White House Stands By Swift Boat Nominee, Blames Withdrawal On ‘Partisan Politics’
White House Stands By Swift Boat Nominee, Blames Withdrawal On ‘Partisan Politics’
This morning, the White House withdrew the nomination of Swift Boat Vets funder Sam Fox to be ambassador to Belgium. If there was any question whether the White House’s move was a gesture of good will towards Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), that has been put to rest.
During today’s press briefing, White House spokesperson Dana Perino stood by Sam Fox, calling him a qualified candidate and saying that President Bush was “disappointed” that senators had rejected him “based on partisan politics instead of his leadership abilities.” (Explaining Fox’s qualifications, Perino twice mentioned the fact that Fox was named “St. Louis Citizen Of The Year” in 2003.) Asked whether the White House thought Fox’s contributions to a group that smeared veterans should have been an issue, Perino said, “No, I don’t think it is.”
Also, while only Sens. Kerry and Chris Dodd (D-CT) had formally announced their opposition to Fox’s nomination, Perino revealed that Fox was pulled because “his nomination would not have passed” the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Watch it:
Transcript:
Q: What happened to the Sam Fox nomination?
PERINO: Sam Fox nomination, let me — I did take a couple notes on that. As you saw, we sent up a withdrawal for Sam Fox’s nomination. The President believes that Mr. Fox is qualified to serve as Ambassador to Belgium. He has a proven record of leadership and a strong willingness to serve our country. He has a long list of accomplishments including one of them being named the St. Louis Citizen of the year. Unfortunately we received word that because of politics, some members of the Senate would have voted against his nomination, which would have prevented him from serving in this important position. So we are disappointed that they made their decision based on partisan politics instead of his leadership abilities, and that’s why we withdrew the nomination.
The votes weren’t there because of his $50,000 contribution to the Swift Boat group?
PERINO: I don’t know what all the reasons were, in terms of individual members making that decision, but we do think that he was qualified to serve but we have withdrawn his nomination.
Do you think his involvement with the Swiftboat group should be an issue, or should have been an issue?
PERINO: You know, I think you look at his — no, I don’t think it is, but of course members of Congress can make their own decisions. Senators can look at any nominee and weigh that decision. I think that if you weighed — if you look, he was chairman and CEO of the Harbor Group Ltd., serving key leadership roles in cultural, education, and charitable institutions in St. Louis, on and on, and again, St. Louis Citizen of the Year, so I think that Senators have to make their own decisions, but obviously this is a person who’s qualified to serve as ambassador.
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Did the White House know about his contribution before they nominated him?
PERINO: Uh, there’s no, I don’t believe so, but I know that the President did not when he nominated him. So…
Would that have had an effect?
PERINO: I don’t know.
Did senators threaten to put holds on him…
PERINO: I don’t know. I do know that they were — his nomination would not have passed today if the vote had been called up.
And why not let the vote go ahead?
PERINO: We just decided to withdraw his name.
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This is a sick joke. The American people have gotten wise to Bush’s sick tricks.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:01 pmYeah, a sick joke…but she’s sorta hot.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:04 pmDon’t blame me…I’m a registered independent.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThe Bush administration stays on message.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pm# 2. Sorta?? Here, borrow my glasses if you think she’s only sorta! (Too bad she’s a Repugnican however).
March 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWell, they would know quite a bit about that.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWhat’s the name of the book Rove wrote?
Elections have consequences!!! LOL.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pmThat’s what all the radical reich-wingers claim….O’Reilly, Savage, Rush, Giboson, etc., etc. Though, I don’t blame you GOPigs for being ashamed of your pathetic party.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:09 pmWhat’s this world coming to when you can’t even get away with financing a partisan Swiftboating anymore?
March 28th, 2007 at 3:10 pm#2 Vulgar moron
This administration has divided this country on purpose. They can reach into the till of a divided nation, they created, any time and blame partisan politics….How convenient. I can’t wait to see these people in 10 years with sagging jowls and diminished lives. They have no real lives accept feeding off of others and trying to steal everyone blind
March 28th, 2007 at 3:10 pmNo “partisan politics” in that Swiftboat bullsht. Only Democrats are guilty of partisan politics; for Republicans it’s just good strategy.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:10 pmThis is interesting, but only in the same context that a train wreck is “interestingâ€. Blood, guts, mangled wreckage, and the body counts of victims. But in the end, it is just macabre theatre diverting attention and focus from the more heinous and dire crimes that we, as a nation, are directly responsible for or complicit in through our feigned ignorance and apathy.
