Jim Lobe writes, “There is little doubt among Middle East analysts here that [Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott] Abrams is playing a lead role in White House efforts to discredit Pelosi for meeting with Assad,” just as he did in a similar incident in 1987.
UPDATE: “At the one and only meeting between Imad Moustapha, the Syrian ambassador to the United States, and a White House official, one of President Bush’s closest advisers, Elliot Abrams, said the administration saw no good reason to ‘reward’ Syria by opening discussions.”

A neocon scumbag. Surprise, surprise.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:43 pmSounds like if he was a US atty, he’d be in line for a promotion!
Nick Kasoff
April 9th, 2007 at 9:48 pmThe Thug Report
Abrams must leave a slime trail wherever he goes.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:50 pm#2 Yeah, he would be up there with Biskupic in WI.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:51 pmRepublicans need some new tricks. They sound like they’re in their last throes, if you will.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:52 pmHOW can we get rid of these nuts?
April 9th, 2007 at 9:52 pm#6 Honestly, I think the PNAC neocon is a dying breed. A few months ago they were attacking the Bush administration. It didn’t work so now they are going back into attack mode. Their strategies are desperate and won’t work outside the 30%ers. Stick a fork in them.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:56 pmMust be hard for the NeoCons to be shown up by a woman, huh??
Nancy, U go Girl!!
April 9th, 2007 at 9:57 pmElliot Abrams one of the biggest GOP slimballs convicted (and later pardoned) on charges related to the Iran-Contra scandal, a charter member of PNAC, aligned with the Likud party in Israel, may be directly involved in the Valerie Plame leak and a traitor like Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, and all the other Zionists
April 9th, 2007 at 9:58 pmWe see no reason to reward Elliot Abrams with a cushy job after his involvement in Iran-Contra, but hey, there he is, a Deputy National Security Advisor!
Maybe Pelosi wants to give Syria the same second chance you got, Elliot.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:00 pm#8 I forgot that Abrams was one of the pardonees. Thanks for reminding me.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:02 pm#9 Actually, Syria hasn’t done anything to the US, only Israel (indirectly).
April 9th, 2007 at 10:03 pmIs a Deputy National Security Advisor like being a 3rd Runner-up on American Idol?
April 9th, 2007 at 10:06 pmFor deleting my factual comment Think Progress can go fly a kite.
Never posting here again.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:07 pmWeird, #10 was the wrong thread.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:07 pm#12 While I am annoyed with the post number switches, what did you say that was deleted?
April 9th, 2007 at 10:09 pmYeah, #12 is wrong.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:09 pmelliot abrahms has been damaging american foreign relations and foreign policy for a very long time.
as i recall,
he was one of the figures in the iran-contra imbroglio ( associated with south america)
so let’s see, how many years would that be?
20 + years of incompetence and mischief making.
you have to admit,
the republican party is such an impressive institution;
they really have a genius for picking , over and over again, the guy who will make sure
things are done wrong.
elliott abrahms - mr. (republican) ambassador.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:12 pm#15 To be fair he should still be in prison. It isn’t his fault Senior pardoned him.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:19 pmThis guy needs to go. Do a little research on our buddy Abrams.
Nothing good, ever, comes from this f*ck. One seriously creepy crawler all the way.
A lot of good would come from front paging this freak. He makes sure
April 9th, 2007 at 10:19 pmit’s all done in the shadows… I detest this freakin bug.
Reward?? Pelosi attempting diplomacy is considered a “reward” - how about an obligation, Abrams??
April 9th, 2007 at 10:55 pm#18 You forget that the righties do things for reasons. Abrams reason was a pardon.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:58 pmPerhaps Abrams has been “rewarded” far too long for being nothing more than an arrogant neocon??? What has he personally accomplished other than attacking anyone attempting to finesse a change in direction since “isolation” isn’t working except against us.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:58 pmWe’re effectively isolating ourselves from the entire rest of the world. Bush’s “bring ‘em on” attitude has placed a fence around this country where no one respects us any longer. How can they when the majority of americans no longer respect the people holding the highest offices in the administration? It’s a foregone conclusion.
#17 Thanks for the suggestion. Indeed, americans need to scrutinize and investigate all of Bush’s appointees because they probably have as many skeletons in their closets as he does.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:59 pmIf I was to namejack a troll, I would say:
Elliot is a true American Patriot, give him a break. At least he isn’t a surrender monkey like you guys.
