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Good one, Rudi.
April 7th, 2007 at 12:52 pmyikes… after reading THAT, i’m not sure his elevator goes all the way to the top floor…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
April 7th, 2007 at 12:56 pmDo you know which country is which over there, Rudy Ghoulee?
April 7th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI agree. Jihadists caused 911. Iran supports Jihadists. Don’t blame Guiliani for thinking broad.
April 7th, 2007 at 12:56 pmApparently, every day continues to be “opposite” day in Republican World.
Rudy don’t repeat whatever nonsense Michael Ledeen tells you.
April 7th, 2007 at 12:56 pm…and YOUR right wing Bushite family members, neighbors, co-workers and friends…
…want to vote for this murderous, racist, Mafia thug…
…because of his performance on 9/11?
…what did he do on 9/11except walk around posturing for the cameras?
…it’s my understanding that the emergency communications were abysmal…
…causing even more casualties….
…he’s another George W. Bush (or worse) waiting to happen…
…only with the Guiliani administration…
…Blacks, Hispanics, and other ethnic minorities…
…will have to leave America…
…or fight a race war…
…mark my words…
April 7th, 2007 at 12:59 pmIf you think about it, gays were responsible for 9/11, err ah, I mean Hollywood, err ah, I mean Bill Clinton, yeah, that the ticket, it was Clinton.
April 7th, 2007 at 12:59 pmYou know it really is us vs. them whether you like it or not. I don’t like it, but it is reality. Christian west vs. Muslim east. That’s reality.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:00 pmThe US, Britain, and Israel have been supporting Jihadists for over a century now
So if you think about it, all three countries are responsible for supporting radical Islamists eventually tied to al Qaeda, just so we can undermine Arab Nationalism
So if you want to look broad, our funding of radical Islamists caused 9/11
Don’t blame me for thinking broad
April 7th, 2007 at 1:02 pmChristian west vs. Muslim east. That’s reality.
Comment by jeff
Lebron is playing for who?
April 7th, 2007 at 1:02 pmWTF? The lisping fascist displays his ignorance of foreign countries and Islam.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:03 pm#8. Exactly what issue are you addressing?
April 7th, 2007 at 1:04 pmAre Guiliani and McCain running to see who can get booted out of the race faster. Maybe the quicker you’re out the quicker you get to pocket campaign contributions.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:05 pmGiuliani = Whore*
*apologies to whores
April 7th, 2007 at 1:05 pmIf you think about it Giuliani is just another republican hack.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:06 pmThe old formula.
Make up enemies so frustrated common people start feeling some kind of success. Then you get support for whatever stupidity you come up with.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:06 pm#8. Exactly what issue are you addressing?
Comment by Jeffrey Stewart — April 7, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
I suspect the demons in his head.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:06 pmWell, now, I guess we all know who the next Republican Presidential Candidate will be…
April 7th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThe good news is Rudi has about as much of a chance as being elected President as my left nut.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:10 pmHe is pandering to war mongers that Iran was behind 9/11…that is the guy who want to be next president…Good luck
April 7th, 2007 at 1:11 pmI blame all Muslims for the behavior of Jihadists. Most Americans do.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:12 pmDoesn’t mean I support the war or Bush or Guiliani.
You know it really is us vs. them whether you like it or not. I don’t like it, but it is reality. Christian west vs. Muslim east. That’s reality.
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
One of the BEST arguments I’ve heard against religion… Odd that it came from a religious rightwinger…
April 7th, 2007 at 1:15 pmbig papa your delivery has deteriorated over the months/years.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:16 pmI blame all Muslims for the behavior of Jihadists. Most Americans do.
Comment by jeff
So I blame all americans for what the bunch of crooks and hawks in this admin is doing to the world. See, how easy is to be stupid?
April 7th, 2007 at 1:18 pmThe good news is Rudi has about as much of a chance as being elected President as my left nut.
Comment by I WORFEUS
Well, I heard…..um….I think that…..well….ok, not going there. :D
April 7th, 2007 at 1:19 pmThe good news is Rudi has about as much of a chance as being elected President as my left nut.
Comment by I WORFEUS — April 7, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
Scary (for them), but good (for us) that he ’s the best and brightest the Republicans have. We need 8 years of a Democratic majority in all branches of government to fix the mess of 4 years of Rethuglican rule… And then I’d like to see a more moderate government…
April 7th, 2007 at 1:19 pmComment by jeff #23
Thanks for listening jeff…
…another satisfied customer…
April 7th, 2007 at 1:20 pmSo I blame all americans for what the bunch of crooks and hawks in this admin is doing to the world. See, how easy is to be stupid?
