way of addressing these types of issues &#8230; it&#8217;s just that we have so little contemporary evidence of it it&#8217;s hard to know what it would look like in this case.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2536683', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taxelevine, you are making stuff up when you say &quot;Democratic Congress.&quot; We do have the leadership -- we do NOT control the Senate itself, and our control over the House is limited as well. So your &#039;cave&#039; is just you making yourself feel better. 

The all-powerful Wizard of Oz is NOT in charge. We have to work through compromise -- it&#039;s the only available course of action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taxelevine, you are making stuff up when you say &#8220;Democratic Congress.&#8221; We do have the leadership &#8212; we do NOT control the Senate itself, and our control over the House is limited as well. So your &#8216;cave&#8217; is just you making yourself feel better. </p>
<p>The all-powerful Wizard of Oz is NOT in charge. We have to work through compromise &#8212; it&#8217;s the only available course of action.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2536374', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: taxelevine</title>
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		<dc:creator>taxelevine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So .. if a war-funding bill is reported out of conference and ends up on the President&#039;s desk with &quot;unacceptable&quot; provisions such as accountability, timetables and/or benchmarks, he says he will veto it.  Then what?
Will the Democratic Congress just cave, and pass a bill with &quot;the President can do anything he wants about the war(s)&quot; in it?  Or will they say &quot;OK .. no war bill&quot;?  And then what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So .. if a war-funding bill is reported out of conference and ends up on the President&#8217;s desk with &#8220;unacceptable&#8221; provisions such as accountability, timetables and/or benchmarks, he says he will veto it.  Then what?<br />
Will the Democratic Congress just cave, and pass a bill with &#8220;the President can do anything he wants about the war(s)&#8221; in it?  Or will they say &#8220;OK .. no war bill&#8221;?  And then what?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2535110', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah, itâ€™s a real pain in the ass that the only way legislators can be prodded into doing whatâ€™s best for the country is to bribe them with hogmeat for their constituents.&quot; --RUCerious

And what part of Arkansas do YOU live in?

â€¢ $1.3 billion for New Orleans levee repairs is NOT pork -- it&#039;s barely a downpayment.

Gerald, that &#039;BD&#039; after their name means Blue Dog. We gained a lot of seats last November and the majority, but not all the seats will vote with the rest of the caucus very reliably. The number of Blue Dogs that DID vote with Pelosi  was crucial, and most of why the bill had to be watered down for passage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrats (list of current members)

Out of 44 Blue Dogs, 8 (or 7) did not vote with the caucus. The cost of that ... was in part peanuts, and spinach, and milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, itâ€™s a real pain in the ass that the only way legislators can be prodded into doing whatâ€™s best for the country is to bribe them with hogmeat for their constituents.&#8221; &#8211;RUCerious</p>
<p>And what part of Arkansas do YOU live in?</p>
<p>â€¢ $1.3 billion for New Orleans levee repairs is NOT pork &#8212; it&#8217;s barely a downpayment.</p>
<p>Gerald, that &#8216;BD&#8217; after their name means Blue Dog. We gained a lot of seats last November and the majority, but not all the seats will vote with the rest of the caucus very reliably. The number of Blue Dogs that DID vote with Pelosi  was crucial, and most of why the bill had to be watered down for passage.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrats" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrats</a> (list of current members)</p>
<p>Out of 44 Blue Dogs, 8 (or 7) did not vote with the caucus. The cost of that &#8230; was in part peanuts, and spinach, and milk.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2524887', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Funamoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Funamoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Obey, THANK YOU FOR ATTACKING The Washington Post(tm) WHICH HAS BECOME A DEN OF INIQUITY AND ONE OF Bushland Uber Allies&#039; FAITHFUL LAPDOGS----UNBIASED NEWS REPORTING MY LEFT NUT!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Obey, THANK YOU FOR ATTACKING The Washington Post(tm) WHICH HAS BECOME A DEN OF INIQUITY AND ONE OF Bushland Uber Allies&#8217; FAITHFUL LAPDOGS&#8212;-UNBIASED NEWS REPORTING MY LEFT NUT!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2522741', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Gibson Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Gibson Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Barrow (D-GA) BD
L. Davis (D-TN) BD
Taylor (D-MS) BD
J. Lewis (D-GA)
Marshall (D-GA) BD
Boren (D-OK) BD BD
Matheson (D-UT) BD
Michaud (D-ME) BD&lt;/em&gt;

Anybody live in these states? Did you contact these people? I contacted my representative Joe Donnelly (D) and Senator Dick Lugar (R). These people must be over come with contacts. Not like the past 6 years. This is the end game. Contact your republican and democrat representatives. Call them at their state or D.C. office... or both... write them hand written letters (which they pay more attention to), email them... They need a backbone... that comes from us urging them to do our bidding. We cant afford to buy them off like a lobbiest would, but we are the people and that still stands for something.

If we dont do this for real this time Roger_Roger will be right and not enough people will join in to force the presidents hand.

