Breaking: Iran to release British hostages.
By on Apr 4th, 2007 at 9:25 am
Breaking: Iran to release British hostages.
“President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday that Iran would free the 15 detained British sailors and marines as a gift to the British people. He pardoned the sailors and announced they would be released following a news conference at which he pinned a medal on the chest of the Iranian coast guard commander who intercepted the sailors and marines in the northern Gulf on March 23.”
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Isn’t it amazing what diplomacy and talking can accomplish?? Too bad the Chimp didn’t learn to use his brain instead of his mouth to deal with issues. Oh, wait, silly me. How can someone sans brain use a brain to fix problems? Well, at least the British government still knows how to operate in a civilized manner.
How many days until January 20, 2009?
April 4th, 2007 at 9:29 amThese 15 were released and not one bomb was dropped? No threats made? No posturing and no “axis of evil” rhetoric? No death and war? I hope the Bush White House is taking notes.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:30 amThat had to have broken some right-wingers’ hearts.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:30 amI’m confused: When did the prisoners become hostages? I mean, if they were arrested for trespassing in Iranian waters (whether true or false), doestn’t that make them “prisoners” and not “hostages”?
That aside, this news is going to make the right-wingers little hearts break right in half.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:35 amoh, what a generous man Ahmadinejad is for giving this gift! and what did the British people do to deserve it? I do hope they can live up to the
hono(u)r he’s bestowed upon them…
I have my doubts as to whether anyone was in Iranian waters… regardless, this was done to stand up to the “Evil West” and make Iran look strong in the eyes of other countries in the region… the sailors’ confessions were a joke… everyone does these stupid videos after they’re captured, including Americans…
April 4th, 2007 at 9:42 amThank goodness that this will end peacefully.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:44 am#4
April 4th, 2007 at 9:45 amThe article says “detained British sailors and marines”. The MSN and Bush administration like to call them “hostages” because it plays on emotions. I am pretty sure the Iranians called them prisoners. Depends on your point of view, I guess. Seeing as we will probably never know for sure where and in whose waters they were captured in.
Amazing what happens when you actually TALK to the enemy rather than put them in the corner or drop bombs on them, huh?
April 4th, 2007 at 9:46 amI agree that we shouldn’t be calling them hostages as they weren’t taken in that capacity. They were accused of violating a law – that would make them prisoners.
“hostage: a person given or held as security for the fulfillment of certain conditions or terms, promises, etc., by another.”
“prisoner: a person who is confined in prison or kept in custody, esp. as the result of legal process.”
http://www.dictionary.com
As for releasing them, well, it’s interesting. I think it shows that Iran is more willing to act humanely than Bush’s four-year illegal captivity and torture of people still held at Guantanamo Bay despite no charges set against them, repeat violations of teh Geneva Convention, and no habeus corpus for those held there. This act makes Bush look even worse to the International Community than he already does.
Impeachment is the least we can do.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:46 amI wonder if Nancy could give them a lift home. That would so spoil the Chimps Easter break.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:47 amDemocrats, your gullibility, regarding this issue, will leave a stain on your party. Let us not forget, Iran claimed that they would release the female soldier last week, but she’s still in their custody. Iran cannot be trusted! I could kick a liberal in the butt, and he wouldn’t know that it was me that committed this act.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:48 am#6
April 4th, 2007 at 9:48 amYeah, and not because of any effort from our administration. Look who is being the resonable ones, despite not knowing what happened to their captured soldiers. (Secret prison anyone)
Let’s trade W & Cheney as advance credits for future hostages.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:50 am#7 Oops, I meant Bush and prisoners and Iranian and hostages. My bad.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:50 amThe Turd Bloosom, The Chimp and KKKarl are throwing a tantrum right now…. boo-hoo! :(
April 4th, 2007 at 9:51 am“But Britain’s delicate diplomatic efforts were set back by U.S. President George W. Bush, who made a statement Saturday in which he characterized the imprisoned sailors as “hostages†— a phrase that Britain has been carefully avoiding to prevent the crisis from becoming a broader political or military conflict.”
