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Elliott Abrams behind Pelosi attacks?

By Faiz Shakir on Apr 9th, 2007 at 9:42 pm

Elliott Abrams behind Pelosi attacks?

Jim Lobe writes, “There is little doubt among Middle East analysts here that [Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott] Abrams is playing a lead role in White House efforts to discredit Pelosi for meeting with Assad,” just as he did in a similar incident in 1987.

UPDATE: “At the one and only meeting between Imad Moustapha, the Syrian ambassador to the United States, and a White House official, one of President Bush’s closest advisers, Elliot Abrams, said the administration saw no good reason to ‘reward’ Syria by opening discussions.”



129 Responses to “Elliott Abrams behind Pelosi attacks?”

  1. JPark says:

    A neocon scumbag. Surprise, surprise.


  2. Nick Kasoff says:

    Sounds like if he was a US atty, he’d be in line for a promotion!

    Nick Kasoff
    The Thug Report


  3. Zooey says:

    Abrams must leave a slime trail wherever he goes.


  4. JPark says:

    #2 Yeah, he would be up there with Biskupic in WI.


  5. Republicans Are The Fear And Smear Party says:

    Republicans need some new tricks. They sound like they’re in their last throes, if you will.


  6. don says:

    HOW can we get rid of these nuts?


  7. JPark says:

    #6 Honestly, I think the PNAC neocon is a dying breed. A few months ago they were attacking the Bush administration. It didn’t work so now they are going back into attack mode. Their strategies are desperate and won’t work outside the 30%ers. Stick a fork in them.


  8. TruthinessOverAll says:

    Must be hard for the NeoCons to be shown up by a woman, huh??

    Nancy, U go Girl!!


  9. km4 says:

    Elliot Abrams one of the biggest GOP slimballs convicted (and later pardoned) on charges related to the Iran-Contra scandal, a charter member of PNAC, aligned with the Likud party in Israel, may be directly involved in the Valerie Plame leak and a traitor like Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, and all the other Zionists


  10. George says:

    We see no reason to reward Elliot Abrams with a cushy job after his involvement in Iran-Contra, but hey, there he is, a Deputy National Security Advisor!

    Maybe Pelosi wants to give Syria the same second chance you got, Elliot.


  11. JPark says:

    #8 I forgot that Abrams was one of the pardonees. Thanks for reminding me.


  12. JPark says:

    #9 Actually, Syria hasn’t done anything to the US, only Israel (indirectly).


  13. EverVigilant says:

    Is a Deputy National Security Advisor like being a 3rd Runner-up on American Idol?


  14. km4 says:

    For deleting my factual comment Think Progress can go fly a kite.

    Never posting here again.


  15. JPark says:

    Weird, #10 was the wrong thread.


  16. JPark says:

    #12 While I am annoyed with the post number switches, what did you say that was deleted?


  17. JPark says:

    Yeah, #12 is wrong.


  18. orionATL says:

    elliot abrahms has been damaging american foreign relations and foreign policy for a very long time.

    as i recall,

    he was one of the figures in the iran-contra imbroglio ( associated with south america)

    so let’s see, how many years would that be?

    20 + years of incompetence and mischief making.

    you have to admit,

    the republican party is such an impressive institution;

    they really have a genius for picking , over and over again, the guy who will make sure

    things are done wrong.

    elliott abrahms – mr. (republican) ambassador.


  19. JPark says:

    #15 To be fair he should still be in prison. It isn’t his fault Senior pardoned him.


  20. alp3 says:

    This guy needs to go. Do a little research on our buddy Abrams.
    Nothing good, ever, comes from this f*ck. One seriously creepy crawler all the way.

    A lot of good would come from front paging this freak. He makes sure
    it’s all done in the shadows… I detest this freakin bug.


  21. veritas says:

    Reward?? Pelosi attempting diplomacy is considered a “reward” – how about an obligation, Abrams??


  22. JPark says:

    #18 You forget that the righties do things for reasons. Abrams reason was a pardon.


