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White House still supporting Gonzales.

By Amanda Terkel on Mar 26th, 2007 at 11:16 am

White House still supporting Gonzales.

Even though both liberal and conservative lawmakers, pundits, members of the media, and the American public are pushing for Gonzales’s resignation, the White House refuses to budge. “We are not negotiating,” White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said. “We are where we are, which is where we were last week. I can understand why people would think we have not made the right decision, but we think we have.”



96 Responses to “White House still supporting Gonzales.”

  1. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Stick to yer guns, Chimpy!

    Let the Gonzo millstone drag you all the way to the bottom.

    In Pace Requisat.


  2. Bush voters, sorry yet? says:

    The Decider will continue to isolate himself from his own base with his inability to adapt to the political realities at hand.


  3. katy says:

    “I can understand why people would think we have not made the right decision…” -d.p.

    so, it seems that she also agrees gonzo should be gone…

    but NOT resigned… IMPEACHED… INDICTED… whatever it takes
    that he can never practice “law” ever again…
    .


  4. brando says:

    The decider has decided to play “chicken” with Congress and the American People. He is in for a world of political hurt, i’m afraid. We have had enough of his bullshit.


  5. Pete Bogs says:

    yes, Mr. President, please explain why you continue to support a man who has repeatedly lied to Congress… by his job description, he’s supposed to be one of the “good guys”


  6. Punchy says:

    Fine with me. This one AG will bring down the entire Admin with his liesa and malfeasance.


  7. jeff says:

    I can understand why people would think we have not made the right decision

    What the hell does that mean? LOL keep it up chimpster. And remember, your friends in the congress and senate set you up like a bowling pin. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  8. Chris L says:

    Government OF the people, BY the people, FOR the people . Our elected leaders seem to forget they work for us, the people. I am not saying that our leadership should sway to the winds of public opinion, however, this is a situation where both sides of the aisle are crying out with the same voice, and neither side is being heard. I post often on TP, but I am rather moderate and also post on right-wing blogs as well. I am seeing the same comments on both sides. The American people in general want Gonzales gone.


  9. Jake says:

    Lots of us think you’ve made the right decision too, Dana.


  10. Quadrajet says:

    As I remember, they also claimed rummy wasn’t going anywhere right up until the day he got the boot.


  11. Badmoodman says:

    Fredo Gonzalez: “It ain’t the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I’m smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb… I’m smart and I want respect!”


  12. dlet says:

    “We are where we are, which is where we were last week. I can understand why people would think we have not made the right decision, but we think we have.”

    Which wrong position is she talking about?


  13. Jake says:

    Pete Bogs:

    Why don’t you let Gonzales explain himself (he is currently scheduled to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee the Tuesday after recess break)? No one has PROVEN he lied to Congress.


  14. Loonie says:

    “We are not negotiating,”

    Seems right on track for White House diplomacy.


  15. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Inaccuracy alert.

    Upon reading the article, WH spokeswoman Dana Perino’s comments quoted above were not in reference to Gonzo, but to the WH’s decision to keep top WH aides from testifying before Congress.

    The tenor from the WH regarding Gonzo is rather different, with them allegedly “placing the onus on Gonzales to explain himself to lawmakers”.

    Here’s what Perino said in direct reference to Gonzo:

    “The attorney general, as the president said, needs to get up to Capitol Hill and to continue to talk about this issue,” Perino said.

    So, upon further reflection, the WH support for Gonzo isn’t nearly as unwavering and absolute as TP would have us believe.

    Rather sloppy, TP. Apparently you’re in need of a writer.

    I’m available, but we need to talk about salary and bennies. ^_^


  16. katy says:

    “We are where we are, which is where we were last week.”

    a graduate of the don rumsfeld school of public speaking…


  17. Angry One says:

    Alberto Gonzales’s own firing offenses go well beyond politically motivated sackings of U.S. attorneys. For more, see:
    “The Top 10 Reasons Gonzales Must Go.”

    For the latest news, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
    “The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”


  18. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Jake sez:

    Lots of us think you’ve made the right decision too, Dana.