See, its fun.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:04 pmAbrams is not to be trusted - he is a criminal with fewer ethics than Tony Soprano.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:06 pmCheck out Josh Marshall at Talking POints Memo — he has a video showing an Israeli paper among other things.
Check out Amb. Holbrook at C&L — he is certain this is a republican set up.
this is disgusting - a convicted felon still calling the shots
This man doesn’t even have the right to vote
April 9th, 2007 at 11:07 pm#22 I like the 3rd person thing you have going there :)
April 9th, 2007 at 11:08 pmThanks Elliot for slamming the door on diplomacy. Thanks a lot.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:10 pmThanks Elliot for slamming the door on diplomacy. Thanks a lot.
Comment by ForTruth
It’s his gift to the Universe.
The Universe has a gift for him — Karma.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:14 pmHey, another reformed criminal from Poppy’s days. Maybe they can get the band back together and start shipping missiles to the Iranians with Ollie North.
-GSD
April 9th, 2007 at 11:26 pmWords not action. Halliburton just finished it’s work in Iran as Bush called them the axis of evil. Now Syria allowed Bush to bring prisoners to be tortured but I guess it’s better to keep up the front that Bush doesn’t like Syria. Bush is made that Pelosi found out how well the Syrian President and Bush were working together for the pass 6 years while the White House has the media and press spread the lies to the American people.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:29 pmThe foregin media isn’t on the Bush pay roll so they printed the story. The White House is making fools of the American people as Syria and Iran are working with the United States and the only US Contractor Halliburton.
Good one, well stated. But Pelosi and the Dhimmicrats are pathetic…
absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
push bad agendas
get away with treason
April 9th, 2007 at 11:33 pmfine if you’re a Democrat
.
Pelosi and the Dhimmicrats are friends with our enemies…
absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
overstep authority
undermine your government
April 9th, 2007 at 11:36 pmtalk to the enemy
.
Hey USpace, how about doing a little ditty about wiping your a$$ with the Constitution…eh?
April 9th, 2007 at 11:39 pmYeah, I know, the truth hurts…
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
don’t destroy the new Nazis
exterminate their death cult
April 9th, 2007 at 11:54 pmexpose sick evil prophets
.
#33 What hurts USpace? Introverted penile disorder? Yeah, you are probably right.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:55 pm#33 I really want to know how you feel about the Constitution, Corky. Let’s hear you rip one off.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:56 pm“A neocon scumbag. Surprise, surprise.
Comment by JPark — April 9, 2007″
And you have a good reason for calling him that name?
April 9th, 2007 at 11:59 pmUSpace,
Any comments about how Halliburton announced on Monday that they have wrapped up their work in Iran?
You know, Dick Cheney’s old company…still working with the Axis of Evil?
It got the contract to work in Iran in 2005.
How nice.
What about Bush’s best new friend in the Middle East, Muammar Ghaddaffi? You know the leader accused in the Pan Am/Lockerbie Scotland bombing. You know, the guy the Republicans love.
-GSD
April 9th, 2007 at 11:59 pm“Abrams must leave a slime trail wherever he goes.
Comment by Zooey — April 9, 2007″
Really? Did you learn about him in American History today? What did you learn?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:00 am#36 No, Michael, I just said it for the hell of it, you felon loving righty.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:00 am“HOW can we get rid of these nuts?
Comment by don — April 9, 2007″
You won’t! You’re not smart enough!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:01 amOops, sorry. I meant, and you have a good reason for not calling him that name?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:01 am#40 Glad you admit you are a nut, psycho girl.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:02 amabsurd thought –
April 10th, 2007 at 12:03 amGod of the Universe says
wars should be FREE
.
#43 Yeah…wars are free. Bush thinks so.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:05 amMichael Michael Michael…………
It doesn’t take any intelligence to get rid of you Trolls, we like to have you around to add a bit of levity here. Keep it up!!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:05 amSpaced out …..
knowing ignorance is strength ,
ignoring knowlege is sickness ,
the sage is not sick because he is sick of sickness,
therefore he is not sick .
Lao tzu Tao te ching
U on the other hand………
April 10th, 2007 at 12:08 amHmm, I am thinking USpace must be sick. Poor guy.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:13 am“#43 Yeah…wars are free. Bush thinks so.
Comment by JPark — April 10, 2007″
And brains are usually free except in your case!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:15 am#47 You are right. I earned mine. Next?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amWould you like me to own you some more, Mikey?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:18 amAnd brains are usually free except in your case!
