Justice Dept. coordinated on prosecutor purge.
On March 14, 2007, principal associate deputy attorney general William Moschella insisted that he pursued changes in the Patriot Act — that allowed the President to unilaterally install U.S. attorneys — “on his own, without the knowledge or coordination of his superiors at the Justice Department or anyone at the White House.” But as TPMmuckraker notes, new e-mails “suggest that he discussed the need for proposed changes with other Justice Department officials on Nov. 11, 2005, around the time when the bill was being drawn up.”
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Bush models himself on Pakistan . ( or at least wishes he could) same problem over their with the sacking of the countries top lawyer
March 24th, 2007 at 5:23 pmThe entire Justice Department is corrupt beyond possibility of redemption.
It’s going to take decades to even start to reverse the damage this band of criminals has caused.
And if you want to see who’s responsible, he/she is no farther away than your nearest mirror. We could have stopped this in 2000, but we chose to let Chimpy and his band of thugs subvert our electoral system.
We’re to blame…all of us.
March 24th, 2007 at 5:24 pmAnd he was doing this for the White House because … he just felt like it?????
March 24th, 2007 at 5:25 pmWhat an steamin’ crock of shite.
im guessing norah o’donnell wont ruin her “beautiful mind” over this….
March 24th, 2007 at 5:40 pmSorry Bill, but your boss Gonzo and his boss George aren’t getting off that easy. The e-mails tell a far different story than that crock you’d LIKE to have everyone believe. It’s looks like you got caught with your hands AND feet in the cookie jar. Savvy, Kimosabe?
March 24th, 2007 at 5:52 pmKarl’s secret purge study?
Man things are looking terrible for them. Someone told me that Karl Rove did a careful analysis of why the Republicans lost the last election and found it was Republican scandals that were uncovered in key districts. Then he purged the prosecutors in those districts. We’ll be hearing more of this.
Anyway, Karl’s solution - to purge the prosecutors instead of cleaning up the Republicans’ acts - is exactly the problem. The Republicans need to change their attitude to avert disaster in 2008. They need to fix their party rather than just trying to cover up their flaws. They can’t or won’t do it. The problem is their leadership. It’s rotten. The best thing for the Republicans in the long run would be to impeach and remove Bush/Cheney before they can do more damage, fire our AG, and see Rove held accountable for his illegal acts. Boehner and the other rotten Republican leadership in Congress also need to come to God or hit the road.
But all indications are the Republicans will not clean up their act and actually focus on doing a good job for America. Instead, it will just be more of the same from these Republicans. They are just digging their own . . .
March 24th, 2007 at 5:52 pmAnd the smell of sizzling fat grows stronger.
March 24th, 2007 at 5:59 pmAnother official with no integrity who tried to lie his way out of trouble. Gonzo and the Bush gang have messed up this government so badly, it will take mant years to re-establish trust. There were some part of the govt. that many of us felt were above reproach, but 6+ years of Bush&Co and it’s all been destroyed.
March 24th, 2007 at 6:35 pmThe worst president in history is proving to be even worse than we ever imagined.
This is what happens when you have a spic run the Justice department.
Is this you Rodan or whatever? You know the one that said his famliy sided with the invaders against his own country?
March 24th, 2007 at 6:59 pm#8
Am I correct in thinking that #8 is a hijacking? Can we get the hijacker banned? There’s nothing funny about that stuff at all. At least remove the post.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:03 pmWoops…looks more like Gerald namejacked himself. Do you alternately post as Rodan, Gerald? That would be bad etiquette.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:07 pmThis is what I found interesting from last night’s document dump:
From: Scolinos, Tasia
To: Catherine-Martin@who.eop.gov
Paul Charlton (D. Ariz.)
Carol Lam (S.D. Cal.)
Margaret Chiara (W.D. Mich.)
Dan Bogden (D. Nev. 1
John McKay (W.D. Wash.)
David Iglesias (D.N.M.)
The one common link here is that three of them are along the southern border so you could make the connection that DOJ is unhappy with the immigration prosecution numbers in those districts.
That’s what you call “rationalization”. As in “rationalization after the fact”. As in “What kind of phony excuse can we give them for getting rid of these USAs?”
March 24th, 2007 at 7:07 pmAs I see it, Gerald meant to attribute his first post to Rodan, but forget to change his handle. An unfortunate slip up.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:08 pmRodan,
March 24th, 2007 at 7:08 pmStop oposting under my name. You don’t support Hezzbollah so your a traitor. We Leftist support ansd admire Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and Hezzbollah. They are freedom fighters!
#8, #9 — Rodan? Firehead? Flaco? Does it really matter which one of these pathetic freaks did it?
March 24th, 2007 at 7:09 pmRobG,
March 24th, 2007 at 7:10 pmRodan is name jacking me because I pointed out that as a Lebanese he must support Hezzbollah. Him and his family are traitors!
So he’s name jacking me.
Woops…looks more like Gerald namejacked himself. Do you alternately post as Rodan, Gerald? That would be bad etiquette.
Comment by RobG
Rodan/Rich Porter I told you last night I am not giving you my email so “your family members can contact me about gay sex”. I may support freedom for all by I dont swing that way.. I am sorry you are ashamed of your gay traitorous family… stop using my name.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:13 pmHim and his family are traitors!
