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	<title>Comments on: White House Cites &#8216;Experience From September 11th&#8217; To Justify Staying In Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-4363112</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Janice&lt;/strong&gt;

I could not believe the amount of quality material on this site.  The site is extremely eyecatching and pulls the reader straight it, the articles are great quality and are very professionally written. I have seen too many of these sites where it looks...</description>
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<p>I could not believe the amount of quality material on this site.  The site is extremely eyecatching and pulls the reader straight it, the articles are great quality and are very professionally written. I have seen too many of these sites where it looks&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4363112', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: USA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3689263</link>
		<dc:creator>USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry about that.  :(  :)  Forgive me?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about that.  :(  :)  Forgive me?  ;)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3689263', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: USA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3689231</link>
		<dc:creator>USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>76. â€œEven Sen. Clinton recognizes this. Hence, her statements that as president she would keep some troops in Iraq to battle Al Qaeda.

Comment by Exley â€” April 10, 2007â€³

&lt;strong&gt;Exley, theyâ€™re liberals, of course they donâ€™t understand.

Comment by michael &lt;/strong&gt;â€” April 10, 2007 @ 4:50 pm


I know bigots don&#039;t understand.  Liberals, blacks, what&#039;s the difference michael??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>76. â€œEven Sen. Clinton recognizes this. Hence, her statements that as president she would keep some troops in Iraq to battle Al Qaeda.</p>
<p>Comment by Exley â€” April 10, 2007â€³</p>
<p><strong>Exley, theyâ€™re liberals, of course they donâ€™t understand.</p>
<p>Comment by michael </strong>â€” April 10, 2007 @ 4:50 pm</p>
<p>I know bigots don&#8217;t understand.  Liberals, blacks, what&#8217;s the difference michael??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3689231', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: USA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3689210</link>
		<dc:creator>USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œOppose learning? It is you liberals who donâ€™t learn. We pour billions into our failed public schools and you want to spend more! We have poured billions into our failed welfare system and you want to spend more! We try to teach our children morality, you kill 35 million unborn babies! We got attacked on 9/11. We chase and fight our enemies over there and you want to cut and run. Iâ€™d say that there is much learning needed, the question is by whom?

Comment by michael â€” April 10, 2007 @ 6:19 pmâ€


&lt;strong&gt;Answer: You.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œOppose learning? It is you liberals who donâ€™t learn. We pour billions into our failed public schools and you want to spend more! We have poured billions into our failed welfare system and you want to spend more! We try to teach our children morality, you kill 35 million unborn babies! We got attacked on 9/11. We chase and fight our enemies over there and you want to cut and run. Iâ€™d say that there is much learning needed, the question is by whom?</p>
<p>Comment by michael â€” April 10, 2007 @ 6:19 pmâ€</p>
<p><strong>Answer: You.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3689210', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: USA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3689115</link>
		<dc:creator>USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>237. Helen: were you asking a question or making a political statement?

you liberal schill.

Comment by greg fioritto


&lt;strong&gt;No it&#039;s the fight against the brain-dead, like you greg.&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s a disagreement about reality.  And if there is a disagreement about reality, then the person who is wrong is insane, that&#039;s you greg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>237. Helen: were you asking a question or making a political statement?</p>
<p>you liberal schill.</p>
<p>Comment by greg fioritto</p>
<p><strong>No it&#8217;s the fight against the brain-dead, like you greg.</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a disagreement about reality.  And if there is a disagreement about reality, then the person who is wrong is insane, that&#8217;s you greg.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3689115', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: USA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3689062</link>
		<dc:creator>USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so tired of the infantile, brain dead, non-thinking types in the Bush Adminstration, like this Dana...sold her soul. Sold her soul.  Really it&#039;s like trying to argue with a child.  Child isn&#039;t the right word because children aren&#039;t so flipant to any words that don&#039;t come from the Bush Adminstration.  This infecting madness needs to stop.  But it might as well just rot away like the rotting corpses these people are.  That&#039;s you, Dana.
Metal illness in it&#039;s worst abomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so tired of the infantile, brain dead, non-thinking types in the Bush Adminstration, like this Dana&#8230;sold her soul. Sold her soul.  Really it&#8217;s like trying to argue with a child.  Child isn&#8217;t the right word because children aren&#8217;t so flipant to any words that don&#8217;t come from the Bush Adminstration.  This infecting madness needs to stop.  But it might as well just rot away like the rotting corpses these people are.  That&#8217;s you, Dana.<br />
Metal illness in it&#8217;s worst abomination.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3689062', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Temper Tantrums</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3684988</link>
		<dc:creator>Temper Tantrums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The YOUNG DITZ might want to educate her brain.  We have been SPREADING terrorists around the world as note by Oxford Report just released.

