Gonzales Aide To Invoke Fifth Amendment
Gonzales Aide To Invoke Fifth Amendment
The AP reports that Alberto Gonzales’ ex-chief of staff Kyle Sampson plans to invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse some Senate questions when he appears at a Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday.
UPDATE: It’s Goodling, not Sampson. “Monica Goodling, a counsel to U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who helped coordinate the dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys, will invoke her constitutional right not to answer Senate questions about the firings, her lawyer said. … ‘The hostile and questionable environment in the present congressional proceedings is at best ambiguous; more accurately the environment can be described as legally perilous for Ms. Goodling,’ [her lawyer John Dowd] said.”
UPDATE II: For his part, Sampson will stay loyal to Bush and Gonzales in his testimony: “‘Kyle is very much a supporter of the president and the attorney general,’ one friend tells CNN. ‘His main interest is in telling the truth.’ The friend says Sampson would ‘never do anything to hurt any of them’ and doesn’t believe his version of events will do that. Friends say Sampson believes innocent bungling was more to blame for the firestorm over the firings than anything malicious.”
UPDATE III: Atrios notes a reasonable comment from right-wing CNN contributor Terry Jeffrey:
It’s not good, apparently her lawyer is trying to suggest they’re building a perjury trap for people in the Justice Department. But the truth is, Wolf, Congress – its Judiciary Committees – they have oversight over the Justice Department. It is inexcusable for people in the Justice Department to take the 5th amendment to avoid testifying in Congress. People there must go testify. There’s no question about it.
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March 26th, 2007 at 3:56 pmThat will be good to get on tape.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:56 pmSend him to Gitmo and he’ll start singing like a canary.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pmTaking the 5th amendment is the unofficial admission of guilt! Sampson’s up to it to his eyeballs. The people will call for a criminal investigation against Sampson is he doesn’t cooperate. Let him have it his way though and his unwillingness to cooperate will be translated as “guilt” by the people who will call for prison time for SimpySampy.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pmI am telling the truth therefore I refuse to incriminate myself.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThe Fifth Amendment is guaranteed to any non-terrorist citizen.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pmSounds like the Kefauver hearings. Is he bringing his consigliore with him?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pm#3 Just what I was thinking!
March 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pmHe’ll sing eventually when he realizes that he’s become the latest “fall guy” for Bush. When he’s deserted by his cronnies and is facing criminal charges, he’ll sing like a canary.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:59 pmThis is going to resemble a mafia don trial the further it goes.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:59 pmAccording to TPM, it’s Monica Goodling, not Kyle Sampson. MSNBC banner just says “Gonzales Aide”.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:00 pmDidn’t he f*cking VOLUNTEER to testify?
Film of Sampson taking the 5th better be on every newscast in this country.
Explain that, Gonzo.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:00 pmbush’s black house has declared war on the american justice system and the roots of our democracy. He’s become “Public Enemy #1″ and will be impeached, indicted, and probably imprisoned someday himself – BY THE PEOPLE.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:00 pmNot Sampson, but Goodling, apparently.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:01 pm#10 Mafia Don Trial = Bush Crime Family Trial
March 26th, 2007 at 4:01 pmupdate :
Breaking off the AP wire: DoJ official Monica Goodling to take the 5th at upcoming congressional hearing.
(ed.note: The original version of this post, which ran for just under ten minutes, incorrectly listed Kyle Sampson rather than Monica Goodling, as the the DOJ aide who plans to take the 5th at this week’s senate hearing. We regret the error.)
March 26th, 2007 at 4:01 pmBoth my Senators and my Republican (uncontested) Congressman say that impeachment is out of the question…they will soon find that we have been right all along…Impeachment is the answer to all this graft and crime. These people will not play according to the constitution. If we do not impeach this son of a bitch he will find some way to declare marshall law and become a dictator. There has been absolutely nothing good happen under the Republicans.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:02 pmWhy volunteer to testify and then turn around and plead the fifth?
Has Mr. Sampson been threatened or blackmailed?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:02 pmNope – different aide taking 5th: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013263.php
March 26th, 2007 at 4:02 pmLet’s see…the 5th keeps witnesses from self-incriminating testimony so that must mean that some of the actions in the firing of US attnys was criminal (at least in the mind of those involved). Hmmm….
