Ex-aide turns on Bush.
Ex-aide turns on Bush.
President Bush’s former top aide and pollster Matthew Dowd comes clean:
In a wide-ranging interview here, Mr. Dowd called for a withdrawal from Iraq and expressed his disappointment in Mr. Bush’s leadership.
He criticized the president as failing to call the nation to a shared sense of sacrifice at a time of war, failing to reach across the political divide to build consensus and ignoring the will of the people on Iraq. He said he believed the president had not moved aggressively enough to hold anyone accountable for the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and that Mr. Bush still approached governing with a “my way or the highway” mentality reinforced by a shrinking circle of trusted aides. …
In speaking out, Mr. Dowd became the first member of Mr. Bush’s inner circle to break so publicly with him.
He said his decision to step forward had not come easily. But, he said, his disappointment in Mr. Bush’s presidency is so great that he feels a sense of duty to go public given his role in helping Mr. Bush gain and keep power.
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Too little, Too late.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:24 pmAnd so the Administration turns and eats itself.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:27 pmDo you think he is getting in early before the shiet really hits the fan?
All of a sudden you people want unity? Well isn’t that special.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:31 pmIf only the heading read
Bush gets aids in his inner circle
March 31st, 2007 at 5:32 pmAll of a sudden you people want unity? Well isn’t that special.
Comment by rfinca
I love Unity. What is it?
March 31st, 2007 at 5:33 pmthe number and pace of rats abandoning ship is rapidly accelerating.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:34 pmfalling OUT of love with george bush… what a thought…! i’m afraid that’s going to stick with me for a while like one of those obnoxious songs that you just can’t get out of your head…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
March 31st, 2007 at 5:38 pmCOVERING HIS PHUCKING ASS!!!
March 31st, 2007 at 5:38 pmYou rats! This way to the gangplank…..no pushing….one at a time.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:41 pmHeh.
U.S. ready to strike Iran in early April – intelligence source -1
MOSCOW, March 30 (RIA Novosti) – Russian intelligence has information that the U.S. Armed Forces have nearly completed preparations for a possible military operation against Iran, and will be ready to strike in early April, a security official said.
The source said the U.S. had already compiled a list of possible targets on Iranian territory and practiced the operation during recent exercises in the Persian Gulf.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:46 pmHell with you libs, we are staying in the bunker with our leader Bush, unless we can find the back door.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:47 pmYou rats! This way to the gangplank…..no pushing….one at a time.
Heh.
Comment by Zooey — March 31, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
That’s funny, right dar’…
I can see the animation now…someone call JibJab!!!
March 31st, 2007 at 5:48 pmJake; can we count on you to follow Hitler in his last days in his bunker too? Cyanide capsule and gun to the head, I can hardly wait.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:51 pmMatthew Dowd took this long to figure out what all of us knew before the loser was appointed by the Supremes.
What kind of despicable nit-wit is Dowd? LOSER!
March 31st, 2007 at 5:52 pm“Top aide”? I’ve never heard of the guy before.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:52 pmYou’ll see over the next few weeks, more people will speak out.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:53 pmPeople are abandoning the USS Mission Unaccomplished.
“President Bush’s former top aide and pollster Matthew Down…” – -
March 31st, 2007 at 5:54 pmMatthew Down? Good grief, TP.
All of a sudden you people want unity? Well isn’t that special.
Poor Dowd; the only real way for him to atone is to call for Bush’s impeachment, but he’s not there yet, psychologically speaking. He’s feeling the same as most republicans: used. Too bad their support for Bush has been squandered, much as their ideology.
If they ever want to be taken seriously again, conservatives must make a sacrifice. To restore integrity to the conservative movement, they, not the democrats, must impeach Bush. If conservatives really want to repudiate the disgusting behavior of the past six years, it’s quite simple: bring us the head of George Bush. Then we’ll talk of bipartisanship.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:54 pmI bigger crack in the dam. When it finally breaks, the flood will be enormous.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:55 pmMatthew Dowd, THE LITTLE CREEP—-EVEN HE IS THROWING CHIMPya TO THE WOLVES—-WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO? HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!! HAH!!! GEE, CHIMPya ISN’T LOOKING AT ALL WELL!!!! SEE HOW LONG YOUR “DUTCH” COURAGE IS GOING TO LAST, CHIMPya!!!! BEEN HITTING THE BOTTLE OR LAURA MORE OFTEN, EH?????? MY GEAS-CURSE IS WORKING AS WOE UPON WOE UPON WOE IS PILED ATOP CHIMPya, UNTIL THE SHEER WEIGHT OF CURSES SQUASHES HIM FLATTER THAN A FLOUNDER RUN OVER BY A STEAMROLLER!!!!!
March 31st, 2007 at 5:55 pmHe will be swift boated very soon. Fox pundits & Limbaugh co. will try to shred the guy to pieces…Soon he will be called all names. Will it work?!….time will tell.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:55 pmBecause of the Bush administration hundreds of thousands of people have died, the American system of justice is a joke, respect for the rule of law has been denigrated, we have witnessed horrible cases of obscene and inhumane treatment of prisoners, basic tenets of common law have been abrogated, troops have been sent into battle without adequate equipment, and wounded veterans have been treated with disrespect and indifference. It’s pointless for Dowd to speak up now of his “disappointment.”
March 31st, 2007 at 5:56 pm“Top aide� I’ve never heard of the guy before.
Comment by Jake — March 31, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Only Bush’s pollster. Jake’s doing his Reagan impression; and doing a damn fine job of it.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:56 pmJake: “Top aideâ€? I’ve never heard of the guy before. – - A confirmation of your vapidness with every post.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:56 pm“Top aide� I’ve never heard of the guy before.
Comment by Jake — March 31, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Wow. You seem to worship this presnit and yet you don’t even know his top aides?
March 31st, 2007 at 5:57 pmYa Jake, “top aide” he’s the guy on top. He’s the pitcher, Bush is the catcher.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:59 pmNo, top AIDS would be your guys — you really need to make up your minhd here — either I am a paid RNC plant with Karl Rove’s office next door and every Bush pollster on speed-dial or I am a harmless 75 year-old fuzzball, which one is it?
March 31st, 2007 at 6:09 pmThe republicans thought they could do it all by themselves without the rest of America. Ego will do that to you. They probably thought of themselves as “the 300″ of Leonidas… the problem with that is there was no invasion against America… hell they didnt even strike back at those behind 911.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:10 pmHonestly, I tried “matthew down” — no one with that name ever listed in the West Wing.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:12 pmI think you get paid out of either James Inhofe’s or Tom Tancredo’s office, jake……
March 31st, 2007 at 6:13 pm#29
Try Matthew Dowd….
March 31st, 2007 at 6:14 pmWe keep the important people off the lists, Jake.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:15 pmThe “feeding frenzy” is in progress and the GOP is eating it’s own which is heartening to behold. In this case, the incredible corruption from the top on down is mind-boggling and it’s any wonder why any honest, moral individual would NOT be jumping ship at this point. Whether Republican or Democrat, Truth is Truth and, frankly, Truth is THE ONLY thing which exists. The bastardization of Truth is purely “fiction”. We’ve had enough fiction to last us a lifetime at this point. This is a very healthy sign for this democracy to see staunch “Bushies” finally seeing the light and realizing that they’ve all been HAD by a pro.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:20 pmAnd, from the horrendous way Bush looked at his photo-op at Reed, I’d put my bets that he’s crumbling before our very eyes. That’s what a lifetime of corruption, lies, and degenerative choices will do to an individual.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:22 pmLet’s give that rat Dowd, a big piece of cheese. Now come on all you g.o.p ers, jump out of the sinking ship of state.