Send her over to Iraq.  We need luke warm bodies now to guard the gates of the green zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The YOUNG DITZ might want to educate her brain.  We have been SPREADING terrorists around the world as note by Oxford Report just released.</p>
<p>Send her over to Iraq.  We need luke warm bodies now to guard the gates of the green zone.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3684988', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t tell me what my point of view is, greg fioritto.  You don&#039;t know, and you are simply putting one thing with another and getting three.  Even the 9/11 Commission concluded that Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks.  As a matter of fact, I don&#039;t think we should have left the Taliban in power.  However, by diverting US military resources to Iraq, a country which--et me repeat--did not attack the US, we have allowed the Taliban and Al Qaeda to make a comeback in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
  I hope that one day you will miss Osama Bin Laden as much as you miss Saddam Hussein; unfortunately, this administration hasn&#039;t been doing much to find him over 5 1/2 years after 9/11!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t tell me what my point of view is, greg fioritto.  You don&#8217;t know, and you are simply putting one thing with another and getting three.  Even the 9/11 Commission concluded that Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks.  As a matter of fact, I don&#8217;t think we should have left the Taliban in power.  However, by diverting US military resources to Iraq, a country which&#8211;et me repeat&#8211;did not attack the US, we have allowed the Taliban and Al Qaeda to make a comeback in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.<br />
  I hope that one day you will miss Osama Bin Laden as much as you miss Saddam Hussein; unfortunately, this administration hasn&#8217;t been doing much to find him over 5 1/2 years after 9/11!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3677909', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: greg fioritto</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg fioritto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From your point of view, Lora.  The government of Afghanistan did not attack us either on 9-11, by the way.  I guess we should have left the Taliban in power too eh? 

Saddam was such a nice guy, I miss him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your point of view, Lora.  The government of Afghanistan did not attack us either on 9-11, by the way.  I guess we should have left the Taliban in power too eh? </p>
<p>Saddam was such a nice guy, I miss him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3677508', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3668011</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen: were you asking a question or making a political statement?
you liberal schill (SIC).
Comment by greg fioritto 

No, greg, Helen was pointing a verified fact.  You neoCON koolaid addict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen: were you asking a question or making a political statement?<br />
you liberal schill (SIC).<br />
Comment by greg fioritto </p>
<p>No, greg, Helen was pointing a verified fact.  You neoCON koolaid addict.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3668011', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Squidbilly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3661019</link>
		<dc:creator>Squidbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s just sticking to the Rovian tactic of telling complete lies and fantasies so much that it becomed &quot;fact&quot; by repetition.

Same shit different day!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s just sticking to the Rovian tactic of telling complete lies and fantasies so much that it becomed &#8220;fact&#8221; by repetition.</p>
<p>Same shit different day!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3661019', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: greg fioritto</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3659084</link>
		<dc:creator>greg fioritto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen: were you asking a question or making a political statement?

you liberal schill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen: were you asking a question or making a political statement?</p>
<p>you liberal schill.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3659084', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3657728</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13 Dana Perino is an embarrassment to the american public. She stammers and stutters and is sooooo obviously in over her head. She wonâ€™t last.
Comment by veritas 

But isn&#039;t just about everyone in the Bush administration in over their heads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13 Dana Perino is an embarrassment to the american public. She stammers and stutters and is sooooo obviously in over her head. She wonâ€™t last.<br />
Comment by veritas </p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t just about everyone in the Bush administration in over their heads?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3657728', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael 

America is, comparatively speaking, cheap. Of the first world countries right now, it is the one that gives least in aid to the rest of the world, only giving 0.1% of GDP. England, actually gives one heck of a lot more, at 1% of GDP.  (Anybody doesn&#039;t believe me, go look it up.)

