Pelosi Challenges White House: If I Gave Syria The Wrong Message, Prove It
Pelosi Challenges White House: If I Gave Syria The Wrong Message, Prove It
Conservatives and media figures continue to claim, without evidence, that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) delivered an incorrect message from Israel to Syria during her meeting with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Pelosi insists that Israel’s message was communicated accurately, and has suggested a good way to prove it:
[Pelosi spokesman Brendan] Daly pointed out that Pelosi was briefed by State Department officials before her meetings with the foreign leaders and that State Department officials also attended her meetings.
So if Pelosi really committed foreign policy flubs of the first order, the State Department is in a position to confirm as much.
The White House certainly received a read-out of what exactly Pelosi and the foreign leaders said in their meetings. Significantly, the White House has not openly accused Pelosi of the foreign-policy missteps the Post had accused her of.In an e-mail follow-up, Daly wrote: “WH has not said that because in fact the Speaker did not get the message wrong — she included the necessary caveats and did not say or imply that this was a change in Israel’s position.”
Indeed, despite President Bush’s claim that Pelosi’s trip sent “mixed signals,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said during his briefing today, “I don’t think [the trip] necessarily complicates anything that we’re doing.”
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“I don’t think [the trip] necessarily complicates anything that we’re doing.†– – I think McCormack may have choked a bit while trying to spit that out. Truth can do that to recidivist liars.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:24 pmSean is simply being nice. Pelosi’s “foreign policy flub” was having the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE go to the ENEMY in the first place.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:25 pmSean probably doesn’t want to get subpoenaed and harrassed to death by political SHOW TRIALS back here while Pelosi plays nice with our enemies ABROAD! At least McCarthy’s SHOW TRIALS were directed AT the real enemy!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:26 pmDuring REAL wars, people, there’s only ONE Commander-in-Chief!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:28 pmJake,
STFU, your CiC is a failure just like you.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:29 pmShe even had trouble pronouncing “Damascus”!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:30 pmHow is the current administration and the repug talk shows going to spin this one? What talking point is Jake and other trolls like him going to use off ‘the’ list to counter?
Bring it on trolls, Faux repugs….
April 5th, 2007 at 2:30 pmCheney says Pelosi shouldn’t have visited Assad because the US is isolating him for bad behavior.
But two seperate Repuke delegations visited Assad in the past week.
So its okay for the Repukes to do it, but not the Dems? Bullshit.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pmDemocrats: playing nice with our enemies ever since Benedict Arnold.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:33 pm“During REAL wars, people, there’s only ONE Commander-in-Chief!
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:28 pm”
Correct, but we ARE NOT AT WAR!!!!
Show me the DECLARATION OF WAR from Congress.
No the AUMF is NOT a declaration of war! Which Bush did not even follow to begin with, which makes this conflict ILLEGAL!!!!
Also, as long as the Republicans do it…… It’s OK!!!! The Repubs put troop limits on Clinton, and a time table for the troops….. The Repubs, Hastert, went to Columbia and told them to IGNORE Clinton and to deal directly with the Congress……
HYPOCRITES!!!!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:33 pmPut up or shut your traps Rape-Public-Cans. Go ahead you are being called out. Your manhood is being called into question. PROVE IT………yeah, thats what we knew.
OWNED
April 5th, 2007 at 2:33 pmDuring OIL wars, there’s only one Chimp-In-Chief.
The Iraqi puppet government is voting to give most of their oil to Big Oil.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:33 pmJake is back kids. I guess sometimes things we think are dead only smell that way, like Jake!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:34 pmJake I’m disappointed…your list of talking points is very boring
April 5th, 2007 at 2:34 pmShe even had trouble pronouncing “Damascusâ€!
Ohhhh my….
Your idiot president can’t even pronounce Nuclear bitch!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:35 pm“She even had trouble pronouncing “Damascusâ€!
Comment by Real RedNeck — April 5, 2007 @ 2:30 pm”
Yeah, but just imagine what Bush would have said…..
Damn ass cuss…….
We ALL know he is an IDIOT and can’t speak English let alone some other countries language.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:35 pmJake, the Repukes visited “the enemy” too.
You’re full of crap, troll. Go back under your bridge.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:35 pmWhen leadership failes (Chimpy HISTORICAL COLLOSSAL FAILURE) new Leadership will assume the post.
The Repukes envy, hostility, and jealousy are anticipated childish reactions.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:37 pmNice that MSM is even covering this Bulls@#%!!! Bush/Cheney/Repukes are to blame for all this hog s### that is contury is in over there. I don’t want Bush, Cheney or even Condi’s sorry asses talking to anyone on my behalf. F$#@ tha republican party and all of their mindless supporters. MMMMMMM, that flet good.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:37 pm“[Rep.] Pitts and U.S. Reps. Frank Wolfe of Virginia and Robert Aderholt of Alabama met with Assad Sunday to talk about issues in the Middle East three days before Pelosi’s delegation arrived there on a similar mission.”
April 5th, 2007 at 2:38 pmTom3,
What will be so funny about ALL of this, when those Iraqi’s stand up so we can stand down, they’ll turn around and frick us like every other middle east country, faction, warlord we thought we were helping, to only turn around when they realized who the true enemy is. (our corporate controlled govt).
April 5th, 2007 at 2:38 pmTHERE IS ONLY ONE JAKEOFF
April 5th, 2007 at 2:39 pmJakeoff: Playing with himself ever since he could.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:41 pmFor the record, no REPUBLICAN Speaker of the House visited our enemies during a war — Harry S Truman would have rightly arrested Joseph William Martin and had him tried for treason had he gone to Korea during that (”not”) war too.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pmDuring REAL wars, people, there’s only ONE Commander-in-Chief!
Comment by Jake
True, Jake. But the wars are won by the leaders in the trenches and those who follow them. At least Pelosi isn’t afraid to get into the trenches and get her hands dirty.
Its only in the movies where some pompussed-ass idiot, blowhard cowboy wannabe wins a war.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:43 pmDuring REAL wars, people, there’s only ONE Commander-in-Chief!
And if we were in a REAL war with Syria, Pelosi wouldn’t have made the trip. But, you see, outside of your mental ward, we are not at war with Syria, and are in fact trying to get them to be more cooperative with our foreign policy goals.
You know what another term for “mixed messages” is? Good Cop-Bad Cop.
Your hero has crashed every car we’ve given him, and the grown-ups are taking away the keys.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:43 pmPelosi will accomplish what the entire Bush Cabal couldn’t accomplish in one brief visit – diplomacy! The GOP and WH are nothing but jealous, hate-filled, card-carrying bigots who hate themselves so much that they find it impossible to generate anything but negativity in their path.
GOP = The Party of HATE
April 5th, 2007 at 2:44 pmJake sez:
Fair enough…let me know when Congress declares war.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:45 pmNuke-u-lar Bush can’t complete one sentence without stumbling and mumbling like a fool…..ergo…The Fool on the Hill = George W. Bush.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:45 pmas soon as you show me our CiC, i’ll believe you,Jake.Mine seems to be missing, having been replaced my a monkey it seems…
:)
April 5th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI’m out y’all. Back in a 1/2 hr or so…
I guess that also means Vietnam was not a “war” either now, according to the reality-based folks — so Jane Fonda is in the clear too!! Must be nice to live your little alternative-universe.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:46 pmThe president represents only one branch of government. America is a democracy, not a dictatorship.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:46 pmSean is simply being nice. Pelosi’s “foreign policy flub†was having the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE go to the ENEMY in the first place.
Hm. I guess you would agree that Dennis Hastert made a few “foreign policy flubs” of his own back when he was Speaker.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:47 pmSyria is a new inductee in the Axis of Evil, in case you didn’t know. According to the Bush Doctrine, we are at war with terrorists and any State that harbors or supports them. George W. Bush: saving your ass, whether you like it or not.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:48 pmShe even had trouble pronouncing “Damascusâ€!
Comment by Real RedNeck
Nice shot, RedNeck. Dumb broad probably did not even know that in Arabic, the city is called Dimashq ash-ShÄm. Although this is often shortened to either Dimashq or ash-ShÄm by many. The citizens of Damascus, and of Syria and some other Arab neighbors, colloquially call the city ash-ShÄm. Ash-ShÄm is an Arabic term for north and for Syria.
But of course, I am sure you knew all of this.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:48 pmDemocrats: playing nice with our enemies ever since Benedict Arnold.
I suppose you would also agree that Republicans have been playing nice with our “enemies” since three Reps went with Pelosi.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pm“I guess that also means Vietnam was not a “war†either now, according to the reality-based folks — so Jane Fonda is in the clear too!! Must be nice to live your little alternative-universe.”
please stop, for the sake of any offspring you might be embarrassing
April 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pm“For the record, no REPUBLICAN Speaker of the House visited our enemies during a war — Harry S Truman would have rightly arrested Joseph William Martin and had him tried for treason had he gone to Korea during that (â€notâ€) war too.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:42 pm”
Was it OUR war????
NO!!!!
We provided assistance to S. Korea….. This might have been a war, but it was not something we started…. We were simply trying to ensure that S. Korea was safe.
BIG DIFFERENCE, for a LITTLE MIND.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmJeez, the troll is an idiot.
First of all, we are not in a war. War has to be voted on by Congress.
Secondly, we are not in a war with Syria. We have a US Embassy there.
Cheney LIED when he said Pelosi was wrong to visit Syria because we are isolating them for bad behavior. Two seperate Republican delegations also visited Syria in the past week.
Go back under your bridge, you stupid troll.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmDuring REAL wars, people, there’s only ONE Commander-in-Chief!
