Rep. Cantor Launches Partisan Smear Campaign Against Pelosi For Syria Visit
Rep. Cantor Launches Partisan Smear Campaign Against Pelosi For Syria Visit
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), the chief deputy minority whip in the House, has launched a partisan smear campaign against Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) for visiting Syria. He writes in the National Review:
The Speaker and many of her Democratic allies have become so drunk with grandiose visions of deposing Bush that they break bread with terrorists and enemies of the United States. The Speaker’s words and actions carry consequences for U.S. policy, and they certainly did our allies no favors last week. Instead of standing united with the president and Congress against the Syrian menace, Mrs. Pelosi chose to needlessly divide us.
Nowhere in his 700-word diatribe does Cantor mention the fact that five Republicans “broke bread” with Assad last week: Reps. Frank Wolf, Joseph Pitts, Robert Aderholt, David Hobson, and Darrell Issa.
Meanwhile, on his blog, Cantor is conducting a campaign to “Stop Pelosi.” He writes that Congress has “remained silent on Pelosi’s misrepresentation of Israel’s position. They have remained silent on her assistance to Syrian propaganda efforts.”
Unsurprisingly, Cantor is falsifying the record. Here are the facts:
Pelosi Was Asked To Communicate A Message And She Did. Before she left for Syria, Olmert’s spokeswoman Miri Eisin said “Pelosi is conveying that Israel is willing to talk if they (Syria) would openly take steps to stop supporting terrorism.” And that’s what Pelosi did: “We conveyed to him Prime Minister Olmert’s overture for peace talks when Syria openly takes steps to stop supporting terrorism.”
Pelosi Communicated A Consistent Message. Republican Congressman David Hobson said Pelosi “did not engage in any bashing of Bush in any meeting I was in and she did not in any meeting I was in bash the policies as it relates to Syria.” Republican Congressman Joseph Pitts noted, “Ms. Pelosi contacted us while we were in Israel, and we told her the message we gave. The message she gave Syria was similar to the message we gave.”
Cantor encourages his readers to contact Congress: “It is time for House Democrats to hear from you about how unhappy you are with Speaker Pelosi’s trip to Damascus.” Actually, it’s time for Rep. Cantor to hear from you — go leave a message in his comments section or give his office a call and tell him to stop his partisan-motivated attacks against Pelosi.
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Just another republican partisan smear.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:35 amI thought I recognized one of those bunnies standing next to La La on the balcony……
April 10th, 2007 at 11:36 amCantor makes an ass of himself every time he’s in the media.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:36 amrepugnant-repub Eric Cantor—Bushland Uber Allies LAPDOG and Elliott Abrams BUTT-BOY—TELL ME, Eric, DON’T YOU FEEL ASHAMED DOING THE BIDDING OF SUCH REPREHENSIBLE CRIMINALS AND THIEVES???? OH, I FORGOT—YOU’RE A REPREHENSIBLE CRIMINAL AND THIEF YOURSELF, AREN’T YOU?????? TURDS OF A CRIMINAL FEATHER STICK TOGETHER AND WILL BE FLUSHED DOWN THE CRAPPER OF FORGOTTEN HISTORY TOGEHER AS WELL!!!! SO LONG, Eric, BETTER HOLD YOUR BREATH, ITS A LONG DROP TO THE SEWERS, YOU MANGY RAT!!!!!
April 10th, 2007 at 11:36 amThe more the neocons bleat about Pelosi’s visit to Syria, the more they reveal themselves as the obstructionist chickenhawks they are.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:36 amRove: “You guys keep telling the lies long and loud enough and we’ll keep out 30% support base!!!”
April 10th, 2007 at 11:38 amIs Cantor representing the citizens of his State or the Israeli Likud Party.??? The Congress and Bush administration is riddled by liers like Cantor who love their Israeli paymaster more than the U.S. Impeach him.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:39 amI posted a comment on Cantor’s site. Let’s see how long it stays up. Wingnuts don’t generally care for opposing viewpoints.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:40 amWhy do we have an Embassy in Syria if it’s a Terrorist State?
April 10th, 2007 at 11:42 am————————————————————————————
The difference is that unlike the Republicans mentioned, Pelosi (and Kerry) make these trips in order to undermine the President’s foreign policy, not to support it.
Just like Jimmah Cartah.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:45 amAnother male neocon hillbilly going after a woman in the press. Say it ain’t so neocons. Hell, let the neocons bitch on about Pelosi. They truly do look like little boys throwing a tantrum. Boohooohoo. In 08 , the neocon bubble will burst. And green sludge will be everywhere.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:46 am#
Why do we have an Embassy in Syria if it’s a Terrorist State?
Comment by hellinabucket — April 10, 2007 @ 11:42 am
April 10th, 2007 at 11:46 amMaybe,
1. Syria is NOT a Terrorist State?
2. Amerika IS a TERRORIST State?
Why do we have an Embassy in Syria if it’s a Terrorist State?
The world’s number one terrorist country is the one most of us here live in.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:47 amThe difference is that unlike the Republicans mentioned, Pelosi (and Kerry) make these trips in order to undermine the President’s foreign policy, not to support it.
What did Pelosi do to undermine Zippy the Chimp’s foreign policy, chuckles? Be specific.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:48 am“… visions of deposing Bush…”
April 10th, 2007 at 11:49 amInteresting choice of a verb, such would indicate even Cantor might view the pResident as something of a despot…..
#13 – He won’t be specific.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:51 amHe hasn’t been provided the talking points to repeat.
Yet.
The Republicans aren’t talking to us, they’re talking to their base.
You know: morons.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:52 am.
Partisan smear campaigns are all that Republicans have left. Good thing, too, since it is their specialty.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:53 amThe difference is that unlike the Republicans mentioned, Pelosi (and Kerry) make these trips in order to undermine the President’s foreign policy, not to support it.
Comment by Ringo — April 10, 2007 @ 11:45 am
Bush has a foreign policy? That’s news to me. Nice right wing talking point Ringo. Hey folks, look, Ringo just got his talking points fresh off the Rove right wing press express. HaHa! What a joke you trolls are. Too funny.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:53 amThe only active foreign policy G.Dubious has is going to the Arizona-Mexico border and walking up and down the fence line with his thumbs in his ears, waggling his fingers and sticking out his tongue.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:54 amThis ugly fool was lurking around a couple of month’s ago as well…Guess he want’s his 15 minutes of fame again…I wonder why all the lies and covering up that 5 republicans that went a few day’s before…It’s O,K, for them to go but not Palosi.? How bizarr this has all become…Let’s get Impeachment back on the table and forget all this crap…….Blessings
April 10th, 2007 at 11:54 amThe difference is that unlike the Republicans mentioned, Pelosi (and Kerry) make these trips in order to undermine the President’s foreign policy, not to support it.
Just like Jimmah Cartah.
Comment by Ringo — April 10, 2007 @ 11:45 am
That would make sense if the President had a viable foreign policy. He’s just mad because he didn’t get to invade Iran. Syria says they helped free the Brits. Bush doesn’t get to have another war that would totally overwhelm our military so now you’re all crying like a bunch of babies.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:55 amthis is the guy who is a tad confused who has authority to declare war — even tweety was mortified:
MATTHEWS: This isn‘t an option question. This isn‘t multiple choice.
Right now, February 8, 2007, do you believe we should go to war with Iran?
CANTOR: I‘ll leave that decision up to the commanders on the ground and those in our military …
MATTHEWS: Commanders on the ground whether we go to war with another country?
CANTOR: I will leave the decisions in the military arena to—this is exactly the point.
MATTHEWS: This is Barry Goldwater taking. He used to say that.
Regional commanders can decide whether we want it use nuclear weapons. You‘re obviously saying soldiers should decide which country to go to war with.
CANTOR: I‘m here to say the military experts are those which might come up with the recommendation to the commander in chief that makes the decision. It is silly for us to expect .
MATTHEWS: I‘m not talking – I just asked you a very simple question .
CANTOR: We‘re going 535 commanders in chief .
MATTHEWS: I‘ve never heard of anything like this in my life. Never in my life.
ISRAEL: Congress has a constitutional responsibility to decide whether we‘re going to war or not. That‘s what we‘re elected to do. Those are the debates we should have.
CANTOR: Every president since .
MATTHEWS: The idea of declaring war as a soldier is unimaginable.
We‘ll be right back to talk HARDBALL with the two congressmen.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:57 am#19 Comment by Raven — April 10, 2007 @
That was awesome. When all else fails, neocons always fall back on “hate the mexicans” banter. It’s all they know. And the mainstream media loves to play that game.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:57 amThe only active foreign policy G.Dubious has is going to the Arizona-Mexico border and walking up and down the fence line with his thumbs in his ears, waggling his fingers and sticking out his tongue.
Comment by Raven
yeah, Raven. And saying the words “hard work” at least a dozen times. I don’t think that “man” ever knew a day of “hard work” in his life. Unless you count the times he bit too hard on the silver spoon he was eating with.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:58 amIf Bushco is so anti-Syria because it sponsors terrorism, why did they render suspected terrorists – e.g. Maher Arar – to Syria?