Plus that 0.1% is actually mostly made up of loans, with agreements that those loans will be used to buy excess American goods. Thus meaning that local industries are not developed to produce those goods themselves, and that America gets paid back thrice: Once when the loan is paid off, because unlike America Africa is expected to pay its debts, once when that country buys America&#039;s goods, and once when America gains the benefit of less competition in the markets.

Yet at the same time America is the country which whines about it most.

It is also the country which is currently the biggest culprit in making that aid &quot;neccessary.&quot; Global warming is having a definite effect in sub-saharan Africa, with South Africa going through a drought, Mozambique dealing with massive flooding (Which it is handling somewhat better then America handled Katrina, BTB) and various countries citing America&#039;s actions at Gitmo as their justification of how they are behaving on human rights.

That is the reality as an African that I have seen of America&#039;s &quot;Generosity.&quot;

And yet I am pro America. Perhaps in part because I know what the economy will do if America&#039;s economy goes down, in part because America does have a positive roll to play in the world. Where America leads, the world follows, and if America leads us to peace, prosperity and goodwill, then we all benefit, if America leads us to where the Republicans are going now, towards war, poverty and hatred, then we all lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael </p>
<p>America is, comparatively speaking, cheap. Of the first world countries right now, it is the one that gives least in aid to the rest of the world, only giving 0.1% of GDP. England, actually gives one heck of a lot more, at 1% of GDP.  (Anybody doesn&#8217;t believe me, go look it up.)</p>
<p>Plus that 0.1% is actually mostly made up of loans, with agreements that those loans will be used to buy excess American goods. Thus meaning that local industries are not developed to produce those goods themselves, and that America gets paid back thrice: Once when the loan is paid off, because unlike America Africa is expected to pay its debts, once when that country buys America&#8217;s goods, and once when America gains the benefit of less competition in the markets.</p>
<p>Yet at the same time America is the country which whines about it most.</p>
<p>It is also the country which is currently the biggest culprit in making that aid &#8220;neccessary.&#8221; Global warming is having a definite effect in sub-saharan Africa, with South Africa going through a drought, Mozambique dealing with massive flooding (Which it is handling somewhat better then America handled Katrina, BTB) and various countries citing America&#8217;s actions at Gitmo as their justification of how they are behaving on human rights.</p>
<p>That is the reality as an African that I have seen of America&#8217;s &#8220;Generosity.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yet I am pro America. Perhaps in part because I know what the economy will do if America&#8217;s economy goes down, in part because America does have a positive roll to play in the world. Where America leads, the world follows, and if America leads us to peace, prosperity and goodwill, then we all benefit, if America leads us to where the Republicans are going now, towards war, poverty and hatred, then we all lose.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3649189', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;US forces torture and rape civilians, but thats another way to bring peace and stability to the Middle East. But no, US actions are always for a good cause. Always.
Now I can go to throw up.
Comment by Juan C&lt;/em&gt;

Juan, I so appreciate that you comment here.  I learn from you everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>US forces torture and rape civilians, but thats another way to bring peace and stability to the Middle East. But no, US actions are always for a good cause. Always.<br />
Now I can go to throw up.<br />
Comment by Juan C</em></p>
<p>Juan, I so appreciate that you comment here.  I learn from you everyday.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3646001', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by Juan C â€” April 10, 2007 @ 9:02 pm&lt;/em&gt;

