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Pelosi to Syria.

By Nico Pitney on Mar 30th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

Pelosi to Syria.»

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is set to visit Syria, a country President Bush has shunned, “despite being asked by the administration not to go.” “In our view, it is not the right time to have these sort of high-profile visitors to Syria,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters Friday.

UPDATE: Several members of Congress, including Sens. Arlen Specter (R-PA) and John Kerry (D-MA), have visited Syria in recent months over Bush objections. During his visit, Specter “stressed the importance of reactivating the dialogue between the United States and Syria to achieve security and stability in the Middle East.”

UPDATE II: Pelosi’s office releases a statement: “As recommended by the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan delegation led by Speaker Pelosi intends to discuss a wide range of security issues affecting the United States and the Middle East with representatives of governments in the region, including Syria.”




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92 Responses to “Pelosi to Syria.”

  1. Jay Randal Says:

    Nancy Pelosi should visit Iran too, but AIPAC and Israel would jump all over her bones about it.


  2. Real RedNeck Says:

    Go to NIGER instead and keep digging!


  3. Patrick1 Says:

    Going to meet with one of her handlers. Nice.


  4. Yikes Says:

    Going to meet with one of her handlers. Nice.

    Comment by Patrick1 — March 30, 2007 @ 4:40 pm

    Oh yeah like Rummy and Saddam, or Cheney and the Saudi’s.LOL


  5. whiteyfresh Says:

    it’s nice to see that Pelosi believes in diplomacy.


  6. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Alright Diplomacy, something Republicans know nothing about.


  7. Patrick1 Says:

    She believes in surrender we know that.


  8. Yikes Says:

    Real Redneck, Niger is in the pockets of the Oil Cabal so yes, go to Niger and see how that country has used it’s oil revenue to help out it’s people.


  9. kelso Says:

    “In our view, it is not the right time to have these sort of high-profile visitors to Syria,”

    And the Bush Admin. wimps feel that it’s NEVER the right time to go to Syria (Or to do anything really, besides f*cking up the war in Iraq!)


  10. Jay Randal Says:

    Pelosi is NOT even remotely controlled by Syria, but Bush kisses the lips of the Saudi King > I bet he got Herpes from that kissing > lol.


  11. Patrick1 Says:

    Will Pelosi take her white flag with her?


  12. hil Says:

    Is this Diplomacy? I hardly recognize what that looks like any more


  13. Yikes Says:

    Patrick is ignorant, we know that.


  14. Patrick1 Says:

    It is called surrender, that is what the left today calls diplomacy.


  15. Patrick1 Says:

    You think Pelosi will ask her fellow fascist why he murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon? Now that would be diplomacy.


  16. Yikes Says:

    Shut up or die, that’s Republican for diplomacy.


  17. Jake Says:

    Clinton never negotiated with Syria either.


  18. Zooey Says:

    A Pelosi thread is like a red flag for the trolls.

    Uppity Woman Alert!!


  19. pgw Says:

    “Will Pelosi take her white flag with her?”

    thought experiment: pretend you’re a martian who doesn’t think diplomacy is a bad thing. would you take foreign policy advice from the bush administration?


  20. Patrick1 Says:

    Of course Pelosi has no authority to conduct foreign policy (That Damn U.S. Constitution again.) so you have to believe she is going so she can receive advice from Assad.


  21. CONservative Says:

    thought experiment: pretend you’re a martian who doesn’t think diplomacy is a bad thing. would you take foreign policy advice from the bush administration?

    Comment by pgw

    I wouldn’t take, say, $8 billion from this corrupt regime if they gave me proof it wasn’t counterfeit, that’s how much I don’t trust this criminal cabal!


  22. Vinnie B Says:

    Patrick1, could you provide a rational explanation of why you think Pelosi is a Fascist? That’s pretty strong language. Please base your answer on the following definition of ‘fascist’ from the American Heritage Dictionary.

    “A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.”

    It seems to be a contradiction that you’re calling her a fascist on one hand and saying she’s soft on the other hand.


