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Drudge Smears CNN’s Michael Ware As Alcoholic Activist, Ware Responds»

CNN’s Baghdad correspondent Michael Ware has reported from Iraq for four years and regularly corrects the record when politicians mislead about conditions on the ground there. Now he’s under attack.

Yesterday, right-wing Internet gossip Matt Drudge posted an “exclusive” report — based on an anonymous, unnamed source — claiming that Ware had acted inappropriately during a weekend press conference and implying that Ware is an alcoholic:

During a live press conference in Bagdad, Senators McCain and Graham were heckled by CNN reporter Michael Ware. An official at the press conference called Ware’s conduct “outrageous,” saying, “here you have two United States Senators in Bagdad giving first-hand reports while Ware is laughing and mocking their comments. I’ve never witnessed such disrespect. This guy is an activist not a reporter.” […]

This morning on CNN, Ware said the attack was a fabrication: “I did not heckle the senator. Indeed, I didn’t say a word. I didn’t even ask a question. In fact, when I raised my hand to ask a question, the press conference abruptly ended.” Watch it:

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Drudge’s “exclusive” also implies that Ware is an alcoholic, quoting an appearance last year on Bill Maher’s HBO comedy show:

Michael Ware has also publicly expressed his views on the war last year in an interview with Bill Maher, saying, “I’ve been given a front-row ticket to watch this slow-motion train wreck … I try to stay as drunk for as long as possible while I’m here … In fact, I’m drinking now.”

It’s clear from the video, which you can watch below the fold, that Ware was joking when he talked about his drinking habits.

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UPDATE: AmericaBlog has more.

CNN transcript:

Let me ask you a question. There was a report that said you were heckling and you were laughing during the senator’s press conference. Is that true?

WARE: Well, let’s bear in mind that this is a report that was leaked by an unnamed official of some kind to a blog, to somewhere on the Internet. No one has gone and put their name forward. We certainly haven’t heard Sen. McCain say anything about it or any of his staff have come forward to say anything about it. I did not heckle the senator. Indeed, I didn’t say a word. I didn’t even ask a question. In fact, when I raised my hand to ask a question, the press conference abruptly ended. So what I would suggest is that anyone who has any queries about whether I heckled, watch the videotape of the press conference. Soledad?




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259 Responses to “Drudge Smears CNN’s Michael Ware As Alcoholic Activist, Ware Responds”

  1. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid Says:

    Another right-wing talking head display the Republican party’s true values: personal attacks and smears. Just like Jesus taught.


  2. KRank Says:

    “Michael Ware has also publicly expressed his views on the war last year in an interview with Bill Maher, saying, “I’ve been given a front-row ticket to watch this slow-motion train wreck … I try to stay as drunk for as long as possible while I’m here … In fact, I’m drinking now.”

    Yeah, that’s proof right there because as everyone knows, alcoholics are always very upfront about their addiction.


  3. Brian in FL Says:

    How dare Ware try to speak the truth the American people like this. He MUST be brought down. We’re only allowed to have the “official White House” version of events in Iraq, not the truth. Who cares what casualty numbers say, or what the Iraq people feel, the right-wing talking heads (safely in their US homes) are telling me Iraq is fine and Iraqis want us there. When have right-wing pundits ever been wrong about anything?

    /end sarcasm


  4. Brian in FL Says:

    By the way, while we’re smearing people, Matt Drudge is a closeted, self-hating homosexual who is wrong on 99.9999% of his “Drudge exclusives”. No amount of flashing sirens will change that.


  5. hellinabucket Says:

    If Rove can joke about ripping the heads off of little animals Ware can surely joke about drinking because of the Hell the Iraqi conflict is.


  6. Zooey Says:

    Frankly, I’m surprised it took this long to start the rightwing smear on Ware.

    He’s a fantastic reporter, and I give his reports more weight than any others coming out of Iraq.


  7. shane Says:

    based on an anonymous, unnamed source

    Oh why don’t they just say Karl Rove. We all know who the #1 annonymous, unamed source is.


  8. owlbear1 Says:

    Drudge=Republican Cultist


  9. Joe Sixpack Says:

    I’d like to see a fist fight between that sissy-assed Matt Drudge and Michael Ware—–Drudge scratching and biting while Ware beats the shit out of him.

    But at any rare, I heard Ware’s response this morning and believe him over an anonymous, unnamed source . Ware has logged more time in the Iraq combat zone than Drudge, Hannity, Limpbaugh, and all the rest of his critics combined.


  10. Mary Poplins Says:

    I wrote to CNN about Michael Ware and told them he was doing a great job. More power to Michael Ware.


  11. Jay Randal Says:

    Drudge is sludge and a certified pathological liar and closeted Gay too.


  12. doro Says:

    If I were Ware and had to see what he sees every day, I’d get drunk and stay so. Given the soberness of his reporting, he is not.

    “In fact, when I raised my hand to ask a question, the press conference abruptly ended.”

    Figures


  13. Rosencrantz Says:

    Ware further commented, “But since Drudge reported it, it must be somewhat true and therefore CNN will run with this story for the next three days.”


  14. whiteyfresh Says:

    WHUTTUP zOOEY!

    The SLUDGE report??!!?

    LYING?Unsubtantiated slander?

    never.


  15. Pinson Says:

    Give Drudge credit, he put this link up also to a report in which Ware slaps the whole thing down.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGc5Vkh_1g

    By the way, what’s up with Lindsey Graham buying five rugs? Maybe he’s redecorating…


  16. AboveTheClouds Says:

    When facts clash with emotion, the GOP tends to side with and endorse the emotional aspect of the story–especially when the facts are contrary to their ideology. They don’t like what Matthew Dowd says about the Bush White House? “He’s having problems at home.” Don’t like the bad news pouring out of Iraq from Michael Ware? “He’s a drunk and unreliable.” Those pesky facts have a way of giving the GOP one kick to the nuts after another.


  17. hil Says:

    they are so very desperate


  18. Zooey Says:

    Hey whitey,

    I’m getting ready to leave for school. How’s it going?


  19. Zooey Says:

    Those pesky facts have a way of giving the GOP one kick to the nuts after another.
    Comment by AboveTheClouds

    Right. As it should be.


