The Democratic presidential candidates are in Las Vegas today for the New Leadership on Health Care 2008 Presidential Forum. ThinkProgress is featuring exclusive streaming video. Watch it live at 9am PT/noon ET.
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Here’s the order of the candidate presentations (listed in order the candidates accepted invitation to the forum):
1. Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)
2. Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)
3. Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
4. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
5. Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT)
6. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
7. Sen. Mike Gravel (D-AK)
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March 24th, 2007 at 10:50 am#
More BS from TP with Hillary first and Obama next to last. I feel like I’m reading Fox.com. SHEâ€S A LOSER.
Comment by Bill Miller — March 24, 2007 @ 2:41 am
It’s in alphabetical order
Clinton, Dodd, Edwards, etc etc, that’s why Obama and Richardson are last
March 24th, 2007 at 11:09 amTP, I hope you’re going to have other threads today, as well. There’s no way I can watch this forum with dial up.
Please, will you post the questions asked by TP commenters?
March 24th, 2007 at 11:26 amJust attribute them by initials and state, for privacy reasons.
So a leadership change on the anvil.
http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com
March 24th, 2007 at 11:28 amPlease, TP have some other thread’s as well….My old iMac said no to this, can’t join in…Blessings
March 24th, 2007 at 11:36 amYeah, this mandatory download of realplayer is not cool. Why do we have to download it?
March 24th, 2007 at 11:41 amHave to agree with the prevailing sentiment here…I only downloaded RealPlayer for this video, and I plan on erasing it and scrubbing away all traces as soon as it’s done.
In the future, can we consider some other options for streaming video? Kthx.
Here’s another thought….a live audio stream would consume much less bandwidth, and enable some of our more bandwidth-challenged friends to join the debate (after all, I don’t need to see Hillary’s mug to hear what she has to say… ^_^).
March 24th, 2007 at 11:49 amIt says “Thanks for my question” when I came onto the site, but I never submitted a question. It doesn’t appear that I can now.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:52 amSeriously, I can’t tell you how annoyed I am at this Real Player BS. Thought Iwas getting an unobtrusive plugin, and instead got the whole works, AND they want private information.
Please, don’t ever do this again. I’ve scrubbed RealPlayer out of my system already, and I won’t be watching the clips.
I expect better from you guys, I trust ThinkProgress, and this has seriously aggravated me.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:54 amI couldn’t agree more with #1. I hate Real Player passionately and will not refuse to participate in watching this event if Real Player is my only option for watching. I’m not going to install that crap on my computer. Go through the install process yourself and look how they try to install extra crap (weather channel?!) on your computer and they require your name and email address for activation. Forget it.
March 24th, 2007 at 11:54 amUmm..TP…Not to be pick, but where is the form?
March 24th, 2007 at 12:03 pmReal Player is working well for me.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:07 pmOK, never mind, it is there now. Got my question in. Thanks
March 24th, 2007 at 12:07 pmIf you don’t like Realplayer, get Real Alternative. That’s what I’m using.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:09 pmAll I’m getting is an endless loop of video with talking about the health care problem. Has the forum started yet? Am I doing something wrong?
March 24th, 2007 at 12:11 pmWhat’s wrong? All I am connecting to is a healthcare video.
Have the candidates spoke yet??????
March 24th, 2007 at 12:11 pmStarting in a few moments, Karen.
I’ve submitted my questions…hope to have them answered.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:13 pmStarting now!
March 24th, 2007 at 12:14 pmI have lost many years of my life due to a late-diagnosed mental illness. I was a middle class professional psychologist (doctorate) who is now deeply in debt, due to lack of parity in mental health benefits. I will not benefit from the new parity legislation proposed if I return to private practice. Long term plans????
March 24th, 2007 at 12:14 pmReal Player isn’t a problem. You can give it bogus private info. It doesn’t care. My two cents.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:15 pmAnd we’re off…
March 24th, 2007 at 12:16 pmI couldn’t download Real Player and after reading these posts I am glad. I would like to know if any of the candidates are supporting a single payer health plan. In my view all other plans are beholden to the insurance industries and are too complicated for ordinary mortals to understand.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:20 pmPlease ask Mrs. Clinton why she would have us wait for healthcare, if she becomes president, until her second term(assuming she’d get one).
March 24th, 2007 at 12:21 pmHey, it’s John Podesta! Where’s Jake to ambush him with off-topic questions?
March 24th, 2007 at 12:21 pmComment by Mary — March 24, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
Ask her yourself, mary…that’s an excellent question, and one I’d like to hear the answer to.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:23 pmsorry, I posted that in the wrong place. Hopefully, this time it went through
March 24th, 2007 at 12:24 pmAll I get is a request to download the plugin. This is after I’ve downloaded real player. Where is the, oh I don’t know, play button?
March 24th, 2007 at 12:26 pmTP, thanks for the opportunity. It’s great that you were able to arrange this Q&A session for us.
Unfortunately, I can’t afford the necessary technology to participate. But I will still ask my question.
That does make me worry that I and others like me will not have an equal voice… Are their possible alternatives that won’t exclude those who don’t have the latest technology? Maybe a transcript of the questions and answers after the fact?
Thanks!
March 24th, 2007 at 12:26 pmPuleeeeeeeeeeeeez, why just this crappy Real Player (an abnoxious, intusive program)???!!!
March 24th, 2007 at 12:27 pmI’m not getting this broadcast and it’s now 12:30 Eastern time; is anyone else getting it?
March 24th, 2007 at 12:27 pmI also see “Thank you for submitting a question . . .” But I haven’t yet. Are we going to use the comments section for submitting questions?
March 24th, 2007 at 12:27 pmQuestions can be posted in that field.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:27 pmI was having trouble with RealPlayer, too, but clicked the link on this webpage, to an external source and now it is streaming beautifully.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:28 pmWHy just Real player???!!!! {it’s crappy, bulky, very intrusive)
March 24th, 2007 at 12:28 pmAll candidates. I am uninsured tax payer who pays Medi W/H through Taxes.
Will Universal Health Care eliminate the Medi W/H currently being taken out via taxes or, will that be the system used to implement the program?
March 24th, 2007 at 12:29 pmWhy just Real Player???!!!! [it’s crappy, bulky, very intrusive. I refuse to install it in my computer]
This is BS…..
