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That&#039;s right, Iron-handed Saddam had a few MILLION fundamentalist Islamic terrorists in his secular country.  Amazing.

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		<description>You want to know why, BM? Because the fraud was being committed for Israel, with the full participation of Ariel Sharonâ€™s government.

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Robert Dreyfuss explains all this in a July 2003 article for The Nation called â€œMore Missing Intelligenceâ€:

â€œAccording to the former official, also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel....â€

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030707/dreyfuss ....

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Bush and Cheney URGENTLY need to be impeached and prosecuted fully as the war criminals they are. ..A fine article, but--instead of saying â€œ...a war costing tens of thousands of lives and an expected $1 trillion that served no valid national security purposeâ€, I would say a war costing 658,000 lives (excellent Johns Hopkins/Lancet study covering up to July 2006, plus number of US military) and an expected $2.2 trillion (excellent Stiglitz-Bilmes study that they now consider too low) that harmed our national security (16 intelligence agencies of the US plus every study in the world). 

It is far more reasonable to go with what the Downing Street Memo (and all other evidence) shows--that we wanted to take Iraq and any intelligence would be made up later, than to bend over backwards trying to explain why all the intelligence was so â€œflawedâ€.  Werenâ€™t the reasons for the last 100 US invasions of other countries later found to not be true.  &lt;strong&gt;I like books by William Blum and Stephen Kinzer.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to know why, BM? Because the fraud was being committed for Israel, with the full participation of Ariel Sharonâ€™s government.</p>
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<p>Robert Dreyfuss explains all this in a July 2003 article for The Nation called â€œMore Missing Intelligenceâ€:</p>
<p>â€œAccording to the former official, also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel&#8230;.â€</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030707/dreyfuss" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030707/dreyfuss</a> &#8230;.</p>
<p>So now the mass media is finally catching up with the 10/04 edition of Mother Jones-whcih described in detail Feithâ€™s and the other neoconsâ€™ criminal plotting and shenanigans. It is titled â€œthe Irag lie factory.â€</p>
<p>Bush and Cheney URGENTLY need to be impeached and prosecuted fully as the war criminals they are. ..A fine article, but&#8211;instead of saying â€œ&#8230;a war costing tens of thousands of lives and an expected $1 trillion that served no valid national security purposeâ€, I would say a war costing 658,000 lives (excellent Johns Hopkins/Lancet study covering up to July 2006, plus number of US military) and an expected $2.2 trillion (excellent Stiglitz-Bilmes study that they now consider too low) that harmed our national security (16 intelligence agencies of the US plus every study in the world). </p>
<p>It is far more reasonable to go with what the Downing Street Memo (and all other evidence) shows&#8211;that we wanted to take Iraq and any intelligence would be made up later, than to bend over backwards trying to explain why all the intelligence was so â€œflawedâ€.  Werenâ€™t the reasons for the last 100 US invasions of other countries later found to not be true.  <strong>I like books by William Blum and Stephen Kinzer.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3560038', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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The Washington Post reported on a declassified Pentagon Inspector General report which said that captured Iraqi documents and intelligence interrogations have â€œall confirmedâ€ that Saddam was not directly cooperating with al Qaeda before the U.S. in...</description>
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<p>The Washington Post reported on a declassified Pentagon Inspector General report which said that captured Iraqi documents and intelligence interrogations have â€œall confirmedâ€ that Saddam was not directly cooperating with al Qaeda before the U.S. in&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3559693', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/07/feith-naked-incoherence/comment-page-2/#comment-3555790</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one trippin, I have to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one trippin, I have to agree.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3555790', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: trippin</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/07/feith-naked-incoherence/comment-page-2/#comment-3554042</link>
		<dc:creator>trippin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only the most silly brand of tube steak would believe for one second we invaded Iraq to &quot;liberate&quot; it.   This is only the latest in a string of excuses that turned out to be lies.   Iraq will NEVER be free until we&#039;ve pumped out all its oil.  

It&#039;s obvious that the 600,000 Iraqis who&#039;ve died since Bush diverted our military from capturing the perpetrator of 9/11 don&#039;t matter to these radicals one bit.  The pure and simple fact is that right wingers think Iraqis are subhuman chattel that just happen to live on our God-given oil.  

And yes, some might be bone-deep gullible enough to believe everything their daddy figure Cheney tells them.   After all, their lives are guided by a great big invisible man who lives up in the sky who has nothing better to do than watch their every move so he can decide whether to torture the crap out of them for eternity after they&#039;ve died, so believing that Bush converses with Jesus is only a hop, skip and jump from that.    But hey, zipperheads, you don&#039;t see these &quot;liberators&quot; rushing into Darfur, do you?  It&#039;s a pathetic, sick joke, and you&#039;re the butt.

It is entertaining to watch these pickle-suckers flail about senselssly in their goofy self-righteousness now that they are in such a vanishingly small minority as to be insignificant in charting our future course.   Yes, to be sure, they have all the mainstream media outlets shoveling their propaganda at us, but about 70% of Americans are hip to the deception.

It&#039;s over, zipperheads, it&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only the most silly brand of tube steak would believe for one second we invaded Iraq to &#8220;liberate&#8221; it.   This is only the latest in a string of excuses that turned out to be lies.   Iraq will NEVER be free until we&#8217;ve pumped out all its oil.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that the 600,000 Iraqis who&#8217;ve died since Bush diverted our military from capturing the perpetrator of 9/11 don&#8217;t matter to these radicals one bit.  The pure and simple fact is that right wingers think Iraqis are subhuman chattel that just happen to live on our God-given oil.  </p>
<p>And yes, some might be bone-deep gullible enough to believe everything their daddy figure Cheney tells them.   After all, their lives are guided by a great big invisible man who lives up in the sky who has nothing better to do than watch their every move so he can decide whether to torture the crap out of them for eternity after they&#8217;ve died, so believing that Bush converses with Jesus is only a hop, skip and jump from that.    But hey, zipperheads, you don&#8217;t see these &#8220;liberators&#8221; rushing into Darfur, do you?  It&#8217;s a pathetic, sick joke, and you&#8217;re the butt.</p>
<p>It is entertaining to watch these pickle-suckers flail about senselssly in their goofy self-righteousness now that they are in such a vanishingly small minority as to be insignificant in charting our future course.   Yes, to be sure, they have all the mainstream media outlets shoveling their propaganda at us, but about 70% of Americans are hip to the deception.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s over, zipperheads, it&#8217;s over.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3554042', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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