And people please cease responding to unrelenting trolls (you all know who). Don’t feed the beast.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:23 pmHe does look like he’s coming totally unglued… heckuva job…
March 31st, 2007 at 6:24 pmDowd was a strategist for the Texas Democrats, but he switched sides after hearing a Gov. Bush speech.
Dowd was also part of the team that cast John Kerry as a flip-flopper.
And now here he is again flip-flopping against what he’s being promoting for the past 6 years.
I was against it before I was for it before I was against it.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:26 pmDid Dowd use the internets? Email?
March 31st, 2007 at 6:27 pmAnticipating the next document dump, with bated breath…
I like the weekend!
Jake,
March 31st, 2007 at 6:36 pmDude, you have no humility (or conscience either). The folks here continue to pile on you and yet, you continue. You are however, succeeding in getting everyone off-topic, which is sad. Every new post eventually breaks down to shouting at Jake through our keyboards. It’s becoming a sport. I have to admit, I enjoy reading all the responses to your bullshit. So let the games begin! You truly are one sick bastard.
For starters, you can atone by killing yourself. The damage you did cannot be undone.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:36 pmAll of a sudden you people want unity? Well isn’t that special.
Comment by rfinca
You mean thats what Rove has been doing all those years? Creating unity? LMAO!!! Yuh Righhhhttttt. And those millions spent on smear campaigns? Man I better white out unity in my dictionary and reword that to fit this new Orwellian meaning pronto!!
March 31st, 2007 at 6:40 pmClowns will eat me if I sleep!
March 31st, 2007 at 6:41 pmDowd: “I think we should design campaigns that appeal not to 51 percent of the people, but bring the country together as a whole.â€
An interesting thought, but not one likely to find any takers in the current administration.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:41 pmWill the next administration do any better?
Jake sez:
From the very next sentence in the lede (emphasis mine):
Again, Jake, questioning your reading comprehension skills isn’t an insult, when your reading comprehension skills are this questionable.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:43 pmIf you notice Jake will not answer any questions posted to him, he only makes pundit style statements and questions trys to relate past history with current events.
It is that brand of thinking that causes mankind to repeat his mistakes over and over.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:43 pmJake sez: Honestly, I tried “matthew downâ€
So how did he taste? hehx2
March 31st, 2007 at 6:44 pmWhat made me sickest was when he was suddenly against
March 31st, 2007 at 6:45 pmthe war when it looked like his own son could be sucked
into it.
Clowns will eat me if I sleep!
Comment by Jake
Hey! That’s almost exactly what my new bumpersticker says.
“Can’t Sleep. Clowns Will Eat Me.”
:-D
March 31st, 2007 at 6:45 pmZep Tepi maybe you are on Jake’s infamous ‘ignore list’??
March 31st, 2007 at 6:46 pmDowd: “I think we should design campaigns that appeal not to 51 percent of the people, but bring the country together as a whole.â€
Yeh, thats what Rove tried but only got the 30% wackos of war is peace Orwellian mentality. (such as you know who)
March 31st, 2007 at 6:47 pmIf conservatives really want to repudiate the disgusting behavior of the past six years, it’s quite simple: bring us the head of George Bush. Then we’ll talk of bipartisanship.
Comment by barfly — March 31, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Well said. The only reason these people have recently grown a conscience is because they know the conservative movement is dying from a lack of oversight and the mismanagement of this country. The GOP needs a complete overhaul.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:48 pmClowns will eat me if I sleep!
Comment by Jake
Why would a clown eat such an unfunny human? Hehx3
Zep Tepi maybe you are on Jake’s infamous ‘ignore list’??
Comment by Royston Vasey
Oh, he takes me off and puts me back on then off then on =)
Flip Floppers go figger.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:50 pmHis son is about to go to Iraq, thus the change of heart. Funny how “everything changes” WHEN ITS YOUR OWN SON’S LIFE ON THE LINE!
March 31st, 2007 at 6:51 pmHis brother used to work with Cpl. Matt Sanchez and Talon News Agency crack reporter Jeff Gannon. His name was Wellen Dowd.
-GSD
March 31st, 2007 at 6:51 pmThe GOP needs a complete overhaul.
Comment by rfinca
It would be cheaper to just buy a new model and throw away that decaying, rusted, bent bulk of hypocrisy. =)
March 31st, 2007 at 6:52 pmThe most important line:
“He criticized the president as failing to call the nation to a shared sense of sacrifice at a time of war”
That’s exectly right. This country has not been at war since WWII.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:53 pmThe Iraq campaign is a subcontracted nation building exercise. This really is Bush’s war. His very own.
TP, I love ya man, but could you please not link to registered sites?
March 31st, 2007 at 6:54 pm#42 Jake,
For us younger fellows that is called a nocturnal emmission. In your case it would be wishful thinking.
March 31st, 2007 at 6:56 pmHis name was Wellen Dowd.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
After my brain registered it I couldn’t stop laughing. Nice one.
Anyway. How is it that these are exactly the points people have been pointing at for years and he had a hard time coming forward? These zombies find it so difficult to acknowledge reality and when they do it’s like this huge thing. It’s not that hard to think about things objectively. It really isn’t. And you think the ability to do so would be a requirement when entrusted with so much power.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:00 pmBoy, these Republicans are proving why they can’t govern. It takes 7 years for things that took normal Americans about 10 minutes to deduce.
Well, maybe MC Rove can save Bush by coming out with a hit rap album.
-GSD
March 31st, 2007 at 7:01 pmBush did not do all this damage by HIMSELF. It would be a big mistake to “Toss Bush Overboard” as a brush cutting failure….. I hope all his enablers in congress and his advisors with an almost perfect record of BEING WRONG are held accountable as well.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:03 pmTHINK PROGRESS SAID…
President Bush’s former top aide and pollster Matthew Down comes clean:
Its Matthew Dowd.
Not Down.
Dowd.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:10 pm“Top aide� I’ve never heard of the guy before.
Comment by Jake — March 31, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Thats because TP mispelled his name.
Its Matthew Dowd, not Down.
You know, he was one of the knuckleheads who came up with the famous “Kerry is a flip-flopper” thing.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:13 pmClowns will eat me if I sleep!
Comment by Jake Jr — March 31, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Work with me here, but does that sound like something a 75 year old would say?
March 31st, 2007 at 7:15 pmAnd by the way, I think before we start crucifying Dowd because he was a democrat, heard Bush speak and became a devoted loyal confidant, and now sees Bush for what he is, I think its important to point out that he is at least having the courage to speak up now. We should welcome the prodigal home. Besides, you know what they say.
Better late to the party, than never.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:21 pmHow Jake has the gonads to show his face here day after day is beyond me.
Any chance of this going beyond the NY Times?
TV coverage? I won’t hold my breath for Wolf Blitzer to say anything.
What happened to journalism in America? It’s so sad how they’ve sold out.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:34 pmDowd? Any relation to Elmore P.? Now there’s a man with true vision! My hero!
March 31st, 2007 at 7:38 pmHa, barfly!
So who’s your “friend” tonight?
March 31st, 2007 at 7:41 pmComment by trueblue
His name’s Harvey . . . And he’s a very talented fellow!
Have you seen him?
March 31st, 2007 at 7:44 pmBarfly has a friend named Harvey. Ok.
Confused….
March 31st, 2007 at 7:48 pmBut of course! He’s right here with me. He says “Hello.”
I’ve been driving myself crazy trying to remember what kind of creature he is.
Begins with a “P” is all I remember right now.
Please end my brain freeze and tell me what it is…
March 31st, 2007 at 7:51 pm:)
Barfly has a friend named Harvey. Ok.
Confused….
I guess the movie is a little old. I was just riffing.
I was just thinking we could use a few more Elmore P. Dowds and a few less Matthew Dowds, right about now.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:52 pmPooka!
