Waxman Reveals New Evidence Showing White House Use Of Political E-mail Accounts
Waxman Reveals New Evidence Showing White House Use Of Political E-mail Accounts
U.S. News reported recently that several White House aides “said that they stopped using the White House system except for purely professional correspondence. … ‘We knew E-mails could be subpoenaed,’” said one aide.
In a new letter to White House counsel Fred Fielding, House Government and Oversight Committee Chairman Henry Waxman reveals new e-mail communications that provide further evidence that White House employees were trying to circumvent the archives system:
New Scott Jennings E-Mails. Scott Jennings, the deputy director of political affairs in the White House, and his assistant used “gwb43.com” e-mail accounts to communicate with the General Services Administration about a partisan briefing that Mr. Jennings gave to political appointees at GSA on January 26, 2007. When Mr. Jennings’s assistant emailed the PowerPoint presentation to GSA, she wrote: “It is a close hold and we’re not supposed to be emailing it around.”
New Job Appointment E-Mails. Mr. Jennings also appears to have used his “gwb43.com” account to recruit applicants for official government positions through the “Kentucky Republican Voice,” an internet site that describes itself as “the best source for Kentucky Republican grassroots information.” One posting from May 2005 advertised 17 vacancies on assorted presidential boards and commissions. A second posting from May 2006 sought applicants for various boards within the Small Business Administration. In each case, these postings encouraged applicants to contact Mr. Jennings at his “gwb43.com” address.
New Abramoff E-Mails. Susan Ralston, who was Karl Rove’s executive assistant, invited two lobbyists working for Jack Abramoff to use her RNC e-mail account to avoid “security issues” with the White House e-mail system, writing: “I now have an RNC blackbeny which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security issues like my WH email.” Ms. Ralston similarly wrote Mr. Abramoff: “I know [sic] have an RNC laptop at the office for political use. I can access my AOL email when necessary so if you need to send me something that I need to read, you can send to my AOL email and then call or page me to check it.”
Asked about White House policy and procedures regarding use of e-mail accounts, spokeswoman Dana Perino did not cite any specific policy or guidance issued to White House staff for the preservation of presidential records, and she acknowledged that certain officials in the White House have been given access to political e-mail accounts. In his letter to Fielding, Waxman requests “all policies, guidance, and other communications provided to White House officials regarding appropriate use of nongovernmental e-mail accounts.”
The White House e-mail system has been crafted to comply with the Presidential Records Act. Ordering White House employees to use the in-house e-mail system “is intended to establish procedures for former and incumbent Presidents to make privilege determinations.”
The irony — as Kevin Drum writes — is that by not using the White House system, staffers “using private accounts specifically to evade legitimate congressional oversight” might lose their claim to executive privilege.
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It’s pretty clear that these jokers’ intentions were to circumvent the Presidential Records Act.
Too bad it’s going to come back to bite them on the tuchis. None of that correspondence can possibly be covered under ‘executive privilege’. ^_^
March 29th, 2007 at 4:51 pmIf there is no wrong-doings taking place in the MonkeyPalace, why the need to circumvent the law?
There’s smoke. And now there’s fire.
ITMFAs now!!!
March 29th, 2007 at 4:52 pmWow - using non-White House system may cause Rove and his gang of traitors to lose their claim to executive privilege… now wouldn’t that be a pisser for boy Bush… LMAO
March 29th, 2007 at 4:52 pmAOL email…
March 29th, 2007 at 4:53 pmIt doesn’t matter if “privileged” information was written with a borrowed pen on a non-government pad of paper — it’s still privileged — good luck before the ROBERTS Supreme Court though ; )
March 29th, 2007 at 4:56 pm[…] just posted this little nugget about Sen. Mitch McConnell protégé J. Scott Jennings, among other revelations: New Scott Jennings […]
March 29th, 2007 at 4:57 pmHow tragic..they fight Islamists but don’t send e-mails through the proper channels. Can these moonbats get anymore desperate?
