Comments on: Flashback: Lott Said Claiming Executive Privilege Makes WH ‘Look Like They Are Hiding Something’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:25:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-3/#comment-2717790 tom baker Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:43:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2717790 happy - you sound like you're not very happy at all- what i hear is the laughter of a clown who's "crying on the inside" - <em>you lost</em> , last November, and you're going to again (even bigger) in '08, because you and your ilk are paranoid, reactionary radicals, incompetent to govern. In another couple years, it will be just you and your am radio, ranting to yourselves, trying hard to laugh at the people who are laughing at you - like we here at TP do, every single time you bother to post something. hey, i've got an idea that'll make you feel better. call the 800# for the radio show of that drug addict cult leader of yours, and spend a couple hours on hold, thinking about what you're going to say, and how impressed he'll be, then get on the air, trip over your own tongue for a couple minutes - then kick back and pretend that he cared what you had to say, or that anyone was really listening to you at all. have a super-happy, Democratic Day!!!!! happy – you sound like you’re not very happy at all- what i hear is the laughter of a clown who’s “crying on the inside” – you lost , last November, and you’re going to again (even bigger) in ‘08, because you and your ilk are paranoid, reactionary radicals, incompetent to govern. In another couple years, it will be just you and your am radio, ranting to yourselves, trying hard to laugh at the people who are laughing at you – like we here at TP do, every single time you bother to post something.

hey, i’ve got an idea that’ll make you feel better. call the 800# for the radio show of that drug addict cult leader of yours, and spend a couple hours on hold, thinking about what you’re going to say, and how impressed he’ll be, then get on the air, trip over your own tongue for a couple minutes – then kick back and pretend that he cared what you had to say, or that anyone was really listening to you at all.

have a super-happy, Democratic Day!!!!!

]]> By: Happy Guy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2714960 Happy Guy Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:36:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2714960 Hey, tom baker (aka Dr Who). The Clintons do matter since another of the corrupt America hating family is attempting to take over the country and run it into the ground. What also matters is the hypocrisy of this site and the ignorance of the people who run it. They ignore when DemocRATS do anything and nit pick the Republicans. They ignore the fact that Clinton claimed executive privilege to cover his crimes more times than any other presidency. If you allowed him to do it then you have now set a precedent. Now Bush can do it whenever he wants and if you open your ignorance biased mouths your hypocrites. So, you spoke up, you lose – ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL You can’t win even on your own playground. ROTFL Hey, tom baker (aka Dr Who). The Clintons do matter since another of the corrupt America hating family is attempting to take over the country and run it into the ground.

What also matters is the hypocrisy of this site and the ignorance of the people who run it. They ignore when DemocRATS do anything and nit pick the Republicans. They ignore the fact that Clinton claimed executive privilege to cover his crimes more times than any other presidency. If you allowed him to do it then you have now set a precedent. Now Bush can do it whenever he wants and if you open your ignorance biased mouths your hypocrites.

So, you spoke up, you lose – ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

You can’t win even on your own playground.

ROTFL

]]> By: hotnoodletuna http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2711924 hotnoodletuna Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:45:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2711924 All I wanna know is whether Trent Lott's porch was effectively reattached to his vacation home post-Katrina. Having just gotten back form the gulf-coast I have to say that this dude is more than a little out of touch with his own Mississippi constituents. That said, I can't imagine why he would care about them. They are poor and black and he's a Republican after all. As for this particular quote, it really is an absurd flip-flop and would've made me think less of him, provided he hadn't already sunk to the lowest possible depths by being a virulently racist bastard from day one. All I wanna know is whether Trent Lott’s porch was effectively reattached to his vacation home post-Katrina. Having just gotten back form the gulf-coast I have to say that this dude is more than a little out of touch with his own Mississippi constituents. That said, I can’t imagine why he would care about them. They are poor and black and he’s a Republican after all.

As for this particular quote, it really is an absurd flip-flop and would’ve made me think less of him, provided he hadn’t already sunk to the lowest possible depths by being a virulently racist bastard from day one.

]]> By: caged http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2703662 caged Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:02:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2703662 Lott's makeup looks like it comes from a funeral home. <em>(I know it's a stupid comment, but I think it everytime I see him.)</em> Lott’s makeup looks like it comes from a funeral home.
(I know it’s a stupid comment, but I think it everytime
I see him.)

]]> By: PoliticalCritic http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2691408 PoliticalCritic Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:01:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2691408 It makes it look like they're hiding something because....ummmm, well of course they're hiding something! It makes it look like they’re hiding something because….ummmm, well of course they’re hiding something!

]]> By: Flaco http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2689670 Flaco Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:08:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2689670 Anyone here know how many troops died during his “peace time preziduncy”. Take a guess… Comment by Flaco — March 26, 2007 @ 8:27 pm Why would a crazy fu*k like Clinton have a “peace time” prezidency? Comment by Spudge_Boy <strong>Spudgie avoided the question. Typical Army brat</strong> Anyone here know how many troops died during his “peace time preziduncy”.
Take a guess…

Comment by Flaco — March 26, 2007 @ 8:27 pm

Why would a crazy fu*k like Clinton have a “peace time” prezidency?