March 31st, 2007 at 7:53 pmJames Stewart movie, Zooey.
March 31st, 2007 at 7:54 pm…and I take offense to that, barfly!
:P
I’m 40 and know the movie Harvey.
(love James Stewart.)
March 31st, 2007 at 7:56 pmBut of course! He’s right here with me. He says “Hello.â€
trueblue
Could you ask him to do that time-freeze thingie, so I can go to the bar and my wife won’t notice?
March 31st, 2007 at 7:58 pmOMG!
Thank you soooooo much!
It was driving me nuts.
I just yelled it out when I read it, and miniblue came rushing in saying, “What?”
Too funny!
March 31st, 2007 at 7:59 pmtrueblue & barfly are clearly insane.
What’s the moon phase…?
March 31st, 2007 at 8:00 pmI’ll ask him…….
………..
………..
Sorry, he says it’s Saturday night and you need to snuggle with the Mrs.
;)
Maybe next Friday, he says……..
March 31st, 2007 at 8:02 pm…and I take offense to that, barfly!
[Scorges self with mousecord] Please forgive, mistress trueblue!
March 31st, 2007 at 8:02 pmCould you ask him to do that time-freeze thingie, so I can go to the bar and my wife won’t notice? -Barfly
But then when you returned to real (your time) you’d be sober and the wife older, perhaps =)
March 31st, 2007 at 8:03 pmtrueblue & barfly are clearly insane.
What’s the moon phase…?
Comment by Zooey
C’mon, Zooey,
It’s our 6′ tall rabbit friend, Harvey.
“Say Hello, Harvey.”…
March 31st, 2007 at 8:06 pmOh, no, barfly.
The only Mistress here is Mistress Z…..
I’m just her minion…….
March 31st, 2007 at 8:07 pm….and Zep joins the insanity club…..
March 31st, 2007 at 8:07 pmWhat’s the moon phase…?
Comment by Zooey
Your phase seems familiar -Austin Powers
Heh.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:07 pmComment by Zooey
How many times can you flog the “ex-aide turns on Bush” meme, without beating it to death? It Saturday, and remarkably troll-free. I’m giddy; and will now have a drink to calm myself. (it’s also the first one, if you’re curious, Zooey).
March 31st, 2007 at 8:08 pmZooey,
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042546/
March 31st, 2007 at 8:10 pmBut then when you returned to real (your time) you’d be sober and the wife older, perhaps =)
Comment by Zep Tepi
Paraphrasing an old drunk like Winston Churchill? Very apt, my good fellow.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:10 pmBad combination.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:10 pm….and Zep joins the insanity club…..
Comment by Zooey
Hey, as compared to this fecked up Orwellian non-reality of today, I much prefer my fecked up reality, which, oddly, is more real than todays reality =)
(kiddning o course)
March 31st, 2007 at 8:11 pmBarfly, I’ll join you soon…Makers Mark Manhattan, up, perfect.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:12 pmI’m giddy; and will now have a drink to calm myself. (it’s also the first one, if you’re curious, Zooey).
Comment by barfly
I’m on my second, and ya’ll are confusing the hell out of me.
Mistress Z is not much of a drinker….
March 31st, 2007 at 8:13 pmHi I WORFEUS,
March 31st, 2007 at 8:13 pmDowd is an adult and he knew exactly what he was doing. Courage or not, I will never ever forgive him, or anyone else who supported the Bush regime. That includes the MSM and their pundits, as well as the evangelical fundamentalists freaks that infest our government. Why should we? The last six+ years have completely surreal and heartbreaking. It will take 100+ years to fix our economy and 1000+ years of dealing with muslim fundamentalists and others who hate our guts more than ever. Everything just seems so hopeless. My hope is we get hit by a 25 mile-wide meteor. It’s time to reboot the earth!
p.s. Go f**k yourself Jake (just could’nt help myself).
Makers Mark…..
Oooooohh.
Now there’s a bourbon.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:16 pmMakers Mark Manhattan, up, perfect. Comment by SKdeA
So, what do you order? A 3mp?
Mine’s CC: Canadian Club. Cheap, but with an uptown bite.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:17 pmya’ll are confusing the hell out of me.
Mistress Z is not much of a drinker….
Comment by Zooey
Baw, you aint driving are ya? Salud!
March 31st, 2007 at 8:18 pmParaphrasing an old drunk like Winston Churchill? Very apt, my good fellow. Comment by barfly
Cheers!
March 31st, 2007 at 8:19 pmMakers Mark … Now there’s a bourbon.
Comment by trueblue
For a banker. It’s pretty pricey stuff, no?
March 31st, 2007 at 8:19 pmMassachusetts,
I was hoping you’d show back up.
What part of MA are you from, may I ask?
I’m originally from Cambridge, now in MA hell called Cape Cod.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:21 pmMistress Z is not much of a drinker….
Comment by Zooey
Your eloquence puts proof to this assertion. I myself, however, have had a very sordid relationship with alcohol. A counselor once asked: what would it take for you to stop drinking? My reply? Liver failure.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:24 pmFor a banker. It’s pretty pricey stuff, no?
Comment by barfly
No, way out of my range.
Whenever I drank bourbon, it was “Rebel Yell”!
(about 15 years ago)
March 31st, 2007 at 8:24 pmA counselor once asked: what would it take for you to stop drinking? My reply? Liver failure.
Comment by barfly
Spoken like a true barfly.
LOL.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:26 pmI will never ever forgive him, or anyone else who supported the Bush regime. That includes the MSM and their pundits, as well as the evangelical fundamentalists freaks that infest our government.
Why should we?
Comment by Massachusetts — March 31, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Simple.
Because if we don’t, then it doesn’t exactly encourage people to switch sides, does it?
I mean, if they know you’re going to crucify them whether they’re for or against Bush, then what motive does it give them to want to speak out against Bush and for the Democrats?
While it may feel good to damn them all to hell for time and all eternity, we are living in a real world, with a real society, and members of that society are going to make wrong choices. We need to accept and welcome those from the right wing who decide to switch sides. Many of them can become our strongest voices to sway the masses. Look at what a powerhouse for reason Andrew Sullivan has become. Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, all Bush fans who flew the coop once they saw Bush for what he was.
I’m not saying vote for them or something. Hilary, John Edwards, any of them who voted for the war or supported it early on, have shown they do no have the moral compass or judgement to make the right decisions when the balls in their court. So we don’t vote for them for President or something, but we don’t condemn them either when they say the right things, like “I’m sorry I voted for the war”. We should encourage it.
If we are going to pummel them when they tell us they’ve switched, then we’re going to get less converts.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:27 pmJust as Bush has done all this damage by himself, so now his damage to himself is becoming evident. His corrupt little white house of horrors is being “outed” left and right….day after ugly day…and it’s showing just how unqualified, incompetent, and pathological he really is. He’s surrounded himself with “yes men” and “fall guys” and now the people are finally getting to see that he is, after all, just the very little man behind the curtain at Oz….it isn’t a very flattering or pretty sight!
March 31st, 2007 at 8:28 pmBaw, you aint driving are ya? Salud!
Comment by Zep Tepi
I don’t think so…. :D
March 31st, 2007 at 8:30 pmAgreed….those who voted “for” the war by enabling this mass genocide of our military & the Iraqis (Clinton, Edward, Biden, McCain, Lieberman) definitely should not be “celebrated” by our vote in 08. This was the largest error in judgment anyone could make in their lifetime and these people need to be shown by the people that they hold them personally responsible for all that’s gone wrong with this country. To vote for them at this point when we are aware of their flawed judgment is asking for more of the same.
Clearly, no one who voted for this war should be “rewarded” by one single vote in 08 – and that goes without exception – and on both sides of the aisle.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:31 pmInteresting turn of events.
