More on WH ‘cooperation’ with GOP Syria trip.
By on Apr 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 pm
More on WH ‘cooperation’ with GOP Syria trip.
Greg Sargent notes, “It’s unclear what this GOP chief of staff’s description of ‘cooperation‘ between these members of Congress and the administration means in practice. It could end up amounting to nothing at all.” Reporter Christopher Allbritton offers one possibility:
I spoke with a source at a Western embassy in Beirut about this, and the source said the Republicans had been discouraged from going, just as Pelosi and her delegation had been. But, the source said, if a Congressional delegation is determined to go to Damascus, the U.S. embassy in Beirut would help them out.
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Even MORE GOPers kissing asses in Damascus.
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmWell , I just fell apart at a town meeting with doc Hastings , who when asked about habeas corpus rights told the audience that there was never any law passed that gives the executive the right to waive this constitutionally guaranteed right for an American citizen.
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmHe began to explain to the audience that Habeas corpus is a right unique to America .Has doc ever been to another country ? Does he believe people are arrested with out charges in most other countries other than the United States ?
A this point I spoke like an angry idiot and said that was untrue and apparently I knew more of whats going on in the American government than he does .
I asked what his thoughts were on Black water ,a mercenary army based in Virginia receiving billions of dollars in contracts and being represented by Kenneth Star and the presidents general counsel Fred Fielding ,or about the government spying on 100’s of 1000’s of its own citizens and perhaps he could also say a few words on the legal arguments for torture ?
Mr Hasting , our man on the senate ethics committee replied that we must respectfully disagree .I replied that I was amazed that there was not more outrage present and that the federal government seems to have broken down entirely , and that I couldn’t stand any more of the dog and pony show that was his town meeting and left !
Any one care to write doc hasting and clear up this little misunderstanding about habeas corpus and express a little outrage on my behalf ?
Yitshak Rabin said, “You only make peace with your enemy.” The antithesis of Chimpy’s “You are either with us or against us”. Anyone who really thinks that should stop watching Chuck Norris films – it means they are either moral imbeciles or fascists (or both in Chimpy’s case).
Where’s Captain Kirk with his “don’t talk to the enemy bit”? What a total prat – read his comments today. Hey even Kirk talked to Kang in the end…. what a poor choice for a web handle….I’m a turd and I’m in front of James T.
CNN is continuing the spin of the White House that Pelosi is alone in talking to Syria or is hijacking foreign policy – what librul media?
Even NPR perpetuated this “commander in chief” bullshit – he’s CIC of the armed forces, nothing more. Doesn’t the president serve at the people’s pleasure?
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 pmHe began to explain to the audience that Habeas corpus is a right unique to America
Well that’s the kind of crass ignorance and arrogance I’ve come to expect from America….who elected this fascist?
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 pmThat is……. X chairman of the house ethics committee and representative from washington state . Sorry for the mistake and the lack of articulateness of my outrage
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmOutrage is good, freeman – if these bastards don’t sort it out soon, it will be blood on the streets.
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 pmhttp://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/habeuscorpus.htm
This may help answer your question Freeman
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmQuite Interesting to Compare the Sharp Contrasts between these two statements
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:36 pm
MUST READ!
There is nothing good in this article, just further evidence that the greatest terrorist state in the world is the U.S.
U.S. agents visit Ethiopian secret jails
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 pmComment by TerrytheTurtle — April 3, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
Captain Jirk was more annoying than the average troll today.
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmThe law works on precedence ,I believe 2 American citizens were denied their rights under the constitution , and 100’s of 1000’s have had their rights violated through domestic spying and are totally unaware of it !( an issue which the decider lied straight faced to Jim Lehrer and the American public on national TV ).
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmHigh Crimes And misdemeanors !
But the Prez is on his vacation. He can’t be bothered with facts. Just one scary thought. Haven’t the worst things happened when Bushie has been clearin’ brush?
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmTHE white house and the G(houlish Grotesque) O(pportunistic Onanistic) P(everted Pedophile)party and the white house, TAKE IT AWAY:
“Things have come to a pretty pass
Our romance is growing flat,
For you like this and the other
While I go for this and that.
Goodness knows what the end will be;
Oh, I don’t know where I’m at…
It looks as if we two will never be one,
Something must be done.
You say eether and I say eyether,
You say neether and I say nyther;
Eether, eyether, neether, nyther,
Let’s call the whole thing off!
