Waxman Warns RNC, Bush-Cheney ‘04 Campaign: Don’t Delete Your Emails
Waxman Warns RNC, Bush-Cheney ‘04 Campaign: Don’t Delete Your Emails
Multiple congressional investigations have uncovered evidence that White House appointees regularly communicate using email accounts provided by the Republican Party. As CREW has argued, such activity violates the Presidential Records Act, which requires that the White House preserve such records.
Today, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) issued letters to the Republican National Committee and the Bush-Cheney ‘04 Campaign directing them to preserve all emails by and for White House officials, and to meet with the committee about the legal issues involved in conducting official government business using partisan email accounts. From Waxman’s letter:
The e-mails of White House officials maintained on RNC e-mail accounts may be relevant to multiple congressional investigations. For this reason, the Committee directs you to preserve all e-mails sent or received by White House officials using e-mail accounts under your control.
In addition, the Committee requests that you or your designee meet with Committee staff during the week of April 2,2007, to discuss the following five matters:
– Who has access to the e-mail accounts maintained by the RNC; […]
– What steps have been taken to preserve the e-mail accounts maintained by the RNC that have been used by White House officials;
– What assurance can the RNC provide the Committee that no e-mails involving official White House business have been destroyed or altered.
As Waxman points out in his letter, communications between criminal lobbyist Jack Abramoff and White House officials were conducted via nongovernmental e-mail accounts. “In at least one case, the e-mails indicate that these nonofficial accounts were being used because ‘to put this stuff in writing in their e-mail system…might actually limit what they can do to help us.’”
On Friday, National Journal reported that Karl Rove does almost all of his work with an RNC-based email account:
According to one former White House official familiar with Rove’s work habits, the president’s top political adviser does ‘about 95 percent’ of his e-mailing using his RNC-based account. … The former White House official, speaking on background, said that although the RNC had a policy to purge e-mails after a short period of time, Rove’s e-mails on its system and those of a few other White House aides in sensitive positions were preserved by the RNC “to protect Karl.” Even with a policy of deleting e-mails from servers, information-technology experts say, organizations rarely erase data entirely.
UPDATE: The Carpetbagger Report has more, and reminds readers of similar questions posed to the president’s communications office by Dan Froomkin.
UPDATE II: TPMMuckraker has more, and Laura Rozen notes some potential security implications of Rove’s reliance on RNC email accounts.
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March 26th, 2007 at 12:38 pmI seem to recall the GOP making a big stink about Al Gore making partisan phone calls from his official office phone.
How is that any different than the official office computer? And during working hours?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:40 pmhoo boy! … go henry!
hope he’s not too late…
out to the garden for me… later…
March 26th, 2007 at 12:41 pmWhat right does Congress have against PRIVATE campaign e-mail?! Even McCain-Feingold doesn’t go this far in violating the First Amendment.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pmInteresting - I don’t remember liberals crying foul when Clinton was allowing foreign (Chinese $$) get funneled into his re-election campaign.
This will be seen as sour grapes by the radical left and their anti-democracy allies. Bush won by 3 million votes and you still haven’t gotten over it yet. Please Waxman - investigate. The piling on effect will take root by this time next year, I am sure.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pmWhy are all of those computers being taken out of the White House?
…in 5,4,3,2….
March 26th, 2007 at 12:42 pmSweet!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:43 pmDon:
Using government equipment for political campaigning (without the appropriate disclosure / reimbursement) is clearly against the law. You can’t outlaw PRIVATE political communication under the FIRST AMENDMENT!!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:45 pmThat’s great - warn them… You know they’ll be deleting their emails immediately…
What right does Congress have against PRIVATE campaign e-mail?!
Comment by Jake — March 26, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
As a government employee, I’ll be happy to explain.
First of all, as a government employee, your computer and email account are not private. The government owns them, and at the beginning of your employment, tells you so. They tell you that they can and will fire you for using it for private purposes.
Secondly - oversight. It’s a requirement of the Constitution. And therefore, Congress does have the right.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:46 pmComment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — March 26, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
Nothing to see here, folks. Just the tears of a clown.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:47 pmJake,
Jefferson also said that when a man assumes a public trust he shoudl consider himself public property.
If they don’t like the consequences of ther actions? Then maybe politics is the wrong career for them.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:48 pmUsing government equipment for political campaigning (without the appropriate disclosure / reimbursement) is clearly against the law.