No one would need to plead the 5th if this was a routine purge of pres-appointed positions. Once again the repub points are all lies and/or distortions.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pmKyle something in my pants to incriminate myself Sampson
March 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pm#6 Jake: listen to the big bad guy run and hide behind “rights”…what’s he got to hide, hm?
Or, to put the logic of your ilk on it: Sampson is suspected, therefore Sampson deserves no rights.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pm–
My government teacher told me you couldn’t refuse to answer questions before Congress if you were granted immunity (no fear of incriminating yourself). Certainly they have bigger fish to fry than Sampson; wouldn’t this deal make sense?
the environment can be described as legally perilous for Ms. Goodling,’ – - Ya think?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pmThe Fifth Amendment is guaranteed to any non-terrorist citizen.
Comment by Jake
I understand this is a fact, but it also smacks of guilt.
The cookie jar is broken and the person standing next to the shards of the jar with cookie crumbs on her face is pleading the 5th. Just tell the TRUTH!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pmthe environment can be described as legally perilous for Ms. Goodling,’ –
Alligators – Ms Goodling’s ass.
Ms Goodling, meet the alligators!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:07 pmFriends say Sampson believes innocent bungling was more to blame – - This administration uses that excuse more often than someone resigning “to spend more time with their family.” Incompetent or corrupt, there’s really not much diffference.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:08 pmI always thought that taking the 5th meant that if you answered with the truth, you would be incriminating yourself, so you won’t answer. In other words, you are guilty, but you won’t verify that with your statements.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pmRemember Mark Furman pleading the fifth in the O.J. trial?? Think he ever used the “N” word?? This administration is full of lairs and crooks.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pmms goodling is a graduate of messiah college and liberty university law school. seriously.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pmThe Fifth Amendment is guaranteed to any non-terrorist citizen. – - Great, I think we now need to define what constitutes a terrorist.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pmOh, boy, that constitution sure is a handy G_DAmn piece of paper when they need it eh Jake?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pmGonzales lied to congress and his subordinates have changed their story on why the prosecutors were fired numerous times.
That they would do all of this to cover up “innocent bungling” is simply not believable.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:11 pm“The Justice Department also said yesterday that Monica Goodling, a senior counselor to Gonzales who worked closely with Sampson on the firings, took an indefinite personal leave from her job on (Last)Monday. A Justice official said that she is still employed there but that it is not clear when she will return.”
March 26th, 2007 at 4:11 pmSo does that mean that he’s going to perjure himself?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:12 pmProud Dem:
The fact that Ms. Goodling will face a hostile and questionable environment in the present congressional proceedings is at best ambiguous; more accurately the environment can be described as legally perilous for her, even if she had nothing to hide — the fact that someone invoked their Fifth Amendment rights cannot be used against any defendant in a court of law either — an offer of immunity is another kettle of fish all together.
Yachts and Lattes:
My “ilk” are Conservative Christians, registered Independent because we have no King but Jesus – who are your ilk?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:12 pmThe Fifth Amendment is guaranteed to any non-terrorist citizen.
Comment by Jake
Well the way the Patriot Act loosely defines terrorist……..
Monica something up my dress but I aint saying Gooding.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmWonderful wiretapping, and other issues, talking point from the administration, “if you don’t have anything to hide . . .”
March 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmSampson will remain loyal and accuse his department of being stupid, but not criminal. Well, if you are incompetent or if you are criminal, you don’t remain in office.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmNeither one is attractive. Bush only knows how to hire people like himself – stupid or criminal – or both.
Ok, so not Sampson, but Goodling.
Obviously, if she’s taking the 5th, she knows she did something illegal. That never looks good, I don’t care how cute you are.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmIt’s just an innocent little Kerfuffle, a harmless little skullduggery, it’s just political positioning, a guffaw..
Look over there LIBBY!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pmkyle appears to prefer jail over execution for failing to follow the party orders. surprise surprise
March 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pmHmmm, When THEY want to eliminate rights for citizens, that’s perfectly all right — but when they NEED to invoke a right for themselves, they are right there.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pmThe Bill of Rights protects them – but they don’t want it to protect us from them.
Hypocrites.
For the record, several Hollywood witnesses took the Fifth before the House Committee on Un-American Activities and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee even though they had nothing to hide either. You guys remember that, right?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:16 pmWill this be Bush’s “Monica?”
March 26th, 2007 at 4:17 pmThe Fifth Amendment is guaranteed to any non-terrorist citizen.
