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Showdown on immigration: Geraldo v. O’Reilly.»

Bill O’Reilly loses the argument and then loses his temper. Oliver Willis has the details. Watch it:

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  1. radzikowski Says:

    Wow.
    Inasmuch as I hate to admit it…Go Geraldo. Bill just never gets it.


  2. George Says:

    Is he in ratings trouble or something? What a joke.

    Someone deport O’Reilly to Insaneville.


  3. Jay Randal Says:

    LOL Geraldo and O’Reilly fighting each other? Oh boy the GOPers are eating each other now.


  4. radzikowski Says:

    #1 I agree…and as we know careful isn’t in his nature…~~fingers crossed~~


  5. mongo Says:

    This had to be staged.

    Ratings must be in the tank; murdoch has told o’lielly to just go with it in his interviews–don’t hold back, bill, get the juices flowing.

    His viewership eats this shit up.


  6. s Says:

    Bill, in my view, way way way down… gets it. That’s why he’s so evil. He knows he lost the argument ….why?…because he gets it. He wasn’t able to stoke the witch hunt bonfire under all immigrants. He is absolutely screwed to the wall bad. Scared, dishonest, and bad


  7. Apple Says:

    W.O.W.! That’s real. Geraldo come back to the light.


  8. I WORFEUS Says:

    :|

    And they call us moonbats?


  9. Enuff Already!! Says:

    Cmon you cant believe that this wasn’t planned.

    Geraldo has been Fauxed for years. They more than likely went out, had plenty of drinks. sexually harassed a few of their studio producers, and then gave away troop positions to the hookers they picked up.

    A joke both of them

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  10. mongo Says:

    Lord, don’t say “go geraldo”; these two yoyos are cut from the same bolt of cloth.

    A good thing is that they’re now yelling at each other; one can only hope for simultaneous on-air heart attacks.


  11. I WORFEUS Says:

    When he gets mad like that, and pounds his fist, Oreilly makes a pretty good Hitler impersonater.


  12. Saywho Says:

    That people was an ACT and some FUD LOL


  13. Saywho Says:

    Geraldo v. O’Reilly round 1 was the other night about Rosie O


  14. I WORFEUS Says:

    This had to be staged.

    Comment by mongo — April 5, 2007 @ 10:09 pm

    No way.

    Oreilly’s not that good of an actor.

    What you just witness was that reich wing rage we all know is lying just beneath the surface.

    We should take them all, Geraldo too, toss em in a cage and let them kill each other.

    They could put it on Pay Per View.


  15. Jimbo Says:

    THIS IS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!

    NOW THESE BIRDS ARE ABOUT TO OUTSOURCE
    AMERICAN TRUCKER JOBS BY MAY 1, 2007,

    JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT… THE BUSH-KENNEDY
    PLAN OF FTAA

    WHEN OH WHEN ARE THESE POLITICAL PARASITES GOING
    TO STOP BEING TWO FACED… PAY THEM 50% AND THEY
    OUTSOURCE YOUR JOB, WHAT A BUNCH OF CORRUPTION


  16. Snowball Says:

    Two gutless cowardly corporate pre$$titutes with no principles going after each other for political theater. Who cares? Geraldo was hired by Fox for the same reason that Alan Colmes was, to be ritual hate objects like Emmanuel Goldstein in Orwell’s 1984.


  17. JPV Says:

    Watch a couple of tools.


  18. Blackacre Says:

    Look at Billy trying to get higher ratings by acting like a tough guy. He could have edited out this exchange since he doesn’t do a live show. But he wants people to see how much of a “warrrior” he is. What a bozo.


  19. I WORFEUS Says:

    I don’t see how it could have been an act.

    Geraldo looked a little scared there for a moment or too.

    He likewise is not that good of an actor.

    And if you’ve ever seen Geraldo act, you’d know that he can’t.


  20. I WORFEUS Says:

    I’m still laughing, and mopping up the soda that shot out of my nose when I first watched it.

    Oreilly looked like he was gonna lay an egg, LMAO


  21. JMR Says:

    Wow, Olbermann will have a field day with that clip. Someone at Fox better start cc’ing (carbon copying) Geraldo the talking points before Bill-O breaks blows a gasket.


  22. brie Says:

    See, I get really frustrated with the state of the world, Bush’s admin, and women’s rights a lot. I tend to think of myself as an angry liberal. But after watching that, I know I just don’t have access to the unbridled rage that drives O’Reilly and people like him.

    That video was more alarming than anything else. How those two think shouting at each other constitutes a political debate is beyond me.


  23. Fran Says:

    Acting 101.

    Total success. We’re talking about it.


  24. gorn by any other name Says:

    “You want anarchy! You want open border anarchy! That’s what you want!”

    This from a man whose behavior and show are the very definition of anarchy.

    I haven’t seen that kind of beyond control screaming since my kids were in diapers.

    Of course, if your diaper is filled with the O’Rielly factor, you have a good reason to scream.


  25. Saywho Says:

    Geraldo was a boxer and would mess the ‘drunk’ O’Reilly up with no problem. This was an act! By the way people on fox are actors since I am aware of no actual journalism on that station!


  26. radzikowski Says:

    I’m sorry mondo—not so much “go geraldo” but that he was bringing up the fact that BO missed the point.


  27. goehl Says:

    This temper fit has racist fool written all over it. Why else would one get so irate over this topic?


  28. hadenough Says:

    There’s gonna be some hot makeup sex going on there.


  29. JPark Says:

    #20 I agree. O’Reilly isn’t smart enough to be a good actor. He is all emotion.


  30. Zooey Says:

    Clash of the Stupids.


  31. Robert Says:

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is the state of american journalism.


  32. JPV Says:

    That video was more alarming than anything else. How those two think shouting at each other constitutes a political debate is beyond me.

    Comment by brie — April 5, 2007

    Yeah. When facts can’t support your bias, the last resort is bullying.


