Right Wing Smears Pelosi As ‘Subservient’ For Wearing Scarf - What About Laura Bush?
Right Wing Smears Pelosi As ‘Subservient’ For Wearing Scarf - What About Laura Bush?
Yesterday, right-wing Internet gossip Matt Drudge posted a photo of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) wearing a headscarf while visiting the tomb of John the Baptist inside the Umayyad mosque in Damascus.
As Mahablog points out, the right-wing is now seething:
HotAir: “The campaign commercial practically writes itself. Ah well. A woman must know her place when entering a mosque. … It pains the left too, I’m sure, to see the most powerful woman in America having to yield, however slightly, to a misogynistic culture’s expectations, but they can’t vent their anger at the people responsible so they’ll vent it at Charles or me or whomever instead.”
Instapundit: FEMINIST IN AMERICA, subservient in Syria.
The New Editor: “This picture disgusts me. What message is Nancy Pelosi trying to send? Are women equal to men, or not? Why is modesty foisted only upon women?”
Little Green Footballs: “Pelosi in a Hijab. The modern Democratic leadership. How … quaint.”
Apparently they never saw Laura Bush when she visited al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem:
More photos at Mahablog.
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Right Wing Double Standards –> the only “standards” that ultra-radical right-winger neo-cons have.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:57 amDifference Mrs. Bush doesn’t hold elective office, while Mrs. Pelosi does.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:58 amI propose it should be against the law to accuse the other of what you yourself have done. It’s the right thing to do.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:59 amHypocrisy runs in the veins of every Republican.
April 4th, 2007 at 9:59 amIs Laura Bush third in line to the Presidency? Is she visiting and allie or an enemy? Questions Pelosi and her apologists may want to ask.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:00 amOutstanding!!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:00 amGOP apologists are so pathetic.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:00 amDidn’t she also wear this visiting the Pope in Rome?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:03 am#2, #5: That’s a distinction, not a difference. Both women were representatives of the U.S. and respected the local culture. That’s called diplomacy, and republicans used to be good at it. It’s like taking off your shoes when you enter a Japanese house.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:03 amOMG Darth Bush female version.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:04 amStings doesn’t it Patrick. Great job in pointing out the double standard.
Patrick, you still outraged at all the republicans that have gone to Syria recently? Haven’t seen any posts showing that part of your disgust.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:04 amThe right-wings’ white-knuckled, foaming-at-the-mouth rage at the MANDATE the dems VICTORIOUSLY won in 2006 is nothing short of amusing. They will stay on the fringe and simmer in boiling jealous rage for decades to come, guaranteed.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:05 am“Is Laura Bush third in line to the Presidency? Is she visiting and allie or an enemy? Questions Pelosi and her apologists may want to ask.”
what answers would charles krauthammer’s martian thought experiment yield?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:06 amDifference Mrs. Bush doesn’t hold elective office, while Mrs. Pelosi does.
Comment by Alex — April 4, 2007 @ 9:58 am
Nonsense - as the First Lady, Laura Bush is an official by default.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:06 amPatrick1:
shouldn’t you be worried more about that child porn on your computer versus what someone else is doing to respect traditions of other nations?
You are what terrorists hate, not our freedoms, our ignorant racist f-ckheads.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:06 amIncredible hypocrisy from the right.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:06 amThe wearing of a head scarf is a sign of respect on the part of Western women - certainly appropriate for a diplomatic mission.
Apparently the right is so accustomed to Stepford wife, Laura, like all good wives who know their place, that they never even notice what she is wearing.
God, these people make me sick.
BWAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHA!!!
It’s almost as if the right has absolutely no idea that when you are in front of a camera, a record of what happened or what you said is made..
ridiculous…
April 4th, 2007 at 10:07 amOh yes…God forbid Pelosi actually respect the traditions of the country she is visiting. That’s not the American Way â„¢!
</snark>
April 4th, 2007 at 10:07 amSpeaker Pelosi was doing what she should have done, showing respect to the customs of the host.
I just thought the pattern on her scarf/hijab was a little too “busy”.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:08 amI guess nobody cares about the complete disrespect of women here. Who cares if Laura Bush, who is not an elected official did the same thing. Pelosi has more political power than any woman in America and she has to turn into a lesser person than any man to go into a mosque? People that champion gender equality should be outraged.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:08 amThis is friggin’ hilarioius.
The right has nothing!
Absolutely nothing (as evident by Patrick1inch and Alexis’ posts), so they have to come up with this Bull$hit
Great catch, Nico!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:08 amWhen I was invited to attend the bar mitzvah of a friend’s son, I was happy to don a yarmulke when I entered the synogogue. It seemed like the respectful thing to. I’ll bet that Condi Rice would don a headscarf when entering a mosque.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:09 amI suppose the neocons would be much happier of Pelosi were to instead get drunk at an international assembly, curse to Prime Minister Blair with her mouth full of food, and then try to give a neck massage to Chancellor Merkel?
Hypocrisy knows no shame…
April 4th, 2007 at 10:09 amHow about a few photos of women visiting the Pope?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:09 amMy wife does research in an Islamic African country. She will wear head coverings when the situation calls for it as both a sign of respect to the people she is working with and as a practical matter. It’s not about being subservent, it about getting the job done. Just as a man can’t go topless to a diplomatic negotiation and be taken seriously, a woman in this culture would not be taken seriously without the head cover. Speaker Pelosi is clearly more interested in results than perception.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:10 amIt’s a shame that people do not remember respect. Years ago, in the catholic and orthodox churches, women had to cover their heads.
The reason Pelosi wore the scarf is to show respect. After all she is trying to negotiate with the Syrians. You try not to offend when you want others to capitulate.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:11 amThe Republicans are lucky they didn’t send a female Republican to Syria. It would have galled them to have a Republican female with headscarf in a picture.
