“GO BACK TO AFRICA
By on Mar 26th, 2007 at 11:41 am
“GO BACK TO AFRICA
AND DO YOUR GAY VOODOO LIMBO TANGO AND WANGO DANCE AND JUMP AROUND AND PRANCE AND RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE HALF NAKED THERE.” — U.S. Army recruiter Sgt. Marcia Ramode, using her military email address to respond to Jersey City resident Corey Andrew, after Ramode learned Andrew was gay.
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Wow…issues, anyone?
I’m wondering if this still falls under the auspices of “defending the military’s policy” like Pace supposedly was doing.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:44 amAh…. feel the compassion!!
March 26th, 2007 at 11:45 amHere COMES Daryll dumbest mofo on TP…….
March 26th, 2007 at 11:45 amHmm … homophobic AND racist.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:46 amUmmm…… HATARI??!!
March 26th, 2007 at 11:46 amI’m sure we’ll hear from Revs. Sharpton and Jackson any second now…..Remember when this was a great country?
the case up to Ramode’s commander for “review, investigation and appropriate action.”
Conclusion: Since General Pace said the same think, its okay. Carry onward Christian soldier.
Also loved the comment about going back to Africa. Double the bigotry for the price of one.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:49 amProblem is, this is how right wingers talk ALL the time.
The ONLY time they don’t talk this way is when the camera’s are on them.
Its time to expose the pigs for what they are.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:50 amWow…what an idiot. Even for a bigot, that was just stupid to use an official email for that.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:50 amNo, I would never suggest we email Ms Ramode about this.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:53 amWe should all be grateful she is “recruiting” instead of defending any of us.
It’s that positive attitude of hers that gets her so many recruits no doubt.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:54 amES sez:
You don’t have to be smart to be a neocon brown-shirt.
Fierce, unwavering loyalty unto death is the only requirement.
Actually, intelligence and rational thought are discouraged, as they interfere with the above one requirement.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:55 amShe claims to be a native american if true I wonder what tribe. (eastern Cherokee I’ll bet)
She would get away with the anti-gay diatribe but telling a black guy to go back to Africa, in writing,. from her USAREC account she can kiss E-6 good-bye.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:58 amIf she has something on her mind, she should just come out and say it. Enough of this beating around the bush.
March 26th, 2007 at 11:58 amInteresting, how the images of the emails in the linked article had Andrew’s email addy blanked, but not Ramode’s.
Something tells me that Ramode’s email address is going to become rather useless over the next few days… ^_^
March 26th, 2007 at 12:00 pmC’mon everyone! Get on your feet and do the “GAY VOODOO LIMBO TANGO AND WANGO DANCE”!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:02 pmNo, I would never suggest we email Ms Ramode about this.
Comment by druidbros
Good because a coordinate cyber attack against her would make this idiot a victim. You want to write someone email your congresss-critter and your local newspaper. Ask them why this tye of bigotry and Racism inside the Army is not a big story to them.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:03 pmThat was awesome. She destroyed that libby. Although it was lacking a good spear chucking joke.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:04 pmSounds like she wants out of the military. -That ought to do it
March 26th, 2007 at 12:04 pmSome days I can’t believe this is the 21st century… Feels more like the times of witch burnings.
Simply appalling that these people think they have the right to harass others who aren’t just like them, who don’t want what they want or who have a different view of the world. Not surprising, but still, it’s disgusting.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:05 pmw o w …
it’s like it could be the wife or sister of some of our most repugnant trolls who visit and remind us that such people do exist…
there it is, in black and white… raging STOOPIDITY…
March 26th, 2007 at 12:06 pmThe recruiter contacted Andrew first from what I read. I’d like to see the earlier exchanges.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:06 pmLooks like Ramode and Ann Coulter are on the same page…
March 26th, 2007 at 12:06 pmDUHmerica’s “Best and Brightest” huh?
I’ll say…
March 26th, 2007 at 12:06 pmSounds like she wants out of the military. -That ought to do it
I was thinking the same thing. This is a solider that wants OUT of the military. This is about as sure-fire dismissal as one could ask for. “Honorable discharge”, I’m sure.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:08 pmIf you look at the account in the Jersey city newspaper, you’ll see that the gay man is not entirely blameless–he goaded her into this by telling her to “go do a rain dance.” I think the recruiter should be fired–but I also think the guy is partly at fault here
March 26th, 2007 at 12:10 pmYou made your child an idiot. We’ll make him Army Dumb.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:10 pmI shouldn’t really be surprised, but DAMN!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:11 pmHoly crap. That’s sick.
I’m pretty sure her recruiting days are over. Thank goodness.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:11 pmIs is true that the WH is working on a new piece of legislation titled, “The GWB Federal Employees Communications Act of 2007?” Sources close to people who know people and work at Faux News tell other sources that the bill will forbid communications between all federal employees by these methods:
1. E-mail
2. Written correspondence
3. Telephone calls
4. Telegrams
5. Faxes
6. Video
7. Any other form of communication which can be viewed,
heard, observed or in any way shared with someone
other than the original sender and receiver.
Allowed Communications for all federal employees are as follows:
1. Face to face in a locked room with total security and
March 26th, 2007 at 12:11 pmcurrently certified by the DHS within the past 3 days.
2. No federal employee may make any recording of
secure communication of any kind. Notes, records,
video, photos or any permanent records are not
allowed.
3. Should anyone ask if communication occurred between
federal employees the authorized response is, “This is
a national security issue and cannot be
acknowledged.”
4. Violations of this law will be referred to the office of the
Vice-President for appropriate sanctions. If referred
for a violation, please bring your hunting gear but no
weapon.
Although the entire content of Ramode’s hateful screeds was offensive and deplorable, two phrases in particular jumped out and slapped me in the face:
These two statements demonstrate graphically that this person is unqualified to wear the uniform of a U.S. soldier.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:12 pmFred sez:
Heh…that honestly hadn’t occurred to me. Perhaps she’s smarter than we’re giving her credit for. ^_^
March 26th, 2007 at 12:13 pm#25 there are always two sides to a story. What’s the name of the paper? Regardless of what was said the recruiter was the one that made the contact and Andrew’s let him know where he stood. Sounds like they didn’t care for each others view.
Rain dancing and gay voodoo limbo dancing won’t cure this. Would be interesting to see though.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:15 pmI mean, whats the surprise? If there was a girl pointing at some arab guy´s genitals while smiling in front of a camera in Abu Ghraib, whats the surprise?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:15 pmI think the recruiter should be fired–but I also think the guy is partly at fault here
Comment by mike — March 26, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
She pursued him… He was minding his own busines when she contacted him. The fault is entirely hers for intruding into his life, uninvited.
Also, you cannot control anyone but yourself. Regardless of his responses, hers were unprofessional and way over the line. She deserves the consequences she gets for the actions she chose – which should be a dismissal from the US government.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:16 pmI read the article….and the recruiter is probably history…..the one thing that was missing for me were the emails from the “recruit” that the recruiter was responding to. Did I miss them somewhere?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:18 pmTMM @ 30
But you would be surprised (well maybe yu wouldn’t) by how many service members hold that view.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:18 pmComment by SouthWest Bob — March 26, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
Southwest Bob, I’m having trouble locating pending legislation like that which you describe. Where did you hear of this? Got a link?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:19 pmPerhaps she’s smarter than we’re giving her credit for.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 26, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
Yeah, with the typing in all caps, rampant spelling and grammar errors, and general bigotry and ignorance, I’m sure that’s it :)
March 26th, 2007 at 12:19 pmI think gay voodoo limbo mambo dancing would be much more entertaining to watch than a rain dance! Let’s put them both on Idol and let America decide.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:22 pmWow…what an idiot. Even for a bigot, that was just stupid to use an official email for that.
Comment by ES — March 26, 2007 @ 11:50 am
Yea but aren’t you glad she did?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:22 pmYOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH WAS GIVENM [SIC] TO YOU BY THE US MILITARY
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Thanks for this one, TMM. The sad thing is that people buy this thing. I remember the movie A few good men, when Nicholson´s character said in the trial that he was protecting US citizen´s freedoms or something like that.
People really think this is true. Protecting from who? Cubans? (Nicholson´s character was a general in Guantanamo) How many times Cuba invaded US? Granada? 6,000 US soldiers against 40 railway cuban workers? NIcaragua? Vietnam? And people keep buying this really cheap stuff. So, the logic here is that US has to invade or bomb countries so US citizens can keep having their freedom of speech? This is ridiculous.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:22 pmNow, wait a minute: Isn’t it well-known right wing rocker Ted Nudgent who does a half-naked wango-tango dance?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:23 pmHow did Ramode “learn” he was gay? Did she catch a peek at his iPod playlist that was loaded with Madonna, Cher and The Pet Shop Boys? Or did he just ask a reasoned, thoughtful quesion which would of course give him away.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:24 pmTheres a bigger picture here.
This isn’t about “one lone racist”.
What Mr Kamode is showing us is the tip of the proverbial ice berg.
MOST neocons think, and talk this way.
How do I know?
:|
Cause in person, they think I’m one of them.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:24 pmBut you would be surprised (well maybe yu wouldn’t) by how many service members hold that view.
Comment by klyde — March 26, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
See ‘Borat’? Embarrassing what the general public thinks. Even more embarrassing as to why. It’s a religious dictate that has created this division of hatred and refusal to accept others. And it stems from the Judeo-Christo-Islamic tree of Middle Eastern ideology.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:24 pmYeah, with the typing in all caps, rampant spelling and grammar errors
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
Its amazing that this illiterate is actually a US Military recruiter.
Maybe the next big DoD contract should be with “Hooked-on-Phonics”.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:26 pmKlydes right.
There is a division in this country that is real. Right wing self righteous so called “christians”, who are as racist and bigoted as any member of the Nazi Party ever was.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:27 pmCause in person, they think I’m one of them.
Comment by I WORFEUS — March 26, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
It’s the haircut isn’t it? ; )
March 26th, 2007 at 12:28 pmThe Sergeant shouldn’t have told him to go back to Africa. She should’ve sent him to the the nearest church that practices holiness.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:28 pmI’m not shocked that a lowly recruiter might have some psychological issues, be a bigot, a homophobe, and/or a self-righteous Bible thumper. What bugs the crap out of me is that the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is all those things rolled into one. It all starts at the top and flows from there.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:28 pmI can’t believe my ears! And it’s coming from a Porto Rican no less!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:29 pmWell there’s a brand new dance and it’s going around
The Gay Voodoo Limbo Tango and Wango Dance
You hips start to move when you hear that sound
The Gay Voodoo Limbo Tango and Wango Dance…
I smell platinum!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:31 pmIts amazing that this illiterate is actually a US Military recruiter.
I was thinking that also when I read the article, but then I remembered that they lowered the qualifications for recruits on intelligence, therefore they probably had to lower them on recruiters so that they could actually find recruiters who still support this illegal and immoral war…
Maybe the next big DoD contract should be with “Hooked-on-Phonicsâ€.
Comment by I WORFEUS — March 26, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
LOL.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:32 pm“Its amazing that this illiterate is actually a US Military recruiter.” – - Sadly, it’s not amazing in the least.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:32 pmThe Sergeant shouldn’t have told him to go back to Africa. She should’ve sent him to the the nearest church that practices holiness.
Comment by Daryll
A church like that probably is in Africa. Sure isn’t anywhere around here from what I have seen.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:33 pmSee ‘Borat’? Embarrassing what the general public thinks.
Comment by unbelievable
That movie made me cringe — obviously — but the worst parts were when he was getting over on the unaware public, and they were just being themselves for the cute “foreigner.” I wanted to crawl under my seat when those people would open their mouths. The rodeo & pentacostals come to mind. Geez.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:33 pmIt’s the haircut isn’t it? ; )
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Yea.
And the tatts.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:34 pmShe should’ve sent him to the the nearest church that practices holiness.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Of course you show up- it’s a thread about gays.
You still attempting to claim that the church has cured your gayness Daryll? We still don’t believe you.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:34 pmDaryll, you’re late.
Souls have been lost.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:34 pmI mean, whats the surprise?…
Comment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
not surprised… that in itself is sad …
you made a good point… it seems pervasive…
March 26th, 2007 at 12:35 pmthere’s no good excuse in today’s world…
“Southwest Bob, I’m having trouble locating pending legislation like that which you describe. Where did you hear of this? Got a link?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 26, 2007 @ 12:19 pm”
TMM, here is what I found….
There were many states doing this. The latest, NM was shot down so that one did not make it. But I believe CA, WA, OR, VA, ME, and a few others were voting on articles of Impeachment to send to Congress.
One thing that was wrong with SWB’s statement that the states could Impeach Bush…. That is NOT correct! Only the Congress can. But the States can push the Congress to do it and it holds more weight when they do….
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4427.cfm
March 26th, 2007 at 12:36 pmThis doesn’t sound like an Army recruiter. This sounds like an 11-year-old script kid.
Someone’s computer system looks really hackable.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:36 pmThe rodeo & pentacostals come to mind. Geez.
Comment by Zooey — March 26, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Borat: “I support your War of Terror”
Rodeo audience: “Yay!!” (sheering and applause)
Idiots.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAh Daryll, as always unable to resist the siren song of a post with a gay component.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:38 pmRodeo audience: “Yay!!†(sheering and applause)
Comment by unbelievable
The audience had sheep in the stands? That is a weird crowd. ;)
March 26th, 2007 at 12:40 pmInteresting that Daryll was offended by the “go back to Africa” comments, but was willing to support and join in on the “gay is wrong” comments. Typical hypocrisy of the Religious Right for you…
March 26th, 2007 at 12:41 pmPam’s House Blend has the full e-mail exchange up in PDF. In his email, after she contacted him, he ask if he can enlist as a gay man that is when she becomes insulting and abusive. She told him to go “back” to africa well before he made his rain dance crack. Check it!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pmComment by RemoveBush — March 26, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Thanks for the info, RB, but that’s not what Southwest Bob and I were discussing. Check out his original post.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pmThe Sergeant shouldn’t have told him to go back to Africa. She should’ve sent him to the the nearest church that practices holiness.
Comment by Daryll
How does sticking someone is the closet cure gayness? It didn’t work for Haggard now did it? Besides this statement was more racist than it was about sexual prefs.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:43 pmFor those that don’t believe that God stated that homosexuality is a sin, please read the following scriptures:
Genesis 19
Leviticus 18.22
Leviticus 20.13
Judges 19.22-26
Romans 1.26-27, 32
Corinthians 6.9-10 &
St. Jude 1.7
Also, our heterosexual conversion retreat is coming up. If you want to attend or know some one that needs to attend, please email me for the specifics at lanierd2003@yahoo.com
March 26th, 2007 at 12:47 pm“Thanks for the info, RB, but that’s not what Southwest Bob and I were discussing. Check out his original post.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 26, 2007 @ 12:42 pm”
Ohh…. My bad….
