Report: Terrorists Following U.S. Home After Iraq Withdrawal Is ‘Remote At Best’
Report: Terrorists Following U.S. Home After Iraq Withdrawal Is ‘Remote At Best’
When it comes to Iraq, a common refrain from President Bush and other stay-the-coursers is that “if we were to leave before the job is done, the enemy would follow us here.” For example, on March 6, Bush said:
The extremists are fighting to take control of Iraq so they can establish it as a base from which to overthrow moderate governments in the region, and plan new attacks on the American people. If we fail in Iraq, the enemy will follow us home.
A new report from McClatchy debunks Bush’s claim. Here’s what the survey of military and diplomatic analysts found:
U.S. military, intelligence and diplomatic experts in Bush’s own government say the violence in Iraq is primarily a struggle for power between Shiite and Sunni Muslim Iraqis seeking to dominate their society, not a crusade by radical Sunni jihadists bent on carrying the battle to the United States.
Foreign-born jihadists are present in Iraq, but they’re believed to number only between 4 percent and 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgent fighters – 1,200 to 3,000 terrorists – according to the Defense Intelligence Agency and a recent study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a center-right research center.
“Attacks by terrorist groups account for only a fraction of insurgent violence,” said a February DIA report.
While acknowledging that terrorists could commit a catastrophic act on U.S. soil at any time – whether U.S. forces are in Iraq or not – the likelihood that enemy combatants from Iraq might follow departing U.S. forces back to the United States is remote at best, experts say.
One U.S. intelligence official quoted in the article points out that “the war in Iraq isn’t preventing terrorist attacks on America. If anything, that – along with the way we’ve been treating terrorist suspects – may be inspiring more Muslims to think of us as the enemy.”
So, the danger isn’t that leaving Iraq will bring more terrorism to the U.S., but that staying there will.
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The thinking embodied by the expression “fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here” is simplistic to the point of being retarded.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:09 pmBulls@it. The President has said the terrorists will follow him home. He is basing that on fact. You gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
You guys are laughable.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIgnore the stupid troll.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:13 pmhttp://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003568551
McCain Regrets Remarks to Press about walking freely around Baghdad.
“I’m happy, frankly, with the way I operate,” McCain explained, “otherwise it would be a lot less fun.”
April 7th, 2007 at 3:13 pmThe sad heart of the matter is that it’s more or less inevitable that another terrorist attack will occur in American. Might not be al Queda. Hell, might not even be one a them Ay-rabs. But our country is so large, with so many disparate points of view, that there will eventually be more homeland terror, be it on a large or small scale. And when it happens, the GOP will be the first to jump on their chairs and say “ya see? YA SEE? This is because we didn’t finish the job ‘over there!’ Damn Clinton!” Just like you can count on the GOP to say “Here, where’s the global warming?” whenever the temperature drops below 50, so too will they assume any individual or group with an ax to grind and a bomb to throw is there because of whatever happened or didn’t happen in Iraq.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:15 pmSad when you can hinestly say that life in Iraq was better under Saddam, a vile, militant dictator who tortured his own people.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:17 pmBulls@it. The President has said the terrorists will follow him home. He is basing that on fact. You gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
You guys are laughable.
Comment by firehead — April 7, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
WHEN DOES YOUR UNIT LEAVE FOR IRAQ?
April 7th, 2007 at 3:18 pmI want a reporter to ask anyone who states this falsehood to explain how our troop presence in Iraq is stopping some random terrorist (or cell) from carrying out an attack in the US. Even if they came from Iraq, the Iraqi borders aren’t secure and neither are US borders. The occupation of Iraq has nothing to do with it and couldn’t stop it if it wanted to. The occupation of Iraq is, though, allowing the oil to flow unmetered.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:18 pmLibs just want the terrorists to come here because they hate amarica.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:19 pmOne thing’s for sure: if a terrorist event does happen, Bush’s calculated indifference to infrastructure will make it worse, by orders of magnitude.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:20 pmThe amazing and discouraging observation is the great number of people who buy this bull hook, line and sinker. It is dispiriting to say the least. They become irrational and violent if you suggest to them that the situation in world has become that much worse for the bungled US effort. The constant refrain is: “Bush is right, we have not been attacked since 9/11.” Why would they attack us here? We have done such a great job of dismantling our military, bankrupting our nation and turning world opinion against us.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:21 pmHey TP could you get us a better bunch of troll’s.? This one’s got burnt brain ( firehead)..Not even worthy of our worst day of posting…Thank’s in advance for your help…Blessings
April 7th, 2007 at 3:21 pmIgnore the stupid troll.
Comment by Juan C
That troll seems to get more stupid as time goes by. Geez….
April 7th, 2007 at 3:21 pmWhat? –
Terrorists don’t have GPS?
They don’t own maps?
They don’t know where we are? – They’d have to follow us to find where we are?
It is such an idiotic statement.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:22 pmHi Zooey and Juan.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:23 pmIf we get struck by terrorists again, it will be those already here or nearby.
It’s apparent GWB has no faith in his security measures implemented since 9/11.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:23 pm# 9 – If someone hated America, the most effective thing for them to do would be to sink the country into an intractable war that drains the treasury, puts us in debt forever, and breaks the military, all while ushering in a fascist police state.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:24 pmYes. Every single time he lies.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:25 pmThe quote at the end of this diary speaks to why the “War on Terror” will is self-perpetuating as long as we “stay the course”.
We are creating our enemies.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:26 pmIt is such an idiotic statement.
Comment by trueblue
When GWB pretends to be the terrorist when he plays “Amurkans v. Terrists” in the WH, he always has to follow the good American home — so that must be the way of things. :D
April 7th, 2007 at 3:26 pmHi, true & Juan!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pmActually, on second thought, the President has protected the US from another direct attack by Al Quaeda. Face it, another attack on our soil would cause the final collapse of that small support that Shrub’s war has in the US. Bin Laden knows that he must give Shrub the talking point that Al Quaeda is so tied down in Iraq that they could not spare twenty or thirty people to plan something for the US. Bin Laden knows that Shrub does far more damage to the US at this point than any operation that he could put together.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pmNow we have dumb and dummer….LOL..Let’s put the little black hearted nazis in their place, back under the bridge tiny stinking troll’s….