We are 4 years into a “war†that we were deceived and misled into engaging in against an innocent citizenry with over 600,000 murdered to date and countless injured and maimed. Some called the bullsh*t from the beginning. Others became wise to it soon after the start. Yet the murder, mayhem, rape, and violent oppression continue to this day because we just cannot figure out how to stop pulling the trigger. Shame on each and every one of us.
Then there is the morally criminal torture and imprisonment of foreigners and our own citizens that continues unabated. I can only say “morally criminal†because we made it LEGAL through the MCA. Nobody talks about this at all anymore which is as reprehensible as the act itself.
We allow spying on our own citizens, ALL of them. We allow war profiteers to not only steal from us, but also our unborn children and grand children. We accept deception and corruption as being just part of the political game. We allow for our own family, neighbors, and friends to be exploited and used as tools of oppression. Some at the cost of their very lives. Others at the cost of their mental well being, their happiness, their souls.
We are standing on the precipice of starting another monumental act of murder and every crime against humanity imaginable against Iran. Many don’t care in the least because of their racism and bigotry. Most don’t concern themselves with it because they believe that we would never attack an innocent country, murder innocent people, and engage in genocide. How anyone can believe such with the Iraq atrocity continuing even as we speak cannot be dismissed as just inbred ignorance, but it is criminal negligence.
Are we going to continue to entertain ourselves with trite political theatre while the blood flows like rivers and our soul becomes so black that the light of a thousand suns would not be able to illuminate it in the least? Are we going to continue to allow our worries about mortgages, car payments, or what version of the iPod to buy to outweigh our moral obligation not just to our society and constitution, but to humanity as a whole? If you are blessed enough to have a child, then look into their eyes and tell them now that you threw away their future and their very life because you were afraid that you might not be able to pay the cable bill.
We are running out of time, my fellow Americans. The situation is no longer urgent, it is dire.
For those of you who wish to continue in complacent and arrogant ignorance, here is your news:
March 28th, 2007 at 3:11 pm- Heather Mills leg did not fly off
- McCain is still a liar and a thief
- Two “important†Americans have the same affliction that hundreds of thousands of lesser Americans do, cancer.
- North Dakota regained the world record for generating the most simultaneous snow angels.
I posted the above comment on a previous thread. Before the self-anointed blog police give me grief over it, ask yourself if it rings true and is just as “on topic†here as it was on the previous thread. Which is part of the point in the first place.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:12 pmFox contributed to the smearing of a decorated combat veteran to benefit a draft dodger, but pointing this out is “partisan”.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:15 pmYou know, it’s too bad that the Congress is now in Democratic control because of the blatant “partisan politics” of elections.
All of those Americans who voted for Democrats instead of Republicans put partisan politics ahead of the interests of the nation.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWell, if the current administration would STOP playing “partisan politics” all the time, maybe they wouldn;’t get caught up in their self-generated “partisan politics” problems.
I’m just sayin. . . . .
March 28th, 2007 at 3:15 pmJake. Always off topic. Always drawing attention to himself.
Please go somewhere else. Thank you.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:15 pm#2..I agree, I’d do her with the light out.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWell of course it’s partisan politics, you twit. Everything in D.C. is partisan politics. Like wanting “your guys” in the Justice Dept., yanno?
March 28th, 2007 at 3:21 pmHow can you blame politics when Bush pulled the nomination? I think I can speak for all Democrats when I say…’the Republicans should hold an up-or-down vote’!!!
March 28th, 2007 at 3:23 pmDuring today’s press briefing, White House spokesperson Dana Perino stood by Sam Fox, calling him a qualified candidate and saying that President Bush was “disappointed†that senators had rejected him “based on his fanatical contribution to Republican partisan politics instead of his leadership abilities.â€
Fixed.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:24 pmShe’s so cute that it hurts me that much more to have her be the mouthpiece for such an ugly administration.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:27 pmOff topic but a sign of the times:
The US has lost its position as the world’s primary engine of technology innovation, according to a report by the World Economic Forum.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:29 pmPartisan politics? Of course Sam Fox was rejected on the basis of partisan politics, he chose to engage in them when he smeared Kerry in 2004. It was then that he clearly chose to emphasize his partisan actions over whatever leadership abilities he possesses.
Jesus Christ, these people don’t even think.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:30 pmWhy do you think this White House picks “sorta hot”? ha ha
To distract morons like # 2 # 5 and # 18! :)
March 28th, 2007 at 3:32 pmThe White House knows that there is a group out there they don’t have to worry about if they can just engage their tiny dicks. For the more intelligent however, the White House is going to have to work a bit harder!
bush administration rule #4080: point fingers at others and act shady
March 28th, 2007 at 3:36 pmWell, since Republicans are the party of “partisan politics” 24/7, is anyone surprised they blame their own home-grown tactics on everything they don’t like?