Isn’t that like, erm, what’s it called, a security risk…
April 10th, 2007 at 11:58 amI believe Ringo wanted to state that Bush’s policy is foreign. That makes much more sense than the no dialogue doctrine.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:59 amIt’s all well and good to call Syria a terrorist nation or a state sponsor of terrorism etc. but aren’t words supposed to have meaning?
How can we call Syria any of those things without defining what you mean by terrorism? As far as I can tell, we do not even have a definition for “terrorism” and if we don’t even know what the term means how can tell Syria is guilty of it?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:02 pmThe Syrian menace?
Oh noes! Syria!!!
LOL.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:02 pmWell said Congressman..nail the surrender lobby!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:04 pmThe republican hyporcricy about this trip grows daily. It makes me sick.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:07 pmAnd, if Syria is such a no no, why do send people there to be tortured? Good enogh to do our dirty work, not good enough to have diplomatic relations with.
Patrick1 sez:
Proof positive of the idiocy of Rep. Cantor…a ringing endorsement from Patrick1.
Thanks for settling that, Patrick1.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:08 pmyou cant tell the shitwipe to stop his attacks on pelosi…
it’s what he’s paid to do…
what you hafta do is dig up as much really stinky dirt on this fucknozzle as possible, and–whether it is true or not–GET IT OUT THERE!!!! Smear him. Dirty him. Discredit him: he molests children–there’s no evidence that he doesnt, is there? he was mark foley’s occasional roommate! he was jack abrams bag-boy! he gives imus blowjobs at the ymca…
it doesn’t matter…fling enough shit and some of it will stick…
April 10th, 2007 at 12:09 pmthat’s the GOP way…
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Note that troll has left bait in post #29 in hopes that he can catch some juicy posts with it. Make the troll unhappy and don’t take the bait.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:09 pmMy local paper carried an opinion piece by Dan K. Thomasson today — exact same thing. Pelosi’s visit “sends the wrong message”. NOWHERE in the piece did Thomasson mention the Republicans on the trip with Pelosi, or the Republicans who met with Assad before and after Pelosi did. NOWHERE did he mention exactly WHAT Pelosi had done or said that “sent the wrong message”.
Outright crap. Either lazy or dishonest, i don’t know which. but it hardly measures up to any reasonable standards of journalism. Cantor is just a partisan hack trying to make what political hay he can. Thomasson’s article is a disgrace.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:09 pmmy measuring stick: If the Right doesn’t like it, it has got to be good for the country. The more they protest and whine, the better it must be.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:11 pmOnly 16 comments so far on Cantor’s site. Each post is being moderated.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:12 pmthere seems to be quite a high level of ‘douchebaggery’ afoot…
April 10th, 2007 at 12:12 pmMan that was fun (but they have comment moderation so I’m not sure my–pretty funny if you don’t mind–comment will be published). This guy is such a moron.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:12 pmHow long until Cantor shuts down his comments section, exactly like “Never Surrender” run-and-hide Tom Delay did when he launched his blog??
April 10th, 2007 at 12:12 pmI posted the following comment on Cantor’s site, but it seems to have been blocked:
“MIS-Representative Cantor seems to be cut from the same mold as W and his cronies. Tell the same lie enough times, and before long it will become a fact in the minds of the cool-aid drinking, O’Reilly-loving, sheep.
Time will reveal the truth about this corrupt regime!”
I’ll post it again and see if they let it stand…
April 10th, 2007 at 12:13 pmi wonder who wrote that screed for him?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:14 pmhe obviously can’t think beyond a 3rd gradre level,
and that little statement was about 6th grade quality.
What was the point of Pelosi’s trip? Why smooze with a fascist dictator who murdered the former Prime Minister of Lebanon? Was she getting advice on how to surrender Western Civilization to Islamo Fascism?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:14 pmNOWHERE in the piece did Thomasson mention the Republicans on the trip with Pelosi, or the Republicans who met with Assad before and after Pelosi did. NOWHERE did he mention exactly WHAT Pelosi had done or said that “sent the wrong messageâ€.
This is what they do when they’re scared shitless: retract into their mouth-breather base and just plain make shit up, like with Bush’s supposed offer of Miers and Rove under oath. O’Reilly cut the mike of the woman who corrected them.
Back into your cave, Republicans. Apparently the real world’s too scary for you. Look out! It’s mighty Syria! Oooooooo, now yer gonna need ya a new diaper, aren’t you, trolls?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:15 pm.
Only 16 comments so far on Cantor’s site. Each post is being moderated.
Comment by OKC — April 10, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
then mine prob’ly won’t become #17, cuz i asked when he stopped finger-fucking his children…
drat…
April 10th, 2007 at 12:15 pm109th congress rolled over and played dead. Didn’t ask any hard questions. Didn’t call for facts or oversight. Didn’t stand in the way when the War Machine jumped 2 countries over to attack on lies.
It’s laughable. The big ol’ bullies push everyone around for no real reason and then complain that nobody’s supporting them.
Patrick1, I believe the best part of your argument has been flushed down the toilet.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pm‘Break bread’ is an interesting choice of words. By no means am I a biblical scholar, but didn’t that Jesus guy ‘break bread’ and ’sup’ with the Pharisees and others whom he opposed? I’ve read the gospels a while ago, so could someone clarify this for me?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pmWas she getting advice on how to surrender Western Civilization to Islamo Fascism?
If we say “yes,” do you promise to go wank in private from now on?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pm.
Waiting to see if the comment is accepted at Cantor’s site.
# Michael Harold Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Keep it up! At the rate you are going, you are very likely to be one of the supporting actors in the creation of a Democratic supermajority in the next Congress.
Your base is certainly listening to what you have to say. So are a lot of independents all over this country who are pretty much fed up with all the noise.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:18 pmPatty:
You sure talk tough for being such a PUSSY, why aren’t you over there fighting then?
Why do you lick arse so much?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:18 pmPatrick1 it’s obvious that you don’t believe a thing you’re posting.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:19 pmComment by Proud Dem — April 10, 2007 @ 11:58 am
My personal favorite is when he says “work Americans won’t do.” How many of these Mexicans don’t even get paid minimum wages. Americans WON’T do them because they can’t afford to live on $2/hour.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:20 pmYes, well . . . I feel that all of the lieing is not really working as
April 10th, 2007 at 12:20 pmwell as it used to.
I mean, when everything that you say is a freaking lie, people tend to quit believeing you.
I left a comment at the site linked above. It is awaiting moderation, so I better post it here too.
Dear Congressman Cantor
You lie. Pelosi did a favor for one of our allies — Israel. This was reported before her arrival in Syria by the associated press see http://charlotte.com/121/story/70786.html. The fact that Olmert chose to lie and claim that he did not send a message via Pelosi after his spokeswoman had publically announced the exact opposite, *before* Pelosi delivered the message, may help us understand why he is even less popular in Israel than Bush is in the USA.
You might add lie to lie and claim that Pelosi delivered the wrong message saying Israel was prepared for talks, not that Israel was prepared for talks, if and only if, Syria stopped supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. Pelosi claims she delivered the correct message. Her claim has not been contradicted by the Republican congressman who was with her delegation (and who you neglected to mention) or by her State Department sherpas. I conclude that she is telling the truth.
The attack on Pelosi is more than usually absurd even given the total contempt that you and your fellow Republicans have for the truth. It is not good strategy to tell lies which can easily be proven to be lies.
You are both a fool and a knave. I look forward to seeing if you have a credible opponent in 2008 as I would then donate to his or her campaign.
your fellow citizen
April 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pmRobert Waldmann
This was my comment:
And this is what they put there after moderation:
April 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
44. yes Jesus did do all of that. shortly thereafter he was tortured then nailed to a cross. go figure
April 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pmbut didn’t that Jesus guy ‘break bread’ and ’sup’ with the Pharisees and others whom he opposed?
No he did not.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:24 pmthe Syrian menace
And Syria is a “menace” to whom, exactly. If Cantor insists on putting Israel’s interests before those of the US, he should be prosecuted under the Logan Act.
Right?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:24 pm.
Nancy Pelosi is more like Neville Chamberlain than Jesus Christ.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pmrepublicans sure are giving white males a bad name – they (republicans) are all smarmy, lying, immature, impish white guys. Pathetic really.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pm.
Oooh! They are not just moderating the comments on Cantor’s blog, they are *changing* them. I sent this:
“Dear Eric; I just called my congressmen like you wanted me to. I told him that I completely support everything Ms. Pelosi has done since January 20th. I did not tell him what a wanker you are, so your secret is safe for now.”
What appeared on the site was this:
=====
“# Argonaut Says:
April 10th, 2007 at 11:23 am
Dear Eric; “I just called my congressman like you wanted me to. I told him that I want ms. pelosi to stop everything she has done since Jan 20th.”
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So guys, check back and see what they are doing.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pmClearly the troll was unhappy and decided to leave more bait out in post #41. Standard trolling procedure. Don’t bother responding to his posts, he’s not listening. He just wants to laugh at all of the people taking his bait.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:27 pmnancy should resign
April 10th, 2007 at 12:27 pmJust spoke to Cantor’s office, his staff seems a bit harried. Give them a call, leave a comment. It’s fun to ask staffers why they are supporting a pol who is destroying our national debate.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:27 pmRep. Cantor should be forced to resign from the House of Representatives > PERIOD.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pmMy post is under moderation as well, but the ones that are up are all pretty much ones he is not going to enjoy reading. lol
April 10th, 2007 at 12:29 pm53. That’s what I figured, thanks. The more things change…
April 10th, 2007 at 12:29 pmThey moderated it right out of there!