  20. hellinabucket Says:

    Ware doesn’t care that his nose is on the side of his face so do you think he cares about this pissant Drudge?

    Six Pack, that would be a quick fight.


  21. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Let’s see, who am I gonna believe, some guy that runs a sh!tty looking web site, that looks like it crawled outta 1992. (Hey Drudge, it’s called web design, get some) or a guy that has been living in Iraq since day one?

    I am gonna go with crappy web site guy.


  22. whiteyfresh Says:

    can I give the GOP one swift kick to the nuts after another??I’ll do it for free…

    :)

    Dandy like candy,Zooey, Dandy like candy…


  23. Jay Randal Says:

    It’s way past time for Drudge to be outed as Gay. Out Rush Limbaugh too.


  24. shane Says:

    This Michael Ware guy is so not a hero. He’s only spent 4 years in Iraq trying to report events. How dare he say things aren’t going great.

    Just because he puts himself in harms way to speak the truth does not mean he should be treated with the same respect as Drudge, O’Reilly and Limbaugh.

    If he does in fact have a drinking problem then he better get to the White House so he can replace Tony Snow PRONTO! Now there’s a job that requires some serious inebriation.


  25. Lily Says:

    I would hope McCain and Graham will respond, but I’m not holding my breath.


  26. barfly Says:

    During a live press conference in Bagdad, Senators McCain and Graham were heckled by CNN reporter Michael Ware. An official at the press conference called Ware’s conduct “outrageous,

    Drudge asserting through proxy (because that’s really what this “unnamed source” is) that Ware’s conduct was “outrageous” is black humorous in a silly sort of way, coming as it does from The Eggman.


  27. Dreary Urbanite Says:

    #15 – Perhaps Graham and his family are closeted Allah worshipers – can’t let that get out.


  28. JT Says:

    Drudge, your credibility is in serious doubt. You had better produce evidence NOW, i.e., a videotape of Ware “laughing,” or face serious declines in your readership.

    The clock is ticking…Until then, I reserve judgment on the merits.


  29. Dr Benway Says:

    So instead of debating the serious topic of how bad things have become/are becoming in Baghdad and Iraq, we get the standard GOP yelling match. The debate will now become a “he said/he said” argument over whether a left leaning reported (since fact are known to have a liberal bias) said or did something to disrespect those in power. Because you known we haven’t changed since the 60’s, when we were a bunch of rude and unwashed hippies.

    Meanwhile our soldiers and innocent Iraqis die daily.


  30. Kay Says:

    Meanwhile, it’s noticable that the latest bizzare rants from Chimpy :

    he’s been hitting the sauce.

    Let’s talk about this GOP.


  31. Joe Sixpack Says:

    By the way, what’s up with Lindsey Graham buying five rugs? Maybe he’s redecorating…
    Comment by Pinson

    Just another rich Repuglican taking advantage of some desperate guy trying to put a meal on his table.

    What gets me is that Graham has the GALL to brag about only paying $5 bucks total for them. Even in Iraq that is absolutely a basement price, and it just serves as an outrageous display of an American politican taking advantage of a poor merchant.

    Lindsey Graham showed just what a classless, Repuglican butthole he really is.


  32. Zimzone Says:

    I’d rather have a bottle in front of me, (Ware),
    than a Frontal Lobotomy’. (Drudge).

    Boy, more lies from the Bushlickers in the ethernet this Monday a.m. than usual.
    W, life is like a sled…once you start going downhill, you go faster & faster & faster. Hitting bottom is the real bitch. Hang on tight, your ride is just about over.


  33. unbelievable Says:

    As usual, when they can’t debate the issues, they attack the messenger…

    Drudge is a test for your sanity. How much you believe him equals how much Lithium you need…


  34. Dreary Urbanite Says:

    Has anyone else been expecting Gonzo and/or other members of the justice department to admit that they have a drinking problem and checking in to rehab? That seems to be a normal repub response to getting caught.


  35. Clyde the Ripper Says:

    …“here you have two United States Senators in Bagdad (sic) giving first-hand reports while Ware is laughing and mocking their comments. I’ve never witnessed such disrespect.”

    Obviously Drudge has never paid any attention to the reception those two fools masquerading as Senators get at home.


  36. I WORFEUS Says:

    Next time a right wing idiot tries to reference the Drudge Report in a debate, I suggest laughing and heckling them.


  37. shane Says:

    Hey if Graham had given the merchant more than $5 for 5 rugs that guy would have taken those big profits and supported the terrorists - after all they ARE all in Iraq, aren’t they?


  38. trueblue Says:

    Lindsey Graham showed just what a classless, Repuglican butthole he really is.
    Comment by Joe Sixpack

    Oh, c’mon, Joe.

    Don’t be shy.

    Tell us how you really feel.

    :}


  39. barfly Says:

    What gets me is that Graham has the GALL to brag about only paying $5 bucks total for them. Even in Iraq that is absolutely a basement price, and it just serves as an outrageous display of an American politican taking advantage of a poor merchant.

    Another term from the Vietnam war era that’s making a resurgence:

    Ugly American.


  40. buzzbomb Says:

    Ware has abudantly more creditbility than Graham or Mccookoo. When’s the last time Mccain met members of Al Queda in Iraq face to face?

    If I had been in Iraq as long as Ware has and seen the things he has seen, I be drinking like crazy too. Drudge is a limp wristed little sally that should get his ass over to McCain’s Iraqi funzones and do a little broadcasting.


  41. trueblue Says:

    Check out the above thread.

    Snipers are back at the marketplace McCain visited yesterday.

    That’s progress. No snipers for 1 friggin’ day.


  42. tarazan Says:

    Did Drudge buy $5.00 rug from that peaceful street in Baghdad?!!


  43. tarazan Says:

    Michael Ware was attacked because his story on CNN contradicted McCain and senator’s Graham stories about the situation in Iraq.

    Time for ’swift boating’…


  44. DM Says:

    Drudge is an idiot. Really, truly… a bona-fide e-vegetable.


  45. veritas Says:

    Ware’s telling the truth; anything else is pure drivel & propaganda. We can see for ourselves that what Drudge is dredging up is nonsense.