  23. veritas says:

    Perhaps Abrams has been “rewarded” far too long for being nothing more than an arrogant neocon??? What has he personally accomplished other than attacking anyone attempting to finesse a change in direction since “isolation” isn’t working except against us.
    We’re effectively isolating ourselves from the entire rest of the world. Bush’s “bring ‘em on” attitude has placed a fence around this country where no one respects us any longer. How can they when the majority of americans no longer respect the people holding the highest offices in the administration? It’s a foregone conclusion.


  24. veritas says:

    #17 Thanks for the suggestion. Indeed, americans need to scrutinize and investigate all of Bush’s appointees because they probably have as many skeletons in their closets as he does.


  25. ForTruth says:

    If I was to namejack a troll, I would say:

    Elliot is a true American Patriot, give him a break. At least he isn’t a surrender monkey like you guys.

    See, its fun.


  26. Marie says:

    Abrams is not to be trusted – he is a criminal with fewer ethics than Tony Soprano.
    Check out Josh Marshall at Talking POints Memo — he has a video showing an Israeli paper among other things.
    Check out Amb. Holbrook at C&L — he is certain this is a republican set up.


  27. stonehinge says:

    this is disgusting – a convicted felon still calling the shots

    This man doesn’t even have the right to vote


  28. JPark says:

    #22 I like the 3rd person thing you have going there :)


  29. ForTruth says:

    Thanks Elliot for slamming the door on diplomacy. Thanks a lot.


  30. Zooey says:

    Thanks Elliot for slamming the door on diplomacy. Thanks a lot.
    Comment by ForTruth

    It’s his gift to the Universe.

    The Universe has a gift for him — Karma.


  31. GSD says:

    Hey, another reformed criminal from Poppy’s days. Maybe they can get the band back together and start shipping missiles to the Iranians with Ollie North.

    -GSD


  32. Jackie Rawlings says:

    Words not action. Halliburton just finished it’s work in Iran as Bush called them the axis of evil. Now Syria allowed Bush to bring prisoners to be tortured but I guess it’s better to keep up the front that Bush doesn’t like Syria. Bush is made that Pelosi found out how well the Syrian President and Bush were working together for the pass 6 years while the White House has the media and press spread the lies to the American people.
    The foregin media isn’t on the Bush pay roll so they printed the story. The White House is making fools of the American people as Syria and Iran are working with the United States and the only US Contractor Halliburton.


  33. USpace says:

    Good one, well stated. But Pelosi and the Dhimmicrats are pathetic…

    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    push bad agendas

    get away with treason
    fine if you’re a Democrat
    .


  34. USpace says:

    Pelosi and the Dhimmicrats are friends with our enemies…

    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    overstep authority

    undermine your government
    talk to the enemy
    .


  35. JPark says:

    Hey USpace, how about doing a little ditty about wiping your a$$ with the Constitution…eh?


  36. USpace says:

    Yeah, I know, the truth hurts…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    don’t destroy the new Nazis

    exterminate their death cult
    expose sick evil prophets
    .


  37. JPark says:

    #33 What hurts USpace? Introverted penile disorder? Yeah, you are probably right.


  38. JPark says:

    #33 I really want to know how you feel about the Constitution, Corky. Let’s hear you rip one off.


  39. michael says:

    “A neocon scumbag. Surprise, surprise.

    Comment by JPark — April 9, 2007″

    And you have a good reason for calling him that name?


  40. GSD says:

    USpace,

    Any comments about how Halliburton announced on Monday that they have wrapped up their work in Iran?

    You know, Dick Cheney’s old company…still working with the Axis of Evil?

    It got the contract to work in Iran in 2005.

    How nice.

    What about Bush’s best new friend in the Middle East, Muammar Ghaddaffi? You know the leader accused in the Pan Am/Lockerbie Scotland bombing. You know, the guy the Republicans love.

    -GSD


  41. michael says:

    “Abrams must leave a slime trail wherever he goes.