# Michael Harold Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Keep it up! At the rate you are going, you are very likely to be one of the supporting actors in the creation of a Democratic supermajority in the next Congress.
Your base is certainly listening to what you have to say. So are a lot of independents all over this country who are pretty much fed up with all the noise.
Comment by Michael Harold — April 10, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
April 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pm“Instead of standing united with the president and Congress against the Syrian menace . . . ”
The Syrian menace???
To what? The world hummus supply?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:32 pmOOOh, if they are changing posts, that might make another front pager! Oh, I can’t wait for the fun.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:32 pmYou kind of wonder what Cantor is getting at, seeing as his party of conservatives holds an actively anti-American ideology.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pmIf we say “yes,†do you promise to go wank in private from now on?
Comment by Grand Moff Texan
LMAO!!! Good job.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pmSpeaker Pelosi must of done something right as the President of Syria has invited the delegation back for more talks.
GO NANCY PELOSI GO!!!!!
Republicans Nuts are BABIES.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:35 pmThank god I don’t live in Virginia. GOP Stooge capitol of the nation.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:36 pmMy newest post to Cantor (under review):
Now it seems this blog is CHANGING the content and meaning of posts to support Cantor’s position. It’s a poor argument that cannot withstand even basic scrutiny.
Let’s see how long it lasts.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:37 pmWell, they didn’t even post mine. They axed it. I was critical, but not rude. I guess that they don’t post what they don’t want to hear. I also called a couple of the offices on the list to tell them to keep the good work and to ignore the wanker!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pmInstead of standing united with the president and Congress against the Syrian menace
Oh, the Syrian Menace…somebody help us, we are the poor Western Civilization that has to go invading countries so we feel secure…and no, we wont stop until everybody is dead or buying American stuff.
The sad thing is that people bought this with Nicaragua, Panama, Granada, Vietnam, Iraq…you know, big threats.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pmI love nancy pelosi.
No one woman better represents democratic/progressive ideals than she.
Any gop hack who tries to do political damage to her is kidding themself.
That botux-marionette blinking face is the face of the democratic party. Long live the pelosi.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:46 pmI put another post up. We’ll see.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmThe “Syrian Menace?” Seriously, do these guys even listen to themselves?
April 10th, 2007 at 12:48 pmMy comment was edited also.
Unbelievable.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pmDon’t have anthing better paul? How sad.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pm“Don’t have anthing better paul?”
I ask the same question in regard to Pelosi.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmwait a sec – WHO is drunk with gradiose visions??…..
the radical restructuring a part of the world that’s been set in its ways since before western civilization arose ISN’T the grandiose vision of a drunk????
WTF???!!!
April 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pmI did check out this site, and it was truly chilling. I particularly noted items such as Shirley’s Please keep the pressure on, we’ve got to malign Nancy Pelosi.
Sad when even the women think everything should be vicious and testosterone fueled. Ms. Pelosi is a strong and capable women; too bad that terrifies people so. I’m grateful that there’s someone in the government capable of actual diplomacy and leadership.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:53 pmEric Cantor – isn’t he the Congressman who’s right on a set of measure zero?
(It’s a math geek joke. If you’re not one, don’t worry about it.)
April 10th, 2007 at 12:55 pmLet’s not forget, Paul, the hogjowled pumpkinhead and dimpled buttocks of “fat” denny hastert – the face of the GOP
just needed to “fair and balance” that weak ad hominem for ya, skippy
April 10th, 2007 at 12:55 pmon the brighter side of pelosi…
she can keep her deer in the headlights blinking routine, as Iran goes on to surface test their nuke program.
They’ll just have to detonate a couple of hundred tests to get their program up to speed with the US. The small damage to the enivronment is a small price to pay to make sure Iran gets nukes.
The byproduct of a nuclear Iran, will also lead to an increased defense budget for the next 20-30 years.
Nothing I love more than passive resistance.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:57 pmdid the fall from the turnip truck hurt much, Paul? i think you may have bumped your head, and forgotten whatever you knew about the last hundred years of world history.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:02 pmas Iran goes on to surface test their nuke program
And don’t forget about their Giant Napalm-Breathing Pony program. The liberal media doesn’t want you to know about that. Why is Nancy Pelosi so intend on making sure that Iran gets Giant Napalm-Breathing Ponies? Is it because she hates Western Civilization, or because she’s a Secret Jew, like George Soros?
Thanks for keeping the REAL news alive, Paul.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:03 pm.
#85
FUNNY how Halliburton just finished a major contract in Iran.
TREASON???
You bet…
April 10th, 2007 at 1:04 pmRE: ‘Didn’t that Jesus guy ‘break bread’ ….
Not at the last supper, but Jesus was very clear about loving your enemy. While we do not need to “love” them by our modern definition, we do need to maintain dialogue. As a lifelong conservative (notice I did not say Republican), I am appalled by various policies and viewpoints of both parties. In the context of these posts, I am particularly concerned about the lack of discussions between the current administration and countries they have labeled as “terrorist”, “axis of evil”, etc. To put it simply, people fear that which they do not know, and if we are not making ourselves diplomatically available to both friends and enemies alike, the chances for long-term problems caused by a lack of understanding are…frighteningly high.
My $.02.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:04 pmHas anyone thought what the ramifications would have been if say, Kay Bailey Hutchinson would have been the first female leader of the Senate? You’d thunk we’d need a national holiday to celebrate. This is pure simple little dicked misogyny at it’s very finest. They are absolute women haters. I’m so tired of theocratic pedantic morons at the helm of this government.
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April 10th, 2007 at 1:06 pm“Ms. Pelosi is a strong and capable women” who is so vain she needs botux.
Is she embarassed of looking her age? It’s not like the injections are fooling anyone.
but to support the theory that she will be well received in the ME, as a result of BAD plastic surgery, I could quickly point to Jacko.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:06 pmjust posted THIS on Cantor’s site. Let’s see how long it stays…:
whiteyfresh Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
I applaud you on your efforts to show how Congress has stepped up in support of the president, and against Mrs. Pelosi. I further look forward to hearing you condemn the 5 Republicans who went to Syria with Mrs. Pelosi, as well as the 3 Rebulicans who went to Syria a week before the Speaker of the House. Also, I look forward to your Outrage at Dennis Hastert for specifically telling Columbian diplomats to circumvent the President entirely and deal directly with Congress. Obviously, you must shed some light on this fallacy. I look forward to your comments in the coming days and months holding all who deviate from supporting the executive branch responsible. Thank you.
I’m still ‘awaiting moderation’ Can I slip it by, or will i be fed to the wolves?
April 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pmcan anyone translate gmt for me?
April 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pmNothing I fear more than blind obedience. Where are the true military people that spout the rush to crush another country for the sake of fear itself. Real military understand the logistics to actually win, not Bush win but really win. It means boots on the ground. It means supply lines, It means overwhelming support from the homefront and it means a just cause.
The Republican leadership has either failed or ignored what it really means to win. All they have is slogans and the blind obedient one’s just follow along.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThey are absolute women haters. I’m so tired of theocratic pedantic morons at the helm of this government.
Comment by the fly-man
Indeed. Republicans should go back to taking their frustrations out on underage boys. It’s important to stick to what you’re good at.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:10 pm.
Here’s my latest comment on Cantor’s site which is awaiting moderation. Enjoy it here, since it will probably never show up there.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
but didn’t that Jesus guy ‘break bread’ and ’sup’ with the Pharisees and others whom he opposed?
No he did not.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 10, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
Luke 14:1 “On a sabbath he went to dine at the home of one of the leading Pharisees, and the people there were observing him carefully.”
April 10th, 2007 at 1:11 pm–New American Bible
I just posted a civilized comment on Cantor’s blog, but I’m getting a message saying “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” In the event my comment is not published there, this is what the fRight Wing Babies considers to be an inappropriate comment:
House Speaker Gingrich went to China in 1997 for the purpose of challenging President Clinton’s policy vis a vis China. Gingrich’s trip was widely praised on the right wing, from Buchanan to Boehner. IOKIYAR (It’s OK If You’re A Republican)
Do you still wonder why we on the left are angry? It’s because we love our country, and we hate to see it torn asunder by lying propagandists who act like they’re the greatest gift to mankind.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:12 pmpaul………check out the First Easter Bunny’s stitched and stapled on grin and then get back to us about anyone elses plastic surgery…
April 10th, 2007 at 1:13 pmI’m one of the suckers who had her comment altered. I’ve already called Rep. Cantor’s DC office and complained.
Next up is a complaint to his ISP with a copy to Speaker Pelosi.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:13 pmeaster bunny? wtf?
April 10th, 2007 at 1:15 pmMr. Cantor’s website altered your post but used your name? He doesn’t know when to quit digging.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:16 pmI’m still ‘awaiting moderation’ Can I slip it by, or will i be fed to the wolves?