    Who’s ‘us’, Shakey? Got a pocketful of mice over there?


  19. Badmoodman says:

    Jake: “No one has PROVEN he lied to Congress.” – - You think like these people do; that not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth. Quite a standard for the highest law enforcement official in this country.


  20. SouthWest Bob says:

    Again Americans will experience the “character” of GWB. . . the president who never makes a mistake! He is simply incapable of putting his personal desires and beliefs to the side when it comes to assessing his decisions. Of course, he never makes a mistake, so why should he?

    This man is incapable of comprehending anything outside of his limited world view…which is why the USA is now viewed as being incapable of leading on significant and important issues.


  21. JIMBO says:

    It’s official, The Chimperor BoyKing God, his administartion and fellow neocons have declared war on Congress,the American Public and the World.

    The only way out of this nightmare is IMPEACHMENT. IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH.


  22. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    Gonzales has repeated LIED to the American people on this.

    Gonzales also LIED to Congress when he said, “I would never, ever make a change in a United States Attorney position for political reasons, or if it would in any way jeopardize an ongoing serious investigation,” — Attorney General Alberto Gonzales told the Senate Judiciary Committee on January 18th.


  23. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Badmoonman sez:

    You think like these people do; that not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth.

    While that may indeed be the case, the fact remains that Gonzo was indeed ‘caught in a lie’.

    Apparently, Jake believes that continuing to deny the lie, in spite of overwhelming evidence, is the same thing as telling the truth.


  24. OxyCon says:

    The Bushies have to save Gone-zo because Gone-zo is the only thing standing between Bush and impeachment.
    Bush was in on the plan to politicize the US Attorneys, an impeachable offense, therefore the bleeding has to stop with Gone-zo or there will be nothing stopping Congress from nailing Bush.


  25. chimpeach says:

    #9 Jake

    Lots of us think you’ve made the right decision too, Dana.

    Almost everyone in your ward, isn’t it? Not counting staff, that is.


  26. Quadrajet says:

    Jake, what’s your position on the evidence released on Friday that shows gonzo to be a liar about his involvement?


  27. Badmoodman says:

    “Gonzales has repeated(sic) LIED to the American people on this.”
    - – I really don’t think they consider it lying. It’s more like they’re all circle-jerking enablers.


  28. JesusChrist_GodofWAR says:

    I heard a talk this weekend where an author has written a book about how our forefathers were pretty smart. They said that if ever there was a day when both Congress and the WhiteHouse were so corrupt that they failed to do the will of the people, that there was another way to get impeachment of those in power.

    The alternative path is that the states themselves can bring impeachment charges against the corrupt individuals in Washington.

    If the Dem’s in Congress won’t do the right thing, maybe the states can?

    In any event, if BushCo wants to play chicken with Congress, and if the Dem’s “blink”, then we still have other ways of getting at these b*st*rds.

    ITMFA now!!!


  29. chimpeach says:

    #13 Jake

    Why don’t you let Gonzales explain himself (he is currently scheduled to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee the Tuesday after recess break)? No one has PROVEN he lied to Congress.

    He had a chance to explain himself already. That’s when he lied and said he wasn’t involved in the firings. Does this ring a bell?

    QUESTION: How could your chief of staff be working closely with the president on which U.S. attorneys to be let go and you not know?

    GONZALES: Well, again, as — I accept responsibility for whatever happens here in this department. But I have 110,000 working in the department. Obviously, there are going to be decisions made that I’m not aware of all the time. All the decisions are delegated to people who are confirmed by the Senate, who are — by statute, have been delegated authority to make decisions.


  30. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Comment by Quadrajet — March 26, 2007 @ 11:36 am

    Don’t expect an answer, QJ….if you’re not already on The List â„¢, that difficult question is certain to land you there.


  31. CONservative says:

    I can understand why people would think we have not made the right decision…

    Apparently no you don’t understand you twit, cause the reason we think you haven’t made the right decision is because YOU HAVEN’T…what a novel concept!