March 29th, 2007 at 4:57 pmHey Jake do you post here 24 hours a day? What is your reward, traitor?
March 29th, 2007 at 4:59 pmLOL. This is getting better by the second.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:01 pmJake,
You might want to check your law books on that one.
It’s already been ruled on that email systems, such as the RNC’s, are NOT considered private systems. Ergo, you’re out of luck because they’re not considered privileged systems.
SORRY.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:01 pm“It doesn’t matter if “privileged†information was written with a borrowed pen on a non-government pad of paper — it’s still privileged — good luck before the ROBERTS Supreme Court though ; )
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 4:56 pm”
Hey nuckle dragger……
Once they used PUBLIC email systems, they LOST their “privileged” status.
That is why the government has a system of it’s own….. So that things can be “privileged”, and not PUBLIC!!!!
Want a bananna???
March 29th, 2007 at 5:02 pmTP / Faiz:
Why the change in your headline from “Partisan” to “Political” E-Mails?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:03 pmIt doesn’t matter if “privileged†information was written with a borrowed pen on a non-government pad of paper — it’s still privileged — good luck before the ROBERTS Supreme Court though ; )
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Interesting that the resident troll put privileged in quotes. He doesn’t even believe his own bullshit, yet he expects us to.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:03 pmWow! This is HUGE news.
Much more important than the Persian Gulf (of Tonkin) situation that is a tinderbox begging to erupt in a nuclear holocaust. Or the continued murder, torture, and terrorism the USA is performing in Iraq.
But not as important as Mr. Clinton’s penis.
However, today’s entertainment programming is dominated by the new series, “Law and Order: DCâ€. Today’s episode stars a trained weasel as the character “Kyle Sampsonâ€. In the episode Sampson has to walk a fine line between remaining loyal to his keepers while avoiding a charge of perjury. Riveting drama like we come to expect from this fine family of dramas. Notable cameos in this episode are the senior class from Mary Shill’s School for Stenographers playing the Washington press corps and a flock of sheep playing the American people.
Television at its finest.
And now for some messages from our sponsors, the good folks at Haliburton, Exxon-Mobile, and WalMart.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:03 pmHey Jake do you post here 24 hours a day? What is your reward, traitor?
Comment by Hector Garcia
Actually he only posts for two hours a day. He has a group of monkeys bang away at the keys the rest of the day. Trouble is I can never tell when its really him.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:04 pmIt doesn’t matter if “privileged†information was written with a borrowed pen on a non-government pad of paper — it’s still privileged — good luck before the ROBERTS Supreme Court though ; ) Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Where in the Constitution does it guarantee Executive Privilege again? I’ve looked and looked, but those words just don’t exist. As for you relying on the Federalist hack known as Roberts - I can see why you have faith in your fellow wingnuts. They don’t care about the constitution, any more than you do! You anti-american piece of sh*t Terrorist!
March 29th, 2007 at 5:04 pmHow tragic..they fight Islamists but don’t send e-mails through the proper channels. Can these moonbats get anymore desperate? Comment by Patrick1 — March 29, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
No one can get as desperate as you wingnuts.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:05 pmWhy the change in your headline from “Partisan†to “Political†E-Mails? Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
There’s a difference, in your world - “IndyJake”? BHAAHA, sure, you’re an *independent*!!! Independently GOP st*pid!
March 29th, 2007 at 5:06 pmOnce they used PUBLIC email systems, they LOST their “privileged†status. Comment by RemoveBush — March 29, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
When you’re as *inbred* as JakeOff, you can’t expect to be *literate* or *logical*! It’s all of those *OldEnglish* spellings like THEATRE dangling from his useless rotten old carcass!
March 29th, 2007 at 5:07 pmIn 1974 when Nixon was brought down it was because of an existing but not revealed taping system (thanks John Dean!!). I wonder now in the 21st century if the new taping system isnt the non-governmental emails that these asswipes figured were not subject to subpeona. The “christians” may actually be correct - there may be a “god” aftera ll.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:07 pmPresidential Records attach to the individual creating the records, not the medium of transmission.