Comment by whiteyfresh
Take a screenshot before it’s edited and posted. They edited my comment down to the first sentence, “Thank you for the list of contacts.”
April 10th, 2007 at 1:17 pmcan anyone translate gmt for me?
Comment by paul
For you? No, I don’t speak stupid.
I’d love to see Patrick1’s bible, though. He’s quite the Christian scholar.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:17 pm.
paul…………Lala Bush as she m’ceed the White House easter egg hunt, scroll back a few threads……………
April 10th, 2007 at 1:18 pmPaul, he’s talking about Laura Bush.
If there are any stores in your area, speak with them about purchasing a clue or two.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:19 pmWatch out! Peace may break out and that’s bad for business.
So if you repeat the lie often enough…
April 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pmso disappointed to come here looking for maturity and true progressive thinking only to find none.
seeing this level of rhetoric and abject childish name-calling makes one think the freepers or a bunch of lizardoids just got a tofu injection and started wearing birkenstocks.
hatred everywhere with a side of no substance. no wonder you all could not even win a presidential election that was served to you on a silver platter.
sad to think that this is what passes for “progressive” when it more akin to a return to the schoolyard.
Think Progress, Act Regress
April 10th, 2007 at 1:22 pmSo “patrick1″ says Jesus DID NOT dine with the Pharisees and sinners.
Another LIE by “patrick1″.
OR he may never have read the Bible.
HE certainly does NOT know Jesus.
Pretty much like MURDERER Bush the TRAITOR coxucker PUNK.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:23 pmObviously the neo cons are terrified and the most transparent of lies to an unbelieving public are all they have left to them. This speaks volumes on their own appraisal of their current situation . The other wonderful strategy they have employed in the last few days is to call the critics ,who have pointed out the remarkable similarities between their policies foreign and domestic to Hitler ,Nazis to attempt to confuse their own shrinking base ( no one else is buying it ! ).
April 10th, 2007 at 1:23 pmThese are desperate acts by desperate individuals who see the writing on the wall all to clearly !
THEY’RE TERRIFIED !
For those who might like to complain about the altered posts: According to his whois, Cantor’s web site is hosted by this company.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:25 pmInteresting. My comment, with no vulgarities, was removed quite promptly. Keep the comments flowing, because they will keep deleting them.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:28 pmbloggus: check post #92, and I have a hard copy(printed). I can’t seem to figure out how to do a ’screen capture’ though :(
April 10th, 2007 at 1:31 pmand here I am thinkin I’m all techno-savvy and junk….
Sweet. Spion must be better than me because he/she said so.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:32 pm‘For you? No, I don’t speak stupid.’
actually your incoherence is more suggestive of the time you have spent around the proverbial fire, with your fellow caveman grunting away. you should get out more.
Laura? botux? heaven forbid. Maybe you can get me a link to some photo-I have been expressing my botux fetish lately.
“So if you repeat the lie often enough…”
Here’s the rub: Iranian leader openly speaks about destroying Israel. Declares hatred for the US. In three years you’ll be able to add to the montage, a mushroom cloud and missiles parading up and down the streets of Iran.
The only repetition I predict is Iran’s nuke program and it progress, eagerly playing out in the US media.
Politics will change in a NY minute. (no 9/11 reference meant), enjoy progressive days in the sun, they are numbered.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:32 pmoop. time for lunch. Back in a few. I’ll post what happens to my comment when I get back….
April 10th, 2007 at 1:33 pmI took a before-and-after screen shot of my comment. Posted on my blog.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:33 pm“the visit carries consequences for US policy”. And those consequences will open the door for securing peace that the bushies just do not want.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:37 pmBush policy is a total failure and any change is obviously the right way to procede. Pelosi policy is level headed policy.
Black water , a private mercenary army , which has actively operated on the streets of America, with a budget of billions ,forming a 1 to 3 ratio with our own troops in Iraq ,represented by kenneth star and general counsel to the president Fred Fielding,planning to expand into ( domestic ?) intelligence, based in VIRGINIA must love this guy .
A private army based in Virginia ,GEE DIDN”T HITLER HAVE ONE OF THOSE ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
April 10th, 2007 at 1:38 pmlaura does have botux, apparently she goes to the same doctor as J kerry.
upon thinking of it, I see her in the news maybe twice a year.
Bush fanatics on the otherhand apparently can’t get enough pics. Whatever makes you happy.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:39 pmYes, Pelosi so accurately relayed Israel’s message Olmert felt compelled to issue a statement clarifying what his nation’s stance was re: Syria – not until they renounce terrorism. Funny she forgot to mention that.
Imagine if Israel and its people would stop selfishly clinging to survival and just march into the sea to die in an orderly, German fashion. Spontaneous world peace! Arab dictators embracing democracy and rule of law! Millions of poor Muslims immediately lifted out of poverty. Why, oh Lord, did you smite us with those pesky jews!?!
Because all the pathologies of the Middle East are the result of ~10 million jews living and prospering amidst 1 billion muslims.
I wonder if Pelosi struck a blow for women’s rights and drove herself, unescorted, to her tete a tete at the Royal Palace in Saudi Arabia. She would look fetching in a burqa…
April 10th, 2007 at 1:39 pmPolitics will change in a NY minute. (no 9/11 reference meant), enjoy progressive days in the sun, they are numbered. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
Actually politics doesn’t change in a minute, it changes over decades. And you’ve had yours – dum bass. You just squandered it on back room corruption, and inept invasion of the WRONG COUNTRIES. Get a f*cking clue you st*pid little piece of sh*t.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:39 pmHey Spion,
Hypothetical question for you: Let’s say you love your country. I don’t mean love in a back seat, fisting up to your elbow sense, but love in a “this is the greatest country evah, I want to protect it at all costs” sense. And a group of people — let’s call them Republicans — start telling a bunch of lies. They say you’re a pussy. They say you hate your country. They say you love the terrorists who would destroy your country.
I am curious as to how you, a Super Polite (TM) anonymous commenter, might react in this hypothetical. Might you assert, “Pardon me, but do you have any Grey Poupon?” Perhaps you would oh-so-delicately inquire, “Didn’t we meet at the bar mitzvah last year?” Or maybe you consider responding with hostile language — you ponder what it would feel like to proclaim, “I don’t believe I appreciate it when you say things that might not be entirely true under certain specific circumstances” — but then you think better of it and instead you just say, “Are we still on for dinner tomorrow at the Country Club.”
April 10th, 2007 at 1:40 pmEveryone – email Cantor and others in Congress, R and D, and express support for Pelosi. We need to make our voices heard on this, to rival the volume of Republican noise!
April 10th, 2007 at 1:43 pmCantor is just upset that Nancy doesn’t screw her siblings like he does. Yay for those red state, cousin-lovin, deer-molestin’ Virginia values!
April 10th, 2007 at 1:43 pmWhat Iran’s president said about Isreal has also been MODERATED by the 6 companies that own in excess of 90 % of all print , radio and TV in the US ,and is also also becoming obvious to the American people .
April 10th, 2007 at 1:43 pmHere’s the comment I just left on Cantor’s blog – it’s “awaiting moderation,” so good luck in ever seeing it there.
You know, it’s bad enough that you debase yourself and your office by calling for condemnation of Speaker Pelosi’s trip to Syria when you know full well that (1) she was accompanied by at least one Republican member of Congress, and (2) several other Republicans had met with Assad just days earlier. Your disingenuous partisanship is truly reprehensible.
But, on balance, the error is compounded because you (or someone in your employ) actually changed a comment, from “People in the Sun,†from 11:14 am this morning. (In the event HTML doesn’t work, one need only click on the “People in the Sun†link to see the explanation.)
Have you no shame, Congressman? I recognize that the Republican Party is so far in the toilet that they – you – must resort to changing facts in order to stay afloat in any argument today, but did you really think it would go unnoticed that a comment was edited and its meaning changed 180 degrees in the opposite direction?
Stop attacking the Speaker and leaving your GOP colleagues out of the equation. That dog just won’t hunt, sir.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:46 pmOMG Baron Von is it really you?! Still spouting the same BS after all these years?! I would have thought you would have had enough of your butt being handed to you at the Agnostic/Atheist forum but apparently here you are again, ready to stink up the forum with your doublespeak.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:47 pmvvgfu-
“Actually politics doesn’t change in a minute” it would seem in you mind they never change. You have concretely constructed a belief system that filters out reality. I’m glad to see the internet provide the support you need. Al gore has saved you.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:47 pmsad to think that this is what passes for “progressive†when it more akin to a return to the schoolyard.
Think Progress, Act Regress
Comment by spion — April 10, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Says the GOP troll *pretending* to be a progressive, while using nothing but right wing language.
You’re as transparent as bush’s attack, you wingnut *sshole.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:49 pmImagine if Israel and its people would stop selfishly clinging to survival and just march into the sea to die in an orderly, German fashion.
Imagine if before asking other countries to renounce alleged terrorism, Israel stopped its own brutal acts of terrorism against the Palestinians and others.
Nah, too far-fetched.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:49 pmRepresentative cantor ,making America safer for FASCISTS !
April 10th, 2007 at 1:51 pmBrought to you by
The PEOPLE FOR AMERICAN DECAY !