    Comment by Zooey — April 9, 2007″

    Really? Did you learn about him in American History today? What did you learn?


  42. JPark says:

    #36 No, Michael, I just said it for the hell of it, you felon loving righty.


  43. michael says:

    “HOW can we get rid of these nuts?

    Comment by don — April 9, 2007″

    You won’t! You’re not smart enough!


  44. JPark says:

    Oops, sorry. I meant, and you have a good reason for not calling him that name?


  45. JPark says:

    #40 Glad you admit you are a nut, psycho girl.


  46. USpace says:

    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    wars should be FREE
    .


  47. JPark says:

    #43 Yeah…wars are free. Bush thinks so.


  48. EverVigilant says:

    Michael Michael Michael…………

    It doesn’t take any intelligence to get rid of you Trolls, we like to have you around to add a bit of levity here. Keep it up!!


  49. freeman says:

    Spaced out …..

    knowing ignorance is strength ,
    ignoring knowlege is sickness ,
    the sage is not sick because he is sick of sickness,
    therefore he is not sick .
    Lao tzu Tao te ching

    U on the other hand………


  50. JPark says:

    Hmm, I am thinking USpace must be sick. Poor guy.


  51. michael says:

    “#43 Yeah…wars are free. Bush thinks so.

    Comment by JPark — April 10, 2007″

    And brains are usually free except in your case!


  52. JPark says:

    #47 You are right. I earned mine. Next?


  53. JPark says:

    Would you like me to own you some more, Mikey?


  54. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    And brains are usually free except in your case!
    Comment by michael — April 10, 2007 @ 12:15 am

    If they’re free – you should get some! You’re in dire need of a brain transplant, you cowardly old fool.


  55. USpace says:

    Freeman, do you really believe in freedom?

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    don’t hate evil support it

    absurd thought -
    fight wars to lose
    that’s what God wants
    .


  56. JPark says:

    Michael, are you EVER going to say anything intelligent? It would be nice.


  57. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    And you have a good reason for calling him that name?
    Comment by michael — April 9, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

    You offended someone else gets called the same name that fits you? Dum bass.


  58. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    Michael, are you EVER going to say anything intelligent? It would be nice. Comment by JPark — April 10, 2007 @ 12:20 am

    A dum bass like michael saying something intelligent? That’s like a conservative being compassionate – NOT POSSIBLE! ;)


  59. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    TRUE thought:

    God of the Universe says:

    Bush is a MURDERER coxucker PUNK who will burn in hell for his crimes against my children…

    And this MORON’s pander about my Son being his “favorite philosopher” is nothing more than BLASPHEMY.

    God of the Universe sees ALL, and KNOWS

    Bush will BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.


  60. JPark says:

    #51 You are funny USpace, how about saying something? No? You are just going to recite your little poem? That is what I thought. Rain Man has nothing on you.


  61. freeman says:

    #55 HILLARIOUS !!!!


  62. JPark says:

    #55 I so hope you are right. I think they will just be the miserable little b!tches they are in this life.


  63. earlofhuntingdon says:

    Mr. Bush tries to use bad parenting techniques to solve world crises? “Until you behave – and submit to my will – I will not talk with you or allow you to share my table.” Right. Works on six-year olds. By the time they’re sixteen, you’ve guaranteed them years in therapy and yourself a smack in the eye.

    That assumes Mr. Bush isn’t playing Dominatrix to keep these problems on the boil rather than help fix them. No hero without the right enemy, right? Now, that would be cynical, wouldn’t it?


  64. JPark says:

    #59 The trolls here are not parents and neither is Bush. Do you think he ever set down the rules with whore and whorier? Never happened.


  65. USpace says:

    Pelosi the Dhimmicrat is Bush’s bitch…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe wants
    peace at all costs

    respect religions of death
    just let them do the killing
    .


  66. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    Q: Mr. Bush, how much will this war cost?

    AWOL Rainman Bush: About a hundred dollars. EXACLTLY a hundred dollars!!!


  67. JPark says:

    #61 Ok, you are kinda stupid, we get it.