There is a specific requirement on the individual to preserve Presidential Records.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:08 pmThey fight Islamists if they are sitting on the second-largest oil reserves in the world.
They do not fight the real perps of 9/11 who are sitting safely in Pakistan.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:09 pmDon’t these idiots realize that by using public systems, personal Blackberrys, and text-messaging, they are operating outside firewalls and they expose themselves to hackers? This is a serious security issue.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:12 pmIt’s getting close to the time to make some popcorn… put up my feet, relax, drink some red wine, eat some popcorn and enjoy this show. These investigations are having a snowball effect. Start seeking the truth with a couple of e-mails and the whole house of cards falls. Been waiting 6 years TOO LONG for this oversight.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:12 pmJake’s posts have an obvious masturbatory quality, as with his last post, where he essentially gloated about the malefactors’ excellent chances of getting away with it. Good one, there, Jake. Though it would be better to do these things privately.
Masturbatory activities, such as making something up in your head and gloating about it, are the essence of all right-wing activity. Jake is making himself feel better, because he just watched his party go from political hegemony to complete self-annihilation in just six short years.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:13 pmThis story is too good for us to allow it to be sabotaged by trolls so let’s not get into a food fight and just ignore their ramblings.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:15 pmLook what I found on FOX.com……
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262122,00.html
Sampson said he made recommendations about which attorneys should be fired, but “the decision makers in this case were the attorney general and the president.”
Looks like Gonzo is facing JAIL time…….
Hey amoeba brain Jake……. Still think that Gonzo did not committ Purgery???
Huh??? Do ya? Well?? What you say??
March 29th, 2007 at 5:16 pmNot trolling here, but the e-mails by now are gone. There will be a lot of smoke, but not a lot of evidence.
We’ll essentially be heading down the Libby road again, prosecuting a cover-up instead of a crime.
People will go to jail, but the perpetrators are too sure of themselves right now. And Waxman sending letters is not halting the chain of events.
Our best hope is for the NSA or CCA to have swooped down on Chattanooga and bagged the various RNC servers. And they would have done that to thwart and disclosures of classified info that could very well have been sent on those nets.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:19 pmWonder if the NSA has all these blackberry and email messages in their data warehouse. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the arse for the Bushites?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:19 pmPatrick1 and Jake, do you want our public servants circumventing the laws? There is offical email service and there are regulations around this. Why do you accept people sidestepping this?
It didn’t take six years for the implosion, I’d say 3.5 years. They had the world on a string for a while.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:19 pm“They do not fight the real perps of 9/11 who are sitting safely in Pakistan.
Comment by keith — March 29, 2007 @ 5:09 pm”
Actually…… They are sitting in WASHINGTON D.C.
No one, but someone in the government could have known what those code words were…… This is the tell all sign that 9/11 was an “inside job”…..
Fox News Sunday, 23 Sept 2001, Tony Snow: “Sept. 11 there was a report that there was a coded message that said, “We’re going to strike Air Force One†that was using specific coded language and made the threat credible. Is that true?
• Condoleezza Rice: “That is true…. I will tell you that it was plenty of evidence from our point of view to have special measures taken at that moment to make sure the president was safe.â€
• http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wpsrv/ nation/ specials/ attacked/ transcripts/ foxtext092301.html
Sept. 13, 2001, White House briefing:
• Reporter: “Can you confirm the substance of that threat that was telephoned in…that Air Force One is next and using code words?â€
• Ari Fleisher (Press secretary): “Yes, I can. That’s correct.â€
• At Sept. 26th briefing, asked again about this, Fleisher said “I’m not going to comment on any particular threats coming toward the White House.â€
• This matter needs further investigation, for such person(s) with top-secret information may still be a threat to the President and others…
• Tarpley discusses a large body of evidence and concludes:
“The official version of 9/11 says that the attacks came out of a distant cave in Afghanistan. But it makes more sense to explore networks and agencies which have means, motive, and opportunity, as well as a track record of advocating and promoting large-scale violence.â€
March 29th, 2007 at 5:20 pmRemoveBush - relax and enjoy the show… retribution after all these years. Good things do come to those that wait. :)
March 29th, 2007 at 5:21 pmWeb based email providers keep ALL emails indefinitely. The NSA email intercepting and spying allows us to search and investigate even their under-handed doings thru AOL, and will come back to bite them all in the ass with a vengeance, JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO NIXON.
