“Two Americans, a contractor and a soldier, were killed in a rocket attack on the heavily guarded Green Zone on Tuesday, according to statements from the U.S. Embassy and the military. Five other people were wounded, one contractor who was seriously hurt and three with slight wounds. A second soldier also was wounded in the attack, but the military did not give a condition.”
The green zone is for loading and unloading only….
tempora mutantur et nos mutamur en illis
March 27th, 2007 at 7:54 pmWe can’t pacify Iraq, a country the size of California.
We can’t pacify Baghdad, a city the size of Los Angeles.
We can’t even pacify the Green Zone, an area the size of Chichen Itza.
Tell me how well the “surge” is working again….
…I love it when you lie to me.
March 27th, 2007 at 7:55 pmMore than 2 people were killed in Los Angeles today.
March 27th, 2007 at 7:56 pmWho was saying “…but how many US people were killed?”
Happy now?
March 27th, 2007 at 7:56 pmSo Walnuts, ya wanna go take a stroll…?
tempora mutantur et nos mutamur en illis
March 27th, 2007 at 7:57 pmIt is their country. They have no plans to go anywhere.
Do unto others…
What would WE do if we were the others?
The same thing.
Either start genocide or get out…. they have no plans to go anywhere… this is exactly what the vietnamese have said several years after the vietnam war was over. They would never give in. It was their home and no matter how many were killed there was no other option.
IF the Iraqis would find some unnatural kindness and allowed America to stay… AND their sunni-shiite neighbors to be forgiven… AND overlook their future plans…. AND decide to share the oil…. AND decide to change their entire system over to a unknown system called democracy… then maybe MAYBE things would be all happy and all will be forgiven and we can get along… Short of Jesus coming back and waving his hands across the middle east or something…. what are the chances of that happening? Seriously. Analytically. What is the %?
March 27th, 2007 at 7:58 pmMore than 2 people were killed in Los Angeles today.
Comment by Jake
F*cker, don’t minimize this.
March 27th, 2007 at 7:59 pmBob (you’re not the hacker, right?):
I am never “happy” at the loss of innocent life — every major war our country has been in has had collateral damage — it’s a fact of life.
March 27th, 2007 at 7:59 pmObviously, those two didn’t get McCain’s memo.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:00 pmJake, this isn’t a war; it’s an occupation.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:01 pmJake sez:
So…you’re comparing the city of Los Angeles to the Green Zone? This is why we question your reading comprehension, Jake.
Tell me, how many people were killed today in Chichen Itza? And in Baghdad?
March 27th, 2007 at 8:03 pmWhizz Bang:
There are no “magic words” needed for an official declaration of war — see AUMF.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:04 pmJale sez:
Shorter Jake: “Acceptable losses. Move along.”
March 27th, 2007 at 8:04 pmJohn McCain:
“Two Americans, a contractor and a soldier, were killed in a rocket attack on the heavily guarded Green Zone on Tuesday, according to statements from the U.S. Embassy and the military.
Did McCain forget to tell the U.S. Embassy and military in Iraq that this is three month old news?
March 27th, 2007 at 8:04 pmHey TripMaster, so that would be an area smaller than Tikal, but much larger than Yaxitlan?
tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis
March 27th, 2007 at 8:05 pm… are the soldiers still “guarding” the contractors?
March 27th, 2007 at 8:06 pm… still making a tenth of the money?
… curious…
Jake = unpaid troll
March 27th, 2007 at 8:06 pmFor the record, I was not the one who brought up Los Angeles.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:07 pmJake was for bringing up Los Angeles before he was against it. Flip-flopper.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:09 pmIn case anyone brings up a purported “rape joke” of mine, Gerald Gibson Jr . made the comment on that thread that Iraq was being “raped” — I guess that’s what’s going to be argued here too, but I was responding to that analogy, not making a joke about real rape — if anyone else (NOT on the “Ignore List†for personal attacks and/or refusing to answer my questions) has a question whether my response was about real rape, please let me know — thanks.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:13 pmWell, this has been expected. This is at least the third rocket attempt on the green zone in nearly that many days. It was only a matter of time until they could get the trajectory worked out.
Lebanon barracks anyone?
I don’t think helicopters over the embassy will cut it this time.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:15 pmIt is their country. They have no plans to go anywhere.
Do unto others…
What would WE do if we were the others?