“Actually politics doesn’t change in a minute†it would seem in you mind they never change. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
So you share the mind reading powers of valiant venus? No wonder you religious nutjobs say the st*pidest things. I said they *change-over-decades*, you illiterate little piece of sh*t. Don’t blame me that you can’t read *standard-english*, you trailer trash *sshole.
You have concretely constructed a belief system that filters out reality. I’m glad to see the internet provide the support you need. Al gore has saved you. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Project much? Substitute George Bush in that statement, and we have yet another GOP Wingnut worshiping their messiah.
You’re a piece of sh*t fool, that judges everyone based on your own inadequacies. Dum bass!
April 10th, 2007 at 1:51 pmwhy do you persecute me Paul ?
April 10th, 2007 at 1:52 pmJesus
#129 Al Gore has saved you…
And George W. Bush has FVKCED YOU and the rest of America!!
April 10th, 2007 at 1:53 pmWho the hell is the Minority Whip? If Cantor is the “Deputy” Whip he is near the bottom of the food chain.His main job is to carry Preparation H Suppositories for the “Real” Minority Whip. Who is? He has to be preaching to the choir. Nobody else would listen to his bullshit. I’m lucky I have a real Representative that performs “real” House work.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:55 pmHas any one noticed that Rep. Cantor’s district backs up to Rep. Wolf’s? Maybe they should chat at the Crackle Barrel on 81 more often. Man you know Dr. Rice has to be feeling like a red headed step child right now….
April 10th, 2007 at 1:56 pmAnother comment just left on Cantor’s blog:
Gramma Millie Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
April 10th, 2007 at 1:56 pmI represent a large national support group for people who have had lobotomies. We just polled our membership about this issue that Congressman Cantor is raising regarding Nancy Pelosi, D-Berkley. The results just came back and they are unanimous: Every single one of our members agrees with Congressman Cantor that Ms. Pelosi’s trip to Syria was very bad and very wrong and she deserves the death penalty in this matter. Thank you!
I left a comment at Cantor’s web site and they deleted it, sure they will later congradulate themselves on the favorable response rate they got. Smarmy self-righteous hypocrites.
April 10th, 2007 at 1:58 pm“You’re a piece of sh*t fool, that judges everyone based on your own inadequacies. Dum bass!”
It appears there is some tradeoff between reason and emotion. Kinda judgemental too. I am an indulgent person, please continue.
In simpler terms you posited that things don’t change quickly, ignoring incidents such as pearl harbor and 9/11. I disagree with your ability to induce evidence from history, and question your ability to deduce any future event.
I don’t know your mind, but then neither do you.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:01 pmWho the hell is the Minority Whip?
Trent Lott, of course. Nobody’s whipped more minorities than he has.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:02 pmHow about a private army with a budget of billions operating on American soil Paul ?
April 10th, 2007 at 2:03 pmOr the presidential use of signing statements which the American Bar Assoc. called the biggest threat to our system of government in a life time ?
Or spying on 100’s of 1000’s domestically while lying on the news hour to Jim Lehrer and the American people .
Or a war by Oil company execytives who wrote pre 911 that the US must invade the mid east in order to control China and the developing world .
Or the ability to waive all rights for American citizens deemed Enemies of the state .
Or the fact that 1/3 of all Americans believe 911 was an inside job by the Bush administration.
Or…..
The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………ect,ect ect and so on
hey, it’s your congress now.
fire away, within the alotted time of course.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:08 pmWhy do you hate America paul ? What do you have against the American constitution that so many Americans have died to protect ?
April 10th, 2007 at 2:08 pmYou want to live in a Soviet style republic ?
No statute of limitations on war crimes Paul , that gives us all the time in the world !
April 10th, 2007 at 2:10 pm141-that’s good. made me chuckle.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:12 pmDid Michael Ledeen violate the Logan Act with his visits to Italy before/after 9/11 ???
April 10th, 2007 at 2:13 pmHm, my “When are you enlisting?” comment on Cantor’s site just disappeared. Typical cowardly chickenhawk.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:16 pm“No statute of limitations on war crimes Paul , that gives us all the time in the world !”
that must be some pretty sweet koolaid you are drinking.
War crimes would suggest an international tribunal being formed. The likilihood of punishment being meted out by a feckless world, is nil.
Look at Rwanda. Nobody gives a crap about anything outside their own country.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:17 pmPaul do you have point? I may have missed an earlier posting. Isn’t congress for everyone?
April 10th, 2007 at 2:17 pmPaul makes me think you may have felt more comfortable in the 3rd reich and a Patriot even !
April 10th, 2007 at 2:19 pmBUT THIS IS AMERICA FRIEND !
DON”T TREAD ON ME !
“Substitute George Bush in that statement, and we have yet another GOP Wingnut worshiping their messiah.”
hmmm…2002 Iraq War Resolution was the product of a Democratic Senate. Apparently they paid a small tribute to their king.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:21 pmOuch! I didn’t pass the moderation test because I aske the “good” Congressman to pull his head out of his ass.
Ah, such is life.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:24 pmI merely stated the names of his Republican collegues that went, too.
That didn’t pass the Republican Freedom-O-Speech-O-Meter, I guess.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:26 pmI wrote a comment and they deleted it. I guess they did not like what I said. The nerve.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:28 pmWar crimes cases are already proceeding with many more waiting in the wings , and the deaths of nearly 3/4 of a million people by the neo con’s plans for GLOBAL HEGEMONY, ( their words not mine ) has already convicted them in the court of world opinion !!
April 10th, 2007 at 2:31 pmSee the video of university students trying to put KKK karl Rove under citizens arrest. It’s a hoot .
Oh and by the way , this is in our own country !
Democracy just works a little slow but INEXORABLY !!
Funny, I went to the comment section and most posts are raising question about Cantor’s allegations and yet many here have had their posts deleted! Only so much free speech for Cantor I guess.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:33 pmDemocratic Senate in 2002? Eh? You can’t get your facts straight on some basics. No wonder you’re all ready to follow the decider.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:36 pm[...] (hat tip to ThinkProgress) [...]
April 10th, 2007 at 2:38 pm“See the video of university students trying to put KKK karl Rove under citizens arrest.”
Same as the one where they are throwing things at him?
While not a religious man myself, I find a rich irony in the far left’s ridcule of religion, but then imitate the same principle acts of stoning found in the bible.
If the provision was asked that ‘he who has not sinned cast the first stone’, I have little doubt that everyone who participated would have felt it their honor to be first to cast.
Quite impossible to mollify a crowd driven by fevered beliefs to commit an act of aggression. I hope for an escalation of the indulgence, if only to serve as an embarassment for the few moderates who remain.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:38 pmAs a free-thinking American and someone who loves this country, I have to make a couple of comments.
It saddens me deeply that we have come to the point where the discourse is laden with foul language and accusations. There are few logical arguments about the issues here or especially on the “news” channels. Our political system has becomme a rotten game of one-upmanship in which everyone loses because nobody learns.
As stated earlier, I am a lifelong conservative; however, I do not hate all liberal thinking, and I do not hate liberals. I respect opposing viewpoints and am willing to listen, argue my points, and *gasp* occasionally change my mind.
We Americans(that includes me lest anything think I’m on a high horse, not just a soapbox) tend to think we must defend our positions to the end, and we have to serve as a check on each other and on ourselves and, most importantly, on our elected officials. I think that’s what happened in the last election, right?
Okay, I’m at work and distracted and my thoughts may not flow well, but my point is that Rep. Cantor is obviously either misguided (at best) or a brainless pawn and a lackey. Or worse. Most reasonable people would marginalize him. On the other hand, Ms. Pelosi (and I do not normally agree with Ms. Pelosis views) did the right thing by opening up a dialogue with Syria. We should do the same thing with ALL of our “enemies”. God bless her and America…and Mr. Bush as well to step away from the wall he is up against, save his presidency and hopefully our country’s reputation.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:39 pmWhen I moved back to Texas after 30 years in the SF Bay Area, I got included in the email discussion group of an old acquaintance. It was very Christian, very anti-immigrant, very anti-gay-marriage, very not my politics.
I decided what the hell and gave them a broadside on why conservatives should support gay marriage. I got back no negative comments. A couple of them thoughtfully countered what I said, and a couple more admitted I had given them food for thought.
Why is it then when I visit left-side discussion groups that it brings up images of Nathaniel entering the Huron village and being roughed up by the tough young braves? Do you really need all this mau-mauing and invective?
If it’s your thing, by all means, carry on. But maybe someone can point me to a site where there’s thoughtful discussion going on.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:40 pmPeople should address both parties in the next elections.
This war and its cost to America and other countries is not a partisan issue,it concerns everybody….and the people finally will make that decision in 2008 on who is to stay and who is to leave in Washington based on this important and demanding issue.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:41 pmCLICK..BOOM!!! and then the post was gone…
April 10th, 2007 at 2:42 pmNobody gives a crap about anything outside their own country.
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
Seems to me Paul , that war in the worlds most important oil fields to control the world maybe scaring more than a few bloggers at think progress .I spent a month in Europe this winter and I can assure you there is plenty of interest in George Bush there .They HATE the man .plainly, and for good reason ,he scares the hell out of them and they’re our allies !