  32. Mash says:

    I dug into a little more detail about Carol Lam’s firing and MZM’s contracts with the government and the gravy train into the White House. The results should lead to more reporting and FOIA requests.

    Here’s my post – it has links to the three separate blanket purchase agreements that MZM was milking – instead of one that has been widely reported. One of the BPAs was the one used by the White House to pay $140,000 to MZM which ended up two weeks later in Cunningham’s hands. The $140,000 White House job was not an isolated contract as we have been led to believe – it was part of a much larger BPA already signed in May 2002.


  33. pgw says:

    gonzales is just the latest member of this administration who puts party above country:

    “Griles, the former deputy secretary of the Department of the Interior, has pleaded guilty to obstructing the U.S. Senate’s investigation into the corruption allegations surrounding former Washington lobbyist Jack A. Abramoff.

    Griles admitted that he knowingly and willfully lied and concealed material information about the relationship that he had with Abramoff.”


  34. CONservative says:

    No one has PROVEN he lied to Congress.

    Comment by Jake

    Apparently someone hasn’t heard of email, cause Bozo Gonzo has already been exposed as having lied to Congress.


  35. TripMaster Monkey says:

    JesusChrist_GodOfWar sez:

    The alternative path is that the states themselves can bring impeachment charges against the corrupt individuals in Washington.

    Check here for some more info on state-initiated impeachment.


  36. Quadrajet says:

    Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 26, 2007 @ 11:40 am

    I submitted my application for the list last night Trip but haven’t received confirmation yet, so I thought I’d pose a question that might expedite it.


  37. Robert says:

    Want to really scare the White House? Some Publisher should offer Gonzo a $2 Million dollar offer for a 100% “Tell All” book on his White House/AG Years with the book to be ready by the end of the year. Gonzo isn’t a rich man and might just be tempted…


  38. JesusChrist_GodofWAR says:

    #35 – Check here ( http://impeachpac.org/node/897 ) for some more info on state-initiated impeachment.

    Sweet! Right on!!! That’s what I was looking for.

    State legislators in Illinois and California have introduced resolutions (details below) to initiate impeachment proceedings against President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

    The Jefferson Manual of rules for the U.S. House of Representatives allows state legislatures to initiate impeachment proceedings by submitting charges to Congress.

    In Vermont, Representative David Zuckerman plans to introduce a similar resolution this week. In Pennsylvania, State Senator Jim Ferlo is collecting signatures on petitions calling for Congress to launch an impeachment inquiry.

    Eleven cities and towns have already passed resolutions calling for impeachment. At 9 a.m. on May 1, Ellen Tenney, a small business owner in Rockingham, VT, will lead a delegation presenting a number of these resolutions to House Speaker Dennis Hastert at his office, 235 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, D.C.

    It’s SpringTime and hope springs eternal.

    ITMFA now!!!


  39. pgw says:

    what does that crazy liberal robert novak think?:

    “With nearly two years remaining in his presidency, Bush is alone. In half a century, I have not seen a president so isolated from his own party in Congress — not Jimmy Carter, not even Richard Nixon as he faced impeachment.

    Republicans in Congress do not trust Bush to protect them. That alone is sufficient reason to withhold statements of support for Gonzales…”


  40. Jake says:

    SouthWest Bob:

    Bush has admitted to mistakes — nonetheless, he WAS elected twice by LOTS of people — last time I checked, millions of Americans still qualifies as LOTS.

    JIMBO:

    I don’t agree it is a “nightmare” but we do agree that the only way out if it were would be impeqhment. Congress can’t force the President to testify, for instance. I think impeachment is your only shot.

    Badmoodman, And You Thought, and CONservative:

    Yes, I know all about the email that purports to show an hour meeting on the topic, but if you weren’t there, how do you know he lied? At worst, he could have forgotten the meeting. At least Libby’s memory problem was PROVEN as a lie. What I am saying here is that no one has PROVEN Speedy “Torture” Gonzales a liar — you are not even willing to waiting until the Tuesday after recess break to hear his side of the story.