That might just be the best post I&#039;ve ever read here...  That was brilliant Juan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Comment by Juan C â€” April 10, 2007 @ 9:02 pm</em></p>
<p>That might just be the best post I&#8217;ve ever read here&#8230;  That was brilliant Juan.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3641830', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: UCSBClassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3638367</link>
		<dc:creator>UCSBClassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by michael â€” April 10, 2007 @ 5:19 pm

Having Fox News or Rush Limbaugh give you their interpretation of the &quot;real world&quot; does not count as having based your beliefs on the real world itself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by michael â€” April 10, 2007 @ 5:19 pm</p>
<p>Having Fox News or Rush Limbaugh give you their interpretation of the &#8220;real world&#8221; does not count as having based your beliefs on the real world itself&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3638367', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3638167</link>
		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Juan C #224

&lt;strong&gt;Juan C,

...the right wingers haven&#039;t evolved to the point where...

...they can see themselves as the villain...

...in their personal Walter Mitty daydreams...&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Juan C #224</p>
<p><strong>Juan C,</p>
<p>&#8230;the right wingers haven&#8217;t evolved to the point where&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;they can see themselves as the villain&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;in their personal Walter Mitty daydreams&#8230;</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3638167', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/911-perino-iraq/comment-page-5/#comment-3637914</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Al Qaeda had nothing to do with the first gulf war, but they have a lot to do with this one. 
Comment by rabidbunny &lt;/em&gt;

See my point? By definition, US is the good force in every conflict. There is no question about it, no shade of doubt whatsoever, no discussion, no criticism. After US starved to death a ruined country that invaded Kuwait in order to press oil prices to its convenience and with complete allowance by Bush I, we had the I Gulf War. US was the good humanitarian force throwing out evil Saddam from good olÂ´Kuwait. No question about it. 12 years later after making up evidence US throws a shaming shock and awe operation against an unarmed country for some UN resolution violation while US has 70+ violations according to UN resolutions. But, there is no question that those bombs are somehow to spread peace and democracy. Then the toppling of the SaddamÂ´s regime, the first thing US forces did was to seize the Oil Ministry in Baghdad, while everything else was left for looting, you know, that will spread peace and democracy, right? Now, US builds 14 permanent bases in Iraq; yeah, as in permanent, while Iraqis want US out, but I guess they are now far better than they were back in SaddamÂ´s days...or they? Iraqis are willing to die in order to kill US forces, Sunnis, Shiites, Wahabbists, whatever, but they werent willing to die back then. US forces torture and rape civilians, but thats another way to bring peace and stability to the Middle East. But no, US actions are always for a good cause. Always. 
Now I can go to throw up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Al Qaeda had nothing to do with the first gulf war, but they have a lot to do with this one.<br />
Comment by rabidbunny </em></p>
<p>See my point? By definition, US is the good force in every conflict. There is no question about it, no shade of doubt whatsoever, no discussion, no criticism. After US starved to death a ruined country that invaded Kuwait in order to press oil prices to its convenience and with complete allowance by Bush I, we had the I Gulf War. US was the good humanitarian force throwing out evil Saddam from good olÂ´Kuwait. No question about it. 12 years later after making up evidence US throws a shaming shock and awe operation against an unarmed country for some UN resolution violation while US has 70+ violations according to UN resolutions. But, there is no question that those bombs are somehow to spread peace and democracy. Then the toppling of the SaddamÂ´s regime, the first thing US forces did was to seize the Oil Ministry in Baghdad, while everything else was left for looting, you know, that will spread peace and democracy, right? Now, US builds 14 permanent bases in Iraq; yeah, as in permanent, while Iraqis want US out, but I guess they are now far better than they were back in SaddamÂ´s days&#8230;or they? Iraqis are willing to die in order to kill US forces, Sunnis, Shiites, Wahabbists, whatever, but they werent willing to die back then. US forces torture and rape civilians, but thats another way to bring peace and stability to the Middle East. But no, US actions are always for a good cause. Always.<br />
Now I can go to throw up.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3637914', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#177 how do you know Al Queda sees Iraq as being pivital?  Pivital for the reason the president has said...that they will have a safe haven if we leave?  Using that line of thought, we will never leave.  Remeber the president himself hs said staying is wining leaving is losing, with no other condistions to recognize for either what do you do?  Or perhaps you mean AlQueda sees Iraq as being pivital for other reasons?  Perhaps because BinLaden has said that getting the US invloved in a land war in the Mid East works to Al Queda&#039;s advantage, in that case, then the president is acting as an AlQueda Operative would.  In either case staying is not a good option for the US. 