  33. radzikowski Says:

    …And I’m sure it was staged but as I posted on Oliver Willis:

    “BO is not insane. He is insensitive. The travesty is that BO abused the forum. He totally missed the point. The problem of drunk driving is independent of citizenship. My sister was killed by a drunk driver in 1997. I am incensed and insulted that he would trivialize this tragedy. He used the thread to make HIS point, and thanks to modern video technology his totally missing the point and rantings will go down in infamy.”

    Just so you know. I am sick and tired of this faux news. I have seen my share of tragedy and they are the type of “news” that glorifies it in such a fake way.


  34. radzikowski Says:

    oops—mongo (spelling not my suit)


  35. JPV Says:

    I can’t figure out why Bill is so against illegal immigrants anyway.

    Bush seems to want to welcome them here, in order to give his corporate owners/donors cheap labor. Why is O’Reilly going against the standard GOP talking points?


  36. Saywho Says:

    The part of Geraldo was played by Jake and the part of O’Reilly was played by Patrick1 for your amusement!


  37. JPark Says:

    #27 Hey, I say go Geraldo. He is right. O’Reilly only likes lily-white drunks.


  38. radzikowski Says:

    p.s. This clip has “our ratings are slipping so juice it up” written all over it…


  39. Rocks911 Says:

    Billo is destined for the dust heap of history. I can see him in the not too distant future in some shady bar bald headed and bleary eyed talking about who he used to be and getting his ass kicked by an “illegal” who remembers what a self-serving repugnant prick he is.

    Screw you old man your time has passed.
    Dubya’s time has passed.
    Cheney’s time has passed.
    Rumsfeld’s time has certainly passed

    To hell with all these old men.


  40. Sean Says:

    Notice how Bill-O handles Geraldo. “You want anarchy”. This was not staged. Bill-O’s mind is labelling Geraldo as the enemy so he can conjure up rage. It’s a subconscious thing.

    If it wasn’t clear before, now it is certainly clear how full of rage Bill-O’s mind is. There were times when I thought Bill-O was purposely doing immoral things to endorse the Republican party. With this video, I now see that it is subconscious for Bill-O. He doesn’t see himself.

    “Does the devil know he is a devil?” -Elizabeth Madox Roberts

    ~Sean


  41. Daryll Says:

    I don’t see how it could have been an act.

    Geraldo looked a little scared there for a moment or too.

    He likewise is not that good of an actor.

    And if you’ve ever seen Geraldo act, you’d know that he can’t.

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 10:18 pm

    Geraldo had a fearful look on his face because he knew that he was wrong. One, if you’re an illegal immigrant, you must be deported. Two, if you’re an illegal immigrant that commits a misdemeanor/felony, you should be banned from ever being approved to enter our country. This illegal immigrant constantly broke the law, and the Virginia Beach Mayor and Police Chief decided not to uphold the law. Geraldo needs to cease supporting illegal immigrants. I’m a brown skinned individual, but I do not support crime within the ghettos and hip-hop.


  42. I WORFEUS Says:

    This was an act! !

    Comment by Saywho — April 5, 2007 @ 10:21 pm

    I don’t think so. If it was then they’ve got a great career waiting for them.

    What that looked like to me, was rage. The pure rage of a reich wing coming apart.

    Its all starting to fall apart now, and Bill Oreilly is under seige from every corner. It must be getting hard for him to be the laughing stock of the planet, and I think Bill O is cracking up.

    I predict he’ll be in the looney bin inside of 24 months.


  43. Rocks911 Says:

    Leave it to Daryll for the retard perspective.


  44. Rocks911 Says:

    Daryll,
    was; “I’m a brown skinned individual, but I do not support crime within the ghettos and hip-hop.” supposed to make sense?


  45. Daryll Says:

    I’m sorry mondo—not so much “go geraldo” but that he was bringing up the fact that BO missed the point.

    Comment by radzikowski — April 5, 2007 @ 10:22 pm

    Mr. O’Reilly didn’t miss the point. What he was trying to explain is that an illegal immigrant should be deported if he/she is charged with a misdemeanor/felony. Geraldo constantly supports illegal immigration. Good grief, the illegal immigrant killed a civilian and hasn’t been encarcerated nor has he been deported. How about you stop being so liberal and think outside of the box.


  46. Saywho Says:

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
    Yes I’m assuming however it is a fact that that show is edited BIG TIME! If it went that way they would have cut all that out. Simply some FUD.


  47. Marie Says:

    WOW! I didn’t think I could ever support Geraldo, but he was right and he stood his ground against the big ignoramus.
    Bill-o was making a specious argument to make his case against illegal immigrants and Geraldo told him as much.
    If it had gone a little longer maybe Olielly would have blown a gasket right there on TV. People always argue the loudest when they know they are wrong but can’t admit it.


  48. I WORFEUS Says:

    Geraldo had a fearful look on his face because he knew that he was wrong.

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:28 pm

    I didn’t say one way or the other Daryll. But since you bring it up, I don’t believe in open borders at a time when foriegners are coming here to kill us. I think its stupid.

    But whats funny, is watching the two go at it. Oreilly is insane. Clearly insane.

    Thanks to him the days of the image of the calm cool conservatives is gone.

    That looked like a cross between an old war film of Hitler and the Three Stooges.


  49. JPark Says:

    #44 We should be appreciative of Daryll for coming by and giving the moron prospective. Now we have a well rounded appreciation of the issue.


  50. Daryll Says:

    Daryll,
    was; “I’m a brown skinned individual, but I do not support crime within the ghettos and hip-hop.” supposed to make sense?

    Comment by Rocks911 — April 5, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

    Let me guess, you want me to categorize myself as a black/african american person?


  51. Rocks911 Says:

    Hey retard,

    “What he was trying to explain is that an illegal immigrant should be deported if he/she is charged with a misdemeanor/felony.

    What would that accomplish, he would be back over the border within the week.

    It seems like your beloved Conserv666atives would had solved the imigration issue during the six years that they ran EVERYTHING. As much pissing and moaning as they do you’d figure they would have done something other than give it lip service for lunatics like you while they controlled government, but in the end that’s all the Conserv666atives are good for, giving lip service to supposed problems to placate lunatics like you.