Visit: http://osiSpeaks.com or http://osiSpeaks.org
March 31st, 2007 at 8:36 pmLISTEN DUDE :)
in my book and personal experience, if they’re corrupted their a bunch
of CROOKS
C
R
O
N
Y
and sure they’ll turn two faced against one another
regarding the american flag always photographed with a totally corrupted
two faced son of a b***h, enough to make me PUKE
oh the american flag is just fine… some crony getting paid $100,000 +
all the perks placing that american flag next to a totally corrupted
so called american flag IS NOT, it’s SICKENING
unless of course it signifies the american way is corruption
LEGAL BRIBERY
CORRUPT
CRONYISM
ENOUGH TO MAKE ME
P
U
K
E
:)
I’VE STATED WISDOM IN TRUTH ! :)
March 31st, 2007 at 8:36 pmYour eloquence puts proof to this assertion. I myself, however, have had a very sordid relationship with alcohol. A counselor once asked: what would it take for you to stop drinking? My reply? Liver failure.
Comment by barfly
If I had a counselor, I’m sure they would recommend I drink more….
March 31st, 2007 at 8:36 pmSpoken like a true barfly.
LOL.
Comment by trueblue
Actually, I’ll let you, and the select few who are reading this, in on a little secret: I chose this name, because I’ve always dug the movie “Barfly,” not because I am a barfly. The grittiness of the performances have always stuck with me, and they resonate at odd times. As when George Bush was reelected, the first thing that came to mind was the movie’s line: “Bad luck, by the fucking bucket!” said just as the character is pulling a knife from his ribcage.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:39 pmLady Z and all the full moon is on Monday, but , every where I went today made me think it was today..Nice weather here today and every mini van moron was on the road’s and in the super stores..Yike’s! A little sunshine does it every time..Good thing all I needed was some potting soil, didn’t have to fight the long register lines…Have a Blessed week end all, hug some one you love, send healing thought’s for RUCerious, kiss some one and tell them you love them and please do something for our country and the world…Plant a tree or flower for our future and air…..Blessings
March 31st, 2007 at 8:40 pmHi trueblue,
March 31st, 2007 at 8:40 pmEver hear of Mendon? It’s in Worcester County. Been hear 47+ years. Spent several vacations down in Wellfleet (best place on the Cape). I know I’ll crap for saying it, but I hope someday to move to New Zealand and escape this madness in the northern hemisphere. Don’t get me wrong, I love my country. It’s just that the ideals that America once stood for don’t seem to exist anymore. I just don’t recognize my own country anymore. Sorry to be such a bummer.
Thanks for the personal interest.
All the best to you!
I don’t think so…. :D
Comment by Zooey
I don’t know if I should be worried or not LOL =)
March 31st, 2007 at 8:41 pmI second Sharon’s call to give RU all the positive energy we can muster — and coming from a bunch of liberals, that’s no small thing.
Goodnight, Sharon.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:46 pmIf I had a counselor, I’m sure they would recommend I drink more….
Comment by Zooey
I went, with ex-wife, to a marriage counselor once. After the second or third session he told me I was the most laid back person he had ever met and that I should argue with my wife more!!
True!!
March 31st, 2007 at 8:47 pmDammit I WORFEUS, your right, and I mean that sincerely. I guess I was just venting. We will probably have to beg forgiveness from the rest of the world for what we’ve done. So I guess my initial reaction was a little hypocritical and not very inkeeping with the ideals of progressives. Sorry ’bout that. Still hoping for that meteor though. Peace.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:50 pmMeanwhile, back at the “surge:”
The U.S. military death toll in March, the first full month of the security crackdown, was nearly twice that of the Iraqi army
March 31st, 2007 at 8:52 pmI agree with WORFEUS in #103: we should forgive Busheviks who have realized the error of their ways in order to encourage others to leave the dark, corrupt side. That doesn’t mean we have to “forget” or “vote” for them–just recognize that they have finally seen the light.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:54 pmhe is spealing out now b/c his son is being reployed in Eyerack. What a coward !
March 31st, 2007 at 8:55 pmIt’s just that the ideals that America once stood for don’t seem to exist anymore. I just don’t recognize my own country anymore. Sorry to be such a bummer. Thanks for the personal interest.All the best to you!
Comment by Massachusetts
Naw your not a bummer. We are basically wanting the same thing and for our government to regain it’s lost virtue. America was once a Just country to serve Justice and to live and let live. Not to war for resources and business interests, not to torture, or occupy, or force democracy at the end of a barrel.
To live and let live, to spread Peace, and thru Peace and trade shall Democracy take root and grow.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:56 pmDammit I WORFEUS, your right, and I mean that sincerely. I guess I was just venting. -MASS
Actually I love to hear a good rant. Let it rip man, aint nobody gonna hold it against you.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:58 pmI went to a counceler once and she told me to drink more and divorce the fool I was married to, in front of him..Did just that in 93 and been a happy camper every since…Don’t drink much or often but I do injoy tipping a few..Today it is my usual Bailey’s, so no funny stuff, O.K.? it’s sticky, ickie to get off the monitor and key board…LOL….Blessings
March 31st, 2007 at 9:00 pmHave a Blessed week end all, hug some one you love, send healing thought’s for RUCerious, kiss some one and tell them you love them and please do something for our country and the world…Plant a tree or flower for our future and air…..Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Will do, absolutely, Great Lady.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:00 pmI went, with ex-wife, to a marriage counselor once. After the second or third session he told me I was the most laid back person he had ever met and that I should argue with my wife more!!
True!!
Comment by Zep Tepi
That’s psychotic. I’d rather drink more. :D
Zep, I worked out that I am not, in fact, driving….
March 31st, 2007 at 9:02 pmAnd the crickets chirp as we wait for a response from Rove…….errrrr Jake.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:02 pmWhat’s the moon phase…?
Comment by Zooey — March 31, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
sharon beat me to it! FULL MOON on MONDAY…
f.y.i. – get your early ABOVE GROUND plants in by then…
sounds like that’s what sharon has in mind… a little early here…
plant root crops and do chores after monday untill new moon on 17th (”dark of the moon” or shrinking), then time again for above ground crops and plants (”light of the moon”)…
of course, you plant when you can… but there IS a reason that there are “old wives tales”… for the most part i’ve had good luck…
March 31st, 2007 at 9:03 pm…
Hi Massachusetts,
It’s way out there, as far as Bostonians are concerned.
:P
When you go to NZ, let me know.
Miniblue and I are seriously thinking that if things get much worse we may be outta here, as well.
Just ask Briseadh na Faire.
He’s had visions of the Eastern Seaboard ungulfed in flames.
Not good.
(Happy thought for a Saturday night… not)
March 31st, 2007 at 9:04 pmI went to a counceler once and she told me to drink more and divorce the fool I was married to, in front of him.
Glad to see it worked out for you. I really mean that. =)
I could drink more, but I still found it hard to argue over things that did not matter..I simply couldn’t see argument as a way to keep a marriage together, nor that it would be good for a child to have to listen to mom and dad bicker over infitesimally small and mute points.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:05 pmDammit I WORFEUS, your right, and I mean that sincerely.
Comment by Massachusetts — March 31, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
It’s all good Mass.
Besides, we can always kick their asses later, lol.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:06 pmZep, I worked out that I am not, in fact, driving….
Comment by Zooey
I am.
(Heh)
March 31st, 2007 at 9:07 pmToday it is my usual Bailey’s, so no funny stuff, O.K.? it’s sticky, ickie to get off the monitor and key board…LOL….Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Sharon,
If it was anyone else, I’d do whatever I could to make the Bailey’s come out of your nose.
But it’s you, so I’ll behave.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:08 pmYou enjoy.
