Gregory Repeats Claim That Pelosi Was ‘Sloppy,’ Gave Incorrect Message To The Syrians
Gregory Repeats Claim That Pelosi Was ‘Sloppy,’ Gave Incorrect Message To The Syrians
Yesterday on Meet the Press, NBC White House reporter David Gregory presented what he claimed were the “facts” of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) delegation to Syria.
“On the facts here,” Gregory began, it “appears” that Pelosi’s meeting with the Syrians “was at least a little bit sloppy, critics will say, that the way she represented the Israeli point of view was not entirely complete, that she should have said, ‘Yes, they want peace talks, but you have to really crack down on Hamas and Hezbollah.’”
Gregory tempered his “facts” (i.e., the right-wing spin) by at least acknowledging that “Pelosi maintains she said those very things.” But his message had already made its mark. Moments later, NBC’s Chuck Todd said, “It was sloppy, as David said.”
Notwithstanding Gregory’s “he-said-she-said” treatment of the issue, the facts are clear. No one with knowledge of Pelosi’s meeting with Syrian officials — Pelosi, the members of her bipartisan delegation, and the State Department — has suggested that Pelosi communicated an incorrect message to the Syrians. That claim is a fabrication of conservatives, still being given life by members of the media like David Gregory.
Transcript:
GREGORY: On the facts here, it appears that it was at least a bit sloppy, critics will say, that the way she represented the Israeli point of view was not entirely complete, that she should have said, “Yes, they want peace talks, but you have to really crack down on Hamas and Hezbollah.” Pelosi maintains she said those very things, and she said them on camera during that same press conference that you played a portion of. The issue was, this was asserting herself in a bit of shuttle diplomacy during a trip when the White House already said, “You shouldn’t be on it.” You saw Dick Cheney come out and say, “This is the danger, Republicans, Nancy Pelosi running foreign policy.” In effect, it’s a way for conservatives, for Republicans to unite a little bit.
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ooooh how awkward. Jeezus man where does one get the frickin real story in this country?
April 9th, 2007 at 10:53 amHas David Gregory slipped into lazy hackery?
Wanker.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:54 amIranian nuclear production has reached industrial levels
April 9th, 2007 at 10:55 amThis seems an odd track for Gregory to be taking. I wonder what’s behind that.
The key issue, though, it seems to me is that much of the media appears to be merely kibitzing about this story — it is all “he-said/she-said” as far as I can see and it seems to be fueled primarily by Omert’s denials.
As a practical matter, Omert likely got “outed” because of all the right-wing pissing and moaning in the U.S. about Pelosi’s trip. I suspect that she quite accurately passed his message on to Syria but, that now it has gotten out in the press, he had no alternative to deny it or he would have had all kinds of political problems in Israel.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:57 amread the wiki bio…doesn’t seem overly partisan, but maybe he’s fighting back the perception that he is too “Liberal” by shooting his mouth off here.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:58 amGregory knows, he was there. He captured the entire meeting with Pelosi and Syrian officials on his digi camera and then posted it to youtube.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:58 amAll those NBC talking heads -excluding KO- have mastered throwing their Neocon guests a bone.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:59 amhahahaha — gregory accusing anyone else of being sloppy. that’s rich. gregory gets punked daily by the white house, and he grins and dances with those who humiliate him.
when are one of those msnbc media ’stars’ gonna ask kate obeirne about her husband’s key role in setting the stage for the iraq clusterfuck. obeirne is a regular guest on hardball; and a frequent guest on meet the press — and yet, neither of those leading lights of general electric’s chattermonkeys has ever broached that subject.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:04 amAnother thought:
When it comes to sloppy, no one can top GDumbya. His whole presiduncy has been sloppy — from the Iraq occupation to the Katrina response to the Attorney General and on and on and on.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:05 amFollow the money! Why does anyone think there’s a liberal media bias when real liberal news has such trouble making a profit. Follow the money! The media is owned by large multi-national corporations and they vote Republican.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:05 amDid Pelosi break ANY laws? Find out:
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/04/did-speaker-pelosi-break-any-law-by.html#links
April 9th, 2007 at 11:06 amDavid Gregory has turned into quite the little backup dancer to this administration. He sure did shake his little money maker dancing behind Rapper Rove, remember that?
