Comments on: Post columnist defends Pelosi. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:44:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3534825 JPark Sun, 08 Apr 2007 02:10:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3534825 #22 No, Hendler, she didn't. Get a law degree or shut up. #22 No, Hendler, she didn’t. Get a law degree or shut up.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3534797 JPark Sun, 08 Apr 2007 02:09:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3534797 #7 Forrest, the Logan Act has never and will never apply to members of Congress. Der. #7 Forrest, the Logan Act has never and will never apply to members of Congress. Der.

]]> By: pluky http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3527558 pluky Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:53:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3527558 If Shrub can shriek <em>Executive Priviledge </em>every time someone wants to peak in his, or his staff's, dirty laundry, I say Madame Speaker has an equal right to <em>Congressional Priviledge</em> to meet with anyone she pleases who is not a declared enemy of the USA. If Shrub can shriek Executive Priviledge every time someone wants to peak in his, or his staff’s, dirty laundry, I say Madame Speaker has an equal right to Congressional Priviledge to meet with anyone she pleases who is not a declared enemy of the USA.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3522963 WC Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:48:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3522963 <em>Pelosi committed a felony by talking to Syria against the wishes of the Bush administration. You cannot effectively handle / deal with an adversary, when a member of the opposition party is engaging with that adversary in a separate effort. To make matters far worse, she bungled it. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — April 7, 2007 @ 10:03 am</em> And what of the other group of Republicans that are also visiting Syria? Why are they there? Did the Bush administration denounce their trip as well? No? Why not? She bungled it? Proof? Bush doesn't give a damn about diplomacy. Because if he had pushed for it in Iraq after the G-damned mess he made, and took the lead in trying to quell the violence in Iraq, then the "war" there may have ended years ago. With the civil war they have over there, the answer is not to pour more American troops into the mix. The answer is to find a way to end it without more bloodshed, if Bush truly wants peace in the Mid East. But he doesn't want that. Wouldn't have been "prudent," to borrow a favorite word of his father, to have and end to the war so early on. Oh no...bin Laden and al Quaeda and the terror threat level system and "war" on terror have all worked quite well for the president. If not for the "war," Bush would have been out on his ass in 2004. Social Security reform and tax cuts and pitiful attempts to "reform" healthcare would not have saved him. Billions in revenue from no-bid contracts for corporate friends of the president (see Haliburton) notwithstanding, all the war-related things I mentioned above have served him well. Because without them, there would have been no "if Kerry wins, we'll be attacked again" or "the Democrats are on bin Laden's side" or "if the Democrats win Congress, the terrorists win" bullshit. Pelosi committed a felony by talking to Syria against the wishes of the Bush administration. You cannot effectively handle / deal with an adversary, when a member of the opposition party is engaging with that adversary in a separate effort. To make matters far worse, she bungled it.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler — April 7, 2007 @ 10:03 am

And what of the other group of Republicans that are also visiting Syria? Why are they there? Did the Bush administration denounce their trip as well? No? Why not?

She bungled it? Proof?

Bush doesn’t give a damn about diplomacy. Because if he had pushed for it in Iraq after the G-damned mess he made, and took the lead in trying to quell the violence in Iraq, then the “war” there may have ended years ago. With the civil war they have over there, the answer is not to pour more American troops into the mix. The answer is to find a way to end it without more bloodshed, if Bush truly wants peace in the Mid East.

But he doesn’t want that. Wouldn’t have been “prudent,” to borrow a favorite word of his father, to have and end to the war so early on.

Oh no…bin Laden and al Quaeda and the terror threat level system and “war” on terror have all worked quite well for the president. If not for the “war,” Bush would have been out on his ass in 2004. Social Security reform and tax cuts and pitiful attempts to “reform” healthcare would not have saved him.

Billions in revenue from no-bid contracts for corporate friends of the president (see Haliburton) notwithstanding, all the war-related things I mentioned above have served him well. Because without them, there would have been no “if Kerry wins, we’ll be attacked again” or “the Democrats are on bin Laden’s side” or “if the Democrats win Congress, the terrorists win” bullshit.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3522705 WC Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:34:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3522705 <em>No Jason the world is not ready for incapable sexist like you.Thing is you and your fella repuke poseurs hate diplomacy. Comment by Hector Garcia — April 7, 2007 @ 12:20 pm</em> Well said! No Jason the world is not ready for incapable sexist like you.Thing is you and your fella repuke poseurs hate diplomacy.

Comment by Hector Garcia — April 7, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

Well said!

]]> By: Hector Garcia http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3519829 Hector Garcia Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:20:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3519829 No Jason the world is not ready for incapable sexist like you.Thing is you and your fella repuke poseurs hate diplomacy. No Jason the world is not ready for incapable sexist like you.Thing is you and your fella repuke poseurs hate diplomacy.

