Comments on: Our $9 billion/year missile defense system, http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:46:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: David http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2720150 David Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:44:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2720150 WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Bill Richardson said the United States needs to do more to prevent a "nuclear 9-11," a threat that he argues has been neglected because the Bush administration has been consumed with Iraq. The New Mexico governor said the United States must lead an effort to secure nuclear materials in Russia and dangerous areas of the world so they can't get into terrorists' hands. <strong>"If al-Qaida obtained nuclear weapons, they would not hesitate to use them with the same ruthlessness that allowed them to fly airplanes filled with people into buildings,"</strong> he said in a speech to the Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University. "It took a Manhattan project to create the bomb," Richardson said. "We need a new Manhattan project to stop the bomb—a comprehensive program to secure all nuclear weapons and all weapons-usable material, worldwide." WASHINGTON (AP) – Democratic presidential candidate Bill Richardson said the United States needs to do more to prevent a “nuclear 9-11,” a threat that he argues has been neglected because the Bush administration has been consumed with Iraq.

The New Mexico governor said the United States must lead an effort to secure nuclear materials in Russia and dangerous areas of the world so they can’t get into terrorists’ hands. “If al-Qaida obtained nuclear weapons, they would not hesitate to use them with the same ruthlessness that allowed them to fly airplanes filled with people into buildings,” he said in a speech to the Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.

“It took a Manhattan project to create the bomb,” Richardson said. “We need a new Manhattan project to stop the bomb—a comprehensive program to secure all nuclear weapons and all weapons-usable material, worldwide.”

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2687715 tom baker Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:33:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2687715 wow - sure are a lot of steely-eyed warrior-patriots here to defend the horrific waste of money their pals in DC make of our tax $. wow – sure are a lot of steely-eyed warrior-patriots here to defend the horrific waste of money their pals in DC make of our tax $.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2687442 ForTruth Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:28:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2687442 I don't understand why they don't just have Chuck Norris watch for missles, he could just slap em' down. That would be cheaper. I don’t understand why they don’t just have Chuck Norris watch for missles, he could just slap em’ down. That would be cheaper.

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2686244 Raymond Funamoto Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:07:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2686244 "LISTEN TO THE RHYTHM OF THE FALLING RAIN TELLING CHIMPya JUST WHAT A FOOL HE'S BEEN!!!!! HE WISHES IT WOULD LET HIM GO AND CRY AGAIN AND LET HIM BE ALONE AGAIN!!!!!" SHIT-er SHAT-er SHIT-er SHAT-er SHIT-er SHAT-er SHIT-er HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!!! HAH! “LISTEN TO THE RHYTHM OF THE FALLING RAIN
TELLING CHIMPya JUST WHAT A FOOL HE’S BEEN!!!!!
HE WISHES IT WOULD LET HIM GO AND CRY AGAIN
AND LET HIM BE ALONE AGAIN!!!!!”

SHIT-er SHAT-er SHIT-er SHAT-er SHIT-er SHAT-er SHIT-er

HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!!! HAH!

]]> By: Namtillaku http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2679556 Namtillaku Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:45:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2679556 Jake said; The Manhattan Project cost nearly $2 billion ($20 billion in 2004 dollars based on CPI). This is worth the cost as well. Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 11:27 am If you are part of the military industrial complex it is. Doesn't matter if it works or not, as long as they get their pockets lined with more cash. Jake said;

The Manhattan Project cost nearly $2 billion ($20 billion in 2004 dollars based on CPI). This is worth the cost as well.

Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 11:27 am

If you are part of the military industrial complex it is. Doesn’t matter if it works or not, as long as they get their pockets lined with more cash.

]]> By: margaret http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2677805 margaret Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:04:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2677805 Evil Spaniard you are so right!! Can you imagine?! The crazy people running things now think that Iran detaining 15 British troops is a good enough reason to start dropping nuclear bombs on Iran but we don't even hear anything on the news when we target someone else's satellite?! Can you imagine if Iran was buzzing our borders right now "flying simulated attack maneuvers" like we're doing off the coast of Iran? We're sure good at making friends! "Missile defense" seems like a false sense of security and a huge waste of money to me. It sure wouldn't have helped on 9-11 and it won't help us now. Sane foreign policy could accomplish far more progress towards a peaceful world. I saw a documentary on U.S. veterans of the Iraq war the other night and one vet had a bumber sticker on his wall that read: "WE ARE NOT SAFER - OCCUPATION BREEDS HATE" Evil Spaniard you are so right!! Can you imagine?!

The crazy people running things now think that Iran detaining 15 British troops is a good enough reason to start dropping nuclear bombs on Iran but we don’t even hear anything on the news when we target someone else’s satellite?!

Can you imagine if Iran was buzzing our borders right now “flying simulated attack maneuvers” like we’re doing off the coast of Iran? We’re sure good at making friends!