  52. I WORFEUS Says:

    And yes guys, I know my no open borders position makes me unpopular, but thats how I see it. I don’t think it does Mexico any good to allow unfettered immagration to the US. I think all it does is encourage them to never do anything to improve the quality of life in their own country.

    My parents came to this country as immigrants, and they were neither wealthy or connected. They came through Ellis Island like everyone else back then, and did it legal.

    I don’t see where there is any argument for letting the Mexicans migrate here without going through the proper channels, like anyone else.

    :0

    OMG.

    I’m agreeing with Oreilly!

    GOD HELP MEEEEE!!!!!!!!


  53. Daryll Says:

    Geraldo had a fearful look on his face because he knew that he was wrong.

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:28 pm

    I didn’t say one way or the other Daryll. But since you bring it up, I don’t believe in open borders at a time when foriegners are coming here to kill us. I think its stupid.

    But whats funny, is watching the two go at it. Oreilly is insane. Clearly insane.

    Thanks to him the days of the image of the calm cool conservatives is gone.

    That looked like a cross between an old war film of Hitler and the Three Stooges.

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 10:37 pm

    Trust me, you’ll gain the same type of anger for illegal aliens. They get away with too many things. Also, they’re trying to force their language on true Americans.


  54. Saywho Says:

    Also Daryll’s point is the most logical. Geraldo is biased since he is Latino. I agree that aliens need to be deported and aliens that enter and drive drunk should be punished more harshly then US citizens that commit the same offence. The act here allows focus to shift from the Mexican border race riot that is coming shortly!


  55. Rocks911 Says:

    Daryll,

    No, the sentence doesn’t make sense. You don’t support crime within the hip-hop? In what world does that make sense?


  56. radzikowski Says:

    Good point #46. A person like this should be deported. Like Bill he missed a point—that of being here and being a good citizen—-even a citizen wannabe. I still think those 2 guys were talking about 2 different things. Sorry, when it comes to drunk drivers I find no excuse.


  57. JPark Says:

    #54 Wow, I had no clue the Spanish language was a threat to the US.


  58. Briseadh_na_faire Says:

    Also, they’re trying to force their language on true Americans.

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

    You mean the Indians are going to have to learn Spanish now?


  59. Rocks911 Says:

    Daryll,

    “they” are forcing their language on American Indians? Who knew?


  60. I WORFEUS Says:

    #54 Wow, I had no clue the Spanish language was a threat to the US.

    Comment by JPark — April 5, 2007 @ 10:43 pm

    Its not. Most Europeans are bi-lingual, yet here in the US we prefer to remain dumb. Teaching our young kids spanish and english would make them smarter and would open the world of Latin to them, which is a great gift to give any child.


  61. Daryll Says:

    And yes guys, I know my no open borders position makes me unpopular, but thats how I see it. I don’t think it does Mexico any good to allow unfettered immagration to the US. I think all it does is encourage them to never do anything to improve the quality of life in their own country.

    My parents came to this country as immigrants, and they were neither wealthy or connected. They came through Ellis Island like everyone else back then, and did it legal.

    I don’t see where there is any argument for letting the Mexicans migrate here without going through the proper channels, like anyone else.

    :0

    OMG.

    I’m agreeing with Oreilly!

    GOD HELP MEEEEE!!!!!!!!

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

    That’s the big issue. They don’t utilize the proper channels to receive temporary access into our country. Most have a 3rd grade education and they know that their visa application would be denied because they lack job skills. If they would put the bottle down and apply themselves, maybe Mexico wouldn’t be such a bad place.


  62. I WORFEUS Says:

    I think what we need is a “generous” immigration policy with Mexico, but there must be a policy. Opening our borders is insane.

    If our real fear is Al Quaida getting the right people in to do something, then permitting open borders with Mexico, or Canada for that matter, is just asking to get hit.

    Al Quaida would not have to sneak into the US. They’d just have to sneak into Mexico.

    And how hard can that be?


  63. I WORFEUS Says:

    Daryll.

    Don’t make the mistake of thinking we’re on the same page.


  64. Daryll Says:

    Daryll,

    No, the sentence doesn’t make sense. You don’t support crime within the hip-hop? In what world does that make sense?

    Comment by Rocks911 — April 5, 2007 @ 10:42 pm

    Crime within the the ghetto nor hip-hop. I’ll continue to pray for you.


  65. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Where’s Newt Gingrich when you need an expert on Latino issues?


  66. Bluedahlia Says:

    Daryll,
    If you were a true “American” you would be speaking Lakota or one of the other of MANY Native American languages.


  67. JPark Says:

    Daryll, you moron. Most people who have EVER emigrated to the US have a steep learning curve. Your great-grandparents as well. That is what that huddled masses thingy is all about. Jack ass.


  68. Rocks911 Says:

    Daryll,

    You are one bigoted piece of shit, unworthy of my ire. Piss off.


  69. JPark Says:

    #63 I think you are pretty much on the same page as most liberals and thinking human beings. Open borders…not so much. Regulated immigration…yep.


  70. Zooey Says:

    Let me guess, you want me to categorize myself as a black/african american person?
    Comment by Daryll

    Identify yourself as such, it makes no difference. Your sentence still makes no sense.


  71. alp3 Says:

    priceless…


  72. DM Says:

    #54 - Immigration laws were built to discriminate the Irish… the Italians… the Chinese… the Africans… the Mexicans… the only incumbent that didn’t try to oppress the immigrant in this big happy f*cking melting pot was the Indian, and it’s only because one look at the white people who landed told them that wihtout serious assistance they weren’t even going to survive their first winter.

    America has ALWAYS treated immigrants in a barbaric fashion, and the immigrants have ALWAYS shown themselves to be invaluable beyond expectation, and have made the greatest improvements in our country, in spite of their treatment.

    It is the height of irony that someone named O’REILLY has no appreciation for the history of American immigration.


  73. Jim Says:

    I think this argument really demonstrates the racial aspects of the immigration debate. Two conservatives that normally agree on everything, but of different ethnicities suddenly go at each other. O’Reilly is looking at this from the prospective of the brown people being evil. Rivera is one of those brown people and is starting to get the idea that his buddy is a racist.