Anyone at all?!?!?
I thought not. . .
March 28th, 2007 at 3:38 pmAs far as Dana Perino goes, I have nothing against her yet – just her employer.
I do think that it’s possibly another sign of how desperate they are that they put a pretty blond in the lights to distract as many as possible though. Hey, it seems to work for FOX right?
Tuber – personally, I find your passion inspiring. I myself worry that we’re letting ourselves get distracted by all these scandals that we’re getting deluged with. Thanks for urging us to keep our eyes (and hearts) on what REALLY matters! (like the survival of our country and our planet for ex.)
March 28th, 2007 at 3:41 pmIf this is the best the Repugs can do to replace Snow, they are in deeeeep trouble! She hasn’t quite got the hang of knowing your Rover Talking Points before going in and she sure doesn’t sound too convinced that what she is blabbering is even true.
Maybe she is just a show piece, til they can find ANYONE who wants to get up in front of the world and spray bullsh*t randomly around a room of reporters every day….. must be the toughest job in the US of A right now!
March 28th, 2007 at 3:44 pmStanding by a “Swiftboater”, while accusing others of *partisan-politics*! The GOP is ON-MESSAGE, all right, and the message is HYPOCRISY!! BAHAHA, no wonder the latest polling shows ever declining support for the GOP by American voters. They haven’t been this unpopular in over a generation! I say keep it up GOP, you’re doing a fine job of campaigning for the opposition ;)
March 28th, 2007 at 3:47 pmDid Bush think that Kerry would just let bygones be bygones? Did he think Kerry would not be man enough to speak out? Did he think that Kerry would be professional enough to just overlook the smear campaign and approve Fox anyway?
The only similar experience, that Bush has in this arena was the 2000 campaign and John McCain. Bush cronies smeared McCain in South Carolina and four years later McCain hugged Bush in front of the national media.
I guess Kerry was not willing to play the same toadie. Today the White House withdrew Fox’s nomination in advance of almost certain defeat at the hands of Kerry’s committee.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:47 pm#25.
Why do I have a feeling that you are not “sorta hot?” At least your cats probably like you.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:47 pm“This administration has divided this country on purpose. They can reach into the till of a divided nation, they created, any time and blame partisan politics….How convenient. I can’t wait to see these people in 10 years with sagging jowls and diminished lives. They have no real lives accept feeding off of others and trying to steal everyone blind
Comment by s — March 28, 2007 @ 3:10 pm”
Divided this country? How?
March 28th, 2007 at 3:47 pmFeeding off of others? How?
So only 2 of the 50 Senators oppose Fox and the WH pulls his nomination. How many Senators told the WH behind closed doors to run from this cancer. They already have enough shit sandwiches on their plate.
This looks like a concession from the WH to the Republican Senators so they wouldn’t have to be hammered on this guy as well as all the other FUBARS the WH has it’s hands in.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“That kettle is black,” said the pot.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Fox contributed to the smearing of a decorated combat veteran to benefit a draft dodger, but pointing this out is “partisanâ€.
Comment by Yachts and Lattes — March 28, 2007 @ 3:15 pm”
They did? How?
March 28th, 2007 at 3:49 pmBeing in the technology industry myself, I can tell you that this is true 100%. We do not lead, we follow. This is all part of Globalization, aka a New World Order. All of our R&D, manufacturing has gone away. People can’t improve on products they don’t make.
Most of the companies in this country OEM products from Taiwan or China. The only thing that they had any say in was what the plastic shell will look like.
Globalization is a very bad thing for this country, when it is combined with off shoring.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:51 pmYeah, for the really intelligent folks, they are going to need a “totally hot” chick to distract. : )
March 28th, 2007 at 3:52 pmmichael…….since we know your questions are simply diversions….I suggest you pay attention to what’s going on in the world. All your questions will be answered!! :)
March 28th, 2007 at 3:54 pmMichael re: #35 – - You can’t think outside your micro-sized box, can ya?
March 28th, 2007 at 3:55 pmShe looks like she is going over to the dark side – her eyes don’t match anymore!
March 28th, 2007 at 3:56 pmI don’t see how anyone could find a neo-con mouthpiece hot. Handsome is as handsome does.
I have to admit I like Dana and she is more than “sorta hot,” she is smoking hot.
That said, she has, so far, been far more forthcoming and less patranizing than Snow. I thought he was a creep. She has been in an impossible position and her discomfort is readily evident.