  23. Patrick1 Says:

    Do you moonbats think Pelosi will ask him why her murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon?


  24. CONservative Says:

    You think Pelosi will ask her fellow fascist why he murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon?

    Comment by Patrick1

    Morally or intellectually confused Patty? Couldn’t be, I know you’re a deliberate projector suffering from a severe case of cranial rectumitis!


  25. Patrick1 Says:

    Islamo Fascist would be more accurate. You definition of Pelosi is correct she is weak on liberty and the defense of liberty and from this trip a supporter of Islamo Fascism of which Assad is a card carrying member.


  26. pgw Says:

    “no authority to conduct foreign policy”

    thought experiment: what if you told a martian to tell that to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives?


  27. Jake Says:

    If Clinton would have taken a tougher stance on Syria, Lebanon, and for that matter Iraq, we would not be in the mess we are now. Bush is only inheriting the Middle East mess that he left behind.


  28. ForTruth Says:

    Diplomacy.


  29. CONservative Says:

    Islamo Fascist would be more accurate.

    Comment by Patrick1

    Republo-fascist would be hitting the nail on the head for you!


  30. Vinnie B Says:

    You’re saying she’s Islamic? I’ve never heard that before. Would I be an Islamo Fascist if I took a trip to Syria too?


  31. veritas Says:

    At least someone in this Congress has the balls to engage in diplomacy and dialogue!

    What are they afraid of? That Pelosi may accomplish something which Bush or CondiCandi couldn’t accomplish in their dreams??

    Too bad….too sad….but the people will rally around Pelosi’s sheer chutzpah!

    You go, girl!


  32. veritas Says:

    So the GOP is Christo-fascist….so what else is new?


  33. Patrick1 Says:

    A supporter of Islamo Fascism, like Pelosi.


  34. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    Patrick1 - another paid tool of the RNC and/or the Bush administration (is there any REAL difference?)


  35. Patrick1 Says:

    How is Pelosi’s view of foreign affairs different than Assad’s?


  36. veritas Says:

    Clinton….Clinton…..I know how much you sad trolls wish Clinton was still President - so does a majority of americans whom the Bush Cabal has taken to the poor house! That’s a given!

    Besides, that - in case you haven’t awakened for the past decade, Dumbya is president now! What has he done which anyone can be proud of????


  37. Jackie Rawlings Says:

    Pelosi is a leader and showing leadership. Not everyone is as stupid as Bush. Notice his Daddy’s people told him to talk to Iran and Syria. Bush is a liar and a thief and the world knows it now. Pelosi has to show the world leaders that we have intelligent people in our country. Look at the example of the White House now. Everyone lies or covers up lies and most play dumb and can’t remember. Rats are turing on Rats in the GOP and the world leaders see it. Even Blair has to now pay for joining the LIAR-IN-CHIEF. So while Bush gets drunk and smokes drugs Pelosi can try to get some respect back for the US. Karl Rove will fire staff and say he can’t’ remember it was the staff that committed the crimes and he knew nothing about it.


  38. patrick1s mental sputter Says:

    goddamn pat1 spit out all your stupidity in one or two posts will ya!?


  39. CONservative Says:

    If Clinton would have taken a tougher stance on Syria, Lebanon, and for that matter Iraq, we would not be in the mess we are now. Bush is only inheriting the Middle East mess that he left behind.

    Comment by Jake

    I’ll have to disagree there slightly. I agree Bush did inherit A mess, that place has been a mess for centuries. But Bush through his policies has made it infinitely worse, Syria, Lebanon and especially Iraq.


  40. Crump's Brother Says:

    Jake,

    Aren’t you fogetting someone? Bush Sr. I thought he had the opportunity to “handle” Saddam before Clinton, but like Clinton realized that a full invasion of Iraq was more problematic then using other regime changing techniques.

    No one “inherited” a problem. The Middle East has. for centuries, been problematic for many countries. Quit blaming Clinton.


  41. VerbalKint Says:

    Patrick-the-talking-point-robot, dumb as a bug.