You like potato and I like potahto,
You like tomato and I like tomahto;
Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto!
Let’s call the whole thing off!
But oh! If we call the whole thing off,
Then we must part,
And oh! If we ever part,
Then that might break my heart!
So if you like pajamas and I like pajahmas,
I’ll wear pajamas and give up pajahmas.
For we know we need each other,
So we better call the calling off off.
Let’s call the whole thing off!
You say laughter and I say lawfter,
You say after and I say awfter;
Laughter, lawfter, after, awfter,
Let’s call the whole thing off!
You like vanilla and I like vanella,
You sa’s’parilla and I sa’s’parella;
Vanilla, vanella, Choc’late, strawb’ry!
Let’s call the whole thing off!
But oh! If we call the whole thing off,
Then we must part.
And oh! If we we ever part,
Then that might break my heart!
So, if you go for oysters and I go for ersters
I’ll order oysters and cancel the ersters.
For we know we need each other,
So we better call the calling off off!
Let’s call the whole thing off!
You say co-opteration and we say coo-peration,
You say DON’T GO, we say WE’LL GO!
Co-opteration, coo-peration, DON’T GO, WE’LL GO!
LET’S CALL THE WHOLE F*CKING THING OFF!!!!!”
(With Apologies to Fred Astaire For the Final Stanza!)
April 4th, 2007 at 12:05 amYes, BNF, but the Ethiopians are “our sons of bitches”. And ayone wonders why Americans are hated the world over…?
April 4th, 2007 at 12:07 amI was in Port townsend washington the other day and someone had written into the side walk before the cement dried , and I quote ,”IF YOU CAN READ THIS, YOU CAN WRITE YOUR CONGRESS PERSON .”
April 4th, 2007 at 12:12 amCatchy isn’t it ?
And writing your congress rep and your senator can do wonders…. sometimes it can even trump the ‘one dollar one vote’ system. I was in Alaska last week and saw a t-shirt which said “Where’s Cantwell?” I pointed out I thought there was a senator by that name and that this woman could sell a bunch of t-shirts there….Cantwell is a small town between Anchorage and Fairbanks…BTW
April 4th, 2007 at 12:18 amOh, men, you make me laugh and everybody is sleeping!!!
April 4th, 2007 at 12:21 amThere is nothing good in this article, just further evidence that the greatest terrorist state in the world is the U.S.
Comment by Briseadh_na_faire
Do you, folks, think these guys hold by the CIA and FBI in Ethiopia are spending their captive time like these guys? Look at the pics
April 4th, 2007 at 12:25 am#12 – dlet,
April 4th, 2007 at 12:26 amActually no. When 9/11 happened, he was in preschool and spent the next day or so in hiding. He did not ensure even his spouse’s safety, much less the Nations. His ass was the number one issue. Sort of reminds me of his Air National Guard Service – AWOL. Thankfully, he crawled on top of a pile of rubble that was effusing tons of toxic particles. My son was there and offered W a full particulate & gas mask – W refused. He may predecease his parents for that show of political stupidity.
I wonder if Ethiopia´s statistics qualify, for the US, as as a country that violates Human Rights:
Life expectancy at birth, total (years) 42.5
Mortality rate, infant (per 1,000 live births) 110.4
Lets see what about Military spending:
In Ethiopia, the military budget is 10 times the water and sanitation budget — in Pakistan, 47 times.
Ouch!! Both countries allies of US, but US is clearly unaware of this, otherwise, the champion of freedom and democracy would considerate this, right?
More.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:34 amMake yourselves comfortable the house is on fire .
April 4th, 2007 at 12:43 amI havent watched this.
In case you didnt. Beautiful speech the last minute by the elder in the panel.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:48 am#19
Comment by WaltTheMan
Yeah. You are correct. He was technically on the job during 9/11. Just hundreds of miles away from DC and 10 minutes late in reacting to anything. The worst thing is about the 9/11 story in NYC is that over 3000 people may die because people thought it was better to have workers responding to the incident and moving rubble brick by brick than think about the health effects like any lowest grade first responder should.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:52 am650 000 dead , millions of wounded and millions more refugeed ask when the country will finally demand an accounting from the neo cons who lied to the American people inorder to sell a war of aggression, against a country which had no part in 911 and represented no threat to the citizens of America .
April 4th, 2007 at 12:52 amWAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !
IMPEACH NOW !
off topic, BUT!, this is what happens when you set children FREE!, of Supervision!
April 4th, 2007 at 12:53 amFreeDUMB!
Freeman, question for you.
are YOU willing to DIE for your so called FREEDUMBS? I,m NOT!!
As a matter of FACT, FREEMAN,I HATE YOUR FREEDUMB!
what do you have to say now! A**&ole!
Authorities said the incident happened March 27 at the school, which houses students from kindergarten through 12th grade. A high school teacher normally watches the fifth-grade class at the time, but went to an assembly for older students and the class was inadvertently left unattended, Buckley said. (Watch authorities try to determine if a crime was committed Video)
April 4th, 2007 at 12:55 amhttp://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/106449997/index.html
April 4th, 2007 at 12:56 amwhat in the hell , why is the hell, do you think we are at war now?
April 4th, 2007 at 12:59 ami will tell you why,!
because of so called freedom!, dummies!
is no such animal as free.! yankees go home !
what do you have to say now! A**&ole!
Comment by What? Free? BuaHAHAHAHA!
Somebody needs a hug… or an imaginary friend.
April 4th, 2007 at 1:00 amI say the obvious , you have no courage and no idea what americans have fought to preserve in two world wars !
April 4th, 2007 at 1:00 amYour safety isn’t worth the deaths of 100’s of thousands of innocents , but your ignorance is priceless !
April 4th, 2007 at 1:04 amIF ANYONE HERE DARES TO QOUTE HISTORY OF WARS, THEN, I SUGGEST YOU GO DEEPER INTO HISTORY, BESIDES THE SO CALLED :
April 4th, 2007 at 1:33 amAND I QUOTE”two world wars !” BY FEERFREEFEIRIERMAN!
freeman, you are falling right into bushes regime.
# 34
April 4th, 2007 at 1:36 amHaving a little trouble adjusting to normal life in society ? Freedom of thought isn’t much appreciated in the marines , so I can see your a little rusty at it .
A president who lost the popular vote in an election decided in a state where his brother appointed the bean counters and in which the SUPREMES decided the outcome anyways along party lines ! Who won a second election by .6 % of the popular vote tallied on electronic voting machines supplied by a major contributer to the bush political machine ,with no paper trail ( damn those hanging chads ).
An administration whose members ,oil and energy company executives ,wrote pre 911( PNAC ) that the US must invade the middle east inorder to control China and the developing world through control of oil , but that , and I quote ,” barring a national catastrophy it will be hard to galvanize the american public behind such a scheme !
A country which polls indicate !/3 believe the US government was directly involved in 911( Remember the Maine ?)
The worlds most important resource is oil and the mid east probably the most valuble region in terms of that resource is looking a lot like a disaster , as a result of the neo cons failed plans .This makes you feel safer ?
freeman — this should have read something like this”
April 4th, 2007 at 1:51 am# 34
Having a little trouble adjusting to normal life in society ? Freedom of thought isn’t much appreciated in the marines , so I can see your POINT at it .
you are SMART, but, where is your WISDOM?
Try Jesus,” he who lives by the sword dies by the sword or Lao Tzu who said, ” what I teach others also teach that is .a violent man will die a violent death , This will be the essence of my teaching .”
April 4th, 2007 at 1:57 amOr if you don’t fancy religious wisdom how about thomas jefferson or the US constitution !
Bush sent the GOP ahead of Pelosi to tell the Syrian President not to talk about White House cooperation in torture and other secret deals. Now with Bush’s reaction it didn’t work. The Syrian President will most likely tell Pelosi all the things Bush doesn’t want her to know. It’s all about the money Bush is spreading around. Waxman is there to find out about Cheney’s illegal deals. Now Bush has go to find a way of saying the President is lying but we know he isn’t.
April 4th, 2007 at 2:04 amAsk my mother in law about wisdom , she grew up during the 2nd world war ,in germany , when Hitler was battling the Jews for survival and cities like colonge were bombed 85% to the ground.
April 4th, 2007 at 2:06 amDeutschland uber alles !
and the democrats are doing a wonderful impersonation of the Weimar republic !
April 4th, 2007 at 2:14 amlike i said, go NOT quote history UNLESS you are willing to quote from the beginning of history.