As found in this article…
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/03/294/
Even the British are backing off of Bush and so when will we?
April 4th, 2007 at 9:51 amHow come noones mentioning the fact that we have 400 people in cuba being tortured with no talks about them ever being released. Iran doens’t just LOOK better then us. they ARE better then us.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:51 am3 ways to avoid a war:
1) engage someone who has a brain (Pelosi seems to have one)
2) Send them to Syria to negotiate on behalf of US/UK
3) Make sure that Iran knows that, although they are making temporary profits on the oredeal (increased oil prices), our president has lost his mind and is looking for any excuse to avoid more inquiries into his illegal activities
Mission Accomplished!
Now a message to “Dubya Bombs a Lot:” Stay on time out and do not screw this up!!!!
April 4th, 2007 at 9:53 amDemocrats, your gullibility,
Our gulliblity? ROTFL. You’re the guy who believes in invisible sky daddies who write books, virgin births, talking donkeys and a whole lot of other equal nonsense – and then have the audacity to call us gullible? LOL Good one Daryll – that’s hilarious.
regarding this issue, will leave a stain on your party.
Clearly, since Clinton and Edwards have received break records on donations for their campaigns. People wanna be sure another Republican can’t steal this election…
Let us not forget, Iran claimed that they would release the female soldier last week, but she’s still in their custody. Iran cannot be trusted!
A whole week! Versus 4 years that we’ve detained the people in Gitmo – who’ve not ever been charged with anything? Your hypocrisy is as obvious as ever!
I could kick a liberal in the butt, and he wouldn’t know that it was me that committed this act.
Comment by Daryll — April 4, 2007 @ 9:48 am
Now now, would sweet baby Jesus approve of you kicking pople in the butt? I think not…
Besides, Daryll – wrong thread. This one has nothing to do with homosexuality. You want the one below about Glenn Beck bashing lesbians…
April 4th, 2007 at 9:54 amEven the British are backing off of Bush and so when will we?
Comment by Saywho — April 4, 2007 @ 9:51 am
By the lack of action in Congress, I’d say January 20, 2009… But hopefully, the International Courts will be waiting for him and try him accordingly where there will be no one to pardon him…
April 4th, 2007 at 9:58 amHere is a scenario I like. Pelosi goes to Syria and negotiates well. People in US and around the world start to put a little more support in her and and Dems. More smart moves like this keep coming and makes it a whole lot easier for the Dem to get backing to impeachment of both Chimpy and Lil Dick. Then, smoothly, a competent leader takes over the reins just in time to ensure a fair election in 08.
Well, I can always dream, right?
April 4th, 2007 at 9:58 amThat shows that diplomacy can get better results than ‘gun boat’ policy’,and war mongering.
I remember when Syria released the US pilot that was captured when Jesse Jackson went to Damascus and came back with him….
Some war mongers might not like this…,but what is the alternative?!!…bomb Iran…!!! and what that will get you..? erupting the whole Middle east like a volcano…
It is good that both sides worked together to release captured soldiers.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:00 amTears in Wingnuttia over this. If only Brave Sir Tony had “crushed” and “bombed” and “wiped-out” Iran!
Why Brave Sir Tony did you end this with a peaceful negotiation?
Boo—-hoooohooo!
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 10:03 amAnd that is the most important point.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:06 amThe good news, of course, is that the British soldiers are going to be released unharmed, and the Iranian soldiers who kidnapped them are to be given medals. But to the Iranians, the hostages were never the point. They were just pawns in a game that the Iranians won and the British failed miserably. But if nothing else, this whole incident blew the cover off of something that many on the right already knew – that the Europeans have no stomach for fighting evil, but would rather negotiate with it, and appease it.
How humiliating it must be for Britain to have to accept such a “gift†from a tyrannical dictator not because the dictator was scared of being attacked militarily for such a hostile act, but because the dictator wanted to show the world he could get away with it.