  42. kelso Says:

    The resident trolls are working overtime today.


  43. Patrick1 Says:

    How is Pelosi’s view of foreign affairs different than her friend Assad?


  44. ForTruth Says:

    Peace.


  45. pgw Says:

    “Aren’t you fogetting someone?”

    yeah, the dulles brothers screwing up iran in the ’50s


  46. midwestblue Says:

    Pelosi should go. So should other Democrats. Somebody has to: Condi’s a laughingstock in the Middle East.


  47. Crump's Brother Says:

    Hey Libs?!?!?!

    Why are so many of you upset that there are people of differing viewpoints on this site?

    I’m a little mystified honestly. I enjoy the debate.

    Do all of you really just want to come on here and rail against the administration with no challenge whatsoever? Where’s the fun in that?
    Quit complaing and just debate them.


  48. Perry Logan Says:

    Go, Nancy! Get out there and start rebuilding some of the bridges the wingnuts have burned.


  49. lw Says:

    It’s informative to notice how, to a Republican, talking with people = surrendering to them. These folks need some heavy-duty counseling.

    To my moral values, talking is better than bombing. Apparently Republican moral values are quite different.


  50. pgw Says:

    “How is Pelosi’s view of foreign affairs different than her friend Assad?”

    for one thing, Assad quotes from Charles Krauthammer instead of thinking.


  51. Patrick1 Says:

    What do you talk to Assad about? What is the benefit to the United States by talking with a guy who murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon?

    This looks like another example of the left’s love of style over substance.


  52. alp3 Says:

    If Clinton would have taken a tougher stance on Syria, Lebanon, and for that matter Iraq, we would not be in the mess we are now. Bush is only inheriting the Middle East mess that he left behind.

    Comment by Jake

    from dad?


  53. pgw Says:

    “This looks like another example of the left’s love of style over substance.”

    two words: ahmed chalabi


  54. Vinnie B Says:

    From TP: “Several members of Congress, including Sens. Arlen Specter (R-PA) and John Kerry (D-MA), have visited Syria in recent months over Bush objections.”

    By Patrick1’s logic, Specter is also an Islamo Fascist.

    Patrick1, you’ve put the capital ‘I’ in Ignorant troll. You in no way backed up your claim that Pelosi was a fascist which shows that your post is little more than grade school name calling.


  55. Angry One Says:

    Today’s announcement that a Congressional delegation led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will meet with Syrian President Bashir Al-Assad during a four nation Middle East swing was sure to raise the ire of the White House. But because the bipartisan group includes the Muslim Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, the predictable conservative catcalls of treason are also almost sure to follow.

    For the details, see:
    “Keith Ellison, Syria and the Coming Conservative Smear.”


  56. Juan C Says:

    It is called surrender, that is what the left today calls diplomacy.
    Comment by Patrick1

    Erection problems are the cause of violent and anger behaviors.


  57. Patrick1 Says:

    You stated the definition of fascism correctly. Pelosi supports and enables a brand of Islam that is facist. The person she is going to see to get advice is a fascist. He leads a fascist regime that recently murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon.

    Nancy Pelosi is weak on liberty and the defense of liberty and is in favor of the control of the state over the lives of the citizens. She doesn’t believe the United States is worth defending and has even taken the extreme position of supporting America’s enemies.

    Spector is another one of these Republicans that is more concerned with what the New York Times and Washington Post write about them in their editorials than they are with American national security.


  58. Patrick1 Says:

    Syria supports Hezbollah, the terrorist organization which has killed more Americans than any other in history except for Al Qaeda. Syria is also complicit in helping Iran supply rockets to Hezbollah which were recently used against Israel. In addition Syria allows foreign fighters through its borders into western Iraq. I guess all that doesn’t bother Pelosi.

    The Speaker’s visit can only send a mixed message regarding U.S. policy. The message that America is divided, not united in fighting the war on terror.


  59. Vinnie B Says:

    Where did it say Pelosi was ‘getting advice’ from Assad? By your logic, Cheney is a Wahhabist since he visited with Saudi Arabian offiials.