I am all for Dana keeping the job at this time. Americans are better served by secretarys that speak the truth as much as possible. Her administration makes that impossible, for that I do not blame her. I do wonder why anyone works for this White House. I count that distinctly in her disfavor.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:57 pmExactly! I agree tuber
March 28th, 2007 at 3:57 pmThanks. :)
“They did? How?”
“they” is sam fox. take a breath. relax.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:57 pmWhat part of the White House has not engaged in partisan politics?
If the White House pulled Sam Foxs’ name it was probably not because of the Democrats, but as Harriet Miers, due to Republican lack of support and or cronyism.
Is this the same Sam Fox of the?
Harbour Group (Sam Fox)
Libby Legal Defense Trust
Bush Pioneer 2000
Bush Pioneer 2004 Ranger
Yes.
October 2002, The Harbour group, SBSF and the Republican-leaning Alexander Strategy Group announced that they were forming a “tri-partisan” strategic alliance to provide “the best legal, political and legislative resources available in the Nation’s capital.
Why does the name Alexander group sound familiar?
On January 9, 2006, ASG announced it would be closing shop due to being “fatally damaged by publicity about the ongoing federal investigation into the affairs of” and “its ties to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff and former House majority leader Tom DeLay.
Well, even the Swiftboaters couldn’t swifboat that one =)
March 28th, 2007 at 3:57 pmThe fact that a pr!ck like you is badgering people on a blog is proof of this dividing. Or are you a pr!ck to everybody you meet online and in person.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:58 pmMichael do you know how to be quiet and read?
March 28th, 2007 at 4:01 pmProve it?
Spudge_Boy. Yes. A type of person has emerged since the cabal took over that is no longer genuine nor feels compelled to engage with people on a sincere…decent level. TROLLS. :) They just spew….because they think it’s fun, cool, and they love the tussle. They are morons. They lead the opposite of the examined life…….They really don’t have a clue.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:04 pmWhen the troll fad dies out, they’ll have to go back to eating in front of the TV all alone………
A pretty face speaking for an ugly man, Bush needs to go NOW. Impeach-convict-incarcerate!!!!!
March 28th, 2007 at 4:05 pmPittsburgh Kid,
Sortta hot? Good God man shes the spokesperson for satan, what does looks have to do with it, don’t look directly at it or you could lose your soul.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:07 pm#48 Love it! :)
March 28th, 2007 at 4:08 pmhow can anybody in the Bush Administration even SAY the word “partisan” without people falling about laughing?
March 28th, 2007 at 4:10 pmgummitch,
You’ve won retarded post of the day.
Unless of course evil is a strategy, then you are correct Republic666ans exercise good strategy
March 28th, 2007 at 4:10 pmI posted the above comment on a previous thread. Before the self-anointed blog police give me grief over it, ask yourself if it rings true and is just as “on topic†here as it was on the previous thread. Which is part of the point in the first place.
Comment by Tuber
Actually you posted in 3 different threads
March 28th, 2007 at 4:12 pmI was wondering if rachel jacked your name.
one thread should have been enough
Divided this country? How?
Feeding off of others? How?
Comment by michael
You having a reading comprehension problem is not a good reason for us to have to answer your moronic questions.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:16 pmWe have told you this before, Idiot.
Michael don’t make me come over there and rip the question mark off your keyboard.
How do you ever learn anything if you continually ask repetitive questions that you can find the answer for all by yourself? Your borish inquisitive style is not capable of debate.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:18 pmOh yeah and this chick is not “sorta hot” She is frumpy and mousy.
This is hot.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:20 pmA pretty face speaking for an ugly man
Anybody remember the TV Sci Fi series “V”?
March 28th, 2007 at 4:22 pmThe lizard alien gals were really cute, but underneath the skin facade, all scales & slime…
#49 Rocks911
Sorry Rocks911, when I’m looking at a piece of tail, I don’t typically ask for party affilliation.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:24 pmRefer to post #56
March 28th, 2007 at 4:28 pmYeh she is a pretty woman.
But the world is full of them and I thank God we don’t have to go to the WH to find them. =)
March 28th, 2007 at 4:30 pmSorry Rocks911, when I’m looking at a piece of tail, I don’t typically ask for party affilliation.
Comment by The Pittsburgh Kid
I do.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:35 pmI don’t date Republican women, period.
Not after being previously married to one. LOL
gummitch,
You’ve won retarded post of the day.
Unless of course evil is a strategy, then you are correct Republic666ans exercise good strategy
Comment by Rocks911
What part of irony do you fail to comprehend?