  68. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    TRUE THOUGHT for US(TRAITOR)space:

    Bush and Cheney REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission about their involvement with the Bin Ladens and Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS.

    That is, they REFUSED TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH

    Tell us, oh sage one, WHY these two REFUSED to do so.

    I KNOW why.

    They are COXUCKER punk TRAITORS to the USA.

    So are YOU…


  69. USpace says:

    #63, You are too clever for all…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    there is NO science

    evolution is not mine
    that is from a bigger God
    .


  70. JPark says:

    #65 You da man USpace. Kinda stupid but da man all the same.


  71. JPark says:

    #65 How many on the right do you figure would agree that there is no science? A lot I would guess, you are probably right. You guys ARE pretty stupid.


  72. USpace says:

    #64, You hate America right? You feel sorry for terrorists right? You want to be a Dhimmi under the Taliban right? Come on, admit it…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    the world is Bush’s fault
    .



  73. JPark says:

    #68 Of course not but you wouldn’t understand, would you, Corky, because you are less than human.


  74. JPark says:

    #68 By the way, dumbass. How are you on the Taliban issue? Cause Bush seems to be ok with them.


  75. JPark says:

    And of course you know Bush likes bin Laden.


  76. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    #68

    I LOVE America.

    I can’t stand TRAITORS like Bush and Cheney who are WAR CRIMINALS, and have LIED the US into a quagmire in Iraq.

    For the record, TRAITOR/MORON, I SUPPORTED getting Osama in Afghanistan/Pakistan.

    After 2000+ days since 9/11, and Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH,

    I KNOW who “hates America”.

    TRAITOR coxucker PUNKS like Bush, Cheney and YOU.

    So, tell me, Nazi TRAITOR to the USA…

    WHY do YOU hate America??

    And NO GOOD ANSWERS for Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH???

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


  77. freeman says:

    Ain’t it grand when the neo cons can only repeat transparent and flimsy lies inorder to stave off there inevitable demise , as in the case of nancy pelosi’s syrian trip . It shows how defenseless they feel .
    The other stategy over the last few days is for the nazi neo con to call their adversaries nazi’s as though that will somehow confuse the issue and provide cover for their crimes as they become apparent to the vast majority of Americans !
    SAD , that they suffer so under the weight of their own mis deeds , but not so sad as the 650 000 plus Iraqi dead they killed inorder to satisfy their wet dream of global domination through oil !
    For every action ,there is an equal and opposite reaction , thats Karma !
    Force is followed by lack of strength ,
    that is not the way of the tao ,
    that which goes against the Tao ,
    comes to an early end .
    Lao tu


  78. JPark says:

    It is sad that you righties love the mastermind behind 9-11. You guys are sick.


  79. USpace says:

    The Islamofacist monkeys will come to kill the so-called ‘liberals’ first…

    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    push bad agendas

    get away with treason
    fine if you’re a Democrat
    .


  80. USpace says:

    I heard 65 million Iraqis were killed…

    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    kill all Americans…
    .


  81. JPark says:

    #76 Baaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! You can’t help but lick Bush ass, can you?


  82. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    TREASON.

    TRUE if you are a TRAITOR coxucker PUNK like George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, KKKarl Rove, etc.

    Fine for TRAITOR Nazi azzhole-lickers of Bush…


  83. freeman says:

    Islamo fascist monkeys , you mean the Iraqi’s ? The very Iraqi’s whose dictator we armed to the teeth inorder to bolster a war that killed over a million Iraqi and Iranian because we couldn’t overthrow Irans government a third time .


  84. freeman says:

    Spaced mike’s arguments are about as impressive as the neo cons are and I’m thinking this is about all they have left , like a boxer in the 9th round whose taken too many shots to the head.


  85. freeman says:

    down for the count


  86. USpace says:

    No, the Jihadis who want to kill all gays and enslave all women…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe wept
    when Saddam was killed

    he wanted him pissed on
    being dragged through Baghdad
    .