I saw that but thought you were refering to the impeachment stuff….
Carry on….. :)
March 26th, 2007 at 12:48 pmInteresting that Daryll was offended by the “go back to Africa†comments, but was willing to support and join in on the “gay is wrong†comments. Typical hypocrisy of the Religious Right for you…
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
I’m an Amercan so I’m living in a country where I’m considered a born citizen, not naturalized.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:48 pmNot only homophobic and racist, but very poor writing skills.
All caps too. I wonder if she has a closet door that needs fixing?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:48 pmSomeone’s computer system looks really hackable.
Comment by Paul
Not really, emails are easy to spoof, all one needs is a open email server and enough common sense to use telnet and the Google.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:49 pmThe Sergeant shouldn’t have told him to go back to Africa. She should’ve sent him to the the nearest church that practices holiness.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:50 pmComment by Saint Daryll (aka 2 second man) — March 26, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
wow, here’s a surprise. Our own pseudochristian, Daryll, posting on a thread that deals with homophabia, and mentions the word a$$ no less than 3 times in the hate filled email.
Huh, whoda thunk?
PS Daryll, as a supposed black man, you should feel extremely upset about her boogie woogie wango tango dancing reference, as well as her idiotic statement of “go back to Africa”. That’s if you were black, of course.
The audience had sheep in the stands? That is a weird crowd. ;)
Comment by dlet — March 26, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
cheering… Better? :)
March 26th, 2007 at 12:50 pmIs daryll just stupid or is he a dishonest hack?
Oh wait those two things aren’t mutually exclusive.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:51 pmSouthwest Bob, I’m having trouble locating pending legislation like that which you describe. Where did you hear of this? Got a link?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 26, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
TripMaster Monkey….. Sorry for any confusion. . . this is purely a satire on the mind set on how far I think the current mis-administration would be willing to go to protect their actions. Sorry for the confusion. . . it must have been the extra cup of coffee this morning!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:51 pmour heterosexual conversion retreat is coming up.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:52 pmComment by Saint “early shooter” Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
why? Do you need conversion over to heterosexuality? Well, I guess that explains your constant, misguided postings dealing with a$$es!!!
The Sergeant shouldn’t have told him to go back to Africa. She should’ve sent him to the the nearest church that practices holiness.
Comment by Daryll
A church like that probably is in Africa. Sure isn’t anywhere around here from what I have seen.
Comment by dlet — March 26, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Please visit my home church . Pastor Jennings informs his flock about true holiness, per biblical standards. I hope that by visiting this site that you are truly blessed, and it changes your life.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:53 pmShe almost could get away with it too–but the Army at least has rules against racial discrimination. Her career is over for half the right reasons.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:53 pm#70 Daryll
I hate to break it to you, but God did not write the bible, men did. And men, as we all know are incapable of understanding the true will of God. To preach such is to act in direct opposition and claim omnipotence for ones self which is in fact reserved for God only. If God has a problem with someones lifestyle, then they will be judged when their soul makes the final journey. It is not for any of us, mere mortals, to be judging our fellows. We are, in short, mentally and spiritually incapable of making such judgments.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:53 pmFor those that don’t believe that God stated that homosexuality is a sin, please read the following scriptures
1. Prove there is a god
2. Prove that that god wrote a book
3. Prove that that book is the Bible
Also, our heterosexual conversion retreat is coming up. If you want to attend or know some one that needs to attend, please email me for the specifics at lanierd2003@yahoo.com
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
A person cannot convert their sexual orientation anymore than you can convert your skin color.
Go away. Your intolerance and bigotry is not welcomed here.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:54 pm#70. Which God to you refer to Daryll?? And which version of which Christian bible do your quotes come from?? I dont believe in an entity whose existence cannot be proven, or do I believe in a book that has had so many interpretatons and re-writes as your “bible”
March 26th, 2007 at 12:55 pmHeres one that needs to attend Daryll.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:55 pmMerrill Robert Barter: The Republican County Commissioner pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
I’m an Amercan so I’m living in a country where I’m considered a born citizen, not naturalized.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
So?
You find it offensive to tell blacks to leave America, because you are one and are offended that you aren’t welcomed here by certain non-black people… But then not only can you not apply your feelings of insult to the exact same bigotry bestowed on other oppressed and hated people (gaus), but you actually JOIN IN!
Your Bible also says that you should be a slave, Daryll.
Be careful what you support for condemning one group of people…. For you clearly don’t realize what it says about YOU.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:57 pmDarryl did you actually just refer to yourself as a sheeple? [Flock]
March 26th, 2007 at 12:58 pmThe Sergeant shouldn’t have told him to go back to Africa. She should’ve sent him to the the nearest church that practices holiness.
Comment by Saint Daryll (aka 2 second man) — March 26, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
wow, here’s a surprise. Our own pseudochristian, Daryll, posting on a thread that deals with homophabia, and mentions the word a$$ no less than 3 times in the hate filled email.
Huh, whoda thunk?
PS Daryll, as a supposed black man, you should feel extremely upset about her boogie woogie wango tango dancing reference, as well as her idiotic statement of “go back to Africaâ€. That’s if you were black, of course.
Comment by DRxJ — March 26, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
Idiotic comments do not rattle me. Also, she actually complimented our community as well by considering us as great dancers. There’s alot of artistic culture within our community. Also, I don’t consider myself as a black/african american man. I’m not the color of tar, nor was I born in Africa. I’m a human and an American.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:59 pmPlease visit my home church .
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
I wholly support everyone reading any one of the Bibles… After all, that garbage is exactly why I became an Atheist.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:00 pmAlso, our heterosexual conversion retreat is coming up.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
What are you converting heterosexuals into Daryll and why?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:01 pmIdiotic comments do not rattle me.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Yes, we know. You make them all the time.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:03 pm#80
Comment by Daryll
I wouldn’t touch that link no matter how much you paid me. Thanks but no thanks.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:05 pmOne thing about Sodom. All references to the destruction of Sodom relate to the people being disrespectful to god and othere things but nowhere in the Bible does it say they were destroyed for being homosexual. That was an interpretation made by the church in the 11th century.
I’m an Amercan so I’m living in a country where I’m considered a born citizen, not naturalized.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
So?
You find it offensive to tell blacks to leave America, because you are one and are offended that you aren’t welcomed here by certain non-black people… But then not only can you not apply your feelings of insult to the exact same bigotry bestowed on other oppressed and hated people (gaus), but you actually JOIN IN!
Your Bible also says that you should be a slave, Daryll.
Be careful what you support for condemning one group of people…. For you clearly don’t realize what it says about YOU.
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
Unbelievable, the bible stated that Africans should be considered as slaves. Please do not misinterpret the bible. Thats like me stating that all caucasian people should return to Europe.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:05 pmIdiotic comments do not rattle me.
You would consider realism and intelligent in comments as idiot…
Also, she actually complimented our community as well by considering us as great dancers. There’s alot of artistic culture within our community.
You spin better than O’Reilly…
Also, I don’t consider myself as a black/african american man. I’m not the color of tar, nor was I born in Africa.
It doesn’t matter to these people what YOU think… All they see is that you are black.
I’m a human and an American.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
So are the gay people you harass…
Hypocrite
March 26th, 2007 at 1:06 pmWhatever happened to 25 years ago, when it was “no, we aren’t homosexual, but we are willing to learn!” “Yeah, would they send us to a special school, like at Fort Dix?”
March 26th, 2007 at 1:06 pmSo Daryll tell me about Lilith?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:07 pmAlso, she actually complimented our community as well by considering us as great dancers. Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Glad that idiotic comments don’t rattle you Daryll, bwahahahahahaha!
March 26th, 2007 at 1:08 pm“Unbelievable, the bible stated that Africans should be considered as slaves. Please do not misinterpret the bible. Thats like me stating that all caucasian people should return to Europe.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 1:05 pm”
Show me where the bible makes any such statement!
March 26th, 2007 at 1:10 pmAlso, I don’t consider myself as a black/african american man. I’m not the color of tar, nor was I born in Africa.
That doesn’t sound like anything any AA’s I know would say.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:11 pmUnbelievable, the bible stated that Africans should be considered as slaves.
And you still support it?
You are of African heritage – that means that you qualify in the minds of those who would enslave you.
Please do not misinterpret the bible.
I didn’t. You even confirmed that I didn’t.
Thats like me stating that all caucasian people should return to Europe.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
Because that is in the Bible? After all, you don’t have any thoughts of your own. You aren’t allowed…
Funny, but the US didn’t exist when it was written, now did it…
March 26th, 2007 at 1:13 pmoh, and one more thing, dearest St.Daryll, envyer of the gluteus maximus region,
when did you decide that being turned on by the male anatomy was not as exciting as the female anatomy? I mean, since homosexuality is a choice, and you chose hetero over homo (or so you say), when did you choose that your homo tendencies wasn’t as much fun?
Just curious…
I, for one, don’t believe it’s a choice.
PS, you quote Leviticus. Do you not touch your new wife, during her time of the month? Also, do you not eat shell fish?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:13 pmOne more question, since you never answered previously. Am I going to hell, since my wife is once divorced?
Hmm … homophobic AND racist.
Comment by K — March 26, 2007 @ 11:46 am
Neocons would call it a twofer.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:15 pm#80
Comment by Daryll
I wouldn’t touch that link no matter how much you paid me. Thanks but no thanks.
One thing about Sodom. All references to the destruction of Sodom relate to the people being disrespectful to god and othere things but nowhere in the Bible does it say they were destroyed for being homosexual. That was an interpretation made by the church in the 11th century.
Comment by dlet — March 26, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
Dlet, you didn’t read the other scriptures within my comment. These scriputres prove that homosexuality was considered a sin by God.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:17 pmGo away. Your intolerance and bigotry is not welcomed here.
Comment by unbelievable
neither are you,from some of the comments i’ve read about you of late.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:17 pmThese scriputres prove that homosexuality was considered a sin by God.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Prove there is a god.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:20 pmHey UB:) Don’t know what this ‘just sayin’s’ trip is, but don’t beleive it – always good to see you my friend.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:23 pmneither are you,from some of the comments i’ve read about you of late.
Comment by just sayin’ — March 26, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
As usual, nothing to add to the conversation… Just your usual excessively petty and jealous need to vilify me to feel better about your obviously miserable self. LOL
March 26th, 2007 at 1:23 pmWhat Sterile Daryll feign omissionis the FACT that over 150 of God’s species engage in homosexual behavior. Are they sinning too. Do you know more than God?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:23 pmGod formed Lilith, the first woman, born out of the same pure dust as Adam.
See Daryll we are all from the same cosmic dust. In fact cosmic dust accreates upon Earth even today. =)
Please visit my home church .
Comment by Daryll
Why? We are all the same. Right?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:24 pmAlso, I don’t consider myself as a black/african american man. I’m not the color of tar, nor was I born in Africa.
That doesn’t sound like anything any AA’s I know would say.
Comment by Zep Tepi — March 26, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
Because most individuals within my community are ignorant regarding the categorizing of race and culture. Black was a term used to demean us during the slave days. Also, we weren’t born in Africa nor did we become naturalized U.S. citizens. We are american citizens.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:24 pmDlet, you didn’t read the other scriptures within my comment. These scriputres prove that homosexuality was considered a sin by God.
Comment by Daryll
I wanted to discuss one of the items and that item does not support your statement.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:25 pmThe recruiters’ comments were disgusting and inflammatory, and she should be discharged from the military immediately.
But have you ever noticed the hate spewing from many of TP’s posters?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:25 pmDARYLL PLEASE ADDRESS OR HAVE YOUR PASTOR RESPOND
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:25 pmHey UB:) Don’t know what this ‘just sayin’s’ trip is, but don’t beleive it – always good to see you my friend.
Comment by Quadrajet — March 26, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
Hi there… You’re so sweet. Always good to see you as well! And all you’re hilarious comments :)
March 26th, 2007 at 1:28 pmharass Daryll if you must, but he has the right attitude; instead of calling himself an African American he just refers to himself as an American… what’s wrong with that?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:29 pmWell speaks alot for our military soldiers overseas. If that statement is to be followed. America will be left with what it started Indians only. As everyone is a descent of other lands looks like we’ll be clearing out like the people of Iraq. Maybe King George will be able to rule once he fights the Indians again to steal their land.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:29 pmWe are american citizens.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
So are the gay people that you try to force your way upon.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:30 pmDale sez:
First of all, Dale, yes I have. I see it from you and your fellow trolls daily. (Yes yes, I know…too easy…but I had to. ^_^)
Second, and more seriously, Dale, there is a very big difference between anonymous posts on a public discussion board and an official email from an Army recruiter. Even you must acknowledge this fundamental difference in the venues.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:31 pmBut have you ever noticed the hate spewing from many of TP’s posters? Comment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
We notice your hate daily. What’s your point wingnut?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:31 pmBut have you ever noticed the hate spewing from many of TP’s posters?
Comment by Dale
You mean like that lady on TV who wants to poison judges?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:34 pmwhat’s wrong with that?
Comment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Nothing. The problem is that he comes here and spews anti-gay hatred and intolerance. We’re trying to show him that there’s no difference between someone hating him for being black and him hating others for being gay.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:34 pmThe entire exchange can be found here.
http://www.pamspaulding.com/graphics/Ramode_Andrew_emails_SLDN.pdf
Seems the recruiter had her meltdown early in the thread. After reading the e-mail thread, it seems Mr. Andrews might have baited the Recruiter in his initial response, but he managed to keep it fairly civil and literate the whole way through. The Recruiter, however, will be court martialed and hopefully not instructing an internetiquette course anytime soon.
Theresa (the PDFs don’t redact her contact telephone numbers, either).
March 26th, 2007 at 1:35 pmThis is a case of “flame mail” pure and simple, where someone types something up in the heat of the moment and hits the send key before their brain or common sense kicks in.
Should the recruiter lose their job over it? Heck yes. But I don’t believe this is a topic worthy of discussion here because it is so clearly wrong, so blatantly un-American that all that a discussion on the topic provides is an opportunity for bigots, racists, and the morally challenged to spew their bile and hate. I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of people telling me their justifications for their hate when, as a civil society should already be aware, there is no justification for hate.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:48 pmOK, I have not read all the posts here so this may have been covered.
I agree that the Recruiter was WAY over the line. But Mr. Andrew did a little pushing of his own in his first response. The Recruiter should have just
blow it offignored it and went about her day.How come it is OK to post the Recruiters e-mail address and not Mr. Andrews? He did a little provoking in here as well. He knew the policy and was pushing on the Recruiter about Congress policy decisions.