Comment by michael — April 10, 2007 @ 12:15 am
If they’re free - you should get some! You’re in dire need of a brain transplant, you cowardly old fool.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:19 amFreeman, do you really believe in freedom?
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
don’t hate evil support it
absurd thought -
April 10th, 2007 at 12:19 amfight wars to lose
that’s what God wants
.
Michael, are you EVER going to say anything intelligent? It would be nice.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:20 amAnd you have a good reason for calling him that name?
Comment by michael — April 9, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
You offended someone else gets called the same name that fits you? Dum bass.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:21 amMichael, are you EVER going to say anything intelligent? It would be nice. Comment by JPark — April 10, 2007 @ 12:20 am
A dum bass like michael saying something intelligent? That’s like a conservative being compassionate - NOT POSSIBLE! ;)
April 10th, 2007 at 12:22 amTRUE thought:
God of the Universe says:
Bush is a MURDERER coxucker PUNK who will burn in hell for his crimes against my children…
And this MORON’s pander about my Son being his “favorite philosopher” is nothing more than BLASPHEMY.
God of the Universe sees ALL, and KNOWS
Bush will BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:22 am#51 You are funny USpace, how about saying something? No? You are just going to recite your little poem? That is what I thought. Rain Man has nothing on you.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:23 am#55 HILLARIOUS !!!!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:24 am#55 I so hope you are right. I think they will just be the miserable little b!tches they are in this life.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:25 amMr. Bush tries to use bad parenting techniques to solve world crises? “Until you behave - and submit to my will - I will not talk with you or allow you to share my table.” Right. Works on six-year olds. By the time they’re sixteen, you’ve guaranteed them years in therapy and yourself a smack in the eye.
That assumes Mr. Bush isn’t playing Dominatrix to keep these problems on the boil rather than help fix them. No hero without the right enemy, right? Now, that would be cynical, wouldn’t it?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:28 am#59 The trolls here are not parents and neither is Bush. Do you think he ever set down the rules with whore and whorier? Never happened.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:32 amPelosi the Dhimmicrat is Bush’s bitch…
absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
peace at all costs
respect religions of death
April 10th, 2007 at 12:32 amjust let them do the killing
.
Q: Mr. Bush, how much will this war cost?
AWOL Rainman Bush: About a hundred dollars. EXACLTLY a hundred dollars!!!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:32 am#61 Ok, you are kinda stupid, we get it.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:40 amTRUE THOUGHT for US(TRAITOR)space:
Bush and Cheney REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission about their involvement with the Bin Ladens and Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS.
That is, they REFUSED TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH
Tell us, oh sage one, WHY these two REFUSED to do so.
I KNOW why.
They are COXUCKER punk TRAITORS to the USA.
So are YOU…
April 10th, 2007 at 12:41 am#63, You are too clever for all…
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
there is NO science
evolution is not mine
April 10th, 2007 at 12:42 amthat is from a bigger God
.
#65 You da man USpace. Kinda stupid but da man all the same.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:44 am#65 How many on the right do you figure would agree that there is no science? A lot I would guess, you are probably right. You guys ARE pretty stupid.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:45 am#64, You hate America right? You feel sorry for terrorists right? You want to be a Dhimmi under the Taliban right? Come on, admit it…
absurd thought -
April 10th, 2007 at 12:45 amGod of the Universe says
the world is Bush’s fault
.
:)
April 10th, 2007 at 12:47 am#68 Of course not but you wouldn’t understand, would you, Corky, because you are less than human.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:49 am#68 By the way, dumbass. How are you on the Taliban issue? Cause Bush seems to be ok with them.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:50 amAnd of course you know Bush likes bin Laden.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:51 am#68
I LOVE America.
I can’t stand TRAITORS like Bush and Cheney who are WAR CRIMINALS, and have LIED the US into a quagmire in Iraq.
For the record, TRAITOR/MORON, I SUPPORTED getting Osama in Afghanistan/Pakistan.
After 2000+ days since 9/11, and Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH,
I KNOW who “hates America”.
TRAITOR coxucker PUNKS like Bush, Cheney and YOU.
So, tell me, Nazi TRAITOR to the USA…
WHY do YOU hate America??
And NO GOOD ANSWERS for Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:53 amAin’t it grand when the neo cons can only repeat transparent and flimsy lies inorder to stave off there inevitable demise , as in the case of nancy pelosi’s syrian trip . It shows how defenseless they feel .
