Senate conservatives feeling “scandal fatigue.”
By on Mar 27th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
Senate conservatives feeling “scandal fatigue.”
Bad news for Gonzales:
Goodling’s announcement, some senior Republicans felt, strengthened the Democrats’ charge that the Justice Department had something to hide.
All of which added up to scandal fatigue inside the caucus, the senators said.
Specter’s appeal to the caucus [to downplay Goodling's announcement] received “a lot of head shaking, a lot of eye-rolling,” said one senator who attended and spoke on condition of anonymity because the session was private.
Asked Tuesday if Gonzales had lost their confidence, many Senate Republicans demurred.
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Mission Accomplished.
Wankers….
March 27th, 2007 at 10:17 pmfun:
Mcgrain v. Daugherty
A landmark decision of the Supreme Court, McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135, 47 S.Ct. 319, 71 L.Ed. 580 (1927), recognized the implicit power of either House of Congress to hold a witness in a congressional investigation in contempt for a refusal to honor its summons or to respond to its questions.
During the mid-1920s, there were numerous allegations that the Federal Department of Justice was being mismanaged by its administrator, Harry Daugherty, the attorney general of the United States. In response to the charges, the Senate passed a resolution that empowered an investigatory committee to hear evidence as to whether Daugherty failed to prosecute various violations of the antitrust laws. Mally S. Daugherty, who was a bank president as well as the brother of the attorney general, refused to respond to a subpoena that was issued by the committee on two occasions ordering him to appear and to bring designated bank ledgers. The president pro tempore of the Senate issued a warrant to his sergeant at arms that Mally Daugherty be taken into custody. [...]
http://www.answers.com/topic/mcgrain-v-daugherty
March 27th, 2007 at 10:20 pmSee – Specter has always been nothing but a Republican yes-man.
He talks tough, but always puts party over the USA.
Talk is cheap, Senator.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:23 pmThe Bad News Bears
March 27th, 2007 at 10:26 pmThe press and even the blogosphere have not focused sufficiently on the Republican talking point supposedly “explaining” Goodling’s decision not to testify. The White House, Goodling’s lawyer, Arlen Spector, and other Republicans have cited the hostile atmosphere in the hearing room, created by the Democrats’ prejudgement of this case, as a reason for Goodling to take the Fifth. This charge is silly on its face. It is also pernicious because it undermines the assumption that Congress has the right to scrutinize the Executive by calling on citizens to testify. The Bushies do not care how much damage they do to the structures of government.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:32 pmTony:
What if she faced criminal charges even she testified truthfully and did nothing wrong?
March 27th, 2007 at 10:37 pmWell then the GOP should send some heavy hitters over to tell jr. the jig is up asap.
It’s only going to get worse for the GOP. Stop the bleeding you treasonous bastards before your whole party get’s flushed down the toilet along with this administration.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:37 pmand considering the kind of ‘hostile environment’ those who testified during the Clinton admin faced, it’s a rather ironic explanation.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:38 pmAsked Tuesday if Gonzales had lost their confidence, many Senate Republicans demurred.
Message discipline…
…a right wing staple since…
…Joseph Goebbels…
March 27th, 2007 at 10:39 pmI blogged about this at it is my privilege to announce. The notion that Monica Goodling or anyone can avoid tesifying before Congress by claiming that someone can falsely accuse them of perjury for statements which are true has been repudiated by the courts. A notable example is the case against Susan McDougal who refused to testify in the Ken Starr-chamber investigation into the Whitewater non-scandal.
Visit the Schapira blog, What we know so far …
“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”
March 27th, 2007 at 10:41 pmWhat if she faced criminal charges even she testified truthfully and did nothing wrong?
If you face criminal charges, you’ve done something wrong. That’s … kinda how … that whole law thing works…
March 27th, 2007 at 10:44 pmWhat if she faced criminal charges even she testified truthfully and did nothing wrong?
Comment by Jake
If she did nothing wrong, then go and testify!
Not take the 5th, upon legal counsel.
Duh!
BTW:
March 27th, 2007 at 10:46 pmRape joker.
Big Mitch:
Ms. McDougal was granted IMMUNITY and still refused to testify — big difference, don’t you think?
DM:
Witches were condemned to death in Salem, MA once upon a time too ; )
March 27th, 2007 at 10:49 pmJake sez:
For the record, I’ve never made a rape joke either.
