Comments on: Waxman Warns RNC, Bush-Cheney ‘04 Campaign: Don’t Delete Your Emails http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:43:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Gay Incest Gay Cumshots Gay Jock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-4837668 Gay Incest Gay Cumshots Gay Jock Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:54:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-4837668 <strong>Gay Incest Gay Cumshots Gay Jock</strong> I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view Gay Incest Gay Cumshots Gay Jock

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]]> By: CREW Calls for Special Investigator to Look at Missing Emails « The Late Blog w/ Eric H http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-3705451 CREW Calls for Special Investigator to Look at Missing Emails « The Late Blog w/ Eric H Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:44:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-3705451 [...] factors: 1) revelations that Karl Rove uses a Republican National Committee (RNC) email account for 95 percent of his communications; 2) the admission from the RNC’s counsel that all of Mr. Rove’s [...] [...] factors: 1) revelations that Karl Rove uses a Republican National Committee (RNC) email account for 95 percent of his communications; 2) the admission from the RNC’s counsel that all of Mr. Rove’s [...]

]]> By: WeedHighBuckeye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-3207385 WeedHighBuckeye Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:33:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-3207385 Misha the Mutt....you're going to hump our teddy bears??? Misha the Mutt….you’re going to hump our teddy bears???

]]> By: JohnK http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-3198630 JohnK Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:44:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-3198630 Cynical Girl and Christine raise an interesting point which I also heard on the radio the other night. Since Karl et al are not using the .gov email system it is possible that those emails are not considered "privileged communications" under the law and may be much easier to obtain once they are located by investigators. Possibly Henry Waxman could subpoena those emails and the WH could not refuse to comply. Cynical Girl and Christine raise an interesting point which I also heard on the radio the other night. Since Karl et al are not using the .gov email system it is possible that those emails are not considered “privileged communications” under the law and may be much easier to obtain once they are located by investigators. Possibly Henry Waxman could subpoena those emails and the WH could not refuse to comply.

]]> By: Dana http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-3081969 Dana Mon, 02 Apr 2007 02:19:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-3081969 Someone on this thread wrote that "Bush won by three million". Three million? What planet do you live on? The last I heard was that he "won" by 537 votes in Florida (if a dem had won, there would have been nationwide calls for a nationwide recount. As it was, even mentioning the word "recount" was forcefully ridiculed, and of course rejected, by shenanigans) More like it to come, unless we start, real soon AGITATING. For clean and fair, and auditable elections. PAPER ONLY ballots (no more machines), counted by hand, precinct by precinct (most are small enough for this), overseen by random citizens from the precinct. So we need to start by cleansing the election boards, Someone on this thread wrote that “Bush won by three million”. Three million? What planet do you live on? The last I heard was that he “won” by 537 votes in Florida (if a dem had won, there would have been nationwide calls for a nationwide recount. As it was, even mentioning the word “recount” was forcefully ridiculed, and of course rejected, by shenanigans)

More like it to come, unless we start, real soon AGITATING. For clean and fair, and auditable elections.

PAPER ONLY ballots (no more machines), counted by hand, precinct by precinct (most are small enough for this), overseen by random citizens from the precinct.

So we need to start by cleansing the election boards,

]]> By: Mike http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2738741 Mike Thu, 29 Mar 2007 04:27:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2738741 Look, silly people, Whitewater/MonicaLewinsky was a witch hunt. A $50 million dollar witch hunt that turned up a stained dress. This time 'round, we actually have reason to believe a crime—hell, several crimes—were committed, crimes that actually ARE in the public interest, not lying about an affair. I don't think asking emails that are supposed to be preserved BY LAW to be preserved is very controversial. UNLESS THEY DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL. Of course, the chances those emails haven't already been conveniently misplaced is pretty slim. Look, silly people, Whitewater/MonicaLewinsky was a witch hunt. A $50 million dollar witch hunt that turned up a stained dress.

This time ’round, we actually have reason to believe a crime—hell, several crimes—were committed, crimes that actually ARE in the public interest, not lying about an affair.

I don’t think asking emails that are supposed to be preserved BY LAW to be preserved is very controversial. UNLESS THEY DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL.

Of course, the chances those emails haven’t already been conveniently misplaced is pretty slim.