April 10th, 2007 at 12:53 amThe other stategy over the last few days is for the nazi neo con to call their adversaries nazi’s as though that will somehow confuse the issue and provide cover for their crimes as they become apparent to the vast majority of Americans !
SAD , that they suffer so under the weight of their own mis deeds , but not so sad as the 650 000 plus Iraqi dead they killed inorder to satisfy their wet dream of global domination through oil !
For every action ,there is an equal and opposite reaction , thats Karma !
Force is followed by lack of strength ,
that is not the way of the tao ,
that which goes against the Tao ,
comes to an early end .
Lao tu
It is sad that you righties love the mastermind behind 9-11. You guys are sick.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:53 amThe Islamofacist monkeys will come to kill the so-called ‘liberals’ first…
absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
push bad agendas
get away with treason
April 10th, 2007 at 12:57 amfine if you’re a Democrat
.
I heard 65 million Iraqis were killed…
absurd thought –
April 10th, 2007 at 12:58 amGod of the Universe says
kill all Americans…
.
#76 Baaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! You can’t help but lick Bush ass, can you?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:59 amTREASON.
TRUE if you are a TRAITOR coxucker PUNK like George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, KKKarl Rove, etc.
Fine for TRAITOR Nazi azzhole-lickers of Bush…
April 10th, 2007 at 1:00 amIslamo fascist monkeys , you mean the Iraqi’s ? The very Iraqi’s whose dictator we armed to the teeth inorder to bolster a war that killed over a million Iraqi and Iranian because we couldn’t overthrow Irans government a third time .
April 10th, 2007 at 1:04 amSpaced mike’s arguments are about as impressive as the neo cons are and I’m thinking this is about all they have left , like a boxer in the 9th round whose taken too many shots to the head.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:08 amdown for the count
April 10th, 2007 at 1:11 amNo, the Jihadis who want to kill all gays and enslave all women…
absurd thought -
God of the Universe wept
when Saddam was killed
he wanted him pissed on
April 10th, 2007 at 1:12 ambeing dragged through Baghdad
.
Absurd thought
The God of the universe
April 10th, 2007 at 1:17 amengage in conversation
with something as
irrelevent as USpace
Funny how Osama, Saddam and Hitler were ALL Bush family “business associates”.
And how Osama is STILL FREE 5 1/2 years later.
And how Bush has been shown to have LIED about Iraq WMD.
And how Bush’s TRAITORS exposed a CIA COVERT OPERATIVE specializing in WMD’s in Iraq and Iran. For REVENGE.
Actually, it’s NOT funny.
It’s TREASONOUS. And GENOCIDAL.
Saddam may be in hell.
But he will be pissing gasoline on TRAITOR Bush when he gets there…
Thank you, God and Jesus.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:21 amabsurd tanken -
Gud om Universum säga
låta NY Hitler har nukes
icke gör det rädsla hans religion
April 10th, 2007 at 1:21 amhan verkligen älskar Israel
.
Absurd thought
USpace talking to
April 10th, 2007 at 1:22 amGod of the universe
who cannot
understand his
psycho babble
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never debate moonbat thoughts
truth eventually wins
April 10th, 2007 at 1:22 amone on one they will fold
.
Moonbats? Oh, you mean right-wing WACKOS like Rush, Coulter, Cheney
and TRAITOR Bush???
Yup, I agree.
By the way, Nazi azzhole-licker of TRAITOR Bush,
NO ANSWER to their REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH?
WHY do you HATE AMERICA and LOVE to lick TRAITOR Bush’s azzhole, Nazi???
BURN IN HELL, TRAITOR Bush, you MURDERER coxucker PUNK.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:27 amAbsurd thoughts
The God of the universe
April 10th, 2007 at 1:28 amsays demise
of the GOP
is the fault of
their own mouths
#83 No, the Jihadis who want to kill all gays and enslave all women…
You are fricking retarded, poet boy.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:32 amThe Dhimmicrat Party is the Communist Party, the party of self-proclaimed victims…
absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
brutal religious wars…
it will never be happy
April 10th, 2007 at 1:33 amso long as there is peace
.
USpace, you do realize that poetry is kinda girly, right?
April 10th, 2007 at 1:33 amAbsurd thought
God of the universe
created moon
and sun
And USpace
came from
from ur-anus
never debate
April 10th, 2007 at 1:33 aman ur-anusian
for they speak
with crappy intent
#88 What do you know about the truth girly Bush poet. Yes, that does sound ridiculous. Your own president would insult you for your pansyish poetry.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:34 amPoor USpace, nowhere to go. The right hates femmy poets and the left hates femmy fascists. Pity.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:36 amOh, but I am secure in my manliness so am not threatened by ‘girly’ things…
absurd thought -
April 10th, 2007 at 1:36 amGod of the Universe cares
what women wear…
.