Comment by Juan C — April 7, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
Yes that’s actually what Americans do. They are left of center but they like to secretly elect father figures. Pretty weird, huh?
April 7th, 2007 at 1:22 pmThe good news is Rudi has about as much of a chance as being elected President as my left nut.
Comment by I WORFEUS — April 7, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
If the media wasn’t controlled by the right wing I’d kind of like to see Cheney get the nomination, sick as I am. It would be nice to have every Democrat pulling out every little piece of dirt on him. It would no doubt fill an encyclopedia.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:23 pmjeff,
Juan was calling YOU stupid. *sigh*
April 7th, 2007 at 1:24 pmI blame all Muslims for the behavior of Jihadists. Most Americans do.
Doesn’t mean I support the war or Bush or Guiliani.
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
Does this mean you blame all Christians for the behavior of the Nazis?
April 7th, 2007 at 1:24 pmI blame all Muslims for the behavior of Jihadists. Most Americans do.
Doesn’t mean I support the war or Bush or Guiliani.
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
You should blame your mother for letting you eat lead paint chips as a child.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:25 pmI blame all Muslims for the behavior of Jihadists. Most Americans do.
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
To be equal, then I blame all Christians for the actions of Bush and his henchmen…
If you don’t support their war mongering, then by all means, kick them out ofyour religion. But you won’t. Just like the Catholic Church not only enabled Hilter and his Henchmen, but they have NEVER excommunicated him…
April 7th, 2007 at 1:25 pmOh come on, everybody knows 9/11 was all Bill Clinton’s fault.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:26 pmPretty weird, huh?
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Speaking of weird jeff, what’s it like having babies with your sister?
April 7th, 2007 at 1:26 pmThe Reagan administration’s funding of the Mujahadeen is directly responsible for the rise of the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and other jihadists in Afghanistan. Reagan renewed diplomatic relations with Saddam Hussein in the early 1980s. Let’s place the blame for 9/11 where it belongs.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:29 pmYes that’s actually what Americans do. They are left of center but they like to secretly elect father figures. Pretty weird, huh?
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Bush was never a ‘father figure’… He was elected because the majority of people who voted for him saw him as somoene they’d like to have a beer with… You know – the funny, drunken cousin?
Clearly that experiement in electing ‘average’ people to such powerful positions of authority has been demonstrated to be irrational…
April 7th, 2007 at 1:31 pmDoes this mean you blame all Christians for the behavior of the Nazis?
Comment by Lily — April 7, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
Bye bye Jeff :)
I just read a book that had a bit of information on how the Catholic Church actually helped Hitler with funds, and gave him access to birth records that showed who was Jewish (makes sense that that was how he knew)… Appalling.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:34 pmApril 7th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
sorry, couldn’t resist
:-D
April 7th, 2007 at 1:35 pmIt was Al Qaeda!
It was the Taliban!
Invade Afghanistan!
It was Saddam!
Invade Iraq!
No, wait!
It’s Iran!
April 7th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
O.K. Worfeus, you enter your left nut and I’ll enter my right boob, it’s the biggest of my pair..BTW a 40 double D, one of us can be pres. and the other vice pres..Deal.?…Blessings
April 7th, 2007 at 1:48 pmI give up TP…
…you win…
April 7th, 2007 at 1:54 pmThe “enemy†is everyone who does not support this regime. That would be more than 99% of the world that the theocons are at war with. When you think about it, they are the real enemy.
April 7th, 2007 at 1:54 pmComment by Sharon — April 7, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
That would be a reverse of the current situation….
April 7th, 2007 at 1:57 pmGiuliani: If you think about it, Iran was responsible for September 11.
Ummm, sure Rudy….
Is that why most of the 9/11 highjackers were Saudi?
They must have paid those Saudi suni arabs alot to takeout the towers for the Iranian Shiites.
Yeah, right………
April 7th, 2007 at 1:58 pmI give up TP…
…you win…
Comment by big papa
Im having the same problem.
April 7th, 2007 at 2:01 pmThere They go again
April 7th, 2007 at 2:13 pmGuiliani enrages me. Down with these thugs. And I don’t even have “think about it.”
The American people must clean out this festering pile of maggots.
April 7th, 2007 at 2:18 pmWhat the F&*K?
