ThinkFast: April 5, 2007
ThinkFast: April 5, 2007
In an editorial entitled “Cheney’s Chance,” the New York Sun encourages Vice President Cheney to run for president. The Sun claims that, were he in the race, “it’s hard to imagine that the president’s approval ratings would not be five or 10 points higher” because the administration would have “a defender on the campaign trail.” Note: Cheney’s approval is even lower than Bush’s.
The White House has unveiled a public Internet database that lists “all the pet spending projects lawmakers tucked in the federal budget for the 2004-05 fiscal year,” but does “not include the earmarks the president and his administration requested.”
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said this week of purged U.S. attorney Carol Lam, “She’s a former law professor; no prosecutorial experience; and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton.” In fact, Lam served as a prosecutor for 15 years, and according to Lam, was neither a law professor nor a Clinton campaign worker.
The Justice Department’s White House liaison Monica Goodling yesterday “refused a request from the House Judiciary Committee to answer questions in a private interview.” Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) and Rep. Linda Sánchez (D-CA) earlier indicated that if Goodling refused to grant the private interview, she may be required to attend a public hearing and invoke the Fifth on a “question-by-question basis.”
A new Amnesty International report states that conditions at Guantanamo Bay prison have worsened. “Most detainees have suffered harsh treatment throughout their detention,” the report says, and a new facility opened in December “has created even harsher and apparently more permanent conditions of extreme isolation and sensory deprivation.”
10,328: The number of housing complaints received in 2006 by the Department of Housing and Urban Development and Fair Housing Assistance Program agencies, “up 65% from the 6,270 complaints received in 1996.” Last year’s number was a record, “with disability and race as the leading reasons for filing a complaint.”
President Bush yesterday recess-appointed Andrew Biggs, a supporter of Social Security privatization, to the No. 2 spot at the Social Security Administration. Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT) said the move “could derail any chance of a Social Security overhaul.”
“A newly formed consulting firm hired to account for more than $7.3 billion in Iraqi reconstruction money did not deliver a database that could help investigators track waste and fraud. … The result: Two years after uncovering one major fraud case, auditors still haven’t determined whether there was more graft in the spending of Iraqi oil proceeds.”
And finally: Former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) has been greeted at events recently by someone dressed up as a dolphin, dubbing himself Flip, who is highlighting Romney’s “flip-flops” on various issues. Earlier this week, Flip tried to enter a campaign event “but was caught in a net of young Romney staffers. ‘You need to leave the building,’ bellowed one, as he porpoisely pushed out the heckler.” The dolphin “would only admit to being a student from Davenport, Iowa. Asked what he school he went to, Flip offered: ‘The University of the Pacific Ocean.’”
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Monica Goodling is the new poster girl for for “the quintessential liar”. Her claiming the 5th only indicts this DOJ and the Bush Regime further.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:18 am7.3 billion of taxpayer’s dollars lost?? I’d say we look in Bush and Cheney’s pockets and offshore accounts for this money.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:19 amOrin Hatch is and has always been a misinformed fool who is incapable of intelligent discourse and always shows his bigotry and idiocy in public. There’s “no fool like an old fool”, Oren, so either get with the program (if your brains allows) or move forward with your life which, clearly, has nothing to do with unbiased representation of the people.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:21 amCaption:
Dick: “Piss on this fool”
April 5th, 2007 at 9:21 amGeorge: “Today, I am announcing the Healthy Bushes Initiative“
Run Dick Run. That would be the greatest gift we could possibly recieve.
Dick/Newt 08
April 5th, 2007 at 9:23 amand hatch made those comments on meet the press. where’s fat tim’s authoritative research to challenge hatch on those lies…. is he going to correct those lies on sunday’s program.
don’t hold your breath.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:25 amTP,
That’s one creepy picture you put up there.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:25 amRe: Lam’s record and Hatch’s version of it,
April 5th, 2007 at 9:26 amWhen have facts ever stood in the way of neoCON talking points?
the New York Sun encourages Vice President Cheney to run for president
April 5th, 2007 at 9:27 amPlease, oh please, oh please let Dick run!!! (I think I just soiled myself with that editorial!!!)
Hell, even Hillary could win if Dick ran!
boy, there’s one sure fire way for the Dems to control everything….
Let Dick Run!!!
(had I not noticed the date of this particular editorial, I’d swear it was an April Fools Day joke)
Doesn’t Dick look evil in this picture? Like a vulture lurking. Or a predator eyeing (studying) it’s prey before the inevitable attack.
Maybe Dead Eye Dick is Satan’s evil spawn.
Look at this picture and imagine the music of the original Omen playing (or tubular bells from the Exorcist)
April 5th, 2007 at 9:31 amScares the bejebus outta me!
