Anti-contraception family-planning appointee resigns.
By on Mar 29th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Anti-contraception family-planning appointee resigns.
Eric Keroack, appointed in November by President Bush to oversee federal family planning programs, has resigned. Keroack was a nationally known advocate of abstinence until marriage who had worked for a Christian pregnancy counseling group that opposes contraception. Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards responded, “It’s a good day for women’s health. … The Bush administration must replace Keroack with a legitimate, mainstream public health expert who supports family planning and access to birth control.”
UPDATE: Ann at Feministing has more on Keroack’s ethics problems.
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The Bush administration must replace Keroack with a legitimate, mainstream public health expert who supports family planning and access to birth control.â€
Oh, he “must” huh?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:15 pmHow many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage to experience God’s gift of sex?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:16 pmAnother wheel falls off!
March 29th, 2007 at 10:17 pmSex is a gift from Odin. I’m glad we got rid of this fake.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:18 pmLet’s define a few terms up front too:
Pregnancy = fertilization, not implantation in the womb
Contraception = preventing pregnancy
March 29th, 2007 at 10:20 pmGreat Job! Now we can get someone in there who respects our Lord Enki. Our Gods, the Annunaki will be pleased today!
March 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pmIs this a Senate approved presidential appointment?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pmWell knowing bull shit bush as we all do my guess he will get some fool in the agracultural group to head this up…Maybe brownie is free to reup his bush comitment….LOL..Blessings
March 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe United States is a predominantly Judeo-Christian country, Viking — we don’t believe in Norse mythology.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pmThis is not on topic, but I think this is good idea, and since I have no clout, I’m hoping someone with some authority/power will read this and pass it along:
Answer to Bush Veto:
A member from the House and Senate each introduce a bill to fund bringing our troops home now.
After all, Bush vetoed (coming soon) the bill to fund them (and protect them while they’re in harm (sic) way), so if bush doesn’t want to fund them, we’d better bring them home right now… and here’s the money to do so.
What do you think?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pmComment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
I know we’d all be better off if your parents had never had sex, Jake.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:24 pmIf I married the first girl that I had sex with I would be in jail or a mental institution by now. And as far as god’s gift…I only remember the two of us there. And who gives the gift to the heathens when they bump uglies?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:25 pmHey, bull shit, rummies free, he can work 2 job’s and get paid for one..Geees..Every one’s leaving this piece of shit, even his best bud’s the saudis dont want his hand’s up their dresses any more…What a miserable dictator to do…..Blessings
March 29th, 2007 at 10:25 pmWhether you believe it is a gift from God or not, the question still stands: how many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:26 pmComment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
You should stick to church and Fox News. But nobody around here is interested in your pea-brained, unscientific opinion on human reproduction or sexuality.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI think,
Answer to Bush veto: SILENCE.
end of funding.
end of war.
period.
Bush didn’t approve the funding to support the troops.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:26 pmgooderservice:
Or, what if the next bill was to fully fund the troops but we have to send everyone who posts on the Internet with a screen name starting with the letter “G” gets sent to Gitmo — would that be O.K. to veto?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:28 pmNo Jake, America is a secular and religious free country. Your Christian mythology is from some backward Middle East country. We do not need your mythology here.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:28 pmwe don’t believe in Norse mythology.
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
This is a country where people get to believe in whatever they choose.
Besides asswipe, do you know how much it costs the taxpayer everytime one of Bush’s appointments goes south. You’re suck a moron.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:28 pmFor the record, heathens can abuse the gift without knowing Whom the gift comes from.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:29 pmgooderservice, read an article that Kucinich wrote last year that the fund’s to bring the troop’s was alocated a long time ago.Now that doesn’t mean they are still available since all these guy’s in the black house are liers and thieves but read they were there at one time..No link sorry.Maybe some one else has it…I agree with your post….Blessings
March 29th, 2007 at 10:30 pmhow many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage?
Comment by Jake
Um..4.
Also, are you going to deny homosexuals the act of sex forever?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:30 pmJake sez:
For the record, I’ve never made a rape joke either.
You sniveling little piece of dog sh!t!
You’re actually going to sit there and deny typing these words?
Don’t worry, Gerald Gibson Jr ., the “rapist†will be done no later than January 20, 2009. Just lay back and enjoy.
Comment by Jake — March 18, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
Oh, yes, Jake.
We know your stance on the “Gift From God.”
“Lay back”
You are a horrible human being.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:31 pmJake:
You make no sense. Talk to me when you have something to say that reasonable people can understand. I’ll be waiting for your reply, but won’t be holding my breath.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:31 pmWhether you believe it is a gift from God or not, the question still stands: how many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage?
Comment by Jake
You’re going to lie about this, or ignore it, but here goes: You waited until marriage, right?
F*cking ain’t the problem, Jake. If we did more f*cking, partnered with cantraception, we’d all be much happier.
The problem, Jake, is poverty, hunger, inequality, war, lack of opportunity, greed, desperation, hopelessness — NOT F*CKING.
Look around at the whole world, not just your little piece of paradise, you selfish bastard.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:31 pmDear Viking,
Thor Rocks!
;)
March 29th, 2007 at 10:31 pmThe United States is a predominantly Judeo-Christian country, Viking — we don’t believe in Norse mythology.
Comment by Jake
Americans comprise many religions in the makeup of the population.
I personally don’t believe in your invisible man in the sky.
Don’t you dare speak for what I do or do not believe as an American you sorry Religious Bigot.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:32 pmComment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Now wait just a goddam minute, Jake! You’re posting questions to everybody, but you only accept questions from those not on your “ignore list.”
Does this mean you’re willing to play with the adults now? or do you still want to act like a junior high school girl?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:32 pmThanks for putting that up, true.
That was my next step.
We’re a great team. :)
March 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pm#17
March 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pmJake,
Did the kid selling lemonade across the street teach you that one?
(or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage?
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
What kind of racist crap is (or even just Africa). FYI aids is spread mostly by married men to their wives using alternative forms of birth control (figure it out) because they don’t have regular birth control.
What the hell are YOU talking about, you ignorant racist LIAR.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:34 pmHow many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage to experience God’s gift of sex? Comment by Jake
First I want to ask you a question before I attempt to answer your theoretical question (which has NEVER worked btw)
Did you wait until you were married to have sex?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:34 pmFor the record, heathens can abuse the gift without knowing Whom the gift comes from.
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
“Heathens” predated “Christians.”
Who guarantees you the lock on the truth? If I say your “Christian” god is a false precept based upon the word of man, how can you prove me wrong? Remember, you can’t cite the Bible, because the Bible, as written, is a perversion of god’s word, and was written by man.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pmYou know it, Zooey!
This guy is pathetic.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:37 pmComment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
*D I S C L A I M E R*
For all readers new to this post, pleae note that Jake is a known prevarictor of the highest order.
He tolls this site spewing lies fed to him from the Administration in the style of Karl Rove.
Because this is a Progressive site he is allowed to post here but his opinions are loaded with lies, bias and misrepresentations of the facts. If you should choose to read posts by this person please keep this in mind.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:37 pmAll the worlds problems would be solved if we just revoke peoples free will. [/Jake]
March 29th, 2007 at 10:37 pmFor the record, heathens can abuse the gift without knowing Whom the gift comes from.
Comment by Jake
Woo Hoo!! That’s what I like to hear. Oh lord if thou are a just and giving god. Send me three of those slave girls that I heard the churches of old used to sell for sex acts in order to have money to build temples to you so that they could spread your word. Oh yeah and smite all the bloggers whose names begin with “J”.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:38 pmor do you still want to act like a junior high school girl?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
…hey! Wait a minute!
How about a dorky pre-pubescent boy?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:39 pmBriseadh na Faire:
I hear what you’re saying: Silence (when he vetoes it), but politically, I’m afraid, that will hurt us. Silence from us can be successfully described by them as “non-patriotic.” My post referred to not only stopping this war, but dealing with it politically that the public will support.
I wish every Democrat just said: NO MORE MONEY FOR THE WAR, but I understand that’s not realistic and that we have to settle for the next best thing. I’m sad to say this, but we just don’t have the votes to stop the funding. We have to find the best alternative, I think.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:39 pmThanks trueblue. Thor will bless your hammer today.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:40 pmSharon:
I knew there were funds allocated for a “victory” party of 25 million, but didn’t know there were funds sitting there for our troops to come home. I’d like to learn more about it. I realize you don’t have a link, but I’ll see if I can find that information. Thanks.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:41 pmComment by Zooey — March 29, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
You are the best mother. Your sons are so lucky. If Jake had a mother like you we wouldn’t have to listen to all his bullcrap now.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:41 pmComment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
So now you’re a sociologist? So, tell us, how many? Which ones?