    Robert:

    Gonzales (as all former U.S. Attorneys) would still be bound by the federal rules of DoJ regulations against disclosing certain info — there is still such a thing as attorney-client privilege in this country too.


  41. Jake says:

    impeqhment = impeachment (and good luck with that if Pelosi could barely buy the votes to pass the “Withdrawal out of Iraq” defeat bill ; )


  42. firehead says:

    Libs do you deny Bush’s proven record?

    - Made America safer since 9/11, no attacks since then

    - millions of jobs created since the Recession, which he ended

    - brought back ethics to the White Hose after the dark years of Clinton

    - stock market is booming, economy is thriving

    - poverty on the decline

    - liberated 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq

    - went on the offense in the war on terror, killing literally thousands of terrorists

    - saved the health care system with percription drug plan

    - made Amerians feel happier, safer, and proud to be American


  43. helenahandbasket says:

    jake: It all depends on what the definition of “Obstruction of Justice” is.
    Are you really that dense?


  44. chimpeach says:

    #40 Jake

    At worst, he could have forgotten the meeting. At least Libby’s memory problem was PROVEN as a lie. What I am saying here is that no one has PROVEN Speedy “Torture” Gonzales a liar — you are not even willing to waiting until the Tuesday after recess break to hear his side of the story.

    And when he gets his story wrong then and omits important facts, he can blame it on a crappy memory again. What a wondeful thing the failed memory defense is. It’s just like a get-out-of jail-free card. It’s amazing that everyone doesn’t use that.

    Police and prosecutors don’t tolerate “I forget” from petty criminals. There’s no reason we should have to put up with that bullshit from world-class crooks like Gonzales. When you’re under oath, that’s your chance to say “I forget”, not afterwards when you get caught lying. But, only if you really did forget.


  45. Michael says:

    I’m thinking that maybe the Prez and Vice Prez and Chief Animal Gizzards and Other Innards Prognosticator (i.e., Rove) are thinking that if they can keep Gonzales in front of them long enough as a human shield and let him catch all the political bullets, then when they reach the exit stairwell in 2008, they can dump him and run off. After Gonzales goes, Rove and Cheney are next in line. And after them, the Prez. The clock is running and there are no time outs left.


  46. Jake says:

    For the record, it’s too late for anyone else who asked me a question above — that’s why one would want to avoid the “Ignore List” in the first place — the only ways to get on the List (no form required) is to answer my questions when I was answering all of your questions, resort to personal attacks against me when I obviously don’t, or 4 people so far have requested to be included. If anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) has any questions about the topic of “Common Courtesy”, please let me know.


  47. CONservative says:

    Bush has admitted to mistakes…
    but if you weren’t there, how do you know he lied…
    What I am saying here is that no one has PROVEN Speedy “Torture” Gonzales a liar…
    i am a registered independent

    OK I threw the last one in there, but the point is still the same: some people will keep trying to perpetrate the CON even after said CON has been exposed (putting the CON in CONservative).


  48. VerbalKint says:

    I’m glad to see Bush squandering the Republic party’s last chance to avoid stunning defeat in 2008.


  49. Jake says:

    helenahandbasket:

    No, because no one has PROVEN obstruction of justice either. I would be very surprised if there are not at least SOME legitimate performance issues with these 8 U.S. Attorneys — I am the first to say if you can PROVE Speedy “Torture” Gonzales lied, he should resign or be impeached — I am patient enough to get all the facts first.

    Michael:

    Or, no one is guilty of any crime and that’s why they are all staying.


  50. Jake says:

    TYPO: one of the 3 only ways to get on the List is to NOT answer my questions back when I was answering all of your questions — that’s just “Common Courtesy” where I come from.


  51. JesusChrist_GodofWAR says:

    It’s interesting to watch Emperor George stew in the boiling roiling cauldron of his own creation.

    Keep Gitmo Abu Gonzo on your staff! America could use the target practice.


  52. Jake says:

    CONservative:

    Are you accusing ME of lying now too? None of those statements you quoted (#2 was actually a question, which I will note for the record YOU have not answered) are “lies” but maybe now I see it is a definitional problem. Here is my definition of “lie”: to knowingly not tell the truth. What is your definition?