April 9th, 2007 at 11:07 amA few invitations to sit at the big table and he’s whipped into shape. Aw, David. We all knew you were a sell out but damn, you were bought cheap sweetie.
They’ve got to keep repeating the lie in order to get people to fall for the lie.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:08 amyou can’t be part of Karl Rove’s backup band and not report what he wants you to.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:11 amThe neocons are losing this as well. A large % of the American people are in favor of what NP did alongwith the party that went with her. As usual it’s BS and I find Russert and Co. to part of that BS. David Gregory is no different. The Neocons pay their salary. Money is more powerful than the truth in their eyes.
She correctly relayed the message, and they know it. The Neocons hate the fact that diplomacy can work which would kill their thirst for more death and destruction. The neocons will lose money and profit, and as God fearing peoples, we can’t have that.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:16 amWell David, the Republicans said it, so it must be true.
Right, David?
April 9th, 2007 at 11:23 amGregory is a pretty-boy hack and a great disappointment. Watch Gregory over time, he is one of the worst because he has falsely gained the reputation as a tough reporter when every once in a while he challenges Bush on some half-ass point. But in reality, he is one of the worst sycophants who merrily dances along with Rove and Bush. Gregory usually follows along with the neo-con talking points, like the Pelosi trip, and he rarely recognizes or calls attention to all of the great lies and hypocrisy of the Bush Administration.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:23 amyou may have noticed that he appears as though forced to, on a couple of the NBC shows. hasn’t anyone noticed that this fellow wants a job on morning tv? he likes to embellish that which isn’t there to make his reporting “interesting” Keith seems to be forced to have him on once in a while, like old pat buchanan must appear a few times a week with the scar to fulfill a contract.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:33 amwith all this fellow’s qualifications, he is likely to show up on pox before long. he will go the way of Throaty McHusky if they really want to replace noron’s with newsies
Republicans can get away with the sexist treatment they are giving Pelosi beecause their base are people who don’t believe women should have equal rights anyway.
It’s so easy for people to believe that a woman oversteps her power because so many don’t believe she should have power anyway. She did nothing that hasn’t been done before by other Speaker and nobody said boo.
It’s time women and progressives learned to stand up against people who treat us as less qualified or less able to make decisions. It’s the way the trolls treat us here, like we don’t know any better. There is no more time to play nice. Obviously these problems aren’t going to go away by themselves because people see the light. Unfortunately they are going to have to be hit over the head with the facts before they “get it.”
April 9th, 2007 at 11:37 amOh, noes! The Replubicans and the media are saying that Pelosi screwed up, and that it will hurt the Democrats!
Stop defying the President, Nancy! You have to move back towards his foreign policy position, because everyone knows that the public trusts the Republicans more on those issues.
Seriously, Congressman, don’t you realize that undermining Bush’s efforts in the Middle East is going do doom your party in the 2006 midterm elections?
April 9th, 2007 at 11:38 amI wonder what DC parties David went to Saturday night….Hack me up before you go go..David is a conservative solo..
April 9th, 2007 at 11:40 amWow, you know when a LIBERAL reporter gives it to Nancy Pelosi, she must’ve REALLY screwed up!
April 9th, 2007 at 11:40 amThe liars never mention the Republican who went along with Nancy Pelosi.
The liars never mention the Second group of Republicans that went on their own as well.
The liars want our own american idiots to beleive that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi broke some law or sent the wrong message.
The liars never get tired of lying.
Arlen Specter has been to Syria 15 times. Was he sloppy or sending the wrong message?
IOKIYAR right. Syria supported the US after 911 and has been torturing OUR prisoners for George Bush ever since.
Someone from the White House made that agreement and THAT is a WAR CRIME as well as a national disgrace.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:41 amInteresting..David said that “Here critics would say she was sloppy”, what the hell does he say, he was there right??
April 9th, 2007 at 11:42 am#12 Democratic Soldier…you’re right and the sad part of your message is, they will fall for it because thier to lazy to get off their asses and hunt for truth.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:45 amWasn’t this the guy doing ‘the bump’ with Rove?