And, while we’re at it: How many problems does marriage create in our society?
Would you like to go back to early Christian times, when children got married (an arranged marriage by their parents, by the way) soon after puberty?
Would you like to see junior high school children entering into Holy Matrimony for the rest of their natural lives?
Without the opportunity for divorce, except in the case of adultery?
How many problems would that create, in our society?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:44 pmViking,
I used to read all of your stories in a bookstore in Harvard Sq. while waiting for my mom to finish work.
(Camb. MA)
It was great.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:44 pmYou’re going to lie about this, or ignore it, but here goes: You waited until marriage, right?
F*cking ain’t the problem, Jake. If we did more f*cking, partnered with cantraception, we’d all be much happier.
The problem, Jake, is poverty, hunger, inequality, war, lack of opportunity, greed, desperation, hopelessness — NOT F*CKING.
Look around at the whole world, not just your little piece of paradise, you selfish bastard.
Comment by Zooey
Can I Get an AMEN?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:46 pmHate is mans worst enemy, not love or sex. Power comes next for it corrupts as does greed.
How many problems would be cured if we could stop hate Jake?
Isn’t this what Jesus was really about?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:47 pm…hey! Wait a minute!
How about a dorky pre-pubescent boy?
Comment by trueblue
Yeah!! Briseadh na Faire, don’t be mean to girls!
Wow, true, your hammer is blessed. :)
March 29th, 2007 at 10:49 pmShane & Trueblue —
Thanks.
**blush**
March 29th, 2007 at 10:51 pmComment by gooderservice — March 29, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
Somewhere in America a mother, a father, a sister, a brother, is being told that their love one died today. Somewhere in America a mother, a father, a sister, a brother, is being told that their love one died today.
I saw the eyes of one such mother as she received the flag from her son’s coffin.
Can you face them and say, “we have to settle for the next best thing”? I cannot.
If Bush vetoes this spending bill, DON’T SEND ANOTHER ONE! LET THIS WAR END, NOW!!!
March 29th, 2007 at 10:53 pmFor the record, heathens can abuse the gift without knowing Whom the gift comes from. Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Doesn’t that make God pretty incompetent if he took almost 2000 years to reach the Americans, while millions died in sin and were condemned to *hell*? Pretty unchristian of god – don’t you think?
If god was so intent on humanity knowing his gifts, why were the millions of new world inhabitants unaware of Noah, or his *teachings*? Pretty obscene of God to condemn the world, just because he wouldn’t teach them.
Then again, the *ideas* of you right wingnut religious Taliban type always break down under *reason*. That’s why you hate separation of church and state, and democracy. Too much *liberalism* that breeds people that can think for themselves. Then there are the *idiots* like you that despite all of the gifts of this country, still sound more like an Al Qaeda terrorist – than an American.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:53 pmWow, true, your hammer is blessed. :)
Comment by Zooey
I am not going near that one, Zooey!
No,no,no,no,no,no….
Do not make the sexual joke….
(Jake won’t approve.)
March 29th, 2007 at 10:54 pmGood smack down’s all….Blessings
March 29th, 2007 at 10:54 pmHow many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage to experience God’s gift of sex? Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
How many problems in our society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved with education, and government support for women’s rights and women’s reproductive rights.
Sorry Jake, but the only *gift* we have relative to other animals is reason – a gift you apparently didn’t receive!
March 29th, 2007 at 10:55 pmSharon,
Hello. How are you tonight?
March 29th, 2007 at 10:56 pmI teach in a middle school. I’ve yet to hear the boys create an “ignore” list. So, I’m not trying to be sexist, just posting from first-hand experience.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:57 pmand, for what it’s worth, if my student’s had their way, I’d be on all of their “ignore” lists!!!
March 29th, 2007 at 10:58 pmCan you imagine being in junior high school, with a lawyer for a teacher? ya just can’t get away with anything!!!
March 29th, 2007 at 10:58 pmStewart and Colbert time…
March 29th, 2007 at 10:59 pmCan you imagine being in junior high school, with a lawyer for a teacher? ya just can’t get away with anything!!!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Yeah, I know how they feel. :-)
March 29th, 2007 at 11:03 pmI asked this before but does anyone know if this position is a Senate approved presidential appointment?
March 29th, 2007 at 11:09 pmGood Trueblue, Thank’s, and you.?……Blessings
March 29th, 2007 at 11:09 pmHey.
All of a sudden Jake is gone.
?????
Wonder why? :P
We all need to copy and paste to drive this abomination away, OK?
March 29th, 2007 at 11:10 pmBriseadh na Faire:
I hear what you’re saying. Can I face them? I may have to one day, as my nephew signed up last year. He hasn’t been deployed yet. But there just aren’t enough of us to STOP IT. We have to go one step at a time. Eventually we’ll get there. Will others die because we didn’t get there soon enough? Sure. Regrettable, it’s already happened. But to me, there’s no sense in holding my breath and supporting something that won’t take place for many months or years to come. I want to support something that will help eventually get us there, knowing it won’t/can’t happen now.
If you ask me do I want the majority of the public to STOP IT NOW, my answer is, YOU BET I DO. Yet I realize it’s not possible with this ass…. occupying the office now. I know the only way to stop it is outmaneuver him. The quicker the best.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:10 pmCan you imagine being in junior high school, with a lawyer for a teacher? ya just can’t get away with anything!!!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
It would certainly give me a reason to try =) And when I got caught I would say, hey that Lawyer in congress did it!
[Kidding of course]
March 29th, 2007 at 11:11 pmdlet,
Yes, it’s a Senate approved position.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:11 pmKeroack was approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Sharon,
I’m actually pretty good.
Things are looking up, here.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:14 pmThanks Zooey.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:17 pmI want this war ended now and signed another impeach letter to have bush and cheney out immedietly today…..Going to sign off all, long day running the Bear, doing laundry and watching over my dear old girl Hilda..She had cancer surgery on Monday and has to go back for a check up tomorrow..The vet did a good job, we baught her some more quality time…Blessings all..Hug someone, tell some one you love them and please do something for our country and the world…Peace
March 29th, 2007 at 11:18 pmBlessings all..Hug someone, tell some one you love them and please do something for our country and the world…Peace
Comment by Sharon
Peace & Blessings, Sharon.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:19 pmJake, you’re giving me one hell of a headache.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:25 pmI never needed your help.
If anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) wants to answer my hypothetical, I would be more than happy to discuss the hypothetical of getting rid of hate, greed, poverty, pandemic disease, illiteracy and lack of education.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:27 pmIf anyone (NOT on the “Ignore Listâ€) wants to answer my hypothetical, I would be more than happy to discuss the hypothetical of getting rid of hate, greed, poverty, pandemic disease, illiteracy and lack of education.
Comment by Jake
Your lame ass is already blown out of the water.
Tell it to god — in #70. He seems pissed….
March 29th, 2007 at 11:32 pmYou can’t ignore me, Jake. Just like I can’t ignore you.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:32 pmugh.
What did I say the other night, Jake?
Oh, yeah.
Be a man.
Answer the friggin questions, not hide behing your baby shield of an imaginary Ignore List!
Have some gonads.
Answer this girl, who is NOT on your list, or go away.
I DARE you.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:36 pmIf anyone (NOT on the “Ignore Listâ€) wants to answer my hypothetical,
People would just get married earlier and the divorce rate would become even higher than it is today. Married people cheat on their spouses and today are a cause of spreading disease just as non-married people do. Unwanted pregancies would still occur because of cheating. You cannot create a law to enforce no sex before marriage any more than you can create a law (prohibition) to stop people from drinking alcohol.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:37 pmYou can’t ignore me, Jake. Just like I can’t ignore you.
ugh.
Comment by god
One of your lesser creations, I take it?
Thanks, lower case god.
You’re cool.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:39 pmJake’s uterus fell out because Ms. Jake wouldn’t quick knocking him up.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:41 pmHow come Dick Cheney’s family can be gay and have children out of wedlock and mine can’t?
March 29th, 2007 at 11:41 pmIf you want proof that conservatism doesn’t work just look at Newt, Foley, Haggard, Gulianni, Jim Bakker etc etc… the list is long. Such is why conservatism is and will always be organized hypocrisy. It is a political canard.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:41 pmGood try, JetMech (although I didn’t see any “girl” answer before):
But, I didn’t say there had to be any “law” to enforce my hypothetical — which simply states that EVERYONE waited until marriage — who says that cheating or divorce would even be options? Theoretically, one sexual partner for life BY EVERYONE could eliminate HIV forever, right?