Comment by Jake
No one would need to plead the 5th if this was a routine purge of pres-appointed positions.
Comment by Bob
Both statements are correct, although my understanding is that the 5th is guaranteed to all citizens, period. They are definitely entitled to not answer questions, but it is something of a non-admission admission of wrongdoing, especially in this environment that the Bush Crime Family has created.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:18 pmWanna know the real reason the people in the Middle East don’t like us? It doesn’t have anything to do with our freedoms, as Canada has the same freedoms and they aren’t a target.
Nope, this is the reason.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:18 pmHollywood does not work for me. The Government does.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:19 pm#46 You’re exactly right
March 26th, 2007 at 4:20 pm#46 spudgeboy
March 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmVery clear graphic!!
Isn’t the Fifth Ammendment just so quaint and obsolete. Yes, I think so too.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pm#43
Yeah Jake we remember.
Now do you remember what happened to their careers afterwards?
Hopefully the same thing will happen here.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmComment by marcus robinson — March 26, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Oh Shit marcus! Don’t tell me Furman’s gonna be the next AG???~~~!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmSo, it’s Monica “Badling” who will have to be pressed for her testimony, eh? Invoking the 5th doesn’t work and she will soon wish she’d never made the decision to do so. Life will become much less tolerable for Ms. Monica if this is her choice. There’s a feeding frenzy out there among people right now and they will be unwavering & relentless with anyone trying to obstruct the Truth is “Purgegate”….
BTW, what ever happened to HookerGate and PredatorGate? They’re still out there bobbing and spinning and soon will pop up to the surface….what’ll it be this week, folks? Take your pick…..the entire “Panoply of Pernicious & Insidious Corruption” is all there in this white house….just a matter of time.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmPleading the Fifth = Unofficial Admission of total & unequivocal GUILT, GUILT, GUILT. Hah, Monica will wish she’s cooperated when the people are through with the likes of this liar.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:23 pmMy “ilk†are Conservative Christians, registered Independent because we have no King but Jesus – who are your ilk?
Comment by Jake
Jake what was the morning star?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:23 pma citizen:
Even government employees have Constitutional rights.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:24 pmThe Bush Crime Family has effectively destroyed this country – what old soggy brain Pappy began, old alchey-addled brain handily finished.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:24 pmparty before country!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:25 pm..don’t know if this tidbit from yesterday was posted here or not:
Attorney General Gonzales among officials who allegedly ignored abuse of minor boys
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54861
March 26th, 2007 at 4:27 pmpgw:
That’s why I’m registered Independent ; )
March 26th, 2007 at 4:27 pmHahaha…I’m so full of shit. Just kidding. Wait. I’m serious. Mommy! I have a pooy diaper!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:28 pmMy “ilk†are Conservative Christians, registered Independent because we have no King but Jesus – who are your ilk?
Maybe I missed that explanation before, but I think we might have some common ground here, spiritually speaking anyway. Obviously we disagree from a political perspective, since I think Bush is trying to make himself a king. As a conservative Christian myself (Southern Baptist) I find this regime are no kind of conservatives (I see them as fascists), they hide behind the Lord but (my opinion only) blasphemize His teachings. In the end I rely on my faith that He is always in control and everything will ultimately work itself out on His timing.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:29 pmEven government employees have Constitutional rights.
Comment by Jake
But Libby should be pardoned because?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:29 pmNewt had an affair?
Foley was a perv?
Gonzalez lied under oath?
Abramoff was charged?
Port deals?
Cunningham had prostitutes?
That’s why I’m registered Independent ; )
Comment by Jake
Your Lord was Sovereign. As am I.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pmMy WTF-Incredulometer siren just woke me up from my afternoon nap.
Jakers saying he’s a registered Indedpendent.
In Missouri, you can register in the town of Independence, then you can say youaaa re a registered Independence,
March 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pmbut a shill is a shill is a shill, even registered in the Communist Worker’s part y or the Whigs.