And if nothing else, this incident has shown Iran, and the rest of terrorists in the world that the West has no stomach for a fight, and is willing to put them on an equal level when it comes to negotiations and respect.
Instead of condemning the act, condemning the government, condemning the ideology behind the government, and telling them to release the hostages “or elseâ€, what did the Brits do?
They went to the UN.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:07 amunbelievable,
I’d like to apologize for being a little nasty yesterday. Wasn’t having the best day.
Re. the release of the prisoners — great news! And this “winger” isn’t upset that we didn’t get to go in guns blazing. I’d always prefer to settle things peacefully if possible.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:08 amThis proves the British are sick of war and death, too.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:09 amComment by Patrick1inch — April 4, 2007 @ 10:07 am
April 4th, 2007 at 10:11 amYou really need to stop cutting and pasting, and come up with your own ideas, thoughts, and comments.
Just a suggestion (makes you look less like a verbal robot aka dittohead)
unbelievable: first off, good morning to you!
second:Talking Donkeys? Are the righties celebrating a newfound book of the Bible? Is it the Book of Shreck?
*snicker*
please enlighten me of said talking donkeys.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:12 amthanks :)
The good news, of course, is that the British soldiers are going to be released unharmed, and the Iranian soldiers who kidnapped them are to be given medals. But to the Iranians, the hostages were never the point. They were just pawns in a game that the Iranians won and the British failed miserably. But if nothing else, this whole incident blew the cover off of something that many on the right already knew – that the Europeans have no stomach for fighting evil, but would rather negotiate with it, and appease it.
How humiliating it must be for Britain to have to accept such a “gift†from a tyrannical dictator not because the dictator was scared of being attacked militarily for such a hostile act, but because the dictator wanted to show the world he could get away with it.
And if nothing else, this incident has shown Iran, and the rest of terrorists in the world that the West has no stomach for a fight, and is willing to put them on an equal level when it comes to negotiations and respect.
Instead of condemning the act, condemning the government, condemning the ideology behind the government, and telling them to release the hostages “or elseâ€, what did the Brits do?
They went to the UN.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 4, 2007 @ 10:07 am
Patrick, I completely agree with your comment. Libs have no spine, as well.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:14 amThere goes Bush’s rationale for starting the war.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:14 amLibs have no spine, as well.
Comment by Daryll
That’s what the Zealots said about Jesus.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:18 amwait a minute.. patrick1-are you so blown away by this act of sheer unadulterated stupidity on the part of your Media mouthbreathers that you have to just repost the same post? you might as well leave now..
hilarious! he’s got nothing….
April 4th, 2007 at 10:18 amIt is called pucker power. You know, I bend over and you kiss my ass. Same old bootlicking liberals.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:19 amtalking donkeys? are we talking about Nestor the Long-eared Donkey? he was real, damnit!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:20 amI’d like to apologize for being a little nasty yesterday. Wasn’t having the best day.
No problem – we all have bad days – even me :). I hope we can start over and from here forward have respectful discussions that focus on solutions to the many problems we face as a nation.
Re. the release of the prisoners — great news! And this “winger†isn’t upset that we didn’t get to go in guns blazing. I’d always prefer to settle things peacefully if possible.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — April 4, 2007 @ 10:08 am
I hope you’ll find and support the people in your party who share your viewpoint. As an Independent, I like when there is a representation of both parties in our elected offices so that we are governering toward moderation… We’ve seen all too well what happens when there is no accountability.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:23 amOne should read the UK Guardian’s Jonathan Freedland’s essay: The standoff with Iran over 15 British captured sailors has revealed much about both countries – and the wider conflict
What’s disheartening is how many are still eager to fight Iran over the hostage crisis of nearly 30 years ago. Honestly, that’s a long time to hold a grudge.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:24 amre: #1
657 days. Yikes, that long. Grr, argh.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:26 amAny chance Israel will learn from this? mmmm…
April 4th, 2007 at 10:27 amI hope we can start over and from here forward have respectful discussions that focus on solutions to the many problems we face as a nation.