March 29th, 2007 at 11:43 pmDid you wait until your wedding night, Jake?
March 29th, 2007 at 11:45 pm“The United States is a predominantly Judeo-Christian country, Viking — we don’t believe in Norse mythology.”
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
I’m from the US, and I’m a citizen. I believe in Norse mythology.
Jake, you are not a typical American. You are a fringe radical rightist.
And a coot.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:46 pmBut, I didn’t say there had to be any “law†to enforce my hypothetical
As it was hypothetical question so follows the answer. The bible has been around for a long time. And as you said earlier 90 of American believe in a God or higher power. Then we can argue that religion has not cured the problems you associate with sex before marriage.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:47 pm* 90% of Americans
March 29th, 2007 at 11:48 pmJet Mech,
Apparently Jake believes people are automatons who live in a passionless world of his own making.
I had a friend who became a widow at age 23. I guess she’s SOL in the sex and kids department.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:48 pmSo you want us to believe that your very first sexual encounter was with your wife on you wedding night?
Had no idea what her boobs looked like – She had never touched you….
You want us to buy that????
March 29th, 2007 at 11:48 pmJake @ 14:
How many problems would we have now if we forced an abortion on every other pregnancy? Your premise and your rhetoric are goofy.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:49 pmGood try, JetMech (although I didn’t see any “girl†answer before)
That wasn’t me Jake that posted that.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:50 pmActually, JetMech, an “answer that follows” whether it would eliminate HIV would be either “yes” or “no” not to point out it hasn’t happened yet. Someday, it will.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:50 pmJetMech:
If you’d rather not answer the question, no problem with me . . .
March 29th, 2007 at 11:52 pmJet Mech, Apparently Jake believes people are automatons who live in a passionless world of his own making.
=)
March 29th, 2007 at 11:53 pmYou want us to buy that????
Comment by trueblue
Jake met Mrs Jake at Hooters, and she took him for everything he had. That’s why he hates women, and has so much time on his hands.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:53 pmSomeday, it will.
Comment by Jake
No. It won’t.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:54 pmi didn’t make Jake. A couple people f*ckin’ did. But i’ll let you
in on a little secret. i’m pretty d*mn tired of all the messages
he’s beedn leaving on my answering machine.
You folks think he’s here all of the time.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:54 pmYou have no idea.
Actually, JetMech, an “answer that follows†whether it would eliminate HIV would be either “yes†or “no†not to point out it hasn’t happened yet. Someday, it will.
Comment by Jake
No, you asked a hypothetical question, if you only want answers that you agree with then it’s not hypothetical. HIV won’t be cured by not having sex. It will be cured thru science just as polio was. You may as well say cancer will be cured thru not having sex before marriage.
The thing is Jake people will always find a way to have sex married or not.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:56 pmGuess I’ve been away longer than I thought, when did “jake” get religion?
March 29th, 2007 at 11:57 pmTheoretically, one sexual partner for life BY EVERYONE could eliminate HIV forever, right?
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Not exactly. Somebody with a compromised immune system could get bit by a chimp and pass it on to their spouse. But the premise of your post is so ridiculous Mark Twain was probably thinking of somebody like you:
“Such is the human condition that often it seems a shame that Noah didn’t miss the boat.”
March 29th, 2007 at 11:59 pmNotice how Jake exhibits typical pedophile/rapist behavior. As soon as he sees a new name he engages that person.
At 75 years old he’s had many years to perfect that winnowing out the weak from the herd. Of course as soon as he finds that person is wise to him he strikes back and gives up the “grooming phase†of the victim. After all if he’s not getting anything out of it why pretend to be nice.
So Jake is that how you “found Jesus?†Did your attorney tell you judges go easier on defendents who are “born again�
March 30th, 2007 at 12:00 amFor the record, from Revelation 21:1-8
March 30th, 2007 at 12:00 am
Guess I’ve been away longer than I thought, when did “jake†get religion?
Comment by Raven
Jake is assholierthanthou.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:00 amHave a nice life, JetMech.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:01 amTheoretically, one sexual partner for life BY EVERYONE could eliminate HIV forever, right?
Comment by Jake
No, you forget about blood transfusions, needles, drug use.
Besides, like bird flu, disease can make the jump from animal to human.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:02 amJake thinks he has it all figured out – My first marriage I lost my virginity on my wedding night. That was the longest two years of my life.
He’s such an ass-wipe.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:04 amHe who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!†Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.â€
One should never take dictation from a frat boy on a toilet.
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.â€
Comment by Jake
The dude that wrote that was stoned….
March 30th, 2007 at 12:04 amJake, when you say, “only one partner”, does that include goats? If it does, you’re going to have some ’splainin’ to do…
March 30th, 2007 at 12:04 amdamn, Jake. i’ve been trying to tell you that for years. you
March 30th, 2007 at 12:05 amjust don’t listen. you never have. you never will.
Uh oh JetMech,
I think you’re dead to Jake…
You weren’t even rude. Wow.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:05 ami didn’t make Jake. A couple people f*ckin’ did
Comment by god — March 29, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
Oh thank god, go. I thought you were losing it.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:09 amOh, my goodness!!! An actual ANSWER to a hypothetical question — I’m SHOCKED! See, that wasn’t so difficult after all. Considering how low the percentage of HIV from blood tranfusions, etc. is, it would be a GREAT start though, don’t you think? And, just to show you how grateful I am at finally getting an ANSWER on these threads, here’s my answer to combating hate, greed, poverty, pandemic disease, illiteracy and lack of education:
http://www.thepeaceplan.com/
March 30th, 2007 at 12:10 amHave a nice life, JetMech.
Comment by Jake
Are you judging Jake? Tsk Tsk
You don’t know who or what I am Jake. For I have spoke rationally and realistically you shall ignore my words? Do not think that you occupy a moral pedestal, for you do not and for your judging you have thus sinned.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:11 amJake thinks he has it all figured out – My first marriage I lost my virginity on my wedding night. That was the longest two years of my life.
He’s such an ass-wipe.
Comment by shane
If Jake had his way — you know, the right way — you’d be bound to your first husband for life. Like it or not.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:11 amI asked this before but does anyone know if this position is a Senate approved presidential appointment?
Comment by dlet — March 29, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
hmmmm good question.
Is the “missionary” position, a Senate approved Presidential position?
If so, does that make it a political position?
ok….it’s late, and i’m tired….
:-)
March 30th, 2007 at 12:11 amGuess I’ve been away longer than I thought, when did “jake†get religion?
Comment by Raven — March 29, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
He got two religions, one day he was Baptist, another day he was Catholic. But when he gets caught in lies he says somebody stole his name.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:11 amSo I guess he hasn’t really found any religion or conscience.
uh oh JetMech,
I think you’re dead to Jake…
You weren’t even rude. Wow.
Comment by Zooey
LoL, he can’t handle reality nor my rational. My inner reflection is near perfect and it baffles him to no end.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:13 amComment by Jake — March 30, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Jake why don’t you take your bible and stick it where the sun don’t shine. And if heaven is full of hate-mongering hypocrites like you, I’ll pass.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:13 amTheoretically, one sexual partner for life BY EVERYONE could eliminate HIV forever, right?
Comment by Jake
I’ll bet that eliminating all explosives would save more lives.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:15 amBlessings all..Hug someone, tell some one you love them and please do something for our country and the world…Peace
Comment by Sharon — March 29, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
ya know, I just want to thank you for always posting that….peace, and blessings, Sharon…please know that you are loved.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:15 amBut the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.â€
Comment by Jake — March 30, 2007 @ 12:00 am
please… you’ve never understood. you’re a stray.
Did you so note every time some liberal here called
the Attorney General †Speedy Gonzales� I didn’t
think so. Since I have admitted to that, yes, I did
vote for JFK and, being Catholic myself, I’ve got
plenty of funny Catholic jokes.
Comment by Jake — March 19, 2007 @ 1:18 pmâ€
“CONservative:
Southern Baptist here too — we are going to have to
agree to disagree that Bush is anywhere close to a
KING though (for instance, we know, worse case
scenario, his term ends January 20, 2009 ; )
Comment by Jake — March 26, 2007 @ 4:33 pmâ€
you’ve never understood. lord… errrr, i know i’ve tried.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:16 amComment by Zooey — March 30, 2007 @ 12:11 am
And then like Phyllis Schlafly he’d think rape doesn’t exist in marriage. Poor Mrs. Jake.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:16 amLOL, JetMech, I am not the One judging — I reasonably thought you were not going to answer my question, given how many times you posted before the answer — it is neither rational nor realistic to expect me to continue answering questions when I don’t get the same common courtesy in return — that is definitely not “sin” any way you cut it. Maybe we were just posting over each other — I’m willing to try again if you are.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:16 amIs the “missionary†position, a Senate approved Presidential position?