Yes, I think at a minimum the Recruiter should be relieved from her post and if not discharged, then not allowed to re-enlist. But come on, lets be fair here.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:50 pmAccording to the Bible, Daryll, you’re still available for slavery:
“However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.” (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
March 26th, 2007 at 1:50 pmDARYLL PLEASE ADDRESS OR HAVE YOUR PASTOR RESPOND
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Comment by Your Conscience — March 26, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
Leviticus doesn’t pertain to the Gentiles.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:50 pmComment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
Here’s the difference: the Army recruiter is a representative of the United States Army and of the United States of America. In other words, she is one of the faces that the world sees instead of yours and mine. You agree that her comments were disgusting and inflammatory. What you think of TP’s posters is not in the least comparable, since they represent themselves only, not you or I.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:51 pmIt’s a beautiful spring day.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:53 pmFor those who want to see the entire email thread, here’s the link:
http://www.pamspaulding.com/graphics/Ramode_Andrew_emails_SLDN.pdf
Because it’s in reverse date order, you have to read from the bottom up to get the actual timeline.
It’s interesting to note that Ramode vilifies and slanders him in nearly every line, but that the wingnuts are fixating on his one “Raindance” comment as the equal of her blocks of illiterate vitriol.
And we thought Anne Coulter had vo viable job opportunities after next year. She could become an Army Recruiter!!
March 26th, 2007 at 2:00 pm112. that is the best thing I have read in a long time. Please answer them Daryll.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:00 pmLeviticus doesn’t pertain to the Gentiles.
Comment by Saint Daryll, Envyer of Gluteus Maximus! — March 26, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
And there, my friends, is your cop-out!
March 26th, 2007 at 2:01 pmDaryll, riddle me this: Am I going to H E Double L because my wife is once divorced?
We are american citizens.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
So are the gay people that you try to force your way upon.
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
I never stated that gays weren’t American. I did state that their lifestyle is biblically wrong.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:06 pmLeviticus doesn’t pertain to the Gentiles.
According to Daryll. Who does it pertain to and why doesn’t it pertain to Gentiles. Gentiles? where can I find a Gentile nowadays.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:06 pm#
Hmm … homophobic AND racist.
Comment by K — March 26, 2007 @ 11:46 am
snd frighteningly illiterate. We’re talking grade three here.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:09 pmDaryll sez:
I beg your pardon, Daryll, but you are SADLY mistaken.
Here’s what the New Testament has to say about the Old Testament:
If you have indeed been ignoring the Old Testament, it should be obvious from these passages that you’re going to Hell.
Better get right with God, Daryll. While you’re at it, answer post #112
March 26th, 2007 at 2:13 pmMany (on both sides of the political spectrum) would find this comment to be wrong and worthy of costing this person her job. I hope she is held accountable for this transgression of public policy.
However, what is the deal about using it to condemn anyone with a conservative lean to their personal politics?
That’s how ALL the right wingers talk
Expose them for the pigs they are!
I would hope you would be intelligent enough and honest enough to realize that is simply not true. Stop trying so hard to be right that you are willing to smear, lie and misrepresent the facts yourself.
Daryll…you are an idiot.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:13 pm#119, please point out where I’m spewing hate.
It is amusing to see all of the bending-over-backwards that is being done to justify/excuse the hate that’s posted regularly by TMM, Spudge, VVGFU, etc.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
Well that’s alright then isn’t it? Thank the Lord (well, it depends on whether I actually worship the proper one) that I’m a Gentile. Otherwise I’d have to avoid any woman on her period. This would be a nightmare in the office.
Hellinabucket – I think I’m a Gentile. I’m not sure though. Can you help? hehehhe
March 26th, 2007 at 2:19 pmDo we really need to have this Bible lecture everytime Daryll shows up?
March 26th, 2007 at 2:23 pmJuan C sez:
Apparently, we do. Daryll is notoriously difficult to educate. ^_^
March 26th, 2007 at 2:25 pmHumanity to Dale: supporting wars is not a sign of benevolence.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:27 pmComment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
Perhaps. I could start spewing facts from the Grimm brother’s fairy tales. It would have almost the same level of validity.
Incidently, what the hell happened to Tevez this season?
March 26th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI never stated that gays weren’t American. I did state that their lifestyle is biblically wrong.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
My comment was not literal, Daryll – I was trying to point out to you that they have the same CONSTITUTIONAL rights as you – which is the basis for our society – not your evil Bible.
You can keep hiding behind things you can’t prove. You just don’t have the right to demand it of others.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI could start spewing facts from the Grimm brother’s fairy tales. It would have almost the same level of validity.
Comment by UKBristolDave
Except that Grimm´s tales are far more interesting.
Incidently, what the hell happened to Tevez this season?
March 26th, 2007 at 2:34 pmComment by UKBristolDave
Finally, an issue I can discuss with some authority :)
At first, I think he was fat and Premier´s rythm is pure vertigo. Second, I saw some of West Ham´s matches and, no offense, but I dont know who tell some of the players they were football players. They really suck.
I smell platinum!
Comment by joe
OOH, Joe, that makes me all light in the loafers just thinking about that song!
lol
March 26th, 2007 at 2:34 pmDo we really need to have this Bible lecture everytime Daryll shows up?
Comment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
So it would seem… Daryll’s a slow learner :)
I find it interesting that those who know the least about the Bible are those who most claim to follow it…
March 26th, 2007 at 2:36 pm#126 – “Leviticus doesn’t pertain to the Gentiles.” Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
Proof that the so-called “c”hirstians in the US pick & choose only certain parts of the Bible that they follow, and ignore anything that doesn’t support their prejudices.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:36 pmTMM and UnB:
So it seems. :)
March 26th, 2007 at 2:41 pmunbelievable sez:
Not interesting, really, when you consider there’s a casual connection. The more you know about the Bible, the less able you are to justify following it.
I think this is one of the major reasons so many men of the cloth have meltdowns…the human skull can handle only so much cognitive dissonance.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:41 pm#141, so supporting a war is spewing hate? Does that mean America, Great Britain, Russia, Canada, Australia, etc was spewing hate in WWII? Oh, wait, it’s only when the war is not a popular one… then it’s spewing hate.
As opposed to all of the lovely comments I regularly read here on TP. Can you say hypocritical?
March 26th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI think this is one of the major reasons so many men of the cloth have meltdowns…the human skull can handle only so much cognitive dissonance.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 26, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
LOL
So much in life is counterintuitive to our culture… That Newton really nailed human nature with his third law of motion… For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction… Daryll shows up with demands, intolerance, and divisiveness while expecting to be accepted, welcomed and included, and never seeming to catch on that to get what he wants, he first must give it. Considering the capacity of the human brain for learning, I do find it interesting that he instead chooses to ignore the obvious – the very basis for evolution of our species (adaptation).
March 26th, 2007 at 2:49 pmwhere can I find a Gentile nowadays
The Gentiles own a small grocery store down the street from my grandmother’s house in Columbus. Hope that helps :)!
March 26th, 2007 at 2:49 pmCan you say hypocritical?
Comment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Yes. Criticizing others for exercizing their rights of free speech while exercizing your right of free speech is very hypocritical. Good analogy…
March 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pmComment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
It’s a fair point. West Ham have been rubbish this season. Saying all that, did you see how Tevez celebrated his first goal in the Premiership? It was in the incredible West Ham vs Tottenham Hotspurs game. The man was over the moon. Shirt off and into the crowd absolutely ecstatic! The ref gave him a yellow card (as the rules dictate) and apologised for having to do it.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pmComment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
We weren’t the aggressors in WWII. A fundamental difference.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:53 pmDaryll won’t make the black-white distinction, but he’s all too happy to divide the masses at gay/straight or Gentile/Jew… Just as long as he gets to be in the “Goes to Heaven” pile.
God knows your gay Daryll, even if you pretend you aren’t.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:53 pm#154, Juan didn’t specify that only aggressors are hate-spewers… he said “supporting wars is not a sign of benevolence.”, in response to my request for an example of spewing hate. So, by his logic, we WERE hate-spewers in WWII.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:58 pm#154… and by your logic, who were the aggressors in the Civil War? Were they, also, spewing hate?
March 26th, 2007 at 2:59 pmOh, wait, it’s only when the war is not a popular one… then it’s spewing hate.
Comment by Dale
Wars are not popular, Rambo, no matter what your propagandistic country had told you. Just wars are fought by people under agression, they are fought by necessity, not because they just seem to like them.
In fact, the German people in the Nazi era were told that they were being threatened by the Jewish-Bolshevik menace, that the Western civilization (the legacy of ancient Greece) was under a great peril.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:01 pmDo you find this familiar? Poor tool, you have been lied all your life.
are you liberals for real? so here we have TP putting up a very hateful e-mail from a military personnel, rightly pointing out to the vitrol of its contents…..
but now this thread is full of hate, anger, venom, etc for anyone that disagrees with the liberals.
On this thread liberals have used equally hateful language as the author of the e-mail to attack the Bible, Christianity, men of the cloth and anyone else that they perceive disagrees with them when it comes to homosexuality.
is this what you liberals call tolerance? is this what you liberals call open mindness?
You liberals preach this, but you act as, “it is either my way or the highway….”
start practicing what you preach, if you preach tolerance and open mindness, show us supposed “evil”Christinas how to do it. Show us the tolerance you guys claim we don’t have towards homosexuals.
finally, open your mind to the possibility that you may be wrong when it comes to homosexuality.
and at the end, I think this thread was about the hateful e-mail, but leave it to the liberals to paint with one brush everyone they have been brainwashed to believe hates their ideology….
it is never ceasing and no longer amazing the hypocrisy of the left…..
a thread that was put up by TP (liberals) to condemn hate is full of hate by liberals towards anyone that disagrees with them….ahhhh the hypocrisy.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:02 pmWow. Leave for a couple hours, and Daryll’s still going at it.
Well, he should be going at it with the lovely new Mrs Daryll, but it seems he prefers to be here. Go figure…..
March 26th, 2007 at 3:02 pm#137. Regarding the spewing of hate. Have you read any of Ann Coulter lately?? What about “christian” Pat Robertson saying that the State Department building should be “nuked”? What about Jerry Falwell saying that “fornicators” (of which he is one) were responsible for 9/11? The Republic Party is so full of hate mongers and hate spewers, I think you need to word your comments a little more carefully.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmThe ref gave him a yellow card (as the rules dictate) and apologised for having to do it.
Comment by UKBristolDave
I have it in my youtube favorites. BTW, you cant do that in Argentina, we are so savages that we need fences in order to watch a football match. Go figure.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmComment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
What? You aren’t making sense.
You called a parallel between WWII and the current Iraq War. The involvement of the UK, US, Russia and Canada etc was due to aggression and acts of war by the Axis powers. Hence no comparison exists unless I missed the equivalent of the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour and the Invasion of Russia by Saddam.
As such, you compare it to a civil war. Comparing civil wars to international wars is like comparing apples and coal.
Have a word with yourself hey?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:06 pmUkDave has found Juan C…..bye guys. Heh. :)
March 26th, 2007 at 3:07 pm#158… Juan, buddy… keep trying to twist the story to fit your ‘facts’.
* I was accused of ’spewing hate’
* When asked for an example, the only one presented was my support of the Iraq war.
* Then, I was told that when we’re not the aggressor, we’re hate-spewing.
* Finally, I’m given a lecture on German aggression.
Uh, so if I understand this, then I’m spewing hate when I support a war that we started? So half of the country was spewing hate in the Civil War?
Thanks for proving my point Juan… I have *NOT* been ’spewing hate’ on this site… however, many other so-called ‘progressives’ have.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:08 pmComment by howsad
All those words to point just one thing, Cicerus?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:10 pmComment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
We used to have fences and terracing. Then we had the Hillsborough disaster and everything changed. 96 people went to a game and got crushed to death for no other reason than the police let too many people onto the terrace and the fence stopped them escaping the crush.
All UK football fans remember where they were when they heard about Hillsborough. I was 11 and on a school trip. Shit, just thinking about it still brings tears to my eyes.
After that the UK game had to change and it did.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:11 pmhowsad, this is all many of the people on this site know how to do… spew hate. Once in a while you’ll find a gem of analysis from somebody, but usually it’s just hate.
#161, bendover, read my comments again… I was asking for an example of when *I* spewed hate; not anybody else.
So can anyone show an example of my posts on TP that are ’spewing hate’???
March 26th, 2007 at 3:12 pmComment by Zooey — March 26, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
Hey, I can keep of the Football chat. it’s not an important part of my life at all. As Bill Shankley once said
“Football isn’t a matter of life and death, it’s more important than thay”.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:12 pmThanks for proving my point Juan… I have *NOT* been ’spewing hate’ on this site… however, many other so-called ‘progressives’ have.
Comment by Dale
Once again. You support this war. You are afraid (of WMDs, Saddam, Al-Qaeda, Muslims, whatever). Fear breeds hate. Hate breeds violence. Just like Germans.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:13 pmah, the misleading right wing talking point “if I want to be a bigot, that is my choice, and if you disagree and belittle me for being a bigot, then you are a bigot!”
sorry, but the right is full of homophobic, sexist, moronic, bigots. The reason comments are made on this thread are to show how stupid and warped the thought process of the reich wing is.
we aren’t going to say ‘its my way or the high way’, especially if you go your own way. but once you come on here and start saying stuff about how wrong liberals views are and how homosexuality is wrong, then you better bet we are going to jump you with our superior intellect, knowledge, and acceptance. Don’t go crying that we are not being tolerant because you come on here being a bigot.
Being open minded does not mean racism, sexism, homophobia or religious intolerance must be accepted by us and respected. To be a civilized society, these things must be wiped out. To prevent atrocities, these things must be wiped out.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:14 pmSo are the gay people that you try to force your way upon.
Comment by unbelievable
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
(saying with the fullest sincerity)
March 26th, 2007 at 3:15 pmbye guys. Heh. :)
Comment by Zooey
You stay right there, lady. ;)
March 26th, 2007 at 3:15 pm“Football isn’t a matter of life and death, it’s more important than thayâ€.
Comment by UKBristolDave
Menotti said: “Football is the most important thing of the least important things”
I could talk days about football.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:16 pmUkBristolDave,
1) Amazing how the liberal western media claims Iraq is in a Civil War, but according to a poll done by a UK company of 5,000 Iraqis, only 27% of them, WHO LIVE THERE! believe that Iraq is in a Civil war, 46% don’t believe their nation is in a civil war….so who do we believe, the western media which is 100% against the Iraq War or the Iraqis who live there? hmmmm….I guess you left your logic hat in the bathroom, eh?
2)Were you awake when Saddam Hussein was caught giving millions of dollars to Palestinian terrorist groups? were you sleeping when he filled up countless mass graves with Iraqis? Clinton attacked Serbia for a lot less. I take it you hate Iraqis and don’t believe that human rights abuses should be dealt with the same way in Iraq as Nato dealt with them in Kosovo and Serbia, right?