Wow, even the Republican-friendly NY Sun has turned against the party. They can’t possibly think Cheney would actually win, so the only explanation could be that they are trying to sabotage the Republican chances for the next presidential election.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:32 amRegarding the photo…
From the angle of Dick’s left arm, he’s holding something while hiding behind a Bush.
Question: Is he:
A.) Urinating
April 5th, 2007 at 9:32 amB.) Masturbating
C.) Holding the remote control
If Dick ran, even I would have to vote for Hillary!
April 5th, 2007 at 9:35 amIf Dick did run for Dictator in Chief, he’d probably have heart attack #6… Let’s hope so…
April 5th, 2007 at 9:36 amwhat the heck was he doing in those bushes?!?!!?
April 5th, 2007 at 9:39 amQuestion: Is he:
A.) Urinating
B.) Masturbating
C.) Holding the remote control
Comment by Friar Mynd
D.) All of the above.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:41 ami was watching cspan, and they had this shot where they were on Cheney, then they zoomed WAAY back to show just how far away he was….CREEEEEEEEEEPY!!!!!!
April 5th, 2007 at 9:41 amThe editorial says that Lynne would make one of the greatest first ladies ever: it doesn’t mention the possible lesbian “first daughter” to be and her probably artificially inseminated baby.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:41 amMore seriously, doesn’t anyone on the Sun’s editorial team know that Cheney once sought the Rethug nomination for preznit and didn’t get very far?
If Dick ran, even I would have to vote for Hillary!
Comment by hacker bob
Me, too. Yikes.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:41 am10,328: The number of housing complaints received in 2006 by the Department of Housing and Urban Development and Fair Housing Assistance Program agencies, “up 65% from the 6,270 complaints received in 1996.†Last year’s number was a record, “with disability and race as the leading reasons for filing a complaint.â€
And those are just the people who complained. Imagine how much worse it really is.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:42 amThe White House has unveiled a public Internet database that lists “all the pet spending projects lawmakers tucked in the federal budget for the 2004-05 fiscal year,†but does “not include the earmarks the president and his administration requested.â€
Don’t question the King!
April 5th, 2007 at 9:43 amThat’s a joke right? I have to laugh at that. Cheney running for President. No one would vote for that jerk only the 15% neocon nuts.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:44 amMaybe he’s reloading…..
April 5th, 2007 at 9:44 amI figured Dick was holding a shotgun.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:45 amTo summarize: The NY Sun editorial writers are clinically insane, Orrin Hatch is a completely misinformed fool, Bush is still trying to turn Social Security into another one of his corporate welfare programs, and Monica Goodling is a criminal who helped obstruct ongoing legal cases against Republicans.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:46 amSee Dick.
Dick likes hunting.
See Dick shoot a bird.
See Dick shoot a lawyer.
Dick likes hunting.
Now see Dick behind a Bush.
See Bush.
Bush is not behind a Bush.
Dick likes hunting.
…
Run Dick!
Run Dick run!
Uh oh.
All that running made Dick sick.
Dick’s heart was pumping.
Dick’s heart was pumping too hard.
Then Dick’s heart stopped pumping.
Dick’s heart needed a rest.
Dick died.
And the country lived happily ever after.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:48 amTo #25 Brian in FL
April 5th, 2007 at 9:49 amYou got it all right in a nutshell.
i was watching cspan, and they had this shot where they were on Cheney, then they zoomed WAAY back to show just how far away he was….CREEEEEEEEEEPY!!!!!!
Comment by whiteyfresh
Ugh. That makes it worse, doesn’t it?
April 5th, 2007 at 9:51 amBriseadh,
April 5th, 2007 at 9:52 amAre you sure that Dick actually has a heart?
Hypothetically speaking (and I do mean a HUGE hypothetic scenerio), If Dead Eye Dick won, his ticker wouldn’t last. That is almost a gimme.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:53 amBut oh, what damage he could do before his final breath.
YIKES
The Justice Department’s White House liaison Monica Goodling yesterday “refused a request from the House Judiciary Committee to answer questions in a private interview.â€
Okay, she’s stalling for time. She knows too much and doesn’t want to spill her guts before Gonzales takes the stand. She and her lawyer and Karl Rove want this to go so far that a special prosecutor is called. That will drag the process out for a year or more. They can probably squeeze two years out of it. While that’s going on, Bush and anyone else who is asked about it will refuse to comment while there’s “an ongoing investigation”. In the meantime, they can try to make a deal for immunity, but she’d pull an Ollie North. She’d get immunity and then claim sole responsibility for everything. She might be too involved to be the one getting immunity. There might be somebody else who knows what she was doing besides Rove and Miers.
The best way for Congress to handle this is probably to go the harsh route. Subpoena her. If she refuses to show up, as she seems to be indicating, she’ll be cited for contempt of Congress, and she can end up in jail for it. If they think she’s going to win sympathy while she’s sitting in jail, they’d better guess again. The majority of people in this country are fed up with the administration’s secrecy, lawbreaking, and stonewalling and they want Congress to do something about it.