“Missile defense” seems like a false sense of security and a huge waste of money to me. It sure wouldn’t have helped on 9-11 and it won’t help us now. Sane foreign policy could accomplish far more progress towards a peaceful world.

I saw a documentary on U.S. veterans of the Iraq war the other night and one vet had a bumber sticker on his wall that read:

“WE ARE NOT SAFER – OCCUPATION BREEDS HATE”

]]> By: Gerald Gibson Jr http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2677302 Gerald Gibson Jr Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:50:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2677302 <em>Making friends all around the globe. I wonder what could have happened if the case was the other way around, Europe attacking an American communications satellite in such way. Comment by Evil Spaniard</em> Did the entire country, including the military, get dumber in 2000? Making friends all around the globe. I wonder what could have happened if the case was the other way around, Europe attacking an American communications satellite in such way.

Comment by Evil Spaniard

Did the entire country, including the military, get dumber in 2000?

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2677120 Evil Spaniard Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:46:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2677120 <em>#12 a related oops: <strong>US Army attacked European satellite</strong> “The major Swiss newspaper Tagesanzeiger reported Saturday, between the 23rd and 24th of January the Eutelsat Hot Bird 8 satellite was disrupted by the US Army using very powerful radio interference signals from the ground to block all transmissions. The Swiss news organisation SDA and also the French AFP that send their news wire to media outlets over the satellite, plus a number of TV and radio stations where dead for 24 hours. They could not supply their news service to newspapers anymore. The aim of the US Army was to stop the Iraqi al-Zawraa TV channel from broadcasting insurgency videos showing attacks against US forces. But it was a mistaken identity and they targeted the wrong satellite. <strong>The US Army got the wrong channel and actually hit the similar sounding Iraqi al-Zahra TV channel.</strong> The one they wanted to get, al-Zawraa, never stopped broadcasting because it uses the Arabsat satellite. This action shows, the US military has the means to shutdown every satellite they want.” Comment by . — March 27, 2007 @ 12:09 pm</em> Making friends all around the globe. I wonder what could have happened if the case was the other way around, Europe attacking an American communications satellite in such way. #12 a related oops:

US Army attacked European satellite

“The major Swiss newspaper Tagesanzeiger reported Saturday, between the 23rd and 24th of January the Eutelsat Hot Bird 8 satellite was disrupted by the US Army using very powerful radio interference signals from the ground to block all transmissions. The Swiss news organisation SDA and also the French AFP that send their news wire to media outlets over the satellite, plus a number of TV and radio stations where dead for 24 hours. They could not supply their news service to newspapers anymore. The aim of the US Army was to stop the Iraqi al-Zawraa TV channel from broadcasting insurgency videos showing attacks against US forces. But it was a mistaken identity and they targeted the wrong satellite. The US Army got the wrong channel and actually hit the similar sounding Iraqi al-Zahra TV channel. The one they wanted to get, al-Zawraa, never stopped broadcasting because it uses the Arabsat satellite. This action shows, the US military has the means to shutdown every satellite they want.”

Comment by . — March 27, 2007 @ 12:09 pm

Making friends all around the globe. I wonder what could have happened if the case was the other way around, Europe attacking an American communications satellite in such way.

]]> By: Gerald Gibson Jr http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2676988 Gerald Gibson Jr Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:43:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2676988 <em>Comment by Lewis </em> Terrorism cant destroy humanity. Nukes can. Did you read where Putin said the West was behind the school terrorism in Russia? Whether it is true or not doesnt matter... if Russia thinks so and they have enough nukes to kill us all then I would feel better knowing we can shoot them all down. So when is oversite of this program going to begin? They have been given enough money already... and it is not like they are inventing all new science... this should be done by now. Comment by Lewis

Terrorism cant destroy humanity. Nukes can.

Did you read where Putin said the West was behind the school terrorism in Russia? Whether it is true or not doesnt matter… if Russia thinks so and they have enough nukes to kill us all then I would feel better knowing we can shoot them all down.

So when is oversite of this program going to begin? They have been given enough money already… and it is not like they are inventing all new science… this should be done by now.

]]> By: Dr. Matt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2676975 Dr. Matt Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:43:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2676975 Car insurance, homeowners’ insurance, and life insurance are real tangible things that work and are CHEAP,.....unlike this utter waste of tax-payer's dollars. Why do you reich-wingers love spending American money on useless adventures? You filth really must be anti-American to be so fiscally perverted. Car insurance, homeowners’ insurance, and life insurance are real tangible things that work and are CHEAP,…..unlike this utter waste of tax-payer’s dollars. Why do you reich-wingers love spending American money on useless adventures? You filth really must be anti-American to be so fiscally perverted.