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 24, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
Rodan writes likes this. Gerald Gibson does not.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:16 pmAfter all the key members of the Bush crime family are jailed or impeached, we are going to have to insist that any person hired or appointed by them must resign or otherwise be dismissed. These SOB’s have inflitrated every branch and level of our government. If this can’t be accomplished then we may have to disband the government and start over. It’s that bad.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:16 pm#17,
March 24th, 2007 at 7:17 pmRodan you traitor. Stop that. Come out and debate me. I’ve exposed your treasoneous attitude toward the Hezzbollah freedom fighters. All Lebanese must support Sheik Hassan Nasrallah. They are Progressives fighting for the people!
m3vega,
March 24th, 2007 at 7:19 pmI say send the Bush people over to Iran. Let them be tried and get stonned!
Him and his family are traitors!
So he’s name jacking me.
Hey if I and my family had a problems with blacks or mexicans in this country we wouldnt join in with invaders to help kill them off… that would make us Benedict Arnolds… sorry your family didnt look at it that way…
March 24th, 2007 at 7:19 pm#23 isn’t me. It’s Rodan.Ignore that Reichwing nut.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:21 pmThe one common link here is that three of them are along the southern border so you could make the connection that DOJ is unhappy with the immigration prosecution numbers in those districts.
chimpeach, I agree with you that this is a lousy rationalization.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:21 pm3 out of 6 from border states is not a statistically significant trend. Suggesting otherwise is pretty damn lame.
Yet another compelling argument in favor of user registration here at Think Progress…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Well this is the first time someone has used my name here.. I was against registration before… but it is a bit annoying…
March 24th, 2007 at 7:21 pmLet them be tried and get stonned!
Gerald Gibson? Definitely not. Pathetic cowardly namejacking freak? Definitely.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:23 pmGerald,
I think EVERYTHING before #24 with your name isn’t you. There are a bunch of these posts.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:24 pmRodan is I-Right-I.
He slipped up late last night. It’s a new low for him to name-jack.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:25 pmchimpeach, I agree with you that this is a lousy rationalization.
3 out of 6 from border states is not a statistically significant trend. Suggesting otherwise is pretty damn lame.
Comment by VerbalKint
They are such shitty liars. I remember a few years back someone on here saying they are so dumn they will hang themselves eventually….
March 24th, 2007 at 7:25 pmSound check
March 24th, 2007 at 7:27 pmIn any case, let’s get back on topic. I bet that this legislative change can be traced all the way to the White House and Karl Rove. Moschella appears to be taking a bullet for his bosses by lying about it. No wonder they’re frantically circling the wagons at the White House. These guys are losing their grip, and when they do, they are going to jail. They will fight like desperate, cornered animals.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:28 pmExpect the trolls to be doing some heavy thread disruption these next few days as the news goes from worse to worster to worseterester.
From the TPM thread:
Whoever rxbusa is, it was a good find. Thanks.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:29 pmThat’s what you call “rationalizationâ€. As in “rationalization after the factâ€. As in “What kind of phony excuse can we give them for getting rid of these USAs?†Comment by chimpeach
Was this fax sent by accident or accidentally on purpose?
March 24th, 2007 at 7:29 pm#30 They would have hung themselves a lot sooner if the MSM hadn’t worked so diligently to cover up their lies for them.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:30 pm# 31 isn’t me. It’s Rodan who’s family were traitors for not supporting Hezzbollah!
March 24th, 2007 at 7:31 pmGerald, it looks like i hit the censor’s panic button on the previous thread. Now that I see where you are coming from with respect to Al Qaeda and Hezbullah, I agree. Unfortunately, it looks like I can’t post the links that were pertinent. Perhaps I’ll try again.
As for this thread, this is more manna from heaven. Keep it coming TP and don’t let up for a minute, for this is the best way possible to force Bush into making a decision.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:32 pmstonehinge,
March 24th, 2007 at 7:35 pmThe censor is just afraid we are speaking the truth. Remeber this site is run by John Podesta who’s a Hillary hack. Al-Qaeda didn’t do 9/11 it was Israel.
There is some heavy namejacking of Gerald Gibson on the previous thread, too.
Expect the trolls to be doing some heavy thread disruption these next few days as the news goes from worse to worster to worseterester.
It looks like we are seeing it happening here today, BnF. These are dead enders in their last throes. It isn’t a pretty sight.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:40 pmRodin created The Thinker. Rodan creates The Dumb A**….no matter what name he posts under.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:44 pmGerald, it’s interesting about Rodan and the Maronites. Rodan revealed his own delusion by claiming that his people, along with the Israelites. were the first to occupy the Levant.
What he obviously didn’t know is that the Maronites first appeared in Spain as those who chose to convert from Judaism rather than face expulsion. They were called Maronites because of the peculiar etymology of the word Maron, which actually reaches all the way back to the Sanskrit where it means something along the lines of a “stool-eating pig.”
You can’t make this stuff up!!!
March 24th, 2007 at 7:46 pmThe trolls are grasping at straws. The well of talking points has run dry. Reality has reasserted itself. They have nowhere left to go, nothing left to say. So they smear other people by namejacking. They can’t make themselves look better, so they try to make others look worse. They try to make others look as bad as they are themselves, full of mindless hate and bigotry. They have painted themselves into a tiny little corner, and there is nowhere left for them to stand.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:46 pm8,11,13,14,16,20,22,24,31,36,37,38
Are this rodan guy…
it’ll be more trouble than it is worth.
Posted by: rxbusa
Date: March 24, 2007 10:17 AM
OR more trouble than you could ever imagine….
#30 They would have hung themselves a lot sooner if the MSM hadn’t worked so diligently to cover up their lies for them.