April 5th, 2007 at 9:58 amWho is that scary man behind the Bush?
Why, that’s our very own Vice President!
(I’m just so proud.)
April 5th, 2007 at 9:58 amZooey:i’m…….not…..sure…..?
April 5th, 2007 at 9:58 amrachel maddow, of AirAmericaRadio, has been trying to get hatch to return her calls since monday…
April 5th, 2007 at 10:03 amuntil now, she’s been the only person to bring up that LIE…
a pretty stupid lie at that…
Zooey:i’m…….not…..sure…..?
Comment by whiteyfresh
I mean the creepy factor, whitey.
It would be kinda creepy if “Dick” were just standing behind a hedge a few feet away; but to me, the fact that he was standing really far away makes it more creepy.
Maybe I’m easily creeped out. :)
April 5th, 2007 at 10:06 amHAPPY BIRTHDAY, SPUDGE BOY!!
April 5th, 2007 at 10:12 amA new Amnesty International report states that conditions at Guantanamo Bay prison have worsened. “Most detainees have suffered harsh treatment throughout their detention,†the report says, and a new facility opened in December “has created even harsher and apparently more permanent conditions of extreme isolation and sensory deprivation
This just sooooo…sad….poor fascists murderers…I’m crying. I see AI is still pissed that George Bush liberated more people in twelve months than AI has in its entire history. But they can lie to the moonbats and raise some money that is the purpose of this “report”.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:15 amCaption Contest:
Cheney: “Almost done George”
Bush: “Remember: no matter how you shake and dance, the last little squirt goes down your pants – heh heh”
April 5th, 2007 at 10:16 amMy sense tells me that Shooter was lurking in the shadows to make sure the Cheerleader got the message right.
Now Shooter will go on the talk circuit over Easter to tell the American people how Democrats support terrorism & defeat.
Meanwhile, W sneaks in another 3 recess appointments w/o congressional vetting, including Fox the Swiftboater.
This is ‘in your face’ stuff. Bush decries congressional process while working an end around them at the same time he’s crying foul.
Chickenhawkshits, all of ‘em.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:17 amI wonder if Bush had that ‘thingie’ on his back like he did during the debates? Ah, who is the real wizard of OZ, US.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:18 amI suspect he was standing that far away so as not to be in the same camera shot as Bush, the “front man”. I think Cheney prefers being behind the scenes, protected by secrecy and “executive privelege” (”if you will”).
Of course, as with most other Cheney schemes, this one didn’t work out so well either.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:20 amorrin hatch is an unprincipled liar
April 5th, 2007 at 10:20 amCaption Contest:
Darth Cheney: “Pay no attention to the man behind the Bush”
April 5th, 2007 at 10:20 amZooey:Maybe it’s just the fact that he’s been using the ‘Robo-heart 3000′(TM), powered by puppy blood, that’s kept me creeped out for so long now….
April 5th, 2007 at 10:21 am#14, and #26… you both talked about VP Cheney having a heart attack/dying. Specifically:
and
So… what would your reaction be if I said that I hoped Mrs. Edwards cancer got markedly worse, and John Edwards had to drop out to take care of her?
April 5th, 2007 at 10:22 amI was just now thinking about the little square outline under georges shirt, as I was reading about Abu Gonzo feverishly rehearsing for his appearance…………….
April 5th, 2007 at 10:23 amZooey:Maybe it’s just the fact that he’s been using the ‘Robo-heart 3000′(TM), powered by puppy blood, that’s kept me creeped out for so long now….
Comment by whiteyfresh
That would keep your creep factor fairly high. :D
April 5th, 2007 at 10:23 amHarry Reid should dispense with senatorial comity and censure Orrin Hatch because of his lies about Carol Lam. Hatch’s lack of professional integrity has been revealed for the world to see, and as such, it’s a black mark against the Senate. Then Reid should follow that up by banning from the Senate floor any Republican senator who says “democrat” when it should be “Democratic”! The lies and insults are not insignificant, but like water dripping on stone, are the slow erosion of proper public discourse, political ethics, and mutual respect among political opponents.
As for Dick Cheney, we should be so lucky if he decides to enter the presidential race. Each day (night) would be like Dracula rising from his coffin to seek his next victim (American taxpayer), draining her of life-sustaining blood (plunding American treasury, looting million$$$). Rund, Dick, run. See Dick run.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:24 amFrom the editorial about Cheney:
Mr. Cheney has virtues as a candidate in his own right. He has foreign policy experience by virtue of having served as defense secretary, and he has economic policy experience, having served as a leading tax-cutter while a member of the House of Representatives. His wife, Lynne, would be an asset to the ticket in her own right, a point made by Kathryn Jean Lopez in a post on the topic at National Review Online back in February. By our rights, Lynne Cheney would make one of the greatest First Ladies in history.