]]> By: Paul http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2691005 Paul Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:46:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2691005 The whole bunch of Bushies are corrupt, lying fascist and the Congress is finally catching up with them. Rove is like Machialvelli, and believes that all is acceptable if it achieve's one end..the greater power of Bush...may they all burn in Hell, if there is such a place, for all of eternity...if there is no such place, may their names become like Quisling, a synonym for TRAITOR.<strong></strong> The whole bunch of Bushies are corrupt, lying fascist and the Congress is finally catching up with them. Rove is like Machialvelli, and believes that all is acceptable if it achieve’s one end..the greater power of Bush…may they all burn in Hell, if there is such a place, for all of eternity…if there is no such place, may their names become like Quisling, a synonym for TRAITOR.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2637641 Lora Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:51:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2637641 This is a partisan witch hunt. Plain and simple. Comment by Neo-CONs Fart Terrorists — I would like to say maybe because there are witches to hunt here. However, I don't want to insult witches. This is a partisan witch hunt. Plain and simple.
Comment by Neo-CONs Fart Terrorists —

I would like to say maybe because there are witches to hunt here. However, I don’t want to insult witches.

]]> By: marty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2637527 marty Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:49:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2637527 Shorter <i>Liberals Heart Terrorists</i>: Mmmmmm, Bush's ass sure smells good! Shorter Liberals Heart Terrorists:

Mmmmmm, Bush’s ass sure smells good!

]]> By: marty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2637369 marty Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:45:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2637369 <i>“to protect Karl.”</i> Who the **** is this guy that he has apparently got the whole White House and Republican Party kissing his ass?? It's LONG past time this scumbag was held to account....he does 95% of his e-mail thru the RNC???? But, he still gets a 100% government paycheck. Can we sue for the money back? “to protect Karl.”

Who the **** is this guy that he has apparently got the whole White House and Republican Party kissing his ass??

It’s LONG past time this scumbag was held to account….he does 95% of his e-mail thru the RNC???? But, he still gets a 100% government paycheck.

Can we sue for the money back?

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2637138 Lora Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:36:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2637138 27 - If only you felt that way about America’s enemies and not your political enemies, maybe we could win the war on terror. Can I waterboard some sense into you? Comment by NeoCONs Fart Terrorists Maybe if you took some of your considerable hostility towards liberals on out terrorists instead of acting like a typical chickenhawk armchair warrior, the USA would be winning the war on terror. Why aren't you in Iraq or Afghanistan, which should be the real center of the war on terror? 27 – If only you felt that way about America’s enemies and not your political enemies, maybe we could win the war on terror. Can I waterboard some sense into you?
Comment by NeoCONs Fart Terrorists

Maybe if you took some of your considerable hostility towards liberals on out terrorists instead of acting like a typical chickenhawk armchair warrior, the USA would be winning the war on terror. Why aren’t you in Iraq or Afghanistan, which should be the real center of the war on terror?

]]> By: Mark Richards http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2635576 Mark Richards Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:01:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2635576 What the committee ought to do - something that anyone with an email server would be subject to - is to order that the servers, backups, - everything - be confiscated as evidence. Likely these creeps do not retain any of the correspondence (other than the NSA perhaps?) so the evidence is gone anyhow, but the theatre alone would be worth the cost. Who would execute the subpoena of Congress? Why, the "justice" department, of course. Nice system we got here, eh? What the committee ought to do – something that anyone with an email server would be subject to – is to order that the servers, backups, – everything – be confiscated as evidence.

Likely these creeps do not retain any of the correspondence (other than the NSA perhaps?) so the evidence is gone anyhow, but the theatre alone would be worth the cost.

Who would execute the subpoena of Congress? Why, the “justice” department, of course.

Nice system we got here, eh?

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2633385 Raymond Funamoto Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:00:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2633385 DON'T YOU BE TRASHING AND SHREDDING ANY EVIDENCE, FAT-F*CK Rove and OTHER CRIMINALS OF Bushland Uber Allies!!!!! DON’T YOU BE TRASHING AND SHREDDING ANY EVIDENCE, FAT-F*CK Rove and OTHER CRIMINALS OF Bushland Uber Allies!!!!!

]]> By: Trevor http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2627951 Trevor Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:45:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2627951 # I’m warning you liberal terrist lovers. You will be ripped apart. Don’t believe me? Just watch! That is what we will do to you liberal surrender monkeys! Growl! Comment by Misha The Mutt — March 26, 2007 @ 1:33 pm I clicked on the link and my browser crashed. Is it not illegal to post these sorts of things here? Shouldn't this misha person be banned now? #

I’m warning you liberal terrist lovers. You will be ripped apart. Don’t believe me? Just watch! That is what we will do to you liberal surrender monkeys! Growl!

Comment by Misha The Mutt — March 26, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

I clicked on the link and my browser crashed. Is it not illegal to
post these sorts of things here?
Shouldn’t this misha person be banned now?