Well there’s the problem. If it were a REAL war, maybe the majority of Americans would stand behind Bush. Instead we have a personal crusade being fought FOR Bush rather than in defense of our nation.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmPerhaps you missed our CiC landing on that carrier after major combat operations against Saddam were over? See you in a while, whiteyfresh : )
April 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmJake
Please, please, please give me the web site you trolls go to for your ‘copy and paste talking points’…..I need a good laugh.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:50 pmFor the record, no REPUBLICAN Speaker of the House visited our enemies during a war — Harry S Truman would have rightly arrested Joseph William Martin and had him tried for treason had he gone to Korea during that (â€notâ€) war too.
Oh, my God! I had no idea we were at war with Syria!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:50 pmann:
When did Hastert do that? The “war” on drugs is not a real war — see comments above claiming there was no “declaration”, no CiC, we are simply “trying to get them to be more cooperative with our foreign policy goals.”
April 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pmComment by Jake
Issa wouldn’t have gone if the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE had not broken the embargo.
Comment by Jake
Now before Pelosi went to Syria a Republican group spoke to the President of Syria. GOP House Members Virginia Wolf, Penn. Pitts and Ala. Aberholt.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pmNo mention of breaking the embargo. Why? Bush ok’d his GOP reps. to go and talk but Pelosi can’t go. Then Bush ok’s Republican Issa’s visit. Why is Pelosi’s visit considered breaking embargo yet Republicans are free to do as they want. Now former Speaker Hastert visited the Middle East during the Clinton term just to make sure the Middle East didn’t listen to a word Clinton said. No problem there is it. The President of Syria knows what’s happening in the US as the scandal and lies come to light. That fake show by the GOP could be seen even by a blind man. Bush is busted and he knows it. Karl Rove’s tricks no longer work and the Middle East is finished with the GOP and White House. Only the paid media and Fox news are selling the lies that don’t work anymore.
Damascus Nancy is nuts as the Washington Post so ably pointed out this morning.
We came in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace,†Ms. Pelosi grandly declared.
Never mind that that statement is ludicrous: As any diplomat with knowledge of the region could have told Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Assad is a corrupt thug whose overriding priority at the moment is not peace with Israel but heading off U.N. charges that he orchestrated the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq al-Hariri. The really striking development
April 5th, 2007 at 2:52 pmPelosi has more class than the entire WH staff put together.
Come to think of it, her IQ would equal the collective IQ of WH staff.
6 years of BS by a retarded, alcoholic, drug-abusing spoiled little rich brat is enough. America is waking up on both sides of the fence now, and nothing will put an ‘R’ in the WH in ‘08.
Chew on that, trolls. You have a leader who was never legally elected too damn dumb to even speak english and the laughing stock of the planet.
Does that feel good?
If it does, you may need professional help. Jake, go talk to Dr. Phil, Bush’s personal psychologist. He’s just as dumb as Bush.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:52 pmFat Bastert visited Colombia during the Clinton Administration.
He told the Colombians they could bypass Clinton and deal directly with him.
He followed up on this, his staff directly dealt with Colombian narcotics police to get them funding and equipment.
Repukes are hypocrites and crooks.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pm#42 The Washington Post.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pmFor the record, the Korean WAR was a very real war — I was there!!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pm“I guess that also means Vietnam was not a “war†either now, according to the reality-based folks — so Jane Fonda is in the clear too!! Must be nice to live your little alternative-universe.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:46 pm”
Maybe it was, but it was not a war WE started….. We went in, like Korea, to ensure that the bad guys did not take over the innocent….
You keep on believing what the Republicans tell you…..
If the Korea and Vietnam wars were wars by the US, please show me where we started it and the DECLARATION of war from Congress…..
April 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pmEvery time the troll opens his mouth, shit pours out.
What a lying, inbred, moronic Repuke. Typical troll.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:54 pmFor the record, no REPUBLICAN Speaker of the House visited our enemies during a war — Comment by Jake
April 5th, 2007 at 2:54 pmThat’s because Republicans usually can’t find their way out of the country unless it’s paid for by lobbyists and are spending so much of their time sleeping with young boys and funneling tax dollars to their corrupt friends they have no time for diplomacy.
“I guess that also means Vietnam was not a “war†either now, according to the reality-based folks — so Jane Fonda is in the clear too!! ” jake
Soooo, Jane Fonda was speaker of the house? It’s good to see that jake spent his time away these past few days recharging his wingnut batteries.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:55 pmPatrick:
Do you believe that Speaker Pelosi should be arrested and tried for treason?
April 5th, 2007 at 2:55 pmi love this SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. esp because SHE scares the bejesus out of the loyal bushies (lookin’ at you, jake).
bwahahahahahaha
April 5th, 2007 at 2:55 pm“Syria is a new inductee in the Axis of Evil, in case you didn’t know. According to the Bush Doctrine, we are at war with terrorists and any State that harbors or supports them. George W. Bush: saving your ass, whether you like it or not.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:48 pm”
Unfortunately for YOU, Bush cannot declare war….. ONLY THE CONGRESS can do that….
But like Bush, you don’t give a rats ass about our Constitution.
You prefer a Dictatorship!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:55 pmPelosi can only fail. She and her ilk believe Bush is the terrorist! Her psycopathic fixation on Bush prevents her from seeing the big picture, and, in turn, diminishes the US around the world and gives fodder for terrorist/anti-US propoganda. Pelosi lies, troops die. Spock-fed libocrats must learn they can have anything they want, but not everything they want. Playing politics over the security of this country is pathetic and inexcusable. When others are trying to kill you it’s WAR, declared or not.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:56 pmNever mind that that statement is ludicrous: As any diplomat with knowledge of the region could have told Ms. Pelosi . . . . Comment by Patrick1 —
THIS from the party who has NO CLUE about foreign diplomacy? Who has smeared the reputation of the United States throughout the world?? Bwaaahahahahaaha!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:56 pmStupid trolls actually still believe the WaPo editorial page.
Those wacko WaPo editors have been thoroughly debunked on other issues and have now been debunked on their Pelosi smear.
What’s really funny is the WaPo editors obviously don’t read their own newspaper, where the news section regularly debunks their rants with the facts.
Stupid trolls. Go back under your bridge.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:56 pmWell, I guess somebody has to do Condoleezza Rice’s job for her, since Rice has no credibility whatsoever left.
And to Jake… since when, and why is Syria OUR enemy?
Are you sure that you aren’t confusing your loyalty to America with your loyalty to Israel?
April 5th, 2007 at 2:57 pmDemocrats: playing nice with our enemies ever since Benedict Arnold.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
You’re the enemy and we thought you were dead because you weren’t around for a couple days old fart. And we didn’t care.
That doesn’t seem like playing nice does it?
April 5th, 2007 at 2:57 pmGeorge W. Bush: saving your ass, whether you like it or not.
Should read George W. Bush: screwing over your country, whether you like it or not.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:58 pmJake is back kids. I guess sometimes things we think are dead only smell that way, like Jake!
Comment by Saywho — April 5, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
That’s that old man cheesey smell then, we can still hope next time he goes missing he won’t come back.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:59 pmDo you believe that Speaker Pelosi should be arrested and tried for treason? Comment by Jake
Like all the members of the White House who outed an undercover CIA agent because her husband made them look like idiots? Just like Papa Bush said: a treasonous act.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:59 pmNever mind that that statement is ludicrous
Comment by Patrick1
Ludicrous…which would describe every post you put on here.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:00 pmpatrickarmyof1 and jakeoff: Pelosi has bigger balls than both of you put together. With all your tough “lets go to war against all the arabs” talk, you guys demonstrate how small your dicks really are. Couple of wussies.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:01 pmThe effect of Pelosi’s visit isn’t important. What is important is that the MSM can come up with something rote about the visit that makes them sound authoritative.
If anything else were the case, the Washington Post would monitor U.S.-Syrian relations in the coming weeks and months, and admit at some point that their editorial was wrong.
Imagine that universe.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:01 pm“When others are trying to kill you it’s WAR, declared or not.
Comment by scruzman — April 5, 2007 @ 2:56 pm”
So when did Iraq attack the US????
The ONLY reason they are attacking us is because we are OCCUPYING thier land.
I would do the same thing if another country invaded the US, and I am sure you would too……
So please provide me with a link to documents that shows that Iraq attacked the US before we invaded them….
April 5th, 2007 at 3:02 pm#46: “Never mind that that statement is ludicrous: As any diplomat with knowledge of the region could have told Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Assad is a corrupt thug whose overriding priority at the moment is not peace with Israel but heading off U.N. charges that he orchestrated the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq al-Hariri. The really striking development”
that sort of trails off, doesn’t it? experiencing cut-and-paste problems? you should really use quotes if you cut and paste.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:02 pmThe British people thank you, Nancy Pelosi for doing what George W. and his British poodle Tony couldn’t. You are quite modest for not calling attention to it.
Syria played a key role in resolving the standoff over the 15 British sailors and marines held by Iran, two government officials said Wednesday
Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem told reporters that “Syria exercised a sort of quiet diplomacy to solve this problem and encourage dialogue” between Britain and Iran.
Al-Moallem, who also did not give any details on the Syrian mediation, spoke at Damascus international airport before the departure of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for Saudi Arabia.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pmFor the record, the President (and probably even the Vice President) can declassify CIA operatives — that’s not treason — what Pelosi did was. You also cannot indict a stitting President (or Vice President). Pelosi should be arrested as soon as she reaches the U.S.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pmDoesn’t any of these Pelosi bashers realize that 2 republicans met with Syrian officials 2 days earlier than Pelosi?
April 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pmYou guys are being played, and obviously you aren’t aware of it.