You sniveling little piece of dog sh!t!
You’re actually going to sit there and deny typing these words?
Don’t worry, Gerald Gibson Jr ., the “rapist†will be done no later than January 20, 2009. Just lay back and enjoy.
Comment by Jake — March 18, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
………………….
Care to admit your sins, Jake?
March 27th, 2007 at 10:50 pmAnd, no, I’m not “joking” about witch-icide — I’m joking about false charges — anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” can ask me if they can’t tell the difference.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:52 pmHey, rape joker,
They did not have the right to counsel, and hearsay was evidence back then.
It was the 1600’s, for crissake!
You have to go back over 300 years for that lame-ass arguement?
Sad
March 27th, 2007 at 10:54 pmWitches were condemned to death in Salem, MA once upon a time too ; )
Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
1) This is not the 17th century 2) Goodling is not facing a trial for witchcraft 3) your blather would imply that all witnesses should avoid testifying now for a wrong committed over 300 years ago.
Don’t you ever get tired of posting idiotic, nonsensical comments?
March 27th, 2007 at 10:57 pmF* the list!
Be a man and answer people.
How cowardly to hide behind “a list”.
Have some gonads.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:58 pm#12 I like to follow through on discussions, but you make it almost impossible… stick to the subject or take a hike.
Topic: What does Gonzales have to hide?
March 27th, 2007 at 10:59 pmGoing back 2000 years, Jesus exercised his right to remain silent in the face of false charges too . . .
March 27th, 2007 at 10:59 pmConservative scandal fatigue is another unintended consequence of Karl Rove’s “permanent Republican majority.”
March 27th, 2007 at 10:59 pmGoodling’s announcement, some senior Republicans felt, strengthened the Democrats’ charge that the Justice Department had something to hide.
Gee, do ya think so?
See – Specter has always been nothing but a Republican yes-man.
He talks tough, but always puts party over the USA.
John McCain too. I should know, I live in AZ…at least he’s not Jon Kyl, but that ain’t sayin much.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:59 pmQuoting James Madison via Digby via The Editors:
And there you have it.
And with that, it should be clear to even the dimmest of partisan hacks that this practice of dumping qualified public servants for partisan gain was seen as impeachable from the start.
ITMFA
March 27th, 2007 at 10:59 pmDon’t forget Stanley “Tookie” Williams and all those innocents wrongly accused of murder! Keep in mind this all this started because DM insisted: “If you face criminal charges, you’ve done something wrong. That’s … kinda how … that whole law thing works…”
Good night, all.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:02 pmKick ass, trueblue!
March 27th, 2007 at 11:02 pmstonehinge:
Madison also wanted a Chief Executive closer in powers to a King — you aren’t quoting that part, are you?
March 27th, 2007 at 11:04 pmsenate repubs acknowledging reality; that’s refreshing.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:04 pmFor f*ck’s ake, just go Jake.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:05 pmYou’ve been saying goodnight for an hour.
Really, Zooey?
*takes bow*
But he decided to leave.
What a coward.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:08 pmTookie Williams – cofounder of the gang the Crips!
Oh yeah. He’s pure as the driven snow.
And he had repented at the time of his death, so you wanting to spare him would make you a LIBERAL!
March 27th, 2007 at 11:13 pmBut he decided to leave.
What a coward.
Comment by trueblue
It was time for that ass to go — you still kicked ass. :D
March 27th, 2007 at 11:13 pmWow. I feel so empowered.
I learned from the best, that’s for sure.
:)
March 27th, 2007 at 11:16 pmNo shit, trueblue is kicking some ass.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:18 pmWow. I feel so empowered.
I learned from the best, that’s for sure.
Comment by trueblue
Juan is good, I agree. :)
March 27th, 2007 at 11:20 pmEarth to troll:
1) Goodling is not facing a criminal investigation, she is being called to testify as a witness, 2) the right to remain silent didn’t exist in Jesus’ times. As a matter of fact, in medieval times torture was frequently used to extract a confession of guilt, and 3) after carrying water for this administration, you want us to believe you don’t dream of a president with king-like powers? Puh-lee-ze.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:21 pmNo shit, trueblue is kicking some ass.
Comment by ForTruth
So proud of our true.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:22 pm**sniff**
really?
*blushing*
“I’d like to thank my mentors @ TP….”