If it was anyone else, I’d do whatever I could to make the Bailey’s come out of your nose.
Is that like a Baileys Comet?
March 31st, 2007 at 9:13 pmYou bet trueblue!
Buy a sailboat in NZ and become a ‘Captain Ron’ type character (Kurt Russel, in the movie of the same name). Peace
p.s. Zep Tepi, thanks for the encouragement, but I’m all vented out!
March 31st, 2007 at 9:15 pmZep Tepi,
I’m so glad I wasn’t drinking anything, because I’d be the one cleaning my monitor!
That was the greatest, Zep.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:15 pmTrue, you, Zooey, BnF and several other’s have caught me already so many times my screen is tinted beige permanently…LOL..Blessings
March 31st, 2007 at 9:16 pmDown or Dowd TP? I love the site but come on! Which is it? I’ve come to trust you. What’s the deal?
March 31st, 2007 at 9:16 pm“These zombies find it so difficult to acknowledge reality and when they do it’s like this huge thing. It’s not that hard to think about things objectively.”
Comment by dlet
They don’t think objectively. These are people who have been conditioned to think ideologically, not objectively. It is a direct result of the psycho-religious propaganda they have been conditioned to believe. Essentially, they are equipped with a nearly perfect filtration apparatus which is impermeable to facts which do not match their ideological imprint. Those facts which do break through the membrane are automatically twisted to fit. Look at the behavior of this Jake — his nonsensical commentary is virtually automatic, essentially effortless on his part. With these people, there is no felt need to investigate and analyze — the conclusion is self-evident to them ,even though the conclusions obviously conflict with reality to any external observer. Sadly, this is not an isolated problem today. It is very wide-spread indeed due to the nature of the western educational process.
Given all that, the question arises as to whether the Progressive Movement should start taking steps to manipulate this reality. I’m not sure that can happen to the degree to which it occurred with the zio-cons. It takes a certain degree of moral turpitude to operate on that basis. However, I do notice that Hillary is trying to capitalize on the Al Qaeda myth. To say the least, it is an interesting exercise to view the American landscape in light of this web of public mythology — perpetrators, victims and exploiters and nothing is what it seems.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:17 pmI could drink more, but I still found it hard to argue over things that did not matter..I simply couldn’t see argument as a way to keep a marriage together, nor that it would be good for a child to have to listen to mom and dad bicker over infitesimally small and mute points.
Comment by Zep Tepi
Absolutely correct. Discuss like adults, don’t f*cking argue, because there ain’t no such thing as make-up sex.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:17 pmThat was the greatest, Zep.
Comment by trueblue
Aww shucks, I learned that from Zooey =)
March 31st, 2007 at 9:18 pmMiniblue is demanding I watch “Cars” with her.
Even though she’s 17……………….
So, because she runs the house, I’ve got to go.
Goodnight, all.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:18 pmp.s. Zep Tepi, thanks for the encouragement, but I’m all vented out!
Comment by Massachusetts
Otay. =) Mebbe next time.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:20 pmGN TB
March 31st, 2007 at 9:21 pmHell with you libs, we are staying in the bunker with our leader Bush, unless we can find the back door.
Comment by Jake for president
March 31st, 2007 at 9:21 pmJeff Gannon speaks.And we do not want to hear about George’s back door.
Zep, every time they do it to me it’s more like a guiser hurl…Sticky, ickie every where…LOL
Mass…Have you looked at Montana?…Still lot’s of room there..My friend just went back this time to Billings from New Hamshire…Bad thing is the winters, good thing’s are the republicans are still republican’s not like these neo – cons and there’s lot’s of open spaces…The entire state has under a million I think.. I love the whole state and the people..Every one look’s out for their neighbor..Blessings
March 31st, 2007 at 9:24 pmAww shucks, I learned that from Zooey =)
Comment by Zep Tepi
Shooting liquids from the nose? Oy. I need some class….
March 31st, 2007 at 9:25 pmWelp, I iz gunna go read the book I gotz from the half price book store. TTYL.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:25 pmDoes this guy have a moral compass or is he trying to position himself politically for the inevitable repudiation of Bush’s policies?
At this point, I have become so cynical, that I believe the latter rathe than the former.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:27 pmZep, every time they do it to me it’s more like a guiser hurl…Sticky, ickie every where…LOL
Perhaps you mean that geyser in yellowstone? Old Nasal? =)
ZT over and out.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:27 pmI second Sharon’s call to give RU all the positive energy we can muster — and coming from a bunch of liberals, that’s no small thing. …
Comment by barfly — March 31, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
i will add my best wishes also… i picked up this bit of news about RU while reading some of TP yesterday morning…
i also feel confident that it’s all of our thoughts and energies directed towards the efforts of saving the democracy that has resulted in all of these revelations and turnings and truth-tellings of late…
… you KNOW it can’t hurt…
March 31st, 2007 at 9:33 pmZT Yep! I outta here for tonight also, night all….Blessings
March 31st, 2007 at 9:34 pmGet the names straight TP. If you want to be reputable, is it Down or is it Dowd? A simple google search shows Dowd but come on….Until you start dealing with your typos, I’m going to start taking anything you have to say with a grain of salt.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:35 pmHi Sharon,
March 31st, 2007 at 9:41 pmThank you for the suggestion. It’s just that I think the USA has become a big bullseye and that it’s just a matter of time before the nuclear isotopes are wafting across the country, including Montana. NZ has only four million people in the whole country and they have all four seasons. Plus, active volcanos, glaciers, sub-tropical rainforests, a gazillion miles of coastline and they’re in the southern hemisphere, 1,200 miles from their nearest neighbor. They’re seem to be much more progressive than the US.
Off to watch the tele, ‘night all.
Peace
OT, but I wanted to post anyway…
From current headlines:
President Bush on Saturday said Iran ’s capture of 15 British sailors and marines was “inexcusable” and called for Iran to “give back the hostages” immediately and unconditionally.
But isn’t the world going to be a better place because of actions like or similar to Iran’s????
QUESTION: Thank you very much.
Mr. President, critics of your proposed bill on interrogation rules say there’s another important test. These critics include John McCain, who you’ve mentioned several times this morning.
And that test is this: If a CIA officer, paramilitary or special operations soldier from the United States were captured in Iran or
North Korea and they were roughed up and those governments said, “Well, they were interrogated in accordance with our interpretation of the Geneva Conventions,” and then they were put on trial and they were convicted based on secret evidence that they were not able to see, how would you react to that as commander in chief?
BUSH: My reaction is, is that if the nations such as those you name adopted the standards within the Detainee Detention Act, the world would be better. That’s my reaction.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:43 pmsound check
March 31st, 2007 at 9:45 pmPeace.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:46 pmvery strange censoring going on here
anybody else?
March 31st, 2007 at 9:48 pmIMPEACH Bush
March 31st, 2007 at 9:48 pmdown / dowd … it’s obviously a simple brain-fart / typo … jeesh…
if that’s all it takes to make one lose confidence there can’t have been much to start with… many more REAL problems out there…
March 31st, 2007 at 9:49 pm…
thought’s for RUCerious
What happened to RU??? He lives only about a mile away from me. Someone please fill me in :-(
March 31st, 2007 at 9:50 pm#157 Cancer. Don’t know all the details like some of the regular posters but that’s the deal.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:55 pmLeft Coast Mike,
RUC is having a spot on his lung investigated. He said he’d check back next week.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:55 pm#10 Russian intel said Good Friday.
Easter weekend, btw, is a horrible time to start a war of choice.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:58 pmShut me up before I give bad information again.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:58 pm“These zombies find it so difficult to acknowledge reality and when they do it’s like this huge thing. It’s not that hard to think about things objectively.”