  46. klyde Says:

    …“here you have two United States Senators in Bagdad (sic) giving first-hand reports while Ware is laughing and mocking their comments. I’ve never witnessed such disrespect.”

    No one but barbara cartland characters talk like that. But rethugs eat the shit up.


  47. Hedley Lamarr Says:

    I’m not sure I want to be here for the 2008 election, if this crap has begun already.


  48. skeptic Says:

    Graham, Mc Cain regular carpet baggers , shamefull lies , shameless bragging. And we went to war for these a….holes


  49. Litz Says:

    Drudge is pretty quick on that “smear the messenger” thing. I see Karl Rove is handling not using e-mail just fine.


  50. pgw Says:

    maybe alcoholism’s contagious, and ware’s been hanging out with christopher hitchens


  51. VerbalKint Says:

    Baseless, cowardly attacks like this are the right wing’s stock in trade. It is all they know.


  52. AboveTheClouds Says:

    Graham got 5 rugs for 5 bucks, but those rugs cost McCain his chance for the White House.


  53. s Says:

    I’m tired of the bitching and moaning about Drudge. Why do we stop there? Why do people accept his constant slander, libel, lies etc etc? I’ll tell you why. Because we’ve all been dumbed down and desensitized over time. That’s why. It’s time to sue the bastard and repeatedly….every time he does it.

    LEGAL DEFINITION OF SLANDER:
    slander n. oral defamation, in which someone tells one or more persons an untruth about another which untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. Slander is a civil wrong (tort) and can be the basis for a lawsuit. Damages (payoff for worth) for slander may be limited to actual (special) damages unless there is malicious intent, since such damages are usually difficult to specify and harder to prove. Some statements such as an untrue accusation of having committed a crime, having a loathsome disease, or being unable to perform one’s occupation are treated as slander per se since the harm and malice are obvious, and therefore usually result in general and even punitive damage recovery by the person harmed. Words spoken over the air on television or radio are treated as libel (written defamation) and not slander on the theory that broadcasting reaches a large audience as much if not more than printed publications


  54. Zimzone Says:

    Did they bring home a rug for Specter?
    His is wearing thin & needs a dye job badly.


  55. eisenreich Says:

    Raw has a story with video refuting Drudge’s claims:
    http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2007/ CNN_reporter_slams_Drudges_charge_that_0402.html


  56. not the senator Says:

    Michael Ware is an “…an alchoholic” and Matthew Dowd “…is suffering from personal problems.”

    When they can’t defend the message, attack the messenger. Will some day the media call this administration on their smearing of any and all critics?


  57. I WORFEUS Says:

    Does everybody see now?

    We have been heralding this feature of the right wing for years now.

    When ANYONE, and I do mean ANYONE, dares to challenge anything the right wing says, they do not attempt to discredit the challenge, but instead attack the challenger.

    Does everybody see that?

    Forget Michael Ware has been imbedded in Iraq since the beginning. Forget he has worked with the Military and the Iraqi’s and has the BEST first hand real time information out there. Forget he has risked his life on a day in day out basis, for FOUR YEARS.

    Forget all that.

    Some pompous, arrogant little right wing prick says he’s a bad guy now, because he won’t say what they want him to say.

    Forget discrediting his information.

    Just discredit him.


  58. 186 Says:

    Hey big thinkers, your own headline is more misleading than Drudge’s whole story. Drudge repeated Ware’s own words verbatim from his Bill Maher appearance.

    The alluding to, or word alcoholic was never used, and the only mention of drinking or alcohol was the quote from Mike Ware himself.

    Michael Ware has also publicly expressed his views on the war last year in an interview with Bill Maher, saying, “I’ve been given a front-row ticket to watch this slow-motion train wreck … I try to stay as drunk for as long as possible while I’m here … In fact, I’m drinking now.”

    How deceptively ignorant can you guys get?

    Reading comprehension - Try it sometime.

    Funny how progressives hate it when you confront them with their own words.
    Game, set and match!


  59. I WORFEUS Says:

    Bush was right about one thing.

    This is about good and evil.


  60. The Daily Background » Blog Archive » Drudge’s claims about Michael Ware fail to pan out Says:

    […] turned out to be totally false. He isn’t running a correction, but Ware has responded, saying the following: Well, let’s bear in mind that this is a report that was leaked by an unnamed official of some […]


  61. Michael Says:

    Give Lindsey Graham some credit. He is going to make a killing on ebay.


  62. I WORFEUS Says:

    Game, set and match!

    Comment by 1986 — April 2, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    So you are suggesting Drudge did not state that Ware is a liberal activist?

    Are you suggesting Drudge did not state that Ware “HECKLED” the senator, when all he did was raise his hand to ask a question?

    Better buy a calculator if you think that is the match.

    Bozo.


  63. JPark Says:

    #186 Game, set and match!

    Sorry there buddy, you can’t referee your own debate, which I might add, was pathetic. This reading comprehension you speak of? Try it some time. Did Drudge mention it was clearly a joke? No? Then he was using it to smear Ware. Simple as that. Oh, wait Drudge and pathetic right wing zombies like you wouldn’t take something out of context!!!!


  64. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    186 sez:

    Drudge repeated Ware’s own words verbatim from his Bill Maher appearance.

    Yes, but he repeated them out of context. Or can’t you see that?


  65. katy Says:

    … puff puff … mowing break… i forgot about that damned part of spring…

    just want to say, i remember that interview with maher… it did bring a chuckle… i knew it was “tongue-in-cheek”…

    however - if ANYone deserves to get sloshed over there, it’s ware…


  66. DRxJ Says:

    How deceptively ignorant can you guys get?
    Reading comprehension - Try it sometime.
    Funny how progressives hate it when you confront them with their own words.
    Game, set and match!
    Comment by 186′d — April 2, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    Ummm, reading comprehension you say? Okay, from the thread directly:
    Drudge’s “exclusive” also implies that Ware is an alcoholic, quoting an appearance last year on Bill Maher’s HBO comedy show:

    Hmmm, implies? What doest that mean, exactly? Oh, well here’s a good definition…
    To express in a suggestive manner rather than as a direct statement.