Every day seems to bring a new low from these guys. It’s like they’re frantically racing to see who can dig the deepest hole possible under themselves. And they’re SUPPOSED to be the best and the brightest. Good Lord, we’re in so much trouble.
April 7th, 2007 at 2:24 pmLooks like all that f—-ing around has left Guilliani stupid, as well as, bald.
Hey Rudy, 15 of the 18 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian. Remember?? The country whose Ambassador was smoking a cigar with Dubya on the White House balcony two days later???
What an idiot!
April 7th, 2007 at 2:26 pmI just read a book that had a bit of information on how the Catholic Church actually helped Hitler with funds, and gave him access to birth records that showed who was Jewish (makes sense that that was how he knew)… Appalling.
Comment by unbelievable — April 7, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Let’s not forget Prescott Bush when talking about those who funded the Nazis.
April 7th, 2007 at 2:32 pmWatching McCain and Guliani trying to promote themselves is like watching Laurel and Hardy putting up a fence.
April 7th, 2007 at 2:33 pmWatching McCain and Guliani trying to promote themselves is like watching Laurel and Hardy putting up a fence.
Comment by dlet
except Laurel and Hardy were actually funny…..
April 7th, 2007 at 2:39 pm…and THEN…
…there was Fred Thompson…
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
…Ronald Raygun’s ghost revived….
…ONLY in aC DUHmerikkka…
April 7th, 2007 at 2:52 pmThe 9/11 Whore rides again. As a New Yorker, I’m more than a little tired of him. He screwed the NYPD and the NYFD in contract negotiations, gave the NYFD bad radio’s and he thinks that was a “Good” job?
Right…
April 7th, 2007 at 2:58 pm#56
April 7th, 2007 at 3:16 pmS.D.
Plus it was his decision to place the Emergency Command and Control Office in the World Trade Center. This after it was already targeted in ‘93. Smart as a box of rocks.
Nice job of taking things out of context and using a biased source. One thing about Rudy, he doesn’t speak in soundbites.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:28 pmThis after it was already targeted in ‘93. Smart as a box of rocks.
Comment by dlet — April 7, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Especially if you want to destroy all the evidence. WTC7 did the impossible… random fires triggering a symmetric collapse into its own footprint.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:28 pm…want to vote for this murderous, racist, Mafia thug…Comment by big papa — April 7, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Nice job of insulting the Italian-Americans you racist ni**er.
Hate, the true Progressive value!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:37 pmIf you think about it the neocons started the seeds for 9/11 in PNAC and carried out their wet dream on that crystal clear Sunday September morning 6 years ago.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pmWhat a disgusting thing when you really think about it :
to use that day (and the horrific atermath : 2 illegal wars etc) just to promote yourself to be president.
Guiliani is truly a rotten to the core person.
Are people so dumb that they cannot see through this evil.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pmI see that Jeff has completely forgot about the Iran Contra affair.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmDon’t hate me because I’m right. Bush was elected to bash Muslim skulls and you know it. I hate Bush. I think he needs to be arrested.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmBut I supported him when I was afraid after 911. So did you. You may not have VOTED for him, but when Americans get scared they choose bullies.
It involved several members of the Reagan Administration who in 1986 helped to illegally sell arms to Iran, an avowed enemy, and used the proceeds to fund, also illegally, the Contras, a right-wing guerrilla organization in Nicaragua.
Don’t hate me because I’m right. -Jeff
I don’t know how your right when your wrong. I don’t hate anyone, but it’s never a good idea to arm your enemy.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmYou’re not right.
I didn’t support Bush before, during or after 9/11.
I love my country but FEAR my government.
Do you really think it was/is beyond the capability and desire of A Shadow Government of the U.S. not to plan and carry out atrocities such as this or worse?
April 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmBut I supported him when I was afraid after 911.
Comment by jeff
You are a fool then.
I knew about PNAC before Bush was elected and the “New Pearl Harbor” of 9/11, attacking Iraq and all the crap Bushco has done came as no supprise to me.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmWhat the hell is with these Republicans? They make the most idiotic statements, in public none the less. So Guiliani is claiming to be “Bush II” by making false statements. Hey, Guili, it was Saudi’s that flew the planes into the World Trade Center, not Iranians. Just keep on making stupid statements and the Republic Party will hand the presidency over to the Democratic Party in 2008. Yeah, it’s sounding better every day.
Just 653 days left in the lame duck presidency of boy Bush.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:53 pmJeff – how noble of you to admit that you are afraid. The only thing that I fear is boy Bush’s ability to blow up this planet.
