BREAKING: Bush names Swift Boat funder as ambassador.
BREAKING: Bush names Swift Boat funder as ambassador.
AP reports:
“President Bush named Republican fundraiser Sam Fox as U.S. ambassador to Belgium on Wednesday, using a maneuver that allowed him to bypass Congress where Democrats had derailed Fox’s nomination. …
Recognizing Fox did not have the votes to obtain Senate confirmation, Bush withdrew the nomination last month. On Wednesday, with Congress out of town for a spring break, the president used his power to make recess appointments to put Fox in the job without Senate confirmation.
This means Fox can remain ambassador until the end of the next session of Congress, effectively through the end of the Bush presidency.”
UPDATE: The White House originally said that it had pulled Fox because “his nomination would not have passed” the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Fox donated $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
UPDATE II: Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) responds: “I seriously question the legality of the President’s use of the recess appointment authority in this instance. I intend to seek an opinion on the legality of this appointment from the General Accountability Office and invite other Senators to join with me in that request. This is underhanded and an abuse of Executive authority — sadly this behavior has become the hallmark of this administration.”
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As if we couldn’t tell that he doesn’t care for oversight…
April 4th, 2007 at 4:53 pmwow, I’m just shocked. shocked I tell you!
April 4th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWhat a dick.
April 4th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWHAT A DICKHE@d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 4th, 2007 at 4:54 pmWasn’t this nominate pulled?
So, Bush recess appointed another stooge.
Yeah, like America isn’t going to notice this one.
April 4th, 2007 at 4:54 pmITMFA
April 4th, 2007 at 4:54 pmSneaky B@stard!!!@#1
April 4th, 2007 at 4:55 pmhe did this with Bolton as well, correct?
always taking the sneeky underhanded route huh Dub?
bastard
April 4th, 2007 at 4:55 pmShocking…
April 4th, 2007 at 4:56 pmwow – the clap smacks em down again…
April 4th, 2007 at 4:56 pmSo he lied again. I can’t help but wonder if this move is a diversion from all the other clusterf#ck situations around this administration.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:01 pmAmen, johnnyr!
Impeach the MF already.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:04 pmI wanna be the ambassador to the Bahamas.. How much will it take?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:05 pmCongress should pull funding for the Belgium embassy then…
…I’m sure they’ll understand…
April 4th, 2007 at 5:05 pmCronies, anyone? Anyone at all?
ITMFAs now!!!
April 4th, 2007 at 5:06 pmOnce again, President Bush scores one for the bad guys.
Conservatives – 527, John Kerry – 0
April 4th, 2007 at 5:06 pmI’m hardly surprised, but behavior like this leaves little argument against the fact that Shrub is an unbelievable bastard with no regard for the laws he swore an oath to uphold.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:06 pmI don’t think he’ll be to well liked in Belgium either..
April 4th, 2007 at 5:06 pmQuestion – If your report re Fox appointment is correct, what alternatives are available to the congress?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:08 pmbilljpa@aol.com
The World watches as Bush continues to lie and use tricks to get what he wants. No wonder all the Bush appointees are causing so many problems all are not qualified for the job it’s all friend ship and pay offs. Bush/Cheney are trying to do as much damage as they can before it’s over.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:10 pmMost of the GOP are helping them get away with it. But as the election needs and the same corrupt GOP have to ask their voters to re elected them let’s see how they spin their cooperation with the Bush crime team.
Tell voters that Bill Clinton let thousands of troops die based on lies. The World is watching to see if Americans will take back the United States of America or give it to Mitt so he can continue the crime wave.
Good.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:10 pmSo Bush appoints an ambassadors while on vacation in Crawford? Well then, maybe the Senate should be able to vote on the appointment while on vacation too. Why not? With the internets and all of its various tubes it could make it possible.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:10 pmOne more thing…this is par for the neocon course. Were Shrub and his cronies to actually play by the rules and conduct their business in daylight, the public would have long ago called for their heads on pikes (speaking metaphorically, of course). Conservatives today cannot engage in a dialogue on ideas—they have none—and thus they default to ad hominem attacks, fabrications, and delusional demagoguery. Likewise, conservatives cannot engage the political system according to the rule of law—their goals would never be fulfilled—and so they either subvert or ignore it.
Let the light shine on every act of this kind, and may the Republican/conservative movement personified by George W. Bush be rendered to the political ashbin for generations to come!
April 4th, 2007 at 5:11 pm#6, #12, #15 HEAR! HEAR! (but impeach cheney first!)
April 4th, 2007 at 5:12 pmSo? Big deal, Clinton named Swift Boat funders as ambassadors too.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:13 pmThis is behavior typical of a petulant child. It’s fun to watch as the number of ways that he can act out or throw a tantrum continues to diminish. As defiant gestures go, it’s kind of weak.
Go ahead, Georgie. Pitch a fit. It’s just a matter of time before you get nailed.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:13 pmI may have missed something but what does ITMFA stand for?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmIf Fox had any decency, he would decline this appointment…but he won’t decline so therefore…he has no decency… and neither does the President.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmI guess ol “King” George showed them. Is this the spirit of Bi-Partisanship the GOP refers to?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmI urge the Belgians, French and Flemish alike, to serve the new ambassador respectfully, on a roll with French dip.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmardee @ 13 —
You probably don’t have that much… adn you’d have to become a loyal Bushie.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:16 pm#27 hil – impeach the motherfu*ker already!
April 4th, 2007 at 5:16 pm#27 hil
I may have missed something but what does ITMFA stand for?
I’m guessing that the first two letters stand for “Impeach The”.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:17 pmhil @ 27 — “Impeach the MF Already” I trust you are smart enough to figure out the MF part…
April 4th, 2007 at 5:17 pmAnother recess appointment from hell.
Thanks, George. Blame Barbara. She never told him no, no matter how many tantrums, wrecked cars or girlfriends he left in his wake.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:17 pmWhoa, Deja-Vous.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:18 pmAnguish on Wall Street as European stock markets push US off pole position
Mr Chaudhry summed up the bigger picture. “The world is changing. The US has been the dominant power, but we are going through an empire change.”
Totting up the value of all the companies on the 24 stock markets of Europe, from west to east and taking in Russia and Turkey, you get $15.73 trillion. That’s a nudge ahead of the total of US-listed companies, and you probably can’t have said that since the end of the First World War.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:20 pmHOW DARE HE?! HOW DARE GEORGE W. BUSH ACT AS A POLITICIAN?!
thinkprogress.org, you may be unto something, a politician acting as a politicians….
tune in next time to thinkprogress.org, they have all the news, well left wing biased “news”, on right wing politicians acting as right wing politicians…..how dare they, HOW DARE THEY?!
you democrat partisan hacks are funny….
April 4th, 2007 at 5:20 pmPrior to this blind side, wasn’t the WH’s official stance that Fox’s name was withdrawn?
How will Hannity, Rush and the like defend this.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pmsorry, i don’t know what got into me. oh yeah,
April 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pm#1 lying to congress (about WMD)
#2 violating the 4th amendment (domestic spying via phone taps)
#3 see #2 (this time via the postal service
#4 outing a cia agent in a time of war
#5 abrogating international treaties (geneva convention/abu ghraib)sp??
#6 signing statements
#7 politicizing u.s. justice system
oh and patrick1, are you just getting lazy? at least jake threw out the tired ‘clinton did it’ canard. not much better but at least something…
#27 – In addition to what #34 said, another way I have seen ITMFA is “Impeach the Mother F***ing A**holes!”
April 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pmIt is time for the Senate Democrats to pull their collective heads out of their asses and sue this Dictator. While they are at it impeach FOX and remove him (unfund him too and all such appointments by any President).
File charges in Court and only and forever stop this type of acts by any President.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:24 pmextreme left wing wacko talking….
“Impeach Bush…blah, blah, blah, blah….Bush is evil, blah, blah, blah, blah….embrace our terroist friends, they aren’t terrorist, they are just misunderstood individuals, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah….Christians are evil, religion is evil, well of course except Islam practiced to the extreme…blah, blah, blah, blah….blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..blah, blah, blah, Bush is evil, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah….blah, blah, blah…..”
excellent imitation of a left wing ideologue…..
April 4th, 2007 at 5:24 pmCongrats….not one word wasted on the trolls this post. Keep it up.
GW sure is fond of that middle finger of his isn’t he. And now more than ever, as he is slowly backed into a corner. :)
April 4th, 2007 at 5:24 pmNice strong (and quick) statement from Dodd. Hope it goes somewhere.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:24 pmRe: Trolls. Remember, what you don’t feed starves
April 4th, 2007 at 5:25 pm#37 Can’t we all just get along Kirksy?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:25 pm#43 Sorry s.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:26 pmComment by Captain Kirk — April 4, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Bush doesn’t act like a politician. he acts like a king. And you act like a loyal serf
April 4th, 2007 at 5:27 pmCongrats….not one word wasted on the trolls this post. Keep it up.
sorry, I didn’t see your comment until I had responded to Capt Jerk
April 4th, 2007 at 5:29 pmI understand that you can only do a recess appointment if the Senate is in recess for at least ten days and that at one point, Harry Reid was going to schedule recesses so that bush could not do any appointments. Is this ten rule cxorrect and if so, then lets not give bush any more opportunities to do any more recess appointments.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:33 pmBush Bypasses Congress, Again…
This time to name Swift Boat funder, Sam Fox US Ambassador to Belgium:…
April 4th, 2007 at 5:33 pm[...] ThinkProgress. Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) responds: “I seriously question the legality of the President’s use of [...]