    So, you’re overall argument of a misleading headline is now debunked!
    Game Set Match indeed!
    And since you’re in a combative, but defeated mood, please explain the relevence of Ware’s sarcastic statement of drinking every day to his non existent outrageous behaviour at a press conference?
    Take your time in not responding!


  67. Dave Says:

    Druge, in typical “pretend it never happend” fashion, has pulled the Michael Ware smear from his site.

    I really need to start a site that simply lists all of the Drudge “exclusives” that turn out to be nothing more than fabricated lies…


  68. Gregor Samsa Says:

    The alluding to, or word alcoholic was never used, […]
    Comment by 186 — April 2, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    The word was never used, but the implication was clear: quoting Ware as if he were serious was to grossly misrepresent what happened during his appearance in Maher’s how.

    and the only mention of drinking or alcohol was the quote from Mike Ware himself.

    Yes, and he was joking. That much is quite obvious to anyone with half a brain.

    How deceptively ignorant can you guys get?
    Reading comprehension - Try it sometime.

    This is really rich coming from you, the one with the biggest reading comprehension problem who is trying to spin away the obvious.

    Game, set and match!

    LOL -yeah, do your victory lap too! You won the “debate” in your own mind! Woo hoo!!


  69. devin Says:

    -this is what the dogs of war in d.c. accuse all those who are telling the TRUTH

    “It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face, was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime ”

    - George Orwell’s 1984, page 54


  70. Wayne Says:

    Rawstory has the unedited video up, showing Drudge is a liar and showing evidence to support Ware.

    http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2007/ CNN_reporter_slams_Drudges_charge_that_0402.html


  71. Dale Says:

    Are you really surprised that Drudge got something wrong? As a harvester/presenter of news, he does a fair job (he use to do much better)… but as an unbiased analyst? Fugedaboudit.


  72. Mary Poplins Says:

    When this war is done Michael Ware should SUIT Drudge for slander.


  73. klyde Says:

    Game, set and match!
    Comment by 186

    Delusional rethug thinking at it’s finest. They really do live in an alternate reality.


  74. shane Says:

    Comment by 186 — April 2, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    Why don’t you watch the tape you ignorant ass wipe. I guess you don’t get “tongue in cheek” humor. None of you Fox News idiots do.

    And next time you type a transcription of the words why don’t you type all the words that are said.

    HI JAKE


  75. I WORFEUS Says:

    Matt Drudge LIED.

    He said Ware “Heckled” during the press conference.

    But unfortunately for Matt Drudge the LIAR, we have the video tape of the press confernece and it shows Michael Ware DIDN’T SAY ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are we learning yet troll number 186?

    Drudge is a liar.

    You are a liar.


  76. I WORFEUS Says:

    Bush said this is about good and evil.

    And he was right.

    Good= Truth

    Evil= Lie


  77. shane Says:

    Game, set and match!
    Comment by 186

    You and your bowling buddies should learn that Game, set and match is a tennis score.

    And yes, I am suggesting you are an ignorant a**hole.


  78. BK Says:

    Matt Who?

    Sludge? Never heard of him.


  79. I WORFEUS Says:

    Well troll number 186?

    What is your answer to that?

    Drudge stated that Ware heckled.

    The video shows Ware didn’t say a word.

    :|

    No answer?

    Ok. Very well then.

    Game.

    Set.

    Match.


  80. shane Says:

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 2, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

    But, but, but Ware raised his hand to ask a question and McCain poopied his pants. Ware MUST have been drunk to think you can get an answer from a Republican.


  81. chimpeach Says:

    Gee, I’ve never known Drudge to lie his ass off before. This is so unusual.

    /sarc

    Didn’t McCain hire a bunch of Bush’s dirty campaign pros to work on his campaign? Leave it to some Rove wannabes to spread some bullshit like that.


  82. Drudge = false rumors « Later On Says:

    […] This morning on CNN, Ware said the attack was a fabrication: “I did not heckle the senator. Indeed, I didn’t say a word. I didn’t even ask a question. In fact, when I raised my hand to ask a question, the press conference abruptly ended.” Watch it. […]


  83. helenahandbasket Says:

    This is not on sludge’s site today. It was on yesterday with his infamous
    ‘developing” e.g. We’ll make up more stuff as we go.
    I feel a little filthy, after briefly visiting the sludge factory.


  84. Gregor Samsa Says:

    In BushCult-land, raising your hand to ask a question is heckling and can earn you the label “radical leftist extremist”.

    You are not supposed to question your betters, don’t cha know?

    /sarcasm off


  85. Topper Says:

    It’s obvious that Rove et al. have decided to smear Ware because he consistently gives honest, powerful reportage from Iraq, all of which consistently contradicts the rose scenario purveyors. The iron is that they will get Ware more attention and more credibility by attacking him in such a foolish and dishonest way.


  86. Basharov Says:

    It’s way past time for Drudge to be outed as Gay.

    David Brock (who’s gay himself) already outed The Eggman in his book Blinded by the Right.

    Not that the wingnut moral brigade cares, as long as Drudge serves its purposes.


  87. I WORFEUS Says:

    This is not on sludge’s site today.

    Comment by helenahandbasket — April 2, 2007 @ 2:35 pm

    I was able to read it on his site.

    Here is where it is.


  88. phil Says:

    Ware drinks to much and works for the Clinton News Network


  89. Zooey Says:

    Looks like piss-soaked troll 186 took a page out of the Drudge training manual.


  90. I WORFEUS Says:

    The right wing trolls in here, not to mention a lot of CNN and MSNBC pundits, like Chris Matthews, like to point to Drudge as a fair and balanced voice.

    Now we can put that misguided theory to rest.

    Once and for all.


  91. I WORFEUS Says:

    Ware drinks to much and works for the Clinton News Network

    Comment by pauxatauny phil — April 2, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    Thank you Joe Goebbels.


  92. I WORFEUS Says:

    I think its about time to punch every right winger we see, right in their big, fat lying mouths.


  93. DRxJ Says:

    Ware drinks to much and works for the Clinton News Network

    Comment by phil a show — April 2, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    Glad you could take the time out of your very hectic schedule to show us again why you’re the master of debate.
    (do your parents know you’re using their computer again?)


  94. Xenon Says:

    I’ve always liked Ware: next to Amanpour, he’s the only other objective voice CNN has.