April 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThis is hallmark “fear exploitation” by Bush….”fighting them over there so…..” How do you think that makes the innocent Iraqis caught in the crossfire of this Civil War and US “surge”. How inhumane and self-centered can one get? Does he really believe that this is anything but pathological thought process? Does he really believe that he can pull up the “fear card” again on the same people who watched him sit on his ass and read My Pet Goat while thousands died in the WTC?? This man has zero credibility and absolutely NO ONE is listening to any more lies coming from him or his henchmen.
Of course, the probability of this thought when connected to the Iraq War is inane at best; totally simplistic and idiotic at worst!
With our intentionally open and insecure borders, the probability of those borders being responsible for insurgents “fighting us over here” becomes much more credible a threat and an outstanding probability based on the sheer numbers of people illegally entering this country. For this fact alone, Bush should be impeached!
Then he has the nerve to attempt to connect the illegal Iraq War with an insurgency within this country?? More lies just like the inaccurate dots they attempted to connect between Saddam and 911.
This gang of thugs is totally washed up!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pmFire: “The President has said the terrorists will follow him home.” – - I have no problem if they follow him to his home.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThanks to Bush’s indifference to global warming, soon the terrorists will be able to cross over, via Russia. Fairbanks will then become the new ground zero in the war on terrorism…
April 7th, 2007 at 3:30 pmPatrick1: When did you serve? You use the pathological art of “projection” so well that one must assume that you neither served your country and that you, indeed, are so consumed with hate and evil that you project this hatred on to anyone who opines opposite to you. Sicko personified.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:30 pmHe is basing that on fact.
What facts? Put them up and let us see for ourselves…
You gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
Yep. He’s proven us to be correct (WMDs, Saddam has a connection to 9/11, Rumsfeld was staying ’til the end of his presidency, etc.)
You guys are laughable.
Comment by firehead — April 7, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Only if you’re a hyena… And all evidences demonstrates that you are.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:31 pmYou gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
Yes. Every single time he lies.
Comment by AkaDad — April 7, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Yes, every time he opens his mouth.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:31 pmTroll comments of late seem to be lacking in conviction.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:31 pmI get it, Zooey.
GWB’s version of “Cowboys and Indians”
(problem is, us Amurkans were the terrorists then…)
April 7th, 2007 at 3:31 pmLibs just want the terrorists to come here because they hate amarica.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 7, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Where’s Amarica?
April 7th, 2007 at 3:34 pmHi Zooey and Juan.
Comment by trueblue
Hello, Zoo and True. Hope you are ok, today.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:35 pmIt is such an idiotic statement.
Comment by trueblue
Oh, but it works so well in cowards.
I love the way he throws around hackneyed phrases like “until the job is done” which is a totally vacuous statement with subtance and used to connote gross generality when nothing specific CAN be named.
Job? What job? Done? What is “done”? He’s never had a plan because there never was a real enemy (even Cheney admits to that) – without an enemy, there can be no war – just an american occupation of a sovereign country. So this “occupation” which has never had a plan now will not be “done” until something occurs. What, pray tell, is that illusive “something”?? I presume that in this game of mental masturbation between the twisted, inept administration and the people, the “job” will not be “done” until every last Iraqi is wiped out.
How can it be otherwise when we can’t even identify the “enemy” over there – except that they are Iraqis!!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:36 pm(problem is, us Amurkans were the terrorists then…)
Comment by trueblue
It’s Chimpy’s game!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:37 pmAmerica how do you like being held hostage by Incompetence and Failure. Different kind of terrorism.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:38 pmCan’t wait to see Chimp’s new poll numbers coming out next week. Let’s take guesses on how low they will go – No doubt his line in the sane drawn against the american people and Congress will mean a decline of probably 5 or so more points….perhaps more. He’s teetering around the 30% mark right now but soon to plummet to the 20’s at which time he will have to be impeached because, clearly, the american people no longer trust this president or support his presidency.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:38 pmOne thing’s for sure: if a terrorist event does happen, Bush’s calculated indifference to infrastructure will make it worse, by orders of magnitude.
Comment by barfly — April 7, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Excellent point!
We’ve been so busy being offensive in this “war on terror” that we have a limited offense. The fact that we have a limited offense and have not been attacked since 9/11 on America soil doesn’t do much for the credibility of the neocon claim that they will follow us home.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:40 pmFirehead is Captain Kirk who is also Jake-off – what a sick, twisted manage-a-trois and also fodder for a new sequel, Psycho 3…..or maybe The Many Faces of Eve Redux…take your pick. It’s apparant from the obvious lack of intellect every time….and, of course, when one is on the thread, the two others are nowhere to be found…..hahaha! Outed again, drivel-spewing troll.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:42 pmIt’s Chimpy’s game!
Comment by Zooey
Yeah, just like the game he’s been playing with the US for 6+ years – only the 1%’ers win.
The rest of us are screwed.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI am amazed every day….I hear on call in TV and radio show’s people still saying those same old lines….When will they wake up I wonder, granted there are only a hand full compared to the enlightend one’s but the fact there are any still saying the same old “fight them over there instead of over here” is bizarr…What kind of drug’s do these people put in their pablum every morning that make’s them so very stupid all day every day?…
I also wonder how much blood shed of our’s and the Iraq people is enough to satisfy these mindless parasites.?…We must demand impeachment and keep on demanding untill it is done, then these dreadful war monger’s must be jailed forever……Blesings
April 7th, 2007 at 3:42 pm#2 We don’t have to call the leader of the free world a liar! That fact has already been proven. Come back when you have something relevant to say.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:43 pmWhat the bottom of the bell curve fails to grasp is you do not export democracy at the barrel of a gun. Do tell us all how you would embrace China if they deemed us a threat and invaded the USA.
cue crickets
Oh but….but….but…. Sadam was a madman, a killer. BZZZZZZTTTTT hands down the USA leads the world in killing. Call it a secondary benefit of a 1/2 trillion annual miltary complex machine.
Yeah thats what I thought
April 7th, 2007 at 3:43 pm#38 Our military is stretched so thin, it couldn’t even get water to New Orleans for 5 days! Now that’s impressive, isn’t it??
When everyone witnessed this pathetic response of this government, we all realized that, even though we are paying taxes through the nose, it’s “every man for himself” and this government doesn’t give a damn about it’s citizens. This was one of the saddest realizations in my life next to, of course, our administration being populated with crooks & liars, that is.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pmWhy would they attack us here? We have done such a great job of dismantling our military, bankrupting our nation and turning world opinion against us.