  87. Zep Tepi says:

    Absurd thought

    The God of the universe
    engage in conversation
    with something as
    irrelevent as USpace


  88. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    Funny how Osama, Saddam and Hitler were ALL Bush family “business associates”.

    And how Osama is STILL FREE 5 1/2 years later.

    And how Bush has been shown to have LIED about Iraq WMD.

    And how Bush’s TRAITORS exposed a CIA COVERT OPERATIVE specializing in WMD’s in Iraq and Iran. For REVENGE.

    Actually, it’s NOT funny.

    It’s TREASONOUS. And GENOCIDAL.

    Saddam may be in hell.

    But he will be pissing gasoline on TRAITOR Bush when he gets there…

    Thank you, God and Jesus.


  89. USpace says:

    absurd tanken -
    Gud om Universum säga
    låta NY Hitler har nukes

    icke gör det rädsla hans religion
    han verkligen älskar Israel
    .


  90. Zep Tepi says:

    Absurd thought

    USpace talking to
    God of the universe
    who cannot
    understand his
    psycho babble


  91. USpace says:

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    never debate moonbat thoughts

    truth eventually wins
    one on one they will fold
    .


  92. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell says:

    Moonbats? Oh, you mean right-wing WACKOS like Rush, Coulter, Cheney

    and TRAITOR Bush???

    Yup, I agree.

    By the way, Nazi azzhole-licker of TRAITOR Bush,

    NO ANSWER to their REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH?


    WHY do you HATE AMERICA and LOVE to lick TRAITOR Bush’s azzhole, Nazi???

    BURN IN HELL, TRAITOR Bush, you MURDERER coxucker PUNK.


  93. Zep Tepi says:

    Absurd thoughts

    The God of the universe
    says demise
    of the GOP
    is the fault of
    their own mouths


  94. JPark says:

    #83 No, the Jihadis who want to kill all gays and enslave all women…

    You are fricking retarded, poet boy.


  95. USpace says:

    The Dhimmicrat Party is the Communist Party, the party of self-proclaimed victims…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe wants
    brutal religious wars…

    it will never be happy
    so long as there is peace
    .


  96. JPark says:

    USpace, you do realize that poetry is kinda girly, right?


  97. Zep Tepi says:

    Absurd thought

    God of the universe
    created moon
    and sun

    And USpace
    came from
    from ur-anus

    never debate
    an ur-anusian
    for they speak
    with crappy intent


  98. JPark says:

    #88 What do you know about the truth girly Bush poet. Yes, that does sound ridiculous. Your own president would insult you for your pansyish poetry.


  99. JPark says:

    Poor USpace, nowhere to go. The right hates femmy poets and the left hates femmy fascists. Pity.


  100. USpace says:

    Oh, but I am secure in my manliness so am not threatened by ‘girly’ things…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe cares
    what women wear…
    .


  101. Zep Tepi says:

    Absurd thought

    God of the universe says
    Cons are the
    party of corruption
    pedophelia and sin

    if they come
    to your home
    never let them in

    for they cloak
    themselves in
    name of my son
    but they hail
    fire and brimstone
    and are from
    Evil Mammon
    offspring of sin


  102. USpace says:

    Oh, but I am insecure in my manliness so am not threatened by ‘girly’ things…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe cares
    what women wear…

    And I Uspace
    wear crotchless panties

    Backwards…..


  103. USpace says:

    Absurd thought

    The God of the universe
    gave me a bicycle
    with no seat

    Just a pole….


  104. USpace says:

    you lying little angry racist terrorist-loving communist scumbag…

    absurd thought -
    God of the Universe says
    hide behind opponents name
    .