April 10th, 2007 at 2:43 pmHugo Chavez ,received a standing ovation at the U.N. after calling Bush the Devil !
Seems to me that your more than a little deluded , as to the way that things lie today in the world .But what else can be expected from a man who supports the destruction of the US constitution as patriotic .
While not a religious man myself, I find a rich irony in the far left’s ridcule of religion, but then imitate the same principle acts of stoning found in the bible.
Inane Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
What the hell are you talking about?
April 10th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI haven’t been to this site before (I followed a link). At first I thought the folks posting here were pissed. After more reading, I thought the folks posting here were really angry. After reading almost all of it, I have come to the conclusion that “hate” really describes what I am reading.
Love, Joy, Happiness; None of those will arise from hate. Many posting here need to take a step back and observe the emotion that is creeping into or has taken over their daily life. Don’t let hate destroy your life, and take away those three things mentioned earlier.
Just a thought,
Dandy
I thought of this quote while posting: Col. Andy Tanner “All that hate is gonna burn you up, kid” Robert Morris “It keeps me warm.” I doubt it has anything to do with what I posted, but I am a sucker for cheesy 80’s flicks.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI tried leaving a response on Cantor’s website several times and the moderator deleted them each time.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:46 pmnancy should resign
Comment by ct #60
…after Bushiva and L’il Dick and their cult members et al…
…are all rounded up…
…tried under the Patriot Act for being “terrorists”, and anti-American TRAITORS…
…their wealth confiscated…
…convicted and incarcerated…
…and where applicable…
…Saddamized…
April 10th, 2007 at 2:47 pmReal Conservative Guy-
I agree with you interpetation. Everything is grey and a measure of degree caught between two ideals. For rational people, at least.
The left blogs are filled with absolutist, who mock bush for his simple(and absolutist) “either you are with us or you are against us” but continue to march to the same tune. When you look at the way media is presented, it usually feaures two people with polar views, who represent the moronic and unyielding of both left and right.
but I do disagree with everything else you said though.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:49 pmI saw that my comment was under moderation…too bad I have my own site so that I can share with the world, whether or not the Congressman’s moderator will.
BOOYA!
April 10th, 2007 at 2:52 pmIt appears there is some tradeoff between reason and emotion. Kinda judgemental too. I am an indulgent person, please continue.
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
Project much?
In simpler terms you posited that things don’t change quickly, ignoring incidents such as pearl harbor and 9/11. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
You posit that short term blips are both significant and long term trends. You forget that politics had already shifted to the left before pearl harbor, just as they had shifted somewhat to the right before 9/11. How else would you explain that before 9/11 there was a GOP controlled whitehouse and congress?
You have no evidence to back up your claims, but you presume much. Very *emotional* of you, as is typical of you right wing emotionally driven dum basses.
I disagree with your ability to induce evidence from history, and question your ability to deduce any future event.
I don’t know your mind, but then neither do you.
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
You can disagree with *reality* all you like, dum bass. Politics has always gone in large swings in the US, and the right wing has had its run for several years now. But guess what, your free ride is over – and you can’t handle reality.
So if you don’t know my mind, how do you know my mind, and what it knows? You really should learn what *reason* is, idiot – before you go arguing about it.
Would someone send a troll to the site with *half* a brain? These right wingnut idiots like paul are just boring…
April 10th, 2007 at 2:54 pmMy comment on Cantor’s blog (see #127 above) finally was deleted after about an hour “awaiting moderation.”
Fuckin’ brownshirt Repukes.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:56 pm“Hugo Chavez ,received a standing ovation at the U.N. after calling Bush the Devil !”
yea hugo is every bit the humanist as ghandi.
it might shock you to find that a majrotiy of americans, including democratic senators and reps, spoke out aginst hugo and his character.
It would suggest a commitment to a belief, followed by the assumption that hugo ain’t such a bad guy. ok…you are standing near the magnetic pole of the left, more power to you.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:57 pmReal Conservative Guy-
I agree with you interpetation. Everything is grey and a measure of degree caught between two ideals. For rational people, at least. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Yet your posts are absolute for the most part. Guess that proves you aren’t rational.
The left blogs are filled with absolutist, who mock bush for his simple(and absolutist) “either you are with us or you are against us†but continue to march to the same tune. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
The left blogs are filled with absolutists – like yourself, and your “either with bush or against him”. You project a lot – has your therapist told you that yet? Oh wait, you don’t go to a therapist do you? You need to.
When you look at the way media is presented, it usually feaures two people with polar views, who represent the moronic and unyielding of both left and right. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Actually the media tends to represent a very far right (Cheney) and a somewhat far right (Lieberman).
but I do disagree with everything else you said though.
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Who cares what you disagree with. You’re just a petulant child that projects your own emotional fears and hatreds “of the left” on the “other side”.
Get over yourself, you’re a useless twit in the real world, just like you are here.
April 10th, 2007 at 2:57 pm3/4 of a million dead people and you want a measure discussion about world politics.Have you no decency ?At what point is enough enough .Have you read my post # 142 , you want to politely discuss Naziism with Hitlers supporters ?The time for niceties has long since passed friend , go ask an Iraqi whose child and husband are laying in pieces about how they feel about our liberating them ,would you think them rude if they spat in your face ?
April 10th, 2007 at 2:57 pmDo you think were succeeding in winning hearts and minds with the slaughter of so many innocents by people in the oil industry who have been pushing for leagalcontrol of Iraqi rsources? Al Sadar apparently doesn’t approve and I suspect with his pronouncement of allout war against the American occupiers we haven’t begun to see the damage to come from the presidents surge !
If the provision was asked that ‘he who has not sinned cast the first stone’, I have little doubt that everyone who participated would have felt it their honor to be first to cast.
Quite impossible to mollify a crowd driven by fevered beliefs to commit an act of aggression. I hope for an escalation of the indulgence, if only to serve as an embarassment for the few moderates who remain.
Comment by paul
Admirable sentiments; now, how do you feel about the “roughing up” some anti-war demonstrators recieved at the hands of Freepers at the last anti-war rally in Washington. You’re right; it was quite impossible to mollify these pro-war folks, who ripped signs out of the hands of protestors, while screaming at them. Do you condemn their acts as well? Or is your outrage confined to the anti-war ruffians?
April 10th, 2007 at 3:00 pmAs a free-thinking American and someone who loves this country, I have to make a couple of comments.
It saddens me deeply that we have come to the point where the discourse is laden with foul language and accusations. There are few logical arguments about the issues here or especially on the “news†channels. Our political system has becomme a rotten game of one-upmanship in which everyone loses because nobody learns.
Comment by Real Conservative Guy — April 10, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Tell me, what political party rose to power on one-umpanships and divisive politics? If you are a conservative, you aren’t free-thinking, those are mutually exclusive concepts. If you hate illogical arguments, you also aren’t a conservative. Conservatism is about avoiding change, and holding onto traditions, habits and attitudes even when illogical.
As stated earlier, I am a lifelong conservative; however, I do not hate all liberal thinking, and I do not hate liberals. I respect opposing viewpoints and am willing to listen, argue my points, and *gasp* occasionally change my mind. Comment by Real Conservative Guy — April 10, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
If you have an open mind, that makes you a *liberal* – ironic huh?
April 10th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWent to his blog – don’t bother posting your opinion on it as it is heavily moderated (ie “censored”) by GOP SS. It will be yanked before it is “published”
April 10th, 2007 at 3:01 pmpaul and Real Conservative Guy,
“MODERATION” doesn’t work…
…when one is dealing with…
…SATAN…
…unless you’ve been in a cave for the last six years…
…you realize that we are dealing with a DEMONIC regime occupying our government…
…you want “MODERATION”…
…in fighting TREASON, corruption, economic and military terror, racism, sexism, homophobia, hegemony, imperialism, and TREASON…
….John Kerry tried that, Al Gore tried that, hell John mcCain (before he became bewitched) had tried it…
…and they ALL got politically SMOKED!
…until America brings Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rummy, Wolfie, Kristol, AIPAC, PNAC and all of the corporate co-conspirators to JUSTICE…
…FU*K “MODERATION”….
April 10th, 2007 at 3:04 pmSubmtted to Cantor:
April 10th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Yet your posts are absolute for the most part.
got an example?
“You’re just a petulant child that projects your own emotional fears and hatreds…”
how does one respond to being called a child by
“ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus”? I’m at a loss.
projecting would mean the condition exists in me, and I share it and aggravate it in you. Actually I’m exploiting your emotional involvement and atagonizing you, like pulling the legs of a daddy long legs, thinking ‘god you ain’t going anywhere, but do you even know it for all the flailing you do?’
please give a list again of bush transgressions, so I can watch the flailing, directionless libs.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:06 pmIf you have an open mind, that makes you a *liberal* – ironic huh?
once, it was true. Civil rights movement was probably the high water mark of liberalism-
an added irony, becuase it featured a democratic president taking an aggressive stand against nuclear proliferation, cutting taxes, and embarking on a foreign war.
The two he was right on, almost make up for the one he was wrong on.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:13 pmI’m not sure if this was directed at me, but either way I’d like to address it. I’m not suggesting that we should not have fervent beliefs and that we should not back them up with real arguments. Your post is a decent, albeit emotionally charged and arguably overstated, argument, and I appreciate it.