You can say you are an independent until you are blue in the fingers, but it doesn’t make you one. You are beholden to the Bush administration, just like my Conservative Christian mother and father. You are a pawn being used. You are called literally “wackos” by these people and yet you still bow down and anoint their feet. Sucker.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:31 pmWhat you are registered as has no bearing on the policies and ideologies you push. You are a neo con. Nothing more, nothing less. You are in fact a neocon b!tch, because they only want your vote and don’t give a crap about you.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:32 pmCONservative:
Southern Baptist here too — we are going to have to agree to disagree that Bush is anywhere close to a KING though (for instance, we know, worse case scenario, his term ends January 20, 2009 ; )
March 26th, 2007 at 4:33 pmGod is in control, regardless.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:35 pmI LOVE that she is taking the 5th. It means that there is GOLD (Bushie Crimes) not far away.
Go, Leahy and Conyers and Waxman and….
God Bless America, the Democrats, and the WORLD!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:36 pmWrong Jake, worst case scenario is Bush gets impeached. The 22nd amendment won’t be going anywhere, so it looks like this is you best case scenario.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:38 pmNo one’s arguing that Monica does not have a right to plead the fifth, Jake.
What we’re saying is that she would have no reason to if, as you and others loyal to Bush have maintained, this was a “made up” scandal with no underlying criminal activity.
That she has to plead the fifth to avoid incriminating herself means that she is aware of facts that would incriminate her. Surely, you understand this, right?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:39 pmIf you believe in God. Other wise, somebody else or yourself is in control.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:39 pmSouthern Baptist here too — we are going to have to agree to disagree that Bush is anywhere close to a KING though (for instance, we know, worse case scenario, his term ends January 20, 2009 ; )
Comment by Jake
Well yeah ultimately you’re right. Martial law and what not aside our time here isn’t eternal. You just reminded me of our pastor’s message yesterday, he talked about life not being ‘fair’ and the first thing that came to my mind was Bush, that with all the (I believe) harm he is doing to our country as a believer he will spend eternity where you and I will too, if it’s really ‘fair’. I hope I didn’t scare everybody else on here with that thought.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmHey Jake you ever met the Christ?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmGod is in control, regardless.
Comment by Jake
Proof required to verify
March 26th, 2007 at 4:43 pmPlease link to a reliable source.
For those NOT on the “Ignore List” did you think that everyone who took the Fifth before the House Committee on Un-American Activities was hiding something too? I think the feeding frenzy analogy is apt: “The hostile and questionable environment in the present congressional proceedings is at best ambiguous . . .”
March 26th, 2007 at 4:44 pm‘The hostile and questionable environment in the present congressional proceedings is at best ambiguous; more accurately the environment can be described as legally perilous for Ms. Goodling,’ [her lawyer John Dowd] said.â€
Apparently Mr. Dowd is concerned that the committee may ask his client questions that are somewhat more probing than, “Are you a Democrat or a Republican?”
March 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmCONservative:
Christ died for Bush’s sins just as He did for your sins — not one is righteous in the eyes of a Holy God.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmCONservative,
You can be as religious as you like, as long as you don’t push it on others as Jake is doing. It is up to you what to believe in. It is when Jake pretends to be all knowing because he has God on his side that some may get annoyed. I don’t push what I believe in on anybody, so I don’t understand why others feel the need to push their beliefs on others. It is egotistical to think you are better than others as Jake does. I think that would fall under vanity.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmActually, according to the Bible, god is on vacation until the second coming. During which time he gave the keys to the planet to satan. I guess I could have read that wrong, but it sure explains alot of things. Especially who it is that is speaking to Bush and giving him his marching orders.
Just a thought.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:46 pmChrist died for Bush’s sins just as He did for your sins — not one is righteous in the eyes of a Holy God.
Comment by Jake
For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It’s always good to get a reminder of this. Thanks.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:47 pmHouse Committee on Un-American Activities was a with hunt in the same breed as the McCarthy’s Communist witch hunt. The difference is that somebody here, Alberto Gonzales, lied in front of Congress.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:49 pmChrist died for Bush’s sins just as He did for your sins — not one is righteous in the eyes of a Holy God.
Comment by Jake
So then you should not judge, lest you be judged
March 26th, 2007 at 4:49 pmbluefish:
Unfortunately for the Congressman who asked Valerie Plame that question, the Dems had provided a list of other questions he wanted to ask that were prohibited.
CONservative:
Amen!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:50 pmCONservative,
You can be as religious as you like, as long as you don’t push it on others
No, I don’t believe in that. I have no problem discussing my faith with others, but I think it’s wrong to try to IMPOSE it on those who do not share it. Big difference.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:50 pmShouldn’t be too difficult to prove guilt without her self-incriminating testimony! These people leave a trail any Cub Scout could follow.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:51 pmI thought this post was about taking the 5th, and we’re all here talking about religion. I didn’t mean to sidetrack the topic, but praise the Lord all the same.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:52 pmHow then can a political party or group use the name of Jesus to judge anothers morals if none of ye are righteous?