Comment by Spudge_Boy

Spudgie avoided the question. Typical Army brat

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2679924 tom baker Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:52:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2679924 happy guy - where did you find the infusion of balls necessary to show your ignorant face around here again??? time for you to realize, like the rest of us did long ago - Clinton doesn't matter any more, and never did very much in the first place. You can't excuse the manson family based on what some other hippies did or didn't do, and you can't defend bush with clinton, either. Righties used to call it "personal responsibility" before they decided that was sometimes inconvenient. back under your rock, loser. happy guy – where did you find the infusion of balls necessary to show your ignorant face around here again???

time for you to realize, like the rest of us did long ago – Clinton doesn’t matter any more, and never did very much in the first place. You can’t excuse the manson family based on what some other hippies did or didn’t do, and you can’t defend bush with clinton, either. Righties used to call it “personal responsibility” before they decided that was sometimes inconvenient. back under your rock, loser.

]]> By: Happy Guy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2677165 Happy Guy Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:47:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2677165 So who has flip-flopped? What your trying to say is it was good for Clinton but not for Bush? You had it then, they get it now. ROTFL So who has flip-flopped? What your trying to say is it was good for Clinton but not for Bush? You had it then, they get it now.

ROTFL

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2673217 tom baker Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:21:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2673217 guess what, senator haircut? - it looks like they're hiding something BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING. guess what, senator haircut? – it looks like they’re hiding something BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING.

]]> By: Johnny http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2669548 Johnny Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:12:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2669548 Good work but a Hat Tip to Media Matters might have been in order on this one... http://mediamatters.org/items/200703260008 Good work but a Hat Tip to Media Matters might have been in order on this one…

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703260008

]]> By: Wretched REfuse http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2662955 Wretched REfuse Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:19:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2662955 The problem with wingnuttery (now with more nuts) is that they look for every ding dang crack, crevice and chiasm in the Constitution and pound away at these fissures, like water through a gorge, until the surrounding walls weaken and crumble, making larger openings from which more unadulterated power flows. It truly is subversive, treasonous and destructive of the actual embodiment of the construct of our system of governance. The whole notion of an insulation of the Courts have recognized a “presumptive privilege” for presidential communications that is grounded in “a President’s generalized interest in confidentiality” and is viewed as important to preserving the candor of presidential advisors and protecting the freedom of the president and his advisors to “explore alternatives in the process of shaping policies and making decisions and to do so in a way many would be unwilling to express except privately.” U. S. v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683, 708, 711 (1974); In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d 729, 743 (D.C. Cir. 1997). This privilege is “inextricably rooted in the separation of powers under the Constitution” and “flow[s] from the nature of enumerated powers” of the President. Id., 418 U.S. at 705; 121 F.3d at 743. According to a recent D.C. Circuit case, “[t]he President can invoke the privilege when asked to produce documents or other materials that reflect Presidential decision making and deliberations and that the President believes should remain confidential.” Id., 121 F.3d at 744. As to the scope of this privilege, the court found, in the context of the criminal proceeding, it to cover “communications made by presidential advisers in the course of preparing advice for the President, . . . even when these communications are not made directly to the President.” Id. at 751-52. Comment by memphis minnie — March 26, 2007 @ 8:27 pm Actually minnie, Look at the intent inherent in that phraseology. What "alternatives" can the Preznit possibly look at that would possibly be a problem for anyone giving that advice....(Jeopardy theme playing) I'll wait.... It is called UNLAWFUL alternatives. Therefore, this BS of this privledge is actually counter to the very notion of a lawful government. Similar to signing statements. Once only considered as a way for the prez to instruct the office under his branch how to understnad the law that is being enacted, now used as contrivances to say whether he will obey the friggin law at all. How ridiculous a notion at all. Again UNLAWFUL. Try reading the other passges in the books you are reading, they are all supposed to go together, and flow from one another, not have sections or passages pulled out for convenience's sake. ANd definately NOT becasue it happens to fit Karl Rove's Leo Straussian world view. How digusting these America haters. The problem with wingnuttery (now with more nuts) is that they look for every ding dang crack, crevice and chiasm in the Constitution and pound away at these fissures, like water through a gorge, until the surrounding walls weaken and crumble, making larger openings from which more unadulterated power flows.
It truly is subversive, treasonous and destructive of the actual embodiment of the construct of our system of governance. The whole notion of an insulation of the

Courts have recognized a “presumptive privilege” for presidential communications that is grounded in “a President’s generalized interest in confidentiality” and is viewed as important to preserving the candor of presidential advisors and protecting the freedom of the president and his advisors to “explore alternatives in the process of shaping policies and making decisions and to do so in a way many would be unwilling to express except privately.” U. S. v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683, 708, 711 (1974); In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d 729, 743 (D.C. Cir. 1997). This privilege is “inextricably rooted in the separation of powers under the Constitution” and “flow[s] from the nature of enumerated powers” of the President. Id., 418 U.S. at 705; 121 F.3d at 743.