  95. phil Says:

    Why are liberals so full of hate?


  96. chris Says:

    What Michael Ware has is a good memory, unlike the geriatric McCain.

    Ware has heard some many lies about success in Iraq that he no longer falls for them and he has no problem pointing out McCain simply spouting propaganda.

    Unlike McCain, who drudge also pointed out, on the same day, couldn’t remember if Kerry asked him to be his VP candidate.

    Why would anyone trust someone who’s memory is that poor?


  97. JPark Says:

    #92 Aww, phil. Typical wingnut. Always the victim.


  98. Brian in FL Says:

    Phil,

    Because we’re sick of being lied to, and we’re sick of people who dare to tell the truth being attacked or criticized (or, in some cases, their wives’ CIA identities exposed).


  99. valiant venus Says:

    Yeah, that’s proof right there because as everyone knows, alcoholics are always very upfront about their addiction.”
    Comment by KRank

    Depends if they are still lying to themselves about the problem their drinking is causing OR if they 12 Steppers….(Pssst….nothing to do with “Dancing with the Stars” or “Men in Drag”)


  100. I WORFEUS Says:

    Why are liberals so full of hate?

    Comment by phil — April 2, 2007 @ 3:31 pm

    So you call carpet bombing, then invading a country, slaughtering their citizens like cattle, imprisoning them by the 10’s of thousands, destroying their homes, buildings and infrastructure, and act of love?

    In fact, don’t bother to answer that, I am sure you do.

    What I hate jackass, is evil.

    And you are evil.


  101. frances Says:

    when I read your story I went straight to the CNN comments link and send in glowing praise of Ware.

    I also pointed out that being attacked by Drudge was further indication of how capable and effective a reporter he is.

    Could I suggest you ask all your readers to contact CNN as well as the other blogs, on his behalf, he certainly deserves everyone’s support.


  102. McE Says:

    You’re right 186, “Game, set and match”

    or how about “Mission Accomplished”? That seems to have worked out well….


  103. I WORFEUS Says:

    And if anyone thinks its over the top to call this clown “evil”, just remember this.

    The greatest tool of evil, is the lie.

    Always has been.

    Always will be.


  104. Patrick1 Says:

    Ware is basically a puppet who says whatever his Al Qaeda stringers tell him to say.


  105. klyde Says:

    Patrick1

    One troll scurries away with it’s tail between it’s legs and another shows up!


  106. Brian in FL Says:

    PROOF DRUDGE LIED ABOUT THE PRESS CONFERENCE:

    http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2007/ CNN_reporter_slams_Drudges_charge_that_0402.html

    See the video for yourself. Where did Ware “heckle” in any way???

    Drudge and the right-wing blogs LIE, once again.


  107. Patrick1 Says:

    First, note that it took Michael Ware a bit of time to actually deny he heckled McCain.

    Second, note that Ware spends the first part of the interview accusing McCain and others of repackaging old news as new. McCain said he has never been able to go out into the city as he has been now. Michael Ware says that generals do it all the time, so this is not news, but propaganda according to Ware.

    Here’s the funny thing though, Ware said the things McCain mentioned as showing signs of progress are “no way a sign of the real progress of the surge, which the Senators should be talking about.” And his vocal emphasis was on the words “which” and “should.” Go see and listen for yourself. Start at 1:20 mark.

    What this tells me is that Michael Ware thinks there were other signs that the surge is working and McCain and the administration *should* focus on those signs.

    My question is, has Michael Ware? Every report I’ve seen from him in Iraq has been to emphasize what a disaster the war has been and is. He is not focusing on the signs of progress either. Instead, he’s using his unique outlet to the world to convey terrorist propaganda films of the terrorists killing American troops while Ware willingly provides commentary.

    Why is Ware still at CNN?


  108. VerbalKint Says:

    Looks like 186 is just another pathetic troll making a cowardly hit, then running away with its tail between its legs.


  109. JPark Says:

    #104 You pathetic plagiarizer. You just took that from a post at Red State and copied it here. Pathetic little cypher.


  110. Brian in FL Says:

    http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2007/ CNN_reporter_slams_Drudges_charge_that_0402.html

    Patrick1, open that link. It has video of the actual press conference in question. Please, open the link and see for yourself what happened. How is Ware “heckling” anyone? He doesn’t even get to speak or ask a single question. He doesn’t do anything wrong at all. This entire effort to smear him is just disgusting.

    In case you didn’t know, about a week ago, Michael Ware was on the air saying Democrats were “aiding the enemies of America” by putting together a plan to withdraw in a year, so he’s obviously not a partisan Democrat, or even in favor of withdrawal from Iraq, despite your efforts to paint him as some kind of anti-war leftist.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200703090006


  111. Wayne Says:

    Comment by Patrick1

    the video footage seen linked by me and a few others, shows it happened just as Ware stated.

    Guess that make both you and Drudge liars.
    But we already knew those facts too, patrick dumbass


  112. Patrick1 Says:

    And it is wrong how?


  113. VerbalKint Says:

    What this tells me is that Michael Ware thinks there were other signs that the surge is working and McCain and the administration *should* focus on those signs.

    Who the f*ck are you trying to kid, Patrick1? What a joke. Why don’t you tell us about some crazy a*s interpretation of Revelations, while you’re at it.

    Sheesh, talk about inventing reality out of nothing. You should audition to replace Krauthammer when he finally blows one fuse too many.


  114. VerbalKint Says:

    #106 Way to go, JPark.

    Hard takedown, Patrick1. What are you going to do about it?


  115. Jake Says:

    Clinton smeared Michael Ware as an alcoholic activist too.


  116. DRxJ Says:

    Why is Ware still at CNN?

    Comment by Patrick1inch — April 2, 2007 @ 4:23 pm

    I’ve read Patrick’s posts. Actually, I’ve tried to read and comprehend them. As JPark has pointed out, that was no Patrick post on #104. (But he does get brownie points for figuring out the cutty and pasty thing on his puter screen)


  117. VerbalKint Says:

    STFU, Jake. You are a loser. Go crawl back into your slimy hole.


  118. I WORFEUS Says:

    Ware is basically a puppet who says whatever his Al Qaeda stringers tell him to say.