April 4th, 2007 at 5:34 pmIt appears to me that, while nobody really expected Bush to act differently, I have to wonder if he, or rather the neo-cons, think for some reason that their actions no longer have any personal consequences. I mean, how many times does he have to kick dirt in Congress’s face before they finally agree that its time to impeach? I think Bush either knows that Congress will never seriously challenge his authority, or that events are in motion which will make the neocons untouchable.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:36 pmexcellent imitation of a left wing ideologue…..
Comment by Captain Kirk — April 4, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
Doesn’t say much about someone who would bash an ideology predicated upon the hope for peace, love and understanding, now does it?
Captain Hook is just off his meds again.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:37 pmI think the term for Bush is “Asswipe.” Could he be much more of a spoiled rotten brat?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pmWow – this is unprecedented, even for them. How long are Americans going to tolerate this?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:39 pmLet me get this correct — Fox was part of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth who slimed John Kerry’s service while supporting President AWOL’s service — and this was the group that the WH had no connection with when all the slime about Kerry came out and the WH said we respect Kerry’s service, but never disavowed or criticized the Swift Boaters. Well, now we know why. I don’t know what makes me madder about this administration — that it operates on an extremely unseemly, if not illegal, way or that it continuously insults my intelligence by telling the most outrageous lies or assumes that I cannot remember things from year or even days ago that always, but always contradicts its current or previous positions.
It’s too bad there is not an impeachment clause for being irretrievably stupid and presumptuous — if there were, the whole gang would be out. I say line them up and send them to the Hague anyway — war criminals that they are.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:40 pmI think the good people of Belgium should be reminded periodically, through whichever blogs they read, just exactly what caliber of indivuidual has been fobbed off on them . . .
April 4th, 2007 at 5:41 pmRe: Trolls. Remember, what you don’t feed starves
Comment by s — April 4, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Or turns into a Vampire and sucks your blood…
I’m torn on this. Some trolls – yeah, I agree do starve when ignored (MA is the perfect example. Watch what happens when he posts and we ignore him… ).
Others, however, will keep posting their trash and claim that we couldn’t refute them… Which, I feel, doesn’t do well for those who read comments – because it makes us look like we cannot debunk them. Especially people like Jason Hendler who know a few ‘big words’ which could fool some people.
Sorry.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pmhmmmm….I asked today what I asked yesterday, is there one, just one intelligent, coherent, honest liberal amongst you?
how many recess appointments have past President done?
tick, tock, tick, tock…
you silly partisan ideologues, if the Constitution didn’t allow these recess appointments then yes Bush would be acting out of his power, but guess what, you looney tunes, the Constitution gives him the power to do this….
any ways, i don’t worry, conservatives are having more babies and much bigger families than the wacked out extreme leftists. You guys will destroy yourself.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pmI have to wonder if he, or rather the neo-cons, think for some reason that their actions no longer have any personal consequences.
Comment by gogreen — April 4, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Yes. The fact that six years of such actions have resulted in ZERO consequences to him only verifies that he can do and get away with anything – because, thus far, he has.
Drafting Articles of Impeachment might show him down for a while… There’s just so much damage he can do in a week, much less 21 months…
April 4th, 2007 at 5:44 pmYou wonder if the Admin is losing their minds. On one hand they’re claim that Griffin’s appointment as Interim USAG wasn’t an attempt to exploit the Patriot Act exemption to backdoor him in (despite ample documentation that it was). Then they turn around and do this obvious backdoor with Fox.
Why would any Dem in Congress want to do business with the Admin at this point? Just pass laws and let the President veto them. If it shuts down the government, fuck it. On one hand you’ll have Congress being able to point what they passed. On the other hand, you’ll have Presidential vetos and a slew of backdoor things like thing. Only the wingnuts won’t grasp the obvious.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:46 pmThis excerpt from a CRS document, taken from this Kos link, says that while recess appointments after 3 days may invoke a political price, they’re legal:
How Long Must the Senate Be in Recess Before a President
May Make a Recess Appointment?
The Constitution does not specify the length of time that the Senate must be in recess before the President may make a recess appointment. Over the last century, as shorter recesses have become more commonplace, Attorneys General and the Office of Legal Counsel have offered differing views on this issue. Most recently, in 1993, a Department of Justice brief implied that the President may make a recess appointment during a recess of more than three days. Appointments made during short recesses (less than 30 days), however, have sometimes aroused controversy, and they may involve a political cost for the President. Controversy has been particularly acute in instances where Senators perceive that the President is using the recess appointment process to circumvent the confirmation process for a nominee who is opposed in the Senate.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:47 pmahhh….you babies are still crying about John Kerry’s lies of what he did when he was in Vietnam? oh you poor children, your poor tools of the left….
it has to hurt so much that Bush plays better politics than the whole freaking Democrat party……hahahahahahahahhahaha!!!
oh man, I am laughing so freaking hard at the level of stupidity from the extreme left…
where are your super, duper, intelligent Democrats kids?
I mean these Democrats are so smart, especially hillary, edward, kerry….that they were fooled by what the left calls a chimp….so wait….if you believe what you call a lie from a supposed chim, what does that make you?
if you believe what you call a lie from someone you believe is an idiot, what does that make you? i bigger idiot, a bigger chimp, right?
so for Bush being a supposed chimp and an idiot, the left wingers that voted for the war in Iraq are bigger chimps and idiots, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
so easy to destroy the arguments of partisan hacks, regardless of party.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:47 pmany ways, i don’t worry, conservatives are having more babies and much bigger families than the wacked out extreme leftists. You guys will destroy yourself.
Comment by Captain Kirk — April 4, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
So have you finally just given up on pretending to be an Independent? Because after that remark, it’s over.
So, what this means is that you’re a bold faced liar.
If you’ll lie about who you are, why wouldn’t you lie about pretty much any and everything else? Hmmm? You wouldn’t. So – cosnideringyou’re a liar – you have zero credibility and aren’t worth our time.
Be gone.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:48 pmNOTHING is a surprise… Why isn’t he out there praising the Iranians for releasing the British captives?
Did this spoil your plans you stupid F?????? Or what do you have planned?
Why is it we have to constantly walk around on egg shells wondering just WTF this moron might do?????
April 4th, 2007 at 5:48 pmtrolls are hater baters. They do feed off of responses but that doesn’t mean they win. Sometimes it’s the responses that give others another perspective on the thread or topic.
It’s also an example of free speech. Go to RedState and speak your mind. You’ll be kicked off. Someone was just kicked off today for pointing out there were republicans also going to Syria. Big no no there. But not here.
The trolls aren’t going to sway anybody’s opinion and just might allow someone to find their own voice against them.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:49 pm[...] Read more Update [...]
April 4th, 2007 at 5:49 pmI’m torn on this. Some trolls – yeah, I agree do starve when ignored (MA is the perfect example. Watch what happens when he posts and we ignore him… ).
Others, however, will keep posting their trash and claim that we couldn’t refute them…
Comment by unbelievable
I’d say engaging is better than disengaging. It is consistent with the progressive approach to dealing with your enemies, no?
Create dialogue, negotiate, conduct dimplomacy — that is how you would rather see us deal with our enemies in the middle east. Why not do the same with your adversaries here?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:50 pmunbelieve…
are you this stupid, or do you just play one. Being a conservative doesn’t make me a Republican, does I am still an Independent, plus I have said many times here that I agree more with conservative believes than I do with liberal believes, but in no shape or form does this make me a partisan hack…..
partisan comes from the word party, meaning Republican Party and Democratic Party.
there are Republicans that are liberal as well as Democrats that are conservatives and the oppossite is true. There are INdependents that are liberals as well as Independents that are conservatives.
you are too blinded by your Democrat ideology to see beyond parties.
Conservative doesn’t equal Republican
Liberal doesn’t equal Democrat.
get it? probably not…..
April 4th, 2007 at 5:53 pmunbelieve…
there are extreme left wingers, which are most of the people that post here, in huffandpuff, dailycoocoos,
and there are extreme right wingers who follow Ann Coulter and believe everything she says and excuse her filth and hate…….
take off the partisan glasses and try to think beyond party lines kid.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:54 pmThe trolls aren’t going to sway anybody’s opinion and just might allow someone to find their own voice against them.
Comment by hellinabucket — April 4, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
I don’t know. A lot of people believe a lot of other nonsense… I’d rather not take the risk in some cases.
At the very least we should do what the Evolution Experts like the late Stephen Jay Gould and Richard Dawkins almost did – they agreed to write a joint letter to the NY Review stating that they would not engage the ID folks because that meant elevating their argument to a position of equality and validity. That instead, they were explaining that they wouldn’t debate ID anymore than they would Santa Claus. Unfortunately Gould died before they could complete the letter…. So, we could inform certain trolls that we won’t debate them unless they offer something worthy of debate, therefore demonstrating that it’s not about our inability to debate the issues – but their own inability to hold a credible position worthy of consideration on the matter.