With there only being 16 women senators (11 Dems, 5 Reps) it would be hard for the Republicans to find one that is willing to step outside the safe confines of the US border. Leave that up to the Democrat House women.
Also, in the House, there are 71 women. 50 Democrats to 21 Republicans.
I guess that Republicans only like their women in a subservient role and not in the halls of Congress making decisions better left up to men. (Tongue in cheek)
April 4th, 2007 at 10:12 amWhich is a bigger outrage–Pelosi’s scarf or 3,285 dead America soldiers? Let the voters decide in 2008.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:12 amPeople that champion gender equality should be outraged.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:08 am
Pure nonsense. There is a vast difference between choosing to do something (respect a culture) and being forced to do something (be subservient).
As an advocate for female equality - the fact that she was accepted by their culture as an American Diplomat - instead of being ignored or harassed is a sign that they respected her culture (women are equal to men), therefore her putting a scarf on her head to return the respect is a sign of PROGRESS…
April 4th, 2007 at 10:13 amLet’s see if there is the same outrage when neocon male politician is ever “caught” wearing a yarmulke in a Jewish synogogue.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:13 amIf Nancy Pelosi hadn’t worn the head scarf, the neocons would be attacking her for that… Saying that she is only showing the Syrians that woman aren’t respectful and therefore deserve subservience…
It’s a no win situation with them. They really have sunk to such lows that if this is all they have - they are so over….
April 4th, 2007 at 10:15 amMen take off their shoes in a mosque…….
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 10:15 am16 - The wearing of a head scarf is a sign of respect on the part of Western women - certainly appropriate for a diplomatic mission.
And we should add that the men take their shoes off as a sign of respect. Is that subservient wing-nuts? Who can forget the picture of Wolfowitz visiting a mosque in Turkey with holes in his socks!!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:16 am“Let’s see if there is the same outrage when neocon male politician is ever “caught†wearing a yarmulke in a Jewish synogogue.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — April 4, 2007″
In the words of Emeril Lagasse….BAM!
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 10:16 amshe has to turn into a lesser person than any man to go into a mosque? People that champion gender equality should be outraged.
Comment by rancidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:08 am
Umm no. she has to respect the culture she is visiting, and follow their customs.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:16 amPeople that can actually think before they post should be outraged at having to read your non sensical ideas.
Didn’t Ms. Rice wear a headscarf recently? And I believe Karen Hughes wore one as well. Hell, I bet Elizabeht Dole put one on if she ever went over to the middle east.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:17 amPure nonsense. There is a vast difference between choosing to do something (respect a culture) and being forced to do something (be subservient).
As an advocate for female equality - the fact that she was accepted by their culture as an American Diplomat - instead of being ignored or harassed is a sign that they respected her culture (women are equal to men), therefore her putting a scarf on her head to return the respect is a sign of PROGRESS…
You know very well that in Syria, women are not equal to men. Instead of looking at it as a sign of respect to their culture, people should look at it as a sign of disrespect to all women.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:17 amPatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) sez:
Yes. Let’s see.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:17 amonce a hypocrite, always a hypocrite… it’s only wrong when lefties do it!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:17 amAlmost all of the communications media has been taken over by America’s fascistic right wing. They own it. It is silly to analyze their content piece by piece when the whole picture is one equivalent to Hitler’s propaganda machinery of the 1930’s. Use your energy and space to analyze the media and how it has been used to sway American opinion. Bit by bit won’t do it. This is beginning to look like a gossip column or a supermarket tabloid.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:19 amLet’s see if there is the same outrage when neocon male politician is ever “caught†wearing a yarmulke in a Jewish synogogue
Very different, men are not considered to be less than women in the Jewish religion. You are not comparing apples to apples here.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:19 amEven if Laura Bush hadnt worn a scarf and Pelosi had, what? When you have left no arguments, you head to the gossip show.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:19 am“Who cares if Laura Bush, who is not an elected official did the same thing.”
that pretty sums it, doesn’t it.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:21 amhypocrites
April 4th, 2007 at 10:21 amtmm:DAAAAMMN. You just dusted off your pimp hand and let it fly!!!!
unbelievable: first off, good morning to you!
second:Talking Donkeys? Are the righties celebrating a newfound book of the Bible? Is it the Book of Shreck?
*snicker*
please enlighten me of said talking donkeys.
thanks :)
I KNOW I just busted on p1 for cutting and pasting, but I reaally wanna know about the talking donkeys….
April 4th, 2007 at 10:22 amYou know very well that in Syria, women are not equal to men. Instead of looking at it as a sign of respect to their culture, people should look at it as a sign of disrespect to all women.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:23 amComment by rancidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:17 am
Yeah! and I bet, if she were to visit certain areas of Asia, she’d have to remove her shoes before entering a house, and sit on the floor while eating!
What the hell is she doing respecting other’s cultures?
The neocons are running out of boogey men to trot out to scare America–looks like another round of rigorous sniffing of grandma’s shoes and socks at the airports this summer in our “war on terror.”
April 4th, 2007 at 10:25 amYeah! and I bet, if she were to visit certain areas of Asia, she’d have to remove her shoes before entering a house, and sit on the floor while eating!
What the hell is she doing respecting other’s cultures?
Again not the same thing. EVERYBODY in Asia would have to take off their shoes before entering a house. It is not about making women less than men, like it is in this case.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:26 amTake it easy on the wingers. They’ve watched their whole thing go down the toilet in just six short years. Their nerves are in tatters; their righteous indignation centers are shorting out. They’re even nuttier than they usually are.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:26 amWhat the hell is she doing respecting other’s cultures?