April 9th, 2007 at 12:07 pmFinally some one willing to say it as it is. Left wing bias is destroying this country. Nancy Pelosi usually gets a pass, but not this time. Big Blunder on her part.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:11 pmThat guy has spun so much crap you can’t take him seriously. He used to ask the most ridiculous questions at press conferences, sounding as high and mighty as possible. Even if he came out saying Pelosi did all the right things, I still wouldnt buy a word
April 9th, 2007 at 12:14 pmWhen we compare Pelosi’s actions to the cheney/rove/bush actions of the past six+ years, who has had the most negative impact on the middle east and on American lives? The rovian tactic is clear, regardless of the outcome and impact of any opponent’s actions, it is blasted as bad, evil and hurtful to the cause of keeping Americans safe. Americans are tired of this one trick act, but since cheney/rove/bush have not succeeded in any aspect of their mis-administration, all they can do is throw dirt on everyone else.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:17 pmMURDERER Bush is a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA…
Finally some one willing to say it as it is.
Left wing bias is destroying this country. Examples are LIARS and HATEMONGERS like Rush, Coulter and Malkin.
TRAITOR Bush USUALLY gets a pass, but NO MORE!!!!!
Libby convicted.
Gonzo NEXT.
Goodling, the “christian”, takes the 5th!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
April 9th, 2007 at 12:27 pmIts funny to play devil’s advocate.(McCains sense of “fun”).What is your reward, how much do they pay you, TRAITOR?
April 9th, 2007 at 12:37 pm#26
You’re a bit off on your assesment. The one destroying this country in Bush and Bush alone. Funny how all you right wing hacks just don’t want to talk about the Republicans who were on the trip and have said Pelosi did no wrong. And as far as Gregory, he’s going further and further up this administrations butt with each passing day.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:38 pmDavid is earning his second pay check. It’s his job to attack Dems as is Matt Lauer. NBC showed that they do the spin and lies for the White House. Once trusted reporters are in it for the extra money. Katie Couric is now busted as we know she has been paid for years. Now Bush is paying the reporters that once were honest and that the public trusted. As the lies and crimes came out Bush/Cheney looked around and say to the honest reporters what’s your price to lie. Matt and David gave their price and now their on the Bush pay roll. Once the troops money bill is passed all the pay outs will get their money as will Halliburton for the oil drills. As for the troops well they will get nothing as usual. US media is controlled by the White House. For honest news go to the web sites or foreign press for the non bias honest news. By the time the US media tells the truth it’s old news. Look at Walter Reed that problem was known for 5 years then one honest reporter spoke up. How many times did the US media and reporters go to Walter Reed without saying a word about the conditions.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:44 pmCan Nancy sue for libel?
April 9th, 2007 at 12:47 pmIt was like, you know, sloppy. It woulda been OK if it hadn’t been done so…sloppily.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:48 pmC’mon guys…everyone knows that David Gregory is nothing more than a Rovian stooge for the radical-right-wing-neocon-fascists.
Dick Gregory, along with the other fascist “news” reporter Matt Lauer, were personally selected by Karl Rove and Dick Cheney at a nude party at Bohemian Grove in California way back in 1989.
Everyone who’s not a brain-washed sheeple knows this indisputable truth.
In fact it was Gregory, under Dick Cheney’s instructions, who planted the explosives in World Trade Center Seven.
Duh….Get with it people.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:49 pmSo, right-wingers:
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 commission about 9/11, the Bin Ladens, and their Saudi TERRORIST financiers??
Bring it on, Bushies!!!!
NOTHING else is as important as that.
Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH tells you they were PART of 9/11.
May they BURN IN HELL for their LIES and MURDER.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:56 pmBush and Cheney REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH tells you they were PART of 9/11.
May they BURN IN HELL for their LIES and MURDER.
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
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Right on man!
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!
April 9th, 2007 at 1:00 pmComment by Ringo — April 9, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Duh – maybe if somebody planted an explosive under your ass it would kick start your brain and take your mouth out of gear.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:03 pmOh, God!
Is David Gregory becoming the John McCain of journalism?
See, this is why Keith Olbermann is the only journalist, that’s remained constant in terms of objectivity.
David, let’s see you try to talk to Madame Speaker now. She’ll give you the brush off as best, just as Obama is doing with Fox Noise.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:06 pmSee, this is why Keith Olbermann is the only journalist, that’s remained constant in terms of objectivity.
By objective you must mean-says what you are thinking. I am astonished that people bash Fox News for being biased and then praise Olbermann on his objectivity. They are both biased! Just one of them fit your political point of view so you think that one must be the objective one.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:17 pmWhy are they going after Pelois as there was a group of REPUBLICANS that went OVER before Pelois and after Pelois? He never said anything about the REPUBLICANS WHY?