#183 Michael, once again you display a fox like non-grasp of reality.  Nort Korea and their Nuke program were contained and did not break the agreement until our president and his adminsitration reniged on terms of the Clinton era settlement.  Once they renigged so did North Korea.  Additionally the agreement we have today is no better than what Clinton had, so where exactly are we better off?  Your post overall sets you off as being a knee kjerk my way or fk off type of conservative.  

Firehead, using your logic, the united states had something to do with 911 since the hijackers were in the country prior to 911.  Dizzying.

#195 she did not say Iraq did 911 but once again she is freely associating Iraq and 911 even though the two are totally unrelated.  If Iraq is or becomes a safe haven for terrorists it is because we created the mess.  Also now please explain how leaving will give them a safe haven?  They already have a safe haven that we are not doing anything about it is called Saudi Arabia.  ANyhow do you think that the Shia are goingto let their enemy roam free?  The Kurds?  The Sunni May, but if we leave the Sunni Will align with Saudi, the Shia with Iran and the kurds will fend for themselves so our friends the Saudis can work on AlQueda since they are essentially the logistics base for the group.  Bunny you also seem to imply that AlQueda are the only one&#039;s in Iraq causing violence.  Well according to our military, you know the &quot;guys in the ground&quot; Al Queda is somewhere around 5% of the total.  And if we leave they may not leave but sure as shooting the shia will beat their ass and make them wish they had left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#177 how do you know Al Queda sees Iraq as being pivital?  Pivital for the reason the president has said&#8230;that they will have a safe haven if we leave?  Using that line of thought, we will never leave.  Remeber the president himself hs said staying is wining leaving is losing, with no other condistions to recognize for either what do you do?  Or perhaps you mean AlQueda sees Iraq as being pivital for other reasons?  Perhaps because BinLaden has said that getting the US invloved in a land war in the Mid East works to Al Queda&#8217;s advantage, in that case, then the president is acting as an AlQueda Operative would.  In either case staying is not a good option for the US. </p>
<p>#183 Michael, once again you display a fox like non-grasp of reality.  Nort Korea and their Nuke program were contained and did not break the agreement until our president and his adminsitration reniged on terms of the Clinton era settlement.  Once they renigged so did North Korea.  Additionally the agreement we have today is no better than what Clinton had, so where exactly are we better off?  Your post overall sets you off as being a knee kjerk my way or fk off type of conservative.  </p>
<p>Firehead, using your logic, the united states had something to do with 911 since the hijackers were in the country prior to 911.  Dizzying.</p>
<p>#195 she did not say Iraq did 911 but once again she is freely associating Iraq and 911 even though the two are totally unrelated.  If Iraq is or becomes a safe haven for terrorists it is because we created the mess.  Also now please explain how leaving will give them a safe haven?  They already have a safe haven that we are not doing anything about it is called Saudi Arabia.  ANyhow do you think that the Shia are goingto let their enemy roam free?  The Kurds?  The Sunni May, but if we leave the Sunni Will align with Saudi, the Shia with Iran and the kurds will fend for themselves so our friends the Saudis can work on AlQueda since they are essentially the logistics base for the group.  Bunny you also seem to imply that AlQueda are the only one&#8217;s in Iraq causing violence.  Well according to our military, you know the &#8220;guys in the ground&#8221; Al Queda is somewhere around 5% of the total.  And if we leave they may not leave but sure as shooting the shia will beat their ass and make them wish they had left.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3636862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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