So you agree Jake that a crimes may have been committed by WH personnel?
March 26th, 2007 at 12:49 pmWhat right does Congress have against PRIVATE campaign e-mail?! Comment by Jake
Read the article and links moron.
One of the links is at the section regarding “such activity violates the Presidential Records Act”.
Not that you neocons are at all worried that Laws may have been Broken.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:49 pmOR better yet, why has TP never asked question of Hillary Clinton’s unethical fundraising practices while First Lady? Answer: Waxman’s concerns are partisan and will be treated as such by the public.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:50 pmHey, coincidentally, in his never-ending search for evil kiddie porn, Gonzolez has been demanding ISPs retain all email sent through their servers, so this shouldn’t bug the Repubs at all!
March 26th, 2007 at 12:51 pmJake sez:
Posts like these are why we question your reading comprehension, Jakers.
The use of private email accounts in this case is a blatant attempt to circumvent the requirements of the Presidential Records Act…as you would have readily seen if you had read the summary above.
Educate yourself.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:52 pmBush Administration Violating Presidential Records Act?…
“Multiple congressional investigations have uncovered evidence that White House appointees regularly communicate using email accounts provided by the Republican Party… such activity violates the Presidential Records Act, which requires the White Hou…
March 26th, 2007 at 12:53 pm(And it’s gonna be fun to match up RNC email server addresses with the IP addies of blog trolls everywhere.)
March 26th, 2007 at 12:54 pmCan these emails be protected in the same manner that official WH emails are? This pressure cooker is getting more and more interesting.
LHT, after the exploits of this current administration has been fully exposed missdeads of all past presidents will fall far short of the scrutiny you want.
Nobody will be able to turn away in denial from the disgrace that is Bush.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:54 pmLHT,
Specific’s please. If you have any I’d like to hear them otherwise we’re sick of “Clinton did it”. And don’t forget the big stink that was raised when Al Gore was accused of making campaign calls on the government’s dime.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:56 pmi heart apologist trolls.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:56 pmHow many times can reich-wing trolls evoke the name of Clinton in one thread? Apparently desperation of the reich-wing has no bounds.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:58 pmDon and unbelievable:
I have already stated that using government equipment for political campaigning (without the appropriate disclosure / reimbursement) is clearly against the law. I don’t know if anyone has done that yet, but if they did, they should be prosecuting without prejudice or partisanship (of course, now you guys are going to say the remaining U.S. Attorneys can’t be trusted to do so ; )
March 26th, 2007 at 12:59 pmKindly explain how Waxman’s request violates the First Amendment.
March 26th, 2007 at 12:59 pmJake and the scatman jibber jabbering away.
but but but but but
March 26th, 2007 at 1:00 pmJake=Hannity’s ButtBoy
March 26th, 2007 at 1:02 pmQuestion: Does Rove’s use of non-White House email system have any affect on an Executive Privilege claim to those emails? Doesn’t the use of the RNC’s email servers imply that they are political in nature and not subject to national security and other privileged discussion?
From an IT perspective, I’d also be interested to know if the RNC IT security meets the security standards for classified communications.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:11 pm[…] Read more Warnings […]
March 26th, 2007 at 1:15 pmHang carl by his thumbs in town square after he’s fired and
March 26th, 2007 at 1:17 pmgive the community a seemingly endless supply of rotten fruit.
Hallelujah! “Pigpen” Rove is going down!
March 26th, 2007 at 1:22 pmand no stuffing documents in your bra and sneaking them out, Karl Rove!
March 26th, 2007 at 1:23 pmIt is so refreshing having adults in charge again.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:25 pmDoing official business on unsecured private networks is a national security issue. We’ve seen evidence that private networks were accepted into the .gov system. Time to see how much of this “shadow government” was operating outside the purview of the American people. Maybe LHT and Jake thinks it’s A-OK for their Party to plot against our democracy, but I suspect that they’d scream bloody murder if the Democrats were running a similar network.
Why would they do it? Unless, of course, they knew what they were doing was very illegal. Bunch of criminal traitors, the whole Republic National Party. Time to prosecute them under RICO statutes (they are an organized crime syndicate doing their business across state lines))…if we can locate any honest US A’s.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:27 pm#27 - If only you felt that way about America’s enemies and not your political enemies, maybe we could win the war on terror. Can I waterboard some sense into you?