  53. Quadrajet says:

    If anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) has any questions about the topic of “Common Courtesy”, please let me know.
    Comment by Jake — March 26, 2007 @ 12:15 pm

    Hmmmm, so you’re like an internet ‘Miss Manners’ eh Jake? Hope you’ve got a better grasp on that subject than, well, everything else you’ve ever discussed.


  54. War4Sale says:

    In reaffirming his support for Gonzales, Bush has sent a clear message to America – “I approve of lying to your representatives in congress. I and my administration are above the law and do not care how you feel about that.”

    Bush is literally daring us to impeach him. What more does he have to do before we accept his challenge and draw our own line in the sand?

    http://www.impeachbush.org


  55. CONservative says:

    Comment by firehead

    Okay everybody gather round, it’s fairytale storytime with fairyhead.

    - Made America safer since 9/11, no attacks since then
    - millions of jobs created since the Recession, which he ended
    - brought back ethics to the White Hose after the dark years of Clinton
    - stock market is booming, economy is thriving
    - poverty on the decline
    - liberated 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq
    - went on the offense in the war on terror, killing literally thousands of terrorists
    - saved the health care system with percription drug plan
    - made Amerians feel happier, safer, and proud to be American

    Sometimes you wonder if people like this just post any ol’ garbage just for the sake of getting a response. I know I shouldn’t acknowledge people that suffer from cranial rectumitis THIS badly…by the way fairyhead, use spell check or something (White Hose? Amerians? percription?)


  56. Quadrajet says:

    BTW Jake, any chance you give laundry tips too? We’ve got a nasty stain on the constitution, any idea how to get it out?


  57. RemoveBush says:

    Libs do you deny Bush’s proven record?

    - Made America safer since 9/11, no attacks since then

    - millions of jobs created since the Recession, which he ended

    - brought back ethics to the White Hose after the dark years of Clinton

    - stock market is booming, economy is thriving

    - poverty on the decline

    - liberated 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq

    - went on the offense in the war on terror, killing literally thousands of terrorists

    - saved the health care system with percription drug plan

    - made Amerians feel happier, safer, and proud to be American

    Comment by firehead — March 26, 2007 @ 12:11 pm

    WHAT!!! Allow me to tear your little wall down…..

    - Not being attacked since 9/11 has NOTHING to do with Bush! It was 8 years between the 1993 False Flag bombing and the 2001 False Flag Attack.

    - Not even close to what Clinton Created…… No where even in the vacinity of the jobs created under Clinton.

    - WHAT??? 1) Lying to Congress, 2) Committing War Crimes, 3) Spying on Americans (Planned only 3 weeks after getting into office), 4) Breaking the Geneva Conventions (Torcher), 5) Not providing Habeous Corpus (SP?) to AMERICAN Citizens, 6) Committing TREASON! (He was warned about 9/11 and did nothing. AF1 was threatened using coded language, so the attack came from within the government and Bush did nothing. Meaning that he became part of the crime and COMMITTED TREASON)

    - In what world do you live?? I have less money now than I had under Clinton and my lifestyle was much better under Clinton. I had extra money to spend. I make more now, but have less to spend because of the high prices of gas, food, electricity, etc.

    - Poverty is on the RISE! Many VETS are on the street and living in their cars. Many forclosure families are living in their cars…..

    - Killed 650,000+ Iraqis, and made MILLIONS flee their homes….. Torchered citizens that were not in any way criminals or fighters. Liberation does not come at the end of a gun moron!!!

    - WRONG!!!! Killinig litterally thousands of INOCENT people. Bush deserves to be put in a fireing squad for his WAR CRIMES and have a bullet put between his eyes.


  58. pgw says:

    “- Made America safer since 9/11, no attacks since then”

    so attacks in spain and the u.k. are fine. got it.


  59. SKdeA says:

    OK, today’s posts by firehead are just too far out to be serious, He has to be a parody troll.
    And Jake has a little, tiny… list.