3)Iraq was shooting at American and British Jet Fighters who were patrolling the no fly-zones, put into place to prevent Hussein from mass murdering Shietes and Kurds.
4)Gulf War I never ended, there was no treaty signed, but rather a truce signed. You liberals who claim to know so much about international law should know that a truce is NOT a peace treaty, but rather an end of hostilities given that the party that lost complies with certain things….Saddam Hussein was NOT complying with the truce agreement.
5)and if you are going to bring up the, “there were no WMDs in Iraq” make sure that you mention that the WHOLE WORLD agreed that he had them….France, Germany, Russia, USA, UN, Australia, Spain, Chile, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc all agreed he had them…the question before the war was NOT whether he had them or not, it was whether the world could get Hussein to give them up peacefully. And the French, Russians and germans should know since they were trading weapons with the Saddam Hussein regime during the 1990s.
and you seem to forget that it was Japan that attacked us in Pearl Harbor, not Nazi Germany, so why did we declare war on Germany? according to your standards we should have left Nazi Germany alone, right?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:18 pmComment by AshenShard
Great post.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:18 pm“Football isn’t a matter of life and death, it’s more important than thayâ€.
Comment by UKBristolDave
Of course it is!! :D
March 26th, 2007 at 3:19 pmAh… nice logic Juan… did you learn that at a university somewhere, or did you come up with it all on your own?
I’m afraid of spiders also; does that mean I’m going to turn into a venomous, insect-hating terrorist, pulling the legs off of spiders?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:19 pmI’m afraid of spiders also; does that mean I’m going to turn into a venomous, insect-hating terrorist, pulling the legs off of spiders?
Comment by Dale
Only if you support killing spiders.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:21 pmComment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
I think we better not. I don’t want to annoy Zooey anymore than I already have. I hear that Zooey takes no prisoners!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 3:21 pmJuan C,
stop with your two year old logic….If we use what you said…
Once again. You support this war. You are afraid (of WMDs, Saddam, Al-Qaeda, Muslims, whatever). Fear breeds hate. Hate breeds violence. Just like Germans.
Comment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
than Al Gore the the Global Warming alarmist are breeding hate and violence, right?
what are these people doing, going around trying to get people to act out of fear, right?
Al Gore and all the other activists that have transformed Global Warming into their religion are using fear tactics to get people to act….
so Juan C, is it ok for the left to use fear monguering when they believe an issue is very important and it isn’t ok for the right to do the same if they believe an issue is important?
if we use your logic, then Al Gore are using fear, which turns into hate and finally into violence…..
March 26th, 2007 at 3:23 pmAshenShard,
Amazing how you liberals justify your hate, venom, vitrol and down right lack of tolerance.
and then I guess what you are saying is that everyone that doesn’t follow the lefties morals is a biggot full of hate, eh?
the sad thing is that you are too blinded by the brainwashing done to you that you cant’ see how illogical and hateful your argument is.
how sad for the left to be so full of hate towards anyone that disagrees with their point of views….
March 26th, 2007 at 3:26 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
OK, I’ll take you point by point
1) I was arguing about the invasion of Iraq compared to the Civil war in the USA in the 19th century. Is that clear enough for you?
2) Yes Saddam slaughtered his own people. I could argue the toss that he did that when we (UK / US) were supporting him but that’s irrelevant isn’t it? Of course, you’ll back me into invading Darfur and Zimbabwe due to the human rights abuses won’t you? Just as you’ll support invading China and Saudi Arabia? Sheet, let’s load up and invade North Korea. You’re with me right? All these countries have shocking human rights records. You aren’t with me? Why do you hate the Chinese howsad?
4) You have a point and I will concede this
5) Did we? I must have been asleep during this period of History.
You have totally undermined your whole argument. Germany declared war on the US.
Check the facts son and have a word hey?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:31 pmOnly if they’re gay spiders /sarc
March 26th, 2007 at 3:31 pmhowsadsack,
you sound like a hater. Don’t hate; participate.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:33 pmme brainwashed? no, just educated in history and with the ability to apply philosophy and complex thought to situations.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:34 pmNot tolerating a bigot is not the same as not tolerating someone for who they are biologically.
By your logic, if I or any other liberal were to call out, belittle, shout down, or logically expose anyone advocating the institutionalization of NAZI beliefs and practices, well then we would be full of ‘hate, venom, vitrol and down right lack of tolerance.’ We would be ‘full of hate’ towards those advocating NAZI policy. But, to fulfill your demands, to remain tolerant we must accept their views as legitimate.
howsad…I will go slow this time.
When you have a problem at hand like CLIMATE CHANGE (stop using Global Warming, please), you do things in order to stop it, right? I dont see anyone screaming about Climate Change, there is no fear, there is concern, which is another thing. We have to do something in order to do not produce (any more) changes in climate patterns. Ok? I havent heard somebody about being afraid of Climate Change. Perhaps concerned or worried.
I personally dont care about Gore, but I find interesting that somebody worries about this issue in some higher position in the political spectrum than most of the scientists.
Now, about the illegal occupation in Iraq: if you supported or support this occupation, then you are a hating person. Why? Becuz you really thought Saddam was a threat. But, hey, thats not your fault. Thats the whole purpose of propaganda. Make the people afraid of non-threats, just like Cuba, Granada, Nicaragua, and even Germany or Japan. Japan never attacked US soil, they attacked US colonies: Hawaii and Phillipines. Germany never stepped on US soil either. Both of them were a threat? Of course, they were, but lets put things in perspective.
Now, Iraq was a threat? Let me start laughing. I will let you know when Im done.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:34 pmOnly if they’re gay spiders /sarc
Comment by Dale
I have to say that that was funny. :)
March 26th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI think we better not. I don’t want to annoy Zooey anymore than I already have. I hear that Zooey takes no prisoners!!!
Comment by UKBristolDave
Ah hell, don’t put that on me! Talk football! I’ll go save the world. :D
Who’s advocating the murder of spiders….?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:37 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
I know this is quite pathetic but I’m going to enjoy this. Answer this simple question
In WWII, did Germany declare war on the US or did the US declare War on Germany?
You’ve already claimed the US declared war on Germany. Do you stand by this? I mean, it’s only a a key fact of WWII isn’t it? I mean, if you can’t get this right how could you possibly comment on anything else?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:38 pmYes, please stop using Climate Change. You see, words matter. If you use Global Warming, then we won’t be able to change our minds again regarding the warming/cooling cycle of the earth… but calling it CLIMATE CHANGE allows us to flip-flop all we want.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:39 pmI’m having a,”GAY VOODOO LIMBO TANGO AND WANGO DANCE ” party later in the month. You are al invited. Please bring flip-flops and check half your clothes at the door. ‘Military’ theme btw..
Peace Out,
HopeSpringsATurtle, USAF Veteran, with current active duty
March 26th, 2007 at 3:40 pmmilitary husband.
I am… nasty little things, spiders! But first, some torture. I envision a web-thats-not-a-web… it’ll just give them the *illusion* that they’re on a web, then we’ll pull it out from under them. It’s a proven fact that most spiders can’t hold up under web-boarding for longer than 15-20 seconds.
:-)
March 26th, 2007 at 3:41 pm#118, Zooey, this whole thing w/the spiders came about because of all the hate-filled posts I make here on TP.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:42 pmHow’s the view from up there on that cross, Dale?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:47 pm‘Military’ theme btw
Comment by HopeSpringsATurtle — March 26, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Does that mean I have to camouflage my “boy parts”? Damn Camo-paint is hard to get off sometimes.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:49 pmKBristolDave,
The United States of America declared war on Germany on December 11, 1941…..
http://www.law.ou.edu/ushistory/germwar.shtml
on the same day that Germany and Italy declared war on the USA after the USA declared war on Japan
Saddam Hussein had declare a war against the USA and Britain by shooting at our jet planes flying over the no-fly zones.
read the truce, you know that thing that is NOT a peace treaty.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:49 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Can you hear howsad sing?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:49 pmBecause I can’t hear a freaking thing!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
(saying with the fullest sincerity)
Comment by Proud Dem — March 26, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
You’re welcome. Though I don’t think any of it is doing any good.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:50 pmso yes, I stand by the fact that the USA declared war on Germany….
nice try….
March 26th, 2007 at 3:50 pmJuan C…
you are too far gone to have an intelligent conversation with you. Only a brainwashed liberal would claim that Al Gore and the Global Warming zealots are not using fear to get people to act.
don’t worry, you don’t need to tell me when you stop laughing, your laughter is prove of your ignorance and lack of education.
I take it you believe El Che was a really nice person fighting for the poor, verdad pequenito?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:54 pmZooey, this whole thing w/the spiders came about because of all the hate-filled posts I make here on TP.
Comment by Dale
Then stop doing that.
And either take the spiders outside or stomp on them — no spider torture. Sicko! :)
March 26th, 2007 at 3:55 pmDamn Camo-paint is hard to get off sometimes.
Comment by hacker bob
That sounds like the voice of experience, Robert.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pmDo tell — and I’m talking about the camo-paint on the boy parts, so no weaseling out of it. :D
Howsad
#
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/wwii/gerdec41.htm
I know Yale has a liberal bias but there you go hey?
Once again, have a word.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pmBut, to fulfill your demands, to remain tolerant we must accept their views as legitimate.
Comment by AshenShard — March 26, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Great posts on this subject. I agree. There is a vast difference between instigating hatred and defending against it…
A friend of mine is into the martial arts. There are forms of it that are strictly defensive in nature (blocking and countering manuevers), as opposed to forms that are offensive (punches, kicks, etc.). I liken the debate between closed and open minded people to the interaction between an offense and a defense in such a conflict. It is the close-minded person who delivers the punches (offense), and the open minded person who blocks them (defense).
Basically – it’s why they, quite literally, are so offensive :)
March 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pmonly and uneducated liberal would claim that the Iraq War is an illegal occupation.
I am sure you poor liberals who are so much for human rights were all over NATO and Clinton when they attacked Serbia for gross violations of human rights, right?
you may want to read the liberal Amnesty International and Human Right Watch and you may be shocked to find that Saddam Hussein’s violations of human rights were actually much greater than anything Milosevic was doing in Serbia…..
but you poor brainwashed saps were told by the media dn the left that the attacks on Serbia were ok, but the attacks on Iraq were not and you guys believed it, your poor brainwashed, partisan fools.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pmDoes that mean I have to camouflage my “boy parts�
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Only around terrorists holding magnifying glasses…
March 26th, 2007 at 3:59 pmhowsad = Rachel
March 26th, 2007 at 4:02 pmYou can suck up spiders in a Dust Buster and then deposit them outside. No need for stomping – or touching :).
Spiders actually keep down the populations of disease carrying pests such as mosquitos – so you really do want them living outside of your home.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pm#207… I don’t think so. Rachel rants and raves, howsad has been making reasoned, intelligent points, whether you agree with them or not. (I happen to agree with most of what he/she’s been saying)
March 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pmUkBristolDave,
so, are you saying that the USA didn’t declare war on Germany and Italy ono December 11, 1941?
are you for real? the sad part is that you honestly believe that you are smarter than any conservative.
I am laughing at your lack of education and poor logic.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
Agree that you are wrong yet? Admit that Germany declared war on the US first? Are you going against the facts laid infront of you?
Of course, facts are pointless when it comes to ignorance.
Take a goddamn long look at yourself son
March 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pmhowsad = Rachel
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
bwahahahaha!!! full blown left wing paranoia and stupidity…..if it makes your day to believe that kid….
another left wing kook
March 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pm#209, should I use a Dust Buster before or after the web-boarding?
:-)
March 26th, 2007 at 4:06 pmhowsad = Rachel
Comment by unbelievable
No way.
Rachel, even with her problems, had a brain — and she was always on our side.
howsad is just….sad. Oy.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:07 pmAshenShard,
I guess you are NOT a well educated person and I am hoping you aren’t a fan of the ACLU, right?
since it was the ACLU who fought for and won the right of the Nazis to walk in Skokie, IL in the 1970s…claiming freedom of speech and tolerance….what do you think now?
furthermore, it is you on the left who carry the tolerance and open mindness agenda and spew your hypocrisy any and every chance you get.
and once again, you are attacking me and calling me a biggot when I haven’t posted any of my views on homosexuality.
I am laughing at your so called philosphy, education and logic. Where did you get them, clown university?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pmUKBristolDave,
sorry my young padwan, I never claimed that the USA declared war on Germany first….
like a good liberal you assumed that that was what post said.
and are you denying and going against history that the USA on December 11, 1941 declared war on Germany and Italy? is this what you liberals call an open minded, tolerant, honest debate?
poor liberal so desperate and eager to prove anyone on the right wrong that he even claims that I said something I never said!
hahaha!!! educate yourself, just like Germany delcared war on the USA, the USA declared war on Germany and Italy.
open up a book and while you are at, get an education.
you were right, i am having tons of fun laughing at your stupidity.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:12 pmanother left wing kook
Comment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
That means that I’m right. That and you knew who Rachel was without blinking…
Rachel, even with her problems, had a brain — and she was always on our side.
Comment by Zooey — March 26, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Not always. Remember how she would be ‘angie from atlanta’ and be a right wing freak, and then become just ‘angie’ who was liberal. Her moniker ‘patricia reglin’ was neocon for a while who insulted everyone and then went liberal. Even Rachel was a neocon who attacked liberals first and then became liberal ‘Rachel Kinnardi’, who then became a liberal who attacked everyone and anyone when she didn’t get her way.
The style is very, very similar… It’s the patterns…
March 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmOnly around terrorists holding magnifying glasses…
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
You’ve been peeking…
and it was cold that day.
Do tell — and I’m talking about the camo-paint on the boy parts, so no weaseling out of it. :D
Comment by Zooey — March 26, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
Yep, ignoring this one Zoo
March 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pmshould I use a Dust Buster before or after the web-boarding?
Comment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
What, nothing good on desperation television? : )
March 26th, 2007 at 4:16 pmAshenShard,
so, I take it you are not a fan of the ACLU, right? since they go completly against what you claim are your beliefs and philosphies, right?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:16 pmYou’ve been peeking…
If that’s what you call logic…. hmmm okay…
and it was cold that day.
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
I’m guessing it’s cold a lot?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:18 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
God, this whole World War II thing is fun.
Yup, you declared war on Germany after they had declared war on you. Well done, that proves your point.
As you can’t understand this very, very basic point then what is the point in my trying to discuss Iraq with you? Seriously, what do I have to gain from a numpty who can’t understand a very simple declaration of war?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:19 pm#219, no, just reruns of AlGore on CSPAN saying something about his baby being sick.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmSeriously, what do I have to gain from a numpty who can’t understand a very simple declaration of war?
Comment by UKBristolDave — March 26, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Indigestion? A migraine? Muscle spasms? :)
March 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Magic spin howsad. I salute you.