Comment by JMOHR — April 7, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
3,194: Number of terrorist attacks worldwide in 2004 , as reported by the U.S. government’s National Counterterrorism Center
11,100: Number of terrorist attacks worldwide in 2005 , as reported by the U.S. government’s National Counterterrorism Center
1: Rank of Iraq among all nations as a training ground for terrorists
April 7th, 2007 at 3:45 pmYeah, just like the game he’s been playing with the US for 6+ years – only the 1%’ers win.
The rest of us are screwed.
Comment by trueblue
Exactly.
Hi Juan, doing well. Taking a little break from studying…
April 7th, 2007 at 3:46 pmJake, Patrick1, and the remaining bottom 29% of the bell curve think all airports go through bahgdad.
Yeah dats da ticket.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:47 pm#
You gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
Yes. Every single time he lies.
Comment by AkaDad — April 7, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Yes, every time he opens his mouth.
Comment by Anderson — April 7, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
#
Troll comments of late seem to be lacking in conviction.
Yes, every time his lips move.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:48 pmSharon – I’ve noticed that you are a spiritually evolved individual from your posts and I so appreciate reading what you have to say. I couldn’t agree more that the shedding of the blood of both the Iraqi civilians and our military qualifies, most definitely, as “war crimes” of this administration. Now we learn the truth that our worst nightmare is true: Doug Feith, PNAC, and the members of Bush’s Cabinet DID cook the books to trick us into this war which was based on bogus facts and manipulated evidence. We all suspected that, of course, but now knowing it means that we must do the next right thing – which is speedy impeachment of these monsters who defrauded us with their lies and spin. Everyone must realize that we may not have 2 more years before this democracy tanks completely so it is imperative that they be impeached now. We can’t afford the damage of 2 more years!
Also, when the entire truth becomes public through Kucinich’s new investigation into the contradictions between the “official story of 911″ and eyewitness testimonies, the people will take to the streets is disgust and dismay.
EVERY DOT IN THIS NIGHTMARE CONNECTS US BACK TO 911 WHICH IS THE STARTING POINT IN THIS CHICANERY, FOLKS.
Sharon – I sent blessings right back to you and hope that your Easter is a joyous and loving one!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pmNamaste!
firehead,
The “leader” of the free world is a liar.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pmFirehead, Captain Kirk & Jake: We’re all calling YOU a liar!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmIranian diplomat claims he was tortured
April 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmP.S. Patrick1 is one and the same as well…..so there you have it…check the threads for hypsarhythmic posting which proves they are the same idjeet!
April 7th, 2007 at 3:51 pmWhy does Bush follow the directives of Osama bin Forgotten. When Failure in Chief stated, in the 04 Presidential debates, “I do not let OBL dictate my foreign policy decisions” yet Osama bin Forgotten stated in 6/03 “We will mire them in the swamp of Iraq and drain their treasury”
Does Bush work for Osama bin Forgotten? Is it still World War III? Are our orders to do more shopping?
GOOD LORD YOU RAPE_PUBLIC_CANS ASSIST AL_QAIDA
April 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pmOur military is stretched so thin, it couldn’t even get water to New Orleans for 5 days! Now that’s impressive, isn’t it??
I’m surprised that that weakness HASN’T been exploited. The fact that it hasn’t shows that the terrorizing fear of radical Muslims or any other boogeymen is absurd. Even 9/11 could have been prevented if Bush had either bothered to read the CIA (FBI?) report and accept it was possible, or had not seen it as his opportunity to invade Iraq.
When everyone witnessed this pathetic response of this government, we all realized that, even though we are paying taxes through the nose, it’s “every man for himself†and this government doesn’t give a damn about it’s citizens. This was one of the saddest realizations in my life next to, of course, our administration being populated with crooks & liars, that is.
Comment by veritas — April 7, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
Wasn’t New Orleans one of the events which permanently put his approval ratings in the lower thirties? No matter what the trolls claim – the man has had a longer low approval rate than he ever had a high one…
April 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmJake, Patrick1, and the remaining bottom 29% of the bell curve think all airports go through bahgdad.
Comment by Heterodoxy
The problem is they all share that one brain cell and one of them is drinking booze.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIranian diplomat claims he was tortured
Comment by Juan C
Oh boy…
April 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmWait a minute,.. there’s a troll out there named Captain Kirk?
Talk about blasphemy…
April 7th, 2007 at 3:56 pmHeterodoxy,
The bin Ladens are family friends of the Bush’s, that’s a fact.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:57 pmComment by Heterodoxy –
When Bush’s oil business was failing, do you know who bailed him out?
The bin Laden’s….
100% True.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:58 pm#58- It’s the bad Captain Kirk from the episode when his personality split into two people.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pmWait a minute,.. there’s a troll out there named Captain Kirk?
Talk about blasphemy…
Comment by trueblue
He’s a 6 on the Michael Stupid Scale & a 10 on the Jake Obnoxious Scale.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmVeritas, back at ya…I enjoy your post’s and read every one…You have a much better grip on spelling and composition that I do. Indeed we do think a lot alike…
Good to see Juan C and true blue here today…Now that the gang is all here I think I will bail and hug some more trees before it start’s to rain again..Or maybe I will just cruse our little parking lot for daylight dummies…Blessings all…Don’t play nicely, that’s what got us in this mess…Get real and get even..Boot the basterds out.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmGodfryDaniel and Zooey,
Thanks for the intell.
(I remember that episode, Godfry!)
:)
April 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmRightwingers are waiting for the return of a Democratic President so they ccan start up with the McVeigh style terrorism again.
There’s little difference between the far right and Al Qaeda. They both hate America.
-GSD
April 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pmActually, they don’t have to “follow us home”. Thanks to Bush’s open door policy between Mexico and the USA, they can come in anytime they want to. In fact, has not Homeland Security already acknowledged that terrorists have crossed the border?
April 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmThanks for the intell.
(I remember that episode, Godfry!)
:)
Comment by trueblue
After that episode, Kirk had to go to rehab for overacting.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pmThere’s little difference between the far right and Al Qaeda. They both hate America.
Comment by GSD — April 7, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Excellent!
April 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pmTigris Lily,
Why no mention of the open border between the US and Canada? The so-called Millenium Bomber was stopped at the Canadian border.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pm“Leader of the Free World”….?HUH?!!