Wow.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:24 pmFor the record, I actually think my “party” (American Independent, or better yet, a true conservative Christian party) would fare better if there were a GOP implosion and we could at least pick up some of those voting blocs. I’m afraid, however, my country wouldn’t.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:24 pmthe whole thing is very michael mann. i’m just sayin.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:25 pmPTF:
The WORST that will happen is what happened to Bill Clinton — impeachment but no conviction — at least Bush won’t get fined and his law license revoked ; )
March 29th, 2007 at 5:26 pmP.S. who does NSA work for?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:26 pm#20 - PTF
Presidential records . . . individual versus medium of transmission.
First you want to give us where you find that bit of law?
Second.
It has already been ruled that public email (corporate) systems are not considered private communication.
You want to explain your way around that?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:27 pmRe: #33…….what country did you say you were from?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:29 pm#35 Jake,
That burning sensation in your eyes - it’s “the light”. You’re beginning to see it, just maybe.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pmWell, TP has decided to ban my posts calling attention to that annoying little situation across the pond that we like to call the “Iraq War” and the fun game “How many times can we poke Iran before someone does something stupid.”
But, glad to see that Jake remains prolific and popular. You all are having more fun with it anyway. Rhetoric=Free speech. Calling attention to dire and harsh realities, well that’s just un-American.
Have fun.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:32 pmEveryone give Jake a break. He has the very common conservative problem known as the “Cat out of the bag” syndrome. This common disability among blindly loyal, cult of personality addled conservatives is noted for the symptom of being divorced from reality.
For example, squealing like stuck pigs about Plame outing herself in Vanity Fair after Novak has published it to the entire freaking free world.
Likewise this syndrome impairs Jake from understanding that once the dumba** Bush toady pushes the “send” button on that email and sends it out over a unsecure email network that it is open to capture and thus no longer privileged.
To put it in terms you might understand Jake. You can call your undies privileged but once you have forgotten to zip your pants and the color and pattern of your jockeys is freely viewed by every passer by you can hardly claim privileged. Perhaps another example, you don’t give your confession to the local parish priest during your graduation speech.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:32 pmImpeached for what?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:32 pm#37 It has already been ruled that public email (corporate) systems are not considered private communication.
I think that is his point. Since the person who was supposed to protect the information entered it into an unprotected medium all bets are off. It is fair game.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:34 pmRaven:
I am posting from, and I am a proud citizen of, the United States of America — you’re not on the “Ignore List” though — is that an oversight on my part?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:36 pmWow, ex-tuber. I’m sorry to hear that. See you around.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pmIt’s hard to imagine that will all the shenanigans that they did they still LOST Congress.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pmwe’ll all have a good laugh when a 14 year old hacker turns up selling Rove’s illicit emails on eBay
if you’re here to stick up for dubbie and t-blossom, you’re a sorry s.o.b. period.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:38 pmIgnore away, Jake! Ignore that beating at your door!
Ignore! Ignore! Ignore!
ha!
March 29th, 2007 at 5:39 pmPatrick1:
It doesn’t matter — it will be some trumped up charge against Bush — just like they thought the charges against Clinton were trumped up (except, of course, that he admitted to the lie). Just wait until the revenge extracted the next time a DEMOCRAT gets in office. All the more reason to VOTE THIRD PARTY!!!!