So, what you are saying is that the US would have delcared war on Germany on that date if Germany hadn’t declared war on you guys?
You’re proved wrong and then try and twist it. In-bloody-credible.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmno, just reruns of AlGore on CSPAN saying something about his baby being sick.
Comment by Dale — March 26, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Ah, the one channel not covering Anna Nicole Smith’s surprising reason for death (sarcasm)…
Al Gore has a baby? Isn’t Tipper a few years past her ability?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:24 pmUKBristolDave,
hahahaha!! typical liberal, typical…..afraid that you will be proven wrong, thus you run with your tail between your legs….
you put your country to shame, Churchill would step on ants like you.
I guess you are the type of British moron that would have believed it when the British Prime Minister came back from talking to Hitler and selling out Czech….and claiming, “peace in our times”.
you would have believed Chambirlin, right?
and here is a littel clue for you, Mr. uneducated, man you give the British a bad name….Saddam Hussein in 1990 declared war on the UN and the USA….no peace treaty was ever signed, a truce was signed, know the difference?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:27 pmukbristoldave….
ok, show where I said that the USA declared war on Germany first…
tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock…….
you read something in my posts that wasn’t there and you are running with it like a good deusional liberal.
can you be honest….
March 26th, 2007 at 4:29 pmComment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Now now, Just because having “relations” with you would be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway is no reason to get personal.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:29 pmYou guys quit poking the “Daryll-Bear’ Rush Limpness will be here any minute, then you’ll be sorry.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:29 pmComment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
I’m a History graduate who specialised in the totalitarian states in modern Europe. I know it shouldn’t get to me but this level of ignorance really pains me.
Comment by howsad —
“and you seem to forget that it was Japan that attacked us in Pearl Harbor, not Nazi Germany, so why did we declare war on Germany? according to your standards we should have left Nazi Germany alone, right?”
That was your quote right? Still stand by it?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:32 pmIt is everyones right to be a bigot, but by being a bigot one opens themselves up to criticism and marginalization. The ACLU upholds the constitution, and it is the right of anyone, whether liberal or NAZI, to say what they want. I support the ACLU wholly.
Anyway, that is not the same as calling people on their idiocy. Just because I am telling Nazi’s they are wrong, bigoted, racist, homophobic, morons does not make me a bigot or intolerant.
Another example, if someone calls an African Americans promiscuous, racially inferior and unintelligent, that is their right. But, by me calling them on their bigotry is just pointing out a fact. “But it is my opinion…” when referring to the inferiority of another race or the immorality of another sexual orientation does not cut it. That ‘opinion’ makes one an uneducated bigot. If one defends the legitimacy of such opinions, I do not care how much education one has, they obviously have wasted their time.
Just because someone has the right to say something or have an opinion does not mean it is legitimate and should be treated with the respect given to truly legitimate positions.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:34 pmHacker Bob: Bring your Speedos silly, there’ll be water0boarding for everyone!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:34 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Brilliant. Here’s a song just for you howsad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMwdAc1Dzfg
March 26th, 2007 at 4:38 pmComment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Now now, Just because having “relations†with you would be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway is no reason to get personal.
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Brilliant.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmLMAO
You asked a question about why we declared war on Nazi Germany:
Here you are attempting to compare NG to our preemptive strike on Iraq, and thus justifying our invasion Iraq with our actions in WWII. It thus assumes that NG did not declare war on us first and we just did so out of the blue to protect Europe and stop the atrocities. Of course, your comparison is totally erroneous.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmNow now, Just because having “relations†with you would be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway is no reason to get personal.
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Just because you consider a quarter of a Vienna Sausage to be a hotdog doesn’t mean that a test tube is equal to a hallway…
March 26th, 2007 at 4:42 pmLMAO
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
That should take decades….
March 26th, 2007 at 4:43 pmYep, ignoring this one Zoo
Comment by hacker bob
Right. So you should. :D
I’ll ask Mrs Robert next time she’s around….
March 26th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAshenShard,
So, I take it then that you agree with countries like Canada and actually some States of our union who are trying to pass laws limiting speech when it comes to teaching or claiming that homosexuality is wrong?
and I couldn’t agree with you more….just because the left has the right to say something is right or wrong it does not mean that it is legitimate and should be treated with respect given to truly legitimate positions.
as you are showing, it is you on the left that want to insult people into agreeing with your points of views and opinions.
it is YOUR believe and YOUR opinion that homosexuality is ok, why do you want to insult people into agreeing with you?
it is SOMEONE ELSE’S OPINION that you are wrong….is it ok for that person than to turn around and insult you because they disagree with you?
furthermore, it is YOUR opinion that someone wasted their education if they think homosexuality is wrong…
lastly, you are trying to put everyone that believes homosexuality is wrong as a fringe group.
It just seems that you want to have your opinion and not be attacked for those opinions, but you want to attack anyone that disagrees with you.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:44 pmComment by AshenShard — March 26, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
howsad misrepresents the truth and then tries to spin it when caught out. The man is intellectually dishonest.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:46 pmMy Vienna Sausage is the biggest.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:47 pmLMAO
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
That should take decades….
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
sorry to disappoint you, canyon cr*tch. It aint big at all.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:48 pmAshenShard,
what preemtive strike on Iraq? sinice Bush 1 we had been attacking and at war with Iraq, under clinton we attacked Iraq, under Bush 2 we attacked Iraq…..
what the heck are you talking about.
here are simple questions for individuals like UKBristolDave and you…
1)was Saddam Hussein in gross violations of international treaties due to his violations of human rights?
2)was Saddam Hussein not attacking Americana nd British jet fighters that were patroling the no-fly zones?
3)Did Democrats long before Bush took office urge Clinton to invade Iraq and get rid of him?
4)Why did NATO And Clinton attacking Serbia? what had Milosevic done? did he have WMDs? did he ever make this claim?
5)How many countries around the world claim that Hussein had WMDs?
6)Was Saddam Hussein violating the truce signed in 1990 by creating missles that could reach Israel and Europe? was he violating this truce by committing horrific human rights violations?
7)Why is it that you liberals are so willing to fight and insult the right wing fundamentalist, yet you defend with incredible passion the muslim fundamentalist that stand against everthing that you liberals supposedly stand for?
once again, either a Bush hater that is blinded by their hatred or a truly uneducated person would honestly believe that the Iraq War was wrong.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:50 pmMy Vienna Sausage is the biggest.
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
That’s obvious :)
March 26th, 2007 at 4:51 pmsorry to disappoint you, canyon cr*tch. It aint big at all.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Liar. We all know you were Free Willy’s body double. It’s how you know about canyon crotches. It’s what your mother says she is washing when she scrubs your butt…
March 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pmUKBristolDave,
do you lack so much cojones that you can’t put up where I said that the USA declared war on Germany first?
c’mon if I said this, it shouldn’t be hard for yout o find it on this thread, cut and paste it and put me in my place, right?
so, if you want to shut me up, sho were I said that the USA declared war on Germany before Germany declared war on the USA…
still waiting….
or you liberals so dishonest that you don’t care when you have been caught in a lie?
Chambirlin would be proud of liberals today, just like him, putting their head in the sand….
March 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWould you rather have a canyon crotch or a Nully butt?
This is much more pressing than stupid politics. :)
March 26th, 2007 at 4:55 pmNully’s crotch is so big, she uses an epileptic instead of a d!ldo.
Take that one!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:56 pmUnloveable
March 26th, 2007 at 4:57 pmThat was the saddest comeback I have ever heard.
Really stupid.
For all sanctimonious bigots out there (that means you, Darryl)
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/26/88/
March 26th, 2007 at 4:58 pmSorry for truth, didn’t know you and Unimaginable idoit had a thing going.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:00 pmCarry on. Just wear a condom, I hear she’s been around the block a few thousand times.
Would you rather have a canyon crotch or a Nully butt?
Being a vegan with a healthy level of self-esteem – neither is actually an option for me. It’s what upsets the little freak so much :)
This is much more pressing than stupid politics. :)
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
Just as long as we are clear on that…
: )
March 26th, 2007 at 5:00 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Mate, you’ve got yourself so twisted. The statement, that I have posted before, implied that the US declared war on Germany for no apparent reason that to help out the UK. Shall I post it again?
“and you seem to forget that it was Japan that attacked us in Pearl Harbor, not Nazi Germany, so why did we declare war on Germany? according to your standards we should have left Nazi Germany alone, right?”
At no point do you make reference to Nazi Germany having declared war on the US. Hence the implication is of the sentence “so why did we declare war on Germany” is that you did it for altruistic reasons. Being intellectually honest, you would have mentioned that Nazi Germany had already declared war on you.
Give it up hey?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:01 pmsorry to disappoint you, canyon cr*tch. It aint big at all.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Brilliant
Canyon ummm.. I mean Unbe
that Free Willy comeback was weak.
That test tube of yours, is that where the sulfur smell is coming from?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:01 pmNully’s crotch is so big, she uses an epileptic instead of a d!ldo.
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
OUCH! Point, set, match!
Never get into a word war with people who study dysfunctional minds for a living…
March 26th, 2007 at 5:03 pmSo Vegan’s have tight asses and crotches?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:04 pmThat was the saddest comeback I have ever heard.
Really stupid.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
If that were actually true you would have had an actual response instead of this cop-out.
Run along now
March 26th, 2007 at 5:04 pmComment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
Remember who started it (glares at Unbelievable)
Now go pet your Vienna Sausage
March 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pmI hear she’s been around the block a few thousand times.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
1. He’s fixed
March 26th, 2007 at 5:06 pm2. He’s married
3. Unlike you, I was raised by people with morals who paid attention to me, so I don’t need to sleep around to find “love”.
UKBristolDave
Yeah, its spin is constant and dizzying. Easy to keep up, but after a few times, not really worth it. Better now to let a dead horse lie I think than to continue the flogging.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmMate??? I ain’t your mate, you poor Chambirlin Brit….
so, what you are saying is that YOU ASSUMED something, you took my post and put the meaning and language that you wanted it, right?
sorry kid, you are the one making assumptions about what I ment, unless you have a mind reader you are such making crap up…
no where did I claim, as YOU assumed that the USA declared war on Nazi Germany before Germany did it……
you made an incorrect assumption and have run with it….put down whatever you are smoking and stop assuming and putting meaning into my posts.
just like at no point did I make reference to Nazi GErmany declaring war on the USA first, at no point did i make reference to the USA declaring on Germany first. You made all this up in your mind…
give up yet?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmman, for truth. I don’t think your wife and kids would be too happy to read about this sweet love with miss thang.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmSeriously,
Unbelievable, Nully, ForTruth, thanks for a much needed laugh.
at least on my end, it was all in fun.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:09 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Of course, I’d have spelt Chamberlains’ name properly but that’s just my attempt to show a level of intelligence.
I’ve always said that it takes a big man to question someone’s else cajones over the Internet. Only a big man would do that. Hell, I’m proper scared of you.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:09 pmBrilliant
Not even if you gave it a 100 point IQ head start.
Canyon ummm.. I mean Unbe
that Free Willy comeback was weak.
Just because you aren’t smart enough to get it doesn’t mean much.
That test tube of yours, is that where the sulfur smell is coming from?
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
No, that would be your own vagina. Take a bath occasionally. And try using soap.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:09 pmIt is everyones right to be a bigot, but by being a bigot one opens themselves up to criticism and marginalization. The ACLU upholds the constitution, and it is the right of anyone, whether liberal or NAZI, to say what they want. I support the ACLU wholly.
Anyway, that is not the same as calling people on their idiocy. Just because I am telling Nazi’s they are wrong, bigoted, racist, homophobic, morons does not make me a bigot or intolerant.
Another example, if someone calls an African Americans promiscuous, racially inferior and unintelligent, that is their right. But, by me calling them on their bigotry is just pointing out a fact. “But it is my opinion…†when referring to the inferiority of another race or the immorality of another sexual orientation does not cut it. That ‘opinion’ makes one an uneducated bigot. If one defends the legitimacy of such opinions, I do not care how much education one has, they obviously have wasted their time.
Just because someone has the right to say something or have an opinion does not mean it is legitimate and should be treated with the respect given to truly legitimate positions.
Comment by AshenShard — March 26, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
I don’t support the ACLU. There morally demolishing american society. If there are any ACLU reps on this blog, I’m not scared of you. I have Jesus on my side. They want to eliminate Jesus in all facets of society. I don’t hate the organization, but I will tell you this, hear me now, they will eventually answer to God for your deeds. How can they remove God from our society? Don’t they have a conscience? They our possessed by Satan, and need redemption.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:09 pmAshenShard,
ahhh…I guess you ran out of your supposed logic, philosphy and education, right?
don’t worry, most liberals run when they realize that they have lost the argument.
it is fun to play with the simple minds of liberals.
too bad you guys are so dishonest…..UKBritoldave makes up this lie that I had claimed the USA declared war on GErmany first and he has run with it for over 30 minutes. how dishonest and ill-informed can you liberals be?
the sad part is that you believe you are well educated and deeply philosophical….I don’t know if to feel pity for you or point at you and laugh….take your pick.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:10 pmSo Vegan’s have tight asses and crotches?
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
Aren’t fat…
March 26th, 2007 at 5:11 pmme, too, hacker bob.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:11 pmShe just deserves a slap down every now and again, she’s so damned upitty.
Comment by AshenShard — March 26, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
I know but this stuff really gets to me.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll step back and join the normal conversation. I do reserve the right for one last response if the tool comes back though!
Cheers
March 26th, 2007 at 5:13 pmRemember who started it (glares at Unbelievable)
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
Yes, your limited mind doesn’t remember anything prior to the start of this month… How could I forget?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:13 pmIt’s all in good fun Nully. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else.
You call the above exchange “sweet love”?
Bummer.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:14 pmThat test tube of yours, is that where the sulfur smell is coming from?
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
No, that would be your own vagina. Take a bath occasionally. And try using soap.
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
see what I mean, hacker. She just accused you of having a ‘gina. Damn name’s Bob.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:14 pmShe’s weak, and real uppity.
man, for truth. I don’t think your wife and kids would be too happy to read about this sweet love with miss thang.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
It’s not cheating if you don’t touch. Grow up…
March 26th, 2007 at 5:14 pmAll you kids should just look at yourselves. :)
March 26th, 2007 at 5:15 pmAnswer to God? What God? My soul plans on residing in Nirvana after a few more reincarnations.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:15 pmAshenShard,
only a twisted, amoral liberal like you would defend the ACLU and their defense of NAMBLA, the Nazi Party in the USA, etc, etc.
what ill-informed people like you lack is logic, truh, honestly, honor, and morality.
how can you defend a group of lawyers that help the Nazi Party spew their hate? how can you believe in the ACLU when they are defending the right of an organization to tell others how to molest underage children?
you left wing kooks put humanity to shame….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
I’m just quoting what you wrote. Please explain what you wrote if it isn’t in the context I read it.