What a jerk.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:18 pmOh, David, I used to think you had SOME shred of journalistic integrity,
April 9th, 2007 at 1:27 pmnow… I just don’t know anymore
Comment by shan
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How much is Karl Rove paying you to post your reich-wing-neocon-rePUKElican propaganda here?
You make me sick you fascist, rascist, homophobe!
April 9th, 2007 at 1:32 pmRabidbunny,Fox noise does manipulate the facts to fit their reality.They consciously disguise truth in their familiar costume.
In the end what the public watches is the costume, not the truth.
You can write a special comment that respects 90% of the truth or you can write one using only 10% truth and adding a rest of bullsh*t.
That’s the difference between Keith and Bill’O.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:34 pmComment by rabidbunny — April 9, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Do you not see the difference between a one hour news program and a 24 hour news channel with only one point of view. No I guessed you wouldn’t. Olbermann/Scarborough = offset.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:39 pmComment by Ringo — April 9, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
How could I have known and why would I care that you’re a homosexual?
April 9th, 2007 at 1:41 pmRabidbunny,Fox noise does manipulate the facts to fit their reality.They consciously disguise truth in their familiar costume.
In the end what the public watches is the costume, not the truth.
You can write a special comment that respects 90% of the truth or you can write one using only 10% truth and adding a rest of bullsh*t.
That’s the difference between Keith and Bill’O.
I agree that Fox News distorts the truth. However, Keith Olbermann is guilty of the exact same thing. He does not give the “whole” story just like ORielly doesn’t. The difference is their political compass. Keith is on the left, so left leaning viewers will consider him a more objective source and ORielly is on the right, so right leaning viewers will consider him a more objective source. They are both biased and to say that one is objective and the other isn’t truly shows that the person saying it doesn’t really want objective news.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:41 pmComment by rabidbunny — April 9, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Do you not see the difference between a one hour news program and a 24 hour news channel with only one point of view. No I guessed you wouldn’t. Olbermann/Scarborough = offset.
I did not say that MSNBC was biased, I said that Olbermann was. The person I responded to said that Olbermann was the only objective journalist out there.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:43 pmIn fact it was Gregory, under Dick Cheney’s instructions, who planted the explosives in World Trade Center Seven.
Comment by Ringo — April 9, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Isn’t it dangerous for you to expose these facts to the general public. Didn’t you have to sign some kind of covenant that you wouldn’t reveal this top secret, insider information you’re privvy to.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:44 pmComment by rabidbunny — April 9, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Olbermann leans to the left and O’Reilly is a bald-faced liar. Buy you see that as the same thing.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI don’t think you are equipped to discuss objective news.
Such bias is the result of bipolar politics.That is unavoidable.If you had more political parties than just 2, the media wouldnt be so extremely biased.But between both options, Olbermann’s is less dangerous and represents the voice of the anti-war public.And i consider billo to be a public threat who suffers schizophrenia.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:48 pmOne week he is giving Tony Snow a hard time (justified) and another week he is wrongly accusing Pelosi of being sloppy.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:49 pmIs this what journalists do to show they are “fair and balanced?”
They simply pick a time and a topic, and throw something out there to show they don’t play favorites.
It’s sloppy, all right, sloppy journalism.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 9, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Olbermann leans to the left and O’Reilly is a bald-faced liar. Buy you see that as the same thing.
I don’t think you are equipped to discuss objective news.
You only see OReilly’s flaws because you agree with Olbermann, maybe when you get some objectivity you will notice the lack of it in talking heads that you agree with.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:50 pmI did not say that MSNBC was biased, I said that Olbermann was. The person I responded to said that Olbermann was the only objective journalist out there.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 9, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
This is what you posted in response:
“By objective you must mean-says what you are thinking. I am astonished that people bash Fox News for being biased and then praise Olbermann on his objectivity.”
Thereby comparing Olbermann to Fox News. That was you. That’s the way trolls set up their waste of time arguments, isn’t it.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:50 pmLook Gregory has been repeating the WH lies big time.He occasionally will call their BS but he supports the WH bigtime.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:51 pmRemember he was the one dancing with Rove folks.Can you expect anything critical from those who rubup against Rove & Co.