March 29th, 2007 at 5:39 pmThe last hope seems to be the “Roberts Supreme Court”, or else why would I have seen that one a few times by now?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:42 pmall that really matters is that we’ve got you on our “mouthbreathing idiot” list, jake. you just keep typin away though - it’ll keep you away from our kids on the school playgrounds.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:44 pmI’ll ask again, impeached for what?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:46 pmThis is the criminal mind at work. This is how the criminal works. Keep it secret and off the record. Gee, do you think they knew they were doing something wrong?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:52 pm#44….. I guess you missed my elucidations on the term “jake” referencing juvenile turkeys who are not yet of breeding age..
March 29th, 2007 at 5:55 pmThey don’t get any, they get thoroughly thrashed by the toms, and are easy prey for coyotes and such………not that I’m complaining, lots of carcasses for us ravens to pick over afterwards……..
For licking Barney’s balls.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:55 pmDon’t misread me here:
“…Presidential Records attach to the individual creating the records, not the medium of transmission…”
What this means is that when a Presidential appointee creates a record (on official e-mail, on unofficial e-mail, in his blood on a stone, in a graffiti mural) and that record relates to something specific to his or her official role, then it’s a Presidential Record.
Sending an e-mail on the RNC’s server does not not make it a Presidential Record. That e-mail is still a Presidential record. And by law, all Presidential records must be properly archived.
Here’s what most people are missing. The White House Official system is set up to automatically archive — to make staff lives easier so they don’t have to do a ton of copying. Using the RNC server means they have to do more work — they still, under law, have to provide a copy of the record into the official Presidential Archive.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:56 pmNo-no Pat,
March 29th, 2007 at 5:56 pmIf you can’t keep your Hotwheels on the track, you can’t play here.
Maaaaaaaaal feasance.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:57 pm“Impeached for What?”
Wher have you been? Lies to start a war. Katrina, torture and ignoring the geneva conventions, wiretapping, corrupting the justice system- these are just starters. How much more damage can these crazy, lying, corrupt people do to our country or the world in the next two years? Are you more loyal to your political party than your country? Depending on your answer I’d have to question your patriotism.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:58 pmBarney still has his balls?
March 29th, 2007 at 5:59 pmKeep digging. Every shovelful of manure that gets turned over into the light of oversight reveals another layer of maggoty malfeasance.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:00 pmjp ~ It’s hard to see with all that fecal matter in your face. But that’s the smell that trolls love to smell, what with their heads so far up their colonial territories.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:02 pmIf they’re using outside (the White House official) e-mail systems, then
what
about
national
security???
March 29th, 2007 at 6:07 pm#30 RemoveBush,
I think there is evidence to say the White House knew 9/11 was going to happen and did not take normal actions when it did. There is Mineta’s testimony about “Do the orders still stand?”, there is no response over 100 minutes when the normal response time is 7 minutes, there is sending the planes the wrong direction, there is the way the 3 towers imploded, there is security provided by Marvin Bush and an Arab company, etc.
There is PNAC saying the US should take Iraq for its oil but it would take another “Pearl Harbor”.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:08 pmRaven:
Yeah, I guess I missed those. So, you want to be on the “Ignore List” or not?
March 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pmRaven, make sure you fill out the form, with your reason and quote of the day…
March 29th, 2007 at 6:14 pmBush said it would be illegal to wiretap without going through the court.
Bush said he wiretapped without going through the court.
Therefore, Bush admitted to committing the crime.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:14 pmJake, I know I begged to be put on your paranoia “List”, but you have got to stop saying that Clinton lied or admitted to a lie.
As I have told you at least three times before, when he said he did not have sexual relations with her, he was using the prosecutor’s definition of “sexual relations” which did not include anything he and Monica did. A federal judge later ruled that the testimony was immaterial to the Paula Jones case, anyway–so either way it could not be perjury. Which part of this do you not understand? Just because the media says that Clinton lied, or perjured, or obstructed justice does not make it true. It is most definitely NOT true!