If Nixon went down ... well Bush is no Nixon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Barrow (D-GA) BD<br />
L. Davis (D-TN) BD<br />
Taylor (D-MS) BD<br />
J. Lewis (D-GA)<br />
Marshall (D-GA) BD<br />
Boren (D-OK) BD BD<br />
Matheson (D-UT) BD<br />
Michaud (D-ME) BD</em></p>
<p>Anybody live in these states? Did you contact these people? I contacted my representative Joe Donnelly (D) and Senator Dick Lugar (R). These people must be over come with contacts. Not like the past 6 years. This is the end game. Contact your republican and democrat representatives. Call them at their state or D.C. office&#8230; or both&#8230; write them hand written letters (which they pay more attention to), email them&#8230; They need a backbone&#8230; that comes from us urging them to do our bidding. We cant afford to buy them off like a lobbiest would, but we are the people and that still stands for something.</p>
<p>If we dont do this for real this time Roger_Roger will be right and not enough people will join in to force the presidents hand.</p>
<p>If Nixon went down &#8230; well Bush is no Nixon&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2518128', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s a real pain in the ass that the only way legislators can be prodded into doing what&#039;s best for the country is to bribe them with hogmeat for their constituents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a real pain in the ass that the only way legislators can be prodded into doing what&#8217;s best for the country is to bribe them with hogmeat for their constituents.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2517656', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;$25 million to spinach farmers in California

$75 million for peanut storage in Georgia

$15 million to protect Louisiana rice fields from saltwater

$120 million for shrimp and menhaden fishermen

$250 million for milk subsidies

$500 million for wildfire suppression

$1.3 billion to build levees in New Orleans

â€œAltogether the House Democratic leadership has come up with more than $20 billion in new spending, much of it wasteful subsidies to agriculture or pork barrel projects aimed at individual members of Congress.â€ -- Roger

Please point to the pork in that list. WHAT --specifically-- is not a good use of money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;$25 million to spinach farmers in California</p>
<p>$75 million for peanut storage in Georgia</p>
<p>$15 million to protect Louisiana rice fields from saltwater</p>
<p>$120 million for shrimp and menhaden fishermen</p>
<p>$250 million for milk subsidies</p>
<p>$500 million for wildfire suppression</p>
<p>$1.3 billion to build levees in New Orleans</p>
<p>â€œAltogether the House Democratic leadership has come up with more than $20 billion in new spending, much of it wasteful subsidies to agriculture or pork barrel projects aimed at individual members of Congress.â€ &#8212; Roger</p>
<p>Please point to the pork in that list. WHAT &#8211;specifically&#8211; is not a good use of money?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2517078', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sigh Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigh Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sure as heck isnâ€™t reality TV!!!! ;)

Comment by Proud Dem 

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sure as heck isnâ€™t reality TV!!!! ;)</p>
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<p>LOL<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516992', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Proud Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I agree, but can even you, or me, or any physicist define reality?

Comment by Sigh Crow &lt;/em&gt;

It sure as heck isn&#039;t reality TV!!!! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I agree, but can even you, or me, or any physicist define reality?</p>
<p>Comment by Sigh Crow </em></p>
<p>It sure as heck isn&#8217;t reality TV!!!! ;)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sigh Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigh Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thatâ€™s what Iâ€™d like to see. The corrupt CEOâ€™s and politicians that are found guilty of fraud or whatever are paraded for all to see before they go to prison.

Comment by Yikes

Yet today we have people who will defend that because they are of the same group. 

I am a Republican and I will defend them!

I am a Democrat and I will defend them!

Truth is we are being split just like a child splits mom and pop to get his way.  Pundits do not make for a strong nation they divide and weaken it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thatâ€™s what Iâ€™d like to see. The corrupt CEOâ€™s and politicians that are found guilty of fraud or whatever are paraded for all to see before they go to prison.</p>
<p>Comment by Yikes</p>
<p>Yet today we have people who will defend that because they are of the same group. </p>
<p>I am a Republican and I will defend them!</p>
<p>I am a Democrat and I will defend them!</p>
<p>Truth is we are being split just like a child splits mom and pop to get his way.  Pundits do not make for a strong nation they divide and weaken it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516639', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also left out of this BAD LIE by disaffiliated leftists about the Iran rider was that &lt;b&gt;Pelosi promised the committee AT THE TIME that they Iran rider would become a bill to itself, which would be presented within the next few weeks.&lt;/b&gt;

It is a codicil that Bush will certainly ignore, making it all the less reasonable that AIPAC would bother to try to influence representative Obey to remove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also left out of this BAD LIE by disaffiliated leftists about the Iran rider was that <b>Pelosi promised the committee AT THE TIME that they Iran rider would become a bill to itself, which would be presented within the next few weeks.</b></p>
<p>It is a codicil that Bush will certainly ignore, making it all the less reasonable that AIPAC would bother to try to influence representative Obey to remove it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516637', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/obey-hits-back-against-washington-posts-smearing-of-house-iraq-bill/comment-page-3/#comment-2516548</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well he â€œObeyâ€-ed AIPACâ€™s directive, so did Pelooka-Pelosi and together they removed the â€œIran Provisionâ€ from the bill.&quot; --Sigh Crow

That is &lt;b&gt;the weakest LIE yet&lt;/b&gt; by disaffiliated leftists.