According to the Bush Doctrine
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
hahahahahahahaha, gasp, hahahahahahaha, Bush Doctrine, this is a put on right. Even your not this stupid. Maybe you are.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pmJake:
So when bush landed on the aircraft carrier and strutted over to the microphone to declare that “major combat operations are over” he declared the “war” over. So why are we at war with another country? I understand that in “bizarro world” when a stateless group of terrorists attack you, it’s ok to sort of go after them, then attack another country, so by that logic i guess you could say that since we’re not at “war” with iraq now we are at war with yet another country, even if we have diplomatic relations with them, and send them poeple we want tortured, and aren’t actually shooting at them, or using our military forces against them… How do you keep you head from exploding? do you just forget what you’re talking about or do you practice some form of postmodern ZEN meditation in which words don’t have meaning only sounds?
April 5th, 2007 at 3:04 pmit’s going to be hard to sustain the lies now the light of day has hit the fan
April 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pmPerhaps you missed our CiC landing on that carrier after major combat operations against Saddam were over? See you in a while, whiteyfresh : )
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
hahahahahhaaha, you mean “Mission Accomplished” hahahahahahaha. Why are we still there then?
April 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThe troll is now saying that Chimpy or Cheney declassified the status of CIA operatives.
What a lie. There has never been any assertion by the White House that they declassified Valerie Plame. There has never been any evidence or testimony to that in the Scooter Libby trial.
Jake, you’re a lying sack of shit. But that figures, you’re a Repuke.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pmBush committed treason. He’s also the President responsible for failing to prevent the worst terrorist attack ever to occur on U.S. soil. You guys must be very proud. I can see why you so vigorously defend the biggest fool ever to reside in the White House.
Have a nice day, troll morons!
April 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pm“Jake” seems to be on overdrive today. I don’t know what I find more entertaining: the reactionary slurs of Speaker Pelosi or the desperate spinning of the parallel trip made by GOP representatives.
Pelosi is doing what needs to be done. Why does she go? Because Dubya won’t. If we had a real president, you know, one who really understood diplomacy and foreign affairs, she could have rested comfortably in Washington DC or back in her home district instead.
Yes, Bashar al-Assad is a thug and the son of another thug. Yes, Syria is run by corrupt people who hate Israel and don’t like the US very much either. BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN’T TALK WITH THEM!!! Syria is an important player in the region. We cannot ignore them or sideline them for “bad behavior”. Syria is not our lapdog nor will they jump through hoops to please us.
The United States faced an existential threat during the Cold War with the USSR. The nuclear arsenal they held could have destroyed us 1000 times over. Yet we talked to them ALL THE TIME!! We had well-established diplomatic relations and several US presidents even went to Moscow on official visits! Just imagine if we applied the same doctrine back then that the Bushies want to apply now. Would there ever have been detente without diplomacy?
I applaud Speaker Pelosi for doing the right thing and meeting with al-Assad.
(BTW, if Pelosi decided to run for president, I’d vote for her over Hillary in a heartbeat!)
April 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pm” that’s not treason — what Pelosi did was.”
don’t forget issa:
“GOP Rep. Darrel Issa, who’s traveling to Syria, is smacking the Bush administration for opposing diplomatic engagement with that country.”
April 5th, 2007 at 3:09 pmSyria is a new inductee in the Axis of Evil,
Comment by JaketheSnake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Really? a new inductee? Kinda like Van Halen in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
April 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pmYou’re an idiot.
Tell me how and when we became at war with Syria.
Tell me how what Nancy Pelosi did is bad for our international relationships. Compare and contrast with what the Republicans did visiting there.
and finally,
Tell us all once again how a woman should enjoy her rape.
Idiot!
April 1: Reps. Frank Wolf (R-VA), Joseph R. Pitts (R-PA) and Robert Aderholt (R-AL) traveled to Damascus and met with Assad, two days before Pelosi’s scheduled trip.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a1YH6znT2Z10&refer=home
How does it feel to realize the extent to which the White House will lie to you?
April 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pmMcCain got 21 Iraqi merchants killed this week.
After he visited their market, gunmen dragged them out and shot them.
This disproves McCain’s assertion that Baghdad is safe and the surge is working.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pm“For the record, the President (and probably even the Vice President) can declassify CIA operatives — that’s not treason — what Pelosi did was. You also cannot indict a stitting President (or Vice President). Pelosi should be arrested as soon as she reaches the U.S.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 3:03 pm”
For the RECORD….. Your WRONG!!!!
In order to DECLASSIFY something, the declassification MUST be authorized by the ORIGINATOR……
Is Bush the Originator of Classifying Plame???? NO!!!!
So he can request that she is DECLASSIFIED, but the final say is the CIA…… (the originator)
This comes from a 20+ year ex-CIA who would know better than you, how declassification works….. No I am not referiing to me… I heard him on the radio, and he gave details about this and how declassification works……
The president can declassify what ever he wants, but that does not mean that it happens…… I must first be APPROVED by the ORIGINATOR.
Now go learn how our government works……. Bush is NOT KING, and there is a process for doing things like that.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pm“For the record, the Korean WAR was a very real war — I was there!!
Comment by Jake ”
Yet another lie from jake. If he’s served in the military he would have said so by now given all the challenges to join up and serve in Iraq that he’s recieved. Now he’s impersonating a soldier, (or marine). He just continues to sink deeper and deeper into his own filth.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pmI wonder how Jake and Patrick1 fare in an actual argument in front of people. It’s so much easier for them to rant BS here without having to look someone in the eyes while they spew their garbage.
State Dept. signed off on the trip. That’s Condi’s dept. so either she thinks it was ok to go or Condi’s the next one to have the knife plunged in her back.
Pelosi bugs the hell out of these mini turd blossoms.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:12 pmFor the record:
The Bush Doctrine is name given to a set of guidelines first unveiled by President George W. Bush in a speech given on June 1, 2002. The policies, taken together, outlined a broad new phase in US policy that would place greater emphasis on military pre-emption, military superiority (”strength beyond challenge”), unilateral action, and a commitment to “extending democracy, liberty, and security to all regions”. The policy was formalized in a document titled The National Security Strategy of the United States of America, published on September 20, 2002. The Bush Doctrine is a marked departure from the policies of deterrence and containment that generally characterized American foreign policy during the Cold War and the decade between the collapse of the Soviet Union and 9/11.
From now on, the U.S. would “make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them”. The immediate application of this policy was the invasion of Afghanistan in early October 2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine
GO WOLFOWITZ!
April 5th, 2007 at 3:12 pmIf we are at “war” with Syria, why do we have a US Embassy there?
If we are isolating Assad, why did TWO Repuke delegations visit him within the last week?
Jake is so full of shit it is oozing out his ears.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:13 pmBush is jealous that Pelosi is doing her job and doing it well.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pmjakeoff: “arrest Pelosi”? I am so pissed at your mom for dropping you on your head.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil#Definition – there are four current members.
See also, John Bolton’s speech “Beyond the Axis of Evil”
P.S. Freep Burp: none of those Representatives are Speaker of the House, SECOND IN LINE for the Presidency.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pm“From now on, the U.S. would “make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor themâ€. The immediate application of this policy was the invasion of Afghanistan in early October 2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_doctrine
GO WOLFOWITZ!
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 3:12 pm”
And yet Bush has NOT attacked Saudi Arabia…. Or Dubi….. 15 of the 19 “terrorists” were from SA, and Dubi laundered money for the “terrorists”……
I guess Bush is a big pu$$ie!!!!
Keep your mind closed to the FACTS and they will bite you in the a$$ one day Jake!
April 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pmAs I stated in my first posts, Mr. McCormack is simply being nice — or Pelosi / Reid will try to defund the State Department too — Sean probably doesn’t want to get subpoenaed either and harrassed to death by political SHOW TRIALS back here while Pelosi plays nice with our enemies ABROAD!
April 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pmThe trolls are freaking out because their beloved Chimp in Chief is losing it. Deep down inside, the trolls realize they backed an incompetent fool.
These trolls live in a fantasy bizarro world and cannot be brought back to their senses. You can’t talk facts to them, they discount the facts.
WE are in serious trouble because these 30%ers have been completely brainwashed into rabid librrul-haters who would follow Chimpy off a cliff.
Our nation has been split in two by Chimpy and his thugs.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:18 pmIf the REPUBLICAN Speaker of the House had done this during the Korean War, he would have been tried for treason and shot.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:18 pmDamascus Nancy….. As any diplomat with knowledge of the region could have told Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Assad is a corrupt thug……
Comment by Patrick1
Hey Patty, that’s a good shot at Pelosi. Maybe you ought to send it into Sean Hannity as it might catch on. And her trying to be diplomatic by talking with a corrupt thug. I mean, she ought to just switch parties and snuggle up Putin over in Russia. Bush has seen his heart, you know.
Or that pre-war darling of the right wing, Ahmed Chalabi and his BS and lies that helped us get into the Iraq War. Him, Cheney, and Wolfowitz were big buddies, you know, and Chalabi even managed to get himself set up for a while in the new Iraqi government. And Dick Cheney and his Halliburton empire? Or guys like Duke Cunningham?
Really, Patty, you shouldn’t leave yourself open mentioning “corrupt thug” around here or you could fill the blog with hundreds of Bush thug entries.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pm“there are four current members.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 3:15 pm”
Finally Jake has something right…..
Bush
Cheney
Rumsfeld
Rice
That makes four….. Everyone should give him a hand for finally realizing it……
Congrats Jake for waking up, or at least peaking through that cloud of Republican $hit!