April 4th, 2007 at 2:15 amww1 and ww2 are not the beginning of wars. Germany (Deutschland)was not the beginning of history. Neither was america, britain,france,russia,middle east, etc…where was the first ever war that took place? do you KNOW that? hint: it happened before Jesus, Moses, Abraham, etc….
get back with me when you find the answer. zzzzzzzzz
More on WH ‘cooperation’ with GOP Syria trip
Well no, not really.
You’re basically reporting that regardless of destination, members of congress on diplomatic trips overseas will be assisted by embassies.
What a shocker.
That would be “more” in the same way that everything past page 2 of How Embassies Work For Dummies is “more” info and “news”.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:32 amThe article says the Republican delegation “had been discouraged from going” to Syria. So the Republicans defied their own Administration to go. Interesting.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:14 amThe hypocrisy of the GOP knows no bounds
April 4th, 2007 at 8:08 amWell the lines have blurred. Now they just make up whatever fits the need. I bet for periods of time Laura has even thought of herself as first lady.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:12 amBush lied again – yesterday – to the american people – more bold faced lies right in our faces!! He said his “surge” was supported by his Joint Chiefs of Staff – This has been proven to be the diametric opposite. He also said that his “surge” was supported by the Iraqi Commanders – wrong again! The Iraqis have stated the direct opposite.
It’s becoming obvious to all that George W. Bush is living in a deluded, pathological version of reality. He’s a pathological liar and has surrounded himself with liars and “yes men”, fall guys who have been brainwashed and are marching in lock step with this dictator.
The people need to rise up again and put this chimp in his place. He is NOT an Emperor or a King; in fact, it could be said that he is not even a “sane” human being.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:49 amIt’s become quite sad to see that his handlers allow him to make a liar and a fool out of himself before the american public any longer.
His infamous sneering is back, his stuttering has reached an all-time high, his phraseology is pathetic…..stammering….uh….uh….uh….and then when it’s clear that his brain is empty of a clue as to what to say, he puts that ugly sneer on his face as if the people don’t know what’s going on upstairs. It’s an embarrassment to have this “village heir idiot” representing this country. He’s beginning to look more like a criminal and a thug with each passing appearance he makes.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:51 amI find this level of “overt hypocrisy” laughable; do they really believe that Bush will get some mileage out of criticizing Pelosi for visiting Syria when it’s known that some of his GOP mobsters have already done so; in fact, some Rethugs are accompanying Pelosi. Village idiots, all of them, who believe that the american people cannot see them for what they truly are….liars & hypocrites.
What I see as really occurring here is this: The Chimp and Howdy-Doody Ricey-Poo are very worried that diplomacy may, in fact, work. After all, what war profiteer would want peace?? What war profiteer would want diplomacy? What war profiteer would want anything BUT escalation? What war profiteer would not try to bully his way into snubbing his enemies precisely so he can stack the deck for another war?? We’ve got a Master Bully in the White House and he needs to be removed…
IMPEACH NOW!
April 4th, 2007 at 8:55 amWhat war profiteer would prefer dialogue and diplomacy over cold, hard cash from the humonguous ‘war machine’???? Just ask yourselves where our money has gone? Into whose slippery hands did that 9 Billion disappear and is still AWOL?? Into whose slippery fingers and offshore bank accounts is the taxpayer’s money going which, ostensibly, was for this war? Perhaps the money slipped into obscurity instead of buying body armor for our soldiiers? Perhaps the money slid away into some cronie’s slush fund instead of equipping our humvees? Perhaps the money was simply ’stolen’ by the powers that be “because they could” and believe that they will get away with it.
Let’s talk money with these thugs now. The american taxpayers have a right to know where the missing money is! And now!
April 4th, 2007 at 8:59 amI hope Pelosi gets an ear full of what we’re up to….and no doubt she will which is precisely why Bush is criticizing and smearing her for attempting dialogue. He KNOWS what dialogue will produce: the facts about our torture program and then we’ll have another scandal next week: TORTURE-GATE!
April 4th, 2007 at 9:00 amMaybe next week’s scandal will be “CheneyGate” when the people find out about the Dick, Cheney’s “secret deals” ??? Where’s the beef, Dubya? The people want to know where our money has gone!
April 4th, 2007 at 9:02 amMaybe Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Syria will prove beneficial after all. Who knows, she may even be able to mediate a resolution to the Iranian hostage crisis.
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April 5th, 2007 at 10:37 pm