Olbermann’s is less dangerous and represents the voice of the anti-war public
Says exactly what my point is. People are going to gravitate toward news sources that taylor to their own beliefs, without any real desire for objectivity.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:52 pmSo, this seems to me to be the ultimate in armchair quarterbacking on the part of the author of this article. If you actually WATCHED the program, he is incontrovertibly correct in stating that Pelosi was “sloppy” in her conveying the message. She WAS, because she spoke in such a way that her words could be easily misconstrued. She’s not wrong, and he didn’t say that. She WAS very sloppy in her public discussion of it. The proof is in the pudding: we are talking about it today, when cleaner wording could have easily prevented that.
This site is dangerously close to losing my support. Every sane person hates soundbites, and ThinkProgress has been nitpicking phrases in a similar way, without appreciating the entire conversation. You can’t just blindly attack journalists when they make nuanced, unflattering comments about the Democrats. That’s what Republicans do. You’re proving Bill O’Reilly’s comments to be somewhat accurate when you do this.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:56 pmThereby comparing Olbermann to Fox News. That was you. That’s the way trolls set up their waste of time arguments, isn’t it.
My point which you failed to realize, was that the poster I was responding to is not looking for objective news or he/she would not have brought up Olbermann as objective right after stating Fox News is biased. Yes I am comparing Olbermann to Fox News in that they are both biased and twist facts. If Olbermann actually received any viewers MSNBC certainly would have more shows that taylor to the left. It’s all about $$$$.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:56 pmRabid Bunny
KO is attractive to so many progressives/liberals because he is the ONLY one on the air who tends to lean left. We who share his tendencies are gathering to Countdown because that is the only show that we aren’t cursing, and feeling compelled to throw the remote.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:57 pmEveryone else is right leaning, talking point memorizer, satisfying his multimedia owners.
You cannot name one other left-leaning TV anchor — they are all right leaning.
I thought David Gregory was a WH press guy who had regained a sense of integrity — then I saw him on stage with Rove, and I saw him on MTP and I believe he was either told to get back in line, or maybe he never regained that sense of integrity after all.
April 9th, 2007 at 1:59 pmbtw, take this convo about olbermann vs. oreilly somewhere else. It’s totally off topic and retarded.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:00 pmhttp://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=174549
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3497308896275775092&hl=en Documentary
on US foreign policy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo Banned by the Mormons.
Ex-Zionist Benjamin Freedman speaks at the Willard Hotel, Washington D.C., in
1961
http://www.erichufschmid.net/BenjaminFreedmansSpeech16.mp3
The truth about the European Union.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=62612529763293088&q=The+real+EU&hl=en
April 9th, 2007 at 2:01 pmHello, knock, knock, the Prime Minester of Israel said that Pelosi didn’t deliver the message he asked her to deliver, but another one. who should I believe? the person that drew up the message and gave it to her, or Pelosi? hmmmm…..of course Israel’s PM.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:02 pmKO is attractive to so many progressives/liberals because he is the ONLY one on the air who tends to lean left. We who share his tendencies are gathering to Countdown because that is the only show that we aren’t cursing, and feeling compelled to throw the remote.
Everyone else is right leaning, talking point memorizer, satisfying his multimedia owners.
You cannot name one other left-leaning TV anchor — they are all right leaning.
Comment by Marie — April 9, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
I agree that he is the only blatant left leaning host.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:05 pmwhat has happened to my links tp. cherry picking???
April 9th, 2007 at 2:05 pmYou only see OReilly’s flaws because you agree with Olbermann, maybe when you get some objectivity you will notice the lack of it in talking heads that you agree with.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 9, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
I have only watched Olbermann a couple of times but have seen O’Reilly in action many. This thread is about Gregory though, not that that matters to you. And Gregory was attacking Pelosi without attacking the Republicans who also went to Syria. Basically I think they all did a good job and that we can’t count on the Administration to hangle diplomacy.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:06 pmMarie:
What the hell are you talking about? Y’know it’s a relatively new thing to wave your political affiliation around the way Olbermann does, and I think kind of dangerous to play the noise machine game with Republicans. I’m a liberal, and im not trying to further inspire this conversation, but that’s the most retarded thing i have ever heard. Here’s a list that says otherwise:
Jon Stewart
Stephen Colbert
ANY late night TV host
Lou Dobbs (though his racist attitude toward latinos is completely offensive)
Wolf Blitzer
Paula Zahn
ANYONE on PBS
Anderson Cooper
Just because they aren’t picking a new right winger to call the worst person in the world every night doesn’t mean they’re not a liberal voice.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:06 pmbtw, take this convo about olbermann vs. oreilly somewhere else. It’s totally off topic and retarded.