]]> By: Jason M. Hendler http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3515140 Jason M. Hendler Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:03:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3515140 Pelosi committed a felony by talking to Syria against the wishes of the Bush administration. You cannot effectively handle / deal with an adversary, when a member of the opposition party is engaging with that adversary in a separate effort. To make matters far worse, she bungled it. I think this does not bode well for Hill'reh Clinton. Whereas, the US has created an environment that has allowed Nancy and Hill'reh to rise to power, the world is a far different place, and this proves that American women are not yet ready to step onto the world stage. Pelosi committed a felony by talking to Syria against the wishes of the Bush administration. You cannot effectively handle / deal with an adversary, when a member of the opposition party is engaging with that adversary in a separate effort. To make matters far worse, she bungled it.

I think this does not bode well for Hill’reh Clinton. Whereas, the US has created an environment that has allowed Nancy and Hill’reh to rise to power, the world is a far different place, and this proves that American women are not yet ready to step onto the world stage.

]]> By: troll alert http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3501031 troll alert Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:16:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3501031 <strong>JAKE</strong> JAKE

]]> By: JIMBO http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3500384 JIMBO Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:40:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3500384 Jake, you're a jerk. Jake, you're a joke. Jake, let's face it, you are a sexist mind warped asskisser for the Chimperor Boy King God. All you need is a pair of leather bikinis and you can just pucker your lips toward his dirty skanky butt. Guess that proves that in your sick mind, the hypocrites are right and the honest ones are wrong. VIVA, PRESIDENT PELOSI. Jake, you’re a jerk.

Jake, you’re a joke.

Jake, let’s face it, you are a sexist mind warped asskisser for the Chimperor Boy King God. All you need is a pair of leather bikinis and you can just pucker your lips toward his dirty skanky butt.

Guess that proves that in your sick mind, the hypocrites are right and the honest ones are wrong.

VIVA, PRESIDENT PELOSI.

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3500103 Raymond Funamoto Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:26:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3500103 Eugene Robinson---A TRUE JOURNALIST WITH GUTS AND BALLS, AND A CONSCIENCE--WHAT A RARITY AMONG THE CRAVEN MSM BASTARDS, INCLUDING THE HOST OF "HARDBALL", Mr. Tweety-Softballs Chris Matthews, WHO PANDERS TO AND ROLLS OVER FOR Monkey Boy CHIMPya and Bushland Uber Allies---SHAMEFUL FOOLS!!!!! Eugene Robinson—A TRUE JOURNALIST WITH GUTS AND BALLS, AND A CONSCIENCE–WHAT A RARITY AMONG THE CRAVEN MSM BASTARDS, INCLUDING THE HOST OF “HARDBALL”, Mr. Tweety-Softballs Chris Matthews, WHO PANDERS TO AND ROLLS OVER FOR Monkey Boy CHIMPya and Bushland Uber Allies—SHAMEFUL FOOLS!!!!!

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3497163 big papa Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:16:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3497163 <strong>Mr. Robinson is one of the very FEW true journalists left in this God-forsaken plutocracy... ...the fascists have their tenacles everywhere, all throughout the msm... ...Robinson always tells it like it is... ...straight up, no spin... ...But I still say Nancy made a HUGE mistake... ...amening Bushiva's FAILED, wreckless, and dangerous foreign policy... ...she should've just said she was on a fact finding misssion...</strong> Mr. Robinson is one of the very FEW true journalists left in this God-forsaken plutocracy…

…the fascists have their tenacles everywhere, all throughout the msm…

…Robinson always tells it like it is…

…straight up, no spin…

…But I still say Nancy made a HUGE mistake…

…amening Bushiva’s FAILED, wreckless, and dangerous foreign policy…

…she should’ve just said she was on a fact finding misssion…

]]> By: Marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3491106 Marlow Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:35:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3491106 Little death-cult babies are sore because a girl stole away their plans to double down on the Iraq disaster. Some other time, scumbags. Little death-cult babies are sore because a girl stole away their plans to double down on the Iraq disaster. Some other time, scumbags.

]]> By: Hector Garcia http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3487659 Hector Garcia Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:22:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3487659 The repukes just cannot understand how a female politician can grow some balls and put the duo of losers to shame.Leadership and diplomacy, values absent in this moronic administration. The repukes just cannot understand how a female politician can grow some balls and put the duo of losers to shame.Leadership and diplomacy, values absent in this moronic administration.

]]> By: johnjacobjingleheimerschmitt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3484639 johnjacobjingleheimerschmitt Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:27:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3484639 Jake just wants Pelosi dead so she can't assume the Presidency when Bush and Cheney are finally impeached. Jake just wants Pelosi dead so she can’t assume the Presidency when Bush and Cheney are finally impeached.

]]> By: DutchHenry http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3484561 DutchHenry Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:24:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3484561 The righties hate her for being right, for being diplomatic, for doing the right thing — the antithesis of their boy-king. Comment by Marie ****Couldn't have said it any better.Well said Marie. The righties hate her for being right, for being diplomatic, for doing the right thing — the antithesis of their boy-king.