Just a thought…
April 4th, 2007 at 5:59 pm#62 Yup, this is the one who bemoaned the nasty tone in politics and on TP and condemned stereotyping. I guess we were successful in pulling him in because he is the nastiest. As for stereotyping, the guy is a pro.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:59 pmunbelieve…
i think your mommy dropped you too many times on your head…actually most extreme wing partisans, whether from the left or right were dropped too many times on their hate.
Ann Coulter was dropped too many times, just like Bill Maher…..
what happens is that extremists are dropped too many times either on the right side of their head or left side….and that is how you become a blind partisan hack full of hate for the other side.
anyway kid, as I said, extreme left wing fools don’t have families and if they do are one or two kids, conservative families have at least 20% more children than wacked out left wing families. AND 80% of children keep the believes of their parents…..hmmmm….sounds like extreme left wingers are destroying themselves.
now unbelieve will retort with some incoherent, stupid, mindless, robotic, pathetic, predictable, full of hate and venom, full of lies, brainless post….
April 4th, 2007 at 6:00 pm#67 You can tell just how wingnutty one is when he compares Daily Kos to Ann Coulter as if they were even in the same league. Give it up Kirk, you are a neo-con. Independent like O’Reilly maybe.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:00 pm#70 now unbelieve will retort with some incoherent, stupid, mindless, robotic, pathetic, predictable, full of hate and venom, full of lies, brainless post….
You really don’t get the irony in your words, do you?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:01 pmAnd only a day after chastising Congress for leaving to go on vacation… he must be trying to punish us…..
April 4th, 2007 at 6:02 pmIs he still in town, or did he make this announcement from AF1?
JPark,
well it is fun to get nasty with extreme right wingers and left wingers…..
YOU ALL ACT THE SAME WAY!
yes, there is a nasty tone in politics, but sh….t read what you guys post, it doesn’t get nastier than here kiddos…well not true, the Ann Coulter blog gets as nasty…..
extremists are all the same, regardless of party…..
April 4th, 2007 at 6:03 pmI’d say engaging is better than disengaging. It is consistent with the progressive approach to dealing with your enemies, no?
I think it depends on the caliber of the argument. To some degree, some people are justhere to be obnoxious and disrupt the threads. I would agree that engaging them meets their goal.
However, there was a thread about Pelosi’s head scarf today that stayed pretty much on topic for over 400 posts due to the fact that the discussions was mostly about the issues.
Create dialogue, negotiate, conduct dimplomacy — that is how you would rather see us deal with our enemies in the middle east. Why not do the same with your adversaries here?
Comment by Cynicon Implant — April 4, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
You have to admit that Captian Kirk is not interested in anything but getting attention and being disruptive. No amount of diplomacy will matter to him. I think it’s about knowing when to engage and when not to. Wouldn’t you agree that it’s not as simple as a “do or don’t” matter, but much more complex depending upon the “enemy”?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:04 pmWHY???
anyone know WHY dubya wanted this fox for ambassador,
so badly that he had to go to this extreme?
why???
April 4th, 2007 at 6:04 pmYup, this is the one who bemoaned the nasty tone in politics and on TP and condemned stereotyping. I guess we were successful in pulling him in because he is the nastiest. As for stereotyping, the guy is a pro.
Comment by JPark — April 4, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
LOL… He really is the best argument against himself their is : )
April 4th, 2007 at 6:06 pm#74 well it is fun to get nasty with extreme right wingers and left wingers…..
When are you going to go off on a troll and prove your words? As it is, you have no credibility as an independent. I have seen nothing but attacking liberals and when called on it you say, oh, no, I am all about equal opportunity. I haven’t seen the other side of you.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:09 pm#76 Same as every other position. He is a loyal crony. That is as deep as Bush goes. It was the same with Bolton. He was so unqualified for UN embassador but he was loyal.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:11 pmITMFA!!!! XD
haha Im in the loop now!
oh and #76, Katy its not that extreme (for these freaks at least) How do you think Bolton got to the UN
April 4th, 2007 at 6:11 pmunbelieve,
I tried dialogue with you guys, and one person, Zep Tepi was respectful and we had a very nice exchange of ideas and a good debate.
the rest of you, the second you read one word that disagrees with you scream and cry, and spew venom and hate.
you have been an idiot and a typical extreme left wing wacko since i posted the first time here…
you even cried like an idiot about making things personal not realizing, like a good nut job, that your post crying about making things personal was attacking me personal…
typical sign of an extremist, crying that someone is doing to them what they love to do to others….unbelieve, you fit well with the extreme wackos.
just admit it kid, it will take you a step closer to actually being a sane woman….
April 4th, 2007 at 6:11 pmThis is really George Bush’s method of slapping Congress in the face. I wonder what congress will do when they come back? Decide that the whole justice department must testify under oath? Investigate the Texas Youth Commission. Finally hold hearings on the pre and post Iraqi invasion actions of the Intelligence department.
Maybe congress can take the gloves off and investigate Haliburton. All quite legal and appropriate.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:12 pmhellinabucket
April 4th, 2007 at 6:12 pm64
No matter how they try to word smith the evil and wrong doings of their party it never comes clean in the wash. They are desperately trying to protect their wealth from fair taxation, current health care from changing to a system where ALL can have access and continuation of corporate America as we see it today. And when they do talk politics with their own, have you noticed the conversation is around “which democrat they are going to vote for in the primaries” as we know they switch to vote in the least likely. It is all smear and games for them.
hey kirk – pretty smug for a guy with the middle name ‘tiberius’…
April 4th, 2007 at 6:13 pm#68 and a good thought at that. I generally ignore them unless the mood hits me. I agree their rhetoric is out there and people who don’t question will accept what they say. But I doubt any of these pissants have changed anybody’s mind on this website.
Take Kirkoff for example. He reminds me of an old Andrew Dice Clay character.
An opinion should be the ideas as a result of thought, not the substitute for thought.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:15 pmCaptain Kirk –
You get what you give. Don’t be surprised that no one takes you seriously or credibly here. You haven’t given us any reason.
From now on, I will scroll past your insane rants. I repeat – you aren’t worth the time because you are only interested in attacks, smears and beating your chest. Go elsewhere.
Have a nice life.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:16 pmIf no one marches on Washington or your own State Capitol the media will back everything this criminal does. And the rest of you will have to swallow it. PERIOD!
April 4th, 2007 at 6:17 pmWouldn’t you agree that it’s not as simple as a “do or don’t†matter, but much more complex depending upon the “enemy�
Comment by unbelievable
I totally agree.
This line of reasoning is why the Bush admin. is dealing with the enemy in the fashion they are — the enemy will not engage rationally, so dialogue is futile.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:18 pm[...] Today, Bush exercised his Executive powers to bypass Congress and give a recess appointment to Sam Fox. [...]
April 4th, 2007 at 6:19 pm#81 typical sign of an extremist, crying that someone is doing to them what they love to do to others….unbelieve, you fit well with the extreme wackos.
Like you portraying yourself as a victim? Try to control your princess complex.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:19 pm“they agreed to write a joint letter to the NY Review stating that they would not engage the ID folks because that meant elevating their argument to a position of equality and validity. That instead, they were explaining that they wouldn’t debate ID anymore than they would Santa Claus.”
Unbelievable,
This is the approach I have adopted when it comes to the inane and obscene “9/11 was an inside job” conspiracy theory to which so many posters here laughably (yet sadly) subscribe. Perhaps you would consider doing the same, given your “debate” the other night with such conspiracy theorists, in which despite how many holes you poked through their asburd and paranoid delusions, they refused to accept anything you had to say.
To debate them elevates their argument to a position of equality and validity to which facts and common sense dictate they are not entitled.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:19 pmKirk is a 27% er.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:19 pmCongress’ first order of business upon return could be to adjourn sine die and declare the session ended. Then Fox’s appointment would end.
There is no requirement that Congressional sessions last to any certain date. THe First Congress had 3 sesssions, and at least one Congress had 4.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:20 pmDamn! Does the screwing of this country and its people by the current administration ever end?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:22 pmJPark,
that is because you haven’t read enough of my posts…..you want equal opportunity here it goes…
Rumsfeld f….cked up the Iraq War…I 100% was behind this war to topple Hussein, but Rumsfeld completly f….cked up what came next. He AND Bush decided not to listen to the Powell doctrine, go in strong and with overwhelming numbers…it was not done.
furthermore, while it was Clinton’s army that was there at the begining, meaning that all the equipment or lack there of was because of the Clinton years, Bush has had enough years to equip our troops as they should be equipped, with the best, of the best, of the best. There is ZERO excuse for our troops not to have the necessary armored vehicles and armored protection, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT DID!
I believe that Bush is 100% a politician, just like Clinton was. He is as good at the game as any other seasoned politician. I no way shape or form do I think he is dumb or evil, just like I don’t think Clinton was dumb or evil.
Bush is NOT a conservative at all, Reagan would be ashamed of what Bush has done to the conservative movement.
Jpark, if you have a respectufl debate with me, i’ll respond in kind. Unbelieve has been an idiot since the first time she tried to insult me. She is a buffoon and as such I will treat her how she treats me. Equality is good, right? I am sure unbelieve is for equality, right?
I am for Civil Unions, but against gay marriages. I believe marriages is a religious thing, but civil unions is a human, legal thing. What you do behind closed doors is your problem and I am sick and tired of the right trying to open the door and point fingers at what anyone does behind closed doors.