If so, does that make it a political position?
ok….it’s late, and i’m tired….
:-)
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Heh. It’s not that late…. :D
March 30th, 2007 at 12:17 amAn actual ANSWER to a hypothetical question — I’m SHOCKED! See, that wasn’t so difficult after all. -Jake
Your the one making it difficult Jake. And no you shouldn’t be shocked.
I know my God and have looked upon his face. That marvelous being of light. And I can tell you that in him their is no darkness and that he is like but unlike man. You however still hold too much bias and materialism in your heart and cannot yet approach him.
And that is truth.
Goodnite Jake and thanks for the link, In fairness will read it.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:18 amComment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
nope. not even in theory. you need to learn to read, Jake. there is much for you to learn, and not much time left, for you.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:18 amAnd, just to show you how grateful I am at finally getting an ANSWER on these threads, here’s my answer to combating hate, greed, poverty, pandemic disease, illiteracy and lack of education:
http://www.thepeaceplan.com/
Oh goody, JetMech was such a good guy, we got a prize.
Sorry Jake, if all that could be accomplished by a church, it would have been done by now. Cuz that’s what the church does so well, right?
March 30th, 2007 at 12:20 amZooey, did you see my #98 about Jake’s engaging of new posters the way a pedophile does. I wasn’t just trying to piss him off. That’s just a bonus. He really is creepy that way.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:20 amFor someone who is supposedly all-knowing, you would think that “god” knows the fake Jake posted about being Catholic?
March 30th, 2007 at 12:21 amAnd then like Phyllis Schlafly he’d think rape doesn’t exist in marriage. Poor Mrs. Jake.
Comment by shane
Jake has already demonstrated he doesn’t have much connection with reality. I can see him sniffing under Phyllis Schlafly’s appropriately modest skirt.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:23 amGood night, JetMech.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:23 amMaybe we were just posting over each other — I’m willing to try again if you are.
Comment by Jake — March 30, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Oops, Jake’s back to grooming his victim. Sicko.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:23 amAnd as you said earlier 90 of American believe in a God or higher power.
Comment by JetMech — March 29, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
Higher power being the key. Odin is that higher power to me.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:24 amno he didn’t. your hole is deep enough, Jake.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:24 amComment by Zooey — March 30, 2007 @ 12:17 am
Does that mean you’re still accepting applications? For the missionary position, that is. I mean, I want to be straight up-front with you, Mistress Z. ‘Specially as I know how you like to be on top of things.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:24 amZooey, did you see my #98 about Jake’s engaging of new posters the way a pedophile does. I wasn’t just trying to piss him off. That’s just a bonus. He really is creepy that way.
Comment by shane
Thanks for pointing it out, Shane. I had missed it.
It’s creepy how that fits Jake. And he just gave JetMech a little prize for answering a questions — apparently to Jake’s satisfaction. Ick.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:26 amHoly Cherystie!
March 30th, 2007 at 12:27 am132 posts and no Daryll? How lucky is this thread????
Abortion has been around since the beginning of time. Women had ways and at the same time remained true to their spirituality. To the Christian crazies out there – Do you suppose God added morning sickness to the first 3 months of pregnancy as woman would be deterred unless she truly wanted and was ready to have a child? A way of preserving the human race?
March 30th, 2007 at 12:27 amJake, I looked at the link you gave. I am slightly confused it speaks of peace yet you seem to back this misguided war. How so is this?
War is not peace.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:27 amMistress Z~
March 30th, 2007 at 12:29 amGoing in for lung tumor removal tomorrow AM
See y’all around next week.
Does that mean you’re still accepting applications? For the missionary position, that is. I mean, I want to be straight up-front with you, Mistress Z. ‘Specially as I know how you like to be on top of things.
Comment by Under Cover
Under Cover, talking like that, you better be straight. :)
March 30th, 2007 at 12:29 amWhen I was growing up, I didn’t think anyone but very young children believed that Christian fairytale. Then the internet came along and I found many adults believed it. It is utterly amazing that adults could be swayed so easily by such a myth.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:30 amJake has already demonstrated he doesn’t have much connection with reality. I can see him sniffing under Phyllis Schlafly’s appropriately modest skirt.
Comment by Zooey — March 30, 2007 @ 12:23 am
I’m going to have trouble getting that vision out of my mind.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:30 amP.E.A.C.E. is an acronym — although I truly believe blessed are the peacemakers — do you think FDR / Truman were “peacemakers” considering the lasting peace they acheived with Germany / Japan? That took “war” though, didn’t it? See you tomorrow.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:33 amGoing in for lung tumor removal tomorrow AM
See y’all around next week.
Comment by RUCerious
RUC,
All my best thoughts and prayers are with you. Take care, friend.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:33 amHigher power being the key. Odin is that higher power to me.
Comment by Viking
His name is related to óðr, meaning “mind”
March 30th, 2007 at 12:33 amIndeed, the path begins in ones mind. The light exists in us all. =)
Ick.
Comment by Zooey — March 30, 2007 @ 12:26 am
I know, today’s really the first time I noticed how creepy it is. Perhaps he did us all a favor by putting us on the ignore list. Now it’s easier to see how he picks somebody out and addresses them in a way so he can judge their receptiveness.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:33 amHis name is related to óðr, meaning “mindâ€
Indeed, the path begins in ones mind. The light exists in us all. =)
Comment by JetMech — March 30, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Well said.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:38 amJetMech:
Did you see my post and the questions I asked about FDR and Truman?
You reminded me of this poem, called “Light”:
On a mountaintop shines a light
Day and night it shines so bright
It is seen as far as you can see
Across the lands, oceans and seas
This light is an everlasting beam
To remind us where we have been
And to guide us to where we must go
This light exists in all of us to know
Few choose to know, others turn away
Only to be reminded of the lights ray
This light that shines so bright always
Is Jesus smiling face with all His glory
Summoning His children to come home
With open arms there is plenty of love
by Victoria Sparks
March 30th, 2007 at 12:39 amI’m going to have trouble getting that vision out of my mind.
Comment by shane
Mission Accomplished. :-D
Sorry Shane, that wasn’t directed specifically at you, but sometimes my aim isn’t too good. Heh.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:43 amWait just a minute — I looked up “óðr” and that’s Norse mythology too — are Viking and JetMech sockpuppets pulling my chain?!
March 30th, 2007 at 12:44 amJake, i am the one and only true decider. in this life, you
have failed. if you had only paid attention, you would know this.
i won’t be calling you home.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:48 am…are Viking and JetMech sockpuppets pulling my chain?!
Comment by Jake
Man, I hope so….
March 30th, 2007 at 12:48 amHis name is related to óðr, meaning “mindâ€
Indeed, the path begins in ones mind. The light exists in us all. =)
Comment by JetMech — March 30, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Well said.
Comment by Viking — March 30, 2007 @ 12:38 am
The most insulting thing to me is when somebody (Jake) tries to push their belief system on you. He was talking about Africa before but apparently doesn’t know how much better off Africans were before Christian Missionaries showed up and started destroying the tribal systems they had survived under for who knows how many thousands of years.
Odin is another I’ll add to my personal belief system. I like to have all my bases covered. Thanks guys.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:48 amDid you see my post and the questions I asked about FDR and Truman? You reminded me of this poem, called “Lightâ€:
Sorry Jake I didn’t see those questions.
Nice poem. I really like the light. =)
March 30th, 2007 at 12:49 amThis thread is OFF TOPIC. Like Bush, Jake needs to go too.
So as for the topic it would be great to put science based persons in place but it seems impossible given the fact that Bush is completely insane.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:50 amTwo words…
GOOD RIDDANCE.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:51 amSorry Shane, that wasn’t directed specifically at you, but sometimes my aim isn’t too good. Heh.
Comment by Zooey — March 30, 2007 @ 12:43 am
No problem Zooey – it doesn’t seem like anything hits the correct target if you catch my drift.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:51 amI looked up Jesus and that’s Christian mythology. I noticed that most of the people who believe in this myth are either very old people or young cultists.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:51 amGoing in for lung tumor removal tomorrow AM
See y’all around next week.