  105. Raymond Funamoto says:

    Elliott Abrams, WAR CRIMINAL AND SPECTRE FROM IRAN-CONTRA DAYS, CONVICTED CRIMINAL, Straussian neo-CON-man AND PART OF THE SINISTER EVIL Jewish neo-CON CABAL OF COMMON CRIMINALS UP TO THEIR NECKS IN MASS MURDER, DEATH SQUADS, FASCIST-NAZI GOOSE-STEPPING ACTIVITIES SINCE Reagan’s DAYS, THROUGH POPPY Bush 41, and NOW INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINAL CHIMPya W.Bush, WHO HAS SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH neo-CON-men WAR CRIMINALS LIKE Abrams, Jews WHO HAVE BECOME THE VERY FASCIST-NAZI THAT ALL TRUE JEWS IN BOTH AMERICA, ISRAEL AND THE REST OF THE WORLD OPPOSE AND HAVE ALWAYS OPPOSED!!!! Straussian EVIL neo-CON FASCIST-NAZI WAR CRIMINALS, THESE CREEPS LIKE Abrams, Perle, WolfFARTWhizz, Addington, Yoo, Kristol, PNAC, ET CETERA AD NAUSEUM MUST ALL BE ROUNDED UP AND LIQUIDATED FOR THE PEACE AND SAFETY OF THE WORLD—THESE CREEPS MUST GO, PERMANENTLY!!!!! AND NO MANNER OF SWIFT-BOAT-SHIT-SMEARS CAN STOP THEIR DESTRUCTION AT THE HANDS OF TRUE AMERICANS—-Abrams, YOU ARE DONE, YOU TRAITOR AND TERRORIST!!!!! trolls, IF YOU DEFEND Abrams AND HIS ILK, YA ARE NO BETTER THAN THEY, AND DESERVE THE SAME TREATMENT!!!!!


  106. pUsspace says:

    Absurd thought-

    God of the Universe-
    when i touch my mothers boob,
    should I feel warm inside?


  107. Chocolate Jesus Loves Incest Haikus says:

    A neocon scumbag. Surprise, surprise.

    Comment by JPark — April 9, 2007″

    And you have a good reason for calling him that name?

    he was an enabler and apologist for U.S. funded right wing Central American death squads, amongst other things. yes, the very sort of stuff that, if someone you didnt like were doing, you would call “terrorism”. but somehow its not terrorism when the Us outsources murder.


  108. Uspace says:

    absurd thought

    God of the Universe
    asks me why I teach gym class

    I said “I like to watch children shower”


  109. censored says:

    absurd thought

    God of the Universe
    asks me why I edit

    I said ‘It makes me feel special”


  110. Jason Baddo says:

    Abrams is another traitor whose loyalties are with a foreign country and we know who that troublesome country is. Why isnt he interned ?


  111. USpace says:

    Absurd thought-

    The God of the universe
    giveth earth oil
    but no instructions….

    slippery like
    must be for
    my seatless bike

    Us lying little angry racist
    terrorist-loving commies
    is why Uspace
    trolls approve billions
    spent for terrorists
    to rebuild their infrastructure



  112. Rocks911 says:

    USpace,

    Increase your dose, schedule a revisit with your doctor, you’ve lost touch.


  113. klyde says:

    rethugs really are children aren’t they? Well not children so much a childish iguess


  114. Rocks911 says:

    klyde,

    They appear to some as children. They are legion. They are deceivers.


  115. Mary Poplins says:

    Why would she break any laws as Old Bushies sent Republican before Speaker Pelosi and after she lefted Syria.

    Republican are like little chlidren that can’t have their way so they have temple tantrum.
    This is like when they went after her because they claim that she wanted a bigger plane than fat Hastert to fly back to California. This was not true.

    The Republican are just jealous that they are not in the MAJORITY anymore.
    I guess the next two years the neocons are going to go after Pelosi on what ever she does.

    They will lose more seats in the House and the Senate in 2008.


  116. kasinca says:

    Elliott, like so many in the Bush Crime Family, has already been a criminal in the government. They just lie, cheat, steal, back stab, and created wars and when they get caught they are pardoned until the next criminal steals an election, then it is the same routine over again. Disgusting. Impeach.