March 27th, 2007 at 11:22 pmI do become amazed at how tireless some of the “Jakes” can be. Jeezus.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:25 pmJuan is good, I agree. :)
Comment by Zooey
Really?
Do tell………….
OK. I guess I am in a funny mood tonight, because I just had to pick that one up and run with it……
Please don’t hate me, Zooey…..
:)))))
March 27th, 2007 at 11:25 pmYep, I knew our true when she used to giggle. I taught her myself to use the f-word with feeling. She’s come so far, in such a short time.
Here’s the George W. Bush Pretzel of Freedom….
March 27th, 2007 at 11:26 pmSo, For Truth,
I didn’t know you were in the mental health field.
Tough job, but you maintain a great sense of humor and perspective. Good for you.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:29 pmThe GOP Bush majority is going to go down in history, and deservedly so, as the “do nothing” congress that enabled, aided, abetted and protected George W. Bush, the worst and most corrupt and destructive president in American history. The best thing Republicans could do for the future of their party is impeach George W. Bush as quickly as possible. Otherwise, they will forever be associated with his legacy of dishonesty, failure, malfeasance, cover-up and humiliation. They shouldn’t allow the Democrats to clean their political house and throw out the trash for them. They should do it themselves.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:32 pmPlease don’t hate me, Zooey…..
:)))))
Comment by trueblue
Never. :)
You know Juan is my sweetie.
I’m cruising along on a nice White Zinfandel myself…..
March 27th, 2007 at 11:32 pmYep, I knew our true when she used to giggle. I taught her myself to use the f-word with feeling. She’s come so far, in such a short time.
Here’s the George W. Bush Pretzel of Freedom….
Comment by Zooey
I still have trouble with swearing online, Zooey!
It’s like it’s bad form or something. (Damn Catholic upbringing!)
You might not feel the same way when you read # 38…
March 27th, 2007 at 11:32 pmGoing back 2000 years, Jesus exercised his right to remain silent in the face of false charges too . . .
So, he took the 5th so as not to incriminate himself? What are you talking about? That was so stupid.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:34 pmI agree with everybody else. No prisoners trueblue!! :)
March 27th, 2007 at 11:34 pmWow, osage.
Well said.
I second that.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:35 pm“Senate conservatives feeling ’scandal fatigue.’”
The Dems have been in charge for how many minutes, and the Republicons are already feeling “fatigued?” They’re friggin’ kidding, right?
“Asked Tuesday if Gonzales had lost their confidence, many Senate Republicans demurred.”
March 27th, 2007 at 11:40 pmHow pathetic. They are simply incapable of coming out and admitting the truth, admitting Gonzo is Loser City.
Zooey, For Truth, JPark
OK.
Now I’m getting really embarrassed.
I didn’t do anything.
You guys are sweet.
(I wish I knew how to do one of those faces with a tear, because it would show that you have touched me.)
March 27th, 2007 at 11:41 pmComment by trueblue — March 27, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
Splendid job of scaring off Jake tonight.
We all owe you one.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:42 pm(I wish I knew how to do one of those faces with a tear, because it would show that you have touched me.)
Comment by trueblue
Seriously, I’m gonna have to come out there and kick your ass. :D
(I swear, I never touched her — never.)
March 27th, 2007 at 11:45 pmSplendid job of scaring off Jake tonight.
We all owe you one.
Comment by shane
See, true? See…?
March 27th, 2007 at 11:46 pmSeriously, I’m gonna have to come out there and kick your ass. :D
(I swear, I never touched her — never.)
Comment by Zooey
Yes, ma’am… Mistress Zooey….
I’ll get the……
Shane,
I don’t know if I can take another nice post.
I’ll seriously feeling funny here.
Thanks. Now can we do something else?
(I mean that in the nicest way.)
March 27th, 2007 at 11:53 pmheh, niters good peeps
March 27th, 2007 at 11:55 pm#48 I am a jerk. When I dress a troll down it is expected and it probably doesn’t have that much effect but you, as the sweet person you are, are a whole lot more effective when you go off.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:57 pmNight Stone.
March 27th, 2007 at 11:57 pmShane,
I don’t know if I can take another nice post.
I’ll seriously feeling funny here.
Thanks. Now can we do something else?
(I mean that in the nicest way.)