March 28th, 2007 at 4:35 pmDana Perino = Bush’s next Scapegoat and GOP Sycophant. Too bad she’s not very intelligent because she’s sure to get herself trapped by the journalists. She almost did yesterday. She won’t last the month and will be chewed to shreds by anyone with above-average intelligence.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:38 pmAs Mr. Bush would be the first to admit, partisan politics are not all bad. They are reprehensible when they mislead Americans about what our government is doing and on whose behalf, and when they thwart the will of the people and the execution of our laws, or seek to insulate a favored few from the equal application of those laws regardless of race, color, creed, national origin or wealth.
The probes of Mr. Bush’s conduct already launched, and those yet to come, may be partisan. They are also legitimate and purposeful. Pursuing and cooperating with them would be in the best interests of the United States. Obstructing them would be partisan politics of the worst kind.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:38 pmDana Schla-mino clearly qualifies as the quintessential ‘bubble headed bleach blonde”, doesn’t she?
March 28th, 2007 at 4:39 pmDana won’t last the month of April!
March 28th, 2007 at 4:40 pm#64 Eloquently stated! When the american people and this congress gets done with Mr. Bush, he’ll probably be ready for a mental institution. Today he looked absolutely “unglued” as he threatened Pelosi et al with regard to the Iraq bill. He’s coming apart at the seams…and those seams are not bound too tightly to begin with, as we all know. I suspect that either his shrink will begin medicating him as Pelosi clearly recognized with her comment of “take a deep breath and settle down with the threats” and made a point of it to the american people. People who have read “Bush on the Couch” by Justin A. Frank, M.D. already know that he has had mental problems and it’s beginning to manifest itself now with each passing day.
Of course, anyone who has lied consistently and then lied again to cover each lie up…..has much to remember and much to defend. It’s no wonder he’s “paranoid” and “delusional”.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:44 pmYup Spudge, that’s hot.
I never even watched that show she used to be on a while ago. I knew back then she would go far.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:48 pmSin City is by far her best work. That slow motion gyrating…….mmmmm
I’ll be back.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:50 pmTake yer time there Spudge…
March 28th, 2007 at 4:52 pm#53-Wayne,
No, I only posted that comment on this thread and the one preceeded it.
Yet after looking at what has followed this thread, I could have posted it in those as well and it would have continued to be both on topic and relevant.
We sit and watch and laugh at the theatre while our country burns. Nero no longer looks like a fool, just a “patriot”.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:03 pmSorry ladies, it seems some of us guys are focused on our pr!cks.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:05 pmDems and Progs feign SHOCK and DISMAY that politics plays a part in, uhmmm ….politics. GROW UP!
March 28th, 2007 at 5:07 pmTake yer time there Spudge…
Comment by ForTruth — March 28, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
I’m back.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:08 pmfor all of their whining like tiny babies about “partisan politics”, maybe the GOP should consider relocating to a country with only one political party.
how about that righties? you go to china, where the political landscape would be more suitable to you. you wouldn’t have those big, mean opponents trying to make you look bad any more……poor widdew wepubwicans….
(think how truculent they’d be if they had to win votes in a country with 3-4 or more political parties, as in most of the advanced democracies in the world.)
GOP politics is better suited to another era – pre cold war maybe….
…they’ve little if any handle on, or relevance to, today’s world.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:09 pmThanks Sponge and 4Truth….I was starting to think the gay wing of the male gender had taken over the Dem party and Prog movement. It’s good to know the phony “straight, sensitive” metrosexuals are well represented……
March 28th, 2007 at 5:12 pmTom – Both Dems and Repubs LOVE the arena of partisan politics…….
Democrat Definition of “bi-partisan” – - “YOU agree with us.”
March 28th, 2007 at 5:16 pmDemocrat Definition of Liberal Republican– “Independent”
Democrat Definition of Conservative Dem – - “Sell-OUT”, “Traitor”
Conservative Definition of Intolerant – - “Progressives”
“michael…….since we know your questions are simply diversions….
Comment by s — March 28, 2007 @ 3:54 pm”
No they’re not! They are meant to challenge a statement to see how smart or stupid you are!
March 28th, 2007 at 5:17 pmValient,
I’m confused, do you think the “straight” part is phony or the “sensitive” part is phony.
I know how you Repub women think of a guy who doesn’t avoid his emotions, they’re “faggots” right?
If you need me to dominate you I can do that.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:18 pmI believe anything this magnificent Aryan goddess says. She definitely holds her own against the vicious attacks by the liberal media.
;)
March 28th, 2007 at 5:19 pmSorry ladies, it seems some of us guys are focused on our pr!cks.