Comment by VerbalKint
Ya I could not believe it when Phil Donahue just disappeared one day… I came home from work everyday and turned it to MSNBC… I stoped watching after that… it was apparent he had been silenced because he was on to something and War was what MSNBC wanted.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:47 pmGerald, there is a deeper picture of 9-11 which goes beyond Mossad. I’m guessing from your discussion that you haven’t read Tarpley’s masterwork on the subject. If not, it is worth the time and effort to read it now. There is much more of this underway as we speak.
Synthetic Terrorism
And if Exley comes in here whining about derogating the victims of 9-11, heap scorn upon his head until he finally reads the same thing.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:01 pmThe various trolls in their various hijacked names simply reinforce the fact that the Republic Party is just about winning. They dont care about governing or about their actions. Its all about winning. The trolls here dont care for a reasoned discourse (Rush hasn’t given them the reasoned discourse talking points yet). Instead they just want to dominate the page and cause others to not want to post. I’ve begged several times that people simply ignore these horses asses. Answering them or referencing them simply fuels their deflated egos. Hell….if i was a part of the 30 percent in this country who still supports Bush, my ego would be severely bruised also.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:06 pmComment by stonehinge
Since no forensic investigation occured… we dont know who did 911. We all have just assumed it was Osama… which is a pretty good guess… but still just a guess.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:09 pm44 - new and improved link here.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:12 pmI guess instead of watching TV or playing with the dog, people who post here, are lonely, and would rather joust with a troll.
Don’t ya think trolls would just disappear if no one responded to their post.
Here in West Virgina, if ya don’t water the bush, it will dry up and die.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pmWhen the bush speaks, just laugh
When the bush speaks, just laugh
Comment by west virginia hillbilly
And then, what? He’ll see the error of his ways, apologize and send the troops home? Gee, why didn’t I think of that before?
March 24th, 2007 at 8:24 pmGerald, Tarpley goes farther than anyone else to precisely locate the responsibility for 9-11. And given that, to a great extent, we do know who did 9-11. The only significant questions which remain concern how they did 9-11.
The link I provided earlier is a free pdf of an earlier edition. It is 405 pages long and worth the time it takes to read it.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:30 pmNo R, he won’t see the error of his ways, but we will. Then maybe will will take back this country and let the light of democracy shine on the true will of the people.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:33 pm#32 VerbalKint
I bet that this legislative change can be traced all the way to the White House and Karl Rove.
Leahy was talking about some of the other people he wants to get in to testify. He didn’t say the name, but it sounded like one of them was Brett Tolman. Tolman is the one who told Michael O’Neill to slip that provision into the Patriot Act reauth. Tolman is also one of two people who was in the running for U.S. Attorney for Utah. The other one was Kyle Sampson, but Tolman got it. There may be an upside for Kyle to be forthcoming in his testimony next week. Payback’s a bitch. Of course, Rove et al will probably be checking on him frequently between now and then to make sure he knows what he’s going to say.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:35 pmHi BnF, nice to see you. Thanks for pointing to a more recent edition.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:36 pmLet him answer, fully, fairly, and candidly. Let him answer with facts, and
March 24th, 2007 at 8:37 pmnot with arguments. Let him remember he sits where Washington sat, and
so remembering, let him answer, as Washington would answer. As a
nation should not, and the Almighty will not, be evaded, so let him attempt
no evasion – no equivocation. If the president cannot or will not give the
desired answers…then I shall be fully convinced, of what I more than
suspect already, that he is deeply conscious of being in the wrong – that he
feels the blood of this war, like the blood of Abel, is crying to Heaven
against him.
CHIMPEACH the Monkey Boy CHIMPya W. Bush
March 24th, 2007 at 8:37 pmCHIMPEACH Bucket of Bolts Torticola DICKLess B(ugger) FRANKENCheney
CHIMPEACH ALL OF Bushland Uber Allies SCUM NOW!!!!!
The link I provided earlier is a free pdf of an earlier edition. It is 405 pages long and worth the time it takes to read it.
Comment by stonehinge
I am in the middle of reading it… BUT I dont care about what MUST have happened … I mean the type of evidence that would be used by a good prosecutor in a court of law… but as I said I am reading it so lets see…
March 24th, 2007 at 8:38 pm#48
I guess instead of watching TV or playing with the dog, people who post here, are lonely, and would rather joust with a troll.
Don’t ya think trolls would just disappear if no one responded to their post.
There are all kinds of trolls. Some don’t need a response to keep them going. And some post GOP talking points that shouldn’t be allowed to stand without being challenged. The benefit to everyone of responding to the talking points is the way it educates people about why they’re wrong and how to respond to someone who uses them. It’s helpful when someone has a family member or co-worker who likes to repeat the nonsense they hear on Fox Noise. If they read here how to respond to someone like that, then they’re prepared for it.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:45 pm…the act of sending an armed force among the Mexicans was unnecessary inasmuch as Mexico was in no way molesting, or menacing the US or the people thereof, and… it was unconstitutional, because the power of levying war is vested in the Congress, and not in the President.
-Abraham Lincoln
March 24th, 2007 at 8:50 pmThere are all kinds of trolls. Some don’t need a response to keep them going. And some post GOP talking points that shouldn’t be allowed to stand without being challenged. The benefit to everyone of responding to the talking points is the way it educates people about why they’re wrong and how to respond to someone who uses them. It’s helpful when someone has a family member or co-worker who likes to repeat the nonsense they hear on Fox Noise. If they read here how to respond to someone like that, then they’re prepared for it.
Comment by chimpeach
Exactly.
Not to mention people that read this stuff but dont actually post.