April 5th, 2007 at 3:20 pmThis is how a troll gets his laughs. He does this because he thinks it’s like dangling raw steak in front of a Rottweiler. Want to make him sad? Ignore him.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:20 pmThe truth is that if Nancy Pelosi and others like her talk to Syria, constructive things will be done, averting confrontation. So put your fingers back in your ears reichwingers and chant something loud to drown out any words of real progress.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pm“From now on, the U.S. would “make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor themâ€.” = except for saudi arabia [see i.s.g. report] and pakistan [see musharaf's 'truce' with the frontier province tribes]
April 5th, 2007 at 3:22 pmPelosi should be arrested, tried for treason, and shot.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:22 pm“none of those Representatives are Speaker of the House, SECOND IN LINE for the Presidency.” = straw man
April 5th, 2007 at 3:22 pmJohn Bolton is an idiot. Congress refused to okay his appointment so Chimpy gave him a recess appointment.
Anybody who is quoting John Bolton to prove a point has already lost.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pmDuring REAL wars, people, there’s only ONE Commander-in-Chief!
What we need is a REAL Commander in Chief! Too bad Pelosi has to do the job! Bush should just stay on vacation for the rest of his term so the grown-ups can clean up after him.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pmPelosi should be arrested, tried for treason, and shot.
Comment by Jake
You should really get your doctor to re-evaluate your meds.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pmThey ain’t working……
Stupid troll.
Pelosi has broken no laws. She has not committed any crimes by visiting Assad, much less treason.
And a bunch of Repukes visited Assad this week too.
I notice the troll is not demanding the Repukes be shot too.
Go back under your bridge, stupid troll.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:25 pmnone of those Representatives are Speaker of the House, SECOND IN LINE for the Presidency.†= straw man
no to mention wrong. the vice president is second in line…but it’s not like jake ever needs facts to make an argument… what do you expect from a 25 year old repbulican hack who would lie and say he’s a korean war vet?
April 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pmOnly Pelosi gave aid and comfort to the enemy.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pm“Pelosi should be arrested, tried for treason, and shot.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 3:22 pm”
I believe Jake means Bush…….
After all…. It was Bush who did NOTHING on 9/11. By doing nothing he allowed 9/11 to happen, which is treason!!!!!
He knew it was coming and that it was going on, yet did NOTHING!!! AF1 was threatened using coded language on 9/11….. So it was a “inside job” and Bush was warned to do nothing, which is what he did. This is TREASON!!!!
Can you say TREASON??
We know Jake can, and his mind is probably confussing Pelosi with Bush….
April 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pmTommy – Stillllll misunderstanding the concept, and guarantee, of political Free Speech?? I’m beginning to think you are unteachable…..
Toooodles…..
April 5th, 2007 at 3:28 pmThe last thing Israel wants is peace. I mean the people do, but not the Likudites. They want TERRITORY. The only way to create the Greater Israel (Eretz Israel) is through what Ledeen calls TOTAL WAR.
Ask Myrav Wurmser (wife of Cheney’s top advisor on Middle East affairs) how bad she wants to bomb Iran.
These are all war mongers, plain and simple. All of them.
They want to own all of the land and resources and kill all of their enemies, only they want us to do it for them, provoked by false flag operations – Israel’s stock in trade.
Pelosi is a tool of AIPAC.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:28 pmPelosi should be arrested, tried for treason, and shot.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:29 pmComment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
OH, and you forgot “she should enjoy her rape
You
truly
are
an
IDIOT
Stupid troll.
Syria is not our enemy. We have a US Embassy there.
And a lot of Repukes have been visiting there this week.
Go back under your bridge, stupid troll.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:29 pmBushCo is scared stiff because Pelosi looks so presidential. If they were impeached, she’d be…PRESIDENT!
You go girl.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:29 pmjakeoff: You would shoot Pelosi without a CONVICTION, first. You are a classless asshat.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:30 pmStop responding to Jake. Take a step back and then come back here after an hour and look at the nonsense that we are arguing with. It is quite insane really. The trolls comments don’t even fit into a category other than comedy. They are very desperate to concoct a news story that isn’t there.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:32 pmThe republicans attempts to hijack foreign policy during the 90’s and their current fear at having their foreigh policy (if you can call such an abysmal failure a foreign policy) and their current manufactured dismay at Pelosi point to one thing only. The Rethugs are not now and never have acted in the best interests of the United States. Republicans only take care of other (rich) Republicans. George Bush, or Cheney or Issa or any other republican trash will never be good representatives of the US.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:32 pmVery mean hater baters today.
Bush has gone against his own doctrine. Pakistan hasn’t been attacked by us, either has Saudi Arabia.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:34 pmThe reason Bush’s base is so damn ignorant? They can’t read.
Oh, you CAN read?
Then READ COMMENT 83 AGAIN. Republicans were there 2 days before Pelosi!
So easy to dupe…and the republican party knows it.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:42 pmFor the record, the Vice President is first IN LINE — Speaker is second IN LINE — etc. I am neither 25 years old nor a Republican. I am also not going to defend my service to the nation from Korea to a bunch of punks here. Anyone ELSE (NOT on the “Ignore List”)?
April 5th, 2007 at 3:44 pmFreep Burp:
I responded to that already in post # 92.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:46 pmJake – that’s irrelevant, unless you’re easy to fool.
Where’s the call of treason? These are elected house representatives.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:52 pmHow about telling Ms. Pelosi to take the chip off her shoulder. She needs to willingly admit that she really overstepped the President and the State Department.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:53 pmIsn’t this whole thing about preserving the plan of PNAC written in the ’90’s? Go after Iraq, then Iran then Syria… and on page 51i n order for the American people to go along we needed a new Pearl Harbor ( 9/11 and someone please give me an accurate fact as to why building 7 went down). Pearl Harbor, Iraq went along as planned and isn’t Pelosi putting the breaks to Syria and hopefully Iran? Over 70% of our population is sick to death of all the mayhem want an end to the killingd and yet corporate owned con media is still out there ( who is paying them?) beating the PNAC drum.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pm“And Pollster.com says the Diageo Hotline poll coming out today has a generic Democrat beating a generic Republican 47%-29%.”
April 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pmAnd, none of them gave comfort and support to the enemy during wartime.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:56 pmRe 121
April 5th, 2007 at 3:56 pmI stand corrected on the issue presidential succession: I misread your post jake.
I stand by my assertion that you lie about your service.
Jake:
Shut Up!
Thanks
April 5th, 2007 at 3:58 pmFor the record, I think the person who posts as “unbelievable” (ironically) gave more than one fact as to why Bldg. 7 went down.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:58 pmJake – they gave aid and comfort just by being there. That’s using Bush’s own logic. They visited Syrian officials is Damascus, didn’t they? Yes they did. These are congressmen – they just happen to be republicans. And they beat Pelosi to the punch by 2 days.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:58 pmTrolls: “I know you are, but what am I?”
This is what happens when you take their bait. Ignore them and they’ll have to find someone else to annoy.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:59 pmActually, the troubling thing is that Syria has been at war with us for quite a few years. We just haven’t gotten around to reciprocating.
Anyhow, I really like the idea of having multiple foreign policies (and trade agreements). When that happens, we won’t ever need a President. Every Senator or member of the House or Representatives can negotiate with whomever they want and we can finally say goodbye to America. Thank you, Nancy! I have also heard that Florida would like to retake Cuba and, with this model, that can happen. California can then enter into trade discussions with Mexico and perhaps form a political relationship. The possiblities are endless! Who needs the Constitution anyway…it was probably written by some bitch white guy.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:00 pmYou want to be really mad at someone. Get PO’d at the State Dept. for allowing this trip. They supplied the fricking plane as well as signing off on it.
Let’s get that traitor Rice and anyone else who approved such a terrible display. I mean diplomacy? We haven’t had a need for that in 6 years. Nevermind there’s a US embassy in Syria and the review of all meetings have been looked at by the State Dept. showing that no boundaries were overstepped.
We can’t allow this type of communication and attempt to understand anybody else when there’s TERRORIST’s out there.
I can’t wait to hear from the Decider on this so he can fire Rice and throw her in Jail.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:00 pmFolks, learn how stupid the WHite House really believes you are. And in many cases, they’re absolutely right.
…….
Pelosi’s outreach to a state sponsor of terrorism is a “really bad idea,” White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said at a briefing in Washington. “Someone should take a step back and think about the message that it sends and the message that it sends to our allies.”
Perino’s remarks come as a group of Republican lawmakers has embarked on their own trip to Syria. Michael Lowry, a spokesman for Representative Robert Aderholt, said that the Alabama lawmaker will visit Syria as part of a Republican delegation led by Representative Frank Wolf, a Virginia Republican. Wolf is the top Republican on the House appropriations subcommittee that funds the State Department.
Perino wasn’t available to comment about that trip.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:01 pmThis post is meant as a rebuttal to a few points made by a certain lying, mindless troll:
Pelosi’s visit did not break the US embargo against Syria. The Bush administration has imposed trade, and banking sanctions against that country, but a visit from a foreign official does not break any “embargo”. This is one of the more ridiculous, laughable claims made lately.
A Republican delegation met with Syrian Pres. Hassan before Pelosi, so the previous claim about Pelos “breaking” an embargo looks even ridiculous -if that is possible.
Claims that a Representative should not visit the enemy in times of war are equally absurd: Syria is not at war with the US, the “global war on terror”, the “Axis of Evil”, and the Bush doctrine notwithstanding.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:01 pm“And, none of them gave comfort and support to the enemy during wartime.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 3:56 pm”
So when are you going to PROVE that we are at war????
Please provide me with the DECLARATION OF WAR provided by Congress…..