This dunmshit can’t even lead the majority of the people of the u.s.(except for the brainless 30%, of whom we have a few trolls hanging out here just to derail serious discussion). He is CLUELESS. An embarrassment. A NONleader who has been a DISASTER for the U.S. from which I doubt we will ever recover. The rest of the world (free and not so free) have lost all respect for this country. Many dislike us intensely. And some plain HATE us for what has been done in OUR name by this gang of neocon fascist crooks and liars.
“Leader of the Free World”. A joke. He can kiss my ass.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pmAfter that episode, Kirk had to go to rehab for overacting.
Comment by Zooey
Hasn’t he been a permanent resident since then?
:)
April 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pmLet’s get one thing straight… nobody here hates America. No matter what side you’re on, it’s those damn Americans that don’t think like us that are the problem.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pmHasn’t he been a permanent resident since then?
:)
Comment by trueblue
As far as I’m concerned….. Heh.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pmWho did Al Qaeda “follow” on 9/11? I imagine everyone with a computer and Google earth can figure out how to get to America George W.
The real problem is why they attack. I imagine one reason they are pissy lately is the fact that the US now occupies two countries in the Middle East (Iraq/Afghanistan) and is dropping occasional bombs in two others (Pakistan/Somalia) and was cheerleading the bombing of two others (Palestine/Lebanon) by Israel and we have begun amping up the threats to bomb one additional country (Iran).
-GSD
April 7th, 2007 at 4:20 pmangryvietnamvet,
I understand your frustration.
I fear for this country as well.
But I do still hold out hope that another “uniter” President > will come along and save us, and the US.
I hold out hope that these past 8 years will not destroy the 230 years of our great country.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmThe “If we don’t take the fight to them, they’ll bring it here” schtick is merely a variant of the debunked Domino Theory. It’s America that has a declared “interest” in the Middle East. In truth, 9/11 was merely Osama bin Laden’s reversal of the same idea.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmThe President has said the terrorists will follow him home. He is basing that on fact. You gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
You guys are laughable.
Comment by firehead
You think Tim McVeigh followed anyone home? If he’s basing it on FACT then it should be easy for you to prove that Firehead, right?
April 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmYou gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
Comment by liarhead — April 7, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Actually, the entire free world is doing that for us.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmthanks, Sharon! Indeed, I feel the connection between us and I read and appreciate your posts as well. All too often, the resident trolls have their way with the serious, intelligent posters here at TP and and manage to divert the dicussion and hijack our threads with their sheer stupidity. In some ways, this bit of stimuli can be construed as a positive thing in that it begins to get the juices flowing; however, now we must corral this level of angst, disappointment, and anger and catalyze it by projecting it and channelling it properly upon those who deserve it. And, that would be the Bush Cabal. No angry american should waste this precious energy on dialoguing with disgusting hate-filled trolls because it merely allows their anger to grow exponentially which is not beneficial to anyone’s mind/body/soul. The time is NOW to use our emotional energy to boot the Bush Cabal out of office.
Yes, it’s great to see some of the gang of good guys back on the threads….hats off to ya, trueblue and JuanC! As you probably can ascertain from my posts, I am a peace-nik through and through and like Vietnam, never believed that what we were doing back then was moral or just….I guess we failed as a country to learn the lesson of Vietnam so we’re getting to redo it all over again in Iraq! That’s how the universe works, as we all know….if you don’t get it the first time, it comes back and is much worse the second time. Will this country finally get it now?? Time will tell…time will tell.
Happy Easter to all….have to make the sweet potatoes now!
April 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pmHasn’t he been a permanent resident since then?
:)Comment by trueblue
As far as I’m concerned….. Heh.
Comment by Zooey — April 7, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
ok… you need to check out BOSTON LEGAL on tuesday nights…
shatner is a hoot… the whole show takes on timely and relevant news stories and manages to present “both” sides intelligently…
but shatner, as the rightwing, gun toting, oblivious, selfish, fatcat is rich…
just sayin’…
April 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmSaying that the terrorists will follow us home if we leave Iraq is the desperate illogic of fearful right-wingers who are looking for an excuse to blame others when their immoral war fails.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:44 pmI think the Bush theory that the terrorists will follow us home is more like the Dominoes Pizza Theory…If we don’t kill all terrorists they’ll be arriving at our homes with an explosive pizza in 30 minutes or less.
-GSD
April 7th, 2007 at 4:47 pmzup Zooey! only on for aminute or two…I just bought 6 pounds of various mushrooms!!!
April 7th, 2007 at 4:47 pmp1 is really getting strange doncha think?
there used to be at least some semblance of a thought process, but now….i just dont know anymore…
just sayin’…
Comment by katy
No tv around here!
I have heard he’s good on that show. I think when he finally stopped taking himself so seriously, he really improved. :)
April 7th, 2007 at 4:49 pmnor do i really care, come to think of it! :D
April 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pmzup Zooey! only on for aminute or two…I just bought 6 pounds of various mushrooms!!!
p1 is really getting strange doncha think?
there used to be at least some semblance of a thought process, but now….i just dont know anymore…
Comment by whiteyfresh
Six pounds of mushrooms? Yum. You’ll need 12 pounds of steak and onions to go with them. :D
Whitey, sadly enough our trolls are all broken. They can’t take much stress….
April 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pmBin Laden”s plan is to BANKRUPT America, just like he think’s he did to the Soviet Union. Flying planes into buildings was just a tactic, and would never have happened if Bush wasn’t asleep at the switch. The Chinese now hold a TRILLION US DOLLARS. Bush is stearing the country towards an American Glastnost.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:52 pmThe flaw is in the premise.
In order for the logic of the “follow us home” argument to work, terrorists must be a centrally commanded organization whose entire efforts are expended in Iraq. There must be no other terrorist organization in the world, or, if other organizations do exist, they lack the capability of travel to the United States without the resources tied up in Iraq.
Let’s face it, if terrorists really wanted to do damage to the U.S. all they would have to do is hijack a few chorine tankers.
Of course, for those who believe that operatives within our own government were responsible for 9/11, the detonation of a few chlorine tankers around the U.S. prior to the ‘08 elections might cause enough panic to declare martial law…
April 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmwe’re having an Iron Chef party tomorrow!!!!can you guess what the secret ingredient is???