March 24th, 2007 at 12:30 pmWhere the hell do I click to see the video? I just spent 15 minutes downloading RealPlayer!!!!!!!!!!!!1
March 24th, 2007 at 12:31 pmThe form on which I am supposed to be able to ask a question is not there. I would like to ask ANY of the candidates why we can’t just expand and improve the existing Medicare system to include everyone, on a single-payer system. This would be simple and uncomplicated. Medicare works — I’m on it.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:33 pmSusan (and others):
Click here to open the video in an external RealPlayer window.
That’s working much better for me than trying to view it here on the web page.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:33 pmJohn Edwards…here we go.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:34 pmQuestion I submitted:
Until Corporate Personhood is no longer truly running our nation, Health Care, like all other social programs that benefit the majority of Americans, will not be viable. Because Big Pharma and the Insurance Industry have campaigned against National Health Care, and because they have the finances to do so, the have and will continue to keep the United States as the only Industrialized Nation without a National Health Care system.
As President, what will you do to unleash yourselves from the problems created by Corporations controlling our political system - and as a result our very health?
Thank you very much for your willingness to be subjected to the questions of a frustrated population who feels like its government has used and abandoned them.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:35 pmI HAVE DOWNLOADED REALPLAYER TWICE. REBOOTED TWICE. TRIED BOTH IE AND FIREFOX AND STILL NOTHING. REALPLAYER SUCKS ASS!!! NEVER USE IT AGAIN!!!
March 24th, 2007 at 12:36 pmI would like to ask ANY of the candidates why we can’t just expand and improve the existing Medicare system to include everyone, on a single-payer system. This would be simple and uncomplicated.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:36 pm(Side note: Think Progress’ web site needs a serious overhaul. This comment system is seriously antiquated. No registration, no threading, and a good 5-minute gap between posting a comment and seeing it appear, all conspire to derail discourse.)
March 24th, 2007 at 12:37 pmTax increases. There it is.
At least he has the chutzpah to admit the realities of the situation…
March 24th, 2007 at 12:39 pmComment by ONE PISSED OFF UNABLE TO LISTEN PERSON — March 24, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Please refer to my earlier comment, pissed….
March 24th, 2007 at 12:40 pmHmmm…Jon’s address is focusing quite a bit on women….unsurprising…
March 24th, 2007 at 12:42 pmThanks alot ThinkNONProgress. Who had the bright idea to use stupid realplayer. Fire that person.
Realplayer is the worst possible choice of all. No wonder AirAmerica went Bankrupt.
I hope you are saving the forum so we can watch it later on a normal video player.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:44 pmONE PISSED OFF UNABLE TO LISTEN PERSON
CNN Pipeline has it Live right now. Chill……….
;p
March 24th, 2007 at 12:49 pmI couldn’t agree more about the RealPlayer choice - that’s about as smart as having Fox network host the democratic presidential debates. I want to watch this, so downloaded the player, gave them a fake address (I’m not stupid and know their reputation). I plan to remove it from my computer as soon as this broadcast is over and pray to the computer Goddess that they didn’t put any invisible crap on my computer.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:50 pmpissed, did you refer to my earlier comment?
I don’t like RealPlayer any more than you…but I’m watching John Edwards right now…
March 24th, 2007 at 12:51 pmDespite the initial tax increase overall cost would be reduced. You would end up saving money.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:51 pmEdwards blew it in 2004 when he and Kerry REFUSED to fight the second stolen presidential election. They both let down the nation. How could anyone ever trust him again? Kerry was right not to run again. Edwards should drop out of the race. He is worse than Lieberman.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:53 pmReal Player? NO THANKS!
March 24th, 2007 at 12:54 pmKevin, I agree with your entire post, except for the last sentence.
That’s crossing the line.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:59 pm“Hero’s Health Card”???
Emotionally charged language, anyone?
March 24th, 2007 at 1:00 pmThanks for the CNN pipeline suggestion. But there is no way I am going to give any MSM gnus service any of my money, even $2.95. Besides, realplayer finally decided to work on my computer.
Wow! That only took one hour! And the pixelated video picture is giving away the Matrix reality. I took the red chill pill.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:04 pm“TP, I hope you’re going to have other threads today, as well. There’s no way I can watch this forum with dial up.
Please, will you post the questions asked by TP commenters?
Just attribute them by initials and state, for privacy reasons.
Comment by Zooey — March 24, 2007 @ 11:26 am”
What intelligent question would you ask zooey?
March 24th, 2007 at 1:06 pmIs Richardson a real candidate? He has had plenty of time to prepare for this and this is the best he has to offer. Temporary solutions, piecemeal options and esoteric verbiage? He has nothing to offer on healthcare. Really pathetic, Governor.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:06 pmEven if you have RealPlayer, some may not be able to view the embedded video, particularly Internet Explorer users
You need to fire your tech person and get a professional. Over 90% of Internet users are on Internet Explorer. Why would you not START with a technology system that is rock solid on Internet Explorer?
Given that… this RP feed seems to be working just fine on Vista with IE.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:06 pmThe emcee asked excellent questions, but I’d like to hear all of the candidates responses to a set (could be small in number) of the same questions. I believe this enables the best way to compare the candidates’ plans one to the other.
I also hope that the next effort to hold such a forum provides simple alternatives for listening as well as watching. As I read the comments, most were concerned about joining the forum instead of providing substantive questions. I too had difficulty joining the forum and had to drive to a nearby library to get connected.
Thanks!
March 24th, 2007 at 1:08 pm(Side note: Think Progress’ web site needs a serious overhaul. This comment system is seriously antiquated. No registration, no threading, and a good 5-minute gap between posting a comment and seeing it appear, all conspire to derail discourse.)
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Thanks for bringing this up - I thought I was only the one having problems. It’s frustrating to say the least! I also don’t like that some people can’t access the webcast. A forum for universal health care that not everyone can access - ironic, isn’t it?
March 24th, 2007 at 1:08 pm“Please, TP have some other thread’s as well….My old iMac said no to this, can’t join in…Blessings
Comment by Sharon — March 24, 2007 @ 11:36 am”
You won’t be missing anything unless you enjoy listening to politicians explain how they are going to raise your taxes.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:09 pmIts working fine for me .