Ann Coulter is a stupid, pathetic, skinny, ugly looking woman that does more harm to the right causes than good, just like Bill Maher and Al Franken and Rosie O’Donnell.
there are idiots and buffoons on both side of the eisle as well ass intelligent, well spoken, well informed, well educated people.
Hillary is a joke, Obama is a smart guy, but too young (political wise) to become President.
McCain is as much of a flip-flopper as Kerry, Guliani scares me, and Romney is another flip-flopper.
there are not good Presidential candidates at this moment.
I am for gun control, against abortion, for gay equal rights, for a strong military in which people don’t have to worry whether they are gay or not.
I believe that while corporation made this nation the great nation it is today, today corporation only care about the big bucks and not about employees. I think unions are also a disgrace, they were good for their time, but today they are run by big fat cats that have the same salaries as many CEOs.
so as you can see, i don’t fit neatly into any one side of the eisle
April 4th, 2007 at 6:23 pmAn opinion should be the ideas as a result of thought, not the substitute for thought.
Comment by hellinabucket — April 4, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Well said! Too bad the neocons prefer willful ignorance and hatred…
I’m sure the trolls haven’t converted us – it’s those who we oddly call ‘lurkers’ that I wonder about. I feel obligated as a former con myself to those liberals who were willing to offer a contrary opinion based on reason and reality, but doing the same…
It’s a tough call…
April 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pmpablo…
c’mon guy, don’t tell people what the “T” stands for. :) I may have to get Spock to go crazy on you. :)
April 4th, 2007 at 6:25 pmThis line of reasoning is why the Bush admin. is dealing with the enemy in the fashion they are — the enemy will not engage rationally, so dialogue is futile.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — April 4, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Al Qaeda? That’s debatable… I mean we aren’t lily white when it comes to that “conflict”… We have been known to have funded their leader and have taught him that violence is a viable soultion for solving other ‘conflicts’. What exactly did we expect when he had ‘conflicts’ with us? Diplomacy?
The problem is that Bush has labled the enemy as a very broad and reaching group of people and hasn’t limited his actions to defensive. He’s become a pre-emptive war machine who accuses other without substantial proof and then feels empowered by a diety that only speaks to him… Not a logical reason to support his actions. In fact, many studies have shown that the terrorist attacks in the world have increased dramatically since we invaded Iraq.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:31 pmIt’s long past time we ammend the Constitution to get rid of recess appointments. In an age of air travel, the provision is obsolete, and exists only to be abused.
While we’re at it, let’s ammend the thing to require Senate confirmation of all pardons. And make it clear that the unique power of Congress to “declare” war means to initiate it, not to make a statement.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:31 pm#94 I agree with some of what you wrote and disagree with other things. However, when you come on an admittedly liberal site and bash liberals generally and specifically, you are not going to have any meaningful dialogue (if that is what you are actually looking for).
April 4th, 2007 at 6:32 pmTo debate them elevates their argument to a position of equality and validity to which facts and common sense dictate they are not entitled.
Comment by Exley — April 4, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
I’ve considered that… but the difference here seems to be that ignoring the ID crowd isn’t going to get anyone killed. People believing that buildings are far safer than they actually are probably did on 9/11 and possible could in the future as taller and taller buildings are being erected across the globe… I feel profesionally obligated to dispell the myths.
Well, I’ve gotta run for any Inside Job folks thinking of going there…
Nice talking to those of you – left and right – who can have an adult discussion about the issues :D We need to keep remembering that we are ALL Americans…
Peace!
April 4th, 2007 at 6:35 pm“I feel profesionally obligated to dispell the myths.”
Fair enough, Unbelievable. Fair enough.
Have a good evening.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:38 pm#90 The problem is there are very few actual Republicans or conservatives that come to this site for valid dialogue or debate. Most are here to insult everything left and see how much they can disrupt threads. Just look at MA and Patrick. What is their point to being on this site. They hate us, so I am guessing they have some strange borderline personality issue. Maybe mommy issues. But once they inject their crap into a thread, it is much less likely that you will get a reasoned debate out of the liberals because scum like that has already tainted the well.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:39 pmJPark,
agreed, I am just tired of the crying from both sides, when politicians on both sides act exactly the same…..like politicians.
I am sick of the left always attacking Bush and hating him just for the sake of hating him, much like the right hate Clinton for the sake of hating Clinton.
the problem is that individuals like unbelieve and others here and in right wing sites will never accept that politicans from the right and left are all one and the same…..politicians.
It is very hard to have insightful debates with partisan hacsk whether from the right or left.
we all need to see beyond party lines and start seeing each other as Americans, not as Republicans and Democrats.
divide and conquer, right? isn’t this what ALL politicans do?
if for once the American people united against ALL politicians, these morons (from both sides of the eisle) would stop raping us (Figuratively speaking, of course)
April 4th, 2007 at 6:41 pmJPark,
have you been to right wing sites? it is the same thing….very few liberals go to those site to actually debate and exchange ideas….most of the liberals go to insult and are so full of hate for conservatieves and Republicans…..just like you point out there are Republicans and conservatives that do the same thing…
April 4th, 2007 at 6:42 pmTo debate them elevates their argument to a position of equality and validity to which facts and common sense dictate they are not entitled.
Comment by Exley — April 4, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
this are the type of idiotic comments that are spewed by both sides of the eisle that make zero sense.
I mean don’t you know that that is exactly, i mean verbatum what conservatives in right wing sites will say about debating a liberal?
both sides are so closed minded, so, so closed minded and are unwilling to hear the other side of the coin…why?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:48 pm#103 I am sick of the left always attacking Bush and hating him just for the sake of hating him, much like the right hate Clinton for the sake of hating Clinton.
Honestly, nobody hates a person for the sake of hating. I could give you 100 reasons why I despise the man and his policies. The disdain of Bush was not created in a void. He brought it on himself (with the help of Rove and Cheney).
It is very hard to have insightful debates with partisan hacsk whether from the right or left.
So, by your definition if someone has strong beliefs that happen to be left or right, they are hacks? What about people who have strong centrist beliefs? Are they hacks?
we all need to see beyond party lines and start seeing each other as Americans, not as Republicans and Democrats.
It is too late for that. There is a lot of cleaning up to do. The Bush administration has done a whole lot of damage to the country with the help of a rubber stamp Republican Congress. Who do you think it falls to to do the cleanup since the Republicans are disinclined.
if for once the American people united against ALL politicians, these morons (from both sides of the eisle) would stop raping us (Figuratively speaking, of course)
I am really not sure what you are proposing. I think the Dems are on the right track with oversite and the strengthening of ethics rules in Congress.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:50 pm” Yeah, like America isn’t going to notice this one.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 4, 2007″
Duh! You think?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:53 pm“he did this with Bolton as well, correct?
always taking the sneeky underhanded route huh Dub?
bastard
Comment by hil — April 4, 2007″
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
April 4th, 2007 at 6:54 pm#104 The difference is different points of view are not allowed on right wing sites. If you have an opposing view you are deleted (and those are the ones that actually allow posting). If you have a valid opinion (even if you don’t) TP doesn’t delete you. I agree that some will attack an opposing opinion on this site even if it is well thought out. However, I think you would be surprised at how many people would love to have a conversation.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:54 pm“I don’t think he’ll be to well liked in Belgium either..
Comment by BlueJersey — April 4, 2007″
Why? Are you making an assumption that he wasn’t well liked here?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:55 pm#105 Actually you just responded to a conservative. One of the more reasonable ones.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:56 pm“I could give you 100 reasons why I despise the man and his policies. The disdain of Bush was not created in a void. He brought it on himself (with the help of Rove and Cheney”
Ok, what is number 1? Hold it, I think I know, does it have anything to do with Florida?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:57 pmCase in point, Captain Kirk. See the above tripe from Michael. Those lame remarks are not going to be deleted.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:57 pm“What about people who have strong centrist beliefs?”
And just who are these people?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:58 pm#112 Run along, sonny.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:58 pmThe hallmark of this entire Bush administration has been nothing but abuse of authority and utter contempt of the rule of law.
It would be easier in a dictatorship, as long as I’m the dictator-George W. Bush
The Constitution is just a god damn piece of paper-George W. Bush
I can only pray that our generals have had enough and do to Bush/Cheney what German generals tried to do to Hitler on 20 July 1944.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:59 pmJPark,
I completly agree that Republicans became what they promise they weren’t going to become back in 1994 when they won.
Democrats didn’t give much oversight the one year they were in power along with Clinton, but that is NOT an excuse.
I do believe that our government works better when two different parties are in control of Congress and the White House. I don’t think it is good when one party controls all branches of government. You become too comfortable and start doing things you would never do if the other party was looking over your shoulder.
Now I believe that Democrats are out for blood a lot more than they are for oversight. example…..Harry Reid was for a troop surge until Demceber 2006 when the President announce his idea for a tropp surge.
In fact there are many quotes from Bush saying that he didn’t want the troop surge that many Democrats wanted….but the second that Bush agreed with Democrats on a troop surge what happened? Democrats that were for it, went against it…..politics at play and NOt the best interest of America or Iraqis.
i believe that Democrats are over reaching right now and are 100% misreading why they won this past election.
They won it because people were tired of corruption, not because people wanted us to pull out of Iraq and stop fighting the War on Terror.