    Saying that she support America’s enemies is another alarmist tactic to your childish arguments. Can you provide one real piece of evidence to support your allegations of treason?

    Can you provide a list of the Republicans besides Spector who are Islamo Fascists? That would be good to know.


  60. Patrick1 Says:

    Since Syria is a client state of Iran, can we work out a hostage trade? Iran releases the 15 Brits, they can keep Miss Nancy. If the time comes when they want to us to take her back, we could demand the heads of Hezbollah and Hamas, the defunding of all terror operations.


  61. Patrick1 Says:

    She recently passed legislation that would require the United States to surrender its position in Iraq to Al Qaeda, do you need other examples?


  62. Patrick1 Says:

    Spector is not an Islamo Fascist, he is a useful idiot.


  63. chimpeach Says:

    #7 Patrick1

    She believes in surrender we know that.

    No, Patrick. This is what grownups do. They talk to people. Immature little jerks like Bush are afraid to talk to someone who may not already be in agreement with them.

    Remember back when Reagan had arms talks with the Soviet Union? That was what we grownups call “negotiating”. Only a brain damaged little neo-tard would call it surrender. And what came out of that “negotiating”, Patrick? Disarmament. Ooh, that’s a big word. Can you say it?


  64. Vinnie B Says:

    Saudi Arabia supports Wahabism, which holds the Koran, not the Bible, as the fundamentalist text. This religious sect gave birth to Osama Bin-Laden, who has killed more Americans than any other in history. Saudi Arabia is undemocratic as they hold no elections and consider the Koran as their constitution. Their legal system allows people’s arms to be cut off for robbery. In addition, the United Nations Convention against Torture criticized Saudi Arabia for these atrocities. I guess all that doesn’t bother Cheney.

    Cheney’s visit can only send a mixed message regarding U.S. policy. The message that America supports nations that won’t hold elections, that we care more about oil than human rights, that we want to be friends with the country where 19 of the 20 9/11 hijackers came from.


  65. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    Nancy Pelosi is weak on liberty and the defense of liberty and is in favor of the control of the state over the lives of the citizens.

    Comment by Patrick1 — March 30, 2007 @ 5:35 pm

    1) FBI: National Security Letters - between 2003 and 2005 the FBI issued more than 140,000 specific demands under this provision — demands issued without a showing of probable cause or prior judicial approval — to obtain potentially sensitive information about U.S. citizens and residents.

    2) NSA “terrorist survellience program.” The privacy of all Americans is fiercely protected in all our activities,” Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. “The government does not listen to domestic phone calls without court approval. We are not trolling through the personal lives of millions of innocent Americans.”

    Bush’s broadcast comes two days after news reports revealed the ultra-secret National Security Agency was collecting the phone records of tens of millions of Americans.

    USA TODAY reported Thursday that the NSA was building a database with the help of three major U.S. telephone companies — a revelation that highlights the problem of balancing American civil liberties with efforts to protect citizens from terrorist attacks.

    The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy concerns surveillance of United States persons incident to the collection of foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of the war on terror. Under this program, referred to by the Bush administration as the “terrorist surveillance program”,[1] the NSA is authorized by executive order to monitor phone calls and other communication originating from parties outside the US with known or suspected links to al Qaeda, even if the terminus of that communication lies within the US. Critics contend that such “domestic” intercepts require FISC authorization under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,[2] while the Bush administration maintains that the authorized intercepts are not domestic but rather “foreign intelligence” integral to the conduct of war and that the warrant requirements of FISA were implicitly superseded by the subsequent passage of the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF).[3]

    3) Amendment IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    4) President Bush has claimed the power to open people’s mail without a judicial warrant, news reports last week revealed.

    The White House claim of new presidential powers was made quietly two weeks earlier, when Bush issued a “signing statement” as he initialed the new Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act on December 20, during the congressional winter recess.

    Patrick, which version of America do you support of the four choices above? Which of the four choices above do you define as being “strong on liberty and the defense of liberty?” Which of the four choices above do you define as the state intruding on the freedoms of our citizens?