There is ZERO evidence that AIPAC had an impact on Obey or Pelosi. 

The ONLY evidence adduced is that there was an AIPAC meeting at the same time as the Iran rider was stripped by Obey (the bill&#039;s author).

Teh absurdity. If that&#039;s all you&#039;ve got (and it is), then you are either a liar or a fool. Please clarify which.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well he â€œObeyâ€-ed AIPACâ€™s directive, so did Pelooka-Pelosi and together they removed the â€œIran Provisionâ€ from the bill.&#8221; &#8211;Sigh Crow</p>
<p>That is <b>the weakest LIE yet</b> by disaffiliated leftists.</p>
<p>There is ZERO evidence that AIPAC had an impact on Obey or Pelosi. </p>
<p>The ONLY evidence adduced is that there was an AIPAC meeting at the same time as the Iran rider was stripped by Obey (the bill&#8217;s author).</p>
<p>Teh absurdity. If that&#8217;s all you&#8217;ve got (and it is), then you are either a liar or a fool. Please clarify which.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516548', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sigh Crow</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/obey-hits-back-against-washington-posts-smearing-of-house-iraq-bill/comment-page-3/#comment-2516501</link>
		<dc:creator>Sigh Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you ask an eye witness what happened at the scene of a crime, you are only getting his opinion of what happened. I am not an atheist, but neither am I a devout Christian. I am a realist.

Comment by Proud Dem 

I agree, but can even you, or me,  or any physicist define reality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you ask an eye witness what happened at the scene of a crime, you are only getting his opinion of what happened. I am not an atheist, but neither am I a devout Christian. I am a realist.</p>
<p>Comment by Proud Dem </p>
<p>I agree, but can even you, or me,  or any physicist define reality?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516501', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Dover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long ago and far away I grew up in Dave&#039;s district. When I was still &quot;home&quot; it was the 3rd Congressional District, and my mother was the president of the 3rd District Republic Party.  Thankfully I got out from other that line of &quot;thinking&quot;

Dave Obey speaks from the heart.  He speaks with passion. He speaks from a state of intelligence. He knows what he&#039;s saying. As a native born Badger I am so freaking proud of him.   GO DAVE. Take names, kick ass, and never EVER stop telling the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long ago and far away I grew up in Dave&#8217;s district. When I was still &#8220;home&#8221; it was the 3rd Congressional District, and my mother was the president of the 3rd District Republic Party.  Thankfully I got out from other that line of &#8220;thinking&#8221;</p>
<p>Dave Obey speaks from the heart.  He speaks with passion. He speaks from a state of intelligence. He knows what he&#8217;s saying. As a native born Badger I am so freaking proud of him.   GO DAVE. Take names, kick ass, and never EVER stop telling the truth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516456', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Yikes</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/23/obey-hits-back-against-washington-posts-smearing-of-house-iraq-bill/comment-page-3/#comment-2516455</link>
		<dc:creator>Yikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been to places in Europe where if you don&#039;t keep your yard kept clean and decent looking, you are shamed into cleaning it up.

In China recently, the government shamed prostitutes and their clients by parading them down the street announcing each ones names.

That&#039;s what I&#039;d like to see.  The corrupt CEO&#039;s and politicians that are found guilty of fraud or whatever are paraded for all to see before they go to prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to places in Europe where if you don&#8217;t keep your yard kept clean and decent looking, you are shamed into cleaning it up.</p>
<p>In China recently, the government shamed prostitutes and their clients by parading them down the street announcing each ones names.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d like to see.  The corrupt CEO&#8217;s and politicians that are found guilty of fraud or whatever are paraded for all to see before they go to prison.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516455', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Proud Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;They all contain many truths but not the full truth or history of the world as we know it. Comment by Sigh Crow&lt;/em&gt;

Sigh Crow, history books are really only one author&#039;s idea of what happened.  As well as the ancient texts found in the Dead Sea area, Egypt, etc.  The Bible is just a history book.  Even if you ask an eye witness what happened at the scene of a crime, you are only getting his opinion of what happened.  I am not an atheist, but neither am I a devout Christian.  I am a realist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>They all contain many truths but not the full truth or history of the world as we know it. Comment by Sigh Crow</em></p>
<p>Sigh Crow, history books are really only one author&#8217;s idea of what happened.  As well as the ancient texts found in the Dead Sea area, Egypt, etc.  The Bible is just a history book.  Even if you ask an eye witness what happened at the scene of a crime, you are only getting his opinion of what happened.  I am not an atheist, but neither am I a devout Christian.  I am a realist.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2516434', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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