I also believe that you can’t hate someone unless you know them personally. As much as I may dislike a person, it is impossible to hate somone you have never met.
as for the hacks, yes, there are hacks all over the place that close their mind and can’t believe for a second that they may be wrong, centrists, right wingers, left wingers, all can be hacks. I don’t think a partisan hack is someone that falls to the right left or center, but rather someone that is 100% unwilling to even think that they may be wrong and that they put party ID over American progress.
As for Democrats strengthening our ethic rules, well I don’t know. Murtha, Jefferons, Pelosi, Reid, not exactly the bastions of ethics when it comes to Congress, but yes, oversight is good and that is something that Republicans didn’t do with this administration.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:00 pm“both sides are so closed minded, so, so closed minded and are unwilling to hear the other side of the coin…why?
Comment by Captain Kirk — April 4, 2007″
I’m willing to listen to the liberal side of a particular subject no matter how idiotic it is! And believe me I get plenty of it here! Just read some of zooey’s posts?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:04 pmReason #1 why I hate George W Bush:
Because he and Laura partook in synchronized nose picking while he was the owner of the Texas Rangers.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:04 pmI can only pray that our generals have had enough and do to Bush/Cheney what German generals tried to do to Hitler on 20 July 1944.
Comment by Uncle Ho — April 4, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
I mean honestly, what level of hate is this? this is stupid, idiotic, moronic, etc, etc, etc……no different between teh commemnt above and the stupidites that Ann Coulter says.
the thing is that a comment like the one above will get the Secret Service knocking atyour door regardless of party affiliation.
everyone needs to condemn posts like Michaels and like this one, but I will have to say that I haven’t read posts from Michael calling for the death of Democratic party leaders….I mean he could have post them up, but I have read anything like the hate from Uncle Ho….
April 4th, 2007 at 7:05 pm“The Constitution is just a god damn piece of paper-George W. Bush
I can only pray that our generals have had enough and do to Bush/Cheney what German generals tried to do to Hitler on 20 July 1944.
Comment by Uncle Ho — April 4, 2007″
You’re an idiot!
April 4th, 2007 at 7:05 pmCapt Kirk says it’s all Clinton’s fault for the military we have…
Excuse me.. if we spend 1 our of every 4 dollars collected from taxes on our military, and it can’t afford basic soldiers needs, it’s not Clinton’s fault. He hadn’t been president for 3 years, we could have handled Afghanistan, but he spread the military thin invading a country over made up intelligence. It’s the fault of those who decided to send us to war! They had a decision to make, wait 6 months and gear up the war machine, or prematurely ejaculate. (something you sound familiar with). Don’t forget Clinton did not control the purse strings during much of his term, that was a republican congress.
So take your fiction somewhere else moron. You’re no more independent that my left nut is from my right.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:07 pmWell if this doesn’t finally signal the end of Bush’s fake game-delaying bi-partisanship, I don’t know what would. Let’s get right back to the business of dealing out the cuts! About 950 or so to go…
April 4th, 2007 at 7:07 pmCaptain Kirk=Asswipe
Something that goes around Uranus wiping out klingons.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:09 pmHAHAHA,
did you bother to read my post, or did you read Clinton, military and assumed the rest?
JPark,
Hahaha is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Instead of having a debate, it is just insults, insults and then, more insults……
April 4th, 2007 at 7:12 pmCaptain Kirk, aren’t you overdue for your daily blowjob from KKK Rove?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:12 pmKapitan Quirk
April 4th, 2007 at 7:12 pmYou got Troubles With Dribbl… I mean Tribbles?
Jpark,
Left Coast Mike is another example of the hate, the filth, and the lack of open mindness found on both side of the eisle. Instead of debating the facts all they do is spew hate and insults.
don’t worry, the same thing happens on the right wing sites…..
April 4th, 2007 at 7:14 pmYou this is Clinton’s military talking point was blown out of the water in 2001. The first thing Rummy did when he was appointed Secretary of Defense was to cut the military by 10%. His whole plan was a lean mean military that wasn’t about numbers, but was about weaponry. That is why we attacked Iraq with so few soldiers. There whole plan was to show that a war could be fought with fewer soldiers.
Next talking point please.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:14 pmmichael & Kirk, since Bush clearly has a wannabe fuhrer complex, he should suffer the consequences.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:15 pmImagine that…..The Lying Chimp did something slimey and underhanded.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:16 pmThere’s one simple reading of the recess appointment power that could be interpreted against Bush in this case (and in most other cases that he’s used the power).
April 4th, 2007 at 7:19 pmI see the trolls show up spend all of their energy not talking about the failures of the Bush Presidency including the recess appointments of losers like Bolton and Fox. That a Senate made up of shits like Lieberman, McCain, and Graham can’t get extremists like Fox appointed for Bush says a lot about modern “conservatism.” Looks like the behavior of Bush, Rove, and the neocons will put a quick end to the “permanent Republican majority.”
April 4th, 2007 at 7:19 pmwouldn’t you think this was the last criminal act this pervert should be allowed to do?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:19 pmCaptain Kirk
Why is it that your come back and comments concern the Dems anger rather than the issues creating the anger? This is the word smithing, tactics games you guys play to avoid the real topic.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:20 pm“everyone needs to condemn posts like Michaels
Comment by Captain Kirk — April 4, 2007″
When you condemn one of my posts please explain why?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:20 pmSpudge Boy,
did you know it was the left, mainly Al Franken who started the whole thing that the armed forces that went into Afghanistan was Clinton’s armed forces? not the right, but the left…
so, if we go with Al franken’s logic the lack of armored vehicles and vest during the first months of the war was the fault of who?
anyway, as I stated before, I agree with Al franken, the first months and even the first year of the Afghan war it was Clinton’s army there, but after that Bush should have gotten everything for our armed forces.
and very true, Rumsfeld since as far back as the 1980s has been for a smaller, quicker, more techy armed forces.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:21 pmmicheal; Go away, your fuhrer is calling you.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:23 pmBush can appoint cronies to positions like this all his black little heart desires. It’s the ones in FEMA, the Justice Department, the Supreme Court, the EPA, the FDA, the USDA, the MSHA, the Department of Defense, the IRS, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the Department of the Interior, and on and on and on — those are the incompetent cronies we should worry about. And, like rats, their numbers have multiplied with each passing day as they suck our Treasury dry.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:23 pmMichael,
coming in here and insulting people you disagree with gets you no where.
don’t lower yourself to the level of people like Uncle Ho who call for the assasination of our President, it is ridiculous. I know you haven’t done that, but don’t give ammunition to individuals that disagree with you. It is like Ann coulter always spewing her mouth off, she is always giving ammunition to the left to be used against the right, correct?
Engage in a debate even if the left doesn’t and I guarantee you that those that know will respect you and those that don’t know will insult you, but why lower yourself to their level, right?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:24 pmHey ho! I just sent your post to mail@cia.gov! Sleep well tonight!
April 4th, 2007 at 7:24 pm#132 – P O’Neill
Hmmmm. Excellent point.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:24 pm“don’t worry, the same thing happens on the right wing sites…..
Comment by Captain Kirk — April 4, 2007″
Really? Which ones?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:26 pm“Imagine that…..The Lying Chimp did something slimey and underhanded.
Comment by Zooey — April 4, 2007 ”
And what would that be zoo?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:27 pmGeorge W. Bush is simply begging to be impeached. His continued tirades and obvious delusional take on reality are overwhelming him at this point. Today’s sound bite was priceless: er….um….(huge pregnant pause in which brain’s synaptic activity all but ceased) and then he spewed out some nonsense about Iraq not being a “civil war” but being “pure evil”…wha????? This comment coming from our Commander in Chief and head of our Military??? What kind of military description would “pure evil” be???
Pure evil, what?? And precisely which side is the “pure evil”. Wow! This guy has totally gone over the edge this time!
Soon he’ll be pelted with anything handy just like his slimebag #1 man, RoveReich was at American University by the students. Any wonder why collegians are overwhelmingly supporting Barak Obama?
The Bush Cabal and their shenanigans and chicanery is THE best PR for any Democratic candidate, bar none! Keep the chicanery coming, Bushies….keep it coming….it’s tanking your party in 08 and may bring about the total disintegration of the Republican Party before Bush leaves office.
I once was for impeachment; now I’m not so sure. Actually, allowing these idiots to exhibit their idiocy only recruits people for the “democratic cause” – taking back this democracy from special interest, mega corporations, war profiteers, and slimey politicos.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:28 pmI’m late to this thread, so if it’s been said already, I apologize, but,
April 4th, 2007 at 7:28 pm
“I see the trolls show up spend all of their energy not talking about the failures of the Bush Presidency including the recess appointments of losers like Bolton and Fox.
Comment by AboveTheClouds — April 4, 2007″
And maybe you can explain to all of us why you think they are losers?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:30 pmAS LONG AS IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE
WE ARE LIVING IN A DICTATORSHIP!!!
Comment by Briseadh_na_faire
One can never say it too often….
April 4th, 2007 at 7:32 pmCapt Spurt,
I’ve read enough of your spin to last me a life time. and yes I read your entire post, why did you even mention Clinton then? It’s not his fault AT ALL. It is 100% Dubya’s. So why even bring up Clintons name, did you read what I said? REPUBNUTS controlled congress for Clintons term. It’s also the last congress fault. Are you all so Jealous of clinton’s BJ that 7 years after he’s left office you still bring him up?