March 24th, 2007 at 1:10 pmOnly Edwards has a comprehensive plan that will pass because it’s transitional.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:14 pmAnother vote for never using Real player again.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:16 pmmichael sez:
So why exactly are you here, michael?
Still serving up your own ’special’ contribution to the discussion, I see.
If you have genuinely concerns about tax hikes, there’s a form at the top of this page. Use it.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:18 pmEdwards was a successful trial lawyer. He could have helped with the stolen election lawsuits in 2004. Instead he went into hiding with Kerry and refused to fight the stolen election. That was inexcusable, their inaction makes both Kerry and Edwards complicit in the stolen election of 2004. Lieberman, as bad as he is today, did not run away in 2000.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:18 pmReal alternative works wonders instead of real player.Also known al media player classic.
I fully recommend it.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:20 pmthe video quality seems to have two settings…excellent and terrible, with the webcast switching randomly between the two.
Right now, Obama looks like he’s wearing a scramble suit from A Scanner Darkly…
March 24th, 2007 at 1:20 pmAnd Obama continues his trend of saying nothing in a whole lot of words. :P
March 24th, 2007 at 1:25 pm“If you have genuinely concerns about tax hikes, there’s a form at the top of this page. Use it.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 24, 2007 @ 1:18 pm”
I did!
March 24th, 2007 at 1:27 pmthe video quality seems to have two settings…excellent and terrible, with the webcast switching randomly between the two.
I’m glad I’m not the only one having this problem…
March 24th, 2007 at 1:27 pmUh-oh…Obama’s starting to vapor-lock…
March 24th, 2007 at 1:29 pm“Edwards was a successful trial lawyer. He could have helped with the stolen election lawsuits in 2004.
Comment by ONE PISSED OFF UNABLE TO LISTEN PERSON — March 24, 2007 @ 1:18 pm”
What stolen election? Be explicit!
March 24th, 2007 at 1:29 pmmichale sez:
Educate yourself.
When you’re done, we’d appreciate it if you could help to keep the discussion on this thread on-topic. Kthx.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:32 pm(11-22-01) So Bush Did Steal the White House: A recently uncovered memo shows that the Florida judge in charge of last year’s presidential recount was moving toward counting the “overvotes” that heavily favored Al Gore when George W. Bush got five Republicans on the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene to save the day. Continued here…
Hey michael - how’s that voter fraud thing going?
March 24th, 2007 at 1:35 pm“You won’t be missing anything unless you enjoy listening to politicians explain how they are going to raise your taxes.”
That’s right, because your tax dollars going to Iraq is so much better.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:36 pmSo far, no one is addressing the proactive issue of prevention. If Andorra can have the longest life expectancy in the world with primitive health care, then the U.S. with the most advanced health care in the world should have a much longer life expectancy than 48th place.
Perhaps we should get rid of the expensive AMA quacks, expensive pharmeceutical drug poisons and factory produced junk foods, and instead start to eat nutritious organic food and get proper exercise.
These prevention techniques would cost the U.S. nothing and actually save billions of dollars as Americans regain their health. Americans also would save a fortune in health care expenses, although many drugs companies and factory food manufacturers would go out of business.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:36 pmAnd here comes Hillary…
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March 24th, 2007 at 1:40 pmZooey,
I don’t have DSL either, and I’m not a high-tech person. I don’t even know what TP is talking about with all of this high-tech stuff.
Real Player? What’s that? Aren’t the REAL PLAYERS in the Bush administration.
FORGET HIGH-TECH FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
Two media giants, the Washington Post and CBS News, have the funniest, funniest, funniest headlines today.
Today’s Washington Post headline:
GONZALES HAS “I DIDN’T HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN MOMENT.”
Trust me! I didn’t make this headline up: I DIDN’T HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN MOMENT.
Today’s CBS News headline:
GONZALES LAUNCHES PR CAMPAIGN.
Oh no! I pity the citizens of PR–PUERTO RICO. I guess things are looking so bad for Alberto in the states, that he’s forced to run for some office in the territory of Puerto Rico. What Puerto Rican office is Gonzales running for? It must be dog catcher.
Come to think of it, maybe the entire Bush administration better move to PR–Puerto Rico.
Being a Don Juan in San Juan, PR sounds good. Girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls and more girls. How lovely!
John
March 24th, 2007 at 1:43 pmKevin– Kerry refused to challenge the vote count in Ohio, not Edwards. Edwards stayed up all night arguing against conceding the race. Kerry and his team made the decision, not Edwards. Read EE’s book “Saving Graces”, she writes about that night. Don’t write him off yet.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:44 pmGov. Richards not clear in explaining his plan. John Edwards very clear and sounds well-planned. Obama was shockingly ill-prepared. Here comes Clinton. I hope someone asks her what happened to the Clinton plan when there was a Dem majority and Dem in the WH, and lots of goodwill in the country. Why did it fail? Why not send it to the congress? Bill ran on it, but his plan wasn’t completed and ready to go for the congress.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:45 pmHillary says “everyone is susceptible to something.” She is susceptible to the voters disapproving of her continued support for the illegal Iraqi war. I guess that’s why she says she wants to make health care the number one issue, at least for today anyway.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:49 pmUm….”number one issue”, Hillary? I don’t think so.
Universal health care is certainly important, but there’s a few things that require your more immediate attention (corrupt administration, impeachable offenses, gutting of the constitution, unjust imperialist war, etc., etc.).
Sorry, Hillary, but your grandstanding just cost you my vote. Again.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:49 pmZooey,
I don’t have DSL either, and I’m not a high-tech person. I don’t even know what TP is talking about with all of this high-tech stuff.
Real Player? What’s that? Aren’t the REAL PLAYERS in the Bush administration.
FORGET HIGH-TECH FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
Two media giants, the Washington Post and CBS News, have the funniest, funniest, funniest headlines today.
Today’s Washington Post headline:
GONZALES HAS “I DIDN’T HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN MOMENT.”
Trust me! I didn’t make this headline up: I DIDN’T HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN MOMENT.
Today’s CBS News headline:
GONZALES LAUNCHES PR CAMPAIGN.
