Man, your mind fascinates me. Thanks again for sharing.

Although i totally disagree with you, i still appreciate you\’re post. (but you\’re wrong here :) )

I live in Latinamerica, there are no pedestals here but holes.

I am fully aware of the misdeeds of the US. But I knew them before you got on your pedestal.

I live in Mexico but Im from Argentina. I cant vote here nor do I vote in Mexico. I am democracy outcast. However, I dont believe in democracy either. We have democracy here, but 60 million people are poor, I would like somebody tell a poor woman with two kids selling chewing gum under a bridge: What do you worry about? You live in a democracy.
This has nothing to do with our discussion just some personal background.

I dont think the problem is doing something or not, I think we should be aware of what we have done to others. Just that. Thats the only way to progress, in my opinion. I dont know why are you so defensive if you didnt promote or support any of the things you mentioned.

…the TRUTH is not “fair and balanced”…
…and it WILL set one free…
Comment by big papa

Im working on that, big papa. Believe me.

Comment by JPark

Of course.

Comment by Juan C #143

Juan, J Park

…and it WILL set one free…

I can’t say for sure, but there’s a “Jake” over at newshounds the last couple of days. He just showed up….about the same time he quit posting all the time here. Obviously I don’t know it for certain, but it sounds like Jake (w/o the “ignore” list–just giving it time). I hope it is Jake, I would hate to think there were two of them out there.

Of course.

No, it isn’t valid. I don’t support US aggression so your question is misplaced and I do what I can (which isn’t a whole) lot to change it. What would you have me do? Move somewhere else? Apologize to every Native American I meet? For the last time. I support the defense of the US with a military…not any attack, invasion, bombing, black ops that don’t have anything to do with directly defending us.

It is a valid, not insulting question. My point is that justification of wrong doings in the past are no different than justification of wrong doings at present time. Can you see that before you jump on me?

Yes, it is insulting because I have nothing to do with the wrong doings in the past, nor in the present and I don’t see where you come off thinking that I have to answer for everything my government has done or is doing. Do you take blame for everything done by your countries government?

if we didn’t have a military we wouldn’t be here and while that may be fine with you across the pond it is not fine with me.
Comment by JPark

And I went:
hey, Im ok with millions of natives killed, millions of civilians dead in foreign lands for everything but the defense of my freedoms, then what makes me you different from trolls?

This is not an argument. This is a question. Probably a not nice one, but still it is a valid question. So far, your military have specialized in attacking other countries and, looking at Katrina, I wouldnt say the military did a great job (of course, due to the inefficiency of its leaders). So, my question is a valid one.

According to you, you wouldnt be here, if it wasnt for your military; I said what your military has done since the beginning and knowing that you know what your military has done (you said you didnt agree with those actions), I ask you, then whats different, in that line of reasoning, in comparison with someone saying, yeah, invade every country, otherwise we wouldnt be here.

It is a valid, not insulting question. My point is that justification of wrong doings in the past are no different than justification of wrong doings at present time. Can you see that before you jump on me?

just ask for a Bill in Forres

Most did not join with the intention of getting between Bush and his Oedipal bloodfest. Most are not happy with their 3rd tour of duty. Most are not happy doing a job they weren’t trained for. Many are against the war.

You actually consider this a valid argument? It was an attack since I said nothing remotely of the sort. It was a strawman.

I agree well worded – I would not think people join the military for just killing for the sake of, and in different times joining the military could be a worthwhile job

Your prejudices won’t allow you to understand my point of view, will they?