    Comment by Pricktrick1 — April 2, 2007 @ 4:08 pm

    Like I said folks.

    Right in their big, fat, mouths.


  119. Wayne Says:

    Clinton smeared Michael Ware as an alcoholic activist too.
    Comment by Jake

    Another liar pops up his ugly head.


  120. JPark Says:

    #111 If his post is any longer than a sentence, you know it isn’t him. Quick Google…busted.


  121. Brian in FL Says:

    Michael Ware = the right’s new “Jamil Hussein”.

    Pretend one single messenger has an agenda, or is lying, and you can use that to discredit ALL reporting out of Iraq.

    This is just the latest effort by the right to hide their heads in the sand.

    They’re not even logical in their delusions. If everything in Iraq is fine, why did we even need a “surge” in the first place? According to the right-wingnuts like powerline, or michelle malkin, etc., all these negative stories are just lies, and Iraq is going really well. Why did we need the “surge” of more troops then?

    If you can stroll down the streets of Baghdad without protection, THEN WHY ARE WE STILL THERE???? That sounds like we’ve stabilized the country, so can begin withdrawing, right??? Mission accomplished, right?


  122. VerbalKint Says:

    I love it when a pathetic little troll sticks its little head out of its little shell and has it promptly chopped off. How about, 186? How about it Patrick1? How do you losers feel about that?


  123. DRxJ Says:

    Clinton smeared Michael Ware as an alcoholic activist too.
    Comment by Jake(NoDebate) — April 2, 2007 @ 4:31 pm

    And Jake stated that a woman should just lay back and enjoy her rape!
    Kinda tells you something about Jake as a NeoCon, eh?


  124. VerbalKint Says:

    It all makes me wonder why losers like Jake and Patrick1 show up day after day, peddling the same ridiculous lies no matter what.


  125. I WORFEUS Says:

    Well, since about 70 percent of the country agrees with us, and 30 percent of the country agree with dumb and dumber here, all they are doing by smearing this man, is making people who didn’t really notice him before, like him.

    :O

    oops


  126. VerbalKint Says:

    Jake and Patrick, I wish you guys luck trying to explain ten years from now why you continued to support the Bush regime long after it was discredited and destined for nearly universal condemnation.


  127. Zooey Says:

    Clinton smeared Michael Ware as an alcoholic activist too.
    Comment by Jake

    Prove it, asswipe.


  128. pgw Says:

    has ware gone on the cable news talk shows drunk like christopher hitchens? i didn’t think so. if the beltway was on old kung fu movie, hitchens would play “the drunken master.”


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  130. W Says:

    WhiteHouse’s favorite DrudgeReport Headlines:

    http://www.whitehouse.org/ask/mdrudge.asp


  131. Mike B Says:

    Am I the only one who noticed that the date of this report is April Fool’s Day?


  132. ForTruth Says:

    Drudge needs to get his pap smear.


  133. Zooey Says:

    Just imagine the fight Ware was in to have his nose end up sideways like that. I’d like to see Drudge in a fight with Ware.


  134. shane Says:

    Why are liberals so full of hate?

    Comment by phil — April 2, 2007 @ 3:31 pm

    Because neocons exist.


  135. Tracy Says:

    #134

    Well at least you admit it.


  136. I WORFEUS Says:

    Well at least you admit it.

    Comment by Tracy — April 2, 2007 @ 6:03 pm

    We hate lies.

    We hate deception.

    We hate corruption.

    We hate murderers.

    :|

    Which one of those did you have a problem with again?


  137. JPark Says:

    #135 I am rubber and you are glue…I know you are but what am I. Hold on, let me get my 4th grader and see what other gems we can come up with.


  138. ForTruth Says:

    I know I am but what are you?


  139. Tracy Says:

    #136

    I pitty you for hating so much.


  140. ForTruth Says:

    Tracy has pitty, what’s that, some new underarm infection?


  141. Zooey Says:

    #136 I pitty you for hating so much.
    Comment by Tracy

    Wow, completely missed the point, didn’t you?

    I hate bad spelling: P-I-T-Y



  142. helenahandbasket Says:

    tracy: I “pity” you for not taking more ESL classes.


  143. I WORFEUS Says:

    #136

    I pitty you for hating so much.

    Comment by Tracy — April 2, 2007 @ 6:26 pm

    Really?

    So lets see, what things did I say I hated in the post you are criticizing?

    Hmmm..

    Lies. Deception. Corruption. Murderers.

    So, if you pity me for hating these things, then that means you do not hate these things.

    :|

    So there you have it people. A right wing troll, Tracy, admits what he embraces.

    Lies. Deception. Corruption and Murder.


  144. john Says:

    If this was Drudge’s idea of an April Fool joke…It was a very BAD one.


  145. Tracy Says:

    It was as understandable untill the one about hating murderers. It’s different than the previous three I WORFEUS posted.


  146. Lora Says:

    Why are liberals so full of hate?
    Comment by phil

    Sorry, but I don’t exactly see you neoCON trolls spreading love here. And am I to believe that neoCON pundits like Ann-thrax Coulter, Rush Limpballs, Bill O’Lielly, Michelle Malice, etc. are making big bucks by spreading words of tolerance towards those with different political sentiments?
    Look in the mirror before asking such hypocritical questions.


  147. Tracy Says:

    #143

    A typo and you expect me to know what ESL classes are? You however seem to know what they are.


  148. Tracy Says:

    #144

    “So, if you pity me for hating these things, then that means you do not hate these things.”

    Again, understandable and in agreement for all of those except hating murderers. You were OK untill you put a noun in.


  149. ForTruth Says:

    Tracy, relax, its just a bunch of rabid libs attacking you.


  150. I WORFEUS Says:

    It was as understandable untill the one about hating murderers. It’s different than the previous three I WORFEUS posted.

    Comment by Tracy — April 2, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    I hate murderers.

    But I am sure you love them.

    You and Jesus.


  151. Tracy Says:

    “Look in the mirror before asking such hypocritical questions.”

    Just because I might listen to those you mentioned doesn’t mean I hate others here or otherwise. I disagree very much, but I don’t hate anyone.


  152. Tracy Says:

    #151

    Again…I pity you for hating murders.