March 24th, 2007 at 8:51 pmAllow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose – and you allow him to make war at pleasure….Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars….
Abraham Lincoln
March 24th, 2007 at 8:53 pmYes chimpeach you have changed my mind. Don’t let them get away with bull$hit talking points. Hoiwever I’ve never seemed to be able to change the mind of a 30% er. Does talking to them make a difference?
March 24th, 2007 at 8:56 pm…by fixing the public gaze upon the exceeding brightness of military
glory – that attractive rainbow, that rises in showers of blood – that
serpent’s eye, that charms to destroy – he [Polk] plunged into it, and has swept, on and on, till, disappointed in his calculation of the ease with which Mexico might be subdued, he now finds himself, he knows not where.
-Abraham Lincoln
March 24th, 2007 at 8:58 pmI want to know when Leahy is going to let loose with those subpoenas.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:00 pmGerald, that is great then. I admire your open-mindedness.
You are right that we lack detailed forensics and that is the main reason we don’t know exactly how it was done. The truth of the matter is that 4th generation nukes were clearly involved, but there is so much disinformation surrounding existing capabilities with respect to such technologies, we cannot even begin to discuss this here…it would simply generate ridicule.
When gigantic steel beams ablate to dust right before your very eyes, you gotta lotta splainin’ to do, even if you do have degrees in physics, chemistry and engineering.
(Sorry, but I just couldn’t resist, it’s just so apropos :=)
March 24th, 2007 at 9:00 pmThe scariest thing about the corelations between the Polk lieing America into the Mexican war and Bush lieing America into the Iraq war….
Just a few years later America was fighting a civil war…
How crazy are the people on the right really today?
March 24th, 2007 at 9:01 pmTASIA SCOLINOS-UPI:THE GONZOGATE MEETING
March 24th, 2007 at 9:03 pmFor , Polk finds himself in glory with a senses of righteousness and doing god’s will.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:05 pmHeaven help us!
Comment by stonehinge
The buildings were demolitioned. To accept otherwise is to be blind to reality to the point of accepting that the world is flat…. but by whom is the question I have… whom?
March 24th, 2007 at 9:07 pmGod appoints the wisest, most sacred to discern care for all of Gods children. that include truth, fairness, all the services so desperately
needed (even though you dog gone can’t get them).
and god appointed those to anti- corruption to weed out the evil dooers
lately though (like the past 100 years) the system has been filled with a cesspool of maggots, leeches, ticks, and other parasites, even friggin one of them a bunch of hoodlums,
ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYONE PUKE
March 24th, 2007 at 9:07 pm#57 Well put, chimpeach. When freaks like Flaco, Firehead, and Rodan post, there isn’t much to respond to, but when trolls like Jake keep laying down the same talking points over and over, it is important to beat back the lies every time. I am sure that there are many casual visitors who read a few posts, then leave. If they only see the talking points and not the challenges to the talking points, they might walk away believing some of it, and spreading it elsewhere.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:08 pmwest virginia hillbilly,
We really have no choice but to denounce the trolls. The things they say here are deliberately designed to damage the minds of innocent people. I don’t mean that the trolls design it. That has already been done by those who develop the talking points. Some of the things these trolls say even hurt my mind and my heart, even though I am pretty strong, and I am often immensely grateful when others come to the fore to respond. So we have to counter it, if for no other reason than to prevent the spread of these virulent mental diseases. And we have to do it here, because we do not have the resources to mount a direct counter-attack on Limpballs and Mann Coulter. If we had the means to that, there would be no 30% defending Bushco today. As it is, we are doing the best that we can.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:10 pmCROOKS
LIERS
LEECHES
CRONY’S
TOTALLY
CORRUPT
CORRUPT
EPA
DOJ
DEPT OF ED
DEPT OF DEFENSE
DEPT OF HEALTH
DEPT OF…….. EVERY FRIGGIN ONE OF THEM
LISTEN, WHEN EVEN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS CORRUPTED
THAT JUST SHOWS THE CESSPOOL IS WELL PAST OVERFLOWING
WITH A BUNCH OF HOODLUMS, MAGGOTS, LEECHES, EVERY FRIGGIN
ONE OF THEM……. ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU
P
March 24th, 2007 at 9:13 pmU
K
E
Gerald, just keep reading, you’ll see how it all pans out. We have no business pointing fingers here…that will get us banned. Fair enough?
March 24th, 2007 at 9:13 pmSorry to say, but it looks like rachel is back off her meds and is running amok on the thread.
I’ve never known Gerald Gibson to ever make such wacky statements.
Time to do the internal “ignore” function.
Namejacking is SO not cool.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:14 pmJimbo, on the mount you so highly speak, aren’t thyself awash in sin by turning the other cheek to the devils rule.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:17 pmTime to do the internal “ignore†function.
Namejacking is SO not cool.
Comment by trueblue
Even Exley was defending me on the previous thread where it was happening also…
March 24th, 2007 at 9:18 pmShe’s probably taking a crash course at the Karl Rove School of Tes-Ta-Lie-Ying
The Justice Department also said yesterday that Monica Goodling, a senior counselor to Gonzales who worked closely with Sampson on the firings, took an indefinite personal leave from her job on Monday. A Justice official said that she is still employed there but that it is not clear when she will return.
Goodling was the DOJ liaison to the White House
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 03/ 23/ AR2007032301396.html
March 24th, 2007 at 9:18 pmlisten dude…. :)
because i’m so heavenly awesome, so much integrity
I
SHOULD
BE
THE
PRESIDENT
OF
THE
UNITED
STATES
not a chance :)
the only thing god made is is truth and the truth is i’m
one of the coolest dudes in the universe
LIKE
March 24th, 2007 at 9:28 pmDIG
MAN
So I ask you good folks here at TP, how do we take back our country from the 30%ers?