I didn’t support boy Bush before, during or after 9/11. And unlike you who believed the Bush/Cheney motto “Be afraid, be very afraid”, I didn’t walk around in fear after 9/11, either.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pm“You know it really is us vs. them whether you like it or not. I don’t like it, but it is reality. Christian west vs. Muslim east. That’s reality.”
Hey Jeff, if the world falls to anarchy and I have both you (a Christian nut), and a Muslim nut, both in my sites, I’ll think I’ll pick you off first.
How dare you assume that your christo-blabber speaks for “us”?
We are not in a war of Christians vs Muslims, East vs West, Sunnis vs Shiites, or Republicans vs Democrats. None of those labels adequately frames the issue.
We are in a war of rational vs irrational, reason vs superstition. Islamic suicide bombers fall on the irrational and superstitious side. So do you.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“Don’t hate me because I’m right. Bush was elected to bash Muslim skulls and you know it. I hate Bush. I think he needs to be arrested. But I supported him when I was afraid after 911. So did you. You may not have VOTED for him, but when Americans get scared they choose bullies.”
You are clearly insane. Please stop pretending you speak for anyone but yourself and other insane people.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:34 pmThe people who planted the explosives that caused the explosion in this picture are responsible for thousands of deaths on 9-11!
h t t p : / / 9 1 1 r e s e a r c h . w t c 7 . n e t / w t c / e v i d e n c e / p h o t o s / w t c 2 e x p 2 . h t m l
(Please remove spaces and paste into a browser address box)
Everybody who knowns that gravity makes weakened column buildings fall down like weakened trunk trees, which is due to moment (multipled force at a distance by lever action) failure, understands that this is a picture of an explosion, because of the debris is moving upward and outward against gravity, instead of moving downward with gravity.
The only reason for one not to see this OBVIOUS explosion, and it is to protect a fragile psyche from the ramifications of acknowledging was really behind 9-11!
April 7th, 2007 at 5:50 pmWhen I think about it Rudy, all signs point to Inside job!
April 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmIf you think about it the neocons started the seeds for 9/11 in PNAC and carried out their wet dream on that crystal clear Sunday September morning 6 years ago.
oops! I meant Tuesday morning…
April 7th, 2007 at 5:56 pm“Iran was responsible for September 11.”
…oh Jesus…
April 7th, 2007 at 5:58 pmI’m with Coffins on this one…I was never before 9/11 nor am I now afraid of anything..I knew before this miserable bunch took control of the administration what could happen….Sadly they have out done my prediction’s for lieing, graft, greed, war monging and totaly distroying our constitution and credability….They are all a murderious lot and only good for filling a jail cell some where forever..
For a troll to say they were scared after 9/11 only show’s how brain washed they are…I wasen’t scared I was in grief for our losses and now it’s worse adding our military, Katrina victom’s and nearly 700,00 Iraq men, women and children….The sadness and genocide bush and crew has put on our world is staggering, hell I even include the 1000 or more Lebanon losses that were allowed by this administration to continue…Miserible, evil killers and enabelers all….Blessings, we and the entire world need them..Peace demand it…Impeach, jail and seize all their asset’s..
April 7th, 2007 at 6:33 pmCAN YOU PLEASE STOP WITH THE 911 CONSPIRACY THEORIES???
April 7th, 2007 at 6:43 pmCAN YOU PLEASE STOP WITH THE 911 CONSPIRACY THEORIES??
This does not help the progressive movement, but embarrasses it. 911 was conducted by Islamic religious fanatics. Yes, Bush is a criminal, but his crime is one of negligence and willful stupidity, not planting explosives in WTC to kill 3000 Americans.
All of these stupid theories have been debunked, but you have to read beyond the subjective source material, which SOUNDS good, but is WRONG.
If you are going to call yourself “critical thinker”, please engage in that activity. Subscribe to Skeptic magazine, Skeptical Inquirer, and Free Inquiry. That would be a good start.
April 7th, 2007 at 6:48 pmHere:
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html
Like things aren’t bad enough with islamofascists on one side and christofascists on the other, that we need to invent new conspiracies on top of the real ones?
April 7th, 2007 at 6:55 pmNice job of insulting the Italian-Americans you racist ni**er.