  153. I WORFEUS Says:

    Just because I might listen to those you mentioned doesn’t mean I hate others here or otherwise. I disagree very much, but I don’t hate anyone.

    Comment by DICK Tracy — April 2, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

    Who cares?

    Who cares what you “feel”.

    Its what you do that counts.

    Hundreds of thousands of people have died because of your “opinion”.

    F#$k your opinion, and you along with it.


  154. Tracy Says:

    #150

    It’s OK, they are here for my entertainment.


  155. I WORFEUS Says:

    Tracy, relax, its just a bunch of rabid libs attacking you.

    Comment by ForTruth — April 2, 2007 @ 6:47 pm

    Yea, imagine that.

    A right wing blog troll who starts trouble at every turn, being “attacked” in a liberal blog.

    Who’dve thunk it?

    :|

    You two should get a room.


  156. I WORFEUS Says:

    #151

    Again…I pity you for hating murders.

    Comment by Tracy — April 2, 2007 @ 6:51 pm

    And I pity you for supporting them.


  157. Lora Says:

    #152
    The advice was directed at phil, who originally, posted the question. If you are taking it personally, maybe I ought to paraphrase the Bard: Methinks the troll doth protest too much.”


  158. Tracy Says:

    #154

    LOL!…and I am one inch from from you LITTLE face.


  159. john Says:

    Republican thought is not really about ideology.It is a MENTAL ILLNESS that is taking this great country down the drain.


  160. dixie blood Says:

    DRUDGE = SLUDGE
    DRUDGE = CUA (Completely Useless American)!!


  161. JPark Says:

    #159 Get help.


  162. Tracy Says:

    No one cares that Michael Ware put a al Qaeda propoganda video on CNN?


  163. I WORFEUS Says:

    #154

    LOL!…and I am one inch from from you LITTLE face.

    Comment by DICK Tracy — April 2, 2007 @ 6:55 pm

    I’m sorry, was there supposed to be a sentence in there?

    Don’t try to talk tough here skippy, or I’ll pop those zits on that pimpled pigskin you call a face.


  164. I WORFEUS Says:

    No one cares that Michael Ware put a al Qaeda propoganda video on CNN?

    Comment by Tracy — April 2, 2007 @ 7:04 pm

    So has the White House numbskull.

    We see Al Qaeda propaganda videos that were given to CNN by the DOJ.

    So whats your point?


  165. ForTruth Says:

    Nope i aint gettin a room with her.


  166. circusfifthfloor Says:

    Sorry if I missed it, but has CNN denounced the sliming? Should that have two m’s?


  167. big papa Says:

    John McCain should take HIS family, Matt Drudgery’s family, and T’rashy Tacy’s family…

    …to Baghdad on vacation and a shopping spree…

    …WITHOUT the security…

    …take Bushiva,L’il Dick,Rove,and ALLof their right wing TREASONOUS hordes…

    …and let them ALL resettle Tal Afar and the Baghdad suburbs…

    …no good scummy a*s racist mass murdering pigs….


  168. big Says:

    im surprised ware has time between cocktails to air terror propaganda tapes of our troops being snipered. go on michael, tell us more about the war with the lowest number of casualites in our nations history….


  169. big Says:

    wilson : 117,000 casualties (germany never attacked us)
    roosevelt: 458,000 casualties (germany never attacked us again)
    truman: 55,000 casualties (korea never attacked us)
    johnson: 58,000 casualties (vietnam never attacked us)

    bush: 3,200 casualties (iraq never attacked us)

    yet you cooks admire your great liberal mass murderers, and spew lies and hatred about the man fighting to keep you alive every day? too much kool aid at your pot parties kiddies.


  170. big papa Says:

    Comment by big #170

    You dumb a*s trick…

    …you’re being bankrupted by a mass murdering TREASONOUS, criminal cabal…

    …and you’re so racist and AFRAID that the Bushite-Halliburton- Fox Propaganda Corporation…

    …have your stupid a*s who*ing for them to bankrupt your children, grandchildren and GREAT-grandchildren…

    …while your POOR silly a*s is here in desperate, destroyed DUHmerica…

    …your gods Bushiva,L’il dick and company…

    …will be laughing at your starving redneck a*s in Dubai…


  171. Drudge Smears CNNs Michael Ware As Alcoholic Activist, Ware Responds (w/vid « Tons of Fresh News Says:

    […] Smears CNNs Michael Ware As Alcoholic Activist, Ware Responds (w/vid Drudge Smears CNNs Michael Ware As Alcoholic Activist, Ware Responds (w/vid Video of Michael Ware responding to a report on DrudgeReport that he “heckled” Sen. […]


  172. I WORFEUS Says:

    wilson : 117,000 casualties (germany never attacked us)
    roosevelt: 458,000 casualties (germany never attacked us again)
    truman: 55,000 casualties (korea never attacked us)
    johnson: 58,000 casualties (vietnam never attacked us)

    bush: 3,200 casualties (iraq never attacked us)

    Comment by big bozo — April 2, 2007 @ 9:30 pm

    Lets see, Germany was invading France, Poland, Beligium and bombing the crap out of our closest ally, England.

    North Korea was invading the ROK (Republic of South Korea)

    In Viet Nam the DRV and the Viet Cong had attacked the RVN and were trying to spread communisim throughout southeast Asia.

    Iraq was trapped by us on all sides and currently doing nothing when we bombed the shit out of them.

    Jackass.

    Get a job.


  173. Raymond Funamoto Says:

    #4 Brian–Thanks for your info on Drudge—I had long suspected him of being a closet homosexual like CHIMPya, Rove, Cheney, most all of Bushland Uber Allies and a lot of repugnant-repugs in congress—-STRANGE how these gay ganders LIKE TO REVILE gays isn’t it—THEY HAVE A LOT OF EMOTIONAL AND SANITY ISSUES COMPOUNDED BY THEIR OWN SELF-LOATHING—-in Drudge’s case, his SWIFT-BOAT-SMEARS are an extension of his homosexual wish to DEVOUR EXCREMENT AND SPREAD IT ALL OVER HIS OWN BODY AND ONTO OTHERS IN A COPROPHAGIC DESIRE TO SMEAR HIMSELF AND OTHERS LIKE MICHAEL WARE


  174. big Says:

    I WORFEUS

    iraq had killed 400,000 of its own people, 750,000 of its neighbors, invaded two of hits neighbors, launched missles at our ally israel, paid money to families of suicide bombers, bribed half the security council in the oil for food scandal, violated 14 u.n. resolutions…..yea swell place….

    using the same liberal view that iraq and saddam were “contained”, then why not apply that logic to the latest liberal cause in darfur. darfur is part of sudan, sudan is contained, they are not doing anything to us, so why stop them from killing their own people? is a life in darfur more important then a life in iraq? i guess in the democrat primary it is.