  60. JesusChrist_GodofWAR says:

    #55 – Sometimes you wonder if people like this just post any ol’ garbage just for the sake of getting a response…

    Either they’re like the WWII vets still living on a remote island who never got word that that particular war was over long ago, or…

    … they are sucking Karl’s d*ck, or…

    … their frat house pulled the plug on the Emperor George Wanker Bushy Memorial Keg, or…

    … their meds haven’t kicked in yet because the charge nurse knows that too much sedation can stop a patient’s breathing…


  61. CONservative says:

    CONservative:

    Are you accusing ME of lying now too?

    No, only of maybe too much blind faith in bad leaders.


  62. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Jake sez:

    For the record…

    Translation: I’m pompously addressing the whole thread, because virtually everyone here is on The List â„¢.

    it’s too late for anyone else who asked me a question above — that’s why one would want to avoid the “Ignore List” in the first place

    What’s the difference, Jake? You ignore anyone who asks you questions too difficult for you to answer anyway. As soon as we expose your ridiculous talking points, you scurry away. The List â„¢ is just your way of making the scurrying easier for yourself.

    the only ways to get on the List (no form required) is to answer my questions when I was answering all of your questions

    Well, that’s honest, at least. Answer too many of Shakey’s questions…wind up on The List â„¢.

    resort to personal attacks against me when I obviously don’t

    BWAH HA HA HA HA! Two things wrong with that, Shakey.

    1) Questioning your reading comprehension skills doesn’t not fall into the category of ‘personal attacks’ when they’re so obviously questionable.

    2) You engage in personal attacks here all the time, Jake. I’ll make up another edition of “Jake’s Biggest Lies” to showcase some of them if you like.

    or 4 people so far have requested to be included.

    For the curious, here’s a sample request form. Just substitute your own information, and post it in any thread where Jake is displaying his idiocy:

    Jake’s Get on my Ignore list form:

    Name: TripMaster Monkey
    Reason: Fact-checks Shakey-Jake’s specious arguments and refutes them with verifiable facts. Has an annoying habit of asking Shakey questions he’s unable to answer. Shares the rest of the TP community’s general revulsion at his use of rape as humor, as well as his attempted hijacking of the Elizabeth Edwards thread to advance his own pernicious anti-Podesta agenda.
    Quote of the Day: Poisonously disingenuous or terminally stupid? Which is it, Jake?

    OK, I filled out your form. Please add me to The List â„¢.

    (P.S.: I’d like to be on the complete subscription of The List ™, please, rather than the half-assed one where you refuse to address me directly, but still insist on referring to me in the third-person. Kthx.)

    Just fill out and submit, and you’ll never have to hold another tedious dialog with Jake again. Liberating, isn’t it?

    If anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) has any questions about the topic of “Common Courtesy”, please let me know.

    I don’t think anyone’s yet actually taken you up on your gracious ‘offers’ you’ve strewn about the threads lately, Shakey. Rather like my dog ‘offering’ his business for me to step in. No thanks.

    Troll on, you crazy diamond…


  63. Jake says:

    pgw:

    We are fight the war against terrorists because of Madrid and London bombings too, but frankly, yes — better ANYWHERE than here.

    SKdeA:

    There are plenty of people not on the “Ignore List” — did you have a question about the topic though?

    CONservative:

    Thanks, but there’s still a pending question: “If you weren’t there [at the DoJ meeting] how do you know he lied?” Also, this is your last warning, and I think I am being very generous here. I have answered every one of your questions on this thread, but if you won’t return the same courtesy, you will be placed on the “Ignore List”.


  64. Jake says:

    Does anyone else (NOT on the “Ignore List”) have a different definition of “lie” they are applying to Speedy “Torture” Gonzales?


  65. chimpeach says:

    #42 firehead

    Libs do you deny Bush’s proven record?

    - [blah-blah-blah]

    Firehead, do you deny that all of that stuff you listed was utter crap and that you don’t seriously expect us to believe any of it? Are you going to tell us that you are so deranged as to actually believe what you’re saying? Will you admit that you just post silly stuff like that to get people to think you’re an idiot?