Comment by RUCerious
Best wishes and thoughts to you. Speedy recovery.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:52 amWait just a minute — I looked up “óðr†and that’s Norse mythology too — are Viking and JetMech sockpuppets pulling my chain?!
Comment by Jake
No Jake, I am speaking of a very real experience I had and I’m not pulling your chain. Jesus was trained by the magi in astronomy. Such is why he said I am the morning star, the bringer of the light.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:53 amThanks, Zooey. If you see Sharon on the thread tomorrow ask her to chant me a little sunshine!
March 30th, 2007 at 12:54 amI looked up Jesus and that’s Christian mythology. I noticed that most of the people who believe in this myth are either very old people or young cultists. Comment by bennet
Actually Jesus knew quite a bit about astrology and sacred geometry =)
March 30th, 2007 at 12:56 amThanks, Zooey. If you see Sharon on the thread tomorrow ask her to chant me a little sunshine!
Comment by RUCerious
I sent her an email, RUC. Sunshine coming right up. :)
Be well.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:57 amIn Christian tradition the Magi, also known as the Three Wise Men, The Three Kings, or Kings from the east, are Zoroastrian priests.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi
March 30th, 2007 at 12:58 amSo as for the topic it would be great to put science based persons in place but it seems impossible given the fact that Bush is completely insane.
Comment by Saywho — March 30, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Not to mention Bush doesn’t believe in science.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:58 amHe thinks scientist lie and politicians tell the truth, go figure.
RUCerious
We will all be thinking of you – only good wishes!
March 30th, 2007 at 1:00 amLet’s define a few terms up front too:
Pregnancy = fertilization, not implantation in the womb
Contraception = preventing pregnancy
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
Uhhhhh, Jake baybee, pregancy DOES equal (=) fertilization and implantation in the womb (otherwise known as the uterus). Biology 101… C’mon, didn’t you see those films in school? If not, here’s a Cliff Notes version….
Female, mid cycle, ovulates and emits an egg into her fallopian tubes, ripe for fertilization. Man and woman have sex in the biblical form and man ejaculates in the woman. One of man’s sperm searches out and pierces the shell of woman’s egg and fertilization occurs; locking all other sperm out. Fertizilized egg hangs for a while, in the fallopian tube, splitting the fertizlized egg into two, four, eight, sixteen, etc., cells until it travels down the tube into the uterus and finds a comfy spot. Once the zygote implants itself in the uteran wall, a placenta begins to grow; the source of life and the multi-cell organism (otherwise now known as an embryo) begins to grow. The woman is pregnant. If the fertilized egg implants itself in the walls of the fallopian tubes, the mother is still pregnant, but she and her embryo, are destined for certain death unless a physician notices the condition or the woman is admitted to the hospital at three moths under excuriciating pain. But you knew this already, right?
If you were my partner (and this is highly hypothetical), I’d have a sex surregate. If you are that stupid to not understand human biology, screw someone else.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:00 amGoing in for lung tumor removal tomorrow AM
See y’all around next week.
Comment by RUCerious
Best Wishes and Good Luck to you.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:01 amO.K., JetMech — here are my pending questions to you then:
1) Considering how low the percentage of HIV from blood tranfusions, etc. is, it would be a GREAT start though, don’t you think?
2) Do you think FDR / Truman were “peacemakers†considering the lasting peace they acheived with Germany / Japan?
3) That took “war†though, didn’t it?
4) Are Viking and JetMech sockpuppets?
As I told you above, it is neither rational nor realistic to expect me to continue answering all of your questions when I don’t get the same common courtesy in return.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:02 amNot Jake’s Egg Donor:
Did you know that, until recently, standard medical textbooks defined pregnancy as fertilization (regardless of implantation)? It was not until the PC “birth control” craze that pregnancy had to include implantation as well. BTW: ectopic pregnancies do not necessarily have to end in certain death for both (although death is always a certainty given the human condition, some unfortunately just sooner than later — prayers and thoughts for RUCerious of course).
March 30th, 2007 at 1:07 amComment by Not Jake’s Egg Donor
Since Jake showed up here, he’s insisted that pregnancy is at fertilization, not implantation. It doesn’t matter how much information he’s given to the contrary — Jake just knows better.
Somehow we need to re-work the miscarriage rate — in JakeWorld it’s astronomical!
I expect that soon Jake will advocate the arrest and imprisonment of women who turn down dates on Saturday nights — if she’s ovulating, a potential pregnancy has been thwarted!
March 30th, 2007 at 1:07 amComment by Not Jake’s Egg Donor — March 30, 2007 @ 1:00 am
You are SO ON THE LIST! I had one of those tubal pregnancies and I suppose the Jake-types would rather the mother died than have that pregnancy terminated. After all it is only the unborn life they have respect for. We brought up the 1/3 of pregnancies end in spontaneous abortion but since so many of us are on THE LIST we didn’t get a response.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:08 amthere is nothing “common” about your courtesy, Jake.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:09 amyou hide behind it like a sheild.
None of this matters people! Jake is not important. Go here
March 30th, 2007 at 1:16 amhttp://www.theoildrum.com/node/2415#comments
and press play. Shortages are on the way for this summer. Stop wasting time w/ Jake. It is time to get our affairs in order!
Did you know that, until recently, standard medical textbooks defined pregnancy as fertilization (regardless of implantation)?
Did you know that until recently, it was believed that if one drilled holes into one’s head, the bad humors could escape?
It was not until the PC “birth control†craze that pregnancy had to include implantation as well.
Wow. Birth control is a “PC” craze. And hey, the science advanced and improved, so the definition of pregnancy was perfected. Jake, you’re a moron.
BTW: ectopic pregnancies do not necessarily have to end in certain death for both.
Just how much agonizing pain does a woman have to go through before St. Jake decides the woman is doomed?
March 30th, 2007 at 1:17 amComment by Jake — March 30, 2007 @ 1:07 am
At times when you so clearly don’t know what you’re talking about shouldn’t you just shut the f##k up. Just try it some time.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:18 ami’m gonna miss him. he was funny guy.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:19 am1) Considering how low the percentage of HIV from blood tranfusions, etc. is, it would be a GREAT start though, don’t you think? It would be a start, but you know, as well as I, that human nature will override those constraints
2) Do you think FDR / Truman were “peacemakers†considering the lasting peace they acheived with Germany / Japan?
That war was fomented by these peacemakers. In the worlds history thats a blink of an eye. As you know the neo-cons are fomenting a clash of the civilizations.
3) That took “war†though, didn’t it?
War is war. Peace is moderation. Did we go to war with Russia?
Why not? Do we have peace with USSR today?
4) Are Viking and JetMech sockpuppets?
I don’t know who Viking is, I know it’s not me
As I told you above, it is neither rational nor realistic to expect me to continue answering all of your questions when I don’t get the same common courtesy in return.
Comment by Jake
I have been quite courteous to you and I have asked very few questions of you. If you choose to answer me fine, if you choose not to fine. How I answer questions has nothing to do with how I feel personally about you. I don’t let opinions about history taint my emotions.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:19 amComment by Saywho
We are on topic — for once.
Just sayin’
March 30th, 2007 at 1:20 amI have been quite courteous to you and I have asked very few questions of you. If you choose to answer me fine, if you choose not to fine. How I answer questions has nothing to do with how I feel personally about you. I don’t let opinions about history taint my emotions.
Comment by JetMech
You have been more than courteous, JetMech.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:24 amAbove and beyond the call of duty.
BTW: ectopic pregnancies do not necessarily have to end in certain death for both.
Jake about 1 in 100,000 ectopic pregnancies migrate out of fallopian tubes but they do not implant in the uterus. So if the other 99,999 don’t terminate the pregnancy they will die from a ruptured tube. Which is why up until the last 50 year women routinely predeceased their husbands. So are you saying you believe that this termination of pregnancy is also a sin – I think god wants to talk to you again.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:25 amGoing in for lung tumor removal tomorrow AM
See y’all around next week.
Comment by RUCerious
Of course you will see us next week. Take care.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:28 amJake seems to be proof that No Child Left Behind should be extended to adult education. If pregnancy were the same as fertilization, we’d have a lot of happy in vitro parents. A fertilized egg is not a pregnancy until it’s successfullly implanted in the womb. That doesn’t happen a lot. But relying on it not happening is not very good family planning. Neither is that aspirin between the knees. But then Jake knows that.
The cynical apointment of Dr. Keroack was the same as appointing a lumber and mining lobbyist to run Interior, or someone from DuPont, Dow or ADM to run the EPA. That’s just what this President does; Mr. Rove considers it a lost opportunity to do anything else.