March 24th, 2007 at 9:30 pmThey have the WH, DOJ, supreme court, and the media. Have we lost and just don’t realize it yet?
Are we being played out like a dieing fish on the line?
They have the WH, DOJ, supreme court, and the media. Have we lost and just don’t realize it yet?
Are we being played out like a dieing fish on the line?
Comment by west virginia hillbilly
When you get to that point is when you are happy to back the NRA.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:32 pmSo I ask you good folks here at TP, how do we take back our country from the 30%ers?
They have the WH, DOJ, supreme court, and the media. Have we lost and just don’t realize it yet?
Are we being played out like a dieing fish on the line?
Comment by west virginia hillbilly
…when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security…
-Founding Fathers of America
March 24th, 2007 at 9:34 pmFor what it’s worth, I’ve only posted briefly on TP and Gerald is a decent, reasonable guy. Everyone needs to calm down and have a few drinks… After all, it IS Saturday night!
March 24th, 2007 at 9:35 pmYour tax dollars at work…
Dear God,
If you exist, please go to Washington, D.C. and pick up the trash you left behind. The sooner the better. The stench coming from it is overwhelming.
Thanks in advance,
March 24th, 2007 at 9:38 pmThe Loyal Opposition
The hillbillys around this neck of the woods love their guns and only a cityfolk would talk about taking their guns away. You folks in the city need gun control, we don’t. In a county of 20K, we never see a crime committed with a gun. Well maybe a few.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:41 pmLISTEN DUDE…
i’m as straight as a arrow :)
no pharma healthcare, no political leech peddline calming my
nerves, i resort to only nature :)
POLITICAL LEECHES, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE =
CESSPOOL OVERFLOWING WITH TICKS, MAGGOTS,
AND LEECHES
ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYONE PUKE
IT’S RIGGED DUDE, RIGGED
March 24th, 2007 at 9:41 pmGee Jimbo, take a swig, and be one with the woods. The nazis are at the door, but we don’t have to let them in.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:48 pmComment by rfinca
/hattip
March 24th, 2007 at 9:52 pmDUDE….
i don’t swig anything and i don’t believe any of that crock of prohibition..
now listen… breweries are all filled with lobbyist, pharma is filled with
total corruption everything they friggin do is corrupted, rigged dude
rigged.
listen dude, to a point we can pick and choose sectors of society we
wish include… all of society as we know it today is politicized INCLUDING
the doj and often that politicization includes corruption
pick and choose the ones least corrupted. pitched tv, get rid of anything
that has the likelihood of being corrupted and everything we be okay
who would run into and include sectors in their life which most likely
March 24th, 2007 at 9:58 pmis full of leeches? i certainly don’t have to have nothin to do with a
bunch of totally corrupted HOODLUMS
Him and his family are traitors!
So he’s name jacking me.
Hey if I and my family had a problems with blacks or mexicans in this country we wouldnt join in with invaders to help kill them off… that would make us Benedict Arnolds… sorry your family didnt look at it that way…
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 24, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
# 31 isn’t me. It’s Rodan who’s family were traitors for not supporting Hezzbollah!
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 24, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
Gerald IS a nice guy, that’s why those posts are not his.
Rachel, take your F*CKING meds.
March 24th, 2007 at 10:04 pmI tried to help you, but you don’t want it.
This is not acceptable behavior.
Stop.
The scariest thing about the corelations between the Polk lieing America into the Mexican war and Bush lieing America into the Iraq war….
Just a few years later America was fighting a civil war…
How crazy are the people on the right really today?
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 24, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
… huh… just what i fear…
March 24th, 2007 at 10:04 pminstead of blue and grey, it’ll be blue and red…
just like a bruise…
Hey Jimbo, are you my neighbor from across the hallow?
March 24th, 2007 at 10:05 pmThey have the WH, DOJ, supreme court, and the media.
It’s important to realize that it has always been this way. From the very beginning, the constitution established a plutocratic system of government, not a democracy. There was no consideration for women, slaves, destitute men or the infirm. Furthermore, the American plan of global hegemony has been firmly in place since the mid-19th century. In many ways, it has taken this long for this terrible nightmare to become exhausted from it’s own internal political-economic deficiencies. Put another way, there is an ultimate limit for those who choose to spit in the face of natural law.
A lot of the battle for a beginner involves overcoming the ludicrous notions and public myths that were embedded in our minds and hearts by the American educational system, and which were further burned-in by a massive campaign of psycho-religious disinformation.
Fortunately, there is a remarkable course of study on the Internet which can help counter these deficiencies and bring one up to speed in a fairly short amount of time. If you are willing to spend a bit of time in this effort, the reward greatly outweighs the cost. However, do be prepared to spend more time than you might think, because this study opens the doorways to some of the most esoteric knowledge of all time.
The New American Civil War
Good luck. Perhaps we will meet somewhere on the other side.
March 24th, 2007 at 10:08 pmFor the latest news, email archives, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
March 24th, 2007 at 10:08 pm“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”
Stonehinge, those of us who marched, shouted, and rebelled from the 60ies and on have been out voted, lost power, and explelled from society by the new americans. We are not one of them, and are casted off into the wilderness of the exploited.
March 24th, 2007 at 10:30 pmRachel, please stick to what you do best, and, no name-jacking. You’re better than that.