This is a partisan witch hunt. Plain and simple.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:31 pmI like that waxman ordered the emails not be destroyed. This was not a request.
“…For this reason, the Committee directs you to preserve all e-mails sent or received by White House officials using e-mail accounts under your control…”
This is the kind of serious business the dems need to be working on. This is about the preservation of evidence. In light of the clear intention of Waxman’s demand, it’ll be very difficult for the criminals to feign ignorance or technological glitches.
Having these folks out of political power is simply not enough. Congress and the Justice Department (Oy!) are duty-bound to persue the fairly obvious, widespread criminality underlying the Bush Administration to its ugly conclusion. The Administration’s attempts to quash the production of documents (via redaction or gaps) and sworn testimony of insiders is laughable on it’s face. Did you ever hear of a criminal who wanted to turn over all of the evidence against them?
If Obama and Clinton don’t get on the attack, I’ll give my vote to Edwards - as he is currently not in office, he isn’t in the position to do much about rampant Rethuggery.
Turn up the heat.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:31 pmThe same RNC which sent out postcards of men kissing in Oct 2004 to ensure the fundies didn’t vote for Kerry.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:31 pmHow can any of these communications be considered “EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE” if they are not being done of official White House emails?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:32 pmJake, you just don’t get it. The Presidential Records Act of 1978 gives the public ownership of all Presidential records defined as:
Documentary materials, or an reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his immediate staff, or a unit or individual or the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have and effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President [44 U.S.C. ß 2201(2)].
The point is that it’s illegal to send emails that deal with government business from a private email address because private emails are not properly archived for the public record.
Of course if you’re discussing something you might not want to be publicly disclosed at a later date, it would be smart to use a private email. Unfortunately, that is illegal.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:32 pmDon and unbelievable:— Jake
Watch out asking Jake tough questions he can’t answer you two. You will end up on Jake’s The List â„¢
LOL
March 26th, 2007 at 1:33 pmThose RNC e-mail accounts weren’t covert operatives…Waitasec…I’m getting my O’Really talking points messed up…
March 26th, 2007 at 1:33 pmI’m warning you liberal terrist lovers. You will be ripped apart. Don’t believe me? Just watch! That is what we will do to you liberal surrender monkeys! Growl!
March 26th, 2007 at 1:33 pmWhat is truly stunning about this revelation is the apparent violation of the Hatch Act (not that any Bush Boy ever worried about violating a law).
Every morning when I log onto my government computer (I am home on sick leave today) a message pops up reminding me that I am not entitled to “any sense of privacy by using the Government computer” for anything I write on there. In fact, my agency records every keystroke made on every agency computer and they keep that information on a huge database in Denver.
At the start of every election year my Federal agency sends out a reminder stating that we are not to use government equipment for any political purpose. Doing so is a violation of the Hatch Act and if caught we would be subject to disciplinary action up to and including separation, plus a fine.
If KKKarl is sitting in his government office in the White House, using a government computer to send out political stuff even if its using a non-government email address, he is likely violating the law. Again, no Bush Boy worries about a triviality like violating Federal law, but the educated among us do.
I wonder if the White House keeps a database of every key stroke made by every White House employee while on government equipment? If so it would be very easy to have corroboration of any email that can be found from KKKarl or any other White House flunkie using government equipment for political purposes.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:34 pmWait now that I think of it
March 26th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWhat right does Congress have against PRIVATE campaign e-mai doesn’t even make sense, nevermind.
#39. Misha. Did you just make a terroristic threat under the Patriot Act?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:38 pmAs right wing ziperheads would croon: if they haven’t done anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about. How does it feel, zipperheads, how does it feel?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:44 pmI thought the bushies would have a massive shredding party towards the end, I guess I left out massive deletion of e mails. Oh, and Jake STFU LOSER!!!!!! Get a life instead of posting into empty air ALL DAY and NIGHT. Your opinion here is worth about as much as a squirt of piss.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI see the fake Jake is back. If anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) has any questions about him / her too, let me know.