  117. DallasNE says:

    Elliott Abrams was convicted on two counts of lying to Congress on Iran-Contra. He was later pardoned by George H. W. Bush.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A41843-2003May26?language=printer

    And now that same convicted liar is at it again. Why doesn’t the media mention Abrams’ background of being a convicted liar, later pardoned, in relationship with the Pelosi smear.

    Never mind.


  118. Cynicon Implant says:

    OK, this is off-topic — going back to the global warming thread of last evening (and BTW, I really did have to go somewhere)… two things:

    1. Why wouldn’t TP post my link to the Lindzen article in Newsweek? I have always liked TP because it is the most open of the progressive blogs, but I tried to link it twice and no dice. All my other posts went through so I know they weren’t just blocking me.

    2. Some of you made reference to Lindzen’s lack of cred because he is paid by some corporations — can you provide data on this? There was a statement at the end of the article that would seem to contradict that but I am open to changing my mind on this if you have information on it.

    Thanks.


  119. Zep Tepi says:

    Why wouldn’t TP post my link to the Lindzen article in Newsweek? I have always liked TP because it is the most open of the progressive blogs, but I tried to link it twice and no dice. All my other posts went through so I know they weren’t just blocking me. -CI

    I had no trouble finding an article and printing a link to it showing where Lindzen did agree that C02 would cause global warming and another link that posted that showed where muckdog was wrong about the Antartic ice shelf is not growing, in fact one Antartic ice shel had disintegrated and the other nearly dissappeared, (see Caprio thread)


  120. Zep Tepi says:

    I’ve decided GW is a scam, and that Gore is an evil communist. Go Dubya!


  121. Rocks911 says:

    Give me more koolaid please! Many Liberals are racist hypocrits. Progressivism is a lie!


  122. www.buzzflash.net says:

    Elliott Abrams behind Pelosi attacks?…

    Jim Lobe writes, “There is little doubt among Middle East analysts here that [Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott] Abrams is playing a lead role in White House efforts to discredit Pelosi for meeting with Assad,” just as he did in a similar in…


  123. Chocolate Jesus says:

    Some of you made reference to Lindzen’s lack of cred because he is paid by some corporations — can you provide data on this?

    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1318067.htm

    Australian Broadcasting Corporation

    TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT:

    “TONY JONES: Why, then, are the sceptics so passionate about the arguments they’re putting forward, and they are putting them forward with incredible passion. Richard Lindzen, who we just mentioned, for example, compares global warming to eugenics as an abuse of science.

    ROSS GELBSPAN: Well, Mr Lindzen does, but Mr Lindzen is really sort of out there on a limb. I don’t know very many supporters of Mr Lindzen who are not in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. Dr Lindzen himself, his research is publicly funded, but Dr Lindzen makes, as he told me, $2,500 a day consulting with fossil fuel interests, and that includes his consulting with OPEC, his consulting with the Australian coal industry, his consulting with the US coal industry and so forth. That’s not to say Dr Lindzen doesn’t believe what he says, but it is to say that he stands in very sharp distinction to really just about virtually all of the climate scientists around the world. ”

    For 2,500 $ a day most people would tell you they were in one who shot kennedy…

    http://dieoff.org/page82.htm

    from HARPER’S MAGAZINE/December, 1995

    “Last May, Minnesota held hearings in St. Paul to determine the environmental cost of coal burning by state power plants. Three of the skeptics—Lindzen, Michaels, and Balling—were hired as expert witnesses to testify on behalf of Western Fuels Association, a $400 million consortium of coal suppliers and coal-fired utilities..Lindzen, for his part, charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels, and a speech he wrote, entitled “Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,” was underwritten by OPEC. “


  124. matt says:

    #6 – “How can we get rid of these nuts?”

    FULL METAL JACKET 7.62 mm M-14 sniper rifle, one by one.


  125. Think Progress » Evidence Emerging Of Cheney-Led Smear Campaign Against Pelosi Over Syria Trip says:

    [...] growing this past week. Middle East analysts have suggested Bush deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams — a close ally of Dick Cheney — may have been coordinating the attempts to undermine [...]


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