  66. Not Canadian Says:

    do you need other examples?

    Comment by Patrick1

    No, we can already tell that your panties are in a wad.


  67. Vinnie B Says:

    “She recently passed legislation that would require the United States to surrender its position in Iraq to Al Qaeda, do you need other examples?”

    So you admit that Al Qaeda is in charge of Iraq? I thought your hero Bushie said something about a government being in charge. Yeah, they supposedly have an army and everything.


  68. Juan C Says:

    we could demand the heads of Hezbollah and Hamas, the defunding of all terror operations.
    Comment by Patrick1

    Must have been so sad for you when the Berlin Wall came down. You were left without enemies to fear. Good thing terrorists appeared once communists were gone.


  69. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Hey Libs?!?!?!

    Why are so many of you upset that there are people of differing viewpoints on this site?

    I’m a little mystified honestly. I enjoy the debate.

    You are a fu*king retard if you think that trolling is debate.


  70. seth Says:

    F*ck Jake and Patrick- they are only taking away from this great site.

    If we all just agree to not even address what they are being paid to write- they will eventually get fired for not drumming up enough frustration from the posters on this site.

    Once again, F#ck those 2 hateful A$$holes.


  71. seth Says:

    #

    F*ck Jake and Patrick- they are only taking away from this great site.

    If we all just agree to not even address what they are being paid to write- they will eventually get fired for not drumming up enough frustration from the posters on this site.

    Once again, F#ck those 2 hateful A$$holes.


  72. Bluedog49 Says:

    Jake the Joke: “Clinton never negotiated with Syria either.”

    From CNN:
    December 16, 1999
    Web posted at: 4:17 p.m. EST (2117 GMT)

    From staff and wire reports

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — Proclaiming “a new beginning” for Mideast peace, President Clinton announced on Thursday that Israel and Syria will resume “intensive” negotiations near Washington on January 3.

    “The journey will be tough,” Clinton said Thursday at the close of two days of talks between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa.

    Clinton said both sides could count on the United States “every step of the way.”


  73. Bluedog49 Says:

    Little Patrick’s take on Pelosi: “weak on liberty and the defense of liberty…”

    United Iraq and Afganistan Veterans of America’s grade on Pelosi’s record in supporting the troops: B+

    Patrick, we have a disagreement here.


  74. SKdeA Says:

    Erection problems are the cause of violent and anger behaviors.
    Comment by Juan C — March 30, 2007 @ 5:29 pm

    Election problems are the cause of violent and anger behaviors. My country obviously needs therapy…


  75. greggp Says:

    Sounds like a good idea for her to go. That way, maybe the world will see that not all American women in positions of authority are feckless incompetents like Condoleeza Rice and Karen Hughes.


  76. Bluedog49 Says:

    It’s important for the leaders of Syria to know that the American public has many representatives in Congress who are capable of diplomacy and are not war mongers. It’s important that they know that Bush and his crew of incompetent ideologues will not be controlling the Executive branch forever.


  77. CONservative Says:

    She recently passed legislation that would require the United States to surrender its position in Iraq to Al Qaeda, do you need other examples?

    Comment by Patrick1

    Your complete and utter stupidity is not worth my time in responding. Heck it’s not even worth the rolling of my eyes.


  78. CONservative Says:

    She recently passed legislation that would require the United States to surrender its position in Iraq to Al Qaeda, do you need other examples?

    Comment by Patrick1

    Your complete and utter stupidity is not worth my time in acknowledging. Heck it’s not even worth the rolling of my eyes.


  79. CONservative Says:

    Sorry, didn’t mean to post it twice, the site told me it didn’t accept the first one so I changed a word and hit post again.


  80. theswan Says:

    She maybe a diplomat, the likes the repubicans would just love to have.
    Go you Girl!


  81. Democratic supermajority 2008 Says:

    Oh man I love it. From the most recent thread on TP:

    Exclusive: Republican Delegation Currently Visiting Syria, Spared From White House Attacks

    What a bunch of ultra-politicizing monkeys! If the Bush admin. put forth even a tiny fraction of the time that they spend worrying about polls and politics we would be so much better off as a country.