Comment by trueblue — March 27, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Don’t get too cozy. It’s only a matter of time until Jake or his replacement comes out swinging.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:01 amBut since you have 1 troll credit you get to take a pass on one of them. I’d let howsad go. Who’s your least favorite? Zooey Know’s Best – who’s your’s Z? Jake’s persistance is pretty annoying though.
JPark,
You have never been a jerk, and I refuse any arguement to the contrary.
You have my email, I believe. And I yours.
We will come to an understanding, I hope, because you are a terrific person.
And I will “go off” on anything less than that. :)
March 28th, 2007 at 12:05 amJPark, I’m beginning to think this Jake sees himself as a christ figure, just look at the abuse he takes on this site. If that’s the case, he may never go away…a permanent fixture on TP. That thought is just downright revolting. We may have to rethink this business.
OK, niters for sure this time.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:05 amBush is Neidermeyer from Animal House.
Specter is Greg Marmalarde.
Condi is Buffy.
Cheney is Dean Wormer.
-GSD
March 28th, 2007 at 12:07 amAlberto Jesus Gonzales…It kinda works though.
-GSD
March 28th, 2007 at 12:08 am#57 Thanks trueblue. :) I will amend that. I am confrontational. You usually aren’t so it really has an effect when you are.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:11 am#58 Ahh, the return of the Christian martyr. It was only a matter of time before they were jealous enough of the Muslims.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:12 amMission Accomplished.
Wankers….
Comment by Zooey
This is just the shot across the bow.
More to come. Cheney will make sure that Bush gets impeached by the end of the year.
Just you wait and see.
And ask yourself this question…
Will Cheney allow the unprecedented expansion of Executive power, that he has been masterminding for 30 some years, to fall into the hands of a Democratic President?
Something to think about.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:19 amHow about “Honest”, JPark.
I like that better.
“Truthful”
“Passionate”
“Involved”
Not confrontational – that’s a negative.
Get it?
March 28th, 2007 at 12:21 am:)
#64 LOL, you should kick Carville out. You would be much better at running a campaign than the current batch.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:24 amI see things are well in hand here.
I’m hittin’ the bars….
Tooooodles!
March 28th, 2007 at 12:30 amThanks.
But I was trying to have you see yourself differently.
It’s 12:30 here – about 2-3 hours past my usual bedtime.
I’ve gotta go, but I had a great time tonight.
Goodnight, all.
Sweet dreams.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:30 am– trueblue
trueblue – Troll-slayer extraordinaire.
Jake – “a sexually immature male wild turkey under two years old”
Scandal fatigued Republicans – PRICELESS!
March 28th, 2007 at 12:30 amWhat if she faced criminal charges even she testified truthfully and did nothing wrong?
Comment by Jake
Does that then mean that Clinton was innocent and wrongly accused?
LOL!!!
March 28th, 2007 at 12:31 amNight Blue.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:33 amWhat if she faced criminal charges even she testified truthfully and did nothing wrong?
Comment by Jake
Following you logic then, why should we even maintain a legal system in this country, since everybody runs the risk of being wrongly accused?
Jake, you are a complete and utter idiot.
Please, just go away.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:34 am#71 Following you logic then, why should we even maintain a legal system in this country, since everybody runs the risk of being wrongly accused?
Which puts the lie to their favorite nugget of wisdom…”if you have nothing to hide…”
March 28th, 2007 at 12:39 amJPark,
And that faulty argument reinforces what we have been saying all these months: the government cannot bypass its on laws in order to wiretap private conversations.
Can you imagine if a citizen were to be wrongfully accused based on conversations recorded secretly and illegally? What legal recourse would they have?
But these cons don’t mind the contradictions as long as they offer support to their Dear (mis)Leader.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:50 amSheesh, these Alaska runs – by the time I check in, the arguments are over and the “I love you man’s” are well underway….. might have to go back out to the brewpub…
March 28th, 2007 at 12:51 amhttp://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,21452353,00.html
THIS is the face of the Iraqi civil war. THIS is what we have wrought. If this story doesn’t rip your hear out you must be a Republican. And you bastards on the right keep telling us everything is AOK. Fine and dandy. You know what? Fuck you.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:58 amAnd the “I love you girl’s” too. Sorry – at least I didn’t tell any rape or dead child jokes.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:02 amPoor wittle Wepublicans, tired of all of their scumbaggery and chicanery and how it makes Americans think that they are a fetid pack of dissembling tools to a drunk Chimp and his Organ Grinding Master Rove.