Seriously, who wrote this? Did they even read it after they wrote it? This is supposed to be an editorial. Written by an EDITOR. Who is supposed to watch over his journalists and correct/modify poorly written stories.
Reading this editorial reminded me of something I wrote in school:
“The duck went in to the water. The duck swam in the water. The duck was wet. The duck has feathers. The duck was almost shot by the Vice-President. The duck was lucky the lawyer got hit first.”
I was 8.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:24 amthat’s interesting- what will Cheney do after (if he isn’t in Federal prision)? I can only imagine that he will be made an executive at either an Oil company, or go back to Halliburton (in Dubai of course to escape U.S. prosecution of war crimes, and war profiteering). He stands to make way too much money- and that is all important to Dick.
There is no way he is even considering running for another elected office- he will never get elected again (unless in Wyoming or Utah).
To be honest, and a realist, he probably doesn’t have too may years left on this Earth. Considering his age, heart problems, being over weight, and a generally unpleasant prick- I’d say he has about less than five years left in him. Unless of course it’s true and he already sold his soul to the Devil, that will mean he’ll be around torturing humanity for eons… What a DICK.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:24 amDarth Cheney: “Pay no attention to the man behind the Bushâ€
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
I believe we have a winner!!
Simple and to the point, yet powerful. :-D
April 5th, 2007 at 10:24 amCaption Contest:Dick-”Excuse me, is this the way to the White Witch’s castle? She has an appointment to see me…”
April 5th, 2007 at 10:25 am#45 Dale…
Fair point. But I’d like to put forth the idea that as a vampire, Cheney can’t die since he is undead.
Now, if someone had a wooden stake…
(Satire, folks. It’s called satire)
April 5th, 2007 at 10:28 amDale sez:
The difference between the two is that Elizabeth Edwards is not a leading member of the criminal neocon cabal that has hijacked our government, shredded the Constitution, and is doing everything in their power to rape and pillage this nation, as well as the entire Middle East.
But I suspect that distinction will be lost on you.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:30 am…and, there have been reports that hatch has been campaigning for the job of attorney general… i think it was leahy who brought that up that same day on MTP…
April 5th, 2007 at 10:30 amApparently that darned Dalai Lama is causing trouble again somewhere in the world. I wonder what Arab country he’s invaded and/or oppressed *this* time.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:32 amdale’s point would only be fair if
April 5th, 2007 at 10:33 amelizabeth edwards had been an evil, lying, secretive scumbag
who leaves death, destruction and ruined lives behind
her with every procedure she’s involved in…
#45 : I think if you asked a lot of people the same question they would agree :
Cheney = Evil
and I think a lot of people feel like me.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:38 amAfter all the EVIL that this man has cause the entire world : I feel it’s justified.
I’m guessing the Sun got a call from KKKarl with an offer they couldn’t refuse.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:38 amThis is only so much smoke blowing out their a$$es to get people riled up and distracted.
When Chainee was first presented as the VP during the 2000 campaign, I was flabbergasted.
What happened to the concept of the VP being the person who, being neccessarily a person in good health, could be capable of assuming the presidency?
Or who could have a chance of gaining the presidency after 8 years?
Chainee fit neither, and being aware of his background with Nixon, Reagan, and George senior, I was doubly concerned about what might be afoot.
Given that GW was obviously a complete incompetent to begin with…..
#45 Dale: If Dick Cheney died today of a heart attack, the country and the entire world would be better off. He’s lied to the American people, hidden behind closed doors in making policy decisions for the country, and been wrong about every prediction regarding the debacle that is the Iraq War.
To paraphrase Mr. Cheney, he can go f**k himself.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:41 amI read the news article you linked to, Dale…and one sentence jumped out at me:
How ‘recent’ is this document? Remember, every communication from “Osama bin Laden” since the “fatty bin Laden” video on has been bogus. Every single one.
Osama bin Laden has been dead since December of 2001. Who stands to gain by pretending he’s still alive?
April 5th, 2007 at 10:42 amGood morning, Daley Lamey!
April 5th, 2007 at 10:43 amHmm, so what about the evil that Bill Clinton has inflicted on many women… can I be happy about thinking *him* dead? What about if I did it when he was President?
Or what about the harm Kerry did to soldiers in Vietnam when he lied about all the ‘raping and pillaging’ they were doing… can I wish *him* dead?
Do you really find nothing wrong with wishing/hoping/laughing about our VP dead? Are you that empty?
April 5th, 2007 at 10:44 amYou’re asking me? This is a newspaper article fer pete’s sake.
I posted this because of the general feeling on the left that ‘if only we weren’t such evil people, then Islamic radicals wouldn’t attack us’.
Is the Dalai Lama evil?
April 5th, 2007 at 10:45 amDang TMM: You always post some really nice links to go with your thoughts…
kudos
April 5th, 2007 at 10:48 amDale sez:
You’re missing my point, Dale…but that’s to be expected.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:51 amAs a rule, I would never wish anyone to die. But, in this case re: Cheney.