    Oh well. Come ‘08 they can all pack their bags and go home so that grown ups can come in and pick up after them.


  82. Yikes Says:

    #

    What do you talk to Assad about? What is the benefit to the United States by talking with a guy who murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon?

    This looks like another example of the left’s love of style over substance.

    Comment by Patrick1 — March 30, 2007 @ 5:18 pm

    Ask Sens. Arlen Specter what he talked about. He was there recently.

    You stated the definition of fascism correctly. Pelosi supports and enables a brand of Islam that is facist. The person she is going to see to get advice is a fascist. He leads a fascist regime that recently murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon.

    Shit man, other repukes are there as well. Give up, you just have to accept that being a loser isn’t all bad if you just keep it to yourself.


  83. Raymond Funamoto Says:

    MADAME SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI TO GEORGE W. BUSH:
    “Listen MONKEY-BOY, YOU DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!
    ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES, SO PUT THAT IN YOUR
    CRACK-PIPE WITH YA BUTT-BOYS AND BLOG TROLLS AND SMOKE
    IT, LAME-BRAIN!!!!!”


  84. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Says:

    This looks like another example of the left’s love of style over substance. Comment by Patrick1 — March 30, 2007 @ 5:18 pm

    That’s what psychologists call a “Projection” - j*ck*ss. On that note, go see one. You’re one f*cked up little piece of work!


  85. bujeeboo Says:

    You have to feel a little sorry for Patrick. His head is so far and firmly up his ass, he’s oxygen deprived.

    I’ll make this really simple for a simp like you Patrick. There comes a time in every conflict (the one we are referring to here is the war), where things are solved politically and diplomatically, not militarily. We tried it your way, and Bush and his rubber stamp Congress blew it, so Pelosi and others are willing to try the Iraq Study Group’s approach.

    But hey, if you can get your head our from colon, they might take you in the military. Please. Go. Volunteer. SACRIFICE!!


  86. Jason Baddo Says:

    Folks,

    AIPAC rubber stamped it..so its ok, America’s foreign policy is just fine in the
    hands of traitors


  87. VCD Says:

    Actions not words are all that we need. Can’t say we have the answers but doing something about the education of Muslim youth is a place to start.


  88. Ames Tiedeman Says:

    Nancy Pelosi should go back home and bake cookies….in San Francisco!

    The U.S. State Department runs foreign policy. Life long beaurocrats and the administration run foreign policy, not the Speaker of the House. Pelosi is a vile disgrace. All of you brainless liberals remember this:

    As much as Newt Gingich hated Clinton and his policies toward North Korea and Kosovo, he did not go to these countries and try to play match maker or savior, when he was the Speaker. Pelosi is trying to do both in Syria. She is a disgrace….

    Pelosi is nothing more than a vile piece of human filth.


  89. Shai Says:

    This is absurd. The Israelis asked Pelosi to forward a message of non-belligerency to Assad. Conservatives don’t be so reactionary.


  90. D manley Says:

    I hope she stays there!


  91. JG Alter Says:

    You people are so filled with hate and disrespect for one another that it is obvious that the settlement of your opinions will only occur face to face on the battlefield (if you have the balls to leave your cybernook and face the real world). Otherwise your posts are pure blather.
    Did it ever occur to any of you that the entire basis of this so-called moral discussion is based on OIL? This is totally insane.
    Get a life!


  92. Lynn Says:

    According to the newspapers Ms Pelosi’s office has said it is worth engaging with every country that has an interest in avoiding a chaotic Iraq. What they failed to explain is that Syria’s interest in a non-chaotic Irag is that they would like the U.S. to pull out so that Hamas and Hezbollah and the other terrorist’s groups can take over that country, use the money from their oil to acquire WMD’s and use them against the U.S. You cannot negotiate with terrorists. She needs to stay home and legislate. That is the job she was elected to do. She knows nothing about foreign affairs.



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