April 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmI Like Jake. there. i’ve said it. But lately, even Jake’s been posting some bizzaro things…
I’m looking forward to April 17th. I hope Schumer gets his memos..
Whitey, sadly enough our trolls are all broken. They can’t take much stress….
Comment by Zooey — April 7, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Maybe TP can open up a sister site: Troll Rehab.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmof course the us govt was in on 911… jesus, look at all the evidence.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmOn a different note:
In spite of, or perhaps because of, the earlier prediction of a U.S. led bombing attack on Iran commencing on Good Friday, no such attack occured.
For that, we can all be thankful.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:58 pmBriseadh: what perfect timing.. then they wouldn’t have to revoke the 22nd amendment so Bushie could serve a third term as boy-king.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:58 pmwe’re having an Iron Chef party tomorrow!!!!can you guess what the secret ingredient is???
Comment by whiteyfresh
Oh man, that sounds totally cool — and delicious. Have fun!
April 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmThank goodness, cause then he’d be a teen-ager king…
April 7th, 2007 at 5:02 pmMaybe TP can open up a sister site: Troll Rehab.
Comment by Briseadh_na_faire
Nah…
April 7th, 2007 at 5:02 pmalright…grrrrr. I gotta go finish(ugh)cleaning my house..
April 7th, 2007 at 5:08 pmit’s been fun!
Let’s not forget Saudi Arabia, with all their funding and now again bushco’s best friend, each with their hand’s up each other’s skirt’s…I am alway’s baffled by the sheer ignorance and blatent disregard of law when I watch how thing’s unfold in the most evil administration the world has ever seen…Granted there were 7 million jew’s killed by another evil bunch, but this crew is rapidly gaining on the evil meter..The bush bunch are comitting genocide…Blessings
April 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pm#89 – TP can call it Remedial Trollism.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmThe terrorists already have made it… they are here… now.
Terrorism in USA
April 7th, 2007 at 5:11 pmHave a great party, whitey!
April 7th, 2007 at 5:11 pmIn spite of, or perhaps because of, the earlier prediction of a U.S. led bombing attack on Iran commencing on Good Friday, no such attack occured.
For that, we can all be thankful.
Comment by Briseadh_na_faire
I’m extremely thankful that the reports of that attack were wrong.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:21 pmhttp://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=182529
Conservatives for the Constitution
About time. This is something ALL of us should rail for.
Troll Rehab eh? Maybe they should call it Mission Impossible.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:36 pmThe terrorists already have made it… they are here… now.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — April 7, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
If the neocons were to be perfectly honest about it – we trained the 9/11 hijackers – here – in the United States. They lived among us for years while they were trained in US flight schools… We harbored the terrorists too… Let them wrap their tiny little pea brains around that for a while…
April 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pmI’m extremely thankful that the reports of that attack were wrong.
Comment by Zooey
Same here, Iran is four times the size of Iraq. Our economy would go bust if they tried to take on Iran
[Which BTW is where our creditor China gets oil]
Let them wrap their tiny little pea brains around that for a while…
Comment by unbelievable
You mean ‘Pee’ Brains dontcha? =)
April 7th, 2007 at 5:45 pm‘
You mean ‘Pee’ Brains dontcha? =)
Comment by Zep Tepi — April 7, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
I stand corrected :)
April 7th, 2007 at 5:49 pmOy, I’m soooo tired of studying….
April 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmLibs just want the terrorists to come here because they hate amarica.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 7, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Heh…can’t even spell “America.” Oh, and it’s capitalized, idiot.
Oh, and Bush, Powell, and Bremer hate America, too, because they once emboldened the terrorists by claiming that the U.S. would leave Iraq if the Iraqi government asked us to.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:53 pmWhy doesn’t someone follow Bush and Cheney home? They are the real terrorists.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmJuan: “Ignore the stupid troll.” – - No need to be redundant.
April 7th, 2007 at 6:02 pmit is disgustingly insane, pathetic, arrogant, and self-absorbed to think that “the terrorist”, i.e., Islamic religious fundamentalists want anything to do with America or Americans. Their message has always been that they think we are a vile loathsome culture in which our presence on THEIR lands putrefies and despoils THEIR lands and culture so they want America out of THEIR lands; NOT that they want to take over America so they can dominate our really interesting and fascinating culture. republican cultist are so damn pathetic.
April 7th, 2007 at 6:09 pm.
Why do we need a report telling us this? It was just Bush and Cheney fear mongering to the paranoid among us. I think most people understand this now.
April 7th, 2007 at 6:12 pmHeh…can’t even spell “America.†Oh, and it’s capitalized, idiot.
Comment by WC — April 7, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Evidence that even trolling has been outsourced to Pakistan!
April 7th, 2007 at 6:14 pmTerrorists can come to the U.S. right now if they want! What the hell does staying or leaving Iraq have to do with it? We wern’t in Iraq on 9/11 and they came. Follow us? Like they don’t know how to get here? How about we secure OUR country from terrorism with hundreds of billions of dollars instead of destroying one in the middle east?? Oh wait, that wouldn’t enrich any military contractors or oil companies, would it?
April 7th, 2007 at 6:28 pmThe “terrorists” are already in America.
Their names are Cheney, Rove, Bush, Rice, Wolfowitz, Feith, Wurmser, Ledeen, Rumsfeld, Armitage, Bush Sr., Rockefeller, Libby, Rhode, Zakheim, Alexander, Lieberman, Pearle, Kristol, Gonzalez, Fleischer, and all the rest of the co-conspirators who signed the PNAC calling for the New Pearl Harbor as the pretext for all that has followed.
These are the real terrorists.
April 7th, 2007 at 6:44 pmLibs just want the terrorists to come here because they hate amarica.
Comment by Patrick1
No, we want P1 to go where the terrorists are, that way all you wackos can kill each other off and leave us in peace.
April 7th, 2007 at 6:51 pmWas it ever discovered who attacked Congress democrats with that Anthrax?
April 7th, 2007 at 6:53 pmNo, we want P1 to go where the terrorists are, that way all you wackos can kill each other off and leave us in peace.
Comment by Zep Tepi
Why did a Laurel & Hardy movie just pop into my mind…?
April 7th, 2007 at 6:58 pmThe point that, and I think all the other analysts, were trying to make in the article is not that the terrorists would come here, but that problem is that if the US simply left Iraq the problems would not go away and the US would still have to deal with them.