March 26th, 2007 at 4:52 pmDid Ms. Goodling ever testify before Congress? If not, it seems that there is not an obviously provable charge (lying to Congress) that would put her in “legal jeopardy.” Which leads me to believe that it is true that one or more of the AG’s were fired to derail an ongoing investigation into a Republican…as well as to put pressure on surviving AG’s to more aggressivly investigate Dems (especially in the guise of voter fraud)..and she knew the motive and participated in helping to carry it out. I think they call that “conspiracy to obstruct justice.”
March 26th, 2007 at 4:54 pm“God is in control, regardless.”
So I guess this past 7 years has been a cosmic joke and perhaps God is finally putting a wrap on it? We can only hope.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThat’s all I ask.
Religion has its merits. Jesus taught many great thing about how to treat other people and how to be an overall good person.
My mother on the other hand is the evangelical Christian type who preaches to everybody she meets. I am like “What if that guy is Jewish?” and says “Well then he needs to be converted.” Oy!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThe guy’s got three choices:
1. Tell the truth and incriminate Gonzo
March 26th, 2007 at 4:56 pm2. Lie and commit perjury
3. Take the 5th
How then can a political party or group use the name of Jesus to judge anothers morals if none of ye are righteous?
Comment by Zep Tepi
Ahh touche!
March 26th, 2007 at 4:57 pmInnocent Bystander:
I hold the opinion that God raised Bush for such a time as we found ourselves after 9/11 — For there is no power but from God: the powers that are, are ordained by God — Romans 13:1
March 26th, 2007 at 4:59 pmMy mother on the other hand is the evangelical Christian type who preaches to everybody she meets. I am like “What if that guy is Jewish?†and says “Well then he needs to be converted.†Oy!
Comment by Spudge_Boy
I presume he answer would be the same if they were Catholic? I only ask cause my best friend is Catholic. I’d be saying oy too if I was you!
March 26th, 2007 at 5:00 pmJake,
I believe that the Hollywood Ten pleaded the 1st amendment, not the 5th. Not that it matters much in this case as I hope you realize that the there is a very big difference between asking “Is Karl Rove a crook?” and “Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
Believe it or not, it is perfectly legal to be both a screenwriter and a member of the Communist Party. However, if you helped Karl Rove wantonly ignore most of the Constitution, that makes you a member of a criminal conspiracy and hence provides a good reason to want to avoid telling the truth, on the record and under oath. I’m not surprised she’s decided to leave her office and plead the 5th. I suspect that sometime in the future she’ll be granted impunity and spill her guts. I’m gonna really enjoy seeing Karl Rove in handcuffs.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:01 pmQuote of the year! ohhhh jesus….
March 26th, 2007 at 5:02 pmI presume he answer
That should read ‘her’ answer, sorry Spudge.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:02 pm[...] Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) responds to news that Gonzales aide Monica Goodling will invoke the Fifth Amendment: “It is disappointing that Ms. Goodling has decided to withhold her important testimony from [...]
March 26th, 2007 at 5:03 pmWayne, you crack me up! Verifiable link indeed!
March 26th, 2007 at 5:03 pm“I hold the opinion that God raised Bush for such a time as we found ourselves after 9/11 — For there is no power but from God: the powers that are, are ordained by God — Romans 13:1
Comment by Jake — March 26, 2007 @ 4:59 pm”
You keep that bubble mind closed to the facts and keep on thinking that!!!!
Bush planed to perform ALL of what he is doing long before his presidency, and 9/11 was his way of getting the public to follow.
Bush needs to be impeached and tried for TREASON for allowing 9/11. This was performed by our government and he ALLOWED it to happen. AF1 was threatened using “coded language” (Angel is next)! Only someone high up in the government could have known the codeword for AF1, not some cave dwelling Arab.
Since he was threatened and knew that it was a government plan, he is actually part of the act since he did NOTHING which makes him a TRATOR!
March 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pmDear Jake –
March 26th, 2007 at 5:06 pmPlease publish the Ignore List again – we are all dying to know if we made the cut!