Suck it up losers.
-GSD
March 28th, 2007 at 1:07 amYou mean we still have a fifth amendment? I thought the Bush Justice Dept got rid of all those quaint antiquated amendments. All except the second (leaving out that “well-regulated” part).
I also think Jake sees himself as a persecuted Jesus–in his own special perverted way.
It’s only 10:13 on the left coast.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:11 amOK, my last post was removed, I am sure for vulgarity. But it needs to be said.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,21452353,00.html
Read it righties. You are sick people to support this “war”. Believe me, my words would be much more colorful if I didn’t care if I would be deleted. Sick $#$%^$%
March 28th, 2007 at 1:12 amJPark – ah hell, I can’t understand why anyone could do that…the horrors that these people suffer all for one man’s ‘big johnson’ contest with his dad…
March 28th, 2007 at 1:12 am#77 Heh, you bring up a great point destined for a different thread. Well-regulated.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:13 am#80 I don’t get it. It is enough to bring tears to my eyes. I just think about my son. And raising him in that environment where there is a good chance he would be dead within a month. It makes me crazy. I would be so thankful if every bastard that voted for Bush would be in that situation.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:16 amGONZO, GONZO, WHEN WILL YA BE GONE–ZO?
March 28th, 2007 at 1:26 amYOU MISERABLE LITTLE LYING TWERP, DON’T YOU KNOW
THAT EVERYBODY HATES YOU, GONZO!!!!!
GONZO, GONZO, GO AWAY!
WITH GONZO NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY!
AND THE SOONER HE KNOWS THAT FACT, THE DAY
WILL BE FREE OF THE LIES OF GONZO—-YAY!!!!!!
SO GONZO, SCRAM YA PESTILENT JERK!
YA’RE STARTING TO MANY PEOPLE IRK!!!!!
GONZO, GONZO, JUMP IN THE LAKE
SINK AND DIE FOR EVERYONE’S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well done TBlue. =)
Big Mitch got in a good jab as well
I also think Jake sees himself as a persecuted Jesus–in his own special perverted way. -Keith
Jake knows that he’s not really persecuted for his belief, in fact he is inviting those here to deny God and his belief and using that for his gain. When a group of people feel persecuted it brings them together. Remember progressives are secular =) and we all have our beliefs, be they from Runes, UFOs, Evolution, or Wiccans.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:38 am#84 Not to be picky but evolution is not a belief system.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:40 amGoing back 2000 years, Jesus exercised his right to remain silent in the face of false charges too . . .
Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
And going back 13,500 uears, Enki used his right to silence against Lord Enlil. And the Annunaki still left mankind to his fate, a world wide deluge.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:42 am#85 Damn Babylonians did not know how to bash a homo.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:43 amOops, Sumerian.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:44 am#86 You are talking to a whacko. You lost him at 13,500 years.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:48 am#86, nobody back then knew how. Not until the evangelicals came along did good ole homo bashing begin.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:49 amYes, Sumerian.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:50 amHaving Spector as the leading spokesman for the demoralized Republicans is very apt. His demeanor, slow speech and shifty eyes convey more than his actual words. He’s sort of like Colmes of the Hannity & Colmes duo on Faux News; ie the dynamic and masculine Hannitry vs. the diminutive Colmes. Next to Schumer Spector he looks like the pimp that he truly is. Specky, your doin a helluva job. Keep it up!!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:04 am#84 Not to be picky but evolution is not a belief system.
Comment by JPark
So what is your theory? =) Big Bang? String theory? Ape theory? From the sea theory? Evolution theory?
March 28th, 2007 at 2:05 amCosmic Dust theory? O I know we all came from those little Panageans!! No men are from Mars theory!! =)
March 28th, 2007 at 2:07 amTheory is not the same as belief. It is evidence with a scientific theory vs. faith with religious belief.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:08 amI think some Alien race dropped us off here cause we could never stop fighting each other and then built a big OORT cloud around us so we couldn’t get out. Kidding of course.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:09 amSorry repukes but the only ointment available for that ailment is impeachment and a vigorous firing squad.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:09 am#93 No we came from some guy named Adam and some chick named Eve. Cause…that is what they made up a couple thousand years ago.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:11 amOkay back on topic…
SO the Frozen Scandal Man is starting to thaw out? Mwah!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:11 am#96……Amazing how the cultists believe words written by cavemen are gospel, yet words spoken by our forefathers are quaint…….History shall repeat itself.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:13 amNo we came from some guy named Adam and some chick named Eve. Cause…that is what they made up a couple thousand years ago.