March 29th, 2007 at 6:22 pm[…] is an interesting way to potentially hide unethical and even possibly illegal activity - govt aides, advisers etc. opening private email accounts for official correspondence instead of […]
March 29th, 2007 at 6:23 pmYeah, I guess I missed those. So, you want to be on the “Ignore List†or not? Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
Everyone wants to be on your IgnoreList - jack*ss, and better yet, everyone wants you to STFU - you little useless piece of sh*t.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:24 pmOh, please no, Jake, don’t put me on your ignore list,
March 29th, 2007 at 6:28 pmI mean, how would you like it if everyone ignored you?
It’s why you come here, right, just to get some attention?
Raven:
I wouldn’t mind, so no. See you around then.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pmgobble gobble…
March 29th, 2007 at 6:35 pmre: 71
PROMISES! PROMISES!
March 29th, 2007 at 6:35 pmFor any lurkers out there:
You have to believe that Clinton did not kiss or otherwise touch Lewinsky’s breasts or other private parts — and that Lewinsky is lying about that — for you to believe that Clinton did not lie. We know who keith believes at least.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:35 pmSee, you don’t go when you promise to!
Kissing, or “touching a private part”, or receiving a bj, did not fall into the prosecutor’s definition of “sexual relations”.
Clinton’s defense team inquired as to exactly what the prosecutor meant by “sexual relations” before he answered.
Do you understand now or do I need to get two dolls and give you a demonstration?
All of this is totally absurd because it is not a “high crime” and has nothing to do with the constitution or the powers of the presidency.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pmIf I’m not already on Jerk’s “Ignore List” (how asinine!), I will be in a few minutes. This stupid troll is not worth responding to, and here’s a few examples of why I say this:
On the 3/27 Monica Goodling thread, which he hijacked, he said that he believed that every word of the Bible was from Jesus Christ, whom he called his “only King.” (Hmmm, Holy Trinity?) Even if one ignores the Old Testament (which should be ignored, in my opinion), he later goes on to ask someone “Have you read John 1:1?” Okay, who does he think “John” is?
In his second dumbest post (although he says he “never posts anything ‘dumb’”), he repeats Condi Rice’s dumbest statement ever, that, on 9/12, it became apparent that the oceans no longer protected us. First of all, the oceans have no longer “protected” us, basically, since the first trans-Atlantic flight. Second of all, has he heard of the “9/11 HIJACKERS”? They didn’t hijack the planes overseas, they hijacked them HERE!
That’s just two of many idiocies spouted by this lying adolescent pretending to be a 75-year old man. I’ll be happy to be ignored by this sack o’shit.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:54 pmBush = cold-blooded killer, pathological liar
Clinton = guy who got blown, liar about getting blown
given the choice, i’ll go with clinton
March 29th, 2007 at 6:55 pmFiring eight attorneys because they are going after crimes committed by Republicans or not going after crimes committed by Dems fast enough—-and then telling numerous lies about what happened is a crime.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:56 pmFor the record (I know I gave this to keith at least once before), here is the definition Bill Clinton later admitted to an “inappropriate relationship” with Ms. Lewinsky: “Contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.” Contact includes the TOUCHING and KISSING of said private areas that Ms. Lewinsky testified he did.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:58 pmre: #77 by Tom Baker
I shall try again.
No, Clinton did NOT lie. Getting blown did not come inside the prosecutor’s definition of sexual relations.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:59 pmAlso, I never promised to go — I said I would see Raven around — “around” could, of course, include this very thread.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:00 pmre: #79
I don’t see how you are contradicting everything I said above.
The prosecutor’s definition was coitus—what most people consider as “sex”.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:02 pmIt was never said that he and Monica did this.
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
He just loves to type all that lascivious Clinton stuff. Ewww!
March 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pmHe admitted to an “inappropriate relationship”. This is not admitting to “sexual relations”. This is not admitting to lying. Righties are always hung up on the fear that someone in the world might be enjoying SEX.
This thread is supposed to be about the Justice Dept crimes and lying.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:06 pmOBFUSCATE, PREVARICATE, HIDE, CONCEAL, COVER-UP, LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, SHRED, DESTROY EVIDENCE——-JUST ANOTHER DAY AT Bushland Uber Allies NAZI-SCUM-SHITS!!!!!