The same thing.
Either start genocide or get out…. they have no plans to go anywhere… this is exactly what the vietnamese have said several years after the vietnam war was over. They would never give in. It was their home and no matter how many were killed there was no other option.
IF the Iraqis would find some unnatural kindness and allowed America to stay… AND their sunni-shiite neighbors to be forgiven… AND overlook their future plans…. AND decide to share the oil…. AND decide to change their entire system over to a unknown system called democracy… then maybe MAYBE things would be all happy and all will be forgiven and we can get along… Short of Jesus coming back and waving his hands across the middle east or something…. what are the chances of that happening? Seriously. Analytically.
What is the %?
March 27th, 2007 at 8:16 pmO.M.G. — the Central Scrutinizer has arrived.
How I wish we still had Zappa around these days.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:18 pmSMALL WONDER THAT U.N. Secretary-General Ban DUCKED FOR COVER BEHIND THE PODIUM WHEN al-Malki DIDN’T EVEN FLINCH OR BAT AN EYELASH—-IT’S DAMNED DANGEROUS, EVEN IN THE GREEN ZONE, THOUGH LIE-berman, McPAIN, CHIMPya, FRANKENCheney, FAT-F*CK Rove, CONDOM-Lesser Rice and OTHER CREEPS of Bushland Uber Allies WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE OTHERWISE, THOSE LYING CROOKS!!!!!
March 27th, 2007 at 8:25 pmFor the record, I was not the one who brought up Los Angeles.
Comment by Jake
Moron.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:29 pmJake, the honeymoon is over, you officially suck.
The “dead in LA” comment is worse than irrelevant, it is an attempt to trivialize an enormous crisis – Bush chose to create this conflict, and he chose the circumstances for those men to die, and he convinced us to let him by lying to the American people, and having his staff lie to Congress and the United Nations.
He chose to have Americans killed, for no discernable purpose.
And you choose to defend this choice, which makes you an apologist for a murderer. The Chinese have a hell just for you and your kind: It’s called the Chamber of Tongue-Ripping.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:29 pmSomeone call McCain — he’s lucky he wasn’t out strolling the neighborhood.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:30 pmCentral Scrutinizer sez:
Much smaller than Tikal, but I’ll have to take you word regarding Yaxitlan.
Quomodo? Fit semper tempore peior homo.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:30 pmI don’t even want to think of how many more people will die or become severely wounded before we get out of there.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:32 pmBush needs to answer the Viet Nam question of how do you ask someone to be the last man to die for a mistaken war?
Jake sez:
No, Shakey…you were the one who clumsily tried to twist the reference to your own mendacious ends.
You tried to compare the Green Zone to L.A.. I could go on and on here, but Zooey summed it up admirably in post #22.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:33 pmI don’t think helicopters over the embassy will cut it this time.
Comment by stonehinge
You mean due to the landing area that the new embassy has?
March 27th, 2007 at 8:35 pmBush KNEW how to get out of Viet Nam.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:40 pmHij ake,
glad you’re back to talking to me, even if you’re pretending you’re not. #4 Bob is not me, although he beat me to the same comment, (keep it up “Bob” and you’ll wind up on MY list :))
Jake: take responsibilty for your words and thoughts. you expressed a lack of concern about the “smelly brown” people who died in that blast. Your buddy Rodan may be deranged, demented, and dumb, but at least he owns his ignorance.
Collateral damage is what mcvie called the children in the child care center in OK, was that acceptable? How can there be collateral damage in a war of choice, an illegal war?
March 27th, 2007 at 8:41 pmJake,
44,000 people a year die in car accidents in the US. Do we see any reporting on that? Why not? Because its a choice we have made.
We didn’t chose to go to Iraq and die.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:47 pmRegarding Jake’s delirium tremors:
Isn’t this newfound GOP rationale precious: people that aren’t in Iraq die; therefore, it’s perfectly acceptable for people (whether Iragi, or American, or whatever) to be murdered in Iraq.
That squares perfectly with at least one of the Testaments…doesn’t it?
The GOP Jesus says, “Just kill everybody; it’s all good.”
March 27th, 2007 at 8:50 pmContractors are unlawful combatants. In other words, who cares?
March 27th, 2007 at 8:50 pmSomeone said you can’t walk up on ChichenIza anymore. If so, glad I got to go a couple years ago. It’s pretty damn cool, and humid as hell.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:54 pmYou mean due to the landing area that the new embassy has?