I disagree that it is off topic. This thread is about the political bias in the meida. With quotes like this in the original blog Gregory tempered his “facts†(i.e., the right-wing spin) how can anybody not think of the the leading left wing host and the leading right wing host?
April 9th, 2007 at 2:07 pmDavid used to question Scotty McLiar. I thought for once we have a reporter not just standing up the bush crime family but a journalist.
Sadly, I was wrong.
David is another MSM whore sellout.
No wonder the MSM is losing viewers each day. This “sloppy” journalism is what is going to kill the MSM!
April 9th, 2007 at 2:14 pmwow, they are up. sorry for the double posts but tp……..i leave it there im sure everyone gets it. unbelievable. this is my 4th time over 2 days tp.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:15 pmso it’s a game. now you see it now you don’t. wtf?
April 9th, 2007 at 2:17 pmAgain, nobody in the “mainstream” media had any problems when Newt Gingridge went to Israel and blatantly underminded the peace process Clinton had initiated between Israel and the Palestinians. Gingridge met personally with conservatives in Israel and then made a public statement which was at odds with the Clinton initiative. There were few more important issues than peace in the middle east. Gingridge undermined foreign policy in that regard. The media said little or nothing about it.
It’s the double-standards that make me angry.
And, you can’t compare an entire network set up expicitly to advance the republican agenda to one opinion maker on one show of another network. It’s just not a valid comparison.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:20 pmComment by Ringo — April 9, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Duh – maybe if somebody planted an explosive under your ass it would kick start your brain and take your mouth out of gear.
Comment by shane — April 9, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
Are YOU making THREATS, Nazi??
Or are you just expecting another 9/11 from the Bushies??
NOW, ANSWER THE QUESTION:
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO SWEAT TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH about 9/11, the Bin Ladens and the Saudi TERRORIST financiers?
God Bless America, the Democrats, the SUBPOENAS, and the WORLD!
April 9th, 2007 at 2:22 pmMike: “ANYONE on PBS”
Does that include Mara Leeson, one of the “Fox All-stars,” or Gwen Ifill, long-time personal friend of Condi Rice?
“Any late-night talkshow host”
Does that include war-supporter and big Swartznegger booster, Jay Leno?
“Lou dobbs”
Lou Dobbs is a republican who strongly supported Bush in the last two elections, his current complaints notwithstanding.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:24 pm@ blue dog
Distortion. I’m simply trying to illustrate that there is certainly more presence in media than Marie is pining about. I’m happy to have it. It seems natural, as Republicans generally appeal to rednecks and bible humpers. the PBS statement was hyperbolic -those are 2 names, and you know Gwen Ifill is a liberal, as with the late night talk show hosts. He’s a Swatznegger booster in the same way Jon Stewart is a McCain booster, so don’t play that card. I thought Lou Dobbs was a Democrat, albeit a shitty one.
People can still be democrats without 100% towing the line.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:37 pmOT Imagine if Bill Clinton was found to be funding the terrorists who, we are told, were responsible for knocking down the World Trade Centers and killing 3000 Americans?
Can you possibly imagine the reaction, and justifiably so, from the corporate media. It would be 24/7 coverage with breaking news breaking into the breaking news. They’d be running pieces calling for his immediate impeachment and possibly stoning to death, and justifiably so.
The newspapers would have 5 inch headline stories calling Clinton the worst president and person in the history of the country, and justifiably so. There’d be entire pull-out sections in the newspaper and every column inch would contain explosive adjectives describing Clinton as despicable and villianous.
Every radio station in the country would interrupt programming and go CNN live. Maybe even the FM music stations. Schools would be instructed to hold special classes so teachers would have time to hold discussions with students to talk about this very very dark day in history.
And all of it would be justified.
Amazingly, this did happen last month, but the President was George W. Bush, not Bill Clinton.
Sy Hersh provided a bombshell story, an 11 on a scale of 10.