Comment by dlet
They don’t think objectively. These are people who have been conditioned to think ideologically, not objectively. It is a direct result of the psycho-religious propaganda they have been conditioned to believe. Essentially, they are equipped with a nearly perfect filtration apparatus which is impermeable to facts which do not match their ideological imprint. Those facts which do break through the membrane are automatically twisted to fit. Look at the behavior of this Jake — his nonsensical commentary is virtually automatic, essentially effortless on his part. With these people, there is no felt need to investigate and analyze — the conclusion is self-evident to them ,even though the conclusions obviously conflict with reality to any external observer. Sadly, this is not an isolated problem today. It is very wide-spread indeed due to the nature of the western educational process.
Given all that, the question arises as to whether the Progressive Movement should start taking steps to manipulate this reality. I’m not sure that can happen to the degree to which it occurred with the neo-cons. It takes a certain degree of moral turpitude to operate on that basis. However, I do notice that Hillary is trying to capitalize on the Al Qaeda myth. To say the least, it is an interesting exercise to view the American landscape in light of this web of public mythology — perpetrators, victims and exploiters, and nothing is what it seems to be.
March 31st, 2007 at 9:59 pmLurkers should just stay silent. Thanks Zooey for the update. Prayers and good thoughts to RUCurious.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:08 pm#109
LISTEN DUDE/DUDETTES,
I DONOT ENGAGE IN ANY OF THE POLITICIZED ASPECTS OF SOCIETY
WHO PEDDLE THEIR POISONS. THAT INCLUDES ALCOHOL, PHARMA’S,
CONTAMINATED FOODS, AND LITERALLY I AM DOING EVERYTHING IN
MY POWER TO AVOID POLITICIZED ASPECTS OF LIFE MORELIKE SOCIETY THAT HAVE BECOME POLITICIZED WHICH MOST LIKELY ARE AFFECTED
BY CORRUPTION……. YOU KNOW POLITICAL PARASITES, LEECHES, CRONY’S,
CROOKS, RAH RAH SUPERFICIAL BULL, OR JACKY KNOWS THOMAS KINDA OF BULL.
UPSTAIRS THERE ARE NO MARBLES MISSING :) … SO CALLED MENTAL HEALTH OR PSYCHOLOGY, I AM PERFECTLY NORMAL IN FACT QUITE HONESTLY I’M A PERSON OF QUITE A BIT OF INTEGRITY, HONESTY, TRUTH,
AND QUALITIES. Am i expect the same from all these so called carassed
so called god appointed public servants, which lately is looking more like a scam and scandal :)
oh yeah, they’ll serve the people all right… what do convicted felons,
legalized bribes have to do with that… in fact if they were real public
servants, serving the people would be a reality instead of these pork
self serving land deals, cash, public leeching/thievery, and totally corrupted authority power, literally no logic, almost considered addictive in nature
YOU KNOW WHO SHOULD BE PRESIDENT……… ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jimbo dude has spoken the truth :)
March 31st, 2007 at 10:17 pmLurkers should just stay silent. Thanks Zooey for the update. Prayers and good thoughts to RUCurious.
Comment by Lisa the Lurker
No worries, Lisa. It’s easy to miss details in this type of forum. :)
March 31st, 2007 at 10:20 pmThanks Lisa and Zooey, I will be sending him all the positive energy I can muster. Will look forward to his return and good health.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:21 pm#163 – Jimbo
Right on, Jimbo.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:22 pmWell, i guess it’s not the night to be posting thoughtful and insightful commentary. It sure would be nice if there was some indication why posts are ignored.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:23 pmAND IT IS CLEARLY ESTABLISHED DONOT INVEST IN MONETARY NOR MATERIALISM ACCUMULATIONS…. IT IS YOUR ULTIMATE PURPOSE TO
SERVE GODS CHILDREN.
OH THEY DO THAT GREAT, RIGGING THE SYSTEM… LAND DEALS, ALL MIGHTY LITTLE GOD BRIBED BY A SYSTEM TOTALLY BOUGHT OUT. TRUSTY TELEPHONE TO SOLICIT BRIBES, $100,000 CLUB, $1000 PLATES, WHILE THOSE ENTRUSTED TO BE PUBLIC SERVANTS INSTEAD LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH AND RAID SOCIAL SECURITY WITH THEIR CRONY’S AND LINE EACH OTHERS POCKETS.
MONEY MEANS NOTHING WHAT SO EVER THAN SHELTER, NECESSITIES, AND A MEDIAN EXCHANGE FOR SERVICE.
UNFORTUNATELY YOU DOG GONE CAN’T GET THOSE SERVICES, BUT IF YOU DID, MCDONALD’S WOULD BE FAR SUPERIOR :)
RAH RAH THOMAS KNOW LINDY KNOWS KINDA BULL GETS SUPERIOR SERVICE TO THE ELF’S POT, YOUR ELF’S POT IN A MEDIAN OF EXCHANGE
NOT A BUNCH OF CROOKS LIKE BUSH/CHENEY AND WHOEVER ELSE PARTICIPATES AS A BUNCH OF PARASITES/LEECHES
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THEM RIGHT OUT OF OFFICE AND WE CAN’T TO THAT EITHER
March 31st, 2007 at 10:25 pmGO Jim Dude?????? And thank you Zooey for your kind understanding. Peace all.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:28 pmTELL ME WHAT KIND OF PUBLIC SERVANT TELLS THE PUBLIC SOCIAL SECURITY IS A BUNCH OF EMPTY IOU’S, RAIDS IT AND TRIES TO SELL
THE PUBLIC CRONYISM?
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THAT’S WHO!!!!!!!! JEEZ AND HE WONDERS WHY 28% APPROVAL. BUT DON’T EVEN HAVE THE INTEGRITY TO CARE, BY FAR CHENEY’S BUDDIES ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT. IRAQ IS A SCANDAL FOR THE BANKING SECTOR TO PUT US INTO DEBT FOR EVER AND A TOTALLY CORRUPTED CRONY DEFENSE NON BID CONTRACTS
ENOUGH TO MAKE ME
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TOTALLY CORRUPT AND CRIMINAL IN NATURE AND EVEN JUSTICE IS TOTALLY CORRUPTED. SICKENING ISN’T IT
March 31st, 2007 at 10:30 pmor I am a harmless 75 year-old fuzzball, which one is it?
Comment by Jake — March 31, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
You are an insignifican little puke trying to make yourself feel important. That’s not going to happen here.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:30 pmHis name was Wellen Dowd.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — March 31, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Kudos – made me spit water on my keyboard!
March 31st, 2007 at 10:38 pmLISTEN DUDE, MY TIME/LIFE ARE VALUABLE YA KNOW. ARE YOU
SAYING JIMBO AIN’T WELCOME ROAMING AROUND THESE PARTS
DOES MY ULTIMATE TRUTH I SPEAK AND HEAVENLY AWESOME
March 31st, 2007 at 10:41 pmCOOLNESS JUST BLOW EVERYONE AWAY :)
I BOW BEFORE YOU JIMBO………..I REALLY DO. Now, could you please stop typing all in caps or is that just your thing? HONESTLY, I GET REALLY, REALLY TIRED OF READING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ALL IN CAPS. Just saying………….
March 31st, 2007 at 10:47 pm(tired of reading)
or I am a harmless 75 year-old fuzzball, which one is it?
Comment by Jake
You certainly aren’t 75 and you would seem to me ineffective.
I have given you many clues yet you still do not realize what I say. Your words here have no effect as your thoughts have no effect.
The question then is why does Jake, who posts so much and think so much, have no true effect?
Can you yet divorce yourself from what you think as to that what truly is?
Only then, with a balanced mind, will you have any effect, and when you do have effect it will be for progress of mankind and not for war.
Do you understand?
YOU cannot have an effect until you think in rational, not biased and not materialistically, terms.