P.S. Innocent Bystander and Rob: what part of “if someone broke the law, they should be prosecuted” are you not understanding?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:45 pmWhat I want to know is- as I asked yesterday-
What explains the failure of the mainstream media to cover the purge scandal for so long, and so many other scandals? Do you think somebody just set up newspaper editors to cheat on their wives, and threatened to tell if the editors wouldn’t play ball when they come back some day and ask for something?
It wouldn’t be that hard to do, when you think about it. People wouldn’t talk about it.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:53 pmJake,
Congress doesn’t have a right to look at private CAMPAIGN related email. They do, however, have a right to look at, with a subpoena or if it is released willingly, the government related emails. This includes anything having to do with political appointees including the USAs.
The whole point of the Hatch Act was to stress the boundary between government business and partisan activities. If Karl Rove is sending an email out regarding funding or a speech he is going to make, he has to do it on his private computer while he is not on the clock. If he’s sending an email regarding the dismissal of USAs, he has to do it from a properly archived government email address.
This may be inconvenient but it is the law.
March 26th, 2007 at 1:55 pmJake,
Oooooh is the Nazi party funneling information to you about me?
March 26th, 2007 at 1:55 pmSo….
Waxman suddenly WANTS emails??
Did this get dropped into the Orwellian Memory Hole?
In 1998, Northrop Grumman contractors, including a few who had previously worked for PRC, found what amounted to a 28-month gap in archives of e-mail and attached documents coming mainly into the West Wing (outgoing messages and internal White House messages apparently were archived). The gap stretches from 1996 to 1998.
The e-mails — which number close to 1 million - have been under subpoena in several investigations of White House scandals.
As a standard operating procedure, however, White House computer specialists each night made emergency back-up tapes of the files, which reside on an e-mail server used by President Clinton and his top aides, including his chief of staff.
An automated White House archiving system failed to record the key server during the two-year period. The White House blames a “programming error” for the omitted e-mail.
There are at least 3,400 back-up tapes of that White House server (labeled “Mail2″), according to White House Counsel Beth Nolan.
In addition, Nolan says there are “approximately” 625 back-up tapes of a separate server used by Vice President Al Gore and more than 20 of his staffers.
Because of another “glitch,” to this day none of Gore’s office’s in-coming e-mail have been archived by the Automated Records Management System, or ARMS, which was set up in 1994 by court mandate. Messages written by Gore and his staff also may not have been recorded in a searchable format.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:00 pm#46 - …What explains the failure of the mainstream media to cover the purge scandal for so long, and so many other scandals? Do you think somebody just set up newspaper editors to cheat on their wives, and threatened to tell if the editors wouldn’t play ball when they come back some day and ask for something?…
It’s very simple: The MSM has billions of $$$’s worth of business it wants out of the government. Emperor Bush is in the position to approve or deny bills that work to the MSM’s favour.
Can you say “Suck Up?” I thought you could.
If you read even the most mainstream European, Asian, or South American coverage of US politics, you get a very different and in many cases clearer picture of what’s going on here in the US.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:02 pmAs I said, Rob, if someone broke the law, they should be prosecuted.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:03 pmLooks like someone has forgotten the term:
“NO CONTROLLING LEGAL AUTHORITY”
in regard to PRIVATE campaign emails…
Remind me who said that??
March 26th, 2007 at 2:08 pmComment by Rob — March 26, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Rob… Since the President is the President 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and Karl Rove is his advisor. Isn’t it safe to assume that he also works the same hours? I’d have to imagine that working in the white house with the President gives you little “time-off”.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:13 pmWould this “Hatch Act” be named after one Orrin Hatch who was carrying water for Bushco on CNN yesterday? I thought so.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:20 pmIndianafred… I know I know I know… is it Mr. I invented the internet? Is it Mr. Global warming is gonna kill us all? Could it be one of the Democratic Party’s “ALSO-RANS”? You know… the fat guy with the beard… or is it the skinny guy with the well groomed face? I’ll give you a hint… his last name rhymes with “whore”!
March 26th, 2007 at 2:23 pmJake,
Glad you agree that lawbreakers should be prosecuted. If emails that are supposed to be in the public record are instead hidden in a RNC archive the RNC has an obligation to make those emails available.
There is direct evidence that emails like this exist. Sampson sent one to Jennings at his gwb43.com address. This email only exists because Sampson sent it from his government address. Any emails strictly between gwb43.com addresses would not have fallen into the government archive.