Comment by Marie

****Couldn’t have said it any better.Well said Marie.

]]> By: Trekkie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3484471 Trekkie Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:19:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3484471 <em>Arrest Pelosi as soon as she returns to the U.S., put her on trial for treason, and execute her.</em> Jake, show me a DECLARATION OF WAR against SYRIA that has been PASSED BY CONGRESS or stop talking out of your a**! You CANNOT be tried for TREASON unless you engage in givng aid and comfort to the ENEMY. As far as I know, Syria has NOT been declared to be an enemy of the United States by Congress or the President. And if you're so hot to trot about this, then we'd better arrest, try and execute the other 12 Representatives (including the 5 REPUBLICANS who went to Syria) because they DID THE SAME DAMN THING! Good lord, you are so dense you rival black holes. Arrest Pelosi as soon as she returns to the U.S., put her on trial for treason, and execute her.

Jake, show me a DECLARATION OF WAR against SYRIA that has been PASSED BY CONGRESS or stop talking out of your a**!

You CANNOT be tried for TREASON unless you engage in givng aid and comfort to the ENEMY. As far as I know, Syria has NOT been declared to be an enemy of the United States by Congress or the President.

And if you’re so hot to trot about this, then we’d better arrest, try and execute the other 12 Representatives (including the 5 REPUBLICANS who went to Syria) because they DID THE SAME DAMN THING!

Good lord, you are so dense you rival black holes.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3484425 Marie Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:13:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3484425 Pelosi has made Bush look even more ignorant so the right wingers are having a collective vertical hissy. They can't help it -- they backed a spoiled boy-king who lies, who keeps secrets, who uses people then tosses them, who employs failures like himself, and who has public temper tantrums when he doesn't get his way. Pelosi is the adult now and is taking first steps toward re-establishing the relations that have been trashed by the moron in the White House for more than 6 years. The righties hate her for being right, for being diplomatic, for doing the right thing -- the antithesis of their boy-king. Pelosi has made Bush look even more ignorant so the right wingers are having a collective vertical hissy. They can’t help it — they backed a spoiled boy-king who lies, who keeps secrets, who uses people then tosses them, who employs failures like himself, and who has public temper tantrums when he doesn’t get his way.
Pelosi is the adult now and is taking first steps toward re-establishing the relations that have been trashed by the moron in the White House for more than 6 years. The righties hate her for being right, for being diplomatic, for doing the right thing — the antithesis of their boy-king.

]]> By: Ringo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3484162 Ringo Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:56:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3484162 <blockquote>so i guess Hastert should be tried for the Logan Act, too</blockquote> ---------------------------- Sure, what the hell.

so i guess Hastert should be tried for the Logan Act, too

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Sure, what the hell.

]]> By: Jake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3483416 Jake Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:37:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3483416 Arrest Pelosi as soon as she returns to the U.S., put her on trial for treason, and execute her. Arrest Pelosi as soon as she returns to the U.S., put her on trial for treason, and execute her.

]]> By: peg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-3483254 peg Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:31:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/06/post-columnist-defends-pelosi/#comment-3483254 so i guess Hastert should be tried for the Logan Act, too. <blockquote>"... if Republicans are really concerned about a congressional majority undermining the executive branch’s foreign policy responsibilities, they ought to look in the mirror. In 1997, Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) led a delegation to Colombia at a time when U.S. officials were trying to attach human rights conditions to U.S. security assistance programs. Hastert specifically encouraged Colombian military officials to “bypass” President Clinton and “communicate directly with Congress.” …a congressional delegation led by Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) which met with Colombian military officials, promising to “remove conditions on assistance” and complaining about “leftist-dominated” U.S. congresses of years past that “used human rights as an excuse to aid the left in other countries.” Hastert said he would to correct this situation and expedite aid to countries allied in the war on drugs and also encouraged Colombian military officials to “bypass the U.S. executive branch and communicate directly with Congress.” Subsequently, U.S. Ambassador to Colombia Myles Frechette sent a cable complaining that Hastert’s actions had undermined his leverage with the Colombian military leadership. In other instances, Hastert actually guided congressional staff to unilaterally reach deals with Colombian officials. ..."</blockquote> http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10416.html so i guess Hastert should be tried for the Logan Act, too.

“… if Republicans are really concerned about a congressional majority undermining the executive branch’s foreign policy responsibilities, they ought to look in the mirror.

In 1997, Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) led a delegation to Colombia at a time when U.S. officials were trying to attach human rights conditions to U.S. security assistance programs. Hastert specifically encouraged Colombian military officials to “bypass” President Clinton and “communicate directly with Congress.”

…a congressional delegation led by Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) which met with Colombian military officials, promising to “remove conditions on assistance” and complaining about “leftist-dominated” U.S. congresses of years past that “used human rights as an excuse to aid the left in other countries.” Hastert said he would to correct this situation and expedite aid to countries allied in the war on drugs and also encouraged Colombian military officials to “bypass the U.S. executive branch and communicate directly with Congress.”

Subsequently, U.S. Ambassador to Colombia Myles Frechette sent a cable complaining that Hastert’s actions had undermined his leverage with the Colombian military leadership.

In other instances, Hastert actually guided congressional staff to unilaterally reach deals with Colombian officials. …”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10416.html

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