  175. I WORFEUS Says:

    iraq had killed 400,000 of its own people, 750,000 of its neighbors, invaded two of hits neighbors, launched missles at our ally israel, paid money to families of suicide bombers, bribed half the security council in the oil for food scandal, violated 14 u.n. resolutions…..yea swell place….

    Comment by big brownshirt — April 2, 2007 @ 10:30 pm

    You’re an idiot.

    Iraq was in a box.

    If you remember 2003 you’ll remember that Saddam had to sleep in a different house EVERY NIGHT.

    Moron.

    The CIA said they were literally down to only about 6 hours behind him, and they were getting closer.

    You’re a fool.

    We all know Saddam was a bad guy. And the CIA was going to get him sooner or later. But you idiots thought he was worth more than 3000 Americans dead, 20,000 wounded, half a million dead Iraqi’s and millions wounded and displaced, 700 Billion dollars, and the current ethnic cleansing that is taking place while we watch.

    No one is arguing Saddam was a bad man. But there are LOTS of bad men in the world.

    Too bad we have to number our own President among them.


  176. I WORFEUS Says:

    And Saddam wasn’t currently waging war on his own people you grade school dropout.

    He was too busy running for his life.

    If you had half a brain you’d remember that from 2002.

    But you don’t.

    Saddam was a dead man. Period. It was just a matter of time.

    But you jackasses. You cost the US thousands of our young men and womens lives, 700 billion dollars and counting, slaughtered and helped to be slaughtered half a million people or more, destroyed an ancient countries history and destroyed its infrastructure all to get one man.

    And worse, you cost us our international credibility and respect.

    We are most hated now.

    So listen up. You can debate the morals of your neocon facist bullshit till you’re blue in the face, but at the end of the day, its you’re utter incompetence that has done you in.

    Or did you think you still had a prayer of being taken seriously any time in the next decade or two?


  177. I WORFEUS Says:

    In the words of Forrest Gump, “stupid is as stupid does“.


  178. big Says:

    this war had to be fought on some front…..better the oil rich, educationaly and militarily advanced iraq then the resourceless afghanistan. changing iraq, due to is wealth and position in the region, can influence the entire middle east forever more. this is the chance to either wipe of extremision and bring democracy, or to feed extremisism by running away like cowards.

    was korea worth 55,000 soliders? was vietnam worth 58,0000? ww2 worth half a million? this nation should be willing to sacrafice as much as our grandparents did during ww2, seeing that islamic extremism is far more dangerous then hitler ever was. maybe killing half a million americans is ok as long as your a democrat….funny, vietnam wasnt a problem until it was passed from a democrat off on a republican….i hope bush passes this off to hillary…what goes around comes around


  179. big Says:

    our president is one of the strongest leaders we have ever had. his predecessor was the soft, poll crazed, ego maniac that gifted rapped 9/11 for osama. ignoring CIA suggestions to capture or kill bin laden, refusing to respond to the 93 bombing, black hawk down, 2 embassy attacks, kobar towers, uss cole……all the while doing nothing but fiddling interns while 17 al queda trained in flight schools right under his nose. clinton couldnt make a tough decision, not if it dared effect his polls. a real leader can make unpopular decisions without worrying about his legacy, doing what is right isnt always doing what is popular. american people want to just get out…but the american public are not military experts…why would you take military advice from a waitress in boise or an actor in hollyweird or a steel worker in pittsburgh….maybe the liberals should all patraeus to do his work and put a sock in it…they are watching a modern churchill command a modern eisenhower…and they need to stop it…because american deaths in iraq is electoral gold for the left.


  180. I WORFEUS Says:

    this war had to be fought on some front…..better the oil rich, educationaly and militarily advanced iraq then the resourceless afghanistan.

    Comment by big mess — April 2, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

    And there you have it folks.

    In the face of unrelenting logic, the neocon cannot help himself, and in his desire to see his actions as right and moral, he finally admits, albeit unwittingly, the real truth.

    The real reason why we went to Iraq.

    Straight from the horse’s ass.


  181. I WORFEUS Says:

    was vietnam worth 58,0000?

    Comment by big body-count — April 2, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

    No.

    What good did it accomplish?


  182. I WORFEUS Says:

    this nation should be willing to sacrafice as much as our grandparents did during ww2

    Comment by big blowhard — April 2, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

    We’d be willing to sacrifice you.


  183. Valiant Penus Says:

    iraq had killed 400,000 of its own people, 750,000 of its neighbors,

    really? is that why a puppet court just put the country’s leader to death for a mere 148 deaths? why werent the entirety of saddams crimes put on display for everyone to see?.. oh wait.. we helped him commit the majority of them… and wernt those 750,000 foreigners he allegedly killed IRANIANS? dont we dislike them? arent we talking about bombing them ourselves? didnt we help saddam bomb them? oh.. and how many Iraqis have been killed because of United States actions? should we use the same logic on ourselves that your using to demonize the former iraqi government?

    invaded two of hits neighbors

    hahahha. dude.. we HELPED and ENCOURAGED THEM to attack Iran… and you’re now using that as justification for our invasion? its like giving someone a gun, knowing what they are going to do with it, then condemning them when they do… HIPOCRITE

    launched missles at our ally israel so does lebanon..should we bomb them too? hezbollah was launching the missles and it was part of the lebanese government.. so they deserve some airstrikes from us too, right?

    and I’m sorry, I dont recall exactly what Israel does for us in return for us fighting thier wars for them….. can you remind me again?

    paid money to families of suicide bombers the saudis have frikking telethons for them, implicitly sanctioned by thier govern