April 7th, 2007 at 7:03 pmACTUALLY, Monkey Boy CHIMPya, NOT ONLY HAVE THE ENEMY FOLLOWED US HOME, THEY HAVE BEEN IN AMERICA FROM THE VERY BEGINNING—THE GREATEST TERRORIST ENEMY OF AMERICA IS YOU, George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney, Karl Christian(a more INAPPROPRIATE MIDDLE NAME FOR A DEMON F*CK NEVER EXISTED)Rove, Condoleeza Rice, Alberto Gonzales(IS HE STILL HERE?????) and Bushland Uber Allies, YOU PACK OF FASCIST-NAZI-GOOSESTEPPING TERRORISTS!!!!! YOU ARE THE ENEMY, AND MUST BE DEFEATED, BROUGHT DOWN AND DESTROYED FOR THE GOOD OF AMERICA!!!!! PEOPLE OF AMERICA, RISE UP AND LIQUIDATE CHIMPya, FRANKENCheney and Bushland Uber Allies NOW!!!!!
April 7th, 2007 at 8:16 pmMatt – How many hits have we taken on US soil while we have been in Iraq and Afghanistan? I like your suppositions….I predict no hits here until after the ‘08 election. The Koranimals do not want to rile up the sleeping security moms before we can elect a Democrat….
April 7th, 2007 at 8:17 pmHow many hits have we taken on US soil while we have been in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Comment by valiant venus #119
So vaginal vacuum,
…YOU don’t consider…
…every DEAD and MAIMED U.S.soldier…
…a “hit” against American soil?
…For YOU it’s okay that Americans are “DYING over there”…
…so long as YOUR loved one don’t “DIE over here”?
…WHO in His/her/their right mind would sacrifice a child,spouse or significant other…
…for a self-serving, egocentric, greedy, racist, unfeeling group of sh*t breeding inbreds…
…like YOU and your right wing TREASONOUS kind?
…May God’s vengeance visit you and your kind soon…
…and make your suffering a thousand times that of the people you’ve EXPORTED death and destruction to…
April 7th, 2007 at 8:28 pmMatt – How many hits have we taken on US soil while we have been in Iraq and Afghanistan? I like your suppositions….I predict no hits here until after the ‘08 election. The Koranimals do not want to rile up the sleeping security moms before we can elect a Democrat….
Comment by valiant venus
The new guy probably won’t answer you either, you pitiful creature.
It’s surprising that a Christianinny such as yourself has forgotten that the terroists were soooo hoping GWB would be re-elected. They like Republicans because they have so much in common with terroists.
You’re welcome.
April 7th, 2007 at 8:30 pmI once worked at GTEDS where a very opinionated “Tech Leader” said he would never eat mushrooms because they are raised in manure. He was so upset when one of the contractors suggested that he give up beef, lamb, poultry, pork, fruit and vegetables if he was so concerned (actually turned red-faced and bug-eyed) that the contractor was sent packing. Every time I see W speak, I think of that poor excuse of a man.
April 7th, 2007 at 8:46 pmWell good heavens, I hope they don’t follow us back! We have enough on our hands here out west, shooting it out with the Vietcong everyday…
April 7th, 2007 at 9:07 pmYou gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
Comment by firehead — April 7, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
He’s NOT the leader of the free world. He is only the Pres of the USA. And the USA is NOT the free world. In fact, it ranks down the list quite a ways.
April 7th, 2007 at 9:44 pmLISTEN DUDE………. IT’S NOT A ISSUE OF TERRORISTS AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!
IT’S A ISSUE OF A PREFABRICATION FOR OIL AND CONTROL IN IRAQ
BY HEAVY LOBBYING OF ISRAEL AND THE OIL COMPANIES AND
POLITICAL PARASITES/LEECHES
IT’S DOG GONE CORRUPT
9/11 SOME SAY IT WAS ALL PREFABRICATED BUT IF IT WASN’T
THERE ARE LONG TIES BETWEEN POWERFUL FAMILIES (LIKE BUSH)
AND OIL PRODUCING ADMINISTRATIONS
ANYTHING THE GOVERNMENT DOES TURNS OUT TO BE A MESS
INEFFICIENT
WASTEFUL
CORRUPT
SCANDALS
YA KNOW ANTICORRUPTION DUDE ANTICORRUPTION
JIMMY KNOWS DALE KIND OF C**P
EPA
A SCANDAL
DEFENSE
TOTALLY BOUGHT OUT AND CORRUPTED
JUSTICE
A COMPLETE JOKE, TOTAL CORRUPT
EVER HEAR ABOUT SUPERFUND ANYMORE
LINING POCKETS
PAYOFFS
IT’S DISGUSTING TO SEE A TOTALLY CORRUPT THING
NEXT TO THE AMERICAN FLAG LIKE THEIR SOME
THING SERVING THE PEOPLE
THOSE DAYS A LONG GONE GONE GONE
WE ARE IN SO MUCH DEBT
FACING A MAJOR ENVIORNMENTAL ISSUE
IF GLOBAL WARMING IS TRUE
DURING THE 1950′S THEY SHOULD HAVE
INVESTED IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
AS CITIES WERE BEING BUILT BUT NO NO NO
EXXON, STANDARD, SHELL
SOCIETY IS ALL PREFABRICATED, POLITICIZED YA KNOW
GOALS, PLANNING STAGES
SO IS TERRORISM
AND NOW THEY GOT A REASON TO GET
THESE POLITICAL PARASITES/LEECHES BACK
SO MUCH FOR THE SOLUTION OF TERRORISTS
A
N
Y
T
H
I
N
G
THESE PARASITES TO
THEY
CORRUPT
WASTE
INEFFICIENT
MAKE A DOG GONE MESS OUT OF THINGS
LIKE THE $25,000 SILK COVERED CHAIRS
OR $100 BOLT OR $5000 THROW RUG
IT’S ALL DOG GONE CORRUPTED
THEN THEY ARE KNOW WHERE TO BE SEEN
April 7th, 2007 at 10:05 pmDOG GONE STAY ON COURSE AT $500 BILLIONS A YEAR
LINING BANKERS POCKETS
PUTTING US IN DEBT FOR ETERNITY
ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYONE
TOTALLY PUKE
AT THE
WASTE
CRONY’S
CORRUPTION
A BUNCH OF
POLITICAL
April 7th, 2007 at 10:06 pmPARASITES/
LEECHES
OH ONE MORE THING -
YOU DON’T THINK IRAQ IS A SCANDAL….