March 29th, 2007 at 7:09 pmIf anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) has any questions about this off-topic side debate that I honestly thought was settled long ago — BOTH Monica and Bill enjoyed themselves and Bill lied about it — let me know.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:13 pmHe did not lie. He used the prosecutor’s definition of sexual relations which did not include anything they did.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:17 pmTwelve months before Bush said in the State of the Union Speech that Iraq was trying to acquire yellowcake from Africa, the White House knew it was a very poor forgery.
That is why they had to discredit Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pmat the end of the day -
cool/good/decent people never indicted/have forgiven/don’t/didn’t care about clinton’s peccadillo.
bushie/righties are manson family cultists who i wouldn’t trust for 5 sec. in a room alone with my kids.
keith - I sincerely thank you for your effort to clear the record. Given the quality of objectors we see around here, you’re prolly wasting your “A” material.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:25 pmI’ll agree with “peccadillo”. That’s a good name for it. Sounds lurid enough for Jake to enjoy, too.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:30 pmYou wouldn’t trust Foley, or Gannon, or Haggard, or Rove with your kids?
March 29th, 2007 at 7:33 pmYou wouldn’t trust Foley, or Gannon, or Haggard, or Rove with your kids?
Comment by keith — March 29, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
If “kids” means baby goats then the answer is still NO!!
March 29th, 2007 at 7:45 pmnor jake nor patrick nor howsad nor happy guy nor valiant venus nor any other Righty.
Hippies don’t molest/kill children - Fundy/Churchies do.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:45 pm[…] even be aware they are looking. Ah, but if we want to see theirs, now that is a different story. Hell they’ll do all kinds of things just so that we can’t see theirs even if we have a legitimate right to see it and go […]
March 30th, 2007 at 1:16 am[. . . ] Contact includes the TOUCHING and KISSING of said private areas that Ms. Lewinsky testified he did.
Comment by Jake — March 29, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
For the love of god, will someone at the retirement home please slip the old horndog some saltpeter? He’ll be groping the invalids next.
March 30th, 2007 at 2:53 amFor any lurkers out there:
You have to believe that Clinton did not kiss or otherwise touch Lewinsky’s breasts or other private parts — and that Lewinsky is lying about that — for you to believe that Clinton did not lie. We know who keith believes at least.
Comment by Jake
Jake, I’ve generally been avoiding your posts. However, since you have taken it upon yourself to imagine what transpired between Monica Lewinsky and President Clinton, could you please tell us–or at least me–what you think gay hooker Jeff Gannon/James Guckert was doing at the White House on nights even before the Talon News website for which he later worked was set up and also when there were no WH press conferences scheduled?
March 30th, 2007 at 3:17 amBut look! They used the server to recruit new hires! 17 jobs on a political bulletin board? Outside official channels? What the heck kind of a federal hiring practice is that?? Please, when can we get the contents of the server?
March 30th, 2007 at 11:11 amGot to grab all the RNC’s e-mail and servers now before they are deleted!!!!! Waxman, Please hurry!
March 30th, 2007 at 12:02 pmOoopsie! There goes the ole executive privilege claim!
HAHA
does the phrase “hoist by their own petard” mean anything?
The best part of it all: The Supremes won’t have to rule “for” or “against” Chimpus Maximus on the issue…they never need reach the issue of “executive privilege” except to say that it does not apply to non-official extra-executive branch correspondence. The Court will never have to reach the finer point of deciding whether the particular CONTENT is subject to executive privilege, nor will SCOTUS need to define the doctrine any further.
HAHAHA
This will be fun.. … Popcorn anyone?
March 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pmOoopsie! There goes the ole executive privilege claim!
HAHA
does the phrase “hoist by their own petard” mean anything?