Comment by unbelievable
Deal.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:29 amwhiteyfresh:
Balaam’s ass
April 4th, 2007 at 10:29 amhttp://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1997/6/976serp.html
please enlighten me of said talking donkeys.
thanks :)
Comment by whiteyfresh — April 4, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Good morning to you too!
Here it is, Book of Shrek :):
http://www.deistnet.com/bizverse.htm
Talking Donkey
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 am[Numbers 22:28-30] “And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times? And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee. And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? And he said, Nay.”
In Bush’s brain: Uh oh, I better bomb them I-rain-ee-ans before they let them troops go.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:33 amNow we get to see the White House spin that will try to shape Ahmadinejad as more screechy and unhinged as president Bush.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:34 amAny chance Israel will learn from this? mmmm…
Comment by Juan C — April 4, 2007 @ 10:27 am
The “Chosen People”? I wouldn’t hold my breath…
It’s been the culture of the Middle East, due to such limited natural resources, to be violent with their neighbors – for the last 5,000 years. I think the onlything that would change that is if Allah replanted the forests and dug some fresh water lakes…
April 4th, 2007 at 10:36 amDeal.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — April 4, 2007 @ 10:29 am
Cool
April 4th, 2007 at 10:38 amSo, when are we going to release the hostages we are holding. Those hostages are the diplomats from Iran that we kidnapped over a month ago. I know we have released one of them. When are we going to release the rest? This whole incident should be embarrassing to the US. The Iranians arrested people they say were trespassing in their territorial waters, they treated them well (i.e. they didn’t torture them) and they are releasing them after diplomatic talks. I would be willing to bet the farm that one reason why we are not releasing the Iranian diplomats is that we are too busy torturing them. Then we can’t release them because they will tell the world how badly they were treated by the US military.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:38 amJesus Christ, I can’t beleive what I’m reading here. Maybe you guys should form an exploritory committee for your hero Ahmadinajad to run for president in ‘08.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:39 amIsrael already knows you don’t appease terrorists, the British have forgotten that and of course will get more terror.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:40 amI think the onlything that would change that is if Allah replanted the forests and dug some fresh water lakes…
Comment by unbelievable
Maybe if Israel hadnt supported Hezbollah and Hamas at the beginning.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:44 am“And if nothing else, this incident has shown Iran, and the rest of terrorists in the world that the West has no stomach for a fight, and is willing to put them on an equal level when it comes to negotiations and respect.”
How right you are Patrick1. The British should have immediately launched a nuclear weapon on Iran to wipe out millions of people just so they could show that they are the “top dog”. Shame on the British for negotiating. What a bunch of wuss’s they are. It’s so embarrassing to find out that negotiating actually works. How will they ever live it down.
The only good thing about this whole situation is that it was the British who were arrested when they ventured into Iranian waters (the GPS recovered with the soldiers showed they WERE in Iranian waters). If they had arrested US soldiers, I’m sure we would have launched World War III by now.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:46 ameisenreich: what a great link! thank you so much. I recommend everyone check it out! I like how Barker catches Kaiser when the talking cat warns him(Barker) about the tuna salad..
unbelievable: thanks a lot! I read the other stories, personally, this one:God Seen As Four-Faced Wheel-Shaped Flying Creature
April 4th, 2007 at 10:47 am[Ezekiel 1:15-20]seems like they are describing UFO’s…
Daryll and Patrick:
It must be easy and comfortable to live in a world where everything is so clearly defined:
Evil vs. Good
Right vs. Wrong
Us vs. Them
The problem is, the world isn’t like that, guys. And to continue to apply your black and white views in a world comprised of an infinite number of shades of grey will be your downfall.
Inflexible countries, societies, religions, and business are doomed to stagnate and fail. Unless you evolve and adapt to changing situations, you will become irrelevant. It’s already happening to the US. Until people like yourselves realize that, it’s going to continue.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:49 amNancy going to Syria had something to do with this.