Comment by Hate #59
…you seem to have done a Yeoman’s job of THAT…
…all by your stupid inbred a*s lonesome “Braveheart”…
…by implying that ALL Italian-Americans are Mafiosi…
…I didn’t…
…but I’d bet everything I own that if your punk a*s was face to face w/me…
…you wouldn’t have the balls to call me what you typed in your post…
…but I’d be man enough to call you the l’il bi*ch I bet you are…
…and don’tblame me cause your mothers, sisters, wives and girlfriends…
…prefer to do the SWIRL…
April 7th, 2007 at 7:09 pmWell I didn’t know about PNAC b4 911. gorn I think you doth protest too much.
April 7th, 2007 at 7:18 pmMuslims could have had Palestine back by now if they practiced peaceful resistance. Even Saudi King Abdullah knows this. Instead they chose to blow up atheletes and market places. Now they jihad against innocent people with one hand and beg for money from the SAME people with the other hand. Despicable. Palestine the debtor nation.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, Rudy Giuliani WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR POLITICIZING THE TRAGEDY OF 9/11 FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT AND TAKING ALL THE CREDIT FOR HIS SO-CALLED “LEADERSHIP” AFTER THE CRISIS ALONG WITH Monkey Boy CHIMPya, BOTH OF THESE SCUM-SHITS UNDESERVING OF PRAISE FOR THEIR MEAGER EFFORTS AFTER 9/11—WHY THE MEMORIAL OF 9/11 IS NOT EVEN ERECTED YET, AND NOT ALL OF THE SURVIVORS HAVE RECEIVED THEIR DECEASED HEROES’ SURVIVING FAMILY BENEFITS FROM THAT SO-CALLED POOL OF MONIES TO AID THE FAMILIES—WHAT BASE HYPOCRISY AND AN ATTEMPT TO SHIFT THE BLAME, TO SMEAR EVEN A VILLIANOUS Iran TO KEEP US FROM SCRUTINIZING Giuliani’s SHORTCOMINGS AND FAILURES!!!!! HYPOCRITE! CANARD! LOSER! ADULTERER! CROSS-DRESSER! PERVERT! LYING CREEP! HAH!!!!!
April 7th, 2007 at 7:52 pm“Well I didn’t know about PNAC b4 911. “
And this proves what? That you aren’t very well read. These guys were around long before 911 and preaching the need for US imperialist aggression in the Middle East.
“gorn I think you doth protest too much.”
Come again??
“Muslims could have had Palestine back by now if they practiced peaceful resistance. Even Saudi King Abdullah knows this. Instead they chose to blow up atheletes and market places. Now they jihad against innocent people with one hand and beg for money from the SAME people with the other hand. Despicable. Palestine the debtor nation.”
All of which has truth (at least partial), but so what? That Palestinian leadership has been pretty stupid in no way supports your contention that “we” are in a war of “Christian west vs Muslim east”.
Christians and Muslims, if they really have faith in their religions, should just STFU and conduct their battle in the afterlife. Leave us rational people alone, will you? At the very least, don’t pretend that you speak for America, ok?
April 7th, 2007 at 8:20 pmNow they jihad against innocent people with one hand and beg for money from the SAME people with the other hand. Despicable. Palestine the debtor nation.
Comment by jeff #80
jeff,
The Jewish Irgun in Israel (doubtless bank rolled by American Jews)…
…got rid of the British through terrorist acts…
…bombing and murdering their way to “independence” from the British mandate in Palestine…
…this was essentially their first step in taking over Palestine…
…there is a line in MacBeth where he is being tormented by his thoughts of murdering the good King Duncan…
…and MacBeth basically says that his violence will “teach” others to do the same…
…non-violent protest came AFTER the Irgun had already taught the Palestinians…
…that “might makes right”…
…and as far as your Bush’it about Palestinians asking for handouts…
…the Israelis have frozen Palestinian funds due them and control their ability to create commerce…
…with their (Israeli’s draconian occupation)…
…you right wing aCs really ARE uninformed and just plain stupid!
April 7th, 2007 at 8:58 pmYou are not being realistic by suggesting religious people conduct their affairs “in the afterlife”. What a silly thing to say. Faith is a struggle, hence the word.
April 7th, 2007 at 9:03 pmAmerica would never treat a Christian nation the way they treat Islamic nations. Perhaps covertly, as in south America or whatever, but never as a matter of policy. Islamist countries are extreme, and they are trying to get nukes. So it’s 50/50 maybe. 1/2 religion, 1/2 fear of nukes in the hands of fanatics. Either way, Americans will, fortunately, side with the protector leader. Why do you think the DLC is so strong?
And let me say, make no mistake that America is unhappy with the Iraq mess not because they feel safe. It’s the opposite. If a situation similar to 911 happened again tomorrow and BushCo waned to invade Iran? Then we’re going to Iran.