Comment by ForTruth
And this is unusual how?……
;)
March 28th, 2007 at 5:19 pm“Michael re: #35 – - You can’t think outside your micro-sized box, can ya?
Comment by Badmoodman — March 28, 2007 @ 3:55 pm”
And you can’t tell us how Fox helped the Swifties smear kerry!
March 28th, 2007 at 5:19 pmI also eat cage free brown eggs, not because I care about chickens so much, I don’t get the shits from them like the cheap eggs.
Is that macho enough?
March 28th, 2007 at 5:20 pmmichael, since you are the latter ……..there is no point. Sorry. :)
March 28th, 2007 at 5:20 pm“Comment by tom baker”
Indeed. Republicans seem to identify a lot with certain other Republics they profess to be against.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:21 pm“michael…….since we know your questions are simply diversions….
Comment by s — March 28, 2007 @ 3:54 pmâ€
No they’re not! They are meant to challenge a statement to see how smart or stupid you are!
Comment by michael — March 28, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
LOL
March 28th, 2007 at 5:22 pmOh really, How?
“Michael re: #35 – - You can’t think outside your micro-sized box, can ya?
Comment by Badmoodman — March 28, 2007 @ 3:55 pmâ€
And you can’t tell us how Fox helped the Swifties smear kerry!
Comment by michael — March 28, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
LOL That is a tiny box you have. This is another show of your stupidity.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:24 pm4Truth – the “New Age Sensitive” man is phony…..unless they over bonged their brains (and are still living in their adolescent fantasies)….then we call them Leftards.
(Anyone of the male persuasion who needed the “clarification” is trying to appear “sensitive”. Lib men discovered years ago that they “got lucky” more often with “liberated” women if they appeared sensitive.)
March 28th, 2007 at 5:27 pmShe stammers a lot… guess Bush lied to her, too. Like boy George didn’t know that Fox gave money to the Swift Boaters… and we are suppose to believe. Heh!
March 28th, 2007 at 5:30 pmSo Valient,
You are saying I am really not sensitive and its a game to get laid. Well I’m not in the market to get laid, so what’s my motivation to “appear” that way?
March 28th, 2007 at 5:35 pmValient,
If I didn’t know better, I would say you can’t accept a man who would be aware of your emotional needs and try to meet them, because of your own self-esteem issues. You feel more comfortable with an abusive jerk.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:38 pmValient,
I never go lucky for being sensitive, it really worked against me in the “getting laid” department. Becuase all the young women were interested in the “bad boys” like you. So I still don’t see any reasons for it other than intrinsic.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:39 pmValient,
If you accepted the “new age sensitive man” as being for real, you would have to come to terms with the fact that you can’t get one for yourself, and have to keep settling with abusive jerks.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:40 pm4Truth – if my husband, “Prince Valiant” qualifies as a “bad-boy” then you’re more screwed up than I thought.
P.S. I’m not so needy as to need to have my emotional needs met by someone else – that’s kind of like looking for someone else to make YOU happy…..but I think there are alot of “The View” viewers who would agree with you!
(FYI – happiness is an inside job — sadly, many progressives look like they could use an extra dose of fiber…..
March 28th, 2007 at 5:49 pmValient,
You are not married. So whatever with that one.
You got me on the emotional needs part, touche’.
I still think you go with abuse jerks anyway.
You know the talk, but you still seem to express your own inner unhappiness quite often here at TP. You don’t seem to feel women have an equal place.
And you don’t even know how screwed up I am, so don’t even try to go there.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:56 pmValient & ForTruth,
You folks need to get a room.
March 28th, 2007 at 6:06 pmOh crap Tuber, you friken outed me.
March 28th, 2007 at 6:10 pmOur fearless chimp can stand up and say that anyone who disagrees with him is hurting the nation and therefore committing treason by implication, but now now wer’e playing partisan politics… FU, coke boy.
March 28th, 2007 at 6:10 pm#97-ForTruth,
Sorry dude.
March 28th, 2007 at 6:29 pm#95 - “Valient, You are not married. So whatever with that one.”
Gasssp!!! I’m NOT?? Don’t tell our kids…..
“And you don’t even know how screwed up I am,”
March 28th, 2007 at 6:48 pmOhhhh….I’ve got a pretty good idea…..
Gasssp!!! I’m NOT?? Don’t tell our kids….. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
Your three cats don’t count – and neither does your fantasy friends on myspace.
“And you don’t even know how screwed up I am,â€
Ohhhh….I’ve got a pretty good idea…..
Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
That’s all projection – st*pid c*nt.