We were the agressors here….. We did not go to Iraq to help fight off some invading force, we are the invading force…
I won’t hold my breath for that proof though……
Show me the proof Jake. Show me a link to the Declaration of war by Congress……
If you can show me that, I will stand beside you 110%
April 5th, 2007 at 4:02 pm“I stand by my assertion that you lie about your service.”
you mean the “service” as in “mass”, as in “i attended a southern baptist catholic service”?
April 5th, 2007 at 4:02 pmThat’s correct #10.
And as to Condoleessa Rice, she is useless.
We as a nation should be as one when it comes to the troops, but all I can see is the Republicans protected their asses I mean assets.
For a party of the Religious, they lie, steal, cheat, dividing the country, and are pro war no matter what the cost is.
I am a Christian, but I do not belong to their kind of Christianity. If Christ tried to speak with these people, they would probably put him into Gitmo.
Back to the subject. First, Nancy is a strong leader and a woman and a Democrat. I know they truly hate that. Second, she is not afraid of them, and they truly truly hate that.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:03 pmHey Jake,
You and I completely agree. pelosi (small p) has no business trying to set U.S. foreign policy during a time of war. Yes, Republicans have gone to Syria to talk to Assad, but they are there REINFORCING and REITERATING the U.S. State Department position that Syria MUST stop it’s support and export of terror, not trying to solve a conflict that has gone on for time itself like pelosi is doing. She is completely overmatched in the arena of international politics and diplomacy but is on such a power trip she’s assuming she’s got some legitimate “alternative” to official policy. She’s mistaken.
We are NOT at war with Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan. We’re at war with a violent, fanatical ideology; one that IS supported by Syria and USED to be supported by Iraq. One that could and would kill every poster on this board, simply because we’re infidels. No hesitation, no second thoughts. This ideology resorts to killing fellow muslims, using children as suicide car bombers and they don’t hesitate to hide behind women when bullets are flying their way.
President Bush has done an excellent job in this war, (NO attacks since 9//11 in the U.S. except for lone, lunatic muzzies shooting up malls and running over college kids with SUV’s which due to leftist enforced politcal correctness the DHS refuses to label as “terrorism”) and he deserves our support.
When and IF the dems win in ‘08 (doubtful since she’s pissing off even moderate democrats who are liberal on most issues but who support the war on terror), they can set all the policy they want. She has made the mistake of taking a slim win in ‘06 and calling it a “mandate”. It’s a mandate which isn’t there except in the shallow minds of far-left moonbats.
Hang in there Jake, the best we can try and do is educate.
Thompson/Hunter ‘08
April 5th, 2007 at 4:03 pm#69 Q. “When did the Iraq attack the US.?” A. When they shot missles at our planes 1993-2003? When they snubbed theri noses at 17 UN resolutions. Anyhow, the point was not Iraq. It was anywhere but the US.
Libocrats derided Bush Sr. for not invading Baghdad and deride Bush Jr. for doing so. Go figger.
Jake, you got ‘em on the run.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:03 pmI posted this before in another thread, but it is relevant here too -
At this point, not even Republican Congressmen care what the Bush administration says. Or at least not when it comes to Syria:
“I don’t care what the administration says on this. You’ve got to do what you think is in the best interest of your country,” said Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va. “I want us to be successful in Iraq. I want us to clamp down on Hezbollah.”
3 Republicans part with Bush on Syria
Clearly, Rep Wolf has already separated love for his country from blind following of the Dear (mis)Leader; a concept the 30%ers have yet to wrap their teeny little minds around.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:06 pmFred Farkle, if republicans are really there for policy needs and Pelosi isn’t, what is the White House doing playing politics with peace? If what you say is true, then the republicans are putting party above country. That’s called treason in some circles.
Wise up already, you are way too easily fooled by this administration and by now you really should know better – it’s been 6 years of this, it’s at the point where everything they do is highly predictable and is always the diametric opposite of what’s best for american citizens.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:08 pmbob (not the hacker):
I could care less if you stand by an electric fence, pissing on it — you are a worthless piece of shit and I don’t need to defend my service to the likes of you — get lost, asswipe!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:10 pm“I really like the idea of having multiple foreign policies”
so did hastert as he rolled through south america in the late 90s.
“She has made the mistake of taking a slim win in ‘06 and calling it a “mandateâ€. It’s a mandate which isn’t there except in the shallow minds of far-left moonbats.”
really?:
“And Pollster.com says the Diageo Hotline poll coming out today has a generic Democrat beating a generic Republican 47%-29%.â€
and this is the best joke set-up i’ve seen on this site:
“Hang in there Jake, the best we can try and do is educate.
Thompson/Hunter ‘08″
comedy gold.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:10 pmoh noes! Jake brought his buddies Farkle and Scruzman!
There goes the neighborhood.
see ya in the funny pages, boys!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:11 pmPelosi’s Syrian visit came 2 days after 3 house REPUBLICANS made their Syrian visit
Yes, the media and the White House really do think you are this stupid.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:11 pmShort Jake, on the Bush doctrine:
Totaler Krieg – kürzester Krieg
All hail the Leader!!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pm“#69 Q. “When did the Iraq attack the US.?†A. When they shot missles at our planes 1993-2003? When they snubbed theri noses at 17 UN resolutions. Anyhow, the point was not Iraq. It was anywhere but the US.
Libocrats derided Bush Sr. for not invading Baghdad and deride Bush Jr. for doing so. Go figger.
Jake, you got ‘em on the run.
Comment by scruzman — April 5, 2007 @ 4:03 pm”
The mind of the right is something we should waste….
Did they EVER hit anyone of our planes???? NO!
By the way…. The UN is the one who has the LEGAL authority to allow another country to attack a soverigrn (SP) nation. By the AUMF, Bush was REQUIRED to get APPROVAL from the UN before attacking…….
I know that FACTS confuse the Republicans, but try to understand that Bush is a War Criminal and someday he and his administration will be held accountable for that.
PERIOD!
“Anyhow, the point was not Iraq. It was anywhere but the US.”
So now we can just consider ourselves to be GODS and attack anyone we desire….. You people are so sick, and I bet that most of you Republicans who armchair quarterback war have never served….. Chickenhawks is all you are.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:13 pmJake,
The Korean war was never a declared war, it was a “Police Action” if you had served in the conflict you would know this. (You would be aware of this even if you where old enough to have watched M.A.S.H.
on TV) You really don’t need to lie to make a point, even if it is wrong.
And for the record Vietnam was also an undeclared war and is also referred to as a Police Action.
Red Neck, did you even know where Damascus was before they handed out your talking points this morning?
TP and crew, great blog and great people, been reading for about a year now and enjoy it very much. Even the dumb as a post trolls that post here. Thankyou
April 5th, 2007 at 4:13 pm“I could care less if you stand by an electric fence, pissing on it — you are a worthless piece of shit and I don’t need to defend my service to the likes of you — get lost, asswipe!”
no!!! you lost your civility!! what will we tell the lurkers!!!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:13 pm[and if i remember correctly, you questioned kerry's service]
you k now, it’s funny, Tucker on MSNBC is spouting the same lies this acticle debunked over 2 hours ago..
April 5th, 2007 at 4:14 pmIf pelosi were there adamantly supporting the U.S. position, no problem. But she is trying to negotiate the peace between Israel and Syria which is a huge NO NO. That is for the CIC and the State Department. Now, tell me she didn’t do that to make W look bad..who is playing politics?
April 5th, 2007 at 4:14 pmComment by Fred Farkle — April 5, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
April 5th, 2007 at 4:14 pmI’m not sure if Fred’s post is a parody of JaketheRaper.
If it is, it’s pretty friggin’ funny.
If it’s not, it’s pretty friggin’ pathetic.
Well maybe, just maybe Bush might actually do his job. Bush is on vacation ALL the time. Everytime I read the news he is either out campaigning or on vacation. How many days has he been on vacation 365 X 7 years.
Bush must be the DO NOTHING guy sitting at 1600 Penn Ave.
Walter Reed
Katrina
Gas Prices
Income Inequality for Americans
And now we find out they were running election preparation inside the white house 24/7 for the past 7 years.
Republicans only really care about posturing republicans for elections. They don’t care about the peoples business.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:15 pmHang in there Jake, the best we can try and do is educate.
Comment by Fred Farkle
Looks like you are a bit lacking the educated thing yourself.
What is it with all these freek trolls today? Did they all get together and decide to stop taking their anti-psychotic meds today?
April 5th, 2007 at 4:15 pmSheesh…..
140/141
you guys are so out of the mainstream.
the state dept. is in a position to condemn her and her message. They have not and will not because it was within the bounds of our foreign policy.
Did you hear about when Hastert went to Colombia in the 90s as speaker of the house and told the military leaders there to ignore the whitehouse and deal directly with congress?
that’s was treasonous. but you guys are too dense and brainwashed- or paid a$$holes.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:15 pmpgw:
You can jump in the toilet right next to hacker bob too, for all I care. You’re damn right I am getting sick and tired of all your whiny-ass PINKOS!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:17 pmI could care less if you stand by an electric fence, pissing on it — you are a worthless piece of shit and I don’t need to defend my service to the likes of you — get lost, asswipe!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:17 pmComment by Jake(RapeisGood) — April 5, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Translation:
Dammit, you’ve caught me in another lie, and have seriously touched off a nerve.
so, I will now use my great debating skills I’ve learned, and yell
PISS OFF
Didn’t Iraq Study Group call for meetings? Geepers, didn’t the white house read those reports? Maybe they didn’t understand them. Above their reading and english abilities.
Or maybe Condi was out buying shoes.
Or maybe george was on vacation.