I make a remarkable exception.
All the people that have died under this man’s shadowy government is staggering : (9/11, All the deaths in the 2 Illegal Wars, Katrina etc…)
Cheney = Evil.
I don’t know how else to say it.
It’s amazing for someone who has never been in the military himself (how many deferrments ??) — he’s so ready to put our men in women in harms way just to make money for Haliburton and for more oil and world domination.
Pure hegemony.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:52 amPure evil, that Cheney.
I hate this man.
DAle:which newspaper? when was the article published? who wrote it? Anything,man, ANYTHING
April 5th, 2007 at 10:52 amwhiteyfresh sez:
Thanks, WF…I post those links for people like yourself (I know the trolls don’t bother to read them). ^_^
April 5th, 2007 at 10:52 am#66, no, I got your point, but I was trying to stay on-topic.
#67, so Cheney’s responsible for 9/11 also? Was he aiming the missiles that struck the Pentagon? /sarc
#68. Did you follow the link in #56 whitey? Or would it be easier to understand if I reposted the whole article?
April 5th, 2007 at 10:55 amthere’s only one way to settle this: make the 2008 presidential election cheney vs. elizabeth edwards. who would win? [that's an easy one]
April 5th, 2007 at 10:56 am#71 : thank you.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:58 amDale sez:
On-topic??? On whose topic? I don’t see anything about the Dalai Lama in the topics listed above.
You were the one who raised the subject, Dale. Don’t whine when the discussion doesn’t proceed exactly as you envisioned.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:58 amYou’re missing my point, Dale…but that’s to be expected.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — April 5, 2007 @ 10:51 am
TMM: You know the only points trolls get are in their pants when they think of church, and little boys.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:02 amSen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said this week of purged U.S. attorney Carol Lam, “She’s a former law professor; no prosecutorial experience; and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton.â€
Here’s what happened: some republican intern for hatch or some other repub was given the task to go on the google or use the internets to “get some dirt on lam”–and got the wrong Carol Lam.
But what kind of research skills can you expect from a graduate of “liberty university” studying intelligent design?
April 5th, 2007 at 11:12 am#61 Thanks for the link. It would seem to make sense that Bin Laden may be dead after the comments made by Bush:.
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
April 5th, 2007 at 11:13 am- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
Dick run for president ? ! ?
April 5th, 2007 at 11:14 amThat’s a pretty good one.
He’s afraid to show is face in my town.
Seriously, they built a tent from where his car would drop him off to
the entry of his hotel so his war-pig a** wouldn’t see the light of day.
#1. Cheney running would be a way for this administration to have a full time PR campaign disguised as a Presidential run. Of course he’s got a snowball’s chance in hell of winning, but that wouldn’t be the point. Keeping the doofuses in the mainstream media focused on the Scooby Snack rather than the real stories WOULD.
#2. Someone needs to file a lawsuit against Orin Hatch. For anything–get some chick to say he fathered her baby or sold her drugs or squeezed her tits in a parking car garage or SOMETHING. Just get his ugly flapping piehole out of the media spotlight!
April 5th, 2007 at 11:16 amThe Dick, Cheney, is the epitome of what chronic disease looks like from the outside in. Obviously, he’s heartless as evidenced from his heart attacks and clogged arteries but his visage of pure evil is also evident in his facial expressions – even when he is not animated. I think Dems should encourage the crook to run; surely he’ll put the last nail in the coffin of the GOP if he does.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:19 am“Hatch Auditions for Attorney General Spot by Lying”
That’s a headline I’d like to see. Can’t believe the MSM isn’t jumping on this one. It’s no secret that Hatch wants Gonzalez’s job, but how ironic that he is attempting to secure the nation’s top “defender of the truth” job by lying–all to keep his cozy little self at the top of the heap of Bush’s AG replacement deck. Granted, he could have been “misinformed” about Lam’s background, but to repeat it after the misinformation has been pointed out to him is just plain, ol’ lying.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:19 amBush’s 6 years have been one corporate-owned PR campaign from the beginning. Clearly, managing this country is not their priority as stomping our the fires of the latest scandal have obsessed them….now that all of their dirty work has been done.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:20 amOrin Hatch has never had any credibility and certainly continues to besmerch his political reputation with each lying statement he makes. Hatch has become a mere cipher and is totally irrelevant.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:21 amMr. Cheney could not run in 2008. He will have already been President two full terms. Mr. Bush could run. He’s never been President.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:21 am#73, on the topic that I had posted about… as to “I don’t see anything about the Dalai Lama in the topics listed above.”, well, this *is* an open thread, right? So you ignored my point about Al Qaeda possibly targeting the Dalai Lama, and I ignored yours about whether or not bin Laden is dead.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:23 amAnd now St. Cindy is in trouble.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:30 am…Granted, he could have been “misinformed†about Lam’s background, but to repeat it after the misinformation has been pointed out to him is just plain, ol’ lying.