]]> By: christine http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2626289 christine Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:08:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2626289 As a former US gov employee--attorney and manager for 30 years--I find it difficult to read about the alleged email setup with Rove and his boys/girls without repeating what I was occasionally called to advise others. That is, as #42 so nicely puts it, remember the Hatch Act. And, even tho it has been amended from time to time, the Hatch Act has reach and consequences (e.g., reprimand to suspension to dismissal.) What it is all about in this situation is separating your political role (and those of other appointees) from the advisor/government/servant of the public role that you receive compensation for via taxpayer dollars. When you use government property, time, or location to discuss or plan a political action, the Hatch Act could well ensnare you in a very meaningful way. Of course, and on the other hand, if the method for avoiding the Act is to cloak or cover the genesis of such communications, then arguments about advisor status replete with executive privilege might become a stretch. An interesting dilemma! (I've always admired the tenacity of Congressman Waxman, by the way.) As a former US gov employee–attorney and manager for 30 years–I find it difficult to read about the alleged email setup with Rove and his boys/girls without repeating what I was occasionally called to advise others. That is, as #42 so nicely puts it, remember the Hatch Act. And, even tho it has been amended from time to time, the Hatch Act has reach and consequences (e.g., reprimand to suspension to dismissal.) What it is all about in this situation is separating your political role (and those of other appointees) from the advisor/government/servant of the public role that you receive compensation for via taxpayer dollars. When you use government property, time, or location to discuss or plan a political action, the Hatch Act could well ensnare you in a very meaningful way. Of course, and on the other hand, if the method for avoiding the Act is to cloak or cover the genesis of such communications, then arguments about advisor status replete with executive privilege might become a stretch. An interesting dilemma! (I’ve always admired the tenacity of Congressman Waxman, by the way.)

]]> By: drew_ill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2625723 drew_ill Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:54:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2625723 Chimp in Chief - "Whut's that y'say? Duh-lete mah RNC e-mails? Okey dokey, I duz whatever'n ol' Dick 'n Karl tell me to anywayz, huyh huyh huyh!! Ohhh, you said DON'T duh-lete mah e-mailz. Dang it, now I gone an done it. Guess'n y'all be havin' a hard time pinnin' this'n on me, huyh huyh huyh!! Ol' dubya's a gonna git it!! Right in tha patootie, huyh huyh huyh!!" Chimp in Chief – “Whut’s that y’say? Duh-lete mah RNC e-mails? Okey dokey, I duz whatever’n ol’ Dick ‘n Karl tell me to anywayz, huyh huyh huyh!! Ohhh, you said DON’T duh-lete mah e-mailz. Dang it, now I gone an done it. Guess’n y’all be havin’ a hard time pinnin’ this’n on me, huyh huyh huyh!! Ol’ dubya’s a gonna git it!! Right in tha patootie, huyh huyh huyh!!”

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2624611 RUCerious Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:27:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2624611 Proud Dem ~ And they're really not deleted even after you delete them. A forensic specialist can go into a hard drive and recover almost any file that's ever been written to that drive... Proud Dem ~
And they’re really not deleted even after you delete them.
A forensic specialist can go into a hard drive and recover almost any file that’s ever been written to that drive…

]]> By: Yachts and Lattes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2624360 Yachts and Lattes Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:18:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2624360 I love how the trolls in this thread are engaging the issue. "Look over there! Look over there! ClintonClintonClinton! GoreGoreGore! 911911911! It's. Over. I love how the trolls in this thread are engaging the issue. “Look over there! Look over there! ClintonClintonClinton! GoreGoreGore! 911911911!

It’s. Over.

]]> By: Proud Dem http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2624132 Proud Dem Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:13:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2624132 Yes, RUCerious, Microsoft has made nigh impossible to truly delete emails. Unless you really know what you are doing, they will stay there somewhere in your hard drive (network drive, whatever) until someone goes in and manually deletes them from deep inside. Just because you say you want it deleted, doesn't mean it REALLY gets deleted. Yes, RUCerious,

Microsoft has made nigh impossible to truly delete emails. Unless you really know what you are doing, they will stay there somewhere in your hard drive (network drive, whatever) until someone goes in and manually deletes them from deep inside.

Just because you say you want it deleted, doesn’t mean it REALLY gets deleted.

]]> By: DM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/comment-page-2/#comment-2624015 DM Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:11:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/26/rnc-emails-waxman/#comment-2624015 Of course they can choose not to comply with the investigation... but claiming the right to refuse as a private entity may disqualify the organization from sponsoring candidates on federal election ballots. Your choice GOP. Of course they can choose not to comply with the investigation… but claiming the right to refuse as a private entity may disqualify the organization from sponsoring candidates on federal election ballots.

Your choice GOP.

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