In case you missed it…that Bush is “pumping money, a great deal of money, without congressional authority, without any congressional oversight” into “three Sunni jihadist groups connected to al Qaeda.”
In case you missed the point I’ll repeat…President Bush is funding Al Qaeda!!!!
And the media is silent. Dead silent. Bought off, paid for, scared, corrupt media, SILENT MEDIA.
(Add this story to the scrapheap of stories ignored by the Corporate Media…Downing St. Memos, End of Habeas Corpus, Freedom of Information Act slashed, Military Bases in Iraq, 9 Trillion National Debt, Bankers writing Bankruptcy Bill, Depleted Uranium from munitions in Iraq, Sibel Edmunds, Unregulated Hedge Funds, Bush Signing Statements etc…)
April 9th, 2007 at 2:39 pmThe Media has a way of ignoring Seymour Hersh’s stories. I think he tends to draw some pretty far out conclusions, but who knows — they could be entirely true.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:47 pmGregory used to be good.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:52 pmAnd, you can’t compare an entire network set up expicitly to advance the republican agenda to one opinion maker on one show of another network. It’s just not a valid comparison.
And somebody cannot complain about Fox News being biased while in the same breath champion Olbermann for being objective. It is a valid comparison, the fact that it is just one show compared to one network is irrelevent. They are both biased-granted Fox News is on a much larger scale, but that was not my point. My point again was that if somebody wants unbiased news they should not watch either Fox News or Olbermann.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pmNancy did not take long to prove just why libs cannot be in charge of anything
April 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pmOlbermann is the biggest phony in the bizz
April 9th, 2007 at 3:02 pmelections have consequenses. this last one is gonna hurt
April 9th, 2007 at 3:04 pmOlbermann is OBJECTIVE, and tells the TRUTH.
Bush is a TRAITOR coxucker PUNK, and a MURDERER and a LIAR to the USA and the WORLD.
Elections that provide Congressional oversight of TRAITORS like Bush DO have consequences:
GOOD for America.
Bad for PNAC/Neocon/Nazis like “ct”.
BURN IN HELL, MURDERER Bush, you TRAITOR coxucker PUNK!!
April 9th, 2007 at 3:33 pmMike, Go take a hike.
April 9th, 2007 at 3:33 pmLegitimate news sources are all right leaning and those you named, like Dobbs, are proclaimed conservatives. Blitzer would choke if he didn’t support Bush&Co. Cooper, Zahn, all network anchors, are all right-leaning. You are way off the wall on this one.
Stewart and Colbert are comedians!! You twit.
You know the thing that gets me here:
The rightwhinge keeps on saying that Pelosi stuffed up – but not actually expressing how or why her trip to Syria was a stuff-up. Indeed, actually trying to find more substance to their allegations then just the outright stupid assertion that the trip to Syria was somehow a mistake, is quite difficult to achieve.
There has been no coverage of what Pelosi actually said, there has been no coverage of any possible deals done, all there has been is the rightwhinge (Dubbed thus because frankly, whinging is all they are good at) repeating a statement with no logical backing.
So, here it is righties: Either put up or shut up. Show the negative consequences of Pelosi going to Syria. Until you do, recognise that while we have heard your repeated whine, we frankly could not care less about the fact that you aren’t happy about it, especially given your previous track records at messing everything you have touched up.
April 9th, 2007 at 3:42 pmMy point again was that if somebody wants unbiased news they should not watch either Fox News or Olbermann.
Comment by rabidbunny
Knock yourself out, rancid rabbit. This is still America, and you have the right to be wrong.
April 9th, 2007 at 4:07 pmtypical
April 9th, 2007 at 4:15 pmKnock yourself out, rancid rabbit. This is still America, and you have the right to be wrong.
More insults without any substance from you, shocking.
April 9th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThis guy is NOT any kind of objective progressive. Didn’t you see him dancing in the background of Karl Rove’s Rap joke?
April 9th, 2007 at 5:05 pmHe’s just like Tim Russert, an inside-the-Beltway guy who hangs out with Bush and company and thinks the entire political process is some sort of sporting event they can narrate without any moral considerations whatsoever.
There isn’t one of these bastards who would risk their comfortable positions by asking the tough questions and demanding answers.
nancy should resign. although the libs have no-one any better. still…out of respect for the country she should step aside
April 9th, 2007 at 5:24 pmobjective progressive
I think that is what you would call an oxymoron.