    Or, in other words, Rivera may be a pathetic-me too-opportunist, but he’s also from la raza. He sure as hell isn’t going to let O’Reilly get away with this crap.

    O’Reilly is, as expected, a racist.


  74. Zooey Says:

    Trust me, you’ll gain the same type of anger for illegal aliens. They get away with too many things. Also, they’re trying to force their language on true Americans.
    Comment by Daryll

    I know of several illegal Canadians around here. Damn those illegal Canadians trying to push Canadaese on us. What are they saying anyway!?


  75. Zooey Says:

    If they would put the bottle down and apply themselves, maybe Mexico wouldn’t be such a bad place.
    Comment by Daryll

    Holy shit, you didn’t just say that. Daryll you are a racist — the worst sort of racist.


  76. Daryll Says:

    #54 Wow, I had no clue the Spanish language was a threat to the US.

    Comment by JPark — April 5, 2007 @ 10:43 pm

    Its not. Most Europeans are bi-lingual, yet here in the US we prefer to remain dumb. Teaching our young kids spanish and english would make them smarter and would open the world of Latin to them, which is a great gift to give any child.

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 10:47 pm

    There’s nothing wrong with educating yourself about other foreign languages. But I do have a problem with learning a language so I can conversate with you in our country. This is America. They must learn to speak our standard language (English). I haven’t seen asians, arabs or europeans trying to impose their language upon us. Why must it be those from Central and South America. Also, they are not Latinos!!!!!!


  77. Saywho Says:

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
    Actual boarder security would change quite a lot. Hard drugs would be harder to get. Boarder town violence would go down. Aliens would not get abused by those that would violate the law and hire them.
    Instead we are going to have a 10 lane highway up the center of the country! How many ways and times can I say we have GIANT PROBLEMS? Then these to appear to have a tiff and we stress about that rather than the big picture!


  78. Immigration2008DotCom Says:

    In a recent screed, Jerry Rivers said we should allow Mexicans to resettle their former territory, simply because the Southwest is their former territory. I’d say he’s a crazy reconquista, but he’s not even a Chicano. He’s just nuts.


  79. Bluedahlia Says:

    The government is never going to shut America’s borders. One of my good friends owns her own business and she told me that she hires a lot of illegals (not because they are illegals, because they do the best work) And no, the average pay is 35k a year. Not really all that cheap.

    Here is the kicker. She pays taxes on all of them. She doesn’t pay them under the table even though it would be a lot easier. Has the gov’t come after them as a business? NO. have they come after any employees and deported them? NO. NOTHING. They send her a letter every year for each employee saying they have no record of this person, but they don’t gove the money back. Where do you think it goes? She calls it the “ghost” account. lol


  80. Nat Says:

    I’m a brown skinned individual, but I do not support crime within the ghettos and hip-hop.
    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:28 pm

    What are you trying to say here? Most brown-skinned individuals support crime and you’re one that doesn’t? You’re a racist.


  81. Zooey Says:

    Also, they are not Latinos!!!!!!
    Comment by Daryll

    Why don’t we let them decide for themselves “what” they are?


  82. JPark Says:

    #77 Boo-hoo Daryll. I love how you pigs on the right always have to be the victim. You guys are scared of EVERYTHING. Cowards.


  83. shane Says:

    Oreilly’s not that good of an actor
    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 10:15 pm

    You’re not kidding, if that’s an act, O’Reilly’s Robert DeNiro. That can’t be good for his arteries, teehee.


  84. JPark Says:

    #80 35k a year? Sorry, but that is just a crock if you are trying to say that is the average illegal immigrant’s wage.


  85. I WORFEUS Says:

    But I do have a problem with learning a language so I can conversate with you in our country.

    This is America.

    They must learn to speak our standard language (English).

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:57 pm

    Why?

    It apparently hasn’t stopped you from “conversating”.

    :|


  86. joe Says:

    Holy crap, did you see the way Bill’s eyes popped when Geraldo yelled “It’s a sin?” Yow.

    If the Democrats in Congress stood up like that, there’d be 400 of ‘em.


  87. Raymond Funamoto Says:

    Geraldo, though he is a FOX(tm) creep, DID THE RIGHT THING AND CALLED O’LIE-lly OUT AND READ HIM THE RIOT ACT—NO AMOUNT OF BULLYING BLUSTER OR PUSHING HIS COWARDLY WEIGHT AROUND AFFECTED THE MACHO Geraldo, WHO MATCHED THE SNEAKING DEMAGOGIC JINGOIST O’LIElly POINT FOR POINT AND STOOD HIS GROUND AGAINST THE SCREAMING GIRLY-MAN “CULTURE WARRIOR”–I WISH I WERE THERE—IF I WERE Geraldo, I WOULD HAVE LEANED OVER AND PUNCHED O’LIE-lly’s DISTORTED COWARDLY BULLYING FACE IN AND BROKEN HIS SPINE WITH ME TOD SLAUGHTER MOVE AS STEPHEN HAWKE!!!!! I WOULD LOVE TO “COME TO GRIPS” WITH O’LIE-lly AND SNAP HIS OBNOXIOUS SPINE LIKE A ROTTEN TWIG!!!!!


  88. Saywho Says:

    Any way this is why we have debates but the debate of this thread is about the Tiff on FOX. My bet is that it was staged or it would have been edited out!


  89. Anonymous By Choice Says:

    Best. O’Reilly. Clip. EVER.

    And I didn’t even have to watch it live to give him more ratings. :)


  90. Daryll Says:

    If they would put the bottle down and apply themselves, maybe Mexico wouldn’t be such a bad place.
    Comment by Daryll

    Holy shit, you didn’t just say that. Daryll you are a racist — the worst sort of racist.

    Comment by Zooey — April 5, 2007 @ 10:57 pm

    I’m not a bigot nor am I a racist. I’m just giving you the facts. They have a brain and mouth. They can protest about their (Mexico) education system. Instead of resolving issues within their own country, they believe the only resolution is to illegally migrate into our territory. Anway, I have to go, my wife is calling me. Everyone have a blessed night. If I were you, I would give my life to Christ.