Oh no! I pity the citizens of PR–PUERTO RICO. I guess things are looking so bad for Alberto in the states, that he’s forced to run for some office in the territory of Puerto Rico. What Puerto Rican office is Gonzales running for? It must be dog catcher.
Come to think of it, maybe the entire Bush administration better move to PR–Puerto Rico.
Being a Don Juan in San Juan, PR sounds good. Girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls and more girls. How lovely!
John
PS. I punched the “send” button and nothing worked. I’m going to send this again. It may have gone through, but I don’t know. There may be two posts, but I don’t want to type this again.
My REAL PLAYER must not be working. Yeah, that’s it.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:50 pmYeah, that’s it.
My question for any candidate:
Our immigration laws are currently barely enforced. The proposed solution, “comprehensive immigration reform” will make the illegal immigration problem even worse by broadcasting an extremely loud message to millions of prospective illegal aliens that all they need to do is come here illegally and wait a few years for their own amnesty. Isn’t the only way to support universal healthcare by coupling it with stringent enforcement of our current immigration laws? Won’t anything else - the current lax enforcement or the proposed “reform” - simply bankrupt the proposed healthcare plan?
March 24th, 2007 at 1:50 pmBest presentation definitely has to go to Obama. His answers were the most genuine and thoughtful.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:51 pmFirst, Real player sucks! Very bad & very intrussive program (it plants itself everywhere without permission–hard to get rid of it) and very bad company to do business with. Didn’t you learn from the Air America experience????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Second, regarding health care. I don’t understand why NO ONE will say: SCRAP the whole system of HMOs, big insurance companies, and huge bureacracies???!!!! Perhaps, we need to raise taxes, but we will SAVE lots of $$$$. Those of us who have coverage, it’s expensive. We pay for it either directly or through the employer–the latter could use the savings and offer better pay to employees.
Just showing the SS card (or something like that) everyone should be able to get health care as a right in a very wealthy, enlightened (?) country! ANd, focus on prevention. This would save additional $$$, as treating the effects are always more expensive in the latter stages of a disease.
Same with the environment! Maybe more $ up front, but you save money by not having to pay for the clean up… and you have a cleaner place for us to live in… and for our children.
Enough with those who claim to support a culture of life but only during the time two cells meet until childbirth. After that, survival of the fittest!
March 24th, 2007 at 1:52 pmSince we have a human population quickly approaching 7 billion, far beyond the natural parameters of the planet, it is more likely that over medicating people will only ensure that diseases become more rampant, more virulent and more common (a fact which can be observed by those with their eyes open to the actual universe).
Instead of instant medication, a mere band-aid on the problem, we need to consider how to treat the real roots of our illnesses - excessive population. And, how nature deals with such problems.
Consider the following:
“The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.”
– Richard Dawkins, “God’s Utility Function” Scientific American (November, 1995)
March 24th, 2007 at 1:52 pmThanks marsha…I posted a similar comment, but it was eaten by the capricious TP spam filter.
Just one more reason this site needs a serious overhaul.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:52 pmHillary is really worried about fielding questions. She has repeated the same points in the same response.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:55 pmClinton good job explaining the problem - but what about the solution? I think this campaign will come down to who is the one to get the job done. I think people are sick of the rhetoric, lies, or ineffective governing.
I want to hear Clinton say, this is what I would do, when, how and how to pay for it.
March 24th, 2007 at 1:56 pmHillary makes my teeth itch. Did she say anything?
March 24th, 2007 at 2:01 pmTotally agree Mary. Hillary is similar to Bush in that she wants to fulfill an agenda without paying for it. What does this mean? It means further deficit spending which will bury future generations. Preventative care will save money in the long run but Hillary must realize it will cost money initially.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:01 pmGonzales Launches PR Campaign
Who’s paying for it? We the People? ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:01 pmPerhaps we should get rid of the expensive AMA quacks, expensive pharmeceutical drug poisons and factory produced junk foods, and instead start to eat nutritious organic food and get proper exercise.
Comment by KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA — March 24, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
I started that 15 years ago. Took a few years to evolve from the culture into which I was born… But, at 40, I look like I’m in my late twenties, and I still have just as much energy. My dental hygenists are amazed at the quality of my teeth. I have great blood pressure, low cholesterol, no joint pain, and no wrinkles. I look at my friends who are my age, and definitely don’t feel half as worn and tired as they do.
I wholly agree with you - that a more realistic solution for our health care problems would be for the Government to teach people how to take better care of themselves from the start. And, as I keep saying, we won’t see that happen as long as Big Businesses own our politicians, and as a result ,our government…
March 24th, 2007 at 2:03 pmI have a question for Mrs Clinton.
She spoke about funding a plan to create a centralized repository for these medical records.
In the mid 90’s I worked on the VA’s VBA “Highway One” project, which was a centralized effort in the VA to electronically scan and store all Veterans medical records into a centralized, indexed and searchable electronic database.
Why can’t we leverage this and other efforts already underway within the government and private sector. Wouldn’t it be more cost effective to use technology and procedures already in use, instead of re-inventing the wheel?
March 24th, 2007 at 2:03 pmJohn Gilpins,
Aren’t the REAL PLAYAS in the Bush administration? Heh.
Oy. Heaven help us.
Hi tech, Schmi tech! I’m getting a lot of homework done. :)
March 24th, 2007 at 2:03 pmAnd here comes Dodd.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:04 pmI didn’t see Edwards (and he’s my guy), but Clinton sounded good on this one issue.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:04 pmmarsha h — March 24, 2007 @ 1:44 pm True. But Kerry had nothing to do with Edward’s terrible decision to do nothing about the stolen election AFTER Election Day. That was a decision Edwards made on his own.
Because he refused to fight the stolen election in Ohio and other states court cases, he does not deserve to run again, let alone ever become the president. Write him off as unelectable.