Again you claim to be independent, but all you do is spew RIGHT WING republican bullcrap. If haven’t heard an independent thought out of your head yet.
And you’re one to talk about insults, it’s all I’ve seen from you. So if you want to act like a grown up, you might get treated like one, until then despite what you’ve been spewing, we are not weak, and we’ll attack right back. And most “left leaning” people on here wouldn’t waste time on a right wing site, know why? If after all the BS Bush and the last congresses pulled on America, and they’re not smart enough to stop supporting them, going to their sites would be a waste of time. It’s only you right wingers who come here thinking you can “preach to us”.
It’s a lesser of two evils, and while they’re all politicians, you gotta make a choice. And I feel the choice I’ve made is the right one, at least my politicians talk about doing the right thing, you know like raising minimum wage, national health care, congressional and presidential oversight, global warming, and many other issues that affect all of us.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:32 pm“Michael,
coming in here and insulting people you disagree with gets you no where.
don’t lower yourself to the level of people like Uncle Ho who call for the assasination of our President, it is ridiculous. I know you haven’t done that, but don’t give ammunition to individuals that disagree with you. It is like Ann coulter always spewing her mouth off, she is always giving ammunition to the left to be used against the right, correct?
Engage in a debate even if the left doesn’t and I guarantee you that those that know will respect you and those that don’t know will insult you, but why lower yourself to their level, right?
Comment by Captain Kirk — April 4, 2007″
First off captain you must be new here and don’t understand me, I’m not insulting them I’m making fun of their stupidity. Engage in a debate? With these 6th graders? You must be kidding? Hang around awhile, you’ll get use to it!
April 4th, 2007 at 7:35 pmholy crap! what about the other recess appointments this prick named today?!?!?!?
The president used recess appointments to install Sam Fox, a major Republican donor from Missouri, to be ambassador to Belgium; Andrew G. Biggs of New York to be deputy commissioner of Social Security, and Susan E. Dudley of Virginia to be administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs at the office of Management and Budget.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/04/washington/04cnd-bush.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
a “private accounts” proponent and an anti-regulation regulator !!!
April 4th, 2007 at 7:37 pmwoo hoo!
…
#103 The more accurate assessment of your premise is that people dispise George Bush not for the sake of hating him, per se; he’s making it virtually impossible for anyone in this country to respect him. He acts like a demented cowboy, a schoolyard bully, has no sense of diplomacy & tact, and has basically destroyed this democracy in one fell swoop. And you say that people enjoy hating him for the sake of hating?? au contraire you brainwashed troll….au contraire! Bush has brought it on by the stolen elections, by his sitting reading with 6 year olds while the WTC collapsed, sitting on his fat rump while thousands perished in Katrina, the ongoing lies…the blaming of fall guys instead of acting like a true commander in chief and realizing that, unless one is a total wimp, the “buck stops right on his desk”….he is irresponsible, unaccountable, and believes himself to be above the law. Fortunately, for the people who uphold this constitution, we will see to it that he is investigated for his criminal activities this time (not like his expunged DUI, drug arrests, etc.) No, not this time!
In fact, the largest “overreaching” this man did was to rig the election in Ohio in 2004, yeparoo! His lust for power and personal greed made it irresistible, didn’t it? He could have left office in 2004 with at least a facade of respect and dignity following him…..but his critical error in judgment was allowing enough time for the people to get a belly full of his charades and disrupt his congressional usurpation by giving Dems the majority. Now, his legacy will certainly be “the most corrupt president in history” as his last days will be filled with daily scandals and skeletons being drawn out of every nook and cranny of his administration. He’ll be fortunate to walk out of office and not have to be hospitalized for schizophrenia before his term is up.
This is the case of a very sick man. He is sicker than the people realize and certainly getting more psychologically compromised with each passing day….
April 4th, 2007 at 7:37 pmsorry about the caps guys….didn’t realize they were on!
Mea culpa….and you’re right…as long as impeachment is off the table, we are living in a dictatorship. Time to press Pelosi (flood her with mail) about putting impeachment back on the table!
April 4th, 2007 at 7:40 pmCaptain Kirk,
Did you know that you are talking about a different subject than I am?
Here’s you.
Here’s me.
Myself and most of the people here don’t have a problem with the war in Afghanistan. You won’t hear this from right wing radio. They would have you believe we are all against every war and are anti-military. That is just plain silly. I was in the military during Desert Storm. I am for killing terrorists and believe that we should be fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan and fighting al Qaida in Pakistan. Iraq is a huge waste of time, money and most importantly American lives.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:41 pmmichael, what are they going to do? draft me again? as far as I’m concerned, you and all other trolls, bushitler, 5-deferment dickhead cheney, the cia, nsa, etc can f*ck off.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:43 pmMichael,
yes, most of them are 6th graders full of hate. They don’t even know why they hate, they were told just to hate and they hate. I will agree, once in a blue moon someone like Zep Tepi or another intelligent person that posts here will have a meaningful exchange….
but by reading the respond to my posts you are right, most of the people here are 6th graders.
Look at HAHAHA, obssesed with me bringing up Clinton.
They see neocons everywhere…HAHAHA, careful BOOH a neocon is about to get you!!!
hey kid, hahaha, get Clinton’s d….k out of your mouth, you will start making some sense.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:43 pmCaptain Kirk,
This is exactly why we treat michael the way we do. He doesn’t want to debate anything. He wants to insult and this fu*king retard is too stupid to capitalize his own fu*king name.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:43 pm…as far as I’m concerned, you and all other trolls, bushitler, 5-deferment dickhead cheney, the cia, nsa, etc can f*ck off.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Well said, Uncle Ho. How’s it going?
April 4th, 2007 at 7:48 pmWell Captain Kirk, from your last post it is clear that you would rather be a fu*king troll like michael, so I wouldn’t expect any amount of respect from anybody on the site from here on out. Have fun d!ckhead.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:50 pmWow. I think the comments on “to respond or not respond” to trolls are great. Here are some questions/points:
1. Has a troll ever listened and responded to a liberal point of view aside from bashing it? –con’t
2. i.e. Has a troll ever said, “I see your point”
3. There are different levels of trolls…true. What makes them different?
4. I think we should engage those that rarely say something reasonable. Though to me “troll” means unreasonable. So, ignore the taunts and trolls
that just hang around everyday inserting 1 or 2 line flames.
5. There was a time when responding to their attacks was more important and we did nothing – 3-6 years ago for instance. Now, with their talking points and stink bombs getting more and more weak and transparent, I don’t see the point. I think at this point we need to form a more united Progressive bond/group. Comment more on good progressive comments and develope those. Support them. That means not letting trolls trash the converstation and turn it into witty shit piles. God knows we’d all like to put them in their places…….I wasn’t going to be that polite..
6. The right wings days are over.
7. Some trolls will try to re-engage and re-enter the conversation by throwing out a one line question ( usually offensive. )
Ala Fox New’s tactic. They couldn’t care less about an answer. The point is to wiggle into the discussion. I won’t oblige them.
8. The trolls with big words have to be carefully read. If they merit a response, respond. If it’s just more fancy shit, do not.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:50 pmThoughts for the day.
Captian Kirk: “I believe that while corporation made this nation the great nation it is today, today corporation only care about the big bucks and not about employees. I think unions are also a disgrace, they were good for their time, but today they are run by big fat cats that have the same salaries as many CEOs.
so as you can see, i don’t fit neatly into any one side of the eisle”
Yikes. Dude, where do you get your ideas? Average CEO pay is about 100 times the average for union leaders. And, wise up. Corporations did not make this nation great. If anything, corporations are ruining the nation. The Founders of our nation had a deep distrust of corporations. You had to dismantle any corporation after 40 years and it was illegal for any corporation to own shares in another corporation until the 1880’s. Until the late 19th century, it was a criminal offense in most states for a corporation to give to any political campaign.
You keep complaining that libs don’t want to engage or debate you in a civil manner. Maybe a good start would be for you to get your facts straight about something.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:52 pmHave fun d!ckhead.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
I’m surprised how patient you were with that one. :D
April 4th, 2007 at 7:53 pmHiya Zooey! Things are OK, We had a protest at our local Wal-mart the other day, I’ll be in Detroit on Monday for a local antiwar protest, and another antiwar protest in Port Huron in 2 weeks.
If michael thinks sending my posts to the cia scares me, he don’t know me very well at all. after Vietnam, do you really think I give a sh*t about what the gov’t thinks of me? Come to think of it, the navy marked me as a ‘troublemaker’ while I was in the service. So, nothing has changed there.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:02 pm“so, if we go with Al franken’s logic the lack of armored vehicles and vest during the first months of the war was the fault of who?”
Answer — the filthy dirty lying war profiteering sonofabitches that got us into that war of choice in the first place. An unbelieveable rush to war in fact: rushed before the evidence contrary to the pack of lies surfaced. Before stories like Joe Wilson’s increased in frequency. “Ohhhhh we gotta go to war with the army we got, not the one we want…” That’s who.
These bastards will never — EVER — place accountability for this disaster on anyone but themselves.
Yeah, I know, everything is Clinton’s fault. You should hear how people laugh at your sorry ass for saying something so bone-deep stupid. Is that all you’ve got? Do you remember the surplus Clinton handed this drunken sailor? Oh, hell no — have to fall back on the Republican Party motto for that one: “I can’t recall.”