This is starting to get boring. You have no coherent response to any of my posts.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:17 pmHowsad – you lied by omission. If you had left off your ‘according to you..’ attack, I’d have let you off with a caution… but that last sentence constructs your attack around the omitted statement. Sorry, try admitting your mistake – might not make you a great leader like Chimpy, but at least you’ll be well on the way to being a man (or a woman).
March 26th, 2007 at 5:18 pmUKBristolDave,
hahahaha!!! a left wing brainwashed fool calling someone else a tool.
have you looked in the mirror lately Mr. Tool? poor liberals, Chambirlin would have been proud of you little one….
still waiting for you to put up those words of mine in which I said the USA declared war on GErmany first….
tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock……what’s the matter little one….mommy not letting you play with the computer anymore?
you poor brainwashed tools and robots from the left….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:18 pmShe just deserves a slap down every now and again, she’s so damned upitty.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
It is YOU, holier-than-thou freak of nature who assigns tone when reading written words. If you’re the one assuming ‘upitty’ (it’s spelled uppity, by the way), then you should smack your own nasty self the hardest.
We know it’s really jealousy that motivates you. Hide behind moral supriority all you want, brazen hypocrite. It’s just that much more to laugh at you about.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:19 pmAll I know, if I’m ever drafted, all of the sudden I’m gay.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pmIt’s not cheating if you don’t touch. Grow up…
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
somehow I don’t think Mrs For Truth would feel that way.
for truth,
sorry you didn’t read it the way I wrote it. There’s a little sarcasm involved.
back to you, Unsweetened. you need to lighten the hell up. Try being nice to people every now and again. You might not to have to rely so much on your cyber crushes. And my IQ is 136.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:22 pmI took a 5 day break from “here” and its still the same trolls saying the same stuff.
Much more fun to talk about canyon crotches, bubble butts, and so-on.
If it smells like fish….. make a dish.
If it smells like cologne, leave it alone…
March 26th, 2007 at 5:23 pmhacker, there’s a whole bunch of bugs residin’ in that particular a*s
March 26th, 2007 at 5:24 pmIf it smells like fish….. make a dish.
If it smells like cologne, leave it alone…
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
Words of wisdom……….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:25 pmI don’t support the ACLU. There morally demolishing american society.
By fighting against hatred and bigotry? That cult you worship really has you brain washed…
Why the need to put other people down Daryll? You feel that bad about yourself?
If there are any ACLU reps on this blog, I’m not scared of you.
Such paranoia!
I have Jesus on my side.
Only in your imagination. The man died a couple centuries ago… Proof of his moral being is all the children who are molested and nice people who get cancer and don’t get his help.
They want to eliminate Jesus in all facets of society.
Actually the Founding Fathers did that – First Amendment. Try reading it.
I don’t hate the organization, but I will tell you this, hear me now, they will eventually answer to God for your deeds.
There is no god. If there is you could prove it, but you keep dodging my requests to do so.
How can they remove God from our society?
Because it is the right thing to do. Your god generates hate and violence. We’ll be better off when people reject that crap and put the here and now as a priority.
Don’t they have a conscience?
Says the person without one. The person who wants to harass gays.
They our possessed by Satan, and need redemption.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
You are demented. Get professional help. You’re truly sick.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:25 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
Just keep on truckin’ howsad. I proved you wrong earlier and now you fall back into empty cliches. A good, professional call.
The fact you have made a comment on my Mum shows how classy you are.
Thanks for your time.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:25 pmHi,
I’m a brainwashed tool from the left. Reality and facts have brainwashed me. Failed policies and bungled wars have brainwashed me. Being taught the Constitution has brainwashed me. I’m a stupid and easy to manipulate. Just give it a go, you’ll see. I like to eat babies too.
Thanks, and don’t forget to support lazy people who don’t want a job.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:26 pmMaybe you should sleep around, someone might find the stick you have crammed up your a$$.
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
How long before your wife shows up to insult me in your defense? Or is she the one giving you the crappy one liners now? LOL
March 26th, 2007 at 5:28 pmYou are demented. Get professional help. You’re truly sick.
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
see what I mean, Unmarried? No wonder. You attack everyone on this site who aint kissin’ your vegan butt.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:29 pmUKbrit…
so you interpreted what I wrote wrong!! get it?
my point if I must explain it to slow people like you, is that the USA went to war against a nation that didn’t attack it, but declare war on it. The USA could have backed off and never declared war on Germany, right? Did Germany attack the USA? did it before the USA declare war on Germnay?! no! Saddam Hussein declared war on the USA back in 1990, in turn the USA did the same. By all legal means the USA And Iraq were still and in fact are still at war since no peace treaty has ever been signed! get it? make sense?
now, will you be man enough and admit I never said anything of what you are claiming I said? can a liberal be honest?
that is the problem with you Liberals, you want to intepret other’s peoples words to fit your whacky ideology.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:29 pmIs all this in fun, or are some of you being serious?
Please clarify….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:31 pmUKBristolDave,
made a comment about your mom? your paranoid! did I insult your mom? no kid, i insulted you as much as you and the rest of your liberals buddies on this site have been insulting me….typical of a liberal, loves to dish it out, but can’t take it…..Brits are in danger if their men are all like you….
and proved me wrong? only in your immagination! you haven’t proven anyone wrong, but you.
now try again kid….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:32 pmTry being nice to people every now and again.
That is the most hypocritical thing you’ve ever said. The pathetic human garbage who puts on fake monikers to insult me. Younever contribute anything – just think you are better than me and therefore have some right to scold me. Join reality. Every time you speak to me it is clear that you are simply projecting when you accuse me of anything.
You might not to have to rely so much on your cyber crushes.
Shows how little you know. I have no cyber crush. I don’t have to. I have real dates with actual men. It’s one of the reason’s you dislike me so much. You can’t stand that I’m happy being the opposite of you.
And my IQ is 136.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
No chance of that. Even though you once told me that under your regular moniker… I’ve never seen proof of it. You’re about 110 on your best day.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:33 pmWhat’s the matter, Princess? You stirred the pot now you want to cry “victim”?
Why do you want to drag my wife into it? Let me guess, she doesn’t fit your description of what a “real woman” is?
Sorry, babe, she is more woman than you will ever be. And by bringing her up, you are the one crossing the line.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:34 pmUkBritdave,
i hope you aren’t representative of what type of men Britian is creating? I can’t believe you are crying about me insulting you after you have insulted me in every single post you have addressed to me….
how sad and pathetic can liberals be? just read UKBrits sad posts and crying about being insulted….poor baby….do you need your mommy to help you with your ouchie?
the sad part is that yout hink you are classy! hahahahahahaha!!
what a tool, what a fool, from the left, it is UKBritDave…..
March 26th, 2007 at 5:34 pmComment by Zooey — March 26, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Actually Zooey, I think 3 out of the 4 players were having fun, one is being serious.
I’ll let you guess who……..
March 26th, 2007 at 5:36 pmI took a 5 day break from “here†and its still the same trolls saying the same stuff.
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
It isn’t any better after a 10 day break either.
I don’t think site registration is a TP priority…
March 26th, 2007 at 5:36 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
Hahahahahaha, big man hey? hehehehe, genius. I forget how much us UK blokes are cowards. Brilliant.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:38 pmit seems the right wing preschoolers are out from their talking points parroting session.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:38 pmI don’t support the ACLU. There morally demolishing american society.
By fighting against hatred and bigotry? That cult you worship really has you brain washed…
Why the need to put other people down Daryll? You feel that bad about yourself?
If there are any ACLU reps on this blog, I’m not scared of you.
Such paranoia!
I have Jesus on my side.
Only in your imagination. The man died a couple centuries ago… Proof of his moral being is all the children who are molested and nice people who get cancer and don’t get his help.
They want to eliminate Jesus in all facets of society.
Actually the Founding Fathers did that – First Amendment. Try reading it.
I don’t hate the organization, but I will tell you this, hear me now, they will eventually answer to God for your deeds.
There is no god. If there is you could prove it, but you keep dodging my requests to do so.
How can they remove God from our society?
Because it is the right thing to do. Your god generates hate and violence. We’ll be better off when people reject that crap and put the here and now as a priority.
Don’t they have a conscience?
Says the person without one. The person who wants to harass gays.
They our possessed by Satan, and need redemption.
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
You are demented. Get professional help. You’re truly sick.
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
So you believe that there’s nothing wrong living a homosexual lifestyle. Why can’t they conceive (I’m not talking about artificial insemination/fornicating with another partner). Also, if the ACLU has helped our society, why has the number HIV patients grown? Why are children able to disrespect their parents without being chastised? Why are STD’s rapid within our government? Why are homosexuals allowed to be pastors?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:38 pmUnbending,
March 26th, 2007 at 5:40 pmchill out. I’m no better than anyone else. I was tryin’ to tell you you should lighten up. bees, sugar, vinegar, ring a bell? And seeing as I don’t date actual men, there’s no jealousy there, toots. And my IQ is 136. Had it tested not long ago. It’s called tickle.com. Do I believe it, hell no, but it was fun and I have braggin’ rights. See, lighten up, ya damn upPITY thang. Life’s fun. Try it.
My ass is so big, that when I sit around the house, I sit AROUND the house.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:40 pmTP and site registration in the same sentence, thats a good one…. heh.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:41 pmsee what I mean, Unmarried?
No, human slug who thinks a smart person would butcher someone’s screen name and find it interesting, I don’t see your point. Mostly because you don’t actually have one to see.
Daryll comes here to attack gay people – a terribly oppressed minority – and I stand up to him. If you don’t get the differences it is because you are blinded by your petty jealousy and self-delusions.
No wonder. You attack everyone on this site who aint kissin’ your vegan butt.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
More projection from the self-absorbed ass who keeps missing the hypocrisy of its rants. LOL
March 26th, 2007 at 5:41 pmWhat’s the matter, Princess? You stirred the pot now you want to cry “victim�
Hearing voices again? I didn’t say that.
Why do you want to drag my wife into it? Let me guess, she doesn’t fit your description of what a “real woman†is?
The last time we had a tete-a-tete you brought her into it. That’s why.
There’s no such thing as a “real woman” robert.
Sorry, babe, she is more woman than you will ever be. And by bringing her up, you are the one crossing the line.
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Not a chance. Though you are the bigger woman by far robert.
There’s where you’re hearing the victim crying… In your own head. LOL
March 26th, 2007 at 5:44 pmDaryll give’s the ACLU wayyy too much power. Damn, he thinks they are responsible for all that stuff?
I think closeted Christians are particularly responsible for anal STD’s.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:44 pmActually Zooey, I think 3 out of the 4 players were having fun, one is being serious.
I’ll let you guess who……..
Comment by hacker bob
I think I’ll stay out of it. I had enough TP insanity yesterday.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:45 pmSeriously, Unbelievable,
I am trying to put the past in the past like a wise person does with growth. What you say today has no bearing on my view of you tomorrow.
But I will be thinking of you as I eat a big, juicy steak in a little bit.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:46 pmI’ll let you guess who……..
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
More like 2 out of 4.
My personal troll is ALWAYS in a nasty frameof mind, and you can pretend you’re joking, but you’re not fooling me.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:46 pmAshenShard,
no lilttle one, we are just talking to you kids at your educational and brain capacity….you know as you said, preschool level….most liberals never gain the brain capacity of an ant…
now keep on spewing your hate against anyone that disagrees with you on a thread from a liberal site that claims to hate hate….hahaha!!
poor libbies, so simple minded, so utterly clueless, so ill-informed.
Ashen, does it suck to wake up each morning and find out that you are still you?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:47 pmhey, for truth, got a good site for you. http://www.bored.com. There’s a section called get insulted. It has all of those kinds of jokes on there.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:48 pmUKBritDave…
do you have a picture of Chambirlin and worship him at night? you are so ill-informed that you have never heard that those that don’t know history are bound to repeat it…..man does that fit any Brit that is against the Iraq War…
Chambirlin would be proud of you kid…..peace in our times he said, right? poor you….
now wrong along and get mommy to fix your little ouchie….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:48 pmukbritdave,
c’mon run along and get your mommy to fix your ouchie….
man you put the Brits to shame….any man that would hear your crying about me insulting you should punch you to a bloody bulp….you put your country to shame…
now run along kid….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:49 pmMore like 2 out of 4.
My personal troll is ALWAYS in a nasty frameof mind, and you can pretend you’re joking, but you’re not fooling me.
Comment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
whatever, sweetcheeks. I don’t think you’re capable of fun. Too bad. I had fun, though.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:50 pmdamn, hacker, I think we got her at the wrong time of the month.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:52 pmComment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
Your personal troll must be Nully or ForTruth then, after all, you made the first comment to me, not the other way around.
I have nothing against you as a person, because I do not know you.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:52 pmSo you believe that there’s nothing wrong living a homosexual lifestyle.
As long as you are homosexual and want one – nothing is wrong with it. I support free will and the right of a consenting adult to choose his or her own life.
Why can’t they conceive (I’m not talking about artificial insemination/fornicating with another partner).
Evolution.
We have 6.5 billion people on the planet. Clearly, they don’t need to be conceiving.
Also, if the ACLU has helped our society, why has the number HIV patients grown?
Because the Catholic Church is in the areas of high risk for AIDS telling people not to use condomns. That’s why.
Why are children able to disrespect their parents without being chastised?
Where’d that come from?
Respect is a two way street. Give it and you’ll get it. Show up here like a raving and hateful lunatic, and expect the consequences to be equally intolerant of you.
Why are STD’s rapid within our government?
Our REPUBLICAN government? LOL
You know – out of all the Democratic Presidential candidates – there are only about 3 divorced combined. That’s just one more than Newt Gingrich has all on his own.
Try looking in the mirror before you start accusing people of immorality.
Why are homosexuals allowed to be pastors?
Comment by Daryll — March 26, 2007 @ 5:38 pm
I’m an Atheist. You’re the religious person – you tell me.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:53 pmThanks Nully,
I like to have fun.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:53 pmNully, ForTruth,
I like to have fun too. Anyone that was offended, I apologize.
All in good spirits.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmThe Neocon cat is so out of the bag, running all over, scratching up the furniture, spraying on the stereo and TV, crapping in the corner, having kittens in the closet.
I don’t even care about arguing with trolls. They can tell me all they want that the cat is not really there, I can see it, so can everyone else. Don’t stare too long at the pussy.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmchill out. I’m no better than anyone else.
Your actions show otherwise.
I was tryin’ to tell you you should lighten up. bees, sugar, vinegar, ring a bell?
Just because you can’t appreciate a dry sense of humor doesn’t mean I’m uptight. Hell, I work with teenagers. That’s no fun if you don’t like laughing all the time….