He should drop out of the race because I can guarantee you that at least one Democratic candidate will bring up this issue with Edwards sometime this year.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:05 pmHillary: We need a movement for health care in this country. Huh? Check out the front page here: 64% off us think the government should guarantee health insurance.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:06 pmThis is awful. In and out. Mostly out. Very, very frustrated.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:07 pmGreat discussion. I am afraid nobody is talking at all about cost. There are potential savings in efficiency but nobody has mentioned some critical factors, The absurd expectations of people espectially at the end of life and the extra cost incurred by physicians ordering tests and treatments because of fear of malpractice. There is also the pressure of technology that is driving increased costs. We have to ratchet down expectations or there isn’t going to be enough money in the world for us to give everything to everybody.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:09 pmBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH please elect us
Demcrats and republicans say this all the time and nothing changes it just get worse
Sorry But Its Deja-Vu again and again and again and again
March 24th, 2007 at 2:09 pmYou won’t be missing anything unless you enjoy listening to politicians explain how they are going to raise your taxes.
Comment by michael
Yes that would be interesting. I am one of the people that make enough that a large part of my income is taken as taxes… I would like to know what those tax dollars are going to be spent on and how much more will be needed to get our country straightened out.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:11 pmRealplayer???? Maybe next time we who regularly post can be part of a vote on which player to use….a shame I came home early to see this.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:14 pm… But, at 40, I look like I’m in my late twenties, and I still have just as much energy. My dental hygenists are amazed at the quality of my teeth. I have great blood pressure, low cholesterol, no joint pain, and no wrinkles. I look at my friends who are my age, and definitely don’t feel half as worn and tired as they do.
Comment by unbelievable
Oh please,please,write a book for us. We are all so very interested in your constantly updated resume. *yawn*
March 24th, 2007 at 2:14 pmDodd is so far the obly one who has addressed the power dynamic - what’s holding back the effort to get the job done, in the past, and what can be done in congress to move it forward.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:17 pmunbelievable — March 24, 2007 @ 2:03 pm Good job! Same with me, but I am 50 and feel like I am 30. Also, I can’t remember the last time I had a cold.
If it comes in a box, it’s not real food! Actually, once you leave the produce section, everything else in the grocery store is not real food. Fresh produce is good, fresh organic produce is better, just picked fresh organic food bought at the local farmers market is the best!
I believe this is the key to affordable health care for everyone.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:18 pmOh please,please,write a book for us. We are all so very interested in your constantly updated resume. *yawn*
Comment by just sayin’ — March 24, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
Yes, we know you always want it to be ALL about you. And that when it isn’t, you act like a spoiled rotten brat. Grow upalready. If anything is old and tired it is you.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:20 pm“I didn’t see Edwards (and he’s my guy), but Clinton sounded good on this one issue.
Comment by rfinca — March 24, 2007 @ 2:04 pm”
What is it about Edwards that you like?
March 24th, 2007 at 2:22 pm“Hi tech, Schmi tech! I’m getting a lot of homework done. :)
Comment by Zooey — March 24, 2007 @ 2:03 pm”
6th grade history is not easy is it?
March 24th, 2007 at 2:23 pmDodd is a great speaker, very affable.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:25 pmI’d like to see a House and Senate Bill example posted on their website. Out of the closet! Put your plan on the line because we’re tired of the rhetoric. Please stop saying, “I want to see….” (Dodd) No! Democrats want to see your plan!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:25 pmIf you want universal health care ASAP, vote for John Edwards. He has the best and most viable plan.
And, to Kevin: It was John Kerry who chose not to pursue the claims of ballot fraud in 2004. John Edwards disagreed with John Kerry about that!!!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:25 pmSame with me, but I am 50 and feel like I am 30. Also, I can’t remember the last time I had a cold.
Wow! You’re doing better than I am… I caught the flu this year :(
I read that the anti-biotics fed to chickens and cows have made this situation even worse…. (why I went vegan).
If it comes in a box, it’s not real food! Actually, once you leave the produce section, everything else in the grocery store is not real food. Fresh produce is good, fresh organic produce is better, just picked fresh organic food bought at the local farmers market is the best!
You’re making me hungry :)
Do you grow your own garden? I wish I could have one year-round. By the time the produce gets shipped here from California, it’s obvious it’s a few days old.
I believe this is the key to affordable health care for everyone.
Comment by KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA — March 24, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
For the most part - and in general - absolutely. After all, you are what you eat…
March 24th, 2007 at 2:26 pm“Educate yourself.
When you’re done, we’d appreciate it if you could help to keep the discussion on this thread on-topic. Kthx.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 24, 2007 @ 1:32 pm”
Your proof is an article from Rolling Stone? I think it is you who better educate yourself. You lost in 2000 and you cried “stolen election”. You lost in 2004 by over 2 million votes and you cry “stolen election”! Grow up!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:28 pmComment by michael — March 24, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
michael, earlier I asked you if you could try to stay on-topic.
Fortunately, we’re used to you disappointing us.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:29 pmDemcrats and republicans say this all the time and nothing changes it just get worse
Sorry But Its Deja-Vu again and again and again and again
Comment by Tobey Tall
Then the right needs to be removed as a road block dont they?
March 24th, 2007 at 2:31 pm“What is it about Edwards that you like?”
Michael, why do I get the feeling you will try to pick a fight? Maybe your previous posts?
Edwards is a straight shooter. His belief on the major issues correspond with my beliefs.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:31 pmRegarding the side-discussion regarding organic food:
My wife and I purchased a juicer after she was diagnosed with her brain tumor. The health benefits of juicing organic fruits and vegetables are truly miraculous. Like Kevin said, if it comes in a box, can, or jar, it’s not fit to put in your body.
98% of all illnesses I see around me can be directly attributed to the food we eat, including diabetes, which Hillary termed an ‘epidemic’.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:34 pmI agree with Kucinich and like medicare care for all, but can’t stand his self-righteous, sneering manner of saying it. 64% of us want it. Edwards offers medicare for all to compete with madatory insurance and thinks that over time the government plan could win out because it is better. Also, he says how to pay for it. Change the taxes for the ultra rich who have had a free ride for 6 years.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:34 pm“Edwards is a straight shooter. His belief on the major issues correspond with my beliefs.
Comment by rfinca — March 24, 2007 @ 2:31 pm”
Such as?
March 24th, 2007 at 2:36 pmComment by michael — March 24, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Didn’t actually read the article, did you, michael.
Anyone surprised? Hands?
March 24th, 2007 at 2:36 pmCan’t stay connected to the broadcast with Real Player; Not a CNN Pipeline subscriber.