Can you comprehend such simple things?
March 31st, 2007 at 10:49 pmI will remember RU and Tony Snow in my prayers. Contrary to many assumptions, they can be included in the same prayer….
March 31st, 2007 at 10:50 pmJake the Joke has never heard of Dowd. Well, that’s possible. I’ve never heard of him. But strangely Bush pretended not to know Kenny Boy Lay after Enron collapsed and said he had never met Jack Abramoff.
Not only are the rats leaving the sinking ship of state, but the rats remaining are pretending those swimming rats aren’t rats but some bizarre kind of furry fish.
It is a sad day when Republicans begin acting like Peter on the day of the crucifixion. “Jesus? Never heard of him. You must be thinking of some other Peter. If I told you once I’ve told you three times, I don’t know any guy named Jesus.”
March 31st, 2007 at 10:51 pm#176 more truth to you dude! just wish the general people
March 31st, 2007 at 10:51 pmcould see through the propaganda and really see the truth,
but regarding the truth, what is the truth and that’s where
a sharp attoney comes in :)
more balls than the “opposition” party
March 31st, 2007 at 10:55 pmThis gives rise to the question as to whether the Progressive Movement should be taking more aggressive steps to manipulate this reality. Progressives do seem to take more pride in their abilities to think critically and objectively. Thus, I’m not sure that we can take advantage of this situation as readily as the neo-cons have done. It does seem to take a certain degree of moral turpitude to operate on that basis…pragmatism only goes so far. But, to say the least, it is an interesting exercise to view the American landscape in light of this web of public mythology — perpetrators, victims and exploiters, where nothing is what it seems to be.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:56 pmI will remember RU and Tony Snow in my prayers. Contrary to many assumptions, they can be included in the same prayer….
Comment by valiant venus
I will remember RU and Tony Snow in my prayers.
Comment by valiant venus
There, I fixed it for you.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:56 pmand as requested i’ll take a chill pill and stop emphasising by caps
March 31st, 2007 at 11:00 pmi’m just tired of all the empty promises and a bunch of parasites/leeches
leaving empty iou’s instead they move on to their next scam/scandals
Rofl, i’m sure you’ll make a lot of sense out of that last post, given that TP disappeared the top part away after it was posted.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:03 pmsend healing thought’s for RUCerious,
Comment by Sharon — March 31, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
such healing energy as I can send has been sent.
Peace and Blessings.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:04 pmo my, i wish TP would get this censoring act together
sorry about the double posts or should i say the 1.5 post or whatever you want to call it
March 31st, 2007 at 11:10 pm#111 Massachusetts – NZ is a wonderful place.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:19 pmJust last week NZs PM Helen Clark was in Washington to see Bush, Rice and so on.
One of the discussions was about a Free Trade Agreement between New Zealand (pop. 4m) and the US (pop. 300m).
This idea was basically laughed at by Bushco as they consider NZ “a close friend, but not an ally”.
This is due to New Zealand’s “No Nukes In Our Waters” policy – meaning no nuclear power ships/subs and so on.
This impacts on the Navy using NZ ports as they won’t tell the NZ government if certain ships do or do not have nukes on board.
This policy has been in place since the mid 80s.
NZ is not part of the war in Iraq, but has sent a small contingent of troops to Afganistan.
It’s quite a liberal place – they even had the world’s first transsexual MP.
Comment by stonehinge — March 31, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Who’s to say some in the Progressive Movement aren’t taking agressive steps to manipulate this reality?
Beginning with the fall equinox, I have been praying that those who know of wrongdoing come forward with testimony and evidence. Others have joined my prayer. How many revelations have there been since the middle of last September? There was enough from out of the blue, so to speak, to affect the November elections, wasn’t there? And just as the hours of daylight are increasing, so to is light being shown through the darkness that has enshrouded this Administration.
And so I continue to pray, may those who know of wrongdoing in this administration continue to come forward with testimony and evidence.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:20 pmMeanwhile, back at the seige/surge…
Right. Hey, Bush, can you spell Guantanamo? I didn’t think so. How many “hostages” are you holding there? How are you treating your “hostages?”
March 31st, 2007 at 11:32 pmDowd: “I think we should design campaigns that appeal not to 51 percent of the people, but bring the country together as a whole.â€
From divide and conquer to togetherness. Better late than never.
Here’s the campaign for you Matthew Dowd: http://www.worldwidehappiness.org
Email me, Matthew. I’ll be waiting with bated breath.
Martin Gifford.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:35 pmBush called them “hostages†and said Iran’s actions were “inexcusable.â€
The Chimp is using language to get the 30% stirred up, and lure back any fraidy cats in the 70%.
It’s totally obvious — to anyone not them….
March 31st, 2007 at 11:38 pmGreat post Briseadh na Faire, It is working and Thank you for continuing to post the prayer…Blessings…Peace
March 31st, 2007 at 11:40 pmI will remember RU and Tony Snow in my prayers. Contrary to many assumptions, they can be included in the same prayer….
Comment by valiant venus
V V, I’m glad to see that your heart is larger than political beefs.. =)
March 31st, 2007 at 11:45 pmZep,
Only a half-good book? :D
March 31st, 2007 at 11:52 pmDoes it seem to anybody else that those sailors had been sent out there like bait to lure the Iranians into capturing them. Either that or it is just convenient timing to give Bush the excuse he’s going to use to justify the next action he takes. Of course another leader might try diplomacy but not Georgie.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:54 pmWell, Briseadh, I look at your manipulation as an interaction on the positive side, for such prayers do have a measurable impact within the noosphere. However, when Democrats starts talking about Al Qaeda in Iraq, that is playing into the dark side of public myth.
We have a lot of these public myths to deal with.
I’m just now coming to understand that we have just a tiny bit of a window to choose how to manage these myths. I feel as though I have been living under a shroud of darkness for 20 years, forced to speak a language that had no basis in reality, but that is changing due to your prayers and the prayers of others.
My question is this — assume that your prayers are being answered, how you would choose to reconfigure the dialectic? Please don’t feel any need to answer that question here and now. I’m putting it out there as one of those questions we need to live, in the sense that Rilke taught:
April 1st, 2007 at 12:00 am
The fact that Dowd has jumped ship doesn’t mean much because he’s still a rat. The important issue it seems is that he wasn’t too scared to jump.
Whatever Rove or the other Bushies have been doing to maintain loyalty amongst them has all of a sudden lost its potency. Really either I missed it or there have been very few cases of anybody turning on them.
Hopefully this is only the beginning of the web of deception unraveling.
April 1st, 2007 at 12:00 amPinch, punch on the 1st of the month.
April 1st, 2007 at 12:06 amDoes it seem to anybody else that those sailors had been sent out there like bait to lure the Iranians into capturing them. Either that or it is just convenient timing to give Bush the excuse he’s going to use to justify the next action he takes.
Comment by shane
It sure looks like it was deliberate. This all went down right after the the language was removed from the funding bill which would have forced Bush/Cheney to seek approval for an Iranian invasion.
Pelosi has said it would be brought up in a stand-alone bill. Webb has one ready to go on the Senate side, but it’s not in the pipeline as far as I know. Justin Raimondo takes it to be a green light.
The problem we have is that it may be too late to stop now. The next two weeks are going to be touch-n-go in my opinion. I wish the Iranians would simply return the sailors, it might force the delay that we need. If that doesn’t happen, I think we can pretty well take the Iranian position as “bring it on, a$$____, we’re tired of this cat-n-mouse game.” Both sides will take huge losses.
April 1st, 2007 at 12:15 am197 comments? too much for the trolls to keep up with!
April 1st, 2007 at 12:16 am197 comments? too much for the trolls to keep up with!