GUESS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH SUB PRIME MORTGAGES
REPEAT OF SAVINGS/LOAN SCANDAL
AND GLOBAL WARMING
A SCANDAL, THEY AIN’T GOING TO DO ANYTHING
IT HURTS THE ECONOMY TOO MUCH
THE POLITICAL PARASITES/LEECHES
MAKE
April 7th, 2007 at 10:11 pmA
MESS
OUT
OF
THINGS
#2 That one is easy. Yeah.
April 7th, 2007 at 10:23 pmBring em on! It”ll give Mitt something to shoot at again.
April 7th, 2007 at 10:32 pm#129 Mitt won’t shoot anything he needs a permit for.
April 7th, 2007 at 10:34 pmall were doing is training the next generations on how to kill Americans. The IED/roadside bombs they are making is practice. This deadly technology is going to be exported everywhere. They are learning as fast as we can teach them.
April 7th, 2007 at 10:38 pmComment by AmondGhad #131
…don’t forget the chlorine bombs…
…Iraq is one big training camp…
…for al Qaeda…
…and Bushiva and L’il Dick know it…
…profits for years…
…and “when we’re out of office…
…no exposure or public pressure, the NEXT administration can handle it”:
-Bushiva, L’il Dick and Co.-
April 7th, 2007 at 10:44 pmLISTEN DUDE……..
IF WE HAD CIVIL SERVANTS OF HONESTY/INTEGRITY
THINGS
WOULD
BE
OKAY
INSTEAD, WE GET SLICK, FAST TALKIN, SMOOTH, COMPULSIVE
LIARS
CORRUPT DUDE/DUDETTE CORRUPT
WE GET
ONE SCANDAL AFTER THE NEXT
ONE LIE AFTER THE NEXT
A BILL FOR
500 $25,000 SILK COVERED CHAIRS
5 BILLION INTEREST PER DAY
SO MUCH DOG GONE WASTE
ANYTHING THE GOVERNMENT DOES THEY MAKE
A
DOG
GONE MESS OUT OF THINGS
BECAUSE
THEY MAKE THEIR PROMISE TO GET IN
April 7th, 2007 at 11:01 pmDON’T KEEP THEIR PROMISE
AND INSTEAD OF INTEGRITY
THEY BECOME PARASITES/LEECHES
He’s NOT the leader of the free world. He is only the Pres of the USA. And the USA is NOT the free world. In fact, it ranks down the list quite a ways.
Comment by right wing nut — April 7, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
Well, to be fair the US used to be the leader of the free world.
Back when they all listened to us.
Only recently, thanks to George W Bush and the airheads who support him, did people stop listening to us and turning to us for leadership.
Now they turn to us for laughter, ridicule and scorn.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:12 pmIf this is what a republican calls being successful, then lets hope they’re done succeeding.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:13 pm#135 They are done. It was funny…I read an article about moderate Repubs being virtually relieved that Dems were in power because they could vote their conscience (cowards couldn’t do it 6 months ago). One guy even said something to the effect that the pressure wasn’t on them to write bills. The Republicans were great at being the minority party and I truly think that is what they are good at (being contrarian aholes). I think the public is quite willing to give them their wish for at least a decade.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:23 pmWell I will say this J.
Bush has the Easter spirit.
He’s helped accelerate the ressurections of hundreds of thousands of people.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:28 pmAnd he sure has laid a lot of eggs lately.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:32 pmBush has the Easter spirit.
He’s helped accelerate the ressurections of hundreds of thousands of people
And he sure has laid a lot of eggs lately.
Comment by WORFEUS #s 137 & 138
hahaha!!!!
..okay WORF…
…time for us all to pack it in…
…I just heard the drumbeat…
…and two drunken patrons applauding…
…in a smoke-filled lounge…
April 7th, 2007 at 11:47 pmA president would have to have a pretty low estimate of the intelligence of the American people to keep parroting “We’re fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here.”
April 8th, 2007 at 3:00 amPatrick, why is it that the GOP is the party that wants to drag its feet in implementing the recommendations of the 911 Commmission? Who hates America, may I ask you? oF COURSE, Your answer is highly predictable…LIBERAL BIAS in the 911 Commission…eh?
April 8th, 2007 at 3:51 amExactly how are they going to follow us? In drift rafts, makeshift sailboats, or will they just show up at Baghdad International with their mk 47s, bandoleers and IEDs? They could attempt to channel thru Mexico, but wouldn’t they have to know a little Spanish?
April 8th, 2007 at 8:45 amPlease please please please stay in Iraq! Please be dead-enders !! Pleezzzzeeeese!
Please please stay, please mess up the middle east further, please please support torture, Please get more of your own troops killed in meaningless patrols!
Please please don’t update your infrastructure, please please don’t deal with your social problems or rebuild New Orleans!
Please become more militaristic and dominated by Isreal!!!
PLease stay in Iraq! If you don’t fight the world’s one billion muslims they will follow you home and rape your daughters!!!!
April 8th, 2007 at 9:30 am….I guess we failed as a country to learn the lesson of Vietnam so we’re getting to redo it all over again in Iraq! That’s how the universe works, as we all know….if you don’t get it the first time, it comes back and is much worse the second time. Will this country finally get it now?? Time will tell…time will tell.
Happy Easter to all….have to make the sweet potatoes now!
Comment by veritas — April 7, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
I am pessimistic about this. Think military industrial complex, Blackwater’s 20,000 strong army and the young rumsfelds and cheneys that all have combined to form the American Al-qaeda thanks to the current bunch of goons in the administration.
April 8th, 2007 at 12:27 pmIf memory serves, 9/11 happened BEFORE we went into Iraq. So they were already here and Bush Co. did nothing to stop them. They can’t follow us home when they are already here. Thanks to our unguarded borders. Bush was on vacation (the first of many) when he got the PDB “Bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States”. He ignored that warning and the FBI agent from AZ who was trying to get some attention with his concerns. No one listened. Osama who? Now the people in Iraq want to put back up the statue of Saddam. They miss the “good ole days”. I support our military and I know that they have been honorable in the call, but this president has abused them and his power. I am a marine vet and the mother of 2 children serving. My son was in Iraq last year and will leave again in the summer. Even he doesn’t know why we are there. The IP are dirty, the IA are retards. This is a civil war and the politicians over there need to get their act together so we can get our kids home. I have read that there are about 3500, plus or minus “cells” in this country that are being monitored. We are there, they are here. Don’t take rocket science. At least if we had to fight them here like the wing nut neocons are saying it would be on our terms. We don’t know who we are supposed to fight over there.