  91. JPark Says:

    #89 No way it was staged. Bill was pissed. And if you were Fox would you edit something that explosive out?


  92. shane Says:

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:34 pm

    The illegal immigrant is still here because he works cheap for some rich guy. Bush is all for illegal immigrants. Just go down to the border. Are you that stupid.


  93. JPark Says:

    #91 Pig, saying that Mexicans don’t “apply” themselves is not only racist, it is wrong. Most Mexicans around here have sh!t jobs and work their a$$es of doing them.


  94. shane Says:

    Yes I’m assuming however it is a fact that that show is edited BIG TIME! If it went that way they would have cut all that out. Simply some FUD.

    Comment by Saywho — April 5, 2007 @ 10:34 pm

    But talent doesn’t edit the show, producers do. And Fox would sell out O’Reilly, and they should, in a heartbeat. It’s all dog eat dog in showbiz and O’Reilly turned out to be the bitch.
    Also, Geraldo isn’t even hispanic. He’s Jewish and was born here. Too funny.


  95. Zooey Says:

    #91 - Daryll

    Just becuse you say you’re not a bigot, doesn’t make it so. You are a bigot and a racist. Do you even know any Mexicans?

    Run along to Mommy, Daryll.

    I have already dedicated my life to Beelzebub, and I’m off to have my monthly abortion.


  96. I WORFEUS Says:

    I’m not a bigot nor am I a racist. I’m just giving you the facts.

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 11:08 pm

    Really?

    Then what racist son of a bitch said this?

    Most have a 3rd grade education and they know that their visa application would be denied because they lack job skills. If they would put the bottle down and apply themselves, maybe Mexico wouldn’t be such a bad place.

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:48 pm


  97. Saywho Says:

    Comment by JPark — April 5, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
    The Factor is BOs show and it was not edited since it was acting like WWF wrestling!


  98. Anonymous By Choice Says:

    #86 - Well, it DOES effect me.

    I live in the city, and you don’t know how many store owners I try to be a customer for, but they never understand what I’m saying, or they don’t know what I’m saying.

    It only wastes an average of 2 - 3 minutes of my day (sometimes, it takes 2 minutes just to say two separate statements, or requests) however when you add up all those times… yeah, a lot of time has been wasted.

    One time at a rest stop on the highway, it took me 10 minutes to have the cashier understand that what I had on the side was a pickle. She had to call the other cashier over, and then the boss. It was a nightmare. At LEAST learn the English words of the food you’re selling!

    The worst is if I’m ordering take-out via the phone. The phone makes their accent for me, and my English for them, much harder to understand.

    And that DOES make me worry about if they drive. Can they read road signs? Maybe they memorize the shape and colors, but I have no way of knowing.


  99. I WORFEUS Says:

    I would give my life to Christ.

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 11:08 pm

    So who’s stopping you?


  100. Saywho Says:

    Comment by shane — April 5, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
    He is of South American decent man. His religion is a different subject.


  101. Breaux Says:

    This was by far the funniest thing I have ever seen on TP


  102. gorn by any other name Says:

    “But I do have a problem with learning a language so I can conversate with you in our country.”

    Conversate???

    You could have shortened your sentence thus:

    “I do have a problem with learning a language”


  103. phil Says:

    BOR won this. He is right.Illegal mexicans are killing and raping everyday.


  104. JPark Says:

    #98 Honestly, if I were the producer I would run with it.


  105. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    I’m not a bigot nor am I a racist. I’m just giving you the facts. and that after the comment about all Mexicans being drunks? You bigoted piece of shit - “give my life to Christ?” You are a disgusting hypocrite - your Jesus Christ knew a lot about people like you:

    Luke 18:
    Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


  106. gorn by any other name Says:

    I would give my life to Christ.

    Please do so, and hand it to him in person.


  107. Zooey Says:

    He is of South American decent man. His religion is a different subject.
    Comment by Saywho

    Actually, he’s Puerto Rican.


  108. JPark Says:

    #99 Who cares? Don’t live in a city, then. Whiner.


  109. legaleze Says:

    Can we have a reasoned immigration policy in which we deport both Geraldo and O’Reilly?

    O’Reilly, as everyone knows is off the reservation hopeless. Geraldo isn’t much better and may even be worse to the extent he tries to semble reasonableness. I saw the movie US v. Lennon, which was excellent, except that Geraldo had more than a minor role. It was depressing seeing him speak of Lennon. Geraldo, a total sell out and Lennon, who was remarkable for many reasons, chief among them, his integrity.


  110. JPark Says:

    Wasn’t Christ one of those nasty middle easterners?


  111. Anonymous By Choice Says:

    #91 - What happened to love thy neighbor? Is your wife an ugly white-trash fatty? I can say those things because I never believed in Jesus.

    And if it turns out there is a hell, I’m Jewish. And Jews don’t believe in hell, so I’m safe. And I don’t even have to be a practicing Jew! I don’t believe a single thing in the Old Testament, but Jews say I’ll always be Jewish. So I’m safe. Phew!

    But I do agree that their country makes it MUCH harder to succeed, so they come over here. I don’t know why they want to cut in front of the line, and get in here illegally. Maybe they are just too hungry, and poor to wait any longer. But it makes sense as to why they want to come here.

    Hey, a lot of things are wrong in this world, and with so many people trying to deal with all kinds of issues, we’re gonna run into these issues.


  112. I WORFEUS Says:

    One time at a rest stop on the highway, it took me 10 minutes to have the cashier understand that what I had on the side was a pickle. .

    Comment by Anonymous By Choice — April 5, 2007 @ 11:14 pm

    Sounds like you were in a real pickle…



  113. Zooey Says:

    Illegal mexicans are killing and raping everyday.
    Comment by phil

    Ain’t that the truth? I get raped and killed by Mexicans everyday.
    /sick sarcasm


  114. gorn by any other name Says:

    “I have already dedicated my life to Beelzebub, and I’m off to have my monthly abortion.”

    Too funny, Z!


  115. I WORFEUS Says:

    The worst is if I’m ordering take-out via the phone.