I really wanted to watch this, so hope it is made available in a friendlier manner after the fact.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:37 pm“Fortunately, we’re used to you disappointing us.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 24, 2007 @ 2:29 pm”
And all the hot air on this blog doesn’t disappoint me!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:38 pm“Such as?”
Michael, look them up and then you’ll know. ;)
March 24th, 2007 at 2:38 pmSuch as?
Comment by michael — March 24, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Your question was answered.
Get a life and stop pestering other posters
March 24th, 2007 at 2:39 pmKucinich spoke out against the illegal war four years ago and is the only candidate to speak at the Peace Marches in D.C. He may be shortest candidate, but he has bigger balls than all of the other candidates combined, even Hillary.
So far, he sounds like the only candidate with a credible health care plan with actual backing by health care professionals.
Although, I still say prevention is the key.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI lke Edwards, too, because he’s a straight shooter, and talks in a transparent, clear, honest manner. I’ve read his book, Four Trials that gives a closer look at his character. So does Elizabeth’s memoir, Saving Graces.
I want to hear him address our constitutional crisis (Bush administration says Congress has no role in oversight over the WH; Gonzales says the Constitution doesn’t guarantee habeus corpus).
March 24th, 2007 at 2:42 pm“Michael, look them up and then you’ll know. ;)
Comment by rfinca — March 24, 2007 @ 2:38 pm”
It’s not surprising that you can’t elaborate!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:43 pmkevin and unbee,
Here’s an interesting study on the adverse health effects of cooked food.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:43 pmI’m hoping that there will be a recording of this available, because I came in late and would like to see what I missed.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:46 pmKucinich continues to shine…
He’s got my vote come 2008…regardless of whether or not he’s on the ballot.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:46 pmHillary unquestionably Ruled the debate today. Shes won back my vote from Obama,
March 24th, 2007 at 2:47 pmKucinich is the best! Hands down!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:48 pm“It’s not surprising that you can’t elaborate!”
What’s surprising is that you don’t know how to use “the Google.”
I was right about you trying to pick that fight, wasn’t I? lol!
March 24th, 2007 at 2:49 pmmichael sez:
Given the spirit in which your question was asked, it’s not surprising that rfinca won’t…
March 24th, 2007 at 2:50 pmMy wife and I purchased a juicer after she was diagnosed with her brain tumor.
I’m sorry to hear that…
My uncle has lived with a brain tumor for decades - in part, because he changed his lifestyle for the better - and it never grew any bigger.
98% of all illnesses I see around me can be directly attributed to the food we eat, including diabetes, which Hilary termed an ‘epidemic’.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 24, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
There are atatistics that show that we are the sickest Industrialized Nation in teh world - by a LOT. There has to be a link to what we eat and how sick we are. I’msure there are stress factors also - but as we’ve been saying - those of us who eat better tend to handle the stress better as well.
When I tried to get the junk food (i.e. “laden with addictive ‘high fructose corn syrup’ and other meaningless varieties of carbohydrates) vending machines thrown out of my school, I was given a hard time and told that the school needs the revenue it generates… It’s ALL about money, money, money… And, around here, (I was actually told this) “You’ll get a new and better body in your next life anyway”… Appalling.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:51 pmGrow up!
Comment by michael
Just like that little idiot gnome on that commercial where he plugs an american appliance into a european electricity outlet…
March 24th, 2007 at 2:54 pmComment by michael — March 24, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
You’d think the troll pool would have sent in someone with a little talent for an event like this.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:56 pmHow will ALL candidates insure, no pun intended, that ALL citizens get equal coverage under the law.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:57 pmI gotta say, I’m not on board with this Mike Gravel guy. His plan doesn’t make a lot of since to me. I’m still trying to wrap my head around what he’s getting at.
March 24th, 2007 at 2:59 pmKucinich continues to shine…
He’s got my vote come 2008…regardless of whether or not he’s on the ballot.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
First time I have ever seen him speak … he is a bit quirky… but damnit he said exactly what needed to be said. The medical system was not made into a FOR PROFIT system until the 1960s-70s … that was very long ago people… it was an experiment… the EXPERIMENT FAILED…. it is time to shutdown the medical FOR PROFIT system. We are not talking about building cars or some other industrial business… it is OUR BODIES… being weighed on a scale against the sports car for a insurance company CEO…
March 24th, 2007 at 3:02 pm#142 - Good to see you UB!
March 24th, 2007 at 3:03 pmHere’s an interesting study on the adverse health effects of cooked food.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 24, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Interesting connection… My cats ate some of the recalled food, and out of concern, I have been reading studies on renal failure in cats. It’s appalling the number of issues domesticated cats have as a result of being domesticated. The article you provided furthered this epiphany that domesticating animals has been to their detriment, because we do not feed them properly.
Then consider that really, we aren’t any different than these domesticated cats. Explains a lot…
“The cats eating only raw food were disease free and healthy, generation after generation after generation.
The cats eating the cooked and processed foods had all kinds of problems.
By the end of the first generation the cats started to develop degenerative diseases and became quite lazy.
By the end of the second generation the cats had developed degenerative diseases by mid-life and started losing their coordination.
By the end of the third generation the cats had developed degenerative diseases very early in life and some were born blind and weak and had a much shorter life span. Many of the third generation cats couldn’t even produce offspring. There was an abundance of parasites and vermin while skin diseases and allergies increased from an incidence of five percent in normal cats to over 90 percent in the third generation of deficient cats. Kittens of the third generation did not survive six months. Bones became soft and pliable and the cats suffered from adverse personality changes. Males became docile while females became more aggressive.
The cats suffered from most of the degenerative diseases encountered in human medicine and died out totally by the fourth generation. “
March 24th, 2007 at 3:03 pm“You’d think the troll pool would have sent in someone with a little talent for an event like this.
Comment by Quadrajet — March 24, 2007 @ 2:56 pm”
I asked a simple question that no one will answer. Where will the money come from?
March 24th, 2007 at 3:04 pmYou’d think the troll pool would have sent in someone with a little talent for an event like this.
Comment by Quadrajet — March 24, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
‘Think” is their problem, remember :)
Hey! How are you?