April 8th, 2007 at 12:30 pmEh, I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Bush is using his old tactic of simplifying reality so as to justify his reasoning for continuing Operation Iraqi Freedom to the American people. His old statements such as “we’re going to stay the course” and “surging” 21,000 troops to “improve security” are surely as laughable as “the terrorists will follow us home”. Really now, if there was any terrorist state to go after, it would’ve been North Korea.
I honestly think Iraq will go down in history as America’s worst foreign policy blunder. I can’t speculate on what’s going through Bush’s mind. I don’t know if he’s just dumb, can’t face reality, or that over-masculine Texas attitude won’t let him back down until his term is over. All jokes aside, I think Bush and the Republican Party simply stand to loose way too much if Democrats get their way and force a withdrawal. Bush simply because he represents any number of big business ventures (including Halliburton and the big oil conglomerates) as their official pass for exploiting Iraq, and the Republican Party simply because they back him as a candidate for presidency (twice!!). So, please tell me how this just boils down a “liberal” versus “conservative” fight?
Liberals let too many illegal immigrants into the country, conservatives start pointless wars for economic gain. Take your pick if you look at the world that narrowly.
April 8th, 2007 at 4:16 pmContrary to public opinion, the angst and “collective guilt of the Left” is beneficial to our country.
Leftists make excuses for all manner of criminals, social misfits and libertines,,,and expect perfection from the American government – run by people. Letists are generally willing to believe ANY opponent or enemy of the US and give that enemy EVERY benefit of the doubt. (Of course, in their misplaced zeal to appear “fair”, such benefit is NEVER accorded their own country.)
As I noted, the benefit of misguided Leftists is clear – they are examples to point to and say, “This person is an excellent example of why moral relativism ruins a society.”
April 8th, 2007 at 4:30 pmYou have somewhat of a valid point, Valliant, but the Iraq War hardly falls along the lines of “left vs. right”. If it did, the world would be much simpler. That’s the problem with the Bush Administration, Bush tries to pawn the war off as a simple “us versus them” or “good versus evil” fight and it’s not that at all.
Frankly, as I said above, if you look at the world through black/white party lines, you could just as easily say “leftists let too many illegal immigrants in, conservatives start pointless wars.” And the US is not really a socialist nation, so you should ask yourself “what has the right done for me in conducting this war?” There hasn’t been a decrease in gas prices, despite Halliburton boating it out as fast as they can, taxes haven’t gone down, among other things half the world things the US is a villainous nation. So again, what has Bush and his Republican Right done good for the country.
I’m saying the “right” is bad at all, but if you’re going to directly compare them to the left, it was the right has gotten the country into more trouble and wars.
April 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pmSomebody please tell me why Bush is still rated at 30% for months when he’s been screwing up for months since it fell that low!
April 8th, 2007 at 7:00 pmWhat most didn’t know 2 years ago. I posted a lot of posts that we the military were spreading the terrorists around the world. And now more and more reports have come out to prove such evidence. Good job georgie.
April 8th, 2007 at 8:16 pmThey probably won’t even follow us into Kuwait:
SEN. GRAHAM: And — I don’t want to use any more — the bottom line is, if we withdraw to Kuwait, what’s the likelihood that al Qaeda-type elements would follow us to Kuwait?
ADM. MCCONNELL: Unlikely.
http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2007/03/current-intell-on-iraq-iran.html
April 9th, 2007 at 7:54 am[...] a new survey of military and diplomatic analysts concludes that “the likelihood that enemy combatants from Iraq might follow departing U.S. forces back to the United States is remote at best.” The danger is that staying in Iraq is breeding [...]
April 10th, 2007 at 4:09 pmIn a comment, you said:
Bulls@it. The President has said the terrorists will follow him home. He is basing that on fact. You gonna call the leader of the free world a liar?
You guys are laughable.
Comment by firehead — April 7, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
What evidence do you have that he is basing this on fact??? In fact, if he has facts to back this up, why has he NEVER explained them???
YOU are an idiot if you think that, just because this MAN (not GOD) happens to be President that he isn’t capable of lying or at least stretching the facts to suit his needs.
You should listen and respond to the experts quoted in the article, rather than responding to those making comments on the article. Because the experts say that Bush is NOT CORRECT when he makes this ridiculous statement over and over again – which he just made again this morning!!!
Not only are there NO FACTS to support this ridiculous contention, but Bush’s position actually defies logic. In fact, when the 911 attacks took place, we were NOT in Iraq. So how do you and Bush explain that? Additionally, I would imagine that it would be virtually impossible for the U.S. to turn into some sort of terrorist battleground like Iraq. In fact, from what I can tell, we seem to be catching and stopping any and every terrorist plot that gets planned these days.
No. This is nothing more or less than POLITICAL TERRORISM. Bush is basically trying to SCARE the American people into doing what he wants. For whatever reason, he is totally invested in this war and he obviously thinks everyone else should be as well.
BTW, the current situation with a “nuclear Iran” makes another great point about the START of the war in Iraq:
It has always been my position that, if we REALLY believed that Hussein had WMD’s, we would certainly never have attacked. Indeed, if he had such weapons, why did he not immediately use them to repeal the U.S. invasion?
I believe that the reason we are not looking at military options in Iran is for this very reason: I think we KNOW that Iran has such weapons and, as such, would USE them, if attacked – something the U.S. does not want any part of.
If this is true, I think the fact that we even invaded Iraq PROVES that we KNEW there were no WMD there. As such, the entire war IS illegitimate. And, since the original reason for the war was invalid, Bush naturally has to come up with something else. And it’s so obvious what he’s doing:
He’s basically trying to hypnotize and brainwash the American people: He believes that, if he says this over and over again, people will start to believe him.
And you are the perfect proof that he has a point. You have no logical reason to believe this man and yet you do. That is the classic definition of “brainwashing”: to hold the opinion of another without critically examining or coming to the opinion on one’s own.
Good luck, Lemming!
April 16th, 2007 at 11:32 am