Comment by JPark
No No, it was the Moties!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:14 amooops….looks like #96 was replaced by my own………….nice 2 meet you me….lol
March 28th, 2007 at 2:15 amOh Yeh, well my caveman can kick your cavemans A**!!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:17 am#102 I do that all the time. Most of the time because I have been deleted :)
March 28th, 2007 at 2:18 amWhat I don’t get is everybodies need to have a creation myth. Why is the “big bang” or “God created us” any more realistic than my theory. The universe has been around forever…no need for creation.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:21 am#102 I do that all the time. Most of the time because I have been deleted :)
Comment by JPark
Prolly how Jake feels most days [8^P
March 28th, 2007 at 2:21 amThe universe has been around forever
But even it must exist inside something right?
March 28th, 2007 at 2:23 am#105 Actually, I don’t think that nutcase gets deleted. It is that “fairness doctrine”, you know.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:23 am“fairness doctrineâ€
Yeh I don’t unnerstan the filter fairy’s fairness doctrine either. I have stuff get deleted for no obvious reason as well yet Seixon, MA, Flaco and the rest don’t seem to have problems. I think TP just likes to see trolls get beat down. Sadistic bastids!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:27 am#106 That is the thing Zep. It can’t logically exist inside anything. Logically, there can be no limit to the universe but that makes no sense. It is beyond comprehension that something goes on forever. But it must…otherwise, what is beyond it?
March 28th, 2007 at 2:27 amI know Tony Snow has cancer, I’m wondering if Bush has gannon or haggard yet? And of course Cheney has Lynn which is most certainly terminal.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:29 am#108 I hope that is the reason because I like to see the nasty ones get beat down too. I hope it isn’t fear that causes the curious difference in deletions.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:29 amTo be fair I usually know why I get deleted :)
March 28th, 2007 at 2:31 amhat is the thing Zep. It can’t logically exist inside anything. Logically, there can be no limit to the universe but that makes no sense. It is beyond comprehension that something goes on forever. But it must…otherwise, what is beyond it? Comment by JPark
Current physics state it is expanding.
Okay, Imagine this, inside our skull actually looks like a planetarium, if we were real small and in there looking up at it we would see the stars above =)
March 28th, 2007 at 2:33 amwelp I’m off to bed and to stare off into my inner planetarium!
GN!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:35 amI know that is the theory but how can the universe expand? What is it taking the place of? Nothing? It is too much for the human brain to take in.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:36 amNight Zep.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:39 amZep; I’m a practicing Druid myself. I pray to rock, trees, etc.
March 28th, 2007 at 2:44 amWe can only hope these bastards continue to be fatigued by their scandals. The beginning of the end for the Republic Party was their high-handed attempts to get in the way of Terry Schiavo’s husbands decision-making. Since that sad and sordid affair it seems the media have grown a small spine and the American public has finally removed its rose-colored glasses. Its my most sincere hope that for the next 664 days a new scandal comes to the public’s attention each and every day. Really big stuff like Jack Abramoff or the US Attorney firings or god/allah/vishnu knows what. Anything and everything that results in the Republic Party having even more egg on their collective smug faces.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:57 amWhen you choose to take the 5th you are kinda saying you did something and you don’t want to talk about it.Or you may have done something the people who question you may not like. So I’m not sure why someone would have to take the 5th in case they were in a hostile setting and may be misunderstood,arrested and immediately placed in jail unless they did. But,there has been so much inbreeding at all levels with every combination the mental stability of the entire gop subculture may feel they have done worse than the worst and know they deserve punishment.Like Ant Culture if she were left in a prison for sexual deviants a few days until she found she liked it allot.Then had severe quilt and just wouldn’t want to tak about it.At least not in a hostile setting.Or who knows.She might.Never mind.
March 28th, 2007 at 6:55 amWitches were condemned to death in Salem, MA once upon a time too ; )
Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
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They did not have the right to counsel, and hearsay was evidence back then.
Comment by trueblue — March 27, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Trueblue, that’s like in Guantanamo!
Jake, look the Bush administration has managed to get the US on the same level as the witch hunters of the middle ages. Well done, Mr Bush.