Or maybe Cheney was busy shooting someone.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:19 pm#58 Oh I am dying with that one — chastising Pelosi for playing politics with national security — why are you saying that? Concerned that she stole a page out of the Bush/Rove playbook — that’s all they have done. In case you missed it, the Iraq war was entirely a political play — pick on the weakest link of the “Axis of Evil” thinking easy victory, prance around the deck of a battleship in a flight suit with a sock stuffed in your crotch, declare victory, stir up the brain-dead masses’ nationalistic, military fetishism and install your delusional permanent Republican majority. Oh, except one thing — these dimwits forgot they had to actually govern.
Yeah, certainly no politics with national security there. Or haven’t you noticed those little color alerts staged at key times during the 2004 election have oddly disappeared. I am just hoping to find some fool who will wager and pay me one dollar everytime the IDIOT Monarch, George, invokes 9/11 as the wheels continue to come off his BS administration.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:19 pmwow Jake, you’re all ‘hot ‘n bothered’….
April 5th, 2007 at 4:20 pmYou asswipes prove to me where and when you served, and I’ll do the same — don’t tell me Korea wasn’t a WAR — I was there, punks!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:20 pm“Now, tell me she didn’t do that to make W look bad..who is playing politics?”
“W” makes “W” look bad.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:21 pmand Syria is not an enemy in wartime jake the 25 year old is too stupid to understand that though. he’d (if that is his real gender, he’s lied about everything else) rather repeat the same thing over and over again, until he gets what he wants, like he did 10 years ago when he wanted to stop at McDonald’s during a road trip. It’s his parents’ fault i guess.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:22 pm“You can jump in the toilet right next to hacker bob too, for all I care. You’re damn right I am getting sick and tired of all your whiny-ass PINKOS!”
that hurts…until i remember the time you said that jesus pleaded the 5th. then it doesn’t hurt because i’m laughing
April 5th, 2007 at 4:23 pmRepublicans ” govern” or “oversight” ..please help help me…..what is that. I never had to do that over the past 7 years.
I being a Republican don’t understand those concepts.
All I understand is lie, cheat,kill, steal.
The isolated republicans.
RepublicanS on VACATION till 1/2009
April 5th, 2007 at 4:24 pmKatrina The response to Katrina was the responsibility of the State of Louisiana and local New Orleans “leadership” first and foremost. The Federal Government – Bush – wanted to Federalize the National Guard and move in immediately (before the storm hit). Blanco sat on her a*s for 2 days before she said no..
Gas Prices - Ever hear of the free market? That’s what determines oil/gas prices
Income Inequality for Americans – Get an education, apply yourself, make correct decisions and the income goes up. Do drugs, get pregnant, don’t study and you get the bed you made and live on welfare.
Walter Reed – The Secretary of the Army resigned and the CO was fired. What more do you want?
April 5th, 2007 at 4:25 pmYou asswipes prove to me where and when you served, and I’ll do the same — don’t tell me Korea wasn’t a WAR — I was there, punks!
Comment by Jake
Seem to remember you saying you served in WWII before. Kinda like you saying you were catholic, then a few days you were Babtist.
Your a lying scumbag
What was your MOS, if you served, Jake-ass?
April 5th, 2007 at 4:26 pmDemocrats: playing nice with our enemies ever since Benedict Arnold.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
Pretty good, Jake, considering that the Democratic Party wasn’t around in 1789, DUMBA**. Study your history.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:27 pm“You asswipes prove to me where and when you served, and I’ll do the same — don’t tell me Korea wasn’t a WAR — I was there, punks!
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 4:20 pm”
OK….
Ft. Jackson – Basic Training 1988
Ft. Gordon – AIT 1988
Camp Humphries Korea – 1989-1990
Ft. Drum NY 1990-1991; 10th Mountain
Now dipshit!!!! Provide your posts and companies you were attached to.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:27 pmSorry guys I must go now and clean some BRUSH, so I can better understand my job to govern.
Well it is off to “rabbiting”, till jan 2009.
BUSH on VACAATION till 2009 !
April 5th, 2007 at 4:27 pmAsswipes, punks, pinkos. Dad, is that you? I’ve been looking for you long time now.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:28 pmtell me she didn’t do that to make W look bad..
Comment by Fred Farkle — April 5, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Every time I read something like this I have to smile.
Since when does Pres Bush need help to look bad? He has made a disaster out of his most important policy goals -unless, that is, you still think things in Iraq are going “swimmingly”, and that the US is “winning” the Global War on Terror.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:28 pmFor the record, no REPUBLICAN Speaker of the House visited our enemies during a war — Harry S Truman would have rightly arrested Joseph William Martin and had him tried for treason had he gone to Korea during that (â€notâ€) war too.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Jake – What about the THREE GOP Congressman in Syria earler this week? What about the GOP Congressmen going along with Pelosi??
Say it with me now… HYPOCRITE!!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:29 pmAnd, none of them gave comfort and support to the enemy during wartime.
Jake,
Show me a G**da** DECLARATION OF WAR PASSED BY CONGRESS against SYRIA or shut you f***in pie-hole!
If we have an embassy there, if members of BOTH PARTIES engage in diplomatic visits, then WE CAN’T BE AT WAR WITH THEM. It’s basic political science (I should know – I got a B.A. in the subject in college with an emphasis on international relations and American government).
The fact you want Pelosi arrested for going on a trip APPROVED by the White House and the U.S. State Department proves how OUT-OF-TOUCH with reality you are!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:29 pmNo, that’s wrong, I was the one who served in WWII and I’m a Catholic — see how easy it is to FAKE someone else’s posts?!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:30 pmMan, it’s never pretty to observe a NeoCON just lose it and break down. But just like a horrific accident on the highway, you just have to look!
Captain Kirk did the same thing on another thread.
All I can say is….PRICELESS!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:30 pm“Walter Reed – The Secretary of the Army resigned and the CO was fired. What more do you want?”
mold is awesome, especially when you’re recovering from an injury you’ve suffered in iraq. you are the master of parody.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:31 pmSince when does Pres Bush need help to look bad? He has made a disaster out of his most important policy goals -unless, that is, you still think things in Iraq are going “swimmingly†As a matter of fact I do. All we ever get out of the liberal MSM is horror stories; the good news never makes it, and that the US is “winning†the Global War on Terror.As a matter of fact I believe we are, one dead terrorist at a time
April 5th, 2007 at 4:33 pmOh Fredy,here fredy dear…….
Oil Bottom matches first step of war. Check date..”educate” those brain cells. Try stem cells “ditz” works great for the brain.
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?vol=Y&jav=adv&grid=Y&org=stk&sym=CLK7&data=H&code=BSTK&evnt=adv
April 5th, 2007 at 4:33 pmShe’ll always have Sryia.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:33 pmRemoveBush:
Fort Lewis, July 1950, 60th Signal Service Company — Pusan, Seoul, and Pyongyang during the WAR — later I ended up at Inchon and at the First Tokyo Arsenal. Then I was transferred to Kyoto, Japan. I left there in and was shipped home to Ft. Carson, Co. until my discharge.
You are back on the Ignore List now, asswipe!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:35 pmAs a matter of fact I do. All we ever get out of the liberal MSM is horror stories; the good news never makes it, and that the US is “winning†the Global War on Terror.As a matter of fact I believe we are, one dead terrorist at a time
Comment by Fred Farkleneffinger — April 5, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
See? right there? I called it! A parody! Plain as the zit on Jake (I like Rape)’s nose!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:36 pmreporting Jake-ass for posting under my name
Scumbag
April 5th, 2007 at 4:39 pmOh fredy…come out and play with me….
Here is the commodity chart going back yrs…..do you see the screaming inflation……..oh well there goes the food prices to the moon.
hope you enjoy the ride………..weeeeeeeeee
wars act like a massive back end TAX and ALL commodities show same. And guess what you and you and you are paying for it …………..the american people.
BUt they voted on 11/6 and stated no thanks. remove george bush.
Happy easter fredyyyyyyyyyyyy
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?vol=Y&jav=adv&grid=Y&org=stk&sym=CIJ7&data=H&code=BSTK&evnt=adv
April 5th, 2007 at 4:39 pm“You are back on the Ignore List now, asswipe!
Comment by Wayne — April 5, 2007 @ 4:35 pm”
It would APPEAR that “Jake” is also “Wayne”……
Wayne, or is it Jake, or what ever you are calling yourself…..
So when did the US declare WAR in Korea????
Provide me with that information….. It was a WAR between the North and South, but it was NOT OUR WAR!!!!
Provide the evidence or I’ll call your boss Dick and have you waterboarded…..
April 5th, 2007 at 4:39 pmComment by Fred Farkle — April 5, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
So the 2 million Iraqis that have fled to neighboring countries, and the 1.5 or so million Iraqis displaced internally, are a testament to the success of Bush’s Iraq policy?
Before you tell me about “MSM horror stories”, here are links to the
April 5th, 2007 at 4:41 pmInternational Rescue Committee, and to the UN’s High Commissioner for Refugees. I suggest you read the information before talking about any “good news” and “successes” of the Bush administration in Iraq.
You asswipes prove to me where and when you served, and I’ll do the same — don’t tell me Korea wasn’t a WAR — I was there, punks!
Comment by JakeRape — April 5, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
Please note the time the issue was challenged!
After a namejacking, this was supplied:
Fort Lewis, July 1950, 60th Signal Service Company — Pusan, Seoul, and Pyongyang during the WAR — later I ended up at Inchon and at the First Tokyo Arsenal. Then I was transferred to Kyoto, Japan. I left there in and was shipped home to Ft. Carson, Co. until my discharge.
You are back on the Ignore List now, asswipe!