Who cares if respecting said culture demeans an entire gender right?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:27 amI’m not Jewish, but I wore a yarmulka when I was in a temple for a bat mitzvah. Does that mean I’m officially a member of AIPAC now? Geez, I had no idea.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:28 amNancy Pelosi is respecting the traditions of the country she is visiting. So, what is wrong with that? Our women in the military in Saudi Arabia don’t drive cars in deference to the customs there. What does the right wing have to say about that? These right wing whack jobs are getting hysterical. It’s actually pretty funny to watch.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:30 amThese wingnuts expect her to wear a red whit and blue bikini like the budwieser girls to show how non-’subservient’ she is.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 amSpeaking of hypocracy.
What is Pelosi doing taking spring break in Syria and meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad? Has she forgotten about the Syria Accountability Act? That law, which Pelosi and 398 other House Members voted for on October 15, 2003, stated that it is the policy of the United States that:
(9) the United States will not provide any assistance to Syria and will oppose multilateral assistance for Syria until Syria ends all support for terrorism, withdraws its armed forces from Lebanon, and halts the development and deployment of weapons of mass destruction and medium- and long-range surface-to-surface ballistic missiles.
Did Pelosi forget what she said about the Syria Accountability Act before voting for it?:
Syria’s assistance to terrorist organizations is well known, and the State Department continues to list Syria as a state sponsor of terrorism, in violation of resolutions on that issue by the United Nations Security Council. The Bekaa Valley in Lebanon, which Syria controls, provides a haven and the site of training facilities for Hezbollah, Hamas, and other terrorist groups. These activities could not occur without the assent of the Syrian government.
The people of Israel and the cause of peace in the Middle East have been the traditional targets of the groups helped by Syria, but today’s attack on the U.S. convoy in Gaza is a reminder that the United States, and our interests around the world, are foremost on terrorist target lists. Dealing with the problem of terrorism must be our chief priority.
One of the lessons learned thus far in the war on terrorism is that there can be no success without disrupting the support networks on which terrorists rely. Rhetoric has thus far not been effective in encouraging the Syrian government to cease its assistance to terrorists, and to remove its forces from Lebanon.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 amYou are not comparing apples to apples here.
Comment by rabidbunny
So what? The outrage over Pelosi is not comparing reality to reality, either.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 amShe has something the right just doesn’t have. Besides her attractive appearance she is also a diplomat with a desire to see another point of view.
This demeanor alone scares the right to death.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 amI only wore a head scarf because I had a “hair-don’t” that day, not because I respected the customs of the country I was visiting. Nancy always looks fabulous so I doubt that bad hair could have been the reason she wore one.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:31 amAgain not the same thing.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:32 amComment by rancidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:26 am
so you’re telling me she should have disrespected the law regarding apparel before entering a holy site?
By your thinking, just because, here in the US, we have laws forbidding nudity on a beach, if Europeans come over here to sunbathe, they can remove their tops because it is their cultural right?
Doesn’t fly rancid bunny. Does not fly!
One follows religious custom out of respect. Not subservience. Even the Queen has removed her shoes when visiting certain sacred shrines. And I’ve put on a yarmulke when visiting a synagogue.
I suppose this ranting just reveals the “good manners” of people who agree with Ann Coulter’s prescription to kill all Muslim rulers and convert their people to Christianity.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:32 amLet’s not be confusing the Reich wing with facts. Too many of them and they will lose all their wind and what fun would that be!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:32 am“Is Laura Bush third in line to the Presidency? Is she visiting and allie or an enemy? Questions Pelosi and her apologists may want to ask.”
What difference does that make. When Bush visits a foreign country, he follows the customs of that country as a sign of respect. But, then, respect is something that is a foreign concept to these Republic neocons.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:33 amYay! The right is embracing feminism! They should favor the revival of the Equal Rights Amendment, with extraterritorial reach to boot.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:34 amPatrick1inch
April 4th, 2007 at 10:34 amI’ll ask you nicely one more time.
Instead of cutting and pasting, please provide a link, then post your own thoughts and ideas.
I know it’ll take some time, but free thinking will make you mentally stronger.
I’m sure rabidbunny and his fellow rodents are really outraged at the demeaning of women, rather than trying to score points against a Democrat, a woman at that. I’m sure they support U.S. policies which are equality based.
/sarc off
April 4th, 2007 at 10:35 amThe cowards at redstate banned me after I pointed this out to them last night.
That and telling them that drudge rules their world
April 4th, 2007 at 10:35 amThe gentleman next to Mrs. Bush with the red tie–anyone know who he is? An official or security?
He looks a lot like the gentleman in combat gear next to Sen. McCain in Baghdad the other day:
http://www.dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2007/ 4/ 4/ 95855/ 67277
April 4th, 2007 at 10:35 amAnother point of view? Laughable..the Syrian point of view is we either cut off your head or blow you up, which of those is the United States supposed to accept?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:36 amhttp://www7.ttvnol.com/ uploaded2/ My2Cents/ capt.c4d87161a9dc49dba4ecd19fcb8a583c.vietnam_bush_apec_ny107.jpg
April 4th, 2007 at 10:36 amWhat the hell is she doing respecting other’s cultures?
Who cares if respecting said culture demeans an entire gender right?
Comment by rabidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:27 am
Why does Bush and his Cabal talk to Sudia Arabia? They are the same as Syria - woman are second best citizens. Don’t they care about holding hands and kissing a culture that demeans an entire gender?
It’s called diplomacy and if Pelosi had not worn the getup they would not talk to her. Or would you rather the US just bomb Syria?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:36 amThe reason for attacking Pelosi has nothing to do with gender equality, it’s because she has the nerve to embarrass this administration by going against Bush’s childish stance toward relations with Damascus.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:37 amSo what did they talk about? The date and time of American surrender to Islamo Fascism?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:39 amWhy does TP have the delay in posting when they allow the wingnut cut and paste jobs?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:40 amHow often do American men hold each other’s hands?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:40 amhttp://www.dmockcrazy.com/ images/ bu5h_saudi_hold_hands1.jpg
Laura is the First Lady who is obliged to do such things. Pelosi is a partisan speaker who has no business being there in the first place. It is not the job of Congress.