Next we’ll be hearing some nonsense about fighting them over there instead of fighting them over here, like al Qaeda was some great big hairy purple monster that can only be in one place at a time. Or some jibberjabber about not caring if the government is listening to your phone calls without a warrant because you have nothing to hide. Or some spittle-punctuated yammering about how torture is just fine because these heathens haven’t accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and so are going straight to Hell anyhow.
Whatever drug-addled Viagra-deviant Rush Limbaugh and that peculiarly stupid water boy Hannity are dishing out as talking points this week. Or the sloped forehead of Neandrathal who calls himself The Savage Weiner. Or Loofaboy. Yammer, yammer, yammer. Not one — not one — original thought. In fact, dare speak an original thought and Loofaboy cuts your mic. Yammer, yammer, yammer, all in one big maniacal circle, like a troop of masturbating baboons.
In response to an expression of outrage that our country would condone torture, I’ve been confronted with statments like “where’s your outrage about the beheadings?” I literally had to explain that I’m outraged about a lot of things. It was only then I realized: conservatives only have the capacity to harbor outrage about one thing at a time. It’s the old thing about walking and chewing gum — you know what I mean. Based on that revelation, it’s obvious that the conservatives’ outrage slot still holds Clinton in it, so all the outrageous criminal activity that’s been happening lately passes by unnoticed.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:06 pmCome to think of it, the navy marked me as a ‘troublemaker’ while I was in the service. So, nothing has changed there.
Comment by Uncle Ho
You were labeled a troublemaker? It sounds like high praise to me. This government can get bent. Michael should send all our comments to the cia.
I’m pretty immersed in various projects and exams at school, so I no longer have any idea what’s going on protest-wise. This too shall pass. :-D
April 4th, 2007 at 8:06 pmThe Democrats should avoid this underhandedness by keeping Congress in session indefinitely. Then when the tired Republicans leave to go home, they can gavel in whatever they like.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:15 pmZooey; lifers would quote to me. “yours is not to reason why, but to do and die”. My response was to quote back to them the Nuremberg rulings about ‘I was only following orders is no defense”, and that soldiers are not to submit blindly to higher ranking authorities, and it is not only a soldier’s right but his duty to question orders. That did not sit well with the lifers, along with my antiwar sentiments-hence, the ‘troublemaker’ entry in my file.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:20 pmmichael; just for the record. If I were face-to-face with Bush or Cheney, I would have NO problem spitting in their eyes and call them murdering war criminals- which they are. “Savages speak their insults to a man’s face” someone once said.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:25 pm#166 – Uncle Ho
I’m giving you a standing ovation, Uncle Ho! That’s the coolest thing I’ve ever heard. I can just see those lifers going red to purple in the face. :)
April 4th, 2007 at 8:29 pmZooey, I try to discuss things with every one of these people that come on. They all say they want to debate, but they don’t. Dale said he wanted to debate and is now just a troll, Captain Kirk, troll, just like the rest of them.
hacker bob seems to be one of the only ones we have right now that wants to discuss topics.
I wish we had more hacker bobs.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:42 pmThank you kindly Zooey. The lifers were really sh*tting purple bricks. This was back in the Nam days, and michael thinks he’s going to scare me by sending my post to the man? He’s about 4 decades too late. If I didn’t give a flying f*ck back then, why would I now? What are they going to do-send me to Vietnam?
to keep up on protests in your area, keep checking http://www.unitedforpeace.org under events.
April 4th, 2007 at 8:45 pmHey Spudge, how’s it hangin’?
April 4th, 2007 at 8:46 pmI wish we had more hacker bobs.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Me, too. Make sure you tell him that. :D
April 4th, 2007 at 8:48 pmIt was a “swift” move!
Visit: http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://OsiSpeaks.org
April 4th, 2007 at 9:16 pmCome to think of it, the navy marked me as a ‘troublemaker’ while I was in the service. So, nothing has changed there.
Comment by Uncle Ho — April 4, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Sniff, sniff – michael, that little dufus, sent your name to the CIA, sniff, sniff. We’re so proud of you Uncle Ho.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:27 pmLike I said Shane, what are they going to do? I became radicalized from my personal first-hand encounter with ” the Vietnam Experience”. I am a lifelong member of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and an official “card-carrying member of the ACLU.”.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:42 pmI am a lifelong member of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and an official “card-carrying member of the ACLU.â€.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Oh my god, Uncle Ho. Were it possible, I would want to have your babies. Heh. :-D
April 4th, 2007 at 9:48 pm#
Congress’ first order of business upon return could be to adjourn sine die and declare the session ended. Then Fox’s appointment would end.
There is no requirement that Congressional sessions last to any certain date. THe First Congress had 3 sesssions, and at least one Congress had 4.
Comment by greggp — April 4, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Interesting you should bring this up…I just read an article postulating the possibility of doing exactly that, with the possible legal ramifications, both ways.
http://colloquy.law.northwestern.edu/main/2007/01/senate_terminat.html
April 4th, 2007 at 9:50 pmZooey; possible or not, it’s still fun to try. So, let’s make babies. Lots of little Zooeys and Uncle Hos. : )
April 4th, 2007 at 9:54 pmZooey; possible or not, it’s still fun to try. So, let’s make babies. Lots of little Zooeys and Uncle Hos. : )
Comment by Uncle Ho
Damn right! Man, those would be some “bad” kids. I’d be so proud!
April 4th, 2007 at 9:58 pmLots of little Zooeys and Uncle Hos.
Sorry.
That just sounds wrong.
:}
April 4th, 2007 at 9:59 pmboth sides are so closed minded, so, so closed minded and are unwilling to hear the other side of the coin…why?
Comment by Captain Kirk
The media, which by the way isn’t Liberal, or Conservative, it is Centrist. Look what we have for reporters today: Pundits. They aren’t interested in giving the news they are interested in creating controversy and dividing the public for their political view and propagating their opinion.
It’s like a Political soap opera of fakes and cranks.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:59 pmI’m not insulting them I’m making fun of their stupidity. Engage in a debate? -Michael
Michael you have never made an intelligent point worth debating nor an intelligent question. The points you do try yo make come directly from the Limbaugh website.
The one time I did ‘debate’ you had nothing and were easily beaten.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:06 pmThat just sounds wrong.
:}
Comment by trueblue
Such as buzzkill…..
April 4th, 2007 at 10:08 pmThe one time I did ‘debate’ you had nothing and were easily beaten.
Comment by Zep Tepi
Zep,
Michael is the “one minute wonder” of debating.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:10 pm#183 – Do over!!!
Such a buzzkill….
Heh…just one glass of wine.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:11 pmOK trueblue; come up with some names for the babies.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:12 pmThe Human buzzkill, that’s me!
:P
April 4th, 2007 at 10:14 pmReally, isn’t it time to just RICO the entire GOP?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:18 pm“Recess Appointment”, SAME AS IN John Bolton’s CASE–THIS KIND OF CRIMINAL FLAUNTING OF EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY, ALONG WITH CHIMPya’s CRIMINAL, ILLEGAL “Signing Statements”, ARE GOING TO COME DOWN ON CHIMPya’s HEAD LIKE A TON OF BRICKS AND SQUASH THIS LOATHESOME BUG(-GER) CHIMPya FLATTER THAN A PLUGGED NICKEL PUT UNDER A THOUSAND-TON STAMPING MACHINE!!!!!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:20 pmOK trueblue; come up with some names for the babies.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Too funny, oh my god…
true,
No Mary Zooey or Francis Ho. :D
April 4th, 2007 at 10:22 pmOK trueblue; come up with some names for the babies.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Uncle Ho,
If we pull this off, science will owe me a debt of gratitude. :D
April 4th, 2007 at 10:23 pmThrough modern science, I do believe that last year a 63- year old gave birth last year id memory serves. Still wanna try? :-)
2234- time to go. I had some fun tonite. Goodbye and good luck.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:28 pmonce again bush bends the American people over and sticks it to us.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 pmhow many more times is congress going to drop the soap?
Through modern science, I do believe that last year a 63- year old gave birth last year id memory serves. Still wanna try? :-)
2234- time to go. I had some fun tonite. Goodbye and good luck.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Try – yes.
Succeed – no.
:D
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 pmonce again bush bends the American people over and sticks it to us while cheney watches from the shrubbery.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:34 pmhow many more times is congress going to drop the soap?
once again bush bends the American people over and sticks it to us.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:35 pmhow many more times is congress going to drop the soap
once again bush bends the American people over and sticks it to us.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:36 pmhow many more times is congress going to drop the soap
once again bush bends the American people over and sticks it to us.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:37 pmhow many more times is congress going to drop the soap
Wow, nully. Four times?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:37 pmonce again bush bends the American people over and sticks it to us!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:38 pmhow many more times is congress going to drop the soap?
once again bush tips the American people over and sticks it to us!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:39 pmhow many more times is congress going to drop the soap?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Jesus christ….
April 4th, 2007 at 10:45 pmWhat? What do you want? I’m watching ‘Top Design’ – they are down to the last three.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:53 pmNeed to start suing him in court….repeatedly and with gusto.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:53 pmWhat? What do you want? I’m watching ‘Top Design’ – they are down to the last three.