Yeah I know Israelis and Begin were terrorists. That has nothing to do with what were talking about.
April 7th, 2007 at 9:08 pmSeems to be Israel would like to pay Palestine. It’s that whole “soft bigotry of low expectations” thing don’tcha know.
big papa can you write in a more normal style please?
big papa can you write in a more normal style please?
Comment by jeff #85
…only if you’ll…
…THINK in one…
April 7th, 2007 at 9:13 pm“What if the tactical mistake we made in Iraq was that we didn’t kill enough Sunnis in the early going to intimidate them” -Podhoretz
That is a bigoted racist remark. By a neocon. He could have said Baath party. He did not. This is ethnocentrism and racism. It comes naturally.
April 7th, 2007 at 9:17 pmre#80 gorn by any other name
I notice you nor any link can explain why that picture is not an explosion?
“Critical thinking” does not not mean calling people names, and it does not mean ignoring the evidence that does not fit into your hypothesis!
If this explanation of the picture is so “ridiculous” why cannot you or any “expert” make a model building where by weaking one or more of its vertical columns, you can make the model building disintegrate and throw debris up in the air against gravity before the debris collides with and bounces off the ground?
Can you or any other expert turn concrete into 50 micron powder like in the following picture in less than 15 seconds without explosives?
h t t p : / / 9 1 1 r e s e a r c h . w t c 7 . n e t / w t c / e v i d e n c e / p h o t o s / s t r e e t s 1 . h t m l
Even if you drop a concrete block from an airplane it will not turn into 50 micron powder than can hold a footprint!
Can you explain how a hole in the Pentagon less than the size of a 757 can allow a 757 to go thru without breaking off its wings, engines, and tail on the outside?
h t t p : / / 9 1 1 r e s e a r c h . w t c 7 . n e t / p e n t a g o n / e v i d e n c e / p h o t o s / p u n c h o u t . h t m l
Did you not learn spacial relationships in kintergarten?
Or do you believe that you can squeeze a log thru a keyhole, without sheering any of the log outside the keyhole?
If these 9-11 ideas are so “ridiculous”, how come NOBODY can duplicate the amazing impossible science defying feats, and prove that they are “ridiculous”?
No, what is “ridiculous” is trying to pass off an OBVIOUS explosive demolition of a building as having fell down from a weakened structure, when photographic evidence CLEARLY shows debris moving UP against gravity and not DOWN with gravity!
No, what is “ridiculous” is trying to pass off an OBVIOUS missle attack as a 757 hitting a building on the ground floor,
April 7th, 2007 at 9:27 pmwhen photographic evidence CLEARLY shows that a 757 is too big to have caused they entry hole without leaving the wings, engines, and tail outside the hole!
Jeff: You are a loon.
Critical Thinker: You are not a critical thinker. You are so caught up in your conspiracy wish that nothing I can say will deter you. Sad.
I’d invite anybody to first read the link I gave, then read the link you gave, and draw their own conclusions.
We need to focus on getting loons like Jeff removed from our government, and your going on and on about nutty conspiracy theories only hurts that cause.
April 7th, 2007 at 9:56 pmAnd let me say, make no mistake that America is unhappy with the Iraq mess not because they feel safe. It’s the opposite. If a situation similar to 911 happened again tomorrow and BushCo waned to invade Iran? Then we’re going to Iran.
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Uh, Jeff, if another 9/11 occured (and I hope it doesn’t), wouldn’t we have to find out first who did it? Let’s say it was a right wing wacko American like the ones who bombed the building in Oklahoma over a decade ago. Are you going to tell me that if it was, say one of our own who committed a terrorist act and that to get revenge, we’d have to create a war in Iran?
Dude, lay down the pipe, don’t go jumping the gun and start thinking hard. I know that for someone like yourself thinking intelligently is hard, considering what you have posted so far, but either try to make sense or start becoming one of John McCain’s minions.
April 7th, 2007 at 10:47 pmJeff is absolutely right. If we had a terrorist attack the sheep would be all for attacking Iran because you know Bushco would push that angle (despite the fact that we are supporting anti-Iranian terrorists). The average American is an idiot.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:01 pmJeff didn’t say that is what he wanted. He said that is what would happen.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:02 pmJeff –
“You are not being realistic by suggesting religious people conduct their affairs “in the afterlifeâ€. What a silly thing to say. Faith is a struggle, hence the word.”
This is so dang funny. When we are talking about fanatical religious beliefs, “realistic” has very little to do with it.