Comment by joe cantwell
They’re getting ready for church. It’s time consuming scrubbing their green skin and filing down their warts — and trying to get the pee smell out of their clothes.
April 1st, 2007 at 12:22 am“I’m glad to see that your heart is larger than political beefs.. =)”
Comment by Zep Tepi
Thank you. I wouldn’t wish such a thing on my worst enemy…
April 1st, 2007 at 12:28 amShane – Good news! There are abundant conspiracy theories out there for you to examine. You could start with “Who really killed JFK” and conclude with Rotund Rosie’s “GWB and the truth of the New World Order”…. This could fill your time with hours and hours of thought provoking entertainment.
Tooodles…..
April 1st, 2007 at 12:31 am#198 I really don’t think it was a deliberate act by the British.
British Version
1 Crew boards merchant ship 1.7NM inside Iraqi waters
2 HMS Cornwall was south-east of this, and inside Iraqi waters
3 Iran tells UK that merchant ship was at a different point, still within Iraqi waters
4 After UK points this out, Iran provides alternative position, now within Iranian waters
Iranian Version
1 Royal Navy crew stray 0.5km inside Iranian waters
2 Iran gives set of co-ordinates to back up their claims
3 According to seized GPS equipment, the Royal Navy crew had previously entered Iranian waters at several other points
4 Iran informs Britain of the position where the crew were seized, inside Iranian waters
Iranian Colonel Setareh, commander of Arvand Coastguard Base:
April 1st, 2007 at 12:41 am“Bearing in mind that British naval boats had previously violated Iranian waters in 2004 and had given commitment in the same year not to repeat this again, they have been handed over to relevant officials for further investigation and the issue is being studied.”
As i recall, a Valiant was a cheap 6-cylinder Plymouth, somewhat similar to a Moped in that, it was ok transportation but not exactly something you’d want your friends to see you driving around.
But, hey, i got way better than that…try on some
Venus Hum ala Blue Man Group
April 1st, 2007 at 12:48 amComment by valiant venus — April 1, 2007 @
Bad news for the rest of the world always seems to make Bushies and trolls like you happy.
The little bit of good karma you get for showing concern isn’t going to make up for the bad karma coming your way from the floods of evil you put out. Oh sorry, shouldn’t have said “PUT OUT” we know that’s a sore spot.
Interesting how any comment that disagrees with your party line is a conspiracy theory. Hey even paranoids like you need to be careful.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:02 ambut not exactly something you’d want your friends to see you driving around
Comment by stonehinge — April 1, 2007 @ 12:48 am
Irony, that’s the same reason Valiant Venom can’t get a date. Apparently the interior of this Valiant is uglier than most. Plus the rides kind of rough and the catalytic converter won’t pass EPA standards.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:11 amRight. Hey, Bush, can you spell Guantanamo? I didn’t think so. How many “hostages†are you holding there? How are you treating your “hostages?â€
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Exactly. I do not defend any military actions against any country, but what surprises me is the hypocresy that Blair and Bush have exercised in this particular event. What about Abu Ghraib? What about Fallujah, Qana and Haditha where CIVILIANS were slaughtered in another war crime that will go unpunish becuz the UN is as tough as US decides.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:21 amAbout Iran and Brits.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:25 amStonehinge, I still can assure that you are a martial artist. You have the profile.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:26 amShane – Good news! There are abundant conspiracy theories out there for you to examine. You could start with “Who really killed JFK†and conclude with Rotund Rosie’s “GWB and the truth of the New World Orderâ€â€¦. This could fill your time with hours and hours of thought provoking entertainment. Tooodles….. Comment by valiant venus — April 1, 2007 @ 12:31 am
Or we could start with *your* conspiracy theory, about how all of Islam is trying to kill *you*, the crazy little twit from San Diego. You’re a st*pid little c*nt – Mighty Wimpy Aphrodite.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:33 amComment by stonehinge — April 1, 2007 @ 12:00 am
What is making news right now is the darkness of man-unkind. Yet there are others, moving in the opposite direction, even as we speak…towards the light. And some of us must be willing to walk both paths to bring balance back, for it is for the darkness to bring destruction and decay, and they have not finished their path yet. They have perverted spirituality through religion for the sake of power. Yet their power is illusory. Breathe away your fears and no one has power over you any longer.
Peace and Blessings.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:48 amShane, valiant venus (Mighty Aphrodite) is a 23 year old single girl that idolizes Ann Coulter. Everything she posts here is nothing more than a fantasy. She’s a lonely disturbed young girl with a serious eating disorder, self image, and overly large adams apple. Here’s her pathetic little myspace page. She’s a lunatic.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=79943506
April 1st, 2007 at 1:50 amYes, Juan, you are correct. Even though I am now disabled, having once seen the moon shining on a still lake, it is impossible to forget that sense of poise and balance. But, I surely didn’t realize it was so obvious even now.
Out of all the possible circumstances one might encounter in this world, I had the great fortune to study Kenjiutsu from an amazingly adept, one-armed swordmaster in a small town in Virginia. He also taught me the Jo, which will always be my favorite — the most versatile weapon ever invented in the history of martial arts.
How about you?
April 1st, 2007 at 2:07 ambreathe away your fears
and the pain, as well.
April 1st, 2007 at 2:09 amThe GOP ship is definitely SINKING and this guy all of a sudden is speaking out? PLEASE!
Why doesn’t he go talk to GPN … Government Propaganda News, aka MSM, or the news stations that no one cares about anymore since all they do is report LIES just like the LYING bush administration.
Blog definitely have killed the MSM, but it would be nice if this bozo Dowd talked about how the TV stations are reporting LIES just like “his” bush.
He’s going down with the GOP ship no matter what cuz blood is on his hands.
And many people have died for bush and Dowd’s LIES.
Shame on him!
:-/
April 1st, 2007 at 3:12 am‘US ready to strike Iran on Good Friday’
The United States will be ready to launch a missile attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities as soon as early this month, perhaps “from 4 a.m. until 4 p.m. on April 6,” according to reports in the Russian media on Saturday.
According to Russian intelligence sources, the reports said, the US has devised a plan to attack several targets in Iran, and an assault could be carried out by launching missiles from fighter jets and warships stationed in the Persian Gulf.
Russian news agency RIA Novosti quoted a security official as saying, “Russian intelligence has information that the US Armed Forces stationed in the Persian Gulf have nearly completed preparations for a missile strike against Iranian territory.”
April 1st, 2007 at 4:37 amTobey, they wont. I’m pretty sure about that. They would like to, but they won’t. That would be like a political suicide bombing. There is no way the GOP can survive such a stupidity. I’m sure they won’t let the boy king do it.
April 1st, 2007 at 7:44 amWe have heard Harriet Miers and now Matthew Dowd declare their love for George, Condi has always been enamoured, Karen Hughes finds him huge, and even Monica Goodling is willing to burn at the stake for him.
Ex-gay marines and male hookers find the pickings easy at GOP job fairs. Mainstream boy stenographers adore his calling them demeaning nicknames. The German public loved Adolph with rhapsodic frenzy as well.
Barbara and Laura and Dad and the wacko macho 30% can’t admit he’s a dismal fake, failure and jerk.
So here’s to father-longings and right-wing man-loving idolatry, fascism’s not so secret aphrodisiac, and America’s neo-con Fuhrer.
Short, stupid and venal as pious George may be, he looks great in an aviator’s suit.
April 1st, 2007 at 8:44 amNot an original thought, I’m sure, but Dowd appears to be your typical rat leaving a sinking ship. Look at his career. Becomes a Republican when Bush looks liike a good thing; now that Democrats have the Big Mo he decides that Obama is attractive. Give me a break!
Don’t let this guy off the hook. He played a big part in putting Bush in power and selling Iraq. Let him roast with the rest of them.
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