March 28th, 2007 at 7:20 pm4Truth – the “New Age Sensitive†man is phony…..unless they over bonged their brains (and are still living in their adolescent fantasies)….then we call them Leftards. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Is that why you’re single? Because the men you describe, are all of the an*l cyst draft dodgers you call *leaders* – living in their adolescent fantasies. There you are – keeping them *company*.
Just so you know, sensitivity in men comes *after* adolescence – st*pid c*nt.
(Anyone of the male persuasion who needed the “clarification†is trying to appear “sensitiveâ€. Lib men discovered years ago that they “got lucky†more often with “liberated†women if they appeared sensitive.) Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
BHAAHAHAHAHA, you’re a st*pid c*nt – little Mighty Anorexic!
For a 23 year old girl, you sound just like a 12 year old boy! Why do you hate *men* and *women* so much? Is it because you can’t make up your own mind *which* you are?
March 28th, 2007 at 7:23 pm4Truth – if my husband, “Prince Valiant†qualifies as a “bad-boy†then you’re more screwed up than I thought. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
You mean the *gay* one from Shrek? That explains your own sexual *confusion*.
P.S. I’m not so needy as to need to have my emotional needs met by someone else – that’s kind of like looking for someone else to make YOU happy…..but I think there are alot of “The View†viewers who would agree with you! Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
You need a therapist to attend to your emotional needs – that Anorexia is a sure sign that you’re one f*cked up little c*nt!
(FYI – happiness is an inside job — sadly, many progressives look like they could use an extra dose of fiber….. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
That’s ironic, considering how you look on your myspace page! St*pid c*nt.
March 28th, 2007 at 7:26 pmValient,
C’mon now, you are still trying to keep up that charade about having some kind of family? I thought your kids were dead? I think you lie even when it’s not necessary, and telling the truth would be just as easy.
March 28th, 2007 at 7:36 pmC’mon 4Truth – I should believe you’re a “straight”, sensitive, hard-working sort of guy………because????? Sorry, but nothing you’ve written here demonstrates any of that.…..
Speaking of the truth – apparently that’s your Last name – not a personal credo by which you live…..
IF you are ever lucky enough to be a parent, I hope to God you NEVER lose a child.
March 28th, 2007 at 7:43 pmValient you live in an alternative reality.
I try to have a civil converstation with you, and you resort to lies.
I give you the credit when you have a point, I am not guarded about it.
What do you do?
March 28th, 2007 at 7:46 pmWhatever….
Yup I’m sure all the posters who know me would agree I never show an interest in hetersexuality. I never talk about hot chicks and boobs and stuff. Right?
March 28th, 2007 at 7:48 pmGotta go,
I have to get my nails done, buy tickets to the musical, get that Barbera Striesand CD, plan my costume for the gay pride parade, and shave my a**hole.
March 28th, 2007 at 7:51 pm4Toooth – Refresh my memory – you’ve tried to have a “civil conversation” and “give you credit when you have a point”……..with me??????……When?
You are funny!!! I’ll give you that….
March 28th, 2007 at 7:58 pmBut when YOU (so cavalierly) mention my deceased baby, you POS….you parrot “The Shrew”.
Liars! Liars! Every F’in one of them, liars!!!
March 28th, 2007 at 8:06 pmThey smile through their F’in teeth at you and lie!!!
i see the vituperative one has returned, obviously recharged from attending a thread-jacking forum at the lee atwater institute for gutterpolitik. i’m so impressed and at the same time ashamed.
March 28th, 2007 at 8:24 pmC’mon 4Truth – I should believe you’re a “straightâ€, sensitive, hard-working sort of guy………because????? Sorry, but nothing you’ve written here demonstrates any of that.….. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
We should believe you’re a “straight”, motherly woman, that’s married with multiple children……because???? Sorry, but nothing you’ve written here demonstrates any of that….. Anorexia girl. Your myspace page of course shows you to be a fraud, and a compulsive liar.
Speaking of the truth – apparently that’s your Last name – not a personal credo by which you live….. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Kind of like “valiant”, a term that one wouldn’t think of to describe you.
IF you are ever lucky enough to be a parent, I hope to God you NEVER lose a child. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
IF you are ever lucky enough to be a parent, I hope to “Godless” (funny eh?) you NEVER lose a child and then make Jokes about it. Like you did here – you heartless sick st*pid c*nt.
March 28th, 2007 at 8:50 pm4Toooth – Refresh my memory – you’ve tried to have a “civil conversation†and “give you credit when you have a pointâ€â€¦â€¦..with me??????……When? Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
Refresh my memory – you’ve tried to have a “civil conversation†and “give you credit when you have a pointâ€â€¦â€¦..with who??????……When?
You are funny!!! I’ll give you that….