That’s not government. It’s just rape and pillage modernized by an MBA, Karl Rove’s rolodex, and Ken Mehlman’s supercomputer.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:33 amSo are you saying you believe that this termination of pregnancy is also a sin – I think god wants to talk to you again.
Comment by shane
God sounds pretty frustrated at this point. Didn’t Jake say goodnight? Geez…
I’m sorry to hear you had an ectopic pregnancy. That must have been so painful.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:34 amTHUS DOES ANOTHER USELESS, UNQUALIFIED, IDIOT FAITH-BASED POLITICAL APPOINTEE OF MONKEY BOY CHIMPya BITE THE DUST!!!!! GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH!!!! HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!
March 30th, 2007 at 1:35 amHAH!
#177 Most people do not agree with Jake so arguing with him feeds his ego and wastes time. It seems there is an open slot once held by Eric Keroack. So since Jake has nothing to do with it we should discuss options based on that realization. If creationism is true it does not matter since there is the separation of church and state. If Darwin is correct then we are dealing with superstition. Regardless, creating children that will suffer in harsh poverty is the only option expressed by Jake. He can’t see that if overpopulation is not brought down through reason then there will and must be die-offs or EXTINCTION will result.
We have to do the worrying since Jake is finished regardless being 75 years old. Those of us with children have problems to face. We are running out of energy FAST and look at the mess things are now in. Again, who cares about Jake regarding this topic? He can’t relate, @ 75 he should not consider fathering at this late date and he does not know about divorce. None of that has to do with Keroack but this thread has gone in the direction of Row vs. Wade.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:43 amWhy not get it over with and ask Jake which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Why not get it over with and ask Jake which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Comment by Saywho
The shell. =)
March 30th, 2007 at 1:56 amI’m sorry to hear you had an ectopic pregnancy. That must have been so painful.
Comment by Zooey — March 30, 2007 @ 1:34 am
That was like 8 years into treatment to have my baby girl so mentally was worse than physically. She’s on spring break this week and every day I get to see how worth it it all was plus she’s 12 and politically active. She’s been in leadership for 3 years, head of fund raising – $25,000 to Katrina Victims, $12,500 to Make a Wish, and now she’s running for class president. Also she gets to go to state capital in 2 weeks to meet representives. I’m so proud.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:57 amIt is truly sad that Bush has such total disregard for any of this human service appointments. And every time he makes one of these lame appointments how much time and money is wasted finding a replacement.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:03 amAlso she gets to go to state capital in 2 weeks to meet representives. I’m so proud.
Comment by shane
She doesnt waste anytime. I wish I had again, say, 17 years, in order to do more and better things instead of picking my nose and laughing at the same time.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:04 amAlso she gets to go to state capital in 2 weeks to meet representives. I’m so proud.
Comment by shane.
You should be. =)
Politics are quite ugly today and it sorely needs an infusion of virtue such as your daughter holds.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:12 amComment by Juan C — March 30, 2007 @ 2:04 am
I’m 53 and still don’t know what I want to be when I grow up. She obviously gets it from my husband. But at least, maybe, we’re accomplishing something here.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:14 amIt is truly sad that Bush has such total disregard for any of this human service appointments. -Shane
George is but a spoiled child who never had to work, he has little regard for our troops and looks down upon people simply because they are not wealthy. It’s like electing Paris Hilton for President.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:15 amShe obviously gets it from my husband.
Comment by shane
I dont know much and it is not my intention to meddle in your personal life, but reading your powerful, daily statements here and the description of your daughter I think she has A LOT of you.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:19 amIt’s like electing Paris Hilton for President.
Comment by Zep Tepi
Well, there was already a Ronald Reagan, which is like a dumber version of Paris.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:20 amLet me guess…
He wanted to spend more time with somebody else’s family.
Typical quitter Republicans.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:21 amPolitics are quite ugly today and it sorely needs an infusion of virtue such as your daughter holds.
Comment by Zep Tepi — March 30, 2007 @ 2:12 am
Fortunately she seems quite liberal minded. I don’t know what I’d do if she ended up a neocon. The horror! lol
My Senator, Barack Obama, responded today to one of my emails to him about impeachment and ending the war:
March 30th, 2007 at 2:23 am“While I know many Americans share your strong feelings, I do not think that options like calling for impeachment of the President serve our ultimate objective, which is getting the country back on the right track.”
I hope he’s right.
Comment by Juan C — March 30, 2007 @ 2:19 am
That is quite a compliment – thanks so much.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:24 am“While I know many Americans share your strong feelings, I do not think that options like calling for impeachment of the President serve our ultimate objective, which is getting the country back on the right track.â€
Comment by shane —
It would be interesting to know what he means by serve, objective, back and right track.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:26 amI’m 53 and still don’t know what I want to be when I grow up. She obviously gets it from my husband. But at least, maybe, we’re accomplishing something here.
Comment by shane
I still don’t know what I want to be when I grow up and thats a good thing because I have done many jobs over the years. I love it that way!
Now I know what I don’t want to be and thats a crotchety closed minded single purpose old man stuck in a rut doing a job that he can’t stand.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:28 amIt’s like electing Paris Hilton for President.
Comment by Zep Tepi
Oh my goodness I have often noticed the comparison myself between George and Paris.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:28 amHave you seen the video of Paris talking about poor people and using the N word. You know if GW walked around with a video camera when he was younger we’d be seeing him act the same way.
My Senator, Barack Obama, responded today to one of my emails to him about impeachment and ending the war
Comment by shane
But you know what, shane? That thing you just mentioned, a candidate answering a citizizen´s letter would be unthinkable here in Latinamerica. That speaks volume about the political maturity of the US people. Now, what do they do with tha maturity is another stuff…
March 30th, 2007 at 2:29 amWell, there was already a Ronald Reagan, which is like a dumber version of Paris.
Comment by Juan C
If only Paris would take more naps =)
March 30th, 2007 at 2:30 amG night, people. Thanks for the words. :)
March 30th, 2007 at 2:31 amIt would be interesting to know what he means by serve, objective, back and right track.
Comment by Juan C — March 30, 2007 @ 2:26 am
All I kow is that I haven’t donated to his campaign yet. So far only to the Edwards campaign. These guys IN office haven’t really shown me anything tangible yet.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:31 amGN JC
March 30th, 2007 at 2:36 amGN Shane.
I feel the sandmans presence behind my eyes. TTYL =)
March 30th, 2007 at 2:38 amI was kind of impressed that Obama took the time to answer me, and of course it could have been somebody in his office, but still thoughtful. Gosh now I feel like I better donate. Frankly I think there is a very small percentage of US citizens who concern themselves with these issues. That’s no doubt how we got where we are today.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:41 amGN All
March 30th, 2007 at 2:42 amOh, one last tidbit Shane, seeing as we were discussing Paris =)
The US celebrity socialite Paris Hilton may face a three-month prison sentence for violating her probation by driving with a suspended license, a court official here said Thursday.
Hilton, heir to the hotel empire that bears her name, was stopped in her car by police in western Los Angeles on February 27. The city prosecutor’s office confirmed Thursday she had violated the terms of a probation for drunk driving issued the previous month.
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Man that Karma is not to be messed with!
GN SHANE!
March 30th, 2007 at 2:46 amDid anyone else notice that according to Revelations (#98), David Copperfield is going to burn in Hell?
March 30th, 2007 at 3:13 ammake that #99
March 30th, 2007 at 3:15 amMany abstinence-only-until-marriage programs discuss modern methods of contraception only in terms of failure rates (often exaggerated) and censor information about their correct use and effectiveness.
March 30th, 2007 at 3:57 amThus, many of these programs keep young people in ignorance of the very facts that would encourage them to protect themselves when they eventually become sexually active.
“The United States is a predominantly Judeo-Christian country, Viking — we don’t believe in Norse mythology.â€
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
- Revenge as basic behavior – Check
- Honorable death in combat – Check
- Looting the enemies’ country – Check
- Warriors honored at home like heroes – Check
- Pacifists treated like scum – Check
- A warrior chief as the leader of the country – Check
- Fighting for resources, instead of commerce – Check
- Traveling overseas for loot and prisoners – Check
- No remorse for killing enemies – Check
- Belief in a paradise that will open their doors to the ones died in combat – Check
- Anything goes in a war – Check
- Torture is OK – Check
- Divorce is A-OK (just look how many republicans are divorced, even twice or thrice) – Check
Jake, the predominant ideology of your country (or at least of your GOP) as of now, looks really nordic to me, and few ado with christian values.