And seeing as I don’t date actual men, there’s no jealousy there, toots.
Fine – fake men, whatever….
And my IQ is 136. Had it tested not long ago. It’s called tickle.com.
tickle.com is not a reliable source.
Do I believe it, hell no, but it was fun and I have braggin’ rights. See, lighten up, ya damn upPITY thang. Life’s fun. Try it.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Back peddle all you want, but you know you’ve always been mean-spirited to me. If you expect to be treated as anything other than that – then you should take your own advice and lighten up yourself.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:57 pmHow the hell does Daryll know or think that STD’s are rampant within our government?
Why is this even of interest to him? Jeez, it’s almost like he WANTS to think about that kind of thing. Vienna sausages entering dirt roads and stuff.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:58 pmsame here. Although she won’t see it that way.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:58 pmSuch a wonderful comment from soon to be Private Ramode.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:58 pmunbelievable,
somebody hates the Roman Catholic Church?!!
never ceases to amaze me that liberals claim that no one should hate, unless of course you hate those that they hate….
how sad, how truly and honestly sad.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:58 pmTP and site registration in the same sentence, thats a good one…. heh.
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
A girl can dream can’t she?
:)
March 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pmhowsad,
You have been especially sad for us today. You all right?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:02 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Oh dear, you don’t get it do you.
Firstly the spelling is Chamberlain
lets sum this up
1) You don’t know how to spell Chamberlain despite me telling you how to on numerous occasions
March 26th, 2007 at 6:03 pm2) You insult the Brits. Oh we had joy we had fun we had sh!tters on the run but the fun didn’t last because the b@stards ran to fast.
unbelievable,
Also, if the ACLU has helped our society, why has the number HIV patients grown?
Because the Catholic Church is in the areas of high risk for AIDS telling people not to use condomns. That’s why.
that is half of the truth, if you can even call that….
the Church is in this area telling people to stop having promiscuous sex!
March 26th, 2007 at 6:03 pmjesus, darlin’, I’m done. I give up. But one thing I gotta point out about your oh-so-scathing response was that you aint to good on the uptake. I don’t date men. Not my bag. Nice women, yeah. Nice ones.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmwhatever, sweetcheeks. I don’t think you’re capable of fun. Too bad. I had fun, though.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
You have fun insulting and trying to harass people… That’s not what nice people do. You just verify your cruel intentions every time you comment.
damn, hacker, I think we got her at the wrong time of the month.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
You can read my posts the wrong way all you want. Doesn’t make it true.
And, the PMS jokes are tired, especially since I am chemically fixed not to have a time of the month.
You really are a mean spirited person. Calling it fun makes you sick.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmYour personal troll must be Nully or ForTruth
Comment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
‘nully’, ‘just sayin”, ’sybil’, ‘denny’, etc. It changes names and has been at it for a while.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:09 pmOh yeah, that always works best, just tell people to stop having permiscuous sex. Tell those folks over there, you know, the ones who are living in the dirt, have nothing, and can’t even understand wtf you are talking about. Yeah that works.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmAs a matter of fact, I will send an e-mail to all the Aids-ridden countries and tell them to stop having sex. That’ll work.
Thats like telling people to stop eating.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:11 pmnever ceases to amaze me that liberals claim that no one should hate, unless of course you hate those that they hate….
ALL liberals? Oh stop it…
It’s one thing to hate people because of who they are. It’s another thing to hate people because of what they do. BIG difference.
how sad, how truly and honestly sad.
Comment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Yes you are.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:11 pmI take it you believe El Che was a really nice person fighting for the poor, verdad pequenito?
Comment by howsad
Now, the spanish alphabet has a letter called eñe. And that one goes in pequeñito. Furthermore, after the word verdad comes a comma, and then the adjective you are using to describe me, which I have to say is pretty original because you may think you are insulting me. If you are going to call superiority, I would like to invite you to debate in my native tongue. How about that?
Now, about Ernesto Guevara de la Serna, or Fuser, (El Furibundo Serna), you can call him anything you want, I (and I bet he) couldnt care less. He kicked your ass in Cuba and in Angola when you were supporting South Africa. And you would have to live here in Latin America to really know what misery means (or go to Africa) then a little of that thick, dumb head you have would probably understand why revolutions are made.
Podemos seguirlo discutiendo si lo prefieres, pero más tarde. Chaucito.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pmthe Church is in this area telling people to stop having promiscuous sex!
Comment by howsad
Does that include priests?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by unbelievable — March 26, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
thanks for bringing me up to speed. I did not realize they were all one and the same.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:15 pm“Chemically Fixed”. You know that wasn’t going to go by unnoticed.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:15 pmjesus, darlin’, I’m done. I give up.
If only that were true.
You know, someone with an actual IQ if 136 would have figured out after a year that your approach is never well-received or appreciated and might have stopped already or tried something else….
But one thing I gotta point out about your oh-so-scathing response was that you aint to good on the uptake.
Oh, so you can give it, but you sure can’t take it? Well then, take your dose of medicine like a man and just stop speaking to me in this matter that you yourself do not appreciate.
I’ve been telling you for a very long time to piss off. What’s taken you so long to respect that? Hmm? You can’t control anyone but yourself. I’m not going to change to suit you – so deal with it. Yourself.
I don’t date men. Not my bag. Nice women, yeah. Nice ones.
Comment by nully — March 26, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
Nice woman will never date you. It is why you take your frustations out on me. Try therapy. I’m not interested in being your shrink… Not that I’m not qualified.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pmDaryll, what the hell does the ACLU have to do with kids not respecting their parents, gays being pastors, etc.? The ACLU helps to protect and defend citizens’ Constitutional rights. Do you have a problem with that?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
Well the hell is an ouchie?
Are you also telling me that my ancestors, who fought and died on the Somme and in Normandy, would be ashamed of me?
Please spell Chamberlain right hey?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:18 pmDoes that include priests?
Comment by Juan C — March 26, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
Touche!
March 26th, 2007 at 6:19 pmThere’s got to be a way to circumvent the “permiscuous” in permiscuous sex.
I have an idea, I can ask some of the Grand Ol Pervs how they do it.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:19 pmUnbelievable,
I still wonder what the names of your cats are. Hmmmm…..
Fluffy and Ginger…… right?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:22 pm“Chemically Fixedâ€. You know that wasn’t going to go by unnoticed
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
We had this conversation… About how women with really horrible periods don’t have to have them anymore if they can find a sympathetic doctor to prescribe continuous low dose birth control.
I did some research and though the FDA was quicker to OK twelve different varieties of pills for erectile dysfunction, they only just approved women having less periods instead of none, and how you have to find a progressive doctor to get a viable solution…. But don’t get me started on that… :)
March 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmJuan C,
yes, that includes priests who violate their sacred vow…
I am sure that we can go back and forth and you will check your spelling and grammatical Spanish errors on a word document…
now, i could give two sh…ts about grammar like you, pero si quieres podemos hacerlo en mi lenguaje natal. Soy Caraqueño, Venezolano
Y estas muy equivocado, El Che fue una mierda que mataba a niños y mujeres y lo justificaba. Solo un liberal sin moral defiende al pedazo de mierda que fue Ernesto Guevara.
anyways, to put it in terms you understand, I aint no gringo, I was born and raised in Caracas, Venezuela.
but nice assumptions from you kid.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmUKBristolDave,
yes, your ancestors who fought on D-Day and beyond and before would piss on Brits like you today who are so willing and ready to throw out the surrender flag.
and Chamberlin would adore you and hug you….
March 26th, 2007 at 6:26 pmFluffy and Ginger…… right?
Comment by ForTruth — March 26, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Noooo… LOL
There’s a reason I won’t post them.
Think about it.
The next time you forget a password…
:)
March 26th, 2007 at 6:27 pmJuan C,
but I see you were unable to answer the question or respond to the comment, instead you want to focus the attention on priests.
one of your liberal buddies said tha the Church was telling people to not use condoms, what the Church is saying is that people need to stop having promiscuous sex.
I know that you liberals think we humans are animals that can’t control our sexual urges, but the Church is telling people that that is not true. That we are human beings and as such we need to act as human beings and not as the sexual, out of control animals tha the left wing amorals would want society to believe humans are.
I could cite for you Doctors of the Church, but it would be like trying to explain rocket science to a two year old….so why waste my time.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:29 pmComment by unbelievable
Thanks for the refresher, I forgot about the conversation.
12 different ED pills, damn. I thought there were 3.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:30 pmYour cats are your passwords. Heh.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:31 pmAlright… “Fluffy and Ginger” need food… And I need to spend my Spring Break more than just this… :)
So much fun having our “virtual tryst” ForTruth… So satisfying in Daryll’s terms for not actually touching the naughty bits… LOL
Later!
March 26th, 2007 at 6:31 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
Course they would son. I remember my grandad telling me he fought for me so I wouldn’t have to. He taught me the importance of learning to turn the other cheek.
You insult my family. How dare you.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pmComment by howsad
Hence one of the failings of organized religion. There is the assumption that humans do not have any animal-like qualities and humans are so far above animals. Well I got news for ya, be in denial all ya want. We will be better off when we acknowledge our instincts and unconscious drives. The drive to reproduce is a biologically ingrained, hardwired. That’s why people who vow celibacy have problems with that.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:36 pmUKBristolDave,
Oh my, i insulted your grandpa…please, YOU insult your grandfather with your pathetic liberal views….
your grandfather said it well, he fought for you so you wouldn’t have to fight later….
take and heed his words well, because if we don’t defeat our enemies today, it will be our sons and daughters fighter our wars!
if we didn’t take Hussein out now, or if we leave Iraq now it will be our sons and daughters who will be back in Iraq in a few years fighting a war that we should have fought.
Your grandfather certainly doesn’t sound like your grandfather. Were you adopted?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:39 pmpicking ones fights does not make one a coward or always ready to surrender… picking ones battles and wars, and recognizing when one cannot be won takes thought and intelligence. only the right would advocate fighting to the end to preserve their ‘honor’, though it has more to do with insecurity with ones own manhood than anything else.
It is much better to surrender the battlefield to the enemy army, and preserve the integrity of your army, to fight another day on ground more favorable to you, and in circumstances more favorable to you than to throw it all away in one vainglorious attempt to prove ones ‘courage’.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
Jesus, how low can you get?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:42 pmfortruth…
wrong! religions assumes and knows that we have animal-like qualities, but it shows us taht we are above this depraved and degrading behaviors.
examples animials have sex when ever they are in heat. We humans also go into heat, arousal, but unlike animals, we can control this arousal. get it?
you DON’T understand organized religion or the Roman Catholic Church and you made assumptions on behalf of your lack of understanding and lack of information that you have about the Roman Catholic Church.
the Church, the Doctors of the church speak a lot about our animal instintcs and about our animal like assumptions, but they also speak to the fact that we are this and much, much more….I would suggest you educate yourself about organized religion, mainly the Roman Catholic Church before you make uneducated statements.
you see that is the problem with claiming that animals and humans have equal rights, you degrade humans.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:43 pmAshenShard,
were you read that crap in a fortune cookie? you my uneducated friend are certainly not a military person.
I am assuming that by your pathetic, supposedly philosophical post you would want our enemies to fight in our backyards since it would be more favorable for our armies to fight on US soil than in another country, right?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:45 pmUKBristolDave,
you didn’t answer, were you adopted? I mean what you claim your grandfather said is actually quite wise, but the intelligence seems to have skipped your generation.
anyway, heed your grandfathers words, because your Europeans will be fighting a big war against Islam soon, you will. You have turned a complete blind eye to the monstrocity that Islamic Fundamentalist are. You have allowed them in your house, bed, country, and they are after to destroy you.
and Britian having becoming one of the most laughingly politically correct nations in the world will pay the price, your sons and daughters will pay the price of your stupidity. heed your grandparents words well, well that is of course if you haven’t been adopted, then you don’t know who your grandfather is….
March 26th, 2007 at 6:48 pmhowsad,
I work for the Roman Catholic Church.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:52 pmfortruth…
now i have heard them all….why do you liberals always hide behind the…
“I didn’t vote for Clinton…”
“I served in the military…”
now the ultimate…
“I work fo the RCC…”
wow….it can’t get any better and more laughable than this.
you guys do get an A for trying, but you guys fail miserably.
if you worked for the RCC you would not have made the lack of theological understanding statement that religions assume humans are not like animals.
that is what the Roman Catholic Church teaches us to fight against, ourselves, our own animal instincts. So, i very much doubt that you work for the RCC. I mean you could work for it, I mean the problem with the world today is that ignorance is rampant about everything and I mean everything. and there are plenty of Roman Cahtolic Church members that claim to be Catholics, but have no clue to what it is to be a true Roman Catholic. yes, even the monsters that molest children, the less than 2% of the priest that have done this are ignorant of the fact of what it is to be a true roman catholic.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:58 pmComment by howsad — March 26, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
Of course I wasn’t I adopted. The point is that we in Europe have seen what total war does and we don’t want it anymore. I’ll give you an example
1st July 1916. Battle of the Somme. 60,000 British casualties in 24 hours.
Can you hear that? Dolce et decorum est? Do you understand why we don’t want war anymore?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pmhowsad,
Believe what you want to. That is the basis for any religion. You seem to have positioned yourself to be intellectually superior on this board. So since you know it all, how about some solutions to some of these messes?
March 26th, 2007 at 7:02 pmOh, I wholeheartedly admit I’m not a military person, but you don’t need to be in the military to have an understanding of strategy. Just an extended knowledge of history.
George Washington and the Continental Congress understood the necessity of preserving the army. You have no army, you lose the war. That is why they gave up NYC and then Philadelphia, the capital of the Congress. 90% of the marching done by the army was in retreat! Now, who won that war?
When you have two opposing armies you do not just run into battle and engage them. You wait, you march, you calculate. When your opponent makes a mistake, you strike. Unfortunately, we blundered into Iraq, which was not even associated with our enemies in the ‘war on terror’ and our opponent is striking again and again and again. We may be winning battles, but we will lose the war. It is time to get out, and focus on Afghanistan, and hold our reserve to strike where our opponent makes a mistake.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:04 pmUKBristolDave,
Alright to be serious for a second….war is horrific, i mean horrific, for the soldiers and more so for the children and women that have nothing to do with it. But wars are necessary, as long as we are human beings there will be wars and you are naive if you think that wars will end.
It is well known in the Americas that you Europeans have been shocked by the horrors of wars, you guys lost generations of people do to wars, but you can’t hide your head in the sand like Chamberlin did. Sometimes you have to fight a war that you didn’t want to in order ot secure the future of generations that are still to come, right?
I truly and honestly believe that if didn’t remove Husseim from power and that if now we leave IRaq before it is stable, we will be back in Iraq and it will be our children fighting this war.