  66. CONservative says:

    but if you won’t return the same courtesy, you will be placed on the “Ignore List”.

    My definition of lying is about the same as yours…to knowingly not tell the truth. There’s more than enough evidence staring us in the face that he lied…under oath, no less. If this still puts me on The List â„¢, nice knowing ya. I don’t spend enough time on here that I would know the difference anyway! =)


  67. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    Jake: You addressed my evidence that Gonzo LIED when he said he would “never, ever make a change in a United States Attorney position for political reasons” by addressing his participation in the one-hour-long meeting? First, if he forgot he was in that meeting, he still LIED in the statement above. Second, he’s in charge of the Justice Department and there is ample evidence the dismissals were POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.

    Gonzo Lied to Congress.

    Please Add me to your “ignore list.” Who gives a F&&K if you ignore one of us? Just because your positions are indefensible??


  68. Jake says:

    Firehead:

    I agree with you that America has not been attacked by the terrorists since we took the fight to them, but those posting against you will never agree Bush made us safer. Keep posting the facts for the lurkers though.


  69. Jake says:

    CONservative:

    As long as you answer my questions, in a civil manner, I will return the same courtesy. You didn’t answer how you could know he is lying if you weren’t at the DoJ meeting? At least you I and don’t include HONESTLY FORGETTING a meeting as a LIE. That’s a start : )


  70. pgw says:

    “Speedy Gonzales” is funny because he’s latino! that’s funny in an “independent” kind of way!


  71. mparker says:

    Liars supporting liars.

    Jake and firehead.

    Worthless.


  72. Jake says:

    pgw:

    The only place I’ve seen that reference is here at TP, which is why I use it to mock your side as often as I can.


  73. pgw says:

    considering you listen to “Dr. Laura”, you really shouldn’t be mocking anybody’s “side”


  74. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Jake sez:

    The only place I’ve seen that reference is here at TP, which is why I use it to mock your side as often as I can.

    Doesn’t sound too ‘courteous’, Jakers.

    Paging hypocrisy to the Gonzales thread…hypocrisy to the Gonzales thread…


  75. Jake says:

    I only listen to her when Hannity goes to commercial break ; )



  76. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Jake sez:

    http://www.google.com/ search?=site%3Athinkprogress.org+speedy

    For the record – 232 hits

    For the record, Shakey, not all appearances of the word ’speedy’ are references to Gonzo (again, I’m embarrassed for you).

    A search for “Speedy Gonzales” at Think Progress, OTOH, nets only 22 hits, many of which are duplicates.

    Pretty pathetic attempt at inflating the stats, Jake. Just the stellar debate tactics we’ve learned to expect from you.

    (BTW…’for the record’, your link is broken, genius.)



  77. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    OK Right-WINGNUTS:

    AGAIN:

    Bush and Cheney REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 commission, a commission they resisted forming for over a YEAR,

    about their involvement with 9/11, the Bin Ladens, and the Saudi FINANCIERS OF TERRORISTS.

    Then attacked Iraq.

    Osama is STILL FREE 5 1/2 years later.

    Bush and Cheney are EVIL CRIMINALS and TRAITORS to EVERYTHING the USA once stood for.

    Harry Belafonte was RIGHT:

    Bush, Cheney and the PNAC are THE BIGGEST TERRORISTS.

    God Bless America and the WORLD!

    BURN IN HELL, MURDERER Bush the PUNK coxucker TRAITOR to the USA…


  78. bob (not the hacker) says:

    Comment from Jake: “Gonzales (as all former U.S. Attorneys) would still be bound by the federal rules of DoJ regulations against disclosing certain info — there is still such a thing as attorney-client privilege in this country too.”

    Are you saying that gonzo has an attorney-cleint privilege with bush or the country? he has not att-client privilege with bush. that is part of the problem, he still thinks he’s george’s real estate att.


  79. KEFA461 says:

    Question….if the Prez knew nothing about the firings the Lawyers should still be on the job, right?