March 30th, 2007 at 8:15 amFor the record, I am registered Independent.
March 30th, 2007 at 8:44 amRoyston Vasey:
How many of those “modern methods of contraception” involved destroying a fertilized egg? Would a 100% effective (meaning ZERO failure rate) method to “protect” yourself from pregnancy be abstinence? That’s not an “exaggeration” is it? How many teens are encouraged to actually become sexually active because they’ve learned how to “protect” themselves? Would you, at the very least, agree that parents get the final say whether to expose their children to your “facts”?
March 30th, 2007 at 9:07 amAbstinence only for combatting STD is like not going out when rains, snows, is too sunny, at night, when it’s windy…
It’s possible, but it limits freedom without need.
March 30th, 2007 at 9:17 amparents must be the ultimate authorities of when their children are exposed to the facts of sex. I believe it is 100% irresponsible of any school to be promoting safe sex when children aren’t mature enough to cope with the consequences of having sex.
as for adults, I believe it is wrong use contraceptives, but adults have the freedom to use them and I don’t think anyone should impose laws or regulations otherwise. Unfortunatly there are quite a few adults that want to have sex, sex and more sex and don’t want to pay the consequences for having promiscuous sex. This is the true reason why abortion exist and why contraceptives exist. We live in a society in which no one wants to take responsabilities for their actions.
March 30th, 2007 at 9:46 amFor the record, I am registered Independent.
Comment by Jake — March 30, 2007 @ 8:44 am
I’m a registered independent. Bill O’Reilly is a registered independent. Michael Moore is a registered independent. It doesn’t really mean anything.
March 30th, 2007 at 9:53 amThe problem, Jake, is poverty, hunger, inequality, war, lack of opportunity, greed, desperation, hopelessness — NOT F*CKING.
Look around at the whole world, not just your little piece of paradise, you selfish bastard.
Comment by Zooey — March 29, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Most of these problems would be less severe if people practiced a little self control rather than giving in to every temptation under the guise of freedom. We are human beings and should have more self control than animals.
The United States is a predominantly Judeo-Christian country, Viking — we don’t believe in Norse mythology.
Comment by Jake
Americans comprise many religions in the makeup of the population.
I personally don’t believe in your invisible man in the sky.
Don’t you dare speak for what I do or do not believe as an American you sorry Religious Bigot.
Comment by Wayne — March 29, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
The key word in Jake’s post was “predominantly”. You may not like it, but it is a fact that this nation is made up mostly of people who at least call themselves Christians. Whether they live that way is another matter.
Stewart and Colbert time…
March 30th, 2007 at 10:04 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — March 29, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
CC:
Thank you — did you also see the link I provided above?
http://www.thepeaceplan.com
March 30th, 2007 at 10:09 am- Revenge as basic behavior – Check
- Honorable death in combat – Check
- Looting the enemies’ country – Check
- Warriors honored at home like heroes – Check
- Pacifists treated like scum – Check
- A warrior chief as the leader of the country – Check
- Fighting for resources, instead of commerce – Check
- Traveling overseas for loot and prisoners – Check
- No remorse for killing enemies – Check
- Belief in a paradise that will open their doors to the ones died in combat – Check
- Anything goes in a war – Check
- Torture is OK – Check
- Divorce is A-OK (just look how many republicans are divorced, even twice or thrice) – Check
Jake, the predominant ideology of your country (or at least of your GOP) as of now, looks really nordic to me, and few ado with christian values.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — March 30, 2007 @ 8:15 am
Just because you attribute something to Christianity doesn’t make it true. We all know your list has no relation to Christianity whatsoever.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:12 amHow many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage to experience God’s gift of sex?
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Sex is an evolutionary “gift”. It’s a fact if you’ll turn off the cartoons and actually read something. I suggest Oxford Biology Professor Richard Dawkins.
You seem to be ignoring other facts – about marriage. The divorce rate of people married since 1990 is around 64%. Obviously the ‘institution’ isn’t working so well. Would you, after all, get in a car if you knew that your survival rate was only 36%?
The number of married people who cheat is also rampant. Fidelity isn’t guaranteed by marriage. But, if you knew ANYTHING about Science, you’d understand that sex is a human NEED, and you can’t stop people from fornicating. Well, apparently, unless you marry them…
March 30th, 2007 at 10:19 amThe United States is a predominantly Judeo-Christian country, Viking — we don’t believe in Norse mythology.
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
The United States is a Republic protected by the Constitution which includes the First Amendment rights of freedom from religion. “We” don’t believe in Christianity in this country either.
Thomas Jefferson said that a Democracy was little more than mob rule, where 51% of the population has the right to take away the rights of the other 49%. Therefore, we are a Republic.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:22 amJake sez:
How many problems in our current society would be instantly solved if everyone based their decisions on rational thought, instead of the scribblings in a book ostensibly written by a magic invisible man in the sky?
March 30th, 2007 at 10:22 amWhether you believe it is a gift from God or not, the question still stands: how many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage?
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
It’s not possible, because it’s not reality-based. But if it will shut you up – I’ll give you an equally delusional answer: NONE.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:24 amFor the record, I disagree with today’s L.A. Times editorial: “Congress must act to ensure that health plans cover prescription contraceptives for women” — where is THAT right hidden in the Constitution?!
March 30th, 2007 at 10:28 amJust because you attribute something to Christianity doesn’t make it true. We all know your list has no relation to Christianity whatsoever.
Comment by CC — March 30, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Christianity died with Christ. Most of you who claim to follow him ignore 95% of what he says because it isn’t convenient to you – yet you try to force others to live by those very same rules which you do not. Spread your hypocrisy at your church. They are the only one who will buy it.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:33 amHow many problems in our current society would be instantly solved if everyone based their decisions on rational thought, instead of the scribblings in a book ostensibly written by a magic invisible man in the sky?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 30, 2007 @ 10:22 am
Well said – and true! The evidence validates that the more educated someone is, the more likely they are to solve problems with reason than conjecture.
Religion is obsolete. It only persists because cowards cannot handle the reality of their own oblivion at death…
March 30th, 2007 at 10:37 amJake sez:
It’s an editorial you dolt. I’m fairly certain the editorial you insisted on posting across multiple threads yesterday isn’t in the Constitution either.
Idiot.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:37 amFor the record, I disagree with today’s L.A. Times editorial: “Congress must act to ensure that health plans cover prescription contraceptives for women†— where is THAT right hidden in the Constitution?!
Comment by Jake — March 30, 2007 @ 10:28 am
Hidden? It’s not hidden. Go READ the actual Constitution instead of going to Rush Limp-baugh for an interpretation.
You know the Christian church didn’t even consider women ‘human’ until 632? And only then, by one vote was it decreed. No woman with a hint of self-esteem should support an institution that reduces her to a second-class being, and takes away her rights to govern her own body.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:40 amFor the record Jake, more and more insurance companies do cover a portion of contraception for women. It’s cheaper than them having babies… Ironic, isn’t it? Your altar of Capitalism is facilitating birth control for women at THEIR discretion! LOL
March 30th, 2007 at 10:43 am“How many problems in our current society (or even just Africa) would be instantly solved if everyone waited until marriage to experience God’s gift of sex?”
Jay, I dare you to say that to a 2-year-old girl who is getting gang raped in Sudan by an armed militia. Everyone is sick of your racist comments. How old are you? 13? Why don’t you go back to church and let your preists do you in the a@@.
March 30th, 2007 at 11:15 amOk, try this again:
$1 says Jake’s insurance pays for his “get it up” pills, and he wants to keep it that way.
(TP apparently doesn’t like it when you use proper terms for these pills)
March 30th, 2007 at 11:19 amYou all seem to be missing the core issue here. Planned Parenthood launched an all out offensive against Keroack because he opposed abortion and didn’t wish to have federal fuunds going towards it.
This is totally reaasonable. I see no reason why we should be forced to pay for something that some people beleive kills cchildren. I agree with that ascertion, but even if you don’t it is pretty obvious that you shouldn’t be forced to use your tax money for something like that.
And before you complain about you money going to the war, I am with you on that.
Second, the whole abstinence only thing has become ridiculous. It is a great idea, but currently the program sucks. I work for a pro-life/pro-chastity group and can tell you from experience that the current abstinence only programs have some major issue with them. However, the message itself is working because people who veiw our presentation and go through our program are generally succesfful. Basically, it would be better if we stopped attacking the idea of abstinence only and started trying to change the already half-decent version some schools have.