I mean think about it….what about if your grandfather’s generation would all have been like Chamberlin, where would the world be today? I can assure you that we would have fought Nazi Germany at a later date!
or how about if the world would have confronted Hitler in 1933, when he wasn’t as powerful as he was in 1939, how many less people would have died and suffer if the Brits and the world wouldn’t have listened to the likes of Chamberlin, right?
March 26th, 2007 at 7:07 pmAshenShard,
are you comparing the situation that George Washington’s army was in during the American Revolutionary War to our armed forces today?
please, please, please tell me you are not….
and sorry, Iraq has everything to do with the war on terror. I have never understood why you Liberals want to make Iraq an isolated thing that is not related to the war on terror.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:10 pm#366 UKBristolDave
We’ve experienced total war … American Civil War … unfortunately the right prefers to celebrate the glory of the war rather than the inhumanity and suffering. The problem was our stupid generals who fought the war for glory and honor, charged right in rather than adapting tactics. Of course, that is excused by the argument that Gen. Lee was a brilliant general and thus was able to outsmart the North, which is bull. He was playing defense and the Northern Generals just made frontal assault after frontal assault. Lee was no better, mediocre like most of the rest, he proved that at Gettysburg.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:13 pmAshenShard,
One more thing, George Washington would have never won the American Revolutionay War without the help of the French.
Like a good liberal you are simplifying a very completed war in order for it to fit your warped mind.
Washington was very worried that his army, not for lack of want, but for lack of experience and equipment could in no way shape or form defeat the English. Reason Benjemin Franklin spent over a year in FRance convincing the French that America needed its help.
don’t be such a simpleton.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:15 pmYeah, I’m comparing it, because no matter what the technology, every war is basically the same. Drop all the bombs you want, you drop them on the wrong target, your screwed.
Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror, Afghanistan did. Now of course by invading Iraq we have shown what fools we are and how weak we are. We’ve weakened ourselves. Heck, if Mexico wanted to they could attack us right now and win since most of our national guard units are also either deployed in Iraq or depleted from deployment. If we leave, it may turn to chaos, it may not, but if we stay we will fall harder than the USSR.
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March 26th, 2007 at 7:18 pmamazing, you liberals prefer to live in tyrany before dying to fight for your freedom and that of your children.
only you liberals….as it was said during the american revolution, I rathe die fighting on my feet than live on my knees…..
you liberals seem to want to live on your knees rather than die fighting for your freedoms on your feet.
how truly and honestly sad…..
the islamic fundamentalists don’t have to fight a war against you liberals, they have already won against you….the only people they have to defeat are the conservatives.
and we will fight for your freedoms, don’t worry regardless of your political stands and morals.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:19 pmThe French would have been no help if Washington had not preserved our army! If there was no rebellion forces in the colonies, what purpose would the French have in supporting us? None, because we would have been defeated well before the French had time to help us.
And that bring me to another point, which you have helped to illustrate already. You need allies to help you win wars. We cannot go this alone, and the few allies we had supporting us in Iraq are leaving because they know it is useless!
March 26th, 2007 at 7:20 pmAshenShard,
1) You can’t compare the American Revolutionary war to any of today’s war. There was no such thing as dropping a bomb back then…please!!
2)If we leave and it turns to chaos, then what…what do we do when that chaos start spreading accross the middle east? How about if the French thought like you and said….forget the Americans, they can bit the English or not…who cares….I mean you claim to care for human beings, right? I am sure you care about children….if it turns into chaos, what happens to the Iraqi children, do you care? I guess you liberals only care about human rights when it makes the USA look bad, right? and if it turns to chaos, do you honestly believe we won’t HAVE TO go back? our children won’t have to go back? think, think, THINK!
3)Iraq has a lot to do with the war on terror, beginning with Hussein giving money to Palestenian terrorists, given aid and comfort to the likes of Al Zarqawi and allowing terrorist groups to train in Iraq….
4)and weakend, why? because the media said so? we have over 2 million armed forces personnel combined in our Coast Guard, Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines, 150,000 of them are in Iraq, and you claim we are weak because that is what you have been conditioned to believe by the left.
wow, think on your own.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:23 pmUm, yeah, every war requires strategy, tactics, personnel, and munitions/weapons. If you waste it all in one go, rush in for the glory, you are going to lose.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:26 pmAshenShard,
wow, you have been truly conditioned to believe that we are using all our ammuniations and war material in Iraq….wow! incredible.
let me tell you a little secret the left and the left politicians don’t want you to know…THAT IS NOT TRUE!
and as for us going it at it alone…wow, I seem to remember that we aren’t going at it alone….and I certainly wouldn’t want the French and the Germans to help us out. They have been and always werer on the side of Hussein. More than enough documentation to show that the German and French government had been bought by Hussein to derail the USA before and during the war.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:31 pmyour comparison between the American Revolution and today’s Iraq War is beyond ridiculous…but leave it to a liberal to run with the ridiculous
March 26th, 2007 at 7:36 pmIt is only ridiculous to a mind incapable of comprehension.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:40 pmAshenShard,
only a liberal would try to equate the American Revolution to the Iraq War.
wow….do you believe the bull crap you write? honestly, do you? or do you pretend one of the biggest morons, ill-informed fools that have ever walked on planet Earth? how do you liberal walk around spewing such ridiculous nonesense. wow, only fools and individuals with an IQ of 20 would believe the kind of crap you guys spew.
your crap is only comprehensible to you because you eat your own crap.
sorry kid, you have been conditioned by the left and your left wing gods to believe the crap you spew.
tell me, how does it feel to not have the capicity to think by yourself, tool.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:48 pmThere once was a Sgt. Marcia Ramode
Whose squat face resembled a BIG TOAD
She MUCH MALIGNED a Gay
When she opened HER VILE YAP to say
FOOLISH, CROAKING CALUMNY—-A WHOLE SHITLOAD!!!!!
So LET US STEP ON THIS SHE-TOAD
By the ACCURSED NAME of Marcia Ramode
TROMP Her LOATHESOME CARCASE FLAT
LIKE A TOOTHPASTE TUBE SQUEEZE OUT HER STINKING FAT
Then FLUSH HER STINKING CORPSE DOWN THE COMMODE!!!!!
SNAP! THAT TO YA, “Sgt.” She-SNORKLE Marcia Ramode, YOU F*CKING LOATHESOME PIECE OF WARTY TOAD-CRAP SHIT!!!!! AND A SLAP!SLAP!SLAP!SLAP!SLAP! IN YA TOAD-FACE, BITCH!!!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 7:51 pmYou only wish I could not think for myself, but because I am that makes me a danger. I guess it is only natural since you seem to be educationally challenged, like most on the right wing. You cannot even understand the comparison I am making because you don’t think about it. But obviously that cannot be helped since you have decided to let your braincells lay dormant. Too bad, but I guess it is the fate of the right to wallow in the filth in its glorified ignorance.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:55 pmSimilarities between American Revolution and Iraq insurgency – the insurgents won both. Yes past tense.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pmComment by AshenShard — March 26, 2007 @ 7:13 pm
It wasn’t quite total war but I appreciate the pain bud. All I can say is that my grandparents saw Europe destroyed and as a result we regard war as the last option.
The US has never experienced this and that’s a good thing for you guys. However, it does shield you from the reality of modern war
March 26th, 2007 at 8:18 pmAshenShard,
oh little one, you are so desperate to believe that your life has some meaning and purpose that you are willing to lie about yourself and who you are.
sorry kid, I hate to break it to you, but you CAN’T THINK FOR YOURSELF! and that is what makes you liberals so dangerous.
believe me, you have spoken to one liberal, you have spoken to all…
there is no argument you have given me here that I haven’t heard by liberals friends use, or my libeals co-workers use. You all sound the same an dthe sad part is that you all debate with the same hate America angle.
believe me kid, you are but a sad, sad, sad tool.
but you are so blind by your hate, vitrol, venom, and the left wing propaganda that you can’t see what an ridiculous tool you are. Lennin said it best when speaking about the left wing morons that followed him….useful idiots, useful fools….take your pick, you fit both well.
only an uneducated fool like yourself would make any type of comparison between Washignton armies and our army today, don’t worry, i don’t expect you to see how it is impossible to compare them. I don’t expect much from liberals, you guys never fail to meet my expectations, which are lower than that of my pet iguana.
and look at your friend TerrytheTurtle, so brainwashed by the left that he dares insult George Washington by comparing to the terrorists, who kill women and children and who also use these as human shields.
how sick, digusting and whacked the left is…
thanks for the laughs, AshenShard, but your completly uneducated, ill-informed, robotic posts are boring me. You liberals aren’t even good enough to amuse us intellects.
now go play along with the rest of the liberal children….
March 26th, 2007 at 8:21 pmI really want some effing solutions howsad.
I’m looking up to you now.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:26 pmhowsad certainly is obsessed with other commenters’ lack of education.
I think he protests too much.
I smell a GED.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:30 pmComment by Zooey — March 26, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Christ, see the epic me and howsad got stuck into. It was like pulling teeth.
Then he insulted my family.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:37 pmUKDave,
I’m sure you could tell howsad is an ignoramous. He read the article of the day on Wikipedia, and now he’s brilliant.
Only a khazer gets personal with insults.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:41 pmHowsad – you seem to persist in putting words in people’s mouths. I guess that makes you a liar. I was holding out for idiot for you, but well I never compared George Washington to anyone I just pointed out how insurgencies usually end… as this one in Iraq will. If you would care to point out where I said that please go right ahead and try not to make any racist statements against the turtle race – ‘green bastard’, ’scale features’, ‘when was the .last time you saw your todger’ kinds of stuff. You know.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:46 pmAnd leave my grandad out of it too. Really you are coming across as not a nice fellow right now…perhaps some diversity training would help. After all the Brits have been the fig-leaf on US foreign policy for so long – cut them some slack, eh Adolph?
March 26th, 2007 at 8:50 pmWow – post 376 is a crock of shit isn’t? Does Howsad get all his history from old Mel Gibson and Chuck Norris films? I have trouble with the big threads when I am in airports on my treo… I missed that one…. Stalin would love that stuff…
March 26th, 2007 at 8:56 pm#388 Zooey
I think he is jealous that my GPA is larger than his.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:57 pmLike I said, TerrytheTurtle, that’s a GED walking.
March 26th, 2007 at 8:57 pmZoo what’s a ‘khazer’? I know what a ‘khazi’ is….. but WTF?
March 26th, 2007 at 8:58 pmhowsad, you have been out smarted by the Prog. Tuck tail while you still have one.
UKDave,
How many years of war did Europe suffer before they learned? Remember, we are a young nation. We are still learning. Brittan thought it was king, until some “insurgents” handed them their a$$.
March 26th, 2007 at 9:10 pmHacker Bob – would you please help your country grow up a bit quicker, please?
March 26th, 2007 at 9:21 pmHacker Bob – the sooner the US grows up then the better. I note that the British had to choose in 1947 to either walk away from empire or lose their soul – they ‘chose wisely’ thanks to social democratic power in the post-war period…
March 26th, 2007 at 9:24 pmWhat will the US do – walk away from Empire or destroy the most significant democratic experiment in history. The Howsads of this country seem to have already chosen – I’ve never liked brown…..
March 26th, 2007 at 9:49 pmHacker Bob – would you please help your country grow up a bit quicker, please?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — March 26, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
I’m working on it on my level…
March 26th, 2007 at 9:59 pmZoo what’s a ‘khazer’? I know what a ‘khazi’ is….. but WTF?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Khazer = Pig
March 26th, 2007 at 9:59 pmHowsad he clocked out for the day.
March 26th, 2007 at 10:05 pmFortruth – I suspect that the ‘Angry Sons of the Confederacy’ have some yard work on tonight
March 26th, 2007 at 10:13 pmComment by hacker bob — March 26, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
Good way to remind me that the UK and the US are allies these days.
Sheeet, it’s not as if the rep of the US is in the toilet at all is it?
March 26th, 2007 at 10:22 pmAllies? UkDave – not with the new Trident vote. Dennis Healy was right – its just a ‘rent a rocket’ nuclear deterrent. The UK is the 51st state, not an ally – prove us wrong please. And put the Carlyle Group on your ‘persona non grata’ list…
March 26th, 2007 at 10:26 pm#70
Daryll, I looked at the passages that you said that show that God condemned homosexuality (Genesis 19)And there is nothing there that says anything about homosexuality. In fact, to quote the passage:
Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
But I did find this. I guess God likes incest:
Genesis 33: And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
I haven’t looked at the others yet but I’ll bet they don’t say anything either. I’ll report as I check the others out.
March 27th, 2007 at 1:38 amOh, and if Leviticus doesn’t apply to Genitils, then you can’t use any anti-homosexuality against them either.
March 27th, 2007 at 1:41 amY estas muy equivocado, El Che fue una mierda que mataba a niños y mujeres y lo justificaba. Solo un liberal sin moral defiende al pedazo de mierda que fue Ernesto Guevara.
anyways, to put it in terms you understand, I aint no gringo, I was born and raised in Caracas, Venezuela.
but nice assumptions from you kid.
Comment by howsad
estás lleva acento en la a. Después de una coma no se escriben mayúsculas a menos que sean nombres propios. Si eres hispanoparlante, hazlo bien y no nos averguences a los demás.
I am so sorry to notice you have been brainwashed by the propaganda machine. The only way you can come back from stupidity and ignorance is reading. You can watch any football game in Europe and you will find the banner of El Che, why? Because they are well informed. They know who he was. But Im betting you want the old nice years of Batista and his thugs back.
Hasta la victoria, siempre! :)
March 27th, 2007 at 1:42 amDaryll – OK, Judges 19:22-26 doesn’t say anything either. I think you are just grasping at straws here.
22Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.
23And the man, the master of the house, went out unto them, and said unto them, Nay, my brethren, nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly; seeing that this man is come into mine house, do not this folly.
24Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing.
25But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.
26Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light.
March 27th, 2007 at 1:47 amthanks for the laughs, AshenShard, but your completly(SIC) uneducated, ill-informed, robotic posts are boring me. You liberals aren’t even good enough to amuse us intellects(SIC)
now go play along with the rest of the liberal children….
Comment by howsad
Howsad that you think, with all your misspellings (including Chamberlain’s name several times even after being specifically told how to spell it), bad grammar, poor punctuation, etc., you come across as educated or intellectual. And, of course, you engage in the typical rightwing tactic of calling liberals/progressives “hatemonguers(SIC),” all the while spewing dozens of posts of pure venom. Your moniker is quite appropriate because you are a true sadsack and poor excuse for a human being.
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March 27th, 2007 at 4:53 am#407 Genesis 19
Yeah, I don’t see anything about being gay in there… however I do see Lot getting drunk and knocking up both his daughters.
The bible has a lot of trash in it.
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