Comment by Michele Manion — April 5, 2007 @ 11:19 am
today is the first i’ve heard the “misinformed” excuse… well, ok…
but … WHY NOT ADMIT THE MISTAKE… AND APOLOGIZE… DAYS AGO ?
yep… “plain, ol’ lying” …
April 5th, 2007 at 11:31 amSend healing thought’s out to RUCerious and all in need of them today…Hug someone you love and tell them you love them, plant a tree or flower, send email’s to your representatives to start impeachment and investigation’s on this administration….Smile at every one you see they will think you are up to something…..Blessings
April 5th, 2007 at 11:31 amAnd, it looks like the fake bin Laden is at it again.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:31 am#87, RUCerious, my prayers are with you.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:32 amThe Dalai Lama has been a target since the day he was born, for any number of totalitatian elements.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:35 amRegimes who wish to control humanity through threat, deprivation and force seek to deny a (truly) spiritual path for humans. (Notice I did not use the term religious path, Dale)
If the Chinese had not run him out of Tibet for them, the CIA would have found an excuse for persecuting him.
In hindsight, it was fortunate the Chinese acted first, otherwise he might have had a “heart-attack”
what a dick!See Dick run…..There goes Dick with his “swiss miss” with Lynnie running behind him with his shotgun….hahahaha! what a visual!
April 5th, 2007 at 11:39 amHere’s more background on the Bush OMB fraud when it comes to earmarks.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:40 amDale sez:
And you’re seriously claiming to be stupid enough to fail to see the connection?
Fine. I’ll spell it out for you.
If a “terrorist threat” references as motivation a communication from a man whose communications have all been shown to be bogus since 2001, exactly how credible is the assumption that the terrorist group allegedly responsible for the “terrorist threat” is actually responsible?
Given this uncertainty, which is more probable? That a terrorist group attempts (and fails) to assassinate the Dalai Lama because of some nebulous theological dispute, or that an organization stages an “assassination attempt” against the Dalai Lama in an attempt to sway public opinion, reminding them of who they need to be afraid of and who is protecting them from the “threat”.
Put simply: false-flag attack. I’m not buying it, and I suspect there are many others who won’t, either.
Given this analysis, your specious question of ‘is the Dalai Lama evil?’ is beside the point.
So…how about you try to stay ‘on-topic’, mmmkay?
April 5th, 2007 at 11:42 amCheney for president!….oh my God, I just wet myself with anticipation…….laughter is all I can think of when I try to imagine Big Dick Cheney leading us on the world scene. Let’s see, the president of Exxon will become the secretary of Energy, Halliburton will automatically receive all government contracts, the Social Security Administration will be led by the president of Goldman Sachs, Health and Human Resources will be cut by 90% and the saving will go into the Save Israel account run by John Bolton, Karl Rove will be appointed to the Supreme Court as political advisor, Pat Robertson will become the secretary of Religion and Education……well, you get the idea. Cheney as president would be at least…….predictable.
April 5th, 2007 at 11:51 amWell, it looks like my last post went down the rabbit hole, so here we go again.
Dale sez:
And you’re honestly saying you’re so stupid you can’t see how the two are related?
Fine. I”ll spell it out for you.
Every communication from “bin Laden” since the “fatty bin Laden” video has been bogus. None have been shown to be authentic.
A terrorist organization attempts (and fails) to assassinate the Dalai Lama. A “recent communication” from the dead bin Laden is cited as the rationale.
Given these facts, what is more probable? That a terrorist organization attempted to assassinate the Dalai Lama, based upon a nebulous theological dispute delineated by a communication from beyond the grave, or that another organization created the appearance of said “terrorist incident” to remind its citizens of who to be afraid of, and who to trust to protect them from that fear?
In short: false-flag attack. I’m not buying it, and I suspect that many others here aren’t buying it either.
Do you seen now how my point was ‘on-topic’, Dale? Given the serious doubt that this was an authentic ‘terrorist incident’, your specious question of ‘is the Dalai Lama evil?’ takes on a new significance.
No, the Dalai Lama is not evil, Dale…which is precisely why he makes such an excellent target for a false-flag attack.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:11 pmDale sez:
Well, let’s hope that they can fins a passable actor this time around. Their last two attempts were pretty laughable.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:14 pmSo… what would your reaction be if I said that I hoped Mrs. Edwards cancer got markedly worse, and John Edwards had to drop out to take care of her?
Comment by Dale — April 5, 2007 @ 10:22 am
I would caution you to be careful about what you hope for. Understand the 105 Universal Laws before you go about making such a wish.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:29 pmWhat a great idea… Darth Cheney should run for President in 2008! The twisted reality that will spew from his mouth will be priceless and will be even more of a laughing stock than he is now. I DARE YOU CHENEY… RUN in 2008!