Comment by Jesus Christ
What does that have to do with posting the same thing so many times!? LOL
April 4th, 2007 at 10:59 pmSorry about that, I was riveted to my seat, three people left. I’d never thought the dude with the uncommitted carpenter would have won….
Someone called my name and well sometimes I answer. You know can’t allow everyone to get complacent and have every call answered, but every now and again.
Anyway, busy week as you might expect gotta go – big party night tomorrow…wine, bread, goofing about in the park… probably get arrested like last time.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:06 pmJust call your dad for bail money. :D
April 4th, 2007 at 11:12 pmNope, Dad’s a right bastard sometimes: he just ditched me to teach me a lesson and I woke up on Sunday morning with a f*** of a hangover, scratches and holes all over me. It’s not like I get a bit wild with the boys more than once a year…for Christ’s sake…
April 4th, 2007 at 11:19 pmThat’ll teach ya. Dad’s can be such bastards sometimes. Holy cow.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:22 pmHoly cow.
Wrong department, Ghandi’s office is down the hall from mine.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:25 pmWrong department, Ghandi’s office is down the hall from mine.
Comment by Jesus Christ
Oy. What do you expect from me? I’m drunk off my ass. :D
All I can think is BBQ….
April 4th, 2007 at 11:29 pm#156 yes, most of them are 6th graders full of hate. They don’t even know why they hate, they were told just to hate and they hate. I will agree, once in a blue moon someone like Zep Tepi or another intelligent person that posts here will have a meaningful exchange….
I tried with you dipsh!t. I actually attempted to have a dialogue with you. No longer, troll. You are nothing but a Rove troll. Now, dump the whoa is me bull. It is fake. You are an attack dog for the right and no amount of dancing will change that.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:31 pm“michael, what are they going to do? draft me again? as far as I’m concerned, you and all other trolls, bushitler, 5-deferment dickhead cheney, the cia, nsa, etc can f*ck off.
Comment by Uncle Ho — April 4, 2007″
God, you are so intelligent! Has the CIA showed up at your door yet? Because I REALLY did send them your comment!
April 4th, 2007 at 11:34 pmWhat would you expect from an Flip-Flopping, AWOL, preppy, spoiled rotten, Yale Cheerleader. Everything he has done all his life has been underhanded when he couldn’t get things his way.
Flip:
“The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.”
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
Six months later…….
April 4th, 2007 at 11:36 pmFlop:
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
#160 I fully agree. I tried to engage Captain Kirk because I thought he might be worthwhile to talk to. I was clearly wrong. He is a stinking righty troll that would get along well with Michael, Patrick and Tranny. I won’t make that mistake again.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:36 pm“Captain Kirk,
This is exactly why we treat michael the way we do. He doesn’t want to debate anything. He wants to insult and this fu*king retard is too stupid to capitalize his own fu*king name.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 4, 2007″
I get tired of this challenge. I try to engage zooey and she runs and hides, spudge is no different. Try me spudge?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:36 pmGod, you are so intelligent! Has the CIA showed up at your door yet? Because I REALLY did send them your comment!
Comment by michael — April 4, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
The intelligent thing to do would have meant you sent the post to the FBI…. domestic law enforcement….what a prat.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:37 pmitmfa
April 4th, 2007 at 11:37 pm“Well said, Uncle Ho. How’s it going?
Comment by Zooey — April 4, 2007″
What did he say zoo?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:37 pm“Well Captain Kirk, from your last post it is clear that you would rather be a fu*king troll like michael,
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 4, 2007″
Can you provide us with some specific examples?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:39 pm#169 I am an eternal optimist. I actually don’t consider those like Exley trolls despite his incredible arrogance. There just aren’t more than…one Republican visitor on the site worth talking to.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:39 pmMichael, my five-year-old is already in bed…. maybe you can try him next time. He yells ‘DID SO’ really loudly,
April 4th, 2007 at 11:39 pmGod, you are so intelligent! Has the CIA showed up at your door yet? Because I REALLY did send them your comment!
Comment by michael
Send all of our comments to the CIA, asswipe. We don’t live in fear like you do. There’s nothing they can do to us that hasn’t been done already — can you understand that? Have you had such a perfect and unscathed life, that you think the CIA could have an effect?
Wake up, moron.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:40 pm“Wow. I think the comments on “to respond or not respond†to trolls are great. Here are some questions/points:
2. i.e. Has a troll ever said, “I see your pointâ€
Comment by s — April 4, 2007″
Has a liberal made a valid point on this blog?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:41 pmWhat did he say zoo?
Comment by michael
We’re gonna have hot sex and have little baby Zooeys and Uncle Hos — doesn’t that just scare you to death?
Shut up.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:42 pm#217 I get tired of this challenge. I try to engage zooey and she runs and hides, spudge is no different. Try me spudge?
You are a pud, Michael. You do nothing but insult. You don’t actually bring anything substantial to ANY conversation. Why would anybody take you seriously? Even your co-troll, Kirk, thinks you are a jag.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:44 pm“Have fun d!ckhead.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
I’m surprised how patient you were with that one. :D
Comment by Zooey — April 4, 2007″
I knew someone with such a limited access to intelligence as you would be so impressed with his comment!
April 4th, 2007 at 11:44 pm#225 Yes, they have. Your turn. Make sense for once.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:45 pm#228 You need to have an IQ over 80 to insult somebodies intelligence so just stop.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:48 pm#223 That made me laugh. It is so true.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:48 pm“Michael, my five-year-old is already in bed…. maybe you can try him next time. He yells ‘DID SO’ really loudly,
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — April 4, 2007″
You need your 5 year old to help you debate me? You can’t do it on your own?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:50 pm“#160 I fully agree. I tried to engage Captain Kirk because I thought he might be worthwhile to talk to. I was clearly wrong. He is a stinking righty troll that would get along well with Michael, Patrick and Tranny. I won’t make that mistake again.
Comment by JPark — April 4, 2007″
Want to try me park?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:52 pm“#228 You need to have an IQ over 80 to insult somebodies intelligence so just stop.
Comment by JPark — April 4, 2007″
Speaking of intelligence, you need to learn spelling and punctuation!
April 4th, 2007 at 11:54 pmSpeaking of intelligence, you need to learn spelling and punctuation!
Comment by michael
That’s rich, coming from the moron who can’t capitalize his own name, and over uses the “!” and “?” keys to an insane level.
Loser.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:57 pm#234 You might want to try your own advice, Gump. Nobody ever accused you of being precise in your posts.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:57 pm#233 Try you? I think not. I am straight.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:58 pmYou need your 5 year old to help you debate me? You can’t do it on your own?
Comment by michael — April 4, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
You are a waste of time, you never say anything but a variation of “DID NOT” or “DID TOO”. You type well for a preshooler (oh but you might wnat to caps that M in Michael). My son could help you with a few pointers, though – he’s graduated beyond that.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:00 amoops typos ‘wnat’ is a strange word, eh? And ‘preshooler’ etc – he he. Fingers are tired….should I let my son read his Harry Potter book to me, or should I spend more time reading Michael’s pointless drivel. ….hmmm…
April 5th, 2007 at 12:02 amTry you? I think not. I am straight.
Comment by JPark
Michael’s gay? I knew it.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:04 am….should I let my son read his Harry Potter book to me, or should I spend more time reading Michael’s pointless drivel. ….hmmm…
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Easy — Harry Potter. :)
April 5th, 2007 at 12:07 am#240 He did just proposition me so that is my guess. I have never been propositioned by such a disgusting one though.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:08 am#241 For giggles, let Mikey read Harry Potter to you. Actually, make that My Pet Goat, it is more his speed.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:09 am#240 He did just proposition me so that is my guess. I have never been propositioned by such a disgusting one though.
Comment by JPark
Maybe one day the Mighty Valiant Hag will hit on you — much worse.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:15 amAwww, where did Big Gay Michael go?
I wanted to welcome him into the liberal fold — and thank him for falling prey to The Liberal Agenda.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:20 am#244 Oh, god!!! That one has a huge Adam’s apple!!!!
April 5th, 2007 at 12:22 am#245 Shhh, little Mikey is just testing the waters. He isn’t ready to come out of the closet!!
April 5th, 2007 at 12:23 am#245 Shhh, little Mikey is just testing the waters. He isn’t ready to come out of the closet!!
Comment by JPark
Sometimes the little gay bird needs to be pushed out of the closet…er, nest.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:28 am#248 Come on, Zooey, don’t be so harsh. He hasn’t even learned how to speak in full sentences.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:32 am#248 Come on, Zooey, don’t be so harsh. He hasn’t even learned how to speak in full sentences.
Comment by JPark
It’s called tough lo…., er tough li….., er…. um, tough shit.
Yeah, that’s it. :D
Goodnight!
April 5th, 2007 at 12:35 am#250 I would feel sorry for him if he weren’t such a nasty little person. Night Zoo.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:43 ammichael; you’re an idiot. I have no doubt the gov’t has a dossier on me a mile thick, dating back from the Vietnam war. So go f*ck yourself.
April 5th, 2007 at 7:45 amSlick Willie Clinton made 139 recess appointments during his eight years. in office, 95 to full-time positions. Bush is up to 101 full time positions. What makes this different than the previous 195 appts between the 2 presidents?
April 5th, 2007 at 1:57 pm