Traitor Nancy - get used to hearing it. We will blundgeon Pelosi and Democrats over their constant cheering for the enemy.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:40 amPatrick1, dumber than ever before. Entropy seems to be eating away at this idiot’s crumbling psyche.
See you in November 2008, freak.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:40 am“the Syrian point of view is we either cut off your head or blow you up, which of those is the United States supposed to accept?”
what?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:41 amBush Regime Attacks Rep. Pelosi To Divert Attention From Sen. McCain
Wednesday 4th of April 2007
by Jay Randal
The Bush Regime is attacking Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Syria, to divert press attention away from reporting on Sen. John McCain’s disgraceful photo-op stunt in Iraq, so distraction from the real outrage in Baghdad.
Sen. McCain misused US military personnel, in Iraq, to attempt to bamboozle American public into belief that the streets of Baghdad are safe enough for even US Senators, to go shopping, but are actually unsafe.
He needed 100 American soldiers to guard him, with helicopter gunships flying overhead to protect him, so he could stage his propaganda walk down a street in Baghdad and claim that Iraq has improving security.
The whole event was a disinformation scam, utilizing troops and military hardware that were needed elsewhere, so his stunt helped cause the deaths of soldiers in other locations in Iraq and more wounded as well.
The press must focus on Sen. McCain’s stunt in Iraq!
(Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
PS: Call and Fax McCain’s DC office telling him to resign now.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:42 amGeorge W. Bush, selling out his Christianity to suck up to the Israelis?
Hmmmmmm…….See Right Wingnuttia, the left can attack, attack, attack, too.
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 10:42 amThese trolls are so lame.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:42 am“Laura is the First Lady who is obliged to do such things. Pelosi is a partisan speaker who has no business being there in the first place. It is not the job of Congress.”
tell Frank Wolf, Joe Pitts, and Robert Aderholt
April 4th, 2007 at 10:42 amOh oh….The Right Wingnazis are going to “blundgeon” Pelosi……..
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 10:43 amLaura is the First Lady who is obliged to do such thing
April 4th, 2007 at 10:43 amComment by I Heart Terrorists — April 4, 2007 @ 10:40 am
So Laura is a subservent of the administration?
Laura must oblige, making her importance less than a man?
Dude, it must suck to have gone through you’re entire life without ever kissing a woman.
On FOX News Hannity and Colmes tonight– Ahmadinejad or Bush: Who is more screechy and unhinged?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:44 amWhile we are at war..and spending billions of dollars of our budget to keep feeding this war machine…the story of scarf seems to be of big importance to some people.. .It is the main issue to these people of the whole trip…..
How disgusting that is?!!!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:44 amI don’t think Pelosi wearing a scarf on her head is nearly as disturbing as Dubya kissing Abdullah.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:44 am#
So what did they talk about? The date and time of American surrender to Islamo Fascism?
Comment by Patrick1 — April 4, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Those discussions were between Cheney and Ghaddaffy…you know, the guy who blew-up a plane over Scotland….then became George W. Bush’s hero and BFF forever after negotiating with him.
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 10:44 amTraitor Nancy - get used to hearing it. We will blundgeon Pelosi and Democrats over their constant cheering for the enemy.
Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — April 4, 2007 @ 10:40 am
You are pathetically out of touch, LHT, just like Bush and the Republicans in Congress. I suggest studying the 2006 election results. Your guys got clobbered, especially when you consider the structural advantages gerrymandered by the GOP.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:45 amP V1.0
April 4th, 2007 at 10:45 amThen what the hell were 3 GOPer’s doing in Damascus last Sunday?
Your double standards are hanging you guys. Can’t you see that?
You know very well that in Syria, women are not equal to men.
Exactly - that’s why the Syrians accepting her as an American Diplomat with whom they were willing to speak is a huge sign of progress. There have been instances in the past when other Middle Eastern countries have refused to speak with our female diplomats…
Christianity didn’t recognize woman as human beings until 632… Look how far we’ve come in this country dominated by Christian Patriarchy (though still not far enough or, like the rest of teh Industrialized Nations, we’d have an Equal Rights Amendment and we’d be getting equal pay for equal work).
Instead of looking at it as a sign of respect to their culture, people should look at it as a sign of disrespect to all women.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:17 am
Or, you could be a realizt and look at it as a sign of progress that they spoke with her at all, and that she was smart enough to know that she would maintain that respect if she simply reciprocated.
I realize it’s a difficult concept for you neocons who want to dominate and destroy everything like you - but you can’t claim to care about womens rights when you’re not willing to respect Syrian culture - or, considering Gitmo - human rights either…
April 4th, 2007 at 10:45 amSaudi Arabia is far more oppressive than Syria.
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 10:46 amI KNOW I just busted on p1 for cutting and pasting, but I reaally wanna know about the talking donkeys….
Comment by whiteyfresh — April 4, 2007 @ 10:22 am
I responded in the other thread… :)
April 4th, 2007 at 10:46 amForget about the headscarf. What about the President and his constant desire to kiss men. Talk about sending mixed signals.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:47 amso you’re telling me she should have disrespected the law regarding apparel before entering a holy site?
By your thinking, just because, here in the US, we have laws forbidding nudity on a beach, if Europeans come over here to sunbathe, they can remove their tops because it is their cultural right?
Doesn’t fly rancid bunny. Does not fly!