  80. Jake says:

    KEFA461:

    The President did not know about the Dubai ports deal either, until it hit the news. I hate to break this to you, but the U.S. government is the largest employer in America — Wal*Mart is a distant 2nd with 1.1 million — unless your name was Jimmy Carter, MOST decisions made in the Executive branch never get to the Presidential level. Next question?


  81. bob (not the hacker) says:

    81:

    jake, what is your proof that mr bush didn’t know about the Dubai portst deal until it hit the news? You’re taking his word? mr “iraq has wmd” mr “mission accomplished” mr this tax cut will go overwheliming to the middle class? that guy? If you really are 75 you might want to get checked out for alzhemiers.


  82. Jake says:

    Anyone else (NOT on the “Ignore List” for not answering my questions even though I answered all of their questions and/or resorting to personal attacks against me when I remain civil towards them)?


  83. TripMaster Monkey says:

    No one’s buying it, Shakey.

    Your credibility account is overdrawn.


  84. veritas says:

    Grassroots movements in many states moving toward Impeaching George W. Bush. The “impeachment express” is gathering steam and soon there will be enough pressure via each state that the Congress will no longer find impeachment “an option” but, instead, will find it to be a mandate of the american people and a “congressional responsibility.


  85. veritas says:

    I believe the campaign is called “The Enemy Within: Bush/Cheney Cabal”.


  86. Jake says:

    No skin off my nose — if anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) posts a question from above, let me know on a newer thread and I will come back here and answer as soon as possible — as I always do if you return the same Common Courtesy.


  87. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Jake sez:

    No skin off my nose

    Of course not…for there to be ’skin off your nose’, you’d have to have some credibility to begin with.

    (P.S.: What happened to ignoring me, sport? Sheesh, you’re bad at this… ^_^ )


  88. firehead says:

    I dare ANY of you to refute the points I made about the Bush presidency.

    Instead, you attack me because you can’t refut the points I made.


  89. Hector Garcia says:

    Jake are you stupid? You need to use ignore lists while debating politics?


  90. CONservative says:

    I dare ANY of you to refute the points I made about the Bush presidency.

    Instead, you attack me because you can’t refut the points I made.

    Comment by firehead

    No, we’re too busy laughing our @$$es off that your cranial rectumitis is THAT bad! May I recommend a surgical procedure? Or perhaps the jaws of life? Your ignorance is so pervasive your complete and utter rubbish is not worth our time or frustration trying to get thru to someone who has their ears covered singing ‘la la la la la la la la’.


  91. big papa says:

    Does this mean the rule of law is now officially DEAD?

    …do We the People now have the right to IGNORE authority?

    …and if not…

    …why not…

    …the Preznit and his administration (of TRAITORS)…

    …serve at the pleasure of the people…

    …Ever wonder WHY we NEVER see polls taken on how much of the country…

    …would like to see:

    IMPEACHMENT
    INCARCERATION
    and IMPOVERISHMENT

    …for Bushiva, L’il Dick et al?

    Because the TREASONOUS “terrorist”, right wing propagandist MSM…

    …creates our reality…


  92. ForTruth says:

    White House still supporting Gonzales

    The White House has become a giant jock strap.


  93. Raymond Funamoto says:

    THIS IS JUST A SHOW PUT ON TO DELUDE AND CONCEAL THE TRUE MOTIVES OF Bushland Uber Allies AGAINST THE EYES OF WATCHING AMERICA—-CHIMPya HAS NOT YET FOUND Gonzo’s REPLACEMENT SO THAT IS WHY HE IS “STANDING BY HIS BUTT-BOY”!!!!! NO OTHER REASON BUT THAT IS WHAT SHOWS WHAT HE CALLS “STEADFASTNESS” BUT WHICH IS IN FACT “NARCISSISTIC SOCIOPATHIC, SELFISH AND WILLFUL CRY-BABY STUBBORNESS, OBFUSCATION AND PREVARICATION DESIGNED TO FOOL THE PUBLIC” IN THE BEST FAT-F*CK Rove MANNER!!!!!


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