To put it succinctly, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Many have obviously forgotten or ignore the fact that the beginning of the war in Iraq had wide bipartisan support. Both sides did see the same intelligence. Years later, it is obviously a quagmire. To Bush’s point, if anyone can get out of it, our military can. But, to paraphrase many detractors, what’s the point of finishing this job?
I don’t know what history is going to tell us about the war, but my best guess is that we’ll be there until a Democrat takes office (I can’t imagine a Republican presidential victory in ‘08), then we will withdraw. Various groups in Iraq will try to continue and establish a freely elected, while not secular, government. Outside influences and internal clanism will result in factious fighting and a downward spiral into turmoil. America and other developed countries will gladly sell arms to whoever can afford to buy them, and we will have a new Afghanistan on our hands…a country that’s not much more than a bunch of clans as opposed to a society. Will it result in world war 3 or imminent threats to Americans via terrorism? I do not believe so. However, like it or not, we rely heavily on oil, and we will for several more years regardless of our level of investment in alternatives. That’s the problem I do not know how to solve. I am open to ideas.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:15 pmBush’s failings:
“I will restore honor and integrity to the White House”
April 10th, 2007 at 3:16 pmNo decision on Yucca Mountain until research results are available
Free trade
“I’m a compassionate conservative”
“Leave no child behind”
“I’m a uniter, not a divider”
“President of all the people, not just those who voted for me”
“A reformer with results”
“It’s the people’s money, not the government’s”
Election reform
Reforming the military
Treason ,High crimes and misdemeanors ,torture , premeditated war against a country absolutely un involved in 911 by people who signed their names to documents that stated the real reasons for that war pre 911 , which had nothing to do with domocracy or terrorism and everything to do with oil !Domestic spying on 100’s of 1000’s of American citizens by people who sworw to up hold the constitution some time after they broad cast they’re desireto rtewrite it .Private armies recieving billions and operating on American soil.The end of such basic rights as Habeas corpus for any citizen declared undesirable by a man who probably was never legitimately elected by the American people ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
April 10th, 2007 at 3:20 pmThis is what I will try to have posted on his comments page, let’s see how it turns out:
Mr. Cantor,
Instead of constantly maligning the Democrats with baseless lies, why don’t you and your fellow Republicans try a new approach? How about trying to REALLY reach across the aisle and create some new and innovative ideas on how to end the war in Iraq? Think about the legacy this war is leaving for our children.
I wonder how this will turn out….
April 10th, 2007 at 3:22 pmonce, it was true. Civil rights movement was probably the high water mark of liberalism- Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Which is why you Conservatives are still fighting it. It’s also how you managed to turn a bunch of scared white southern religious bigots to GOP sheeple.
an added irony, becuase it featured a democratic president taking an aggressive stand against nuclear proliferation, cutting taxes, and embarking on a foreign war. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Who said democrats were perfect? The difference is that we learn from our mistakes, and history, you just keep repeating the same mistakes in the delusion that you’ll get different results next time.
The two he was right on, almost make up for the one he was wrong on. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
What was he wrong on again?
April 10th, 2007 at 3:23 pmYet your posts are absolute for the most part.
got an example? Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Practically every post. Heck the one that follows this one includes a nice example of your ABSOLUTE FILLED JUDGEMENT.
“You’re just a petulant child that projects your own emotional fears and hatreds…â€
how does one respond to being called a child by
“ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus� I’m at a loss. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
A child usually is at a loss, until they grow up, and learn personal responsibility.
projecting would mean the condition exists in me, and I share it and aggravate it in you. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Actually that’s more projection. Projection means you SEE it in others, it doesn’t mean you SHARE it with others. Buy a dictionary – dum bass.
Actually I’m exploiting your emotional involvement and atagonizing you, like pulling the legs of a daddy long legs, thinking ‘god you ain’t going anywhere, but do you even know it for all the flailing you do?’ Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Actually your projecting your own emotional involvement, and attempting to antagonize others based on your own fears and insecurities while flailing yourself out of your own inadequacies. Unfortunately those are the same inadequacies that make it impossible for you to see that only you are the one getting picked apart, like a trapped insect.
please give a list again of bush transgressions, so I can watch the flailing, directionless libs. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Please find somewhere else to avoid your personal psychosis, so we can avoid watching your flailing, directionless trolling. Ok, son?
April 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pmPlease offer a polite argument to that !Your complacency in the face of so many crimes is staggering .Perhaps you weren’t aware of these things but if you want to be an apologist for the worst fascists since Hitler look to your soul , if you still have one !
April 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pmCG, you have a rational view. With those same eyes couldn’t you look at the reasons why we entered Iraq and then look at the logistics employed. Look at the fierce words used to get all to believe the conflict was needed and look at the missmangegement and poor execution on completing the tasks.
Iraq was clans for hundreds of years before the British and US decided to divide up the area last century. That wasn’t looked at by this administration.
Ask if there is a need to have gone into this land? What was the expected outcome? Talk of Oil and democracy was the dream but what effort was put into it? There was no doubt we’d beat a 3rd world army. There’s great doubt in how this administration plans to move forward.
Slogan’s don’t cut it anymore.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pmif a conservative wins in 08, do you guys just scrap this stuff and move onto the next guy, or will you stay behind chasing your pipedreams?
given pelosi’s two week break, it would appear most of your work and beliefs are going to fall by the wayside.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pmeric cantor – chief deputy dipshit…
April 10th, 2007 at 3:30 pmThey deleted my comments. I kind of thought they would. Typical censorship.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:31 pm58k is a shining failure, especially when you watch the last chopper out of saigon.
not adjusting for population, it would seem bush still has 54k to go, or at our given pace, 72 more years.
Just putting collossal failures in perspective.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:32 pmPlease follow the link in the article, and post your comments on Mr. Cantor’s site. I think that the way that the news media has continued to lie and spin Ms. Pelosi’s trip looks like an orchestrated campaign by the Rove machine. It doesn’t seem to have unfolded naturally like Imus’s derision of excellent college athletes.
People have been quoting Fred Hiatt’s piece in the Washington Post, that was full of errors and nothing but a partisan hit-job. Then, after that was printed, it gave the rest of the media permission to state over and over again that the Pelosi trip was a “mistake”, “bad behavior” (something Dick Cheney ought to know about, or a disaster.
I hope I’m wrong, but I have a gut feeling that this would not have happened, or at least to this extent, if Pelosi was a man. I mean, Suzanne Malveaux, on CNN stated that for Pelosi to visit Syria, “wasn’t it like planting a big wet one” on Syria’s leader? Can you see saying that to Orin Hatch?
Here’s my comment on the Cantor web site. Thanks, TP, for bringing this to our attention and for providing us with the facts.
“These five Republicans also “broke bread†with Assad last week: Reps. Frank Wolf, Joseph Pitts, Robert Aderholt, David Hobson, and Darrell Issa. There has been no criticism of them or of Newt Gingrich who, while House Speaker, went to the Orient and declared that the U.S. would do anything to defend Taiwan. Then, he traveled to Israel and declared Jerusalem to be the official capital of Israel. Newt had to later apologize for his remarks.
“New Gingrich was actually running a “shadow presidency”. There has been no one to go on the trip with Pelosi, Republican or Democrat alike, that has criticized her methods, or her message. She supported the Bush White House’s message that Syria has to stop supporting Hezbollah if they want to talk peace with Israel. Nancy Pelosi was briefed by the White House before she left.
“I hate to be cynical, but it seems like you already knew these things to be true when you posted your article here. Is firing up the Republican base only accomplished by lies and manipulation? Can’t you encourage your constituents to get behind you because of all the good things you’ve done?”
April 10th, 2007 at 3:33 pmif a conservative wins in 08, do you guys just scrap this stuff and move onto the next guy, or will you stay behind chasing your pipedreams? Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
If a liberal wins in 08, do you guys just scrap this stuff and move onto the next guy, or will stay behind chasing your pipedreams?
given pelosi’s two week break, it would appear most of your work and beliefs are going to fall by the wayside. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Given Bush’s vacation to Crawford, it would appear most of your work and beliefs are going to fall by the wayside.
You’re a stupid child paul.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:33 pmThey sure scrubbed my post there fast…”You are nothing more than a republican hack, period. The republicans have zero credibility at all on any issue what-so-ever. (first post ever here on TP)
And by the way why do you guys respond to the idiot trolls here, I have read some of the crap they spew here, and really I can just see that they are total morons, and probably some of the most hateful repukes I have ever seen on blog sites.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:34 pmEarlier I submitted a comment to Rep. Cantor’s blog. Unfortunately, I didn’t save a copy of my original comment. The moderator edited it significantly. Below is the edited comment followed by my response to that edit. From now on I will save copies of my comments because I think what they did is outrageous. They basically removed all my attempts to ask about logical inconsistencies in Rep. Cantor’s statement.
kso Says:
April 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
With the goal of engaging in ‘genuine political dialogue’, could you please clarify your statements above: first, how exactly is this a ‘diplomatic disaster’?
Second, how exactly did she misrepresent Israel’s position? I have yet to see specifics on this.