If you have no problem with the most powerful woman in America having to cover herself for the simple fact that she is a woman then fine. People here keep making comparisons that are completely off in left field and have nothing to do with this. Making people keep their clothes on in America has nothing to do with opressing women.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:51 amIt’s comments like unbelievable’s (90) that keep me reading here. Great post.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:53 amUB:awesome-got it
April 4th, 2007 at 10:54 amrabidbunny,
They’re not really trying to tell you anything, it’s just hypocritical ranting.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:54 amAnother great response to the Right Wing Marching Parrots - thanks TP!
April 4th, 2007 at 10:55 amYou know, the trolls might be onto something: Laura Bush really is different than Nancy Pelosi. Of course it is wrong for a strong, independent woman like Pelosi to knuckle under by wearing a head scarf. But it is fine when a true American Taliban woman like Laura does it. After all, this Stepford wife serves at the whim of her Christian Lord and Master, CinC George. So why not symbolize subservience by wearing the scarf?
April 4th, 2007 at 10:55 amIf we cannot be respectful in other countries, why would we ask them to respect us. You don’t go into someone’s home and put your muddy feet on their couch just like a woman does not go into a mosque with her head uncovered. If these repugs want to pick on anything, how about all the homoerotic hand holding and kissing Bush and his father does with the Saudi leaders. It’s one thing to cover one’s head… another to kiss a man.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:55 amBush loves to kiss bald headed men on their foreheads. He has a fetish for bald headed guys like Jeff Gannon > lol.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:56 amThese people are such ugly human beings.They act beneath the dignity of human beings. Their ugliness is seated in their arrested development at age 7.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:57 amJay Randal,
No not the forehead, the lips. Ohhhh how gay.
http://images.search.yahoo.com/ search/ images/ view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dbush%2520kissing%2520Abdullah%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26x%3Dwrt%26fr2%3Dtab-web&w=300&h=250&imgurl=www.earthhopenetwork.net%2Fbush%2520art%2Fbush_abdullah.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.earthhopenetwork.net%2FBush_Iraq_Middle_East_2.htm&size=19.4kB&name=bush_abdullah.jpg&p=bush+kissing+Abdullah&type=jpeg&no=2&tt=13&oid=9e9f0d7c90d06ee0&ei=UTF-8
April 4th, 2007 at 11:01 amIf you have no problem with the most powerful woman in America having to cover herself for the simple fact that she is a woman then fine. People here keep making comparisons that are completely off in left field and have nothing to do with this. Making people keep their clothes on in America has nothing to do with opressing women.
That’s it rabid, try to keep your world together; bend the logic here, twist it there, and your sorry world view just might stay intact. Speaker Pelosi was trying to get a job done. If putting a scarf on helped her get that job done, great. Only an idiot or a fool would choose that moment to make a stand about equal rights and/or cultural differences. The fact that the Speaker of the House IS a woman already says a great deal.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:01 amCould this be what all the diversion and SPIN is about?
The US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad has assured her in talks that he is ready to resume peace talks with Israel…
[from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6522743.stm ]
ReichWingNuts and ChristoFascistTerrorists don’t want _you_ to know that Pelosi might be successful in an area BushCo has utterly failed in.
Think about it.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:01 amIf you have no problem with the most powerful woman in America having to cover herself
Comment by rabidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:51 am
She didn’t have to… She chose to. I realize you don’t get it, but there are some of us who understand that respect is a two way street.
She respected them, and they respected her… AND vice versa. It’s how change begins… One step at a time.
She was a role model for how a powerful woman could be respectful. It might have the consequence of causing some of them to think about it. She might have planted a seed that could make a difference for future generations. She wouldn’t have done that if she’d been rude - for thenthey would have focused on her disrespect.
It’s basic physics - Newton’s Third Law… For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Give respect and you get respect… Simple, eh?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:02 am#87 - apparently Nancy and people like you, need to study the 2004 elections. President Bush won the election and his cabinet is responsible for diplomatic relations whether you like it or not.
I might be out of touch, but it certainly worked well for Democrats last year. If the strategy is to attack your opponent viciously and relentlessly without ever offering a plan, then the GOP needs to start playing that game too.
Democrats stand for nothing except unfettered hatred for George W. Bush. Well, the GOP can play that game too.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:04 amIt’s comments like unbelievable’s (90) that keep me reading here. Great post.
Comment by hellinabucket — April 4, 2007 @ 10:53 am
Thank you… :)
April 4th, 2007 at 11:04 amThe biggest fear of the Republican Power Elite is a world at peace.
-GSD
April 4th, 2007 at 11:04 amI think Nancy looked great!! I think it’s a look she might want to get comfortable with…..
April 4th, 2007 at 11:05 am#54 - So, where’s your outrage at the Republicans that met with Syria?
Your double standards are showing.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:05 amPatrick1 you really are a dipshit aren’t you! Pelosi is SECOND in line to the President not third you dumbass…
April 4th, 2007 at 11:06 amRancid Rabbit,
The mattress store called. You new mattress will be delivered this afternoon. But they’re not taking away your old piss-soaked mattress, because the delivery guys each got hernias. Sorry.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:06 amPelosi is just laying the groundwork of responsible and rational governance once the Republicans and neocons are flushed out of office in 2008. Bush and the Republicans have had their chance to lead and will leave a lasting legacy of failure, war, death, and corruption.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:07 amRocks > Bush kisses bald headed men on their foreheads and he kisses Saudi royalty on the lips.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:07 amThe US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad has assured her in talks that he is ready to resume peace talks with Israel…
Comment by JesusChrist_GodofWAR — April 4, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Excellent catch! All that for just an ounce of respect from a square piece of fabric… Well, and her brilliant mind and peaceful aspirations, of course :)
Great job Speaker Pelosi! Your country thanks you.
Now please impeach Bush and Cheney so you can fix the rest of their messes in this regard :)
April 4th, 2007 at 11:09 amThe lips ewwwwwwww!
April 4th, 2007 at 11:11 amDemocrats stand for nothing except unfettered hatred for George W. Bush. Well, the GOP can play that game too.
Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — April 4, 2007 @ 11:04 am
Talk about delusional! Your side INVENTED that game…
Join reality. It hurts a whole lot less…
April 4th, 2007 at 11:11 amDrudge has lost credibility. I no longer read it.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:12 amDamascus is a highly educated, cosmopolitan city. I’ll bet the average resident of Damascus is better educated than the average American. Actually, since this whole GWOT thingie, Syria has, like the rest of the Muslim world, gotten more fundamentalist. Instead of the trend to less religious oppression, they are going the other way. Before women in the middle of Damascus wouldn’t necessarily be admonished for not wearing a hijab, but nowadays the trend is to be “better Muslims.” An Islamic revival of sorts. All thanks to you know who.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:12 amZOOEY!
what’s happening?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:13 amA blog post about what I’m talking about:
April 4th, 2007 at 11:13 amhttp://damascusdreams.wordpress.com/ 2006/ 12/ 07/ some-observations-about-syrian-women/
Bush is jealous because Pelosi is a naturally beautiful woman.
Look at WTF he married.
Style, grace, intelligence. Geez, W, how would that feel?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:14 amThe “How…quaint” remark from LGF was a regarding the tomb containing the head of John the Baptist. Also you might have noticed that quite a few of the commenters defended Nancy Pelosi for wearing the headscarf while inside of the mosque. In fact I posted pictures of Laura Bush wearing the black scarf at al-Aqsa mosque as well as Laura Bush wearing a head covering when meeting with the Pope in that very LGF thread.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:14 amWhat are you talking about? the GOP PERFECTED that method. They are the masters.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:17 amShe didn’t have to… She chose to. I realize you don’t get it, but there are some of us who understand that respect is a two way street.
Would they have allowed her in if she hadn’t wore it? NO
April 4th, 2007 at 11:17 am“Democrats stand for nothing except unfettered hatred for George W. Bush. Well, the GOP can play that game too.”
actually the democratic house leader is taking the initiative to find diplomatic solutions to the mess in the middle east. the mess that came about because the repub’s went in there without a plan.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:18 amMaking people keep their clothes on in America has nothing to do with opressing women.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 10:51 am
And yet, MEN are allowed to go topless in every trailer park in America!
So how is it not about oppressing women again?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:19 amThat’s it rabid, try to keep your world together; bend the logic here, twist it there, and your sorry world view just might stay intact. Speaker Pelosi was trying to get a job done. If putting a scarf on helped her get that job done, great. Only an idiot or a fool would choose that moment to make a stand about equal rights and/or cultural differences. The fact that the Speaker of the House IS a woman already says a great deal.
Got it! It is okay to compromise your beliefs and ideals to “get the job done”. Too bad this meeting will not get any job done. She just wanted a photo op to reign in the quickly growing muslim vote in America.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:19 am#125 - “Would they have allowed her in if she hadn’t wore it? NO” Comment by rabidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 11:17 am
So, you’re asying it’s all fine & hunky dorey that First Lady Luara Bush wore a headscarf, but it’s completely wrong that Speaker Pelosi did?
Double standards, anyone?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:20 amRancid Rabbit,
The mattress store called. You new mattress will be delivered this afternoon. But they’re not taking away your old piss-soaked mattress, because the delivery guys each got hernias. Sorry.
More childish insults. I guess when that is all you have to fall back on….
April 4th, 2007 at 11:21 amBush is jealous because Pelosi is a naturally beautiful woman.
Huh?
Say what you like about George but Laura Bush is a class act.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:21 amYou wouldn’t understand, dears, it’s called ‘diplomacy’.
Perish the thought another country’s customs should be respected by a visiting dignitary. Perhaps she should have driven there in a Hummer, wearing a stars-and-stripes bikini, shouting ‘USA, USA’?
I wonder if these flag-waving simpletons could pool their cognitive resources and maybe scrape together one collective IQ point?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:22 amSo, you’re asying it’s all fine & hunky dorey that First Lady Luara Bush wore a headscarf, but it’s completely wrong that Speaker Pelosi did?
Double standards, anyone?
I think it is messe up the Laura Bush did the same thing. But I hold the speaker of the house to a higher standard than the woman that is married to the president.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:22 amAnd yet, MEN are allowed to go topless in every trailer park in America!
So how is it not about oppressing women again?
You could not be reaching more here. Have you ever heard an advocate of woman rights complain about not being able to run around topless in a trailer park?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:23 amPlease explain what Pelosi should have done? Maybe throw the scarf in someone’s face and then spit on it? What?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:24 amJust as a man can’t go topless to a diplomatic negotiation and be taken seriously
apparently you’ve never seen “300″….
April 4th, 2007 at 11:25 amYou wouldn’t understand, dears, it’s called ‘diplomacy’.
It’s called a culture that has opressed women for thousands of years.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:25 amWith Hillary and Traitor Nancy representing the Democrats in 2008, I think the GOP will be able to hang on to the White House.
AND accept it , radical lefties at TP. Hillary will be your nominee. Her husband and her will shut out the opposition like they always do. AND the wimpy Democrats will roll over for their favorite fascist leaders. Then, the GOP goes in for the kill.
How Orwellian.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:27 amMore greatest hits from Laura Bush:
“Many parts of Iraq are stable now. But, of course, what we see on television is the one bombing a day that discourages everybody.”
- February 2007
“I don’t really believe those polls. I travel around the country, I see people, I see their response to my husband, I see their response to me…A lot of people come up to me and say, ‘Stay the course.’”
April 4th, 2007 at 11:27 am- May 2006
“It’s called a culture that has opressed women for thousands of years.”
every culture is guilty of that.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:27 amZOOEY!
what’s happening?