According to a recent D.C. Circuit case, “[t]he President can invoke the privilege when asked to produce documents or other materials that reflect Presidential decision making and deliberations and that the President believes should remain confidential.” Id., 121 F.3d at 744. As to the scope of this privilege, the court found, in the context of the criminal proceeding, it to cover “communications made by presidential advisers in the course of preparing advice for the President, . . . even when these communications are not made directly to the President.” Id. at 751-52.

Comment by memphis minnie — March 26, 2007 @ 8:27 pm

Actually minnie,
Look at the intent inherent in that phraseology. What “alternatives” can the Preznit possibly look at that would possibly be a problem for anyone giving that advice….(Jeopardy theme playing) I’ll wait….

It is called UNLAWFUL alternatives. Therefore, this BS of this privledge is actually counter to the very notion of a lawful government. Similar to signing statements. Once only considered as a way for the prez to instruct the office under his branch how to understnad the law that is being enacted, now used as contrivances to say whether he will obey the friggin law at all.

How ridiculous a notion at all. Again UNLAWFUL. Try reading the other passges in the books you are reading, they are all supposed to go together, and flow from one another, not have sections or passages pulled out for convenience’s sake. ANd definately NOT becasue it happens to fit Karl Rove’s Leo Straussian world view.

How digusting these America haters.

]]> By: Pete Bogs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2660913 Pete Bogs Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:30:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2660913 Snow and now Lott... we really need to throw these old comments in their faces... Snow and now Lott… we really need to throw these old comments in their faces…

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2648394 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:03:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2648394 <em>This Zooey character needs to get out of that double wide and get some fresh air. Zooey is way out of her league as always, trailer trash. Comment by Flaco — March 27, 2007 @ 1:19 am</em> Why, does she remind you of your mother, or your sister, or is that the same person? BAHAHAHA!! Dum bass! This Zooey character needs to get out of that double wide and get some fresh air.
Zooey is way out of her league as always, trailer trash.
Comment by Flaco — March 27, 2007 @ 1:19 am

Why, does she remind you of your mother, or your sister, or is that the same person? BAHAHAHA!! Dum bass!

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2648378 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:02:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2648378 <em>Ex dude this is their M.O. daily. Partisan hacks thru and thru. Comment by Flaco — March 27, 2007 @ 1:23 am</em> BAHAHA, what a funny projection!!! You're one st*pid little piece of sh*t aren't you? And *funny* how you only see your own st*pid shit projected in others! Funy, Funny, Funny!! Ex dude this is their M.O. daily.
Partisan hacks thru and thru.
Comment by Flaco — March 27, 2007 @ 1:23 am

BAHAHA, what a funny projection!!! You’re one st*pid little piece of sh*t aren’t you? And *funny* how you only see your own st*pid shit projected in others! Funy, Funny, Funny!!

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2648338 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:01:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2648338 <em>There seems to be only one lonely moonbat posting here? Comment by Flaco — March 27, 2007 @ 1:30 am</em> Project much? What exactly does that make you - dum bass? There seems to be only one lonely moonbat posting here?
Comment by Flaco — March 27, 2007 @ 1:30 am

Project much? What exactly does that make you – dum bass?

]]> By: Flaco http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2646764 Flaco Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:30:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2646764 There seems to be only one lonely moonbat posting here? There seems to be only one lonely moonbat posting here?

]]> By: Flaco http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2646706 Flaco Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:29:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2646706 <strong>Anyone here know how many troops died during Clinton's “peace time preziduncy”?</strong> Take a guess..... No one ??? Oh well <strong>How many troops died in Iraq so far anyone?</strong> Anyone here know how many troops died during Clinton’s “peace time preziduncy”?
Take a guess…..

No one ???
Oh well
How many troops died in Iraq so far anyone?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2646655 JPark Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:27:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2646655 #83 Flaco, you are a right wing whore. How can you possibly attack others as partisan hacks? #83 Flaco, you are a right wing whore. How can you possibly attack others as partisan hacks?

]]> By: Flaco http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2646560 Flaco Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:23:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2646560 <em>When TP attempts to blur the line between two separate types of investigations, it acts either <strong>dishonestly or ignorantly</strong>.</em> Ex dude this is their M.O. daily. Partisan hacks thru and thru. When TP attempts to blur the line between two separate types of investigations, it acts either dishonestly or ignorantly.

Ex dude this is their M.O. daily.
Partisan hacks thru and thru.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/comment-page-2/#comment-2646526 JPark Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:21:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/lott-hypocrisy-exec-priv/#comment-2646526 Flaco, Exley wouldn't back your ass up. He thinks. You...well...are an idiot. Flaco, Exley wouldn’t back your ass up. He thinks. You…well…are an idiot.

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