    The phone makes their accent for me, and my English for them, much harder to understand

    Comment by Aracist By Choice — April 5, 2007 @ 11:14 pm

    Yea.

    Ordering take out.

    :|

    That sounds rough.


  116. shane Says:

    Comment by Daryll — April 5, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

    Trust me, you’ll gain the same type of anger for the administration. They get away with too many things. Also, they’re trying to force their lies on true Americans.

    And are you going to feel cheated when you finally figure it out.


  117. I WORFEUS Says:

    BOR won this. He is right.

    Illegal mexicans are killing and raping everyday.

    Comment by dr phil — April 5, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    And they call us moonbats.


  118. JPark Says:

    #112 But I do agree that their country makes it MUCH harder to succeed, so they come over here. I don’t know why they want to cut in front of the line, and get in here illegally.

    Well, jeez, if I lived in a country with an oppressive gov’t and no opportunities I would certainly be nice and polite and wait in some line to better my life. I really think all Americans should live in a sh!thole 3rd world country for 1 year just to realize what jags they are.


  119. shane Says:

    Geraldo is biased since he is Latino
    Comment by Saywho — April 5, 2007 @ 10:42 pm

    Geraldo is a stage name. He’s Jerry Rivers and Jewish.


  120. Zooey Says:

    Too funny, Z!
    Comment by gorn by any other name

    Daryll’s hypocrisy and insanity drive me to distraction.

    He called me a blasphemer once, and I’m trying to get him to do it again. :D


  121. gorn by any other name Says:

    Illegal mexicans are killing and raping everyday.

    So are legal lilly-white Americans. Is the problem with the border of the country or the border of humanity? I think the latter.


  122. legaleze Says:

    Wasn’t Christ one of those nasty middle easterners?

    Comment by JPark — April 5, 2007 @ 11:20 pm

    Wonder if he’d be able to get a visa under present immigration restrictions. Who knows, Bush/Cheney may have him locked up in Gitmo. Let’s see, he was due back here in the millenium, Bush was elected right around that time, then 9/11, then our war on terror . . . Yep, he’s in Gitmo.


  123. JPark Says:

    #114 I am still waiting for some pretty latina to go ahead and rape me.


  124. joe Says:

    Anonymous by Choice,

    Sure, that’s annoying, but it’s always been that way in this country. When the American Revolution happened, most of Pennsylvania was German-speaking territory. A lot of communities in the southwest have always been majority Spanish-speaking. And non-English-speaking immigrant communities have existed in our large cities since the mid-1800s, if not before.

    You say they should learn English - they are learning English. Immigrants today learn English faster and better than ever before - 98% of the children of immigrants grow up speaking perfect English. That certainly wasn’t the case 80 or 100 years ago. Back then, they used to mostly live in segregated, insular neighborhoods. They’d use their native language at work, at home, out in public, and when they went shopping. Today, that doesn’t exist any more, and they’re out there trying to get by with limited English in mainstream American society.

    That’s the way it is in the country.


  125. JPark Says:

    #123 Wouldn’t that be ironic, to be sold to the US by Afghani bounty hunters and tortured by the most Christian nation on Earth?


  126. Saywho Says:

    WOW never mind the FOX clip… We can have our own boarder war here. Aliens can be legal or under the wire! The better choice for all of us is above board! The law is the law by the way and deportation is necessary since the Lady Liberty is running out of space in her arms. Bush wants them here by the way! I’m in NJ and I know only aliens that do construction in my area. I worked for a contractor that screwed them (aliens) every way he could. He deducted workmen’s compensation from their pay. None around here have insurance so wind up as charity care at clinics and hospitals.
    Round them up and send them home. If they commit felonies they need the harshest penalties and deportation. As it stands they know the worst thing is that they will get deported. The rest of us must obey the law like it or not!


  127. JPark Says:

    #121 I want him to call me a heritic and Sodomite. Maybe the anti-christ. That would be a thrill.


  128. phil Says:

    yeah its all funnie until someone you know gets killed by a illegal mexican


  129. OxyCon Says:

    If Dild O’Reilly keeps trying to screw over Rosie O’Donnel, I hope she would go to SmokingGun.com and read pages 15, 16, and 17 of “Mackris Vs. O’Really” on “The View”.
    She should give it a very slow bleed, promising to read one sentance before each commercial break for the entire week.
    Rosie does this and you can say “Good-bye O’Reilly”.
    The water cooler talk would be nothing except what a total stalking sexual perv O’Reilly is.


  130. shane Says:

    Damn those illegal Canadians trying to push Canadaese on us. What are they saying anyway!?

    Comment by Zooey — April 5, 2007 @ 10:55 pm

    Lots of illegal Irish and Polish in Chicago. Lots of IRA terrorist types but they’re lilly white so nobody cares.


  131. JPark Says:

    #127 The law is the law by the way and deportation is necessary since the Lady Liberty is running out of space in her arms.

    Well, as for space, I would like you to site that. Would you like a tax hike to deport 12 million aliens?

    Round them up and send them home. If they commit felonies they need the harshest penalties and deportation. As it stands they know the worst thing is that they will get deported. The rest of us must obey the law like it or not!

    BS, illegals that commit crime spend time in US prisons. The rest of us obey the law? What? Are you stoned?


  132. I WORFEUS Says:

    If they commit felonies they need the harshest penalties and deportation.

    Comment by Saywho — April 5, 2007 @ 11:29 pm

    Why the “harshest penalties”?

    Why not the same penalties anyone else would get?

    QUESTION.

    When did “cruelty“, become a policy?


  133. JPark Says:

    #129 It is all fun and games (that would be the correct phrase, Quayle) until someone is killed by a card carrying KKK member.


  134. legaleze Says:

    Yes, JPark at 126, being tortured by those who claim to be the most christian of christians. By Bush, who when asked by Woodward if he talked to his dad before invading Iraq, said, “No, I talked to a higher father.” Whoa, this is just too bizzare!


  135. SKdeA Says:

    #76, muchas gracias!!!


  136. SKdeA Says:

    And just out of curiosity, how many of us on this blog either are Hispanic, or have one in their immediate family by marriage?
    Statistically it should be 1 in 6 in the USA. But I have a feeling we will come in higher. I’ll bet Daryll can’t speak Spanish…
    Y usted?