“Faith is a struggle”. What?? Faith is belief in a particular religious dogma regardless of, or in spite of, any contrary evidence. Faith is not a struggle. Rather, struggle is a result of conflicting faiths.
What I was recommending was that you conduct that struggle in the afterlife. See, both faiths believe in the same god and both believe in an afterlife, so you can meet in god’s playground. This, of course, is meant to be an irony and not taken seriously. After all, religious fanatics by definition have very weak faith (another irony), because if their faith was strong, they wouldn’t worry about the faith of others.
“America would never treat a Christian nation the way they treat Islamic nations. Perhaps covertly, as in south America or whatever, but never as a matter of policy. Islamist countries are extreme, and they are trying to get nukes. So it’s 50/50 maybe. 1/2 religion, 1/2 fear of nukes in the hands of fanatics. Either way, Americans will, fortunately, side with the protector leader.”
Wow, you are one scary dude.
“And let me say, make no mistake that America is unhappy with the Iraq mess not because they feel safe. It’s the opposite.”
I thought we were unhappy with Iraq because (a) it’s a frigging mess; (2) it is totally unnecessary; (3) it has solved no problems while creating new ones; (4) it is heaping debt onto the backs of our children; (5) it is based on lies. Shall I continue?
“If a situation similar to 911 happened again tomorrow and BushCo waned to invade Iran? Then we’re going to Iran.”
Again, you are a scary dude. If another 911 happened tomorrow, it would present just another layer of proof that the strategery of BushCo has been a colossal failure. Why on earth would any rational person support a repeat of it?
I think it’s sad that you live in fear. Rage over 911 is justified. A pursuit of the guilty is justified. An insistence on policy that addresses core contributing factors is justified. Your incoherent fear, however, is not justified, nor is using such fear as an excuse for the lunacy of a failed administration.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:09 pm#93 Am I missing something? I don’t see why everybody is attacking Jeff. Unless I missed a post.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:14 pmHey JPark, I think you need to read more of what Jeff has been saying for proper context. Your interpretation is too kind.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:16 pm#93 Ok, never mind. I DID miss a post. Or a portion of it. My bad. Jeff is scared of other countries than his own acquiring nukes. I sure as hell would be looking for nukes if I had a big, aggressive, conscienceless country breathing down my neck.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:17 pm#95 You are right. I was way off.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:18 pm“Yes that’s actually what Americans do. They are left of center but they like to secretly elect father figures.”
According to jeff, most Americans have fathers who are drunken cokehead Yankees with a Texas drawl, no management skills, medieval religious beliefs, semi-literate command of the English language, and comprehension of foreign policy on a par with a syphilitic cowboy.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:22 pm#98 I am thinking Jeff secretly wants to have sex with his father.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:31 pmJeff secretly wants to have sex with his father.
Comment by JPark #99
…again?
April 7th, 2007 at 11:41 pm#100 I know, it was redundant.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:42 pmWhat comment # of Jeff’s are you responding to?
April 7th, 2007 at 11:48 pm#102 I have no clue. I think I have been a fool. Flip-flopping and all that. I went back and read all of Jeff’s posts. I didn’t find the offending remarks and all of his posts seemed reasonable.
I apologize until further notice, Jeff.
Gorn, where is the post that says…
“America would never treat a Christian nation the way they treat Islamic nations. Perhaps covertly, as in south America or whatever, but never as a matter of policy. Islamist countries are extreme, and they are trying to get nukes. So it’s 50/50 maybe. 1/2 religion, 1/2 fear of nukes in the hands of fanatics. Either way, Americans will, fortunately, side with the protector leader
It is really out of character from the rest of his posts.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:52 pmI know, it was redundant.
Comment by JPark #101
…not your post…
…rather…
…jeff’s SICKO sexual proclivities…
April 7th, 2007 at 11:53 pmjeff was being pretty idiotic early in the thread, but nothing out of the ordinary.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:58 pm“Gorn, where is the post that says…”
You know, Jpark, it’s fruitless to try to identify posts by number, because TP is such a friggin mess. Posts appear and disappear and then reappear seemingly at random. I’ve been here for, what, a year? And the system still has the same problems.
But, at least at the moment, that post of jeff’s is #87.
But what first set me off was his post claiming that it’s “us against them”, where “us” is defined as “the Christian west”. I’d prefer he not speak for “us” and suggest U.S. foreign policy should have any religious connection of any kind.