JRoyale:
Unless Rove is NOT a crook, right?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:06 pm#59 …. as I was saying about “PredatorGate” which is still swimming just below the surface of this administration. Surely, the minor boy pedophile scandal within the Page Program is just the tip of the iceberg. Wouldn’t any accusations, information, and allegations regarding something this criminal HAD to have been brought to the attention of the Attorney General?? If so, what the hell did the dip do about it? (answer: absolutely nothing!). If not, then surely obstruction of justice could be called upon Hastert and Boehner in their attempt to “cover it all up”….either way, PredatorGate is definitely NOT over.
In fact, as the continuing investigations and evidence mounts from previous particpants in the Page Program over the years, it promises to get very dicey for the Rethugs who knew about it, sacrificed our children, and then swept the filth under the rug.
These new scandals should handily obscure all GOP candidates well into and beyond the election of 08! THERE IS NOT A CHANCE THAT ANOTHER REPUBLICAN WILL BE ELECTED TO THE WHITE HOUSE FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER DECADE with all of this ongoing corruption.
Who knows, the dirt may be so thick and enveloping that it will end the GOP party even before 08. It’s certainly beginning to take on that appearance these days…..
Tick-tock…..Tick-tock…..The clock is NOT a friend to the GOP, that’s certain.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmI hold the opinion that God raised Bush for such a time as we found ourselves after 9/11 — For there is no power but from God: the powers that are, are ordained by God — Romans 13:1
Comment by Jake — March 26, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Which is why Jake’s kind think it’s okay to tamper with elections. The excuse? God made us do it. It’s HIS will.
Way to go, Jake. You’ve got ALL the answers.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:08 pm#95 If you so believe in “Divine Order” then the 911 link to George Bush becomes even more solid. Thanks for answering the question for everyone! Kudos, bro! George Bush WAS 911. Or was it Dumbya’s infamous “Pet Goat”??
March 26th, 2007 at 5:09 pmFrom “God Said” by Todd Rundgren
-And I won’t give you a prize instead of someone else
Cause I don’t play favorites, so get over yourself
-You are not serving me, you’re serving something else
March 26th, 2007 at 5:09 pmCause I don’t need to be pleased, just get over yourself
You can’t suck up to me, I know you all too well
But I don’t dwell upon you, so get over yourself
Cause you’re not praying to me, you’re praying to yourself
And you’re not worshipping me you’re worshipping yourself
And you will kill in my name and heaven knows what else
When you can’t prove I exist so get over yourself
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Rove NOT a crook? Jake you crack me up. Who’d said rightards don’t have a sense of humor.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:09 pmI think we know have that “smoking gun”….go to http://www.911truth.org and start educating yourself. It’s all there….and yes, it was Divine Order for George Bush to be involved in 911 – not after it, but before it!
March 26th, 2007 at 5:10 pmJake’s IGNORE LIST is eerily similar to the psycho in STRIPES, Frances’, death list.
To Jake, I repeat Sgt. Hulka:
Lighten up, Frances!
March 26th, 2007 at 5:10 pmI hold the opinion that God raised Bush for such a time as we found ourselves after 9/11 — For there is no power but from God: the powers that are, are ordained by God — Romans 13:1
Comment by Jake
This war was not created by God, it was created by man, greed, empire building and lies.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:11 pm“Christ died for Bush’s sins…” Yea riiiiight, and he’s a sandy-blonde-long-haired anglo too.
As Pee Wee Herman once said, “I love that story”.
Tell it to a Buddhist.
You know, the “religion” that began 1500 years before Jesus was put to death by the Jews for heresy.
Sorry, too many religions conflict with one another for ANY of them to be seriously adhered too without dire consequences (like war).
Jesus, the War Savior
March 26th, 2007 at 5:13 pmTick-tock….Tick-tock…..George Bush & 911….Tick-tock….Tick-tock….It’s coming…and sooner than anyone of us wants to connect those horrendous dots.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:14 pmSKdeA
Here’s the form I got from Jake to complete.
Jake’s Get on my Ignore list form:
Name: RUCerious
Reason: Considers Jakers a worthless pile of manure and refuses to answer any question put for by said mound of manure.
Quote of the Day: Some people spread hapiness where ever they go. Jake spreads hapiness when every he goes (away).
OK, I filled out your form. Please add me to your Ignore list.