March 24th, 2007 at 3:07 pmMike Gravel has a heart and knows what he is talking about.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:07 pmGood to see you UB!
Comment by Quadrajet — March 24, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
You too!
March 24th, 2007 at 3:09 pmBut, at 40, I look like I’m in my late twenties, and I still have just as much energy.
Me too. I’m 117 and don’t look a day over 32. I believe it is my utter faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Well, that and the Tequila I drink every night!
March 24th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI gotta say, I’m not on board with this Mike Gravel guy. His plan doesn’t make a lot of since to me. I’m still trying to wrap my head around what he’s getting at.
Comment by IgnoranceIsNotBliss
He wants a national referendum system so the PEOPLE can demand that Congress address issues we send up to them. His voucher program is about proving that a person has a health problem and then paying for it. That way hypochondriac dont waste our money and people that are really sick get what they need without some insurance company saying it costs too much.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI asked a simple question that no one will answer. Where will the money come from?
Comment by michael — March 24, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Taxes.
Happy now?
March 24th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI asked a simple question that no one will answer. Where will the money come from?
Comment by michael
You know that little green guy on the lucky charms commercials? He is giving it to us… now go away.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:12 pmI asked a simple question…
Comment by michael,
I asked you two simple questions - you didn’t answer either of them. Is there any reason for that? The answer to that seems self-evident. If you’re trying to disrupt things - it’s not working very well IMO.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:13 pmWould someone turn off the live Real Player at the top of thid thread. The show is over and RP is murder on tabbed browsing under IE.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:14 pmI am still trying to figure out how Gravel’s plan would work. Vouchers? Isn’t that yet another wrinkle to take care of?
And yes, it would be nice to let the people decide -provided the people are given accurate information. I won’t hold my breath, though.
I truly believe that part of the problem, and why health care is so expensive in the US, is the trend towards medicalization of otherwise normal aspects of aging, for example.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:15 pmThanks for hosting this. Will the videos be posted somewhere?
March 24th, 2007 at 3:17 pmI asked a simple question that no one will answer. Where will the money come from?
Comment by michael — March 24, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Since these candidates will stop the war, (except Clinton)
March 24th, 2007 at 3:19 pmthen the money will come from the Iraq war fund.
We will save TONS of money!
I am still trying to figure out how Gravel’s plan would work. Vouchers? Isn’t that yet another wrinkle to take care of?
Comment by Gregor Samsa
It sounded like he is saying lets let people whos jobs are to weed out the hypochondriacs and the boob job people and everyone else get what they need period. The insurance companies would no longer be the ones deciding when they are more interested in $$$profits than our bodies and fairness.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:19 pmMe too. I’m 117 and don’t look a day over 32. I believe it is my utter faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Well, that and the Tequila I drink every night!
Comment by superman — March 24, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Your petty jealousy of other people’s happiness and well-being is utterly staggering… But not surprising.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:20 pmIs anyone looking at Canada’s successful program to answer our needs? If they have something that is working (and they do, trolls), then shouldn’t we consider it as well?
March 24th, 2007 at 3:23 pm98% of all illnesses I see around me can be directly attributed to the food we eat, including diabetes, which Hilary termed an ‘epidemic’.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 24, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
I agree. Obesity has also been labeled an “epidemic” -if I recall correctly, studies have linked obesity to diabetes.
Also, I believe environmental factors are at play. Recently, my wife and I attended her 20th (I think it was 20th) high school reunion. Her high school is in a small town, in an agricultural area. I was surprised to find out how many of her former classmates have been diagnosed with, treated for, tumor and cancer of all kinds: brain, throat, lungs, etc. Really nasty stuff.
I strongly suspect exposure to chemicals and pesticides must have had something to do with the prevalence of such problems. Not that preventive medicine would make any difference to them, unfortunately.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:25 pmThanks Gerald.
You are right, that could be what Gravel was talking about.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:27 pmIs anyone looking at Canada’s successful program to answer our needs? If they have something that is working (and they do, trolls), then shouldn’t we consider it as well?
Comment by unbelievable — March 24, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Good point.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:28 pmHillary said the new software system for streamlining the information exchange (thereby reducing costs by alot) would cost around $200 million… that is untrue. There are alot of programmers that write code for free whether it be open source or just to post on websites for the benefit of all. These programmers would love to write software for such a nobel cause.. I am a big Microsoft follower myself but it is very true that very nice software has been made by open source people… and if it is for America? And if it is branded as “patriotic” then we would not need the $200 million… that money could be spent on the hardware and maintenance.
And even if the open source route (which should be done for voting also) is not taken $200 million is way over what a decentralized XML information exchange would cost. I built a similar system for Indiana’s Gaming Commision which keeps track of all employees that get hired at the casinos (FBI background checks, badging, and cross casino employee tracking) for about $40,000.
I know this to be true because it is my business to know… it is my career and I have been doing it professionally for 13 years and unprofessionally much longer.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:29 pmIt was wonderful to see and hear these candidates’ views on this important issue. There is NOTHING like this offered on TV. The airwaves are supposed to belong to the people, but what we get on TV now is mostly pure junk or propaganda. The media profiteers are in the same class as the health insurance profiteers. How can we get a major network to rebroadcast this, so that it can been seen by people who don’t have computers or the capacity for realplayer? All you readers, please join me in asking ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS to do this!
March 24th, 2007 at 3:30 pmWe will save TONS of money!
Comment by casper the ghost
Actually that money is all being borrowed from countries like Saudi Arabia and China… we need to stop the war just to stop going further into dept… if we work smarter (computer systems) and not harder (paper systems and too many middle man insurance companies) then we can save enough to make a huge difference… and when people can just go to a normal doctor instead of waiting till they must go to the emergency room then ALOT more money will be saved.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:31 pmGravel’s plan is actually the best one. vouchers are a very good idea in that it is basically socialized medicine for everyone, but we still get to choose our provider and doctor.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:32 pmunbelievable,
Long time, no see.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:37 pmAs someone said above, a lot of our health issues could be taken care of with exercise and eating right. This country is consumed with fast food. The last time I ate in a fast food place was when I was a child and the last time I drank a soda was about a year ago, and it was half a can. It’s not hard, eat right and exercise and we’ll have the pharmaceutical companies running around trying to figure out what to do next. That should take care of part of the problem with healthcare.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:38 pmReal Player does not work on my Mac with the latest OS. I really hate Real Player, and hope that future events use better technology. There’s gotta be some open source alternatives to to his crap. Please post highlights at YouTube.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:49 pmThis country is consumed with fast food. Comment by rfinca
Yes it is. Both physically and mentally thanks to mainsteam media. As they say - we are what we eat. Consume nothing and get nothing in return so rich people can get richer. Pathetic. For anyone who hasn’t seen it, I highly recommend: Super Size Me
March 24th, 2007 at 3:50 pmFor those who oppose taxes to fund universal healthcare: you already
March 24th, 2007 at 3:51 pmspend a bundle on health insurance premiums and co-pays.