Comment by whiteyfresh
Not much, whitey. Basically procrastinating while I should be studying for my Soc exam. How about you?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:29 amMore childish insults. I guess when that is all you have to fall back on….
Comment by rabidbunny
No, it’s true….I’ve got the message right here.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:30 amPlease explain what Pelosi should have done? Maybe throw the scarf in someone’s face and then spit on it? What?
Make a stand saying that women are equal to men. Maybe meet someplace else, where she does not need to wear something that was created to make women inferior. Sometimes doing the right thing is not easy, but once you sell out your convictions it’s hard to get them back.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:30 amYeah, because that strategy worked SO well for the GOP in 2006
And sorry Patrick, but your usually pathetic trolling is even weaker than usual with this topic, as the fact that three GOP members were in Syria one day before Pelosi completely undercuts your GOP-approved anti-dem talking points
Doesn’t it just sting knowing that NONE of your bs will turn things around for the absolute worst, most incompetent President in US history, none of your blather will EVER get the public to overwhelmingly support W again like it did after 9-11?
A reality that applies to any W apologist troll/media whore/loyal quisling on any liberal site, none of the pro W rhetoric will do a damn thing to bolster or recoup his now expended “political capital” he claimed to earn way back when
Too Bad, So Sad, Case Closed, Deal With It
What a time those making up the GOP’s base, election night 2004, all that gloating on the far right about how the GOP was going to demolish the Great Society programs, the GOP was destined for permanent political majority status while the Dems were headed for permanent exile in the political wilderness
My, how times have changed in less than 3 years
Heya trolls, how does it feel knowing that you do NOT represent the political, social and religious mainstream in this country?
Expect the rhetoric from the ChickenHawk Enablers, AKA W supporters/media whores/loyal quislings to become even more deranged, shrill and untethered from reality the closer we get to the 2008 elections if W’s still holding the US troops hostage in Iraq
One other thing for the trolls to consider
Hurricane season’s coming, and we all saw with the Federal response to Katrina the stark differences between Clinton-competent-and W-clueless-when it comes to how FEMA operates
Choke on that, trolls
April 4th, 2007 at 11:30 amevery culture is guilty of that.
Does that mean we should be regressing?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:31 amYou could not be reaching more here. Have you ever heard an advocate of woman rights complain about not being able to run around topless in a trailer park?
Comment by rabidbunny
No but there are plenty who advocate breast feeding in public.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:32 amAnd can somebody provide an appropriate link showing that demanding women wear head-scarves is an oppressive tactic?
The GOP’s idea of diplomacy is confrontation and threats.
Somewhere along the way they’ve been brainwashed into believing that real men don’t DO diplomacy. That showing any respect to anyone is somehow weak. All tough guy nonsense. The kind of nonsense that’s made us so beloved around the planet (NOT!).
It’s much easier to just reject any real diplomacy out of hand. That way you don’t have to actually DO anything. Other than going on British tv like that awful man Bolton pronouncing the British diplomacy efforts as “pathetic”. Thanks for making more friends for the U.S. jerk!
Either that or they’re just provoking the rest of the world into eternal conflicts and war on purpose.
Probably some of both I suspect.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:32 amZooey:i’m movin to the new post(on Mitt Romney)..See ya there!!
April 4th, 2007 at 11:33 amThere’s nothing wrong with wearing a headscarf you uncultured, uneducated, morons!!!
It is a different country, different culture. When you go to a neighbors house, you act politely and abide by the rules of their house no? I know most of you right wing idiots have never left the country (thank god), but when you do, you respect the culture of the country you are visiting. …When you go to the Vatican, women must wear pants, or skirts/dresses that go below the knee, as a symbol of respect on holy grounds. This is no different.
You idiots lump together valid cultural differences and uncivilized, outdated practices (i.e. stoning for adultery or something) as if they are the same thing
Read a book, …and go to therapy for christ’s sake!
…come to think of it, I think this is probably the only time I’ve ever seen one of you right-wingers pretend to care about women’s rights… morons.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:34 amNo, it’s true….I’ve got the message right here.
Sorry but you don’t…all you have are slow witted insults that make very little sense if any.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:34 amCondi in a mosque with an oppressive scarf….
http://i130.photobucket.com/ albums/ p257/ johnnyrocket7108/ condi.jpg
April 4th, 2007 at 11:34 am#144 - careful, my friend. You may not win 2008, especially with Fascist, oppostion crusher, Hillary at the top of your ticket.
AND the GOP is one seat away from a right-wing majority on the Supreme Court so yes, undoing the “Great Society” is still very doable.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:35 amOh, well in that case, just drive on in and honk your horn and shout at the top of your lungs. I’m sure you’ll just un-oppress all those women with your mighty moral superiority. They’ll simply cast their scarves aside and join in with your chanting.
They wouldn’t at all just be further alienated by a group of loud people, steadfastly refusing to remove the optically impeding plank of wood.
So, Judge Dredd, to paraphrase Alejandro, what would you have done?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:36 amSay what you like about George but Laura Bush is a class act.
Comment by Ringo
Which class was she in when she ran over her boyfriend, who had just dumped her?
Which class was she in when she was dealing drugs at TCU?
I will say what I like about Dumbya, thank you.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:36 amI’ll also say what I like about his Stepford wife.
Classless, perhaps. Certainly not a class act.
“Make a stand saying that women are equal to men”
that’s a great idea. she can start by passing legislation that automatically raises your pay if you are a woman, since here in american, women make 76 cents for every dollar that men make.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:37 am@ #152: …a neo-con calling a democrat a fascist?
…couldn’t be, let me check again…
…yep…
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April 4th, 2007 at 11:38 amComment by johnnyr — April 4, 2007 @ 11:34 am
Where did you find that! I’ve been looking all morning!
<tips hat>
April 4th, 2007 at 11:38 am#
And yet, MEN are allowed to go topless in every trailer park in America!