Comment by RUCerious — March 25, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
March 26th, 2007 at 5:15 pmRegardless of the legal ramifications of pleading the 5th, the Public Relations effect is devastating.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI see they’re all for rights when it’s to their advantage. What a vast and huge surprise.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:17 pmI hold the opinion that God raised Bush
Somebody had to, it’s clear his parents didn’t give a shit.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:17 pmSo if God can make someone like Bush (which is alone enough to question the existence of God) wouldn’t have been much easier for God, um, to you know, um, prevent 9/11 from happening in the first place?
What I don’t get is if God really is micromanaging the child rearing behavior of the Bush Dynasty, how to you explain Jena and Babs?
Wouldn’t it just make a lot more sense for God to make a couple of appearances with Letterman and Leno and just explain what he really wants people to do. Maybe he could even take some questions from the audience.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:18 pmEven under Bush’s Military Commissions Act the accused are allowed to plead the 5th. They won’t be forced to testify against themselves. However, every statement elicited through “coercive interrogations” can be admitted whether made by the accused or by a third person.
What say we apply the same rules to Goodling et al?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:19 pmBNF ~
March 26th, 2007 at 5:20 pmPR? PR? they don’ need no stinkin PR!
They got spin, and nuttin else.
BNF ~ She’s clearly a terrorist…in a government suit.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pmI hold the opinion that God raised Bush
Somebody had to, it’s clear his parents didn’t give a shit.
Comment by RUCerious
I was taking a drink when I read that and almost spit it out all over my monitor laughing, don’t ever do that again! haha
March 26th, 2007 at 5:22 pmNow someone help me out here.
Is it the innocent people, or the guilty ones, who usually take the 5th?
:|
March 26th, 2007 at 5:23 pmEnquiring minds want to know.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:27 pmChrist died for Bush’s sins just as He did for your sins — not one is righteous in the eyes of a Holy God.
Comment by Jake
Bullshit, Jake. Christ died because he crossed the political system of his day. His death has no bearing on my status as a sinner or a saint. Give us a break here and keep that lunacy within the bounds of your own confessional. Displaying such repugnant fetishism in a public forum should be no less a crime than flashing your privates in front of a minor.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:28 pmYep. Anything that isn’t Evangelical Christian isn’t good enough for my mom.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:33 pmany citizen of the US is protected by the constitution, whether they are labeled as a ‘terrorist’ or not.
to suggest otherwise is unAmerican. saying that rights can be stripped when the label ‘terrorist’ is applied to a person is dangerous. ‘terrorist’ is quite a flexible term, and one could easily apply it to someone who commits an assault on someone, or someone who disagrees with the dictating viewpoint.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“any citizen of the US is protected by the constitution, whether they are labeled as a ‘terrorist’ or not.
to suggest otherwise is unAmerican. saying that rights can be stripped when the label ‘terrorist’ is applied to a person is dangerous. ‘terrorist’ is quite a flexible term, and one could easily apply it to someone who commits an assault on someone, or someone who disagrees with the dictating viewpoint.
Comment by AshenShard — March 26, 2007 @ 5:34 pm”
Yeah, that’s the way it is suppose to work…… But welcome to the NEW America!
That no longer exists…. Just ask Jose Padilla!
March 26th, 2007 at 5:37 pmSo Goodling will plead the Fifth… I thought the Constitution was a “Godamn piece of paper”? Or is it that Constitution’s sole function is to protect the crooks and the liars in the Bush’s Organized Crime apparatus?
March 26th, 2007 at 5:41 pmFunny how the Constitution is a god d4mn piece of paper… until you need it. Then it’s all about laws, rules, and the proper procedures.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:45 pm#
Even under Bush’s Military Commissions Act the accused are allowed to plead the 5th. They won’t be forced to testify against themselves. However, every statement elicited through “coercive interrogations†can be admitted whether made by the accused or by a third person.
What say we apply the same rules to Goodling et al?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 26, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
BNF – I almost ALWAYS agree with your comments, but not this one. Though I certainly understand the anger (and therefore, temptation) to have that happen. Remember…what is allowed to happen to ONE can be allowed to happen to ALL. It’s bad enough that this is being applied under the Military Commissions Act. To even imply one’s support for allowing this same kind of reprehensible legal immorality to apply to one’s political opponents is just beyond the pale. Let’s not go there.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:50 pmAnd Jake, the reason the kind of bullshit evangelism you espouse should be criminalized is because it feeds the very root of American Exceptionalism, the doctrine which justifies the American Oligarchy’s demand for unfettered economic opportunity, while denying it to the rest of the world. It is the reason you can’t see the immorality of the American occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. It is the reason that you supported the obscene criminality of Reagan’s Iran-Contra. And, in the final analysis, it is the reason that “you and your ilk” would be the first to find yourself mired in the flames of hell, if there ever was such a place. And, if I could find one justifiable point of contention between God and myself, it would be that she failed to create an eternal lake of fire to house the likes of “you and your ilk.”