Atleast it’s going to look that way.
BLESSED ARE THE PEACE MAKERS
April 4th, 2007 at 10:50 amWell Bush and Blair cannot use British hostages as an excuse to attack Iran before Easter sunday.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:53 amunbelievable: thanks a lot! I read the other stories, personally, this one:God Seen As Four-Faced Wheel-Shaped Flying Creature
[Ezekiel 1:15-20]seems like they are describing UFO’s…
Comment by whiteyfresh — April 4, 2007 @ 10:47 am
No problem… Gregor Samsa originally gave me the link. Some funny stuff in that book. It’s why American Atheists encourages people to read the bible from cover to cover… To see what the religion is really about…. :)
April 4th, 2007 at 10:57 amIt’s why American Atheists encourages people to read the bible from cover to cover… To see what the religion is really about…. :)
Comment by unbelievable — April 4, 2007 @ 10:57 am
Naaaaa… they’d much rather pick and choose certain phrases to support their predispositions and ignore and denounce other phrases that contradict their entrenched viewpoint.
They feel much safer that way. Oh, and superior. They feel superior, too.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:01 amPress is reporting that Rep. Nancy Pelosi may have negotiated the release of the 15 British sailors and marines. If she did, then she is a hero and Bush-Blair are dummies. She also may have stopped Bush’s plan to attack Iran, so she prevented WWIII.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:11 amVICTOR DAVIS HANSON: “What is disturbing about the Iranian piracy is that it establishes a warning of what we can come to expect when Iran is nuclear, and how organizations like the UN, the EU, and NATO will react. If a few Iranian terrorists in boats can paralyze an entire nation and the above agencies, think what a half-dozen Iranian nukes will do. This was the hour of Europe to step forward and show the world what it can do with sanctions, embargoes, and boycotts, and how such soft power is as effective as gunboats—and it is passing.”
“Soft power” might work, but not when the people wielding it are even softer
April 4th, 2007 at 11:12 amI think the question needs to be asked why did the Iranians do this? What was their point?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:13 amThis isn’t going to be easy on Hannity and rush. Still I’m sure they will spin it somehow
April 4th, 2007 at 11:13 amNaaaaa… they’d much rather pick and choose certain phrases to support their predispositions and ignore and denounce other phrases that contradict their entrenched viewpoint.
See any of Daryll’s posts for proof :)
They feel much safer that way. Oh, and superior. They feel superior, too.
Comment by bobcat_grad — April 4, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Doesn’t seem to be working so well… :)
April 4th, 2007 at 11:15 amdidn’t the fact that we released the Iranian intelligence we captured a month or so ago have something to do with this?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:20 amAmazing what happens when you actually TALK to the enemy rather than put them in the corner or drop bombs on them, huh?
ESPECIALLY after they know you have the guts to actually drop bombs on ‘em, eh.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:26 amAnd what of the 5 Iranian diplomats the U.S. took hostage last January? Has there been any word of their release?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:37 am1) How do we know that the British “TALKed” to the Iranians?
2) If there was “TALKing”, then what if anything did the British concede to the Iranians in return for the soldiers.
3) If the Iranians gained concessions, whats to stop them from doing something more provocative in order to “TALK” again and gain more concessions?
Kidnapping people and ransoning them is not a form of peacemaking just because noone gets killed in the end. Its like syaing that hitting yourself repeatedly in the head with a hammer is a pleasurable experience because it feels so good to stop.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:43 amKidnapping people and ransoning them is not a form of peacemaking just because noone gets killed in the end.
Comment by Jimmy the Dhimmi
Considering the 2 or 3 carriers that US has on Iranian´s doorstep and the Brits sailors were really far from England, I would justify Iran´s uptightness.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:49 am…hitting yourself repeatedly in the head with a hammer is a pleasurable experience…
Comment by Jimmy the Dhimmi
Then maybe you should cease from that activity.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:51 amDaryll,
You sound more regular today, you are off the script.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:11 pmDid the talking Donkey have Eddie Murphy’s voice?