But when YOU (so cavalierly) mention my deceased baby, you POS….you parrot “The Shrewâ€. Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
You aren’t funny, and neither were your dead baby jokes about your own child you perverse sick st*pid little Anorexic c*nt.
March 28th, 2007 at 8:51 pmAnd your myspace page shows you to be the “Queen” of the Florida coast……..so what?
March 28th, 2007 at 8:59 pmYeah Valient,
You’re right, I’m not nearly as in touch with my masculine side as you are.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:04 pmmeanwhile – back at the topic of the thread – v v has nothing to contribute, and swiftboaters are still the scum of the earth, worthy only of fragging by their comrades in arms.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:13 pmAnd your myspace page shows you to be the “Queen†of the Florida coast……..so what? Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
BHAHAHAHA, you think I’m Hendler? BAHAHA, now *that* is funny! I agree he is quite *queenie*, but he’s one of those *masculine* GOP men you so love! I’m sure he’s WAY more butch than your *imaginary* husband though!
You’ve seen me posting for so long, and you miss that my handle makes fun of the two st*pidest trolls around – you and Hendler!
But it’s very *funny* that you’re so st*pid you smeared Hendler! I just love it!
Hear that Jason, valiant venus thinks you’re a *queen*! But we all knew that! After all, what female hating GOP right wingnut isn’t a big old closet queen???? As for you venus, you’re right. Compared to *you*, Jason is particularly queenie. Did you go to one of those lesbian colleges – or did you just experiment with your sorority sisters? Come out sister – we ALL know you’re just another sexually confused CoulterETTE!
March 28th, 2007 at 9:19 pmYou’re right, I’m not nearly as in touch with my masculine side as you are. Comment by ForTruth — March 28, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
Did you see her website? Her adam’s apple is almost as big as Coulter’s!!! She’s just another Mary Cheney wanna-be self loathing GOP closet case…
March 28th, 2007 at 9:21 pmYeah I saw the page. I didn’t try to look that close.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:23 pm#116 – Tom, actually “swiftboaters” are the antithesis of “comrades in arms.â€
“Swiftboaters” work to tear down people that have honorably served. “Swiftboaters” are backstabbers to veterans, and have the same “honor†as traitors and other neo-conservative types: none.
True veterans may disagree with other veterans, but they’d never lie about people with whom they’ve never served. “Swiftboating” is a term used by veterans to describe those that are deserve of contempt, are incapable of speaking the truth, and should be ignored.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:24 pmSorry Tom the place has pretty much been hijacked.
It’s an opinion forum about how hot Dana Perino is. She’s doable.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:25 pm“….worthy only of fragging by their comrades in arms.”
Comment by tom baker
Are you talking about John Murtha again??
March 28th, 2007 at 11:13 pmSee the LYING Perino there, with HER STRINGY BLEACH-BLOND HAIR!!!!
March 28th, 2007 at 11:37 pmSam Fox was a “faux paux” and a ROTTEN EGG in the FACEof MONKEY BOY CHIMPya IF EVER I SAW ONE!!!!!
That was dumb VV.
March 29th, 2007 at 12:45 amI was starting to think the gay wing of the male gender had taken over the Dem party and Prog movement.
comment by venomous venus
So has the macho wing of the male gender, such as Mark Foley, Ken Mehlman, and Ted Haggard, been in control of the Repug party?
March 29th, 2007 at 12:55 amAnd you can’t tell us how Fox helped the Swifties smear kerry!
Comment by michael
And, mikey aka howsad, your reading comprehension is so poor that you can’t tell what a $50,000 contribution to the Swifites means.
March 29th, 2007 at 12:58 amBTW, I’m still waiting for you to tell me what illustrious people were produced by your supposedly superior private high school.
Are you talking about John Murtha again??
Comment by valiant venus — March 28, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
Sounds more like McCain – too bad he’s your *only* veteran the GOP seems to have!!! St*pid c*nt!
March 29th, 2007 at 2:32 amWaxman, yesterday:
“I think that the basic rules of gov’t is that federal agencies are NOT to be used for gov’t politicing. The rules for anybody heading up an ag’cy is that they have to follow the rules that say that gov’t resources are NOT to be used for partisan politics, they can’t give no bid contracts to their friends, and they should listen to their career staff and auditors when it involves millions of dollars out of the taxpayers’ pockets.”
I think we’re about to find out that the Justice Dept. career staff want to disgorge all sorts of details about Bushco criminality.
March 29th, 2007 at 3:34 amwow, this forum decayed fast.
March 29th, 2007 at 3:45 amhave they replaced SNowjob with Blowjob McBoobs?
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