April 5th, 2007 at 12:41 pm#97, so maybe you should be careful about posting a little rhyme about a heart attack for VP Cheney?
April 5th, 2007 at 12:46 pmSo… what would your reaction be if I said that I hoped Mrs. Edwards cancer got markedly worse, and John Edwards had to drop out to take care of her?
Comment by Dale — April 5, 2007 @ 10:22 am
Well, I wouldn’t wish cancer on anyone, but the Edwards are milking this for political gain, so I’m not feeling too supportive. On Huffingtonpost, there’s an article which states that they’re hitting up well-wishers for campaign donations. If true, that’s pretty low.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:51 pmso maybe you should be careful about posting a little rhyme about a heart attack for VP Cheney?
Comment by Dale — April 5, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
If you believe in such things. Cheney, on the other hand, is one person I wish ill; his hands are stained with the blood of innocents, and he has besmirched America’s ideals and made them a mockery. America, and the world will be a better place without him.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:57 pm#95, you’re assuming that the theory that bin Laden is dead, and *the US* is putting out these tapes, is true. But that is only a theory put forth by a few individuals; one denied even as late as 09/06 by people as diverse as the CIA director, the Saudis, and the French. (google it).
But let’s assume for one moment that bin Laden IS dead. The article in question said “SECURITY surrounding the Dalai Lama has been tightened after reports of an attempt by the al-Qa’ida-linked terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Toiba” (emphasis mine). Further down it says “Lashkar-e-Toiba is believed to be al-Qa’ida’s agent in South Asia and has been involved in virtually every major terrorist attack in India.” (emphasis mine).
And in my posts, I never said that bin Laden was targeting him… in fact only in #84 did I mention Al Qaeda… which should really have said Al-Qaeda-linked.
So the article is about Al-Qaeda-linked threats against the Dalai Lama.
Which means your inane supposition that bin Laden is dead is, well, inane.
That whole cognitive reasoning thing *is* pretty hard for you, isn’t it Hendler?
April 5th, 2007 at 12:58 pm#100 I hadn’t seen that, and hope it isn’t true. While I don’t agree with Mr. Edwards political views, I *do* hope that he isn’t the type to take advantage of his wifes’ illness, so I’ll reserve judgement unless there’s proof otherwise.
And btw, just so you know, I *DO NOT* wish anything bad on Mrs. Edwards. I just get angry when I see people of ANY political persuasion reviling in the sickness/death (or imagined death) of someone like I did in the two posts I mentioned. Yeah, call for his impeachment… yeah, call him a criminal, but to gleefully talk about his death? Ridiculous.
April 5th, 2007 at 1:02 pmIn spite of being a “newly formed” company, RMI received a no-bid contract because they were the only ones who could do the job. Yeah, right. Where have we heard that before? RMI is run by a man named Robert Raggio. Could Mr. Raggio be a relative of Nevada Senate Majority Leader William Raggio (R) Reno? Or is he Lt. Gen. Robert “Bob” Raggio (Ret.) former commander, Aeronautical Systems Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio? Or could he be both?
(Note: “Wright-Patterson the largest of three product centers within Air Force Materiel Command. The center designs, develops and delivers dominant aerospace weapon systems and capabilities for U.S. Air Force, other U.S. military, allied and coalition-partner warfighters, in support of Air Force leadership priorities.”)
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April 5th, 2007 at 1:08 pmMalkin and her ilk have grown both fat and crafty suckling at the teat of Rove.
Dale sez:
Show me one verified communication from OBL since December of 2001. Just one.
Um, did you actually read the article you linked to, Dale?
From the article:
You didn’t need to reference OBL…the article you cited did it for you.
There’s more to your post, but since it failed utterly to address my points, there’s no point in responding.
There is one other thing I would like to address, however:
This is the second time (the second time I’ve noticed, at any rate) that you’ve referred to me as ‘Hendler’. Care to explain?
April 5th, 2007 at 1:09 pm#97, so maybe you should be careful about posting a little rhyme about a heart attack for VP Cheney?
Comment by Dale — April 5, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
I wrote a fairy tale in the form and style of a children’s book. Do you know the difference between a fairy tale and hoping someone’s cancer gets worse?
I understand the 105 Universal laws, and how to use them to affect reality, as well as the consequences for misusing them. Do you?
April 5th, 2007 at 1:13 pmComment by barfly — April 5, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
Barfly, the same caution I gave Dale, I give to you. Have you read and do you understand the 105 Universal Laws?
April 5th, 2007 at 1:16 pm#107, Your “fairy tale” talked about VP Cheney dying, and the “country living happily ever after”. Some fairy tale. Your ‘fairy tale’ is not better than if someone hoped that Mrs. Edwards cancer got worse.
I don’t believe in the veracity of the 105 Universal laws, so I am not really concerned about any ‘consequences’ of misusing them.