Absurd thought
God of the universe says
Cons are the
party of corruption
pedophelia and sin
if they come
to your home
never let them in
for they cloak
April 10th, 2007 at 1:41 amthemselves in
name of my son
but they hail
fire and brimstone
and are from
Evil Mammon
offspring of sin
Oh, but I am insecure in my manliness so am not threatened by ‘girly’ things…
absurd thought -
God of the Universe cares
what women wear…
And I Uspace
wear crotchless panties
Backwards…..
April 10th, 2007 at 1:43 amAbsurd thought
The God of the universe
gave me a bicycle
with no seat
Just a pole….
April 10th, 2007 at 1:45 amyou lying little angry racist terrorist-loving communist scumbag…
absurd thought -
April 10th, 2007 at 2:06 amGod of the Universe says
hide behind opponents name
.
Elliott Abrams, WAR CRIMINAL AND SPECTRE FROM IRAN-CONTRA DAYS, CONVICTED CRIMINAL, Straussian neo-CON-man AND PART OF THE SINISTER EVIL Jewish neo-CON CABAL OF COMMON CRIMINALS UP TO THEIR NECKS IN MASS MURDER, DEATH SQUADS, FASCIST-NAZI GOOSE-STEPPING ACTIVITIES SINCE Reagan’s DAYS, THROUGH POPPY Bush 41, and NOW INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINAL CHIMPya W.Bush, WHO HAS SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH neo-CON-men WAR CRIMINALS LIKE Abrams, Jews WHO HAVE BECOME THE VERY FASCIST-NAZI THAT ALL TRUE JEWS IN BOTH AMERICA, ISRAEL AND THE REST OF THE WORLD OPPOSE AND HAVE ALWAYS OPPOSED!!!! Straussian EVIL neo-CON FASCIST-NAZI WAR CRIMINALS, THESE CREEPS LIKE Abrams, Perle, WolfFARTWhizz, Addington, Yoo, Kristol, PNAC, ET CETERA AD NAUSEUM MUST ALL BE ROUNDED UP AND LIQUIDATED FOR THE PEACE AND SAFETY OF THE WORLD—THESE CREEPS MUST GO, PERMANENTLY!!!!! AND NO MANNER OF SWIFT-BOAT-SHIT-SMEARS CAN STOP THEIR DESTRUCTION AT THE HANDS OF TRUE AMERICANS—-Abrams, YOU ARE DONE, YOU TRAITOR AND TERRORIST!!!!! trolls, IF YOU DEFEND Abrams AND HIS ILK, YA ARE NO BETTER THAN THEY, AND DESERVE THE SAME TREATMENT!!!!!
April 10th, 2007 at 2:23 amAbsurd thought-
God of the Universe-
April 10th, 2007 at 2:36 amwhen i touch my mothers boob,
should I feel warm inside?
A neocon scumbag. Surprise, surprise.
Comment by JPark — April 9, 2007″
And you have a good reason for calling him that name?
he was an enabler and apologist for U.S. funded right wing Central American death squads, amongst other things. yes, the very sort of stuff that, if someone you didnt like were doing, you would call “terrorism”. but somehow its not terrorism when the Us outsources murder.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:39 amabsurd thought
God of the Universe
asks me why I teach gym class
I said “I like to watch children shower”
April 10th, 2007 at 2:52 amabsurd thought
God of the Universe
asks me why I edit
I said ‘It makes me feel special”
April 10th, 2007 at 3:59 amAbrams is another traitor whose loyalties are with a foreign country and we know who that troublesome country is. Why isnt he interned ?
April 10th, 2007 at 5:43 amAbsurd thought-
The God of the universe
giveth earth oil
but no instructions….
slippery like
must be for
my seatless bike
Us lying little angry racist
April 10th, 2007 at 6:48 amterrorist-loving commies
is why Uspace
trolls approve billions
spent for terrorists
to rebuild their infrastructure
Does it matter if she didn’t break the law? Find out:
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 04/ did-speaker-pelosi-break-any-law-by.html#links
April 10th, 2007 at 8:13 amUSpace,
Increase your dose, schedule a revisit with your doctor, you’ve lost touch.