April 8th, 2007 at 12:03 am#106 I give up on this post. If Jeff said something offensive it isn’t there anymore. I don’t know him otherwise. Is he typically a dolt?
April 8th, 2007 at 12:10 amYeah, I remember there being two jeffs…
…one with a capital “J”…
…who also used his last name…
…and jeff (small “j”)…
…the ignorant, racist, inbred Bushite…
…who wants to go to war with ALL Muslims…
…you’re not losing it JPark…
…jeff is a Bushite a*swiper…
April 8th, 2007 at 12:18 am“You know it really is us vs. them whether you like it or not. I don’t like it, but it is reality. Christian west vs. Muslim east. That’s reality.”
Comment by jeff — April 7, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Absolutely, fucking “A” man!!!! — Fight them, fight them!! Fight them towel heads and camel jockeys! Pleazzse fight them. please stay in Iraq, please use torture, pleazzze stay in Iraq.
Fight the world’s 1 billion muslims, pleazzzzzeeee!!!
I promise that China will not pick up the pieces after you tear each other to shreds! Promise!!!
Pleeeeze stay in Iraq and be deadenders- pleazze!
April 8th, 2007 at 9:05 amAmericans aren’t rational is all I’m saying. And Republicans love their father figures. I got banned from Redstate for saying that about Reagan.
April 8th, 2007 at 9:53 amThere are some people in here with serious anger issues and I understand that. I’m not afaid of nukes or want to have sex with my father. Maybe I should have used “bad cop” or “militaristic” figure in place of “father figure”. My bad. But I know where your minds go now.
You angry folks sound like terrorist sypathizers. I know you’re not, but you’re terrible at articulating a reasonable critique of American foreign policy. Whenever you bash American policy without contexting it with appropriate language towards terror you only support Neocons. It’s time to hold all Muslims responsible for Jihad. It’s past time. And probably what the jihadists need or want. Like a bully looking for a buddy to hold him back from a fight he secretly does not want to have.
60 years Palestinians wage Jihad. Someone needs to tell them it ain’t working. I know the Neocons and Israelis ain’t gonna do it.
Who’s next? North Korea?
April 8th, 2007 at 8:59 pm“Americans aren’t rational is all I’m saying.”
You have this bad habit of speaking for and about all Americans, and you think WE’RE not rational?
April 8th, 2007 at 11:11 pmThe PNAC SAID that in order to achieve their goals (American hedgemony in the Middle East) they need a catastrophic, catalysing event like a new Pearl Harbor. Strange how that happened 9 months into the presidency!
For those of you calling some of us “conspiracy nuts” please open your minds and stop being so afraid to look at all the facts that don’t add up to 19 Arabs. (And if it was, they got incredibly lucky time and time again!). As much as you all hate Bush/Cheney, it seems you’re still resistant to letting yourself understand that our government can do this to us.
Giuliani was a part of the plan because HE had the steel from WTC sent out on cargo ships immediately so that it couldn’t be investigated. Why wasn’t the WTC treated as a crime scene?
Just for giggles, even if you buy the “official story”, it was just good luck that Giuliani was headed for the bunker in WTC7 because it looked as if he was there to help people. He wasn’t. If the bunker were in Queens, Giuliani would have been nowhere to be found.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:15 am8
You are right Jeff, in your own sad world of self-fulfilling prophecies, exactly mirroring the whole End Times rhetoric that will stoke people into actions that will end up destroying us.
There, I just got sucked in!
Well, I guess if this shite is all inevitable, let’s just start firing our nukes straight up into the air – that way we can take the wind out of the Muslim east’s sails!!! PLUS, we could usher in Armageddon and get that over with too!
Get out of the way of progress. PLEASE.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:21 amJeff
For 60 years Israel has engaged in the same sort of activites that got South Africa in trouble for apartheid. No?
Your articulation of holding ALL Muslims responsible for Jihad is laughable. I guess we better get Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Cat Stevens, and Muhammed Ali down to Gauntanamo PRONTO! Oh, and that devious Ketih Ellison!
You’re a buffoon. The people that are in charge of foreign policy in every nation across the globe are the one’s responsible for the way the world is now. Every one of them has made bad, sometimes terrible decisions, in the past, but for you, it is simply easier to condemn ALL Muslims? Wow – critical thinking I think not.
Nice try though really. Come back with something CONCRETE. REASONABLE. etc. things that aren’t in your skill set, eh Blanket (Statement) Boy?
OUCH, gotta beat back my “anger issues” that surface whenever faced with a smug idiot…SORRY!
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