March 28th, 2007 at 8:00 amSen. Arlen Sphincter (R-Uranus)
March 28th, 2007 at 8:05 amHAS ANYONE SEE THIS..FROM A RIGHT WING PAPER…
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54861
March 28th, 2007 at 8:17 amIt’s sad for the Right. If they’d succeeded in hacking the 2006 vote (which they tried to do), our wounded soldiers would still be lying around in their own urine–but we wouldn’t know about it.
Congress would still be buggering pages at will; they’d still work from Tuesday to Thursday.
And they’d be focusing on the really important issues: destroying internet neutrality, screwing up Social Security, giving more powers to The Worst President Everâ„¢, preparing to nuke Iran, gaming the 2008 elections, and instituting the draft–the really cool stuff.
March 28th, 2007 at 8:20 amWell, boo-hoo … I am having a real hard time feeling sorry for a bunch of so-called law-makers that are now being held accountbale for breaking any law that would get in the way of their own self interests.
March 28th, 2007 at 8:56 amHow does impeachment work for non-elected officials?
March 28th, 2007 at 9:07 amGoing back 2000 years, Jesus exercised his right to remain silent in the face of false charges too . . .
Comment by Jake — March 27, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Jake knows because he was Jesus’ attorney. Some days he’s an attorney, some days he’s a doctor. Some days he’s Catholic some days Baptist. Which ever way the wind blows.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:48 amCom-n-sense (#124) is correct.
I recall a quote from the X-files around the same time as the Clinton impeachment mess:
- Fox Mulder
The Republicans have sowed the wind and are now starting to reap the whirlwind… they sacrificed their long term viability, credibility and majorities in Congress for their paramount desire, the zenith of their power, the war in Iraq.
This is what they wanted since before 1994. So, in my view, they should not “demur” when it comes back to bite them.
This is the true mystery to me.
I am a left-leaning independent… I don’t care much for either party.
But, whatever party does… they need to take responsibility for it.
(I really feel bad for the good Republicans, like both Senators from Maine… their reputations will be tarnished – even though these particular Republicans did nothing wrong. Just ask Lincoln Chafee!)
March 28th, 2007 at 9:56 am[...] Republicans are said to be suffering from “scandal fatigue” all I can say to them is imagine how awful we Dems feel. The fact that Libby was found [...]
March 28th, 2007 at 10:32 amThis whole thing reminds me of the “witch” scene from Monty Python’s Holy Grail…
Repubs: “What eveidence do you have that this woman is a witch?”
US Attorney; “She turned me into a newt!”
Repubs: “You don’t look like a newt”
US Attorney: “I got better”
Dems: “Burn her anyway!”
March 28th, 2007 at 11:02 amI just LOVE Trolls!
* sigh *
March 28th, 2007 at 12:45 pmJust wait Repukes.
Scandal Fatigue is a precursor to Impeachment Hearings and caused by Professional Corruption.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:55 pmmaybe you guys wouldn’t be so worn out if your party weren’t so damned crooked!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:41 pmSo the question seems to be: To fund or to pout. Listen, youse guys that elected (sort of) him to office are now responsible for enabling his bratty behavior and propping up the opiated decaying rotting hulk of his reality. It’s just so unbelievable how this country got to the point where this doofus is running the show. Not only is he delusional, but if you could only read his (limited) thoughts…….
(Dreamy music slowly fades in as the screen first blurs then sharpens to crystal clarity)
It was the soft, dull hollow thud that turned his head to the street as DICK saw ‘lil Georgie fly through the air like a mad-capped tard trapeze artist or even an wayward angel with a busted wing and poor communication skills. The foam head of his beer and the president went flat, and DICK saw stars twinkle in the late afternoon sky, like a song sung by squeaky voiced castratti. All chaos and confusion ensued as he viewed the flayed arms and legs, in a kind of twisted swastika. Some of the dipshits that elected him hummed hymns, while DICK absently threw some change into the small, white porcelain dish. A young girl brushed passed him in a fleeting memory of love long lost, there among the elderberries and lilies, from a time when all smelled of fresh pie and clean laundry.
(Fade back to reality)
That’s where we all are right now. Laying about with no direction. Sucking up the beer. Focused on how to make it through one day at a time. Looking at a sundial that casts no shadow. And we’re all caught in that shadowy equinox that sticks in your craw.
March 28th, 2007 at 6:34 pm