So how is it not about oppressing women again?
You could not be reaching more here. Have you ever heard an advocate of woman rights complain about not being able to run around topless in a trailer park?
Comment by rabidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 11:23 am
Yes, I have. I married her. (well, except the trailer park thing, she avoids those because they are usually full of republicans)
Why should she be forced to wear a shirt in the summer if I’m not?
Your hypocrisy is showing. You care more about getting in a dig on Pelosi than anything to do with womens’ rights.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:39 am… a little further into the article we learn something else that’s rather interesting.
The meeting with the president enabled us to communicate a message from Prime Minister Olmert that Israel was ready to engage in peace talks as well… - Nancy Pelosi, US House Speaker
[from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6522743.stm ]
So what we have here are two sides in the Middle East agreeing to talk.
When did that happen during ReichWingNut ChristoFascistTerrorist “ownership” of both houses of Congress?
Say what you will about Nancy’s attire. I don’t care. What matters here is that someone just opened the door for real discussion. And it WASN’T the Boy Emperor who did it either. Gannon-Bush wants war! not discussion that might lead to possible peace.
ITMFAs now!
April 4th, 2007 at 11:40 amAnd can somebody provide an appropriate link showing that demanding women wear head-scarves is an oppressive tactic?
How is this? Australia’s most senior Muslim cleric compared women to a piece of meat.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Guys, this whole thing is not a big deal. Whether Laura Bush or Pelosi wore a head scarf is really not important.
The hypocrisy of republicans criticizing Pelosi, but not Laura is somewhat comical, though. I don’t see the distinction some are trying to draw between Pelosi being elected vs Laura not being elected. What, do only elected officials have a duty to try to spread our views of gender equality? Or a greater duty? If so why?
Concerning #54, I don’t know how Pelosi’s visit provided any assistance to Syria. Even if it did, they did withdraw troops from Lebanon, and small assistance now may help with getting them to do those other things. Probably more importantly, though, if we’re talking about doing anything to assist Syria, it’s most likely to try to get them to help us out of our quagmire in Iraq. Our only hope for lessening the catastrophe there is to get the ‘bad guy’ neighbors involved and on the same page. It’s a trade-off I’d be willing to make.
Concerning wearing a head scarf in general… There are a hundred reason why she could have worn the scarf:
#1 - Because it’s required to go in, and they won’t let you in the mosque otherwise, and she just wanted to see the place. Note that this is probably why Laura wore the scarf.
#2 - Because it is more important to have a dialog and an interchange where our people can evaluate their culture and their people can evaluate ours (in theory leading to them realizing our culture has things it would be good to adopt), and in order to have this dialog we need to either give their culture a fair shake, or appear to give their culture a fair shake so they’ll do the same with ours.
#3 - Because it makes her appear less out-in-left-field with some of the other things we would like for their civilization to do, and thus more likely for them to accept these things.
Etc, etc…
The scarf fight has been going on for a while now, and it will continue to go on. It was just not the fight that she wanted to have this day. Change takes time, and a big part of bringing about change is knowing when and where to pick your fights. This is what Pelosi is doing.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:44 amAnd can somebody provide an appropriate link showing that demanding women wear head-scarves is an oppressive tactic?
How is this? Australia’s most senior Muslim cleric compared women to a piece of meat.
Comment by rancidbunny — April 4, 2007 @ 11:42 am
And the appropriate link is……..? Where is it?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:44 amthat’s a great idea. she can start by passing legislation that automatically raises your pay if you are a woman, since here in american, women make 76 cents for every dollar that men make.
I don’t think automatically raising pay for women would help. If anything it would have an adverse effect. Less women would be hired because of a government mandate. The U.S. still has a ways to go for gender equality, but it has gotten much better in the last few decades. We should not go backwards with acts like Pelosi did? What do you think women make in Syria compared to men?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:45 amWhat ever happened to “When in Rome, do as the Romans do?” Would these cretins criticize a Westerner who removed one’s shoes before entering a Hindu Temple, or a Christian who dons a yarmulke on entering a synagogue? It’s just common decency to accommodate local custom. It doesn’t mean you’re converting.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:45 amWhy is anyone surprised by the outrage? Conservatives are too blinded by bigotry to see that showing respect for another’s culture while in their country is a good thing. “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”- the simplest of common sense you short-sighted morons.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:45 amAnd your “culture” bombs women and children.
STFU, hypocrite. Go and lecture about morals and rectitude to another place.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:45 amHow is this? Australia’s most senior Muslim cleric compared women to a piece of meat.
Link didn’t work.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/ story/ 0,20867,20646437-601,00.html
April 4th, 2007 at 11:46 am# 106 I might be out of touch,
you are
but it certainly worked well for Democrats last year.
care to explain to us how that worked exactly?
If the strategy is to attack your opponent viciously and relentlessly without ever offering a plan, then the GOP needs to start playing that game too.
you mean like swiftboating vetereans, mocking them with purple heart band-aids, and making up stories about veterans capitivity induced mental instability and imaginary black babies? you fookers have been dishing it out but you cant take it very well, can you?
oh wait, no i forgot, your guys strategy is different: yours involves attacking your opponent viciously and relentlessly while offering a plan so insane and ludicrious only a methamphetime addict getting his juice from a gay preacher would think it had any chance of success..
hey, lets bring peace and prowestern secular democracy by force to a country with a history of centuries of internal strife and religious fanaticism!!
Democrats stand for nothing except unfettered hatred for George W. Bush. Well, the GOP can play that game too.
hahahaha. you already did douchebag..to Clinton…
take your medicine and stop whining like a little Bi3tch.
oh and do you all right wing chowderheads screaming about demeaning women agree that women should have as much right to decide what goes on in thier bodies as men do?
April 4th, 2007 at 11:46 am