April 10th, 2007 at 8:16 amrethugs really are children aren’t they? Well not children so much a childish iguess
April 10th, 2007 at 8:18 amklyde,
They appear to some as children. They are legion. They are deceivers.
April 10th, 2007 at 8:26 amWhy would she break any laws as Old Bushies sent Republican before Speaker Pelosi and after she lefted Syria.
Republican are like little chlidren that can’t have their way so they have temple tantrum.
This is like when they went after her because they claim that she wanted a bigger plane than fat Hastert to fly back to California. This was not true.
The Republican are just jealous that they are not in the MAJORITY anymore.
I guess the next two years the neocons are going to go after Pelosi on what ever she does.
They will lose more seats in the House and the Senate in 2008.
April 10th, 2007 at 9:11 amElliott, like so many in the Bush Crime Family, has already been a criminal in the government. They just lie, cheat, steal, back stab, and created wars and when they get caught they are pardoned until the next criminal steals an election, then it is the same routine over again. Disgusting. Impeach.
April 10th, 2007 at 9:15 amElliott Abrams was convicted on two counts of lying to Congress on Iran-Contra. He was later pardoned by George H. W. Bush.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ ac2/ wp-dyn/ A41843-2003May26?language=printer
And now that same convicted liar is at it again. Why doesn’t the media mention Abrams’ background of being a convicted liar, later pardoned, in relationship with the Pelosi smear.
Never mind.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:31 amOK, this is off-topic — going back to the global warming thread of last evening (and BTW, I really did have to go somewhere)… two things:
1. Why wouldn’t TP post my link to the Lindzen article in Newsweek? I have always liked TP because it is the most open of the progressive blogs, but I tried to link it twice and no dice. All my other posts went through so I know they weren’t just blocking me.
2. Some of you made reference to Lindzen’s lack of cred because he is paid by some corporations — can you provide data on this? There was a statement at the end of the article that would seem to contradict that but I am open to changing my mind on this if you have information on it.
Thanks.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:12 amWhy wouldn’t TP post my link to the Lindzen article in Newsweek? I have always liked TP because it is the most open of the progressive blogs, but I tried to link it twice and no dice. All my other posts went through so I know they weren’t just blocking me. -CI
I had no trouble finding an article and printing a link to it showing where Lindzen did agree that C02 would cause global warming and another link that posted that showed where muckdog was wrong about the Antartic ice shelf is not growing, in fact one Antartic ice shel had disintegrated and the other nearly dissappeared, (see Caprio thread)
April 10th, 2007 at 1:01 pmI’ve decided GW is a scam, and that Gore is an evil communist. Go Dubya!
April 10th, 2007 at 3:21 pmGive me more koolaid please! Many Liberals are racist hypocrits. Progressivism is a lie!
April 10th, 2007 at 3:23 pmElliott Abrams behind Pelosi attacks?…
Jim Lobe writes, “There is little doubt among Middle East analysts here that [Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott] Abrams is playing a lead role in White House efforts to discredit Pelosi for meeting with Assad,†just as he did in a similar in…
April 10th, 2007 at 9:58 pmSome of you made reference to Lindzen’s lack of cred because he is paid by some corporations — can you provide data on this?
http://www.abc.net.au/ lateline/ content/ 2005/ s1318067.htm
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT:
“TONY JONES: Why, then, are the sceptics so passionate about the arguments they’re putting forward, and they are putting them forward with incredible passion. Richard Lindzen, who we just mentioned, for example, compares global warming to eugenics as an abuse of science.
ROSS GELBSPAN: Well, Mr Lindzen does, but Mr Lindzen is really sort of out there on a limb. I don’t know very many supporters of Mr Lindzen who are not in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. Dr Lindzen himself, his research is publicly funded, but Dr Lindzen makes, as he told me, $2,500 a day consulting with fossil fuel interests, and that includes his consulting with OPEC, his consulting with the Australian coal industry, his consulting with the US coal industry and so forth. That’s not to say Dr Lindzen doesn’t believe what he says, but it is to say that he stands in very sharp distinction to really just about virtually all of the climate scientists around the world. ”
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from HARPER’S MAGAZINE/December, 1995
“Last May, Minnesota held hearings in St. Paul to determine the environmental cost of coal burning by state power plants. Three of the skeptics—Lindzen, Michaels, and Balling—were hired as expert witnesses to testify on behalf of Western Fuels Association, a $400 million consortium of coal suppliers and coal-fired utilities..Lindzen, for his part, charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels, and a speech he wrote, entitled “Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,” was underwritten by OPEC. “
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