March 24th, 2007 at 10:31 pmwest virginia hillbilly…we are the same.
Almost everyone from that time has been compromised in one way or another. From the cosmic standpoint, look at it this way — had we not been compromised, the end-plan could not have moved forward. Had we held forth with our ideals from those times, the ultimate destruction of the beast would have only been delayed.
Fortunately for you and me, we have time to do the work. Go study at that site I recommended…you will not be disappointed!!! When you feel the time is right, make contact. Furthermore, when I say that there is a chance we’ll meet, I’m not joking. I have friends in New Vrindaban, WV who don’t even know where I am. LOL!!!
Good luck, my friend.
March 24th, 2007 at 10:47 pmtrueblue, BnF - gerald knows who has hijacked his name…
March 24th, 2007 at 10:47 pmif you read some of the wee a.m. hours comments by a ronan in the ‘breaking;gonzo’ thread you would know…
i really think you are mistaken about rachel…
katy, I’m not really sure who is hijacking Gerald this time around. If it is Rodan it’s a new low for him (ex- I-Right-I).
I thought it might be rachael based on something else…
March 24th, 2007 at 11:05 pmstonehinge.
I have made contact.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:06 pmwell, BnF, i missed the IRI tell, but i wouldn’t guess that i.d. either…
March 24th, 2007 at 11:33 pmeven iris wasn’t dumb, just disgusting and rude… putting it mildly…
ah well… matters not…
I have made contact. — BnF
I have always thought that would be the case.
It will take a little more time for me to come out of the cold. To do those kinds of things properly, one must first solve the financial dilemma. Because I am such an arrogant, willful beast, I have some really extraordinary problems in that area, problems which I hope will come to a head soon. They really had to beat the crap out of me before I would surrender.
O.M.G.
I hope we do meet one day. Perhaps the good Dr. Dr. will help facilitate that. I tried it once before with a certain very good Dr. Dr. Dr., but that one didn’t pan out the way we planned. The poor guy passed away before I could get the Nrsimhadeva Prayer down pat. Were you not of the shamanic persuasion, I’d never…surely you…oh my, never mind.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:34 pm#61 west virginia hillbilly
Yes chimpeach you have changed my mind. Don’t let them get away with bull$hit talking points. Hoiwever I’ve never seemed to be able to change the mind of a 30% er. Does talking to them make a difference?
Probably not. You’ve got to be a real diehard Bush supporter to still be hanging in there with the 30% crowd. But, then again, that percentage is bound to still go down some more. That means some minds will change. For example, when something like the Walter Reed scandal happens, it can definitely change some minds about who supports the troops.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:37 pm#63 rfinca
I want to know when Leahy is going to let loose with those subpoenas.
It doesn’t sound like the White House is going to compromise, so it will probably be pretty soon. But, in the meantime, Leahy’s going to have some people testify who might provide all the information he needs to take it even further. He may have the goods on Rove before Rove even has a chance to come in and lie his ass off.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:42 pm#79 west virginia hillbilly
So I ask you good folks here at TP, how do we take back our country from the 30%ers?
They have the WH, DOJ, supreme court, and the media. Have we lost and just don’t realize it yet?
Are we being played out like a dieing fish on the line?
We took back a big chunk of our country in November. You can’t take that for granted. Did anyone here think we’d take back BOTH houses of Congress? How stupid did Rove look after that? And poll after poll shows the country solidly in line with Democratic values. The kind of self-deception that Republicans go through every day just to feel like their life isn’t going down the tubes is almost pathological.
The righties are at a disadvantage and they know it, but they put on a brave face. Just keep knocking them back on their heels. Try to stay on top of what’s going on. Most of their accusations are bullshit, so you just have to look beneath the surface, find out what the facts are, and shove them down their throats.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:56 pmBizarre thread…..
March 25th, 2007 at 12:14 amfrom my email:
This Sunday, Senator Dick Durbin will appear on NBC’s Meet the Press with Tim Russert to discuss the ongoing U.S. Attorney scandal and the war in Iraq.
whoa! … a dem…
March 25th, 2007 at 12:15 amtimmy’s gonna need at least 2 CONS to “balance” that show, huh…
So I ask you good folks here at TP, how do we take back our country from the 30%ers?
They have the WH, DOJ, supreme court, and the media. Have we lost and just don’t realize it yet?
Are we being played out like a dieing fish on the line?
Comment by west virginia hillbilly
We’re going to have to wait ’till next summer, after Bush has been impeached and Cheney is instated as President.
Around that time, the economy will finally tank, thanks to the impending collapse of the housing market and the debt owed to china, and the dollar be completely devalued.
They will then propose merging with Mexico and Canada, as the North American Union, and use the Amero as a shared currency to try and solve America’s financial problems.
At this point there should be massive protests in the streets. This is when all the warrentless wiretapping, checking the mail, imprisoning Americans without representation and the Federal control of state militias will all become very useful tools to Cheney. This is also when most Americans will finally realized that they have been duped.
Then and only then, will Americans even begin to think of fighting back.
By then it will be too late.
Welcome to the New World Order… enjoy your stay.
March 25th, 2007 at 12:38 amAlso, all of the filling up of judicial seats, with Neocon loyalist, will be quite useful for Cheney, when he decides (decrees?) that the national elections will need to be suspended, due the national economic emergency.
You’ll see.
March 25th, 2007 at 12:55 amMichel de Nostredame,
I really hope you’re wrong.
March 25th, 2007 at 12:59 amSpeaking of Cheney…
Cheney says House doesn’t support troops
SSDD
March 25th, 2007 at 1:27 amStunning corruption. Truly stunning.