  137. phil Says:

    134 #where did u get your kkk card from??


  138. gorn by any other name Says:

    yeah its all funnie until someone you know gets killed by a illegal mexican

    I nominate phil and darryl.

    Hey phil, I feel pretty sure we’re all equally against rape, murder, and drunk driving, regardless of immigration status. You do get that, right?


  139. joe Says:

    Oh, fer Chrissakes, Bill, do I need to draw you a picture?

    *blink blink*

    What?

    - Geraldo Rivera


  140. joe cantwell Says:

    tomorrow night billy and geraldo are going to wrestle each other nude. i’m watching!


  141. legaleze Says:

    yeah its all funnie until someone you know gets killed by a illegal mexican

    Comment by phil — April 5, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    I wonder what they say in Iraq when a soldier “accidentally” kills an Iraqi civilian?


  142. JPark Says:

    #135 That was a bizarre statement. Way to honor thy father, Bushboy.


  143. JPark Says:

    #138 That was really stupid, phil.


  144. I WORFEUS Says:

    yeah its all funnie until someone you know gets killed by a illegal mexican

    Comment by phil — April 5, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    Or puts out an eye.


  145. phil Says:

    same thing this war is illegal.


  146. shane Says:

    He is of South American decent man. His religion is a different subject.

    Comment by Saywho — April 5, 2007 @ 11:15 pm

    His father was Puerto Rican, a US citizen then, and his mother was jewish, non-hipanic, Lilly Friedman. So immigration wasn’t really an issue for him. Google Jerry Rivers for info.


  147. phil Says:

    139# if that illegal mexican wasn’t here or was deported like he should have been than this person whould be alive.right? thought so


  148. legaleze Says:

    Hey Daryll and your other brother Daryll (I mean Phil), wasn’t the southwest (Texas, Arizona, California, etc.) part of Mexico not too long ago?


  149. phil Says:

    if illegal mexicans were deported or thrown in jail than the people who are raped and murdered by them would still be unharmed.


  150. JPark Says:

    #148 Pay for it, phil.


  151. shane Says:

    Well, jeez, if I lived in a country with an oppressive gov’t and no opportunities
    Comment by JPark — April 5, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    Ahem, I believe you do.


  152. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    The UN said the Iraq invasion was illegal - guess all those GIs are illegal…. guess all those 100s of thousands of Iraqis would still be alive if Iraq enforced their immigration laws… you are on to something, phil…


  153. shane Says:

    Lots of illegal Irish and Polish in Chicago. Lots of IRA terrorist types but they’re lilly white so nobody cares.

    Comment by shane — April 5, 2007 @ 11:31 pm

    Zooey -my point was to be that O’Reilly probably comes from illegals - hence the defensive nature of his arguments.


  154. JPark Says:

    #152 Touche, shane! If I didn’t think we would get back to actual American values western Europe would be very inviting.


  155. shane Says:

    Wasn’t Christ one of those nasty middle easterners?

    Comment by JPark — April 5, 2007 @ 11:20 pm

    Definitely a brown person. Don’t tell the bible thumpers, they’ll go all O’Reilly on us.


  156. katy Says:

    i just found this thread… i know i won’t get this far reading the comments… but this, i thought, was so funny… a good repeat:

    I haven’t seen that kind of beyond control screaming since my kids were in diapers.
    Of course, if your diaper is filled with the O’Rielly factor, you have a good reason to scream.
    Comment by gorn by any other name — April 5, 2007 @ 10:20 pm

    heh… been there…

    g’nite all…


  157. Karim Says:

    Of all the people to put Orally in his place, it had to be another wingnut, Geraldo Rivera. I never thought I would see the day.


  158. Saywho Says:

    Comment by I WORFEUS — April 5, 2007 @ 11:33 pm

    Sorry that you support the elimination of the north and south boarders. Regarding punishment, “You killed someone now go home” is not punishment at all. So if they survive the lethal injection (murder and rape and armed robbery and smuggling and etc are felonies) then the deportation should come next. Someone here brought up religion based on a forgiving God. I don’t have to worry about punishing sins. God will sort out the bodies based on sin here on Earth we have to worry about punishing criminals.

    How many Dems here want to see Bush & Cheney tried for war crimes? How many want to see them impeached? How many here want to have health insurance that are citizens?


  159. shane Says:

    yeah its all funnie until someone you know gets killed by a illegal mexican

    Comment by phil — April 5, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    Is it all fun and games when someone you know gets killed by a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant American? Say some Kennebunkport Episcopalian?


  160. JPark Says:

    #159 You are good at the whole strawman thing, aren’t you?


  161. JPark Says:

    #156 But…but…all the pictures in church…he is white!!!! :)


  162. Trekkie Says:

    if that illegal mexican wasn’t here or was deported like he should have been than this person whould be alive.right?

    And maybe instead she would have been killed by a drunk frat boy. Or a businessman on his way home from the bar. Or hell, maybe death rays from Mars would have disintegrated her next week.

    See, I can play this game too…


  163. JPark Says:

    #159 If you don’t understand what a strawman is, let me tell you. You took WORF’s post, twisted what he said so it would mesh with what you BELIEVE he said (as messed up as it is) and you attacked the words you put in his mouth. Now, as a novice here, we will forgive you this once. If you continue to do it you are fair game.


  164. phil Says:

    if the mexican would have be deported or put in jail this person would be alive.This is what Democrats want.


  165. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Phil - afraid of a bit of Mexican ‘manifest destiny’ are you?

    That’s what you Americans called the invasion of Mexico by US settlers in the 1820s and 30s, bringing slavery with them where Mexico had outlawed it (40 years before your sad republic did and 140 years before full civil rights) refusing to convert to catholicism, refusing to learn Spanish and obey the laws of the 1824 republic of Mexico.


  166. phil Says:

    163# you think its a game when illegals from mexico rape and murder??


  167. shane Says:

    if illegal mexicans were deported or thrown in jail than the people who are raped and murdered by them would still be unharmed.