Determining how many other emails like this might exist opens a huge can of worms because Congress has no business viewing private emails dealing with campaigning but has every right to the ones that deal with the Executive Branch’s activities.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:32 pmCynicalgirl,
Actually the Hatch Act is named for Carl Atwood Hatch, a Senetor from New Mexico. It was passed in 1939 when Orrin was 5 years old. As far as I know, they are not related.
March 26th, 2007 at 2:37 pmIndiana Fred #51 doesn’t want to provide a link to this because we will all point and laugh…
Bwahahahaha! WingNutDaily!
March 26th, 2007 at 2:55 pmI’m wearing lacy undies.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:23 pmFor anyone who’s tech savvy:strong>
Can information STILL be retreived from scrubbed or otherwise damaged hard-drives?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:37 pm#59. The Hatch Act was enacted in 1939, long before Orrin Hatch was even a glimmer in the eye of his Mormon father
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939
March 26th, 2007 at 3:39 pm#57. Please provide documentable proof that Al Gore ever ONCE said he invented the internet. Please?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:40 pm#4 Jake..If Karl Rove is using RNC email system to conduct the countries business, the email site belongs to “We the people” now. Rove and company didn’t want to use the white email system because they’d have to archive it and congress can get thier mitts on it.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:41 pmI’m wearing lacy undies.
Comment by Jake
Okay, will this fake ‘Jake’ respectfully please stop? Or do I take to calling whoever you are Joke instead, cause really you’re no better than Patty1, who oddly enough I haven’t seen here in awhile. Jake has just as much right to post here as we do even if we don’t agree at all with him.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:44 pmTwo words.
Forsensic reconstruction
March 26th, 2007 at 3:54 pm“For anyone who’s tech savvy:strong>
Can information STILL be retreived from scrubbed or otherwise damaged hard-drives?
Comment by big papa — March 26, 2007 @ 3:37 pm”
Yes! Remember 9/11??? They recovered much of the data from hard drives. That is how they determined a large rush of trades before the attacks.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:54 pmOK, one time and one time only trolls…
But, But, Clinton and Monica and emails…
Now,
STFU.
March 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pmhttp://www.dtidata.com/ resourcecenter/ 2007/ 02/ 26/ restore-deleted-outlook-express-emails/
Get your deleted emails, right here, deleted emails, EEEEEMMAAAIIILS…
March 26th, 2007 at 3:59 pmOf course they can choose not to comply with the investigation… but claiming the right to refuse as a private entity may disqualify the organization from sponsoring candidates on federal election ballots.
Your choice GOP.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:11 pmYes, RUCerious,
Microsoft has made nigh impossible to truly delete emails. Unless you really know what you are doing, they will stay there somewhere in your hard drive (network drive, whatever) until someone goes in and manually deletes them from deep inside.
Just because you say you want it deleted, doesn’t mean it REALLY gets deleted.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmI love how the trolls in this thread are engaging the issue. “Look over there! Look over there! ClintonClintonClinton! GoreGoreGore! 911911911!
It’s. Over.
March 26th, 2007 at 4:18 pmProud Dem ~
March 26th, 2007 at 4:27 pmAnd they’re really not deleted even after you delete them.
A forensic specialist can go into a hard drive and recover almost any file that’s ever been written to that drive…
Chimp in Chief - “Whut’s that y’say? Duh-lete mah RNC e-mails? Okey dokey, I duz whatever’n ol’ Dick ‘n Karl tell me to anywayz, huyh huyh huyh!! Ohhh, you said DON’T duh-lete mah e-mailz. Dang it, now I gone an done it. Guess’n y’all be havin’ a hard time pinnin’ this’n on me, huyh huyh huyh!! Ol’ dubya’s a gonna git it!! Right in tha patootie, huyh huyh huyh!!”
March 26th, 2007 at 4:54 pmAs a former US gov employee–attorney and manager for 30 years–I find it difficult to read about the alleged email setup with Rove and his boys/girls without repeating what I was occasionally called to advise others. That is, as #42 so nicely puts it, remember the Hatch Act. And, even tho it has been amended from time to time, the Hatch Act has reach and consequences (e.g., reprimand to suspension to dismissal.) What it is all about in this situation is separating your political role (and those of other appointees) from the advisor/government/servant of the public role that you receive compensation for via taxpayer dollars. When you use government property, time, or location to discuss or plan a political action, the Hatch Act could well ensnare you in a very meaningful way. Of course, and on the other hand, if the method for avoiding the Act is to cloak or cover the genesis of such communications, then arguments about advisor status replete with executive privilege might become a stretch. An interesting dilemma! (I’ve always admired the tenacity of Congressman Waxman, by the way.)