Comment by Wayne(Actually Jake the Raper) — April 5, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
It took Jake 15 minutes to “google”
April 5th, 2007 at 4:43 pmA record of somesorts, I’m sure!
#149. Sooooo – if I understand you right -shooting and not hitting our planes is not an attack; shooting and hitting our planes, conversely, would have been an attack and you would have supported Bush? (Note:
#150 Police Action…War…same bullets…same results. What’s the dif?
BDS rules!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by RemoveBush
See post 185
April 5th, 2007 at 4:45 pmI already reported Jake’s violation of the TP’s terms of use.
DRxJ-you GOTTA love that. I noticed too!
:)
April 5th, 2007 at 4:47 pm“You asswipes prove to me where and when you served, and I’ll do the same — don’t tell me Korea wasn’t a WAR — I was there, punks!
Kind of like Iraq these days: a civil war. Still not declared by Congress, though.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:49 pmSend all Republicans to Iraq. Including
K Street Lobby
Defense Contractor CEO
Republicans House Members
Republican Senate Members
and any and all US ciitizens that WANT and or support this Iraq civil war who are WILLING to wear the boots on the ground in the front lines.
Report for duty and be KILLED!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:50 pmNot only are you a liar, a fake, a namejacker, and a total turd, Jake Rape, you also steal your posts from true American Heroes
Please follow this link, and read Mr. Johnson’s story
http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/60sigsvc.htm
You’ve been outted, MORON
April 5th, 2007 at 4:51 pm“#149. Sooooo – if I understand you right -shooting and not hitting our planes is not an attack; shooting and hitting our planes, conversely, would have been an attack and you would have supported Bush? (Note:
Comment by scruzman — April 5, 2007 @ 4:45 pm”
Not when we are flying over their country….
If we are there without permission, then we are in the wrong! Were our planes authorized by the Iraqi government to fly over thier air space?????
Care to tell me what would happen if USSR had flown over America during the cold war????? We probably would have shot at them too…..
Sorry, but your drivel is just that…….
April 5th, 2007 at 4:51 pm“See post 185
I already reported Jake’s violation of the TP’s terms of use.
Comment by Wayne — April 5, 2007 @ 4:45 pm”
Got it, THANKS….
April 5th, 2007 at 4:51 pmIt took Jake 15 minutes to “googleâ€
A record of somesorts, I’m sure!
Comment by DRxJ
And he still hasn’t provided his MOS.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:52 pm“Comment by DRxJ — April 5, 2007 @ 4:51 pm”
BOOM!!!
Good find!!!!
The little twit is just a lying sack of Bush!!!!
April 5th, 2007 at 4:54 pmYou’ve been outted, MORON (Jake-ass)
Comment by DRxJ
Good catch, what a scumbag, he cut directly from the post there.
The sorry b*stard.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:58 pmEhud Olmert actually said that Pelosi said the wrong message, its not conservative spin.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:58 pmgotta go
April 5th, 2007 at 4:59 pmlater!!!
140 Jake=Fred Farkle
No attacks since 9/11 because PNAC did not call for a second Pearl Harbor….
April 5th, 2007 at 4:59 pmYou’ve been outted, MORON
Comment by DRxJ — April 5, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Ouch!!
What a fantastic find! Great job, DRxJ!
If Jake had any credibility left, your post should be the nail in the coffin.
I suspected a 25yo liar from the time someone else found his Catholic/Southern Baptist flip-flop.
April 5th, 2007 at 4:59 pmI am amazed at some of the negative, fox news like comments made by some to Pelosi’s visit.
First let’s assure ourselves that this administration has twisted the truth and lied to get us into a war of choice, not one of necessity…Evidence of this is the false claims that Niger sold fissionable materials to Iraq and
the Downing Street memo of 2002.
Our media never pressed these issues…Scared of being falsely accused as traitors or just lackeys of the big corporations that own them I am noit sure. The world knows that we were fooled to go to war and
they don’t trust Bush. Wake up people, fox news ignorant people.
But Pelosi represents a fresh voice, a voice of a U.S. leader that the world might believe.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:00 pmAS SPEAKER NANCY SAID, “white house, state department, CHIMPya, FRANKENCheney, Bushland Uber Allies, Kristol, Malveaux, Williams, The Washington Post(tm), ALL YOU repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank fudge-pachyderms and swift-boat-shit-smearers, PUT UP OR SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!”
April 5th, 2007 at 5:00 pmNice going Jake – name stealing
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
By the way Wikpedia is a collection of information from anybody who want to post there. It is not the definitive answer on anything. The other day they posted that a comedian was dead who let them know he is very much alive.
Wikpedia told you about the “Bush Doctrine” what a fool.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:01 pm#196 OK. Your right. I give up. Can’t respond to the logic here: You would support Bush if we were attacked by Iraq (hit) while flying over another country. As to your USSR hypothetical: I agree. You’re right: The USSR would have needed to get permission to fly over our country so we wouldn’t shoot them down. Ya gotta love liblogic. Are you just having a bad day, or is this normal for you?
April 5th, 2007 at 5:05 pmAS SPEAKER NANCY SAID, “white house, state department, CHIMPya, FRANKENCheney, Bushland Uber Allies, Kristol, Malveaux, Williams, The Washington Post(tm), ALL YOU repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank fudge-pachyderms and swift-boat-shit-smearers, PUT UP OR SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!â€
ROFL..with that I’ll leave for the time being..if that’s the best you’ve got, go get some milk and cookies and make sure mommy tucks you in tonight or else the boogie man will get you..
April 5th, 2007 at 5:06 pmJake you ass
Pelosi went to Syria to ask them not to send there terrorist out when Bush attacked Iran. Because Syria has terrorist and would not be happy if that happened.
Bush was dying to attack Iran – but Syria worked with them to get them to release the Brits. Whatever caused the release, whether it was Syria as they claim and Pelosi along with the non-neocon Republicans influencing them or not. Diffusing the tense situation in Iran is a good thing.
Bush is so psychotic that no matter how many people told him how dangerous it would be to do that his trigger finger was itching to invade Iran. That’s what he’s so mad about and that’s why this tirade agains Pelosi has been unleashed. Strictly because his new war plans have been foiled.
If you were ANY KIND OF AMERICAN you would realize that us not having confrontations with Iran and Syria is a good thing.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:11 pmROFL..with that I’ll leave for the time being..
Comment by Fred Farkle — April 5, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
What? So soon?
You still haven’t begun to explain how close to 4 million Iraqi war refugees (aka “displaced”) can be held as proof of Pres Bush’s success, and that things are going “swimmingly” in Iraq.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:12 pm“#196 OK. Your right. I give up. Can’t respond to the logic here: You would support Bush if we were attacked by Iraq (hit) while flying over another country. As to your USSR hypothetical: I agree. You’re right: The USSR would have needed to get permission to fly over our country so we wouldn’t shoot them down. Ya gotta love liblogic. Are you just having a bad day, or is this normal for you?
Comment by scruzman — April 5, 2007 @ 5:05 pm”
Your not very smart are you, and you CAN’T READ!!!
I never said flying “over another country”!!! Please show me where I said that!!!
I said that we were flying over IRAQ’s airspace without permission…….
I gave the example of the USSR so your simple mind could comprehend how a country, such as the US, would respond to another country entering their airspace without permission.
Your logic is…… The dog pissed on the couch, so I’m going to beat the wife….
April 5th, 2007 at 5:12 pmComment 207 about comment 205 is just another example of the twisted truth and lies of the fox news types –you know the fair and balanced ones…You’ve been trained well.
Tell the American people mistruths and lies often enough and they will
sound like truths. Sounds like the tactics of a demagogue, you know like Hitler…
The Downing Street memo was published in Europe first and the British government did NOT deny their authenticity…
April 5th, 2007 at 5:13 pmNow, tell me she didn’t do that to make W look bad..who is playing politics?
Comment by Fred Farkle — April 5, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Nobody needs to make W look bad. That’s the one job he can handle all by himself. If he was so worried about Pelosi’s trip why isn’t he speaking out about it? Oh too busy messing with the constitution making “emergency appointments” and cutting brush.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:20 pmHey you retards that keep saying its a conservative lie that Pelosi screwed up a diplomatic message from Israel to Syria:
Pelosi did not carry any message from Israel to Assad
By Yoav Stern and Amiram Barkat, Haaretz Correspondents and AP
The Prime Minister’s Office has strongly denied that Israel relayed a message to Syria, accepting its calls to renew peace negotiations.
The bureau responded to questions raised yesterday by a statement made by U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, following a meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad. Pelosi said she had relayed a message from Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, to the effect that Israel was ready for peace talks with Syria.
The Prime Minister’s Office was quick to issue a denial, stating that “what was discussed with the House speaker did not include any change in Israel’s policy, as it has been presented to international parties involved in the matter.”
Make sure you actually find out what the Israeli government is saying itself before you yell out anti-Bush slogans.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:23 pm“Make sure you actually find out what the Israeli government is saying itself before you yell out anti-Bush slogans.
Comment by Marko — April 5, 2007 @ 5:23 pm”
It appears that we have another Kool-aid keg drinker here folks…..
You believe that??? You actually believe ANYTHING Isreal says or Bush????
PPPLLLLLLEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEE
I don’t believe a word any of them say!
So before you go calling people “anti-Bush”, why don’t you do a little research?????
Bush is a TRAITOR!!!!
He was warned about 9/11, and he did nothing…. TREASON!
Yet you blindly support him…… Oh, and just so you have some FACTS….. Here you go!
Fox News Sunday, 23 Sept 2001, Tony Snow: “Sept. 11 there was a report that there was a coded message that said, “We’re going to strike Air Force One†that was using specific coded language and made the threat credible. Is that true?