    Comment by phil — April 5, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    And if mass murderers in this country were hispanic we could ship them home but since they’re 99.9% white males that wouldn’t do us much good would it? So if we killed off all white males we would have very few mass murders. You wanna go first?


  168. Zooey Says:

    if that illegal mexican wasn’t here or was deported like he should have been than this person whould be alive.right? thought so
    Comment by phil

    Yeah, because only illegal Mexicans kill people in this country.

    One of my fellow University students was murdered over the weekend — two bullets in the head. Guess what? It was a white guy he went to high school with. Go figure….


  169. phil Says:

    166# lets treat our illegals like the great country of mexico does.

    lets also have 12 year old hookers walking the streets like mexico does.


  170. JPark Says:

    #165 phil, how are you going to pay for it??? Inconvenient little hitch in your plan.


  171. I WORFEUS Says:

    Sorry that you support the elimination of the north and south boarders.

    Comment by Sayboo — April 5, 2007 @ 11:54 pm

    So you’re trying to tell me you’re a compelte moron?

    And not because you spell borders, “boarders”.

    But becasuse you somehow extrapolate that because I don’t believe in extra-special harsh punishments that that constitutes my supporting the elimination of the borders.

    :|

    Particularly since if you scroll up and READ, you’ll see where I said I do not support open borders during this time of terrorism. I said open borders were “asking to get hit”.

    But you only see what you want to see. Like most republicans.

    But your construing my condemnation of extra harsh punishments for illegal aliens as a support for open borders, is a desperate strech , even for a repubican.


  172. Saywho Says:

    Comment by shane — April 5, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
    Again he is biased and that is what I pointed out man. Don’t read into it. I don’t question his legality but he stands for “Latinos” and that is a statement he has made public many times. So if it is correct to deport an alien he may argue that drunk driving is the only offence. If the driver is an Alien then what are his driving credentials? Does he have points? Does he have a record? Is he aware of driving laws? Does he know that ignorance of the law is no excuse? What about a victim of this alien. How can restitution ever be made?
    Citizens w/ no license that commit a felony while driving face mandatory jail time since. They will need a lawyer and will need plenty of money. Here you can fill in the rest but remember your opinion is not mine but like you I want to see Bush GO!


  173. shane Says:

    Jpark - hush - ixnay on the brown Jesus thing. Fundamentalist can’t deal with the truth.


  174. JPark Says:

    #170 Ok, you just gave a great reason Mexicans would want to emigrate but you hate them for wanting to give their 12 year old a better life than being a used up whore by 16. You are consistent, if nothing else. Consistently an a$$hole.


  175. Zooey Says:

    Zooey -my point was to be that O’Reilly probably comes from illegals - hence the defensive nature of his arguments.
    Comment by shane

    I thought he just hated to be contradicted, and then lose an argument — on his own show. :D


  176. phil Says:

    You take all the money that is needed to support illegal mexicans and send them back .


  177. I WORFEUS Says:

    163# you think its a game when illegals from mexico rape and murder??

    Comment by phil — April 6, 2007 @ 12:00 am

    Actually it is.

    Its called GrandTheft Auto III, available for US children or illegal immigrant children at Walmarts and Best Buys across the USA.


  178. cha cha cha Says:

    “if illegal mexicans were deported or thrown in jail than the people who are raped and murdered by them would still be unharmed.

    Comment by phil — April 5, 2007 @ 11:46 pm”

    you mean Abeer Qasim Hamza would still be unharmed?


  179. I WORFEUS Says:

    I thought he just hated to be contradicted, and then lose an argument — on his own show. :D

    Comment by Zooey — April 6, 2007 @ 12:07 am

    Thats exactly what it was Zooey.

    Thats exactly what that was.


  180. Zooey Says:

    lets also have 12 year old hookers walking the streets like mexico does.
    Comment by phil

    Do you actually believe 12 year olds are not victimized everyday in this country? BTW, most 12 year olds being victimized are being victimized by someone they know — daddy, uncle, family friend, cousin, etc.

    Oh god! Look over there! An illegal Mexican! Runaway, phil!


  181. JPark Says:

    #177 You weren’t very good in math, were you?


  182. legaleze Says:

    Jpark - hush - ixnay on the brown Jesus thing. Fundamentalist can’t deal with the truth.

    Comment by shane — April 6, 2007 @ 12:06 am

    Yes, but he also had those beautiful blue eyes. And what about that halo?


  183. phil Says:

    yeah its so funny . but what the hell can’t do anything about it so lets let all the illegal mexicans rape ,and murder ,smuggle drugs and break the law.
    Their just trying to have a better life.


  184. Left Coast Mike Says:

    tomorrow night billy and geraldo are going to wrestle each other nude. i’m watching!

    Comment by joe cantwell

    Damn, makes me think of Borat…eewwwwww


  185. cha cha cha Says:

    Comment by JPark — April 6, 2007 @ 12:11 am

    next year in school when he learns algebra he’ll understand.


  186. shane Says:

    Comment by Zooey — April 6, 2007 @ 12:10 am

    Usually their victimized by somebody like …
    phil.


  187. JPark Says:

    #186 I am pretty sure they don’t learn algebra in remedial 2nd grade math. They are too busy counting to 10.


  188. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Ok, I’m going to poke my neck out here (TerrytheTurtle pokes his head out).

    The relationship between the Bush and Clinton (and Gore - yes he backed it too) NAFTA bill, driven into Mexican law to the direct benefit of the corporate communities on both sides of the border, has not been explored anywhere on this blog.

    NAFTA destroyed the Mexican corn farming industry, driving a lot of family farmers out of business as the big US firms dumped corn in Mexico. What did these farmers do? They returned the favor and came north, the change in demographics of farm workers post NAFTA is staggering - now over 80% of all US farm workers are from south of the border and over half of them are undocumented - who is exploiting who? The story of illegal immigration in the US is complex and basically everyone has been benefitting - the Mexican companies, the US agribusiness companies and the immigrants have done what they were basically forced to do…


  189. JPark Says:

    #189 NAFTA is good for one type of person. The rich American corporatist. Clinton can burn for that.