April 4th, 2007 at 12:12 pmThis is good news indeed. Too bad for the warmongers itching to attack Iran
I could kick a liberal in the butt, and he wouldn’t know that it was me that committed this act.
Comment by Daryll
Actually if you tried to kick me, you might never walk on that foot again, fool.
Don’t assume all liberals would be pacifists when personally, physically attacked. Some of might turn you every way but loose.
Also once again you show your hypocricy with your “selective” christianity. what a fool you are.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:14 pmIts like syaing that hitting yourself repeatedly in the head with a hammer is a pleasurable experience because it feels so good to stop.
Comment by Jimmy the Dhimmi
Reading your post, I could easily assume you have much experience from the hammer to head thing.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThis will surely annoy President Pissypants. There he was, already dreaming of his next excellent adventure in Iran… What a letdown!
April 4th, 2007 at 12:36 pmWhy do we need to side with the Jew-hating, misogynist, homosexual-stoning, apocalyptic death-cult regime when they openly flaunt their desire to destroy everything liberals hold dear? Is it just because of the superficial “David vs Goliath” paradigm that manifests itself on TV when you compare the huge military capability of the US vs the rag-tag, kaffiya wearing “revolutionaries”?
Man, we are up to our necks with people who want to cut our heads off.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:46 pmAhmadinejad 1, Chimpy’s Fig-leaf 0
Odious as the tv pictures were, Ahmadinejad quit while he was ahead at home and avoids further trouble abroad. Also those 5 Iranians held by the US came back into focus – where are they, Chimpy?
April 4th, 2007 at 12:52 pmMan, we are up to our necks with people who want to cut our heads off.
Comment by Jimmy the Dhimmi
I dont agree with fundamentalists…anyone.
That means, I dont agree with Iran´s policy or Israel´s or US´s or Saudi´s. You know, fundamentalist to the core. But, judging from history, Israel has invaded and killed more people than Iran.
Furthermore, US has killed more people than Iran, US has invaded more countries than Iran, US has more nukes than Iran, US has used more nukes than Iran, US has made more black ops than Iran, US has deposed more democratic elected regimes than Iran. US has occupied more countries than Iran.
I guess you will see my logic.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:55 pmWhat – is this some late April Fools joke? Don’t we all know talking doesn’t solve anything and we are supposed to use military action to resolve disputes?
I wonder if Dubya is going to get some Americans captured so he can invade Iran.
April 4th, 2007 at 1:59 pmWhy do we need to side with the Jew-hating, misogynist, homosexual-stoning, apocalyptic death-cult regime
April 4th, 2007 at 2:14 pmComment by Jimmy the Dhimmilit bulb — April 4, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
Ummmmm, us liberals, and the majority of Americans, don’t side with our current administration
I’m just sayin….
You are talking about hat huge Jewish army from outer space that invaded the Ottoman empire in 1917, right? Or are you refering to the Canaanites?
Next you are going to say the United states killed more people than Al-Queda right? You should sign up. They are running out of recruits in Anbar – No? what are you a chickenhawk?
Not even US constitutional fundamentalists, or enlightenment fundamentalists, or social equality fundamentalists…ect, I can see that.
Yup. Its the irreducable postulate of marxist folklore – that all conflicts in the world are a result of social class divisions and income inequality. Moral relativism, economic absolutism. Violent human behavior is a result of frustrations caused by autonomic chemical reactions in the brain. Free will, good vs. evil, and moral choice are mere superstitions long proven false by science. I see your logic, but its still full of shit.
April 4th, 2007 at 2:16 pmGuess this will send Bipolar Dubya into a real tailspin now. He was going manic and licking his war profiteering chops while they were being held…posturing as though it was americans being held and putting his idiotic two cents in…..now he’ll be swinging low into depression because his new war game will never get off the ground.
Time for some meds, VI!
