Comment by Tundra — April 3, 2007 @ 1:23 pm

This also defines the Kansas City serial killer that finally got busted not too long ago. Upstanding citizen, active in his church. Jeez..perfect look at a sociopath. NORMAL people cannot kill other people and continue to be NORMAL.

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Comment by ghost — April 3, 2007 @ 11:13 am

Yes.

This is a sin in the fullest meaning of that term. And that’s what we, the American people, allowed to happen. It’s time to stop this travesty. Tell your Senators and Representatives…cut off the funding RIGHT NOW!!! Bring our troops home. We can’t stop this nightmare we started. Iraq’s neighbors in the region have a better shot at bringing about some end to the bloodshed…even Iran. The innocent children of Iraq have suffered enough! END THIS NOW!!!

Again, might want to check the regs. Unless they’ve changed drastically since my retirement (1994), we were taught, rather emphatically, not to even acknowledge we’d been in said briefings! If the regs have changed, then I apologize, but check them! I don’t care if the info to which you were referring is widely available, posting that you were in briefings (with the implication that no such thing as an Iran invasion was talked about) isn’t a great idea. If you worked for me I have you on the carpet so fast……

Lastly, I hope you are right. My time covered Nam to Desert Storm, Dubya broke our military, we’re not even ready for anything that big.

Does Gingrich know about this???

I have not given any information that is not available via NIPRNET or public (.mil)

Comment by west virginia hillbilly — April 3, 2007 @ 9:52 am

No, because I have not leaked any info. Now if something was planned and I confirmed it, then I would be leaking.

Comment by hacker bob — April 3, 2007 @ 10:00 am

Now I’m calling you out. I’m retired military (retire in ‘94 after 22 years). The last 6 years I carried an TS/SCI. You might want to refresh yourself on OPSEC/COMSEC regs. If you carry an SCI you can NOT even HINT at any info you have. Hell even unclassifed info like training schedules will be protected at ALL times. THis is especially true if you have an SCI…held to much higher standards.

“I work on a Generals staff in a tactical planning and support group. I attend 2 security briefs a day about in theater operations. So, I do not rely on a conspiracy website to get my intel.” Your are violating the regs simply by acknowleging you attend the briefings, let alone IMPLYING that no such thing is discussed. So either you’re lying, or you better “check your six”.

And did you happen to miss this caveat?

The findings in this report are subject to at least three limitations (3). First, because the NTOF surveillance system is based only on data from death certificates, occupational injury deaths are undercounted; on average, death certificate-based surveillance systems capture approximately 81% of occupational injury deaths (7). Second, previous studies have demonstrated 60%- 76% agreement between industry and occupation information listed on death certificates and actual employment status at the time of death (3), which could be a source of misclassification. Third, death certificates provide only limited data about the circumstances of traumatic fatalities.

It doesn’t deal with the percentages of postal workers who were former vets. Do you have anything else?

I have never seen a DD-214 with that either. The only thing I can think of would be if it was someone in the STA community.

Here is one that covers 1980 through 1989 (When the high profile ones were listed)

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/00032345.htm

Another sad case of someone living in Bass-Ackwards land…

A nice high percentage of vets are there though.

Even I wouldn’t go that far, as it presupposes that all will be exposed to the same horrors; but some will be rear echelon (like Kuwait) and not be shown the daily tragedies (and victories) of war. But for combat troops, its a different story.

I regularly go through the DD-214’s at the Legion post, many people there have confirmed kills listed. The guy with the most is one of the nicest most giving people I have ever met in my life. Lives each day to it’s fullest and helps whenever he can.

Everyone handles things differently, one of the problems with the current system is they are trying to have everyone follow the same steps for psychological evaluation. The military has a steps and processes for everything, but combat related stress is handled differently in each person. Evaluation cannot be done in a fast food ask this question, record that answer, have 5 counceling sessions type manner.

I’d like a link to the study, please. And this was going on for decades, so if things have changed, it’s because they’ve put programs in place to deal with the situation, which would account for your stats, if they are more recent (last decade).

I was simply displaying the other side of the coin.

Comment by Tundra

Even I wouldn’t go that far, as it presupposes that all will be exposed to the same horrors; but some will be rear echelon (like Kuwait) and not be shown the daily tragedies (and victories) of war. But for combat troops, its a different story. Each soldier has an individual tipping-point, and when reached, there is no going back. I’ve never been in war, but I have been in jobs which required me to take life, and I’ve never been able to desensitize myself to it. Or to say that it hadn’t changed me.

Comment by barfly — April 3, 2007 @ 12:59 pm

Researchers have found that the homicide rates per 100,000 workers at postal facilities were lower than at other workplaces. In major industries, the highest rate of 2.1 homicides per 100,000 workers was in retail. The next highest rate of 1.66 was in public administration, which includes police officers. The homicide rate for postal workers was 0.26 per 100,000. The most dangerous occupation: taxi driving, with a homicide rate of 31.54 per 100,000 workers.