If you have a chronic illness, no matter how benign it may be, you will
save buckets of money paying taxes rather than private insurance costs.
Federal, single-payer health care may very well save you money. It will
certainly take an unnecessary burden away from employers, make
them more competitive, and save them money that they can give back to you as a well-deserved raise!
Super Size Me
Comment by EvilPoet
I also highly recommend that movie, EvilPoet. If anyone is having a hard time giving up fast food, Supersize Me is the cure. :P
March 24th, 2007 at 3:55 pmYou guys complaining about real player have got to be kidding me.
Real player has been around forever. I use it on dozens of different systems and have for years and have never had an issue. While its true the defaults do permit popups and such, you can easily disable these features.
Hundreds of millions of people use it every day with no issues, and it is the defacto standard for real time streaming media. 9 times out of 10, problems with such a mainstream easy to use program are end user related.
I am not trying to be cynical, its just that TP goes to the trouble of setting this up, and so many peopl are just coming in and bitching because they can’t figure out how to use it correctly.
Real Player works fine.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:57 pmReal Player works on my Mac using Safari with the latest OS.
March 24th, 2007 at 3:58 pmSuper Size Me is a great documentary and really shows you what that crap does to your body.
March 24th, 2007 at 4:10 pmReal Player works fine.
Comment by I WORFEUS
90% of the people on the Internet use Internet Explorer which means that they also most likely have WMV player… and of coarse Flash Video Player is even more ubiquitous… Real Player was a dumb choice. Even QuickTime would have been better.
Why would this be targeted to the 10% instead of the 90%?
March 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pmSuper Size Me is a great documentary and really shows you what that crap does to your body.
Comment by rfinca
I thought it was a joke… who eats McDonalds like that?
March 24th, 2007 at 4:24 pmThanks, RealNetworks for setting up the free feed for the forum. I just wish your system worked better. At least one answer by EVERY candidate was garbled by lost data, and I have cable internet. I was just as satisfied with your streaming video as usual…
As for the discussion today, there were no big revelations. Each candidate staked out basically the same position with minor tweaks with three exceptions: Barak Obama, Dennis Kucinich and Gravel. Barak’s answer was “still working on it, give me a few more weeks” (roughly paraphrased). Kucinich came in with is Medicare for All plan — which, IMHO beats the rest hands down, but has the practical problem of needing both Dennis to win the primary / general elections AND getting 60 votes in the Senate. Gravel has an interesting notion, but he seemed somewhat contradictory on wanting to get rid of private health insurance profits and yet having some competition between plans under his “voucher” system.
I plan to support Kucinich in the primary — unless, when unvailed a few weeks from now, Obama’s plan is very much like Medicare for all and not so much like the other bandaids being proposed. I was really hoping he would use the platform today to unvail it, but alas no… still waiting!
March 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pmUNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS NOW!!!!! STARTING WITH THE POOREST, THEN THE MIDDLE CLASS, AND THE RICH LAST, OF COURSE!!!!!
March 24th, 2007 at 4:36 pmI thought it was a joke… who eats McDonalds like that?
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 24, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
No one eats McDonalds like that, but I don’t believe that’s the point. Putting all those calories and saturated fats in your body, even if it’s a couple of times a week without exercise cannot be good for your body.
March 24th, 2007 at 4:45 pmcouple of times a week without exercise cannot be good for your body.
Comment by rfinca
Neither is breathing oxygen… it causes free radicals in your blood stream which can break down your cells causing aging and sometimes even cancer.
Everyone has the right to smoke, drink alcohol, take drugs of various kinds, and eat shit every once in a while.
Too much of anything is stupid.
March 24th, 2007 at 4:56 pmThe last time that I touched base with MS, they admitted that the problem was theirs and no fix was available. The last time my system dropped IE, there was no admission where the problem laid. That generally means that they have found the problem and it is not theirs. MS as a matter of policy does not share their findings with outside providers. When I worked at IBM, we set up a conference call with the outside vendor and laid the problem out. That information was never shared with the customer. On some occassions where only software was the culprit, we would let the outside vendor ride our update process. That was not entirely for autistic reasons - we wanted to be sure that no new conflicts were introduced by our own changes.
March 24th, 2007 at 5:02 pm90% of the people on the Internet use Internet Explorer which means that they also most likely have WMV player… and of coarse Flash Video Player is even more ubiquitous… Real Player was a dumb choice. Even QuickTime would have been better.
Why would this be targeted to the 10% instead of the 90%?
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 24, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
The reason 90 percent of the people on the internet use Internet Explorer, is because it comes preinstalled on any IBM compatible PC running windows. Windows Media Player does likewise. But what you didn’t mention is most new PC’s come preconfigured with Real Player already installed. If you don’t have it, its a free, easy download.
Quicktime is ok, but it doesn’t always provide full screen viewing, and likewise, may need to be installed.
What I am saying is Gerald, that Real Player, is a simple, standard program that is not hard to get, and most people already have it installed.
I personally have never, ever had a problem using real player, and millions of people use it all the time with no isses.
Calling it a “dumb” choice is just not an accurate statement.
I won’t call the people dumb who don’t know how to use it correctly, but come on. Do you really think TP is dumb for showing a real time streaming video in the most popular and mainstream decoder there is?
I come in here, and the FIRST posts I see are people Bitching cause they can’t figure out how to use a simple media player.
I just get tired of the bitching.
March 24th, 2007 at 5:07 pmToo much of anything is stupid.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 24, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Except for eating healthy,