The best part of it all: The Supremes won’t have to rule “for” or “against” Chimpus Maximus on the issue…they never need reach the issue of “executive privilege” except to say that it does not apply to non-official extra-executive branch correspondence. The Court will never have to reach the finer point of deciding whether the particular CONTENT is subject to executive privilege, nor will SCOTUS need to define the doctrine any further.
HAHAHA
This will be fun.. … Popcorn anyone?
March 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pmSCOTUS won’t reach the issue of whether the substance of the communications is covered by the privilege because it has already been determined that correspondence to and from political committees is not privileged.
March 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pmSECURITY
Isn’t that the big word for Republicans? We are going to keep you secure? Homeland Security?
So what do these morons do? Use insecure email systems. Text messaging. Maybe we ought to run the Pentagon this way too? After all, the Commander in Chief is doing it!
To me this is the greatest breach in National Security in a long time. Worse, it was perpetrated by the people who are too stupid to understand that the internet is not a secure system.
What other information was transmitted? Has the White House violated National Security purely just to avoid a record of their actions? We may never know until it is too late.
Rove is no genius. He is an idiot. And he may have committed crimes far worse than the leaking the name of Valerie Plame.
Feloneous
March 30th, 2007 at 3:27 pmHey JAKE…
We’re certain that Bill “O”, Mr Hannity, Ms Coulter, “Rush”, and Fox would be going insane if this had been the Dems.. and it’s actually TELLING that YOU say;
good luck before the ROBERTS Supreme Court though
THIS is exactly why this information is essential. Even Roberts and Alieto WILL give in and not support their “home boy” (let’s duck hunt for two weeks, and then I’ll vote to DENY access to the “Energy Policy Board” makeup) “Big Tony” Scalia. They understand that WHEN (not if) the political winds change and they keep making the executive THE power in the US that THEY will all be out of a job…because they’ll get defunded by Congress, or impeached by a “Dem” friendly Senate (with the support of the same kind of “politicized” DOJ that we are beginning to understand is in place NOW. Good ole Kyle…anyone wonder about the timing of the “additional language” inserted into the Patriot Act that allowed these kind of appointments to take place in the first place? Mr Hatch, from Utah, had them inserted “outside of the conference commitees”. This would allow the US Attornyss to be appointed without “oversite” when the Congress was “not in session”. The firings took place on 7 December, when the Congress was NOT in session. Who did Kyle work for when he came to Washington…well Mr HAtch…of course. Who was Kyles “friend” and colleague in law school…well The Vice Presidents daughter of course…but THIS IS ALL COINCIDENCE!!! Right!!
March 30th, 2007 at 4:32 pm[…] National Committee. Ralston used such outside accounts when corresponding with Abramoff, even writing to him once, “I now have an RNC blackberry which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security […]
March 30th, 2007 at 4:33 pmWhat’s the problem? Are we out of handcuffs?? What’s up?
Just start arresting people for gawds sake!!!!
March 30th, 2007 at 7:55 pmThe Justice Department officials who were selected to be interviewed hit merely the tip of this iceberg. It is extremely important that the House and Senate Judiciary Committee’s interview John Nowacki, Principal Deputy Director as well as the Acting Counsel to the Director in the Executive Office of the Justice Department, in order to establish the links between the Justice Department officials, the US Attorney’s in the field, and the political operatives who helped remove the targeted US Attorney’s. I have gathered and organized every document released so far from the Justice Department relating to John Nowacki as well as background information on his relationship with the Federalist Society. You will be shocked at how many key pieces of information he gives to Paul McNulty, William Moschella, Michael Elston, William Mercer, Monica Goodling, and former employees Michael Battle and Kyle Sampson.
March 30th, 2007 at 11:06 pmThis story on John Nowacki, including updates, can be found at: http://misterapologist.blogspot.com/
I think we need to reenlist good ole Patrick Fitzgerald here to investigate this little AG problem. Though he works for the fool I trust him to get to the bottom of this little problem. Seems he has a personal stake too now in pulling this rock up so all the critters can scramble when they see light.
April 1st, 2007 at 8:21 pmordering checks
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April 6th, 2008 at 10:06 am