Hiya Juan. Been missing you.
No, it’s not a question of landing area. My point is that it’s one hell of a long way from Baghdad to the Gulf. It will take a huge movement over land to make an exit and the logistics are horribly complicated by the presence of so many civilians. I’m afraid that Bush has already foolishly squandered any chance of making a graceful exit.
March 27th, 2007 at 8:55 pmTripmaster sez: Much smaller than Tikal, but I’ll have to take you word regarding Yaxitlan.
Oooops, that should’ve read YAXCHILÃN! My bad.
tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis
March 27th, 2007 at 8:58 pmFor Truth,
As far as I know, you can still climb up “el castillo”, the pyramid of Kukulkan at Chichen Itzá.
tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis
March 27th, 2007 at 9:09 pmthe collapse literally incremental disintegration of a presidency. I shiver just thinking of Bush as my leader.
March 27th, 2007 at 9:23 pmMore than 2 people were killed in Los Angeles today.
Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Jake, you are starting to sound morally bankrupt here.
March 27th, 2007 at 9:40 pm“Starting”?! Seriously though, I have to get going and I won’t be here tomorrow, so you boys and girls play nice : )
March 27th, 2007 at 9:49 pmbe careful jake, we may get used to the sound of silence, sweet silence.
March 27th, 2007 at 9:55 pmGod I hope #40 wasn’t Fake Jake.
He apparently admits to being morally bankrupt.
March 27th, 2007 at 9:56 pmHorrible news for the soldier and his family. As for the mercenary…well I hope that paycheck was worth it.
Someone should tell McCain that that area is not safe to take a stroll in.
March 27th, 2007 at 9:59 pm“Starting�! Seriously though, I have to get going and I won’t be here tomorrow, so you boys and girls play nice : )
Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Wow, a day without watching you Jake yourself off to your own st*pidity. What *will* we all do with ourselves? You worthless piece of sh*t.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:04 pmYo Jakers, march yer ass over to the families of both servicemen or womed killed today and ask them why their sons or daughters weren’t in LA.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:12 pmAsswhole.
I’m afraid that Bush has already foolishly squandered any chance of making a graceful exit.
Comment by stonehinge
Same here. I read your posts with an awe face. You seem to be really out of this trollsh*t thing, pretty calm and really insightful.
I wasnt trying to rebutt you or your point. I was just pointing the fact of the new super fortress embassy in Iraq. ;)
March 27th, 2007 at 11:10 pmJuan, I’m signing out early tonite. Thanks for the comments, ‘mano…and don’t stay gone so long.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:26 pmJake, you are starting to sound morally bankrupt here.
Comment by VerbalKint — March 27, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
“Starting”?
Methinks he crossed that line a while ago -and has kept walking, looking for the next Bush misdeed to muddle and defend.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:29 pmI thought that was the street that McCain said he could walk down.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:47 pmSay, Lurkers. How does Jake rub you now?
March 28th, 2007 at 1:22 am#50 The fictitious lurkers like being rubbed by Jake, didn’t you know that?
March 28th, 2007 at 1:30 amMore than 2 people were killed in Los Angeles today.
Joke… uhm I mean Jake.. tell me.. how much heavy weaponry, fortifications, and armor was required to keep many many more people from dying in Los Angeles today?
How many IED’s went off in LA today? How many snipers? How many bodies were dumped?
And whats the population/acreage of green zone vs LA ?
you remind me of this idiot trying to insist that Iraq was as safe as Brazil because the murder rates were similar… never mind Brazil has about 10 times the population of Iraq…
March 28th, 2007 at 8:17 amAnd, how many USA people died from a rocket attack outside of the USA or Iraq?
Waiting for the answer…
Oh, it’s zero the number?
March 28th, 2007 at 9:31 amAnd last week, in what may be the most definitive news clip ever ( http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-iraq0322,0,2271911.story) that proves the folly of the Iraq invasion, the Sec. Gen. of the UN ducked for cover as an explosion goes off near by.
Tell us again trolls how well the “surge” is working when were now getting attacked on a regular basis in what is suppose to be our most secure place to be?
And the average death toll for troops is up to 3.1, up from 2.3 a year ago, I guess the “surge” is working if you’re into the death of our troops.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:34 am