March 26th, 2007 at 5:51 pmWhen Republicans talk about taking the fifth, they forget that the booze industry has gone metric – they should take the 750 ml. Look what that his done to Bush’s brain – the one between his ears, not the pervert stroking himself in the bowels of the White House.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:58 pm“Southern Baptist here too — we are going to have to agree to disagree that Bush is anywhere close to a KING though (for instance, we know, worse case scenario, his term ends January 20, 2009 ; )
Comment by Jake”
been southern baptist long?
March 26th, 2007 at 6:36 pmTP is having problems with my original rebuke, and justifiably so. Let’s try it this way:
Jake, the reason that your dominionist nonsense should be criminalized is because it is the pernicious organism that feeds the root of American Exceptionalism, the doctrine which justifies the American Oligarchy’s demand for unfettered economic opportunity, while denying it to the rest of the world. It is the reason you can’t see the immorality of the American occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. It is the reason you supported the obscene criminality of Reagan’s Iran-Contra. It is the reason why you prefer partisan politics of corruption and theft instead of a joint effort to share the commonwealth of this great land. In the final analysis, if I could find one justifiable point of contention between God and myself, it would be that she failed to create an eternal lake of fire for those who propagate the dominionist fraud.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:48 pmIf Goodling has nothing to hide, she has nothing to fear. Looks like she’s choosing to “cut and run”.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:05 pmActually I think the White House should be more concerned with Goodling’s lawyer saying she would plead the 5th Amendment on her testimony to Congress (the Senate) than Congress. She is posturing for immunity. If you don’t remember, it was John Dean getting limited immunity that really got the ball rolling with the resignation of Richard (I am not a crook) Nixon. I would think that some sort of deal is in the works. The one caveat in all of this is that if there are federal laws that have been broken (or suspected of being broken) the deal has to be run by a USA. Good luck.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:23 pmPLEAD THE FIFTH—-ISN’T THAT WHAT Joe Valachi AND MEMBERS OF Cosa Nostra aka MAFIA DID? NO, THEY SANG LIKE BOIDS! THEY CHOIPED LIKE BOIDS, MORE LIKE STOOL PIGEONS, WHEREAS THE CLOSE KNIT BOND OF Bushland Uber Allies IS MUCH MORE LOYAL THAN ANY MAFIA HOOD, EVEN UNDER THREAT OF DEATH—-OR BETRAYING ONE’S COUNTRY AND THE RULE OF LAW OF THE LAND, WHICH IS TO CHIMPya AND HIS EXCREABLE FOLLOWERS, “just a goddamn piece of paper!” WELL, I TELL YOU, CHIMPya AND Bushland Uber Allies, YOUR SO-CALLED “executive privilege” and “unitary executive” IS JUST A GODDAMN PIECE OF PAPER, AND ALL IN YA DISEASED, CRAZED MINDS AND IMAGINATION—-WHICH YA WILL SEE SOON ENOUGH AS THE NOOSE OF RETRIBUTION IS PUT AROUND YA NECKS AND THE TRAPDOOR OPENS LIKE IN Saddam’s SITUATION, AND YA, CHIMPya, and Bushland Uber Allies TAKE THE FINAL DROP TO YA WELL-DESERVED EXECUTIONS!!!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 8:31 pmWell, that’s one kind of “executive privilege” that will be very difficult to overcome. Why don’t they all do that: Just ‘plead the Fifth’?
Cheers,
March 26th, 2007 at 8:41 pmWhy do you people even address “jake”?
There comes a point which if someone doesn’t ‘get’ something, they never will.
Let it go.
Also, certain people disgust me for tainting what Jesus stood for.
I view Jesus as I view Buddha…messengers of love and hope; whether you ‘believe’ in Jesus or not, don’t let these whackjobs close your mind to the message.
Jus sayin.
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