This case also shows the “fight-dirty” attitude of Planned Parenthood. When they learned that he had a legitamate case to stay in office they decided to attack his private practice. Instead of soing something like protesting or legislaating, they looked over the public records relating to his clinic and found a minor infraction that the DA had thrown out due to it being so minor. Then they put a bunch of their lawyers behind it and decided to screw him up the bum with it.
March 30th, 2007 at 11:34 amJoey,
This is America, if we want someone out of an office, we can work to make that happen. Maybe we learned a thing or two from the rightwing slime machine? Maybe.
You say you’re “pro-life.” Good for you. I’m against the death penalty, too.
March 30th, 2007 at 11:56 amI bet they’ll be replaced with some dildo.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:00 pmJoey:
Good post. What are the major issues you have with abstinence-only programs? I am more than willing to work together to improve that.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:03 pmabstinence- only programs? are we living in the 15th century?
March 30th, 2007 at 12:14 pmted:
My calendar says March 30, 2007. How many problems in our current society would be solved if EVERYONE waited until marriage for sex?
March 30th, 2007 at 12:18 pmHey Sharon – tell Hilda, as they say in obedience school, “Heal”!
March 30th, 2007 at 12:21 pmHope she get better quick. Nothing is sadder than a sick pet! They just don’t understand what is happening to them.
I bet they’ll be replaced with some dildo.
Comment by ForTruth
Keroack or Jake’s pills? Heh.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:21 pmHere’s an issue I don’t see Jake mentioning:
March 30th, 2007 at 12:37 pmWhat about rape?
I was a 14 year old virgin when I was raped. Rape happens to 1/3 of all the women in this country, Jake. Yes, 1/3 of all the women you know. Think about that. Even if we were to be “behaving” ourselves before marriage (by your antiquated standards) we would still be f*cked as it would be a situation out of our control.
Sorry Jake, nice try at a red herring.
Back on topic, good thing this position requires a Senate confirmation – please write to your senator demanding that the position be filled by a rational, science-driven person.
For anyone else considering an abortion after rape: two wrongs don’t make a right.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:40 pm#221 …you can’t stop people from fornicating. Well, apparently, unless you marry them…
Comment by unbelievable — March 30, 2007 @ 10:19 am
Really rich :D
March 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pmSKdeA sez:
Actually, Jake has addressed rape. He seems to think it’s a suitable topic for humor.
That’s the kind of subhuman slime you’re addressing, SKdeA.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pmWord to the wise.
Comment by SKdeA — March 30, 2007 @ 12:37 pm
Soooooo sorry to hear that. I think about being 14 and that must have been horrible. Not that it would ever be not horrible – just worse to be so young. My heart goes out to you.
March 30th, 2007 at 12:57 pmFor anyone else considering an abortion after rape: two wrongs don’t make a right.
Comment by Jake — March 30, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Prove abortion is wrong… We can prove that rape is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape
March 30th, 2007 at 1:02 pmReally rich :D
Comment by Evil Spaniard — March 30, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
One of my favorite jokes:
Q: “What food causes women to lose their sex drive?”
A: “Wedding cake”
March 30th, 2007 at 1:03 pmComment by unbelievable — March 30, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
Q: But why is the bride smiling?
A: Because she’s given her last b.j.
Ba-dump bump!
March 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pmChristianity died with Christ. Most of you who claim to follow him ignore 95% of what he says because it isn’t convenient to you – yet you try to force others to live by those very same rules which you do not. Spread your hypocrisy at your church. They are the only one who will buy it.
Comment by unbelievable — March 30, 2007 @ 10:33
Show me the 95% of what Jesus said to do that I ignore and I’ll follow it. Oh, but you don’t know me do you> Come to think of it, you don’t know “most of us” either. So your statement has no validity.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:57 pmFor anyone else considering an abortion after rape: two wrongs don’t make a right.
Comment by Jake
You are truly and monstrously evil.
March 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pmCC sez:
Do you offer burnt offerings unto the Lord?
Do you refuse to work on the Sabbath…and kill anyone who does?
Do you stone adulterers to death?
Do you stone to death children who disrespect their parents?
Do you kill every homosexual you meet?
Do you kill everyone who doesn’t follow your religion?
(I could go on, but I think that’s enough for starters.)
If you’re not doing all these things, CC (true, I don’t know you, but I think I can safely make this assumption), you clearly need to get right with your God.
March 30th, 2007 at 3:05 pmShow me the 95% of what Jesus said to do that I ignore and I’ll follow it.
You mean you haven’t read the Bible to know?
95% means most of it. I think I was being generous by giving you the 5%.
Oh, but you don’t know me do you> Come to think of it, you don’t know “most of us†either. So your statement has no validity.
Comment by CC — March 30, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Of course I know your kind. It’s easyto know you because you do the exact opposite of what you demand from others…
If my statement wasn’t valid than you would have ignored it. You demonstrated my validity by responding.
“Out of convicted rapists, 57 percent admit to reading pornography; 95 percent admit to reading the Bible.”
March 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pmSKdeA,
I’m so sorry to hear about your rape. You are a truly strong and wonderful person. Thank you for sharing your story.
I’d share, but my son comments on TP every now and then….
March 30th, 2007 at 3:21 pmOf course I know your kind. It’s easyto know you because you do the exact opposite of what you demand from others…
If my statement wasn’t valid than you would have ignored it. You demonstrated my validity by responding
Comment by unbelievable — March 30, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Still waiting to hear what it is in the Bible that I ignore. And be sure it is 95%. If responding to a statement makes it valid, then just about every statement on this site, even those with which you disagree, is valid. All of Jake’s posts seem to have elicited a response. A response = validity. You responded to my statement, so that makes mine valid too, according to your statment.
March 30th, 2007 at 3:27 pmCC, are you trying to ignore my post #251?
(Be advised…it’s perfectly valid, regardless of whether or not have the courage to answer.)
C’mon, now…God is watching you…
March 30th, 2007 at 3:46 pmWhoops….make that post #253.
Here’s a linky, in case the numbers shift again.
March 30th, 2007 at 3:47 pmStill waiting to hear what it is in the Bible that I ignore.
Go read it. I told you already – I can’t paste the whole thing here.
And be sure it is 95%.
Why at 94% is is null and void? LOL!
If responding to a statement makes it valid, then just about every statement on this site, even those with which you disagree, is valid.
So? Your point?
All of Jake’s posts seem to have elicited a response. A response = validity. You responded to my statement, so that makes mine valid too, according to your statment.
Comment by CC — March 30, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Again… So? I never claimed they weren’t – that was your smoke screen.
March 30th, 2007 at 4:13 pmAll those in favor of a chastity belt for Jake-off say “aye”. Lock it up and through away the key! I definately do not want him to dilute the intellectual gene pool that I feel is his right to play in the shallow end of. Jake-off, please just drown and put yourself out of the collective memory to TP. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.
March 30th, 2007 at 8:31 pmToo late, rms ; )
March 30th, 2007 at 9:14 pmThank’s for your concern SKdeA, Hilda’s doing better this eve….Long hard day…BTW I know first hand what you went through but won’t elaborate on it tonight…You know I send Blessings to you and all in our large circle of friend’s here….
Rather he read’s it or not I have a little something to say to the piece of shit that call’s himself jake….You are one miserable black hearted troll with no soul..To say some of the crap you do here just for attention is truly sick, like one other poster alway’s says you are one sick MOFO…First off since you have never been raped or become pregnant from a rape you have no say in how IT is, if I wern’t such a nice person I would wish that evil on you but I won’t….You neither deserve our time or any mention, the only reason I am responding to your crap now is to tell you ugly evil stupid ass off…Be gone F*** Stain….
March 30th, 2007 at 10:35 pmThe comments on this page are indicative of the base, profane and low moral nature of the left….your religion is the earth and killing innocent human babies and the feeble elderly is your sacrament.
Keroack was a breath of fresh air….need a scandal? How about the billions Sen Feinstein made sure went her and her husband’s way while she was a committee chair? Get real nut case wacko fringe kooks!
You call for tolerance but are actually THE MOST intolerant, Stalinist, bigoted backward pagans here on this earth.
March 31st, 2007 at 12:03 pmbm, how appropiate the initial’s of your screen name…You blame the left, what a laugh you are as well as a lier .Your love of the reich wing and bull shit bush has caused over 700,000 death’s here and over there..Take your bm and spread it around on red state or one of your brain washed site’s, your nothing but a black hearted little troll here..You little nazi
March 31st, 2007 at 1:59 pmKick ass, Sharon!!
March 31st, 2007 at 4:46 pm