April 5th, 2007 at 1:21 pm#100… Edwards’ aides apparently confirmed it today… here’s a link to NYP. Man, that’s just not right.
April 5th, 2007 at 1:33 pmHow long until the Edwards fiasco becomes a story on TP? Oh, wait, what am I thinking!
April 5th, 2007 at 1:46 pmHow much longer until Dale stops ducking me and answers my earlier post?
Oh, wait, what am I thinking!
April 5th, 2007 at 2:11 pm#111, I *did* respond to you, apparently it was deleted. Basically:
While bin Laden was mentioned, he was not the source of the threat… it was an Al-Qaeda-linked group. bin Laden being dead is only a theory, one which I don’t believe, I’m not about to waste my time trying to prove something to you. But whether he’s dead or alive, the main thrust of the article was an al Qaeda-linked group is the source of the threat.
As far hendler, I was under the impression that was your name, if I’m mistaken I apologize.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:20 pmComment by Sharon — April 5, 2007 @ 11:31 am
My best wishes are with RUC today. And your words are always a blessing.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:36 pmDale sez:
Missing the point again, Dale…
I’ll repost the relevant passage from the article yet again.
This passage is clearly linking the activities of the al Qaeda-affiliated terrorist organization to a recent communication from OBL.
If you’re so skeptical, just find one authentic communication from OBL more recent than December of 2001. That’s all.
When you fail at that, you might then consider why the 2000 ‘fatty bin Laden’ and the 2004 ‘bin Laden’ from the video tapes are not the same person…and why neither of them is the authentic bin Laden.
Typical. I’ll take that as the capitulation it so obviously is.
If you’re going to link to an article, Dale, you have to stand behind all of it, not just the bits and pieces convenient for you. The article was pretty darned clear on where the motivation of the “terrorists” came from. Given the evidence, it’s far more likely that this is just another false-flag operation, which brings us back to your original question.
No, the Dalai Lama is not evil, Dale…which is precisely why he makes such an excellent target for a false-flag attack.
Just one more thing:
Now what would give you that ‘impression’, Dale?
April 5th, 2007 at 2:41 pmWhat… you want me to find something that’ll meet *your* standards for authenticity? Just who are you again?
Take it however you’d like. I’d have the same response if you asked for proof of any other wild conspiracy theory.
I do stand behind all of it. The article only fails if you have the paranoid belief that the US is really the ones releasing videos of bin Laden.
Basically, I’m not going to waste the time trying to either prove or disprove any paranoid theories you may have. Should I try to disprove the boogeyman too? (cue the Bush-boogeyman comparisons)
April 5th, 2007 at 2:50 pmSorry, forgot this part. My fellow RNC operatives, utilizing data obtained through the Patriot Act, gave me this info. Happy?
April 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pmRe the observation:
hasn’t anyone noted that the FY2004-2005 period would be associated with the prior Publican-controlled Congress? So, has the White House decided to finally throw all of the surviving Publican Congressional incumbents under the bus? That’s what this database does. It definitively highlights the general corruption of the Publicans, even if it doesn’t address the earmarks the WH requested. How can anyone trust Publicans with the national Treasury ever again?
April 5th, 2007 at 2:56 pmBarfly, the same caution I gave Dale, I give to you. Have you read and do you understand the 105 Universal Laws?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Yes, I have read them. And I have read many other religious treatise; do I believe in it/them? No. But that doesn’t mean you can’t, if you wish to. It’s America; believe whatever gives you spiritual validation — but don’t lecture those who don’t believe, OK? I’m a realist. I’ve seen too much wanton death to believe in “higher powers.”
April 5th, 2007 at 2:56 pmComment by Dale — April 5, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Comment by Dale — April 5, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
It’s so fun to watch you self-destruct, Dale. Always makes my day. ^_^
April 5th, 2007 at 2:59 pm#119, glad I could enrich your little world.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pmComment by barfly — April 5, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Fair enough.
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April 5th, 2007 at 4:11 pmI’m all for Cheney as President.
They have already halfway destroyed the country. If Cheney was elected he would be sure to totally destroy it… in a short amount of time.
IMO, the destruction of the US is inevitable. That being the case, as far as I’m concerned, the quicker we get it over with, the better. Thereby we would at least have some impetus to rebuild America, as opposed to watching the slow painful, prolonged death, that we are now having to endure.
Anyway, Cheney has been the main architect of expanded Presidential powers. He has been planning this for several decades now. Anybody that thinks that he will relinquish these hard won powers to a Democratic President is a FOOL.
The Federal Reserve will most certainly drive the US into a full-blown depression by mid next year. This will serve as a pretext for them to suspend election and Cheney will then assume control. Good luck stopping them now that the Feds have control over State National Guards.
Cheney will most definitely become President/Emperor. I have absolutely no doubt about it… mark my words on it.
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