• Condoleezza Rice: “That is true…. I will tell you that it was plenty of evidence from our point of view to have special measures taken at that moment to make sure the president was safe.â€
• http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/nation/specials/attacked/transcripts/foxtext092301.html
Sept. 13, 2001, White House briefing:
• Reporter: “Can you confirm the substance of that threat that was telephoned in…that Air Force One is next and using code words?â€
• Ari Fleisher (Press secretary): “Yes, I can. That’s correct.â€
• At Sept. 26th briefing, asked again about this, Fleisher said “I’m not going to comment on any particular threats coming toward the White House.â€
• This matter needs further investigation, for such person(s) with top-secret information may still be a threat to the President and others…
• Tarpley discusses a large body of evidence and concludes:
“The official version of 9/11 says that the attacks came out of a distant cave in Afghanistan. But it makes more sense to explore networks and agencies which have means, motive, and opportunity, as well as a track record of advocating and promoting large-scale violence.â€
How in the world does a group of terrorists obtain the code words for AF1???? So you see, it was performed by our government and Bush was warned to just let it happen and do nothing or he was next. By his doing NOTHING, he is a party to the crime and that is TREASON!!!!
April 5th, 2007 at 5:33 pmMarko, you are quiet the asshat yourself. Pelosi didn’t state anything other than Israel’s policy. Read the links before jumping in. The link in the original post states she didn’t give a conflicting message.
So why don’t you make sure your have the information digested before you yell out any Bush no wrong songs.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:34 pm#212 Liblogic got me again. I guess one could be flying over the ocean as well as another country; if you’re not over Iraq, you’re either over another country, or over the ocean, aren’t you? Whether the ocean or another country, I’m happy that you would now support Bush no matter where we got attacked.
Seriously now, no-flyzones were established by the UN obviating the need for Iraq’s ‘permission’.
If the USSR flew planes over our country, we would be at war – unless our missles missed – then we wouldn’t, according to liblogic.
Dog pissing = Wife beating? My simple mind? Puleese. Pretty Pelosi Puleese.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:44 pmThe leaders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad think that Pelosi’s doing a fine job:
Thanks Nancy.
April 5th, 2007 at 5:46 pmGiven the numerous foreign policy-related powers assigned to Congress, it would be unAmerican to suggest that members of Congress shouldn’t meet with foreign leaders so they can do their Constitutional job.
So all Pelosi’s detrqctors can STFU. As long as they allow the president to be the “sole organ” for actual negotiations, there is no reason why members of congress shouldn’t go to foreign countries to gather facts, deliver messages, establish relationships, etc..
The Constitution gives Congress a much greater number and variety of foreign policy related powers than it does the President:
Congress’s Powers:
1) To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations
2) To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations
3) To declare War,
4) grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal,
5) make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
6) To raise and support Armies
7) To provide and maintain a Navy;
8) To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
9) To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
10) To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such
11) the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Compare that to the one foreign policy related power of the President:
1) The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States
The President shares other some powers with Congress:
1) He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;
2) and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States
April 5th, 2007 at 5:47 pmOnly one letter’s difference from Jake to Joke – only one letter’s difference (and a bit of rearranging) between Jake and Jerk. You sure you’ve got your name spelled Right?
April 5th, 2007 at 5:48 pmSorry: LINK
April 5th, 2007 at 5:49 pm[...] Pelosi Challenges White House: If I Gave Syria The Wrong Message, Prove It Republican Congressman Darrell Issa Currently In Syria For Talks Washington Post Misleads, [...]
April 5th, 2007 at 5:55 pm“Seriously now, no-flyzones were established by the UN obviating the need for Iraq’s ‘permission’.
If the USSR flew planes over our country, we would be at war – unless our missles missed – then we wouldn’t, according to liblogic.
Dog pissing = Wife beating? My simple mind? Puleese. Pretty Pelosi Puleese.
Comment by scruzman — April 5, 2007 @ 5:44 pm”
So when an arguement fits your need, the Repubs will use the UN laws as an OUT!!!
But you REFUSE to acknowledge that the SAME UN states that a Soverign nation CANNOT invade another soverign nation without UN APPROVAL!!!!
So by YOUR logic….. Bush committed a WAR CRIME!!!
I’m glad to see that you are in agreement with that!!!
Thanks for playing…….
Bush = WAR CRIMINAL!!!
April 5th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWow. The quantity of ill informed uneducated trolls went through the roof on this post. Someone must be a little woried about the fallout from the two republican delagations that just met with Syrian leadership.
April 5th, 2007 at 7:02 pmAttention Republican Morons:
Congress hasn’t declared war on Syria. Neither has anybody else.
P.s. Bush is a contemptible failure, by any measure.
April 5th, 2007 at 7:06 pm#223 Q.”So when an arguement fits your need, the Repubs will use the UN laws as an OUT!!! A. You bet your butt I will. I’ll use anything I can get!
Q. “But you REFUSE to acknowledge that the SAME UN states that a Soverign nation CANNOT invade another soverign nation without UN APPROVAL!!!! A. Apples & Oranges. I think 17 sanctions are enough. How many more sanctions would you give before you gave up on the UN and asked permission from Saddam so you could fly over their country so they could fire missles that wouldn’t hit us so we wouldn’t be at war? I need an asprin.
Q. So by YOUR logic….. Bush committed a WAR CRIME!!!” A. You got me there. Your liblogic is irrefutable. Bush is the devil because he decided it was better to fight terrorists ‘over there’ rather than ‘over here’. How dare that man!
April 5th, 2007 at 7:08 pmoh please. Bush is a liberal piece of crap anyways. He hasnt done one thing that he said he would have. Iraq war? so what Congress ok’ed that. To make arguements otherwise is stupid. If Bush had one shred of rationale, he would have put in 3 times the number of troops and really secured Iraq, not 180,000 and hope things go smoothly.
April 5th, 2007 at 8:34 pmComment by Ringo #219
Comment by scruzman #226
Comment by Marko #227
scuzzy, ringworm and mark,
…your god Bushiva is an inbred idiot, coward and deserter…
…He’s dumb, greedy and TREASONOUS…
…but you three are…
…DUMBER, GREEDIER and even MORE TREASONOUS…
…that Patriot Act may come in handy yet in ‘08…
April 5th, 2007 at 9:42 pmPraise Doctor Pelosi!
We love you here in Syria! May your wisdom and Ronald McDonald like smile spread happiness through the lands like fleas on hotdog!
Eventually the west will fall and we will rule. Of course we will let most of the Dems live….mostly.
April 6th, 2007 at 2:03 am#229 – You sound like a Republican.
April 6th, 2007 at 9:03 am[...] year when he was abroad monitoring the Palestinian elections…while the white house attacks Nancy Pelosi for going there while Republicans who are there now, including Daryl Issa seem to get no action [...]
April 6th, 2007 at 10:29 am#228 big papa
Thank you for posting a comprehensive consolidation of libthought on this thread. You said it all!
Adios
April 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmJake wrote: “Democrats: playing nice with our enemies ever since Benedict Arnold.”
Democrat Franklin Roosevelt played nice with the Nazis? I’d better ask five-deferment Cheney about that. Or Donald “I shook Saddam Hussein’s hand” Rumsfeld.
Wasn’t Benedict Arnold a Tory? That is, a conservative?
April 7th, 2007 at 10:12 amGeorge W. Bush: saving your ass, whether you like it or not.
Comment by Jake — April 5, 2007 @ 2:48 pmâ€
Saving our ass!?! Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaa
Puppet-boy was AWOL (again) from his job and let 9/11 happen, the worst significant attack on our nation in almost 60 years. If he wasn’t AWOL, he would have heeded his intelligence alerts, and, at a minimum, stepped up airport security based on the August 6, 2001 PDB alone.
And you call that “saving your ass” ? Bwahaaaaaaaaaahaaaa.
This loser Bush is out to save one thing, and one thing only; the tattered remnants of a destroyed Bush legacy….., like that airhead had much of a chance anyway. He’s a punk, and innocent U.S. troops are dying for the Bush name, and not our country.
April 7th, 2007 at 12:39 pmGeorge Bush is not saving my ass or your ass either. First he failed to stop the 9/11 attack (though Pentagon officials canceled flight reservations they had for that day), then he let bin Laden escape at Tora Bora, then he lied us into a war in Iraq that has strained our army and actually increased terrorism. He insulted our military by sending our soldiers into battle without sufficient armor, has cut veterans’ benefits, and now the Walter Reed fiasco. Meanwhile bin Laden mocks us. That’s not protecting my ass. Bush has been as incompetent about this “war” as he has about everything else like Katrina, and exposing CIA covert agent who had a mole inside Iran. There is no reason to trust him about anything. Least of all winning this war. Can’t wait for the $4 a gallon gas, that’ll truly be “Mission Accomplished” for that joker and Cheney.
April 7th, 2007 at 2:45 pmGeorge Bush is not saving my ass. He is stealing my treasury. He is sending my fellow citizens to kill and die for his corporate sponsors. He is destroying our military. Pelosi and Dean are saving my ass.
April 8th, 2007 at 9:57 am[...] Gregory’s “he-said-she-said” treatment of the issue, the facts are clear. No one with knowledge of Pelosi’s meeting with Syrian officials — Pelosi, the members of her bipartisan delegation, and the State Department — has [...]
April 9th, 2007 at 10:47 amWhy do so many right-wing dckwads troll this site? Thinkprogress is a progressive organization… can’t the trolls stay in their little Hannity sandbox?
April 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pmI am stunned by the ignorance of all here!
April 11th, 2007 at 12:02 pm