April 9th, 2007 at 5:27 pm#91
If you think Pelosi should resign,
TRAITORS Bush and Cheney should COMMIT SUICIDE for the GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.
And HUMANITY.
April 9th, 2007 at 6:12 pmAND HERE I THOUGHT David Gregory WAS ON THE SIDE OF MOST AMERICANS—OOPS, I WAS WRONG—-THAT Gregory, HE IS ONE SNEAKY BASTARD!!!!! WHEN HE BADGERED Scott McClellan and Tony Snow INTO ANSWERING QUESTIONS, I THOUGHT HE WAS ON OUR SIDE, BUT FROM THE TIME WHEN HE DECLARED A TRUCE WITH CANCER-BOY Snow AND APPEARED ON THAT PANEL WITH Snow AND Richard Wolffe AND ALL OF THEM CRITICIZED US E-WARRIORS OF THE BLOGOSPHERE FOR SPEAKING OUR MINDS ABOUT CHIMPya and Bushland Uber Allies AND CRITICIZING THE MSM FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOBS IN GRILLING THE white house, Snow and Bushland Uber Alies/CHIMPya, I KNEW David WAS A BIG-SELLOUT LIKE Wolffe—David MUST ALSO EITHER HAVE BEEN GIVEN A WARNING FROM THE BIGWIGS AT NBC NOT TO GO SO HARD ON Bushland Uber Allies OR RISK LOSING HIS JOB, OR HIS HEIGHT—SIX FEET FOUR OR SIX, MUST MAKE THE AIR AROUND HIS HEAD THIN AND CUT OFF OXYGEN TO HIS ALREADY COMMON-SENSE STARVED NOGGIN, THUS MAKING HIM SAY THOSE SWIFT-BOAT-SHIT-SMEARS AGAINST SPEAKER PELOSI, i.e., THE white house and repugnant-repub Karl FAT-F*CK Rovian PLAYBOOK OF UNDERHANDED BESMIRCHING POLITICS!!!!! NICHT WAHR, David, YA TALL GALOOT???????
April 9th, 2007 at 6:17 pmStretch should become press secretary instead of just head suck up
April 9th, 2007 at 6:31 pmi love how nancy pisses off the gop geezers. psst, david gregory, little tip for ya: rove likes a nice bubble bath after hip-hoppin’ the night away….can you take care of that for him? i knew you could.
April 9th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI heard a theory today — do you think Gregory was “threatened” with privilege suspension from the White House (because of his tough dealing with Snow’s defense) and that is why he was cavorting with Rove and now taking up the rightwing take on the Pelosi trip?
Also — check out crooks and liars, as well as Josh Marshall at TPM — C&L has a video of Halbrook lambasting the press and the White House on Hardball with subs. host David Gregory, who ffered one counterpoint and then backed down. TPM has a video of Marshall himself showing an Israeli newspaper with the news of the message it was giving Pelosi to bring to Assad BEFORE she even left on the trip.
April 9th, 2007 at 10:47 pmThis is appearing to be a deliberate set-up by the Bushies.
Now if the MSM would do their job and investigate these things instead of simply reporting the White House talking points……..
I had my suspicions about Gregory, and they were borne out when he made that fawning comment about the politico.com “reporter” at the Bush press conference (when Bush made believe he didn’t know the guy and gave him a free commercial). Only a partisan would ever say anything complimentary about that guy’s work.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:19 amNo one with knowledge of Pelosi’s meeting with Syrian officials — Pelosi, the members of her bipartisan delegation, and the State Department — has suggested that Pelosi communicated an incorrect message to the Syrians.
No one except the Israelis.
April 10th, 2007 at 7:31 amThey being the source of the message and whos interests are effected by its delivery.
So you could say “No one except the one party that matters”.
Odd… I remember David Gregory once had balls. I wonder at what point he was castrated?
April 10th, 2007 at 11:11 amI think this article sums up the “controversy” pretty well. Everyone on the trip with Pelosi, republican as well as democrat, Jewish as well as other, says she conveyed the message accurately.
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“Odd… I remember David Gregory once had balls. I wonder at what point he was castrated?” Comment by Loonie
He loaned them to the speakette – she heard a set would be helpful in her discussions with the Islamic chauvinists
April 10th, 2007 at 7:44 pm