March 25th, 2007 at 1:34 amHey, Deadeye Dick, why don’t you take your 18% approval rating and your cheese-bag daughter who sold 4,000 books and screw.
-GSD
March 25th, 2007 at 1:37 amMichel de Nostredame,
I really hope you’re wrong.
Comment by Zooey
Well, look at all that has happened during this administrations reign, and ask yourself what all this expansion of Executive Branch power is leading towards.
Seems pretty obvious to me. Most people seem to be in denial about it though.
March 25th, 2007 at 1:41 amBreaking news, on more tactics that will become important for Emperor Cheney to employ, once he takes control…
March 25th, 2007 at 2:02 am“Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.” -Benjamin Franklin
Teachers’ T-Shirts Bring Bush Speech Ouster
KGW - NewsChannel 8 (Portland, Oregon)
October 15, 2004
CENTRAL POINT, Ore. — Three Medford school teachers were threatened with arrest and thrown out of the President Bush rally at the Jackson County Fairgrounds Thursday night, after they showed up wearing T-shirts with the slogan “Protect our civil liberties.”
Three Medford school teachers who were thrown out of a Bush rally because of their t-shirts.
All three women said they were carrying valid tickets for the event that they had received from Republican Party headquarters in Medford, which had been distributing event tickets to Bush supporters.
Teacher Janet Voorhies said she simply wanted to bring a message to President Bush, but did not intend to protest.
“I wanted to see if I would be able to make a statement that I feel is important, but not offensive, in a rally for my president,” said Voorhies, 48.
The women said they were angered by reports of peaceful protesters being thrown out of previous Bush-Cheney events. They said they chose the phrase, “Protect Our Civil Liberties,” because it was unconfrontational.
“We chose this phrase specifically because we didn’t think it would be offensive or degrading or obscene,” said Tania Tong, 34, a special education teacher.
The women got past the first and second checkpoints and were allowed into the Jackson County fairgrounds, but were asked to leave and then escorted out of the event by campaign officials who allegedly told them their T-shirts were “obscene.”
Source
March 25th, 2007 at 3:27 amEvilPoet on March 25, 2007 @ 3:27 am
March 25th, 2007 at 3:41 amWere they wearing bras, were the tee-shirts wet? If the answer is no to both queries, then BushCo has to pay for the flight at 1st class rates for he and his entire retinue.
Want to know how el Generalissimo Gonzo (Fredo to his buddy) is going to skate on this one? He is going to use the famous Republican mastermind, Ike Ferguson. To learn more about this genius, who has been haluing Republican fat out of the fire for four decades visit Welcome, Ike Ferguson
Visit the Schapira blog, What we know so far …
“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!
March 25th, 2007 at 3:49 amgonzogate:nytimes:growing body of evidence
March 25th, 2007 at 8:29 amI think the same can be said for our country. We’re not exactly the shining beacon of liberty and freedom anymore, ourselves….
– I wrote such a story, which got traction at Daily Kos, but no where else. It links Collins to Citizens for the Common Defense, a “shadowy” group co-founded by Bradford Berenson, Kyle Sampson’s current attorney and former senior associate White House Counsel to Bush, Jr., which group describes itself as promoting a “robust” view of presidential power.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/19/12148/2763, titled “Neocons Braintrust US Atty Firings: Link to Bush”.
….My feeling that there’s more going on at DOJ that meets the eye, as I expressed by pointing out the “Feeney Amendment” and reaction to the “Booker” and “Blakely” cases, is gaining more weight. Please review the documents with an eye for the bigger picture, the politization of justice in general.
March 25th, 2007 at 10:22 amFrom the artilce linked in 110:
Cheney said Bush will not withdraw troops before there is stability in Iraq.
There’s been infighting in Iraq for the past 1,400 years. Saddam “stabilized” Iraq by killing off entire villages. Bush removed Saddam and destroyed whatever infrastructure existed that helped maintain security. Bush did not commit enough troops to be able to secure munitions depots, thereby arming the populace. Bush did not, and still does not commit enough troops to secure the entire country, thereby allowing insurgents to leave one “secured” area and wreck havoc elsewhere.
There’s been infighting in Iraq for the past 1,400 years.
But Iraq will be deemed “stabilized” when its oil runs out.
March 25th, 2007 at 11:03 amWorth a read:
http://news.yahoo.com/ comics/ doonesbury;_ylt=AihVmqa4S5WiHKV8CZXz1SjdcLQF
March 25th, 2007 at 11:05 amAlso, all of the filling up of judicial seats, with Neocon loyalist, will be quite useful for Cheney, when he decides (decrees?) that the national elections will need to be suspended, due the national economic emergency.
You’ll see.
Comment by Michel de Nostredame
Maybe now is the time to take the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution seriously and do what many on the left would previously have not considered a neccessary thing. Just get a safetly lockbox so no accidents occur…
http://www.gunbroker.com/
March 25th, 2007 at 11:53 amBNF ~ That is a convenient “when the Iraqis stand up” definition, isn’t it?
March 25th, 2007 at 12:18 pmI wonder when the fraggings by the troops will commence?
This was all planned before the new version of The Patriot Act was even voted on. The GOP just overplayed their hand. If they had fired two at a time over a longer period, they probably wouldn’t have received so much flak.
March 25th, 2007 at 12:40 pmPC #123 ~ can you say HUBRIS? Their arrogance is soooooo heavy duty, just beyond belief that they wouldn’t have someone raising red flags, you know, like “What if somebody figures this out??”