April 4th, 2007 at 2:31 pmHmmmm, so what do you suppose is the difference between Tony Blair and Jimmy Carter? Jimmy must HATE seeing Lybia, Iran and North Korea capitulating to western powers, when laughed at him for 400+ days, running out the clock on his presidency.
April 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pmHmmmm, so what do you suppose is the difference between Tony Blair and Jimmy Carter?
Tony Blair is an unpopular leader who isn’t supported by Parliament or the people and is trying to save face for engaging in an illegal war against a defenseless Iraq.
Jimmy Carter is a winner of the Pulitzer PEACE prize.
Jimmy must HATE seeing Lybia, Iran and North Korea capitulating to western powers, when laughed at him for 400+ days, running out the clock on his presidency.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — April 4, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Nope. He’s a much bigger person than you are. It’s why you would even suggest such an obsurd thing in the first place.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:33 pm#81 Are you seriously considering Libya a victory, Hendler?
April 4th, 2007 at 5:48 pmaww. Poor Baath party. Poor Sadaam. It turns out he ran out of those chemical weapons he used to kill his own people after all. Not Fair!
April 4th, 2007 at 5:55 pmIt turns out he ran out of those chemical weapons he used to kill his own people after all. Not Fair!
Comment by Noodles — April 4, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
If it was so unfair, then why has it taken you guys 15 years to denounce his attacks? Why didn’t you cut our funding to him then? Hmmmm?
Besides, like he was going to attack America with mustard gas? How freaking paranoid must you be to believe that?
April 4th, 2007 at 6:20 pmBush in a private moment:
“Damn, there goes my excuse for attacking Iran. Oh wait a minute, I’m King so it doesn’t matter anyway. Bombs away, Tehran! Isn’t it fun killing lots and lots of people. Wheeeee………..”
April 4th, 2007 at 7:15 pmI see your logic, but its still full of shit.
Comment by Jimmy the Dhimmi
Call it what you want. It is a fact. You cant rebutt any of my points. And you, my little propagandized friend will fall, like others did.
April 4th, 2007 at 7:51 pmOh, but Im a Marxist…yeah, right…Oh, but economic absolutist…blah,blah, blah…I point facts, you bring rethoric. Way to go. Cheers.
Tony “Ratface” Blair MAY HAVE SPOKEN PRIVATELY TO Ahmadinejad BEHIND THE SCENES AND EITHER:
April 4th, 2007 at 8:42 pm1)TOLD Iran TO RELEASE THE HOSTAGES IMMEDIATELY OR FACE DIRE CONSEQUENCES A LA Baroness Margaret Thatcher DURING THE FALKLANDS WAR
2)ASSURED Iran THAT THE U.K. WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE U.S., ESPECIALLY Monkey Boy CHIMPya IN ANY OF ITS Iranian MANUEVERS
3)PROMISED Iran HELP IN DEVELOPING PEACEFUL USE OF ITS NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES TO RUN FUEL ALTERNATIVES
4)GAVE Ahmadinejad AND THE RABID ayatollahs/mullahs A REALLY BODACIOUS BLOW-JOB
PERSONALLY I THINK #4 IS THE MORE PROBABLE REASON–Ahmadinejad WAS SMILING FROM EAR TO EAR WHEN HE SAID THAT THE HOSTAGES WERE TO BE RELEASED!!!!!
Hmm, apparently, supporting a regressive religious sect bent on world-domination is now a progressive ideal. Sure, the first person the imams who run Iran would round and kill would be — well, the vast majority of people posting here (self-styled intellectuals seldom do well in Iran), but at least he’s not Bush, right? I, at this point, firmly believe the left would support a Hitler clone if he opposed Bush.
Truly astonishing.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:21 pm…support a Hitler clone if he opposed Bush.
Comment by MikeSC
Bush is a Hitler clone.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:14 amYou are all Eloi, planting flowers for the Morlocks – convinced that once the Morlocks come into the light and see the progressive utopia you have constructed, they will stop eating you.
April 5th, 2007 at 7:36 am