]]> By: Dr. Matt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2676798 Dr. Matt Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:40:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2676798 Has Jake blamed Clinton yet? Has Jake blamed Clinton yet?

]]> By: mparker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2675491 mparker Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:13:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2675491 It doesn't matter that the rain was heavy or not. The system was tested under better conditions then are possible in real life. It failed under those conditions. It was implemented anyway by Bush and as it was implemented and the money was being spent for this mess Russia and china were able to develop and successfully test missiles that can defeat our system even working at 100%. It was been obsolete before it existed. It doesn’t matter that the rain was heavy or not. The system was tested under better conditions then are possible in real life. It failed under those conditions. It was implemented anyway by Bush and as it was implemented and the money was being spent for this mess Russia and china were able to develop and successfully test missiles that can defeat our system even working at 100%.

It was been obsolete before it existed.

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2674564 tom baker Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:50:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2674564 I should've included a snark flag on post #17....i was still snarking Dale at that point. I should’ve included a snark flag on post #17….i was still snarking Dale at that point.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2674408 ForTruth Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:48:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2674408 "In particular, totally unprecedented rainfall created..." I'm thinking of climate change. “In particular, totally unprecedented rainfall created…”

I’m thinking of climate change.

]]> By: Lewis http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2674045 Lewis Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:40:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2674045 Why spend so much money on building a defense system instead of working on areas that produce terrorists and militants? We could by eliminating world poverty and hunger, reduce the number of those who feel impoverished because of our economic policies and thereby reduce the number of those who are pissed about it. Murder, rape, disease, terrorism and genocide breed out of instability because of lack of basic human needs. Food and clean water. Apparently we, as Americans, have enough money to dump into a fruitless war effort. We have enough money to make a difference and we obviously have enough people who feel strongly about freedom. It is true freedom isn't free, but it doesn't have to be purchased with the lives of civilians and young soldiers. Why spend so much money on building a defense system instead of working on areas that produce terrorists and militants? We could by eliminating world poverty and hunger, reduce the number of those who feel impoverished because of our economic policies and thereby reduce the number of those who are pissed about it. Murder, rape, disease, terrorism and genocide breed out of instability because of lack of basic human needs. Food and clean water. Apparently we, as Americans, have enough money to dump into a fruitless war effort. We have enough money to make a difference and we obviously have enough people who feel strongly about freedom. It is true freedom isn’t free, but it doesn’t have to be purchased with the lives of civilians and young soldiers.

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2673879 tom baker Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:37:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2673879 We really ought to be spending 20-30 billion annually on missile defense - this is what we deserve for chintzing out and going the "economical" route - you definitely get what you pay for with these systems, and everyone knows the good ones go for a lot more than 9Billion/year.....come on, people! We really ought to be spending 20-30 billion annually on missile defense – this is what we deserve for chintzing out and going the “economical” route – you definitely get what you pay for with these systems, and everyone knows the good ones go for a lot more than 9Billion/year…..come on, people!

]]> By: Rebel in CA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2673505 Rebel in CA Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:31:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2673505 <strong>How do you get Congress to appropriate money for torture centers in Romania, Bosnia etc? Tell them it is for missile defense</strong> How do you get Congress to appropriate money for torture centers in Romania, Bosnia etc?

Tell them it is for missile defense

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2673431 tom baker Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:28:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2673431 gee dale, your'e right - lets' piss all the rest of the money we don't have down a big black hole. I hope you're comfortable with making out your mortgage payment check to a Chinese Communist Bank in the not too distant future, 'cause that's where all the borrowing is going to get us, and a lot sooner than you think. "It's better to let the Chinese Communists own our asses outright, than to fight the muslim radicals here" - is <em>that</em> what I'm hearing?? gee dale, your’e right – lets’ piss all the rest of the money we don’t have down a big black hole. I hope you’re comfortable with making out your mortgage payment check to a Chinese Communist Bank in the not too distant future, ’cause that’s where all the borrowing is going to get us, and a lot sooner than you think.

“It’s better to let the Chinese Communists own our asses outright, than to fight the muslim radicals here” – is that what I’m hearing??

]]> By: And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2673288 And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:23:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2673288 And yet, Bush and his moronic State Department typically refuse to talk to those countries who are actively building nuclear weapons while he invades a country that constituted NO THREAT to the United States. And yet, Bush and his moronic State Department typically refuse to talk to those countries who are actively building nuclear weapons while he invades a country that constituted NO THREAT to the United States.

]]> By: Dale http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/comment-page-1/#comment-2672907 Dale Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:13:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/our-9-billion-missile-defense-system/#comment-2672907 #11, do you buy car insurance? Homeowners' insurance? Life insurance? Life insurance has saved you, what, 13... 14 times already? #11, do you buy car insurance? Homeowners’ insurance? Life insurance? Life insurance has saved you, what, 13… 14 times already?

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