March 26th, 2007 at 5:08 pm#
I’m warning you liberal terrist lovers. You will be ripped apart. Don’t believe me? Just watch! That is what we will do to you liberal surrender monkeys! Growl!
Comment by Misha The Mutt — March 26, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
I clicked on the link and my browser crashed. Is it not illegal to
March 26th, 2007 at 5:45 pmpost these sorts of things here?
Shouldn’t this misha person be banned now?
DON’T YOU BE TRASHING AND SHREDDING ANY EVIDENCE, FAT-F*CK Rove and OTHER CRIMINALS OF Bushland Uber Allies!!!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 8:00 pmWhat the committee ought to do - something that anyone with an email server would be subject to - is to order that the servers, backups, - everything - be confiscated as evidence.
Likely these creeps do not retain any of the correspondence (other than the NSA perhaps?) so the evidence is gone anyhow, but the theatre alone would be worth the cost.
Who would execute the subpoena of Congress? Why, the “justice” department, of course.
Nice system we got here, eh?
March 26th, 2007 at 9:01 pm27 - If only you felt that way about America’s enemies and not your political enemies, maybe we could win the war on terror. Can I waterboard some sense into you?
Comment by NeoCONs Fart Terrorists
Maybe if you took some of your considerable hostility towards liberals on out terrorists instead of acting like a typical chickenhawk armchair warrior, the USA would be winning the war on terror. Why aren’t you in Iraq or Afghanistan, which should be the real center of the war on terror?
March 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pm“to protect Karl.â€
Who the **** is this guy that he has apparently got the whole White House and Republican Party kissing his ass??
It’s LONG past time this scumbag was held to account….he does 95% of his e-mail thru the RNC???? But, he still gets a 100% government paycheck.
Can we sue for the money back?
March 26th, 2007 at 9:45 pmShorter Liberals Heart Terrorists:
Mmmmmm, Bush’s ass sure smells good!
March 26th, 2007 at 9:49 pmThis is a partisan witch hunt. Plain and simple.
Comment by Neo-CONs Fart Terrorists —
I would like to say maybe because there are witches to hunt here. However, I don’t want to insult witches.
March 26th, 2007 at 9:51 pmThe whole bunch of Bushies are corrupt, lying fascist and the Congress is finally catching up with them. Rove is like Machialvelli, and believes that all is acceptable if it achieve’s one end..the greater power of Bush…may they all burn in Hell, if there is such a place, for all of eternity…if there is no such place, may their names become like Quisling, a synonym for TRAITOR.
March 27th, 2007 at 6:46 pmLook, silly people, Whitewater/MonicaLewinsky was a witch hunt. A $50 million dollar witch hunt that turned up a stained dress.
This time ’round, we actually have reason to believe a crime—hell, several crimes—were committed, crimes that actually ARE in the public interest, not lying about an affair.
I don’t think asking emails that are supposed to be preserved BY LAW to be preserved is very controversial. UNLESS THEY DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
Of course, the chances those emails haven’t already been conveniently misplaced is pretty slim.
March 29th, 2007 at 12:27 amSomeone on this thread wrote that “Bush won by three million”. Three million? What planet do you live on? The last I heard was that he “won” by 537 votes in Florida (if a dem had won, there would have been nationwide calls for a nationwide recount. As it was, even mentioning the word “recount” was forcefully ridiculed, and of course rejected, by shenanigans)
More like it to come, unless we start, real soon AGITATING. For clean and fair, and auditable elections.
PAPER ONLY ballots (no more machines), counted by hand, precinct by precinct (most are small enough for this), overseen by random citizens from the precinct.
So we need to start by cleansing the election boards,
April 1st, 2007 at 10:19 pmCynical Girl and Christine raise an interesting point which I also heard on the radio the other night. Since Karl et al are not using the .gov email system it is possible that those emails are not considered “privileged communications” under the law and may be much easier to obtain once they are located by investigators. Possibly Henry Waxman could subpoena those emails and the WH could not refuse to comply.
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