March 25th, 2007 at 12:55 pmRUCerious, have you noticed some of the emails, planning ahead for damage control…after-the-fact justifications for the firings…’three are from southern border states, so we could say it had to do with illegal immigrant prosecutions’…
I wonder who made the call to withhold emails from the most relevent period of time? Would that in and of itself be obstruction of justice? Certainly it is flipping off Congress…just as was the “unprecedented” offer of testimony by Rove and Meiers - behind closed doors; no oath; no transcript; and they get two lawyers present during their “testimony.”
Bush and the Republicans can’t limit the scope of this inquiry as they did the nyne-juan-juan “investigation.”
March 25th, 2007 at 1:13 pmThe other war…
“We need to find ways to win the war” Karl Rove, President Bush’s political director told a gathering of the Family Research Council in March, 2002. The Family Research Council is one of the most powerful lobbying organizations of the Religious Right today. Rove wasn’t talking about the war on terrorism. He was talking about the war on secular society. The Reverend Tim LaHaye co-authored Mind Siege: The Battle for Truth in the New Millennium, published in 2000. The best-selling book issues a call to arms for evangelical Christians to battle against secular humanism. Mind Siege declares that secular humanism is a “religion,” and issues marching orders to evangelical Christians to gear up for an all-out battle to root secular humanists out of public life; their bottom line is that “No humanist is fit to hold office.” Continued here…
(09-14-04) Conquering by Stealth and Deception: How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power: Americans and the main-stream media have been very slow in catching on to the fact that we are in a war—a war that is cultural, religious and political–a war that uses stealth and deception and the rules of engagement written by the enemies to representative democracy. Unless Americans wake up–we could lose that war. Continued here…
(2006) ‘American Theocracy’ - Clear and Present Dangers
March 25th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWaltTheMan - Punishing Critics, Silencing Opponents should be one of their motto’s - not just a title on a webpage.
March 25th, 2007 at 1:52 pmComment by PoliticalCritic — March 25, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Comment by RUCerious — March 25, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
Did you catch Briseadh’s post on this thread yesterday at 7:29 pm?
The part I found interesting is this excerpt from Sampson’s e-mail re: the attorney firings:
…if we start caving to complaining U.S. Attorneys or Senators then we shouldn’t do it — it’ll be more trouble than it is worth.
In other words, and as we have been saying, they had no good reason(s) to fire the attorneys. If it was truly about performance, and they could prove this to anyone who “complained,” then there should be no problem. But that’s not the position we are in, now is it???
And, as was pointed out on crooksandliars.com, if Bush was not involved in the firings, as Tony Snow says, why is he whining about executive priviledge? Per the Constitution, only the president can fire the attorneys. If Bush was not involved in the decision to fire the attorneys, why not?
If he was not involved and none of his advisors consulted him on it, why is he hiding behind the excuse that having the advisors testify in front of Congress, in the open, under oath, with a transcript, that all this will harm his (and future presidents’) ability to discuss important matters in the future?
March 25th, 2007 at 1:58 pm…if we start caving to complaining U.S. Attorneys or Senators then we shouldn’t do it — it’ll be more trouble than it is worth.
WC,
In my opinion, that part of the email shows that they were completely aware that what they were doing was illegal.
March 25th, 2007 at 2:15 pmOutgoing and Incoming Mail: Dead Letter Office
Where’s Timothy? Hint: Caging.
March 25th, 2007 at 2:20 pmWhen the bush speaks, just laugh
Comment by west virginia hillbilly #48
Hey wvh,
a guy called C-Span one morning about three weeks ago…
…he said the the enemy was right here in our own government…
…with the right wingers trying to “enslave” the middle class…
…was that you by any chance?
…it was Really an eye-opener for me because (seriously- no insult intended)…
…I didn’t think there were any “thinking” Progressive people in WVA…
March 25th, 2007 at 2:23 pmWhen the bush speaks
What Did Mr. Bush’s 2nd Inaugural Address Really Mean?
March 25th, 2007 at 2:58 pmDarn it, I had planned to escape to Mexico if things got bad! Now Michel tells me that will be out.
Frankly, I don’t see the Mexicans going for that arrangement. They are much more likely to form a union with Central and South American countries. At least they all speak the same language.
The Mexican people are also well aware of the many manipulations that the USA has perpetrated on them over the years - and they are not bad at revolution and guerilla warfare.
March 25th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIn my opinion, that part of the email shows that they were completely aware that what they were doing was illegal.
Comment by Zooey — March 25, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Bingo.
March 25th, 2007 at 3:37 pmComment by Zooey — March 25, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
And this. For a brief moment, let’s pretend that performance issues were truly the reasons for firing the 8 attorneys.
What this part of the e-mail is saying is this:
“Yeah, there are performance issues from the 8 attorneys and they are hurting the government’s attempts at prosecuting cases, but we may have to let them stay in if we get any heat from other attorneys or the Congress.”
Yep. Makes perfect sense to me (not).
Oh, and I’m still waiting for the administration to reveal the REAL reasons they were fired, as they threatened a few weeks ago.
Come on, Bush. You can do it. I’m sure the reasons will be unquestionable. Just think…this whole issue could be ancient history by next Wednesday.
March 25th, 2007 at 3:46 pmCome on, Bush. You can do it. I’m sure the reasons will be unquestionable. Just think…this whole issue could be ancient history by next Wednesday.
Comment by WC
If this admin can’t figure out that they should have tried to plant WMD in Iraq, then there’s really no hope they’ll figure it out now.
March 25th, 2007 at 5:13 pm