I would greatly appreciate clarification and specifics on these topics, because the sweeping generalities you used above don’t help us engage in genuine dialogue.
My response to the edit:
I just checked in on my comment and noticed it had been edited quite a bit. Removed was a question about Gingrich’s 1997 China trip, referenced in my first question, a question about whether the Congressman also believes Congressman Pitt’s (R) delegation misrepresented Israel’s position (Pitts says they delivered similar messages), referenced in my second question, and my entire third question, which referred to the prior knowledge President Bush and the State Department had about the trip.
Congressman Cantor, can you address these questions? And also, why did you or your staff remove them from my comment?
April 10th, 2007 at 3:35 pmThen of course there are a few decent conservatives that are circulating this in conress.
Conservatives for the Constitution: End the use of military commissions to prosecute crimes.
• Prohibit the use of secret evidence or evidence obtained by torture.
• Prohibit the detention of American citizens as enemy combatants without proof.
• Restore habeas corpus for alleged alien combatants.
• End National Security Agency warrantless wiretapping.
• Empower Congress to challenge presidential signing statements.
• Bar executive use of the state secret privilege to deny justice.
• Prohibit the President from collaborating with foreign governments to kidnap, detain of torture persons abroad.
• Amend the Espionage Act to permit journalists to report on classified national security matters without threat of persecution.
• Prohibit of the labeling of groups or individuals in the U.S. as global terrorists based on secret evidence
April 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pm58k is a shining failure, especially when you watch the last chopper out of saigon.
not adjusting for population, it would seem bush still has 54k to go, or at our given pace, 72 more years.
Just putting collossal failures in perspective.
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
In saigon, they couldn’t use medical miracles to save people that are brain damaged for life. You aren’t counting the tens of thousands of physically and mentally wounded soldiers leaving Iraq. You also haven’t accounted for the fact that the COUNTRY is as against Iraq now, as they were Vietnam when we pulled out.
Just putting failures in perspective, it took Bush only 4 years to turn America against him, compared to how many in Vietnam? He sure fails quickly – much like you and your posts!
I’ve seen gradeschoolers who are more articulate and better debaters than you are, little boy.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:37 pmHellinabucket -
Excellent points. I do agree that we rushed into a war that was not necessary. It is also true that it did appear necessary and rational to many people of many viewpoints at the time. The unwillingness of many to admit it was a mistake (or even consider that it may have been a mistake, which is almost worse) baffles me.
The discussion I was hoping to have is: How do we get out? I’m not sure. Honestly. And I’m seeking opinions / thoughts / history lessons from a liberal forum / point of view. I know what the administration thinks, but I do not blindly follow their talking points.
I don’t want to argue world views here: I’m outnumbered, and I don’t pretend to have the power to change anyone’s mind. Just seeking information and alternative viewpoints. I will argue if I disagree, but I’m sure I’ll learn something along the way.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:38 pmMr. Cantor is restricting negative comments to his blog. I tried three times to post, the last being a quote from NY Times article and each was rejected.
Most of the posts are negative. I guess they are trying to avoid overload. Maybe I’ll just call.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:39 pmYou think you would revel in Bush taking time away from working the reichstaag, but would be anxious for Pelosi to return to try the ‘criminal’.
Instead you miss him when he isn’t front and center, and deny the appearance of a lack of any form of motivation by the dems to pursue your complaints.
“You’re a stupid child paul.”
you caught me, I am rather childish. the ’stupid’ plays off my own insecurity of not knowing if my beliefs are not supported by facts and need to question my own perceptions.
I wish I were as smart as you ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus.
I’m getting redy to cut and run, the market shuts down @ 4, and I’m gone. Get in your last shots.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:43 pmWith so many crimes to choose from your right to address no real arguments to anything of substance posted here Paul ! In the face of such overwhelming evidence you might as well just continue ignoring the issues and call the outrage impolite and uncivilized ,it’s easier than refuting the obvious !
April 10th, 2007 at 3:47 pmYes you can annoy those who oppose the destruction of our democracy ,what ever that does for you, but you’ll convince no one of your perspective ,if you actually have one .
Now that I think about it, this forum is geared towards Cantor I suppose. If you could direct me to a place where I could read about this, I’ll gladly stop hijacking this one.
Pardon the “forum newbie” that is me. I got drawn in.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:52 pmkso says:
“Earlier I submitted a comment to Rep. Cantor’s blog. Unfortunately, I didn’t save a copy of my original comment. The moderator edited it significantly.”
kso, I made similar points in my comments, and I am sure that they will edit my comments too. It shows that they are not really after real discourse on the matter. Instead, it is just Democrat-bashing, just like that which takes place by trolls on a countless number of progressive blogs. In this case, the troll happens to be a member of Congress.
At least we are keeping their Rovian editors busy!
April 10th, 2007 at 3:53 pmIn saigon, they couldn’t use medical miracles to save people that are brain damaged for life.
the 58k was just in regard to dead. If you wish to include the amputees and brain damaged, the numbers are still overwhelming when camparing Vietnam to Iraq.
In you belief system, they must be at least equivalent, with Iraq on the edge of ecllipsing the tragedy of Vietnam.
“I’ve seen gradeschoolers who are more articulate and better debaters than you are, little boy.”
by ’seen’ do you mean ‘dated’?
what’s with the little too? what If I am vertically challenged?
is size indicitive on intelligence?
uh oh, 4 oclock whistle. you win…
April 10th, 2007 at 3:53 pmCG, I apprecieate your sincere view and honest questions. How do we get out? The question of “What do we want to get out of this?” should be asked.
If we look at the guidelines of what gave bush the authority to use force we can see that the WMD’s and Saddam have already been taken care of. The Al Qiada threat is mostly in Pakistan and not from Iraq as our own military reports recently show. We’ve already largely achieved what we set out to do so it can be argued we could leave now. Of course the country is in shambles and we are responsible.
The answer is not militarily and I don’t believe the answer should come from the one’s who created this mess
I don’t have the answers. But I don’t want to give Bush and this administration any more shots at trying to get the answers. Billions have been wasted with Corporations racking in profits while sewage runs in the streets.
The Democrats are now standing up to an administration that has had a free pass. We can’t turn back the clock but we can demand the clock be watched from now on.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:54 pmMr. Cantor is restricting negative comments to his blog. I tried three times to post, the last being a quote from NY Times article and each was rejected.
Comment by Got Kids — April 10, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
GK: I just posted the following at his blog, and it went up; keep trying, folks! -Zippy
“Hey Rep. Cantor — here’s one Virginian willing to step up and call you out for the moron that you obviously are. You’ve obviously overlooked the fact that your fellow Virginia congressman, Rep. Frank Wolf, ALSO accompanied Speaker Pelosi on her mission to Syria to open a dialogue. So I find it incredibly hard to believe that “most of the Virginians” that you’ve spoken to agree that Speaker Pelosi’s mission resulted in her “being taken in by a Syrian terrorist” — unless you’ve spoken only to yourself and the other personalities inhabiting your shell of a body, and a few Virginia-based Swift Boaters. Next time, try talking to your more experienced colleague, Rep. Wolf, before you post hate- and alarmist-filled messages on your blog.
Then again, perhaps you should just keep up the good work — that way, we’ll continue the business of turning Virginia blue by getting rid of you and your Bush-kissing ilk in the next election.”
April 10th, 2007 at 3:58 pmhellinabucket -
I see where you are coming from. Some of the anti-Bush / anti-this-war passion of “the left” / Democrats (I hate to use loaded terms and inspire firebreathing here, but I think you know what I mean) appears to come from taking a look at the last few years and saying “How did we let them get away with this?” Correct me if I’m wrong. But if that’s the case, it makes sense. To make a potentially bad analogy, I’m much angrier if I double-down on a bad investment than if I just get out of it…but either one hurts.
I’m just afraid that if we pull out too quickly or not in some kind of controlled fashion, that there will be a descent into turmoil and a potentially huge impact to our economy (because of our dependence of oil..etc. etc.). My biggest fear is not bombs going off at the mall, it’s a lack of control over a resource which we unfortunately desperately need to fuel our economy.
Thanks for your thoughts!
And again, if we should take this discussion somewhere else, we can!
April 10th, 2007 at 4:05 pmOutside influences and internal clanism will result in factious fighting and a downward spiral into turmoil. America and other developed countries will gladly sell arms to whoever can afford to buy them, and we will have a new Afghanistan on our hands…
However, like it or not, we rely heavily on oil, and we will for several more years regardless of our level of investment in alternatives. That’s the problem I do not know how to solve. I am open to ideas.
Comment by Real Conservative Guy #182
…there have been any number of progressive technologies that have proven to be effective (or at least promising) in curing our energy ills…
…solar, hydrogen, agri-by products (sugar cane, corn, hemp), elctric /hybrids…
…but like the Tucker…
…the auto industry and oil barons have stifled their serious development…
…Oil wouldn’t be such a problem if the criminal bankers and their hegemonic political and military “enforcers”…
…weren’t so greedy,corrupt,cruel,arrogant,and murderous…
…the people of the world know SATAN and his minions when they see him/them…
…and they are in the process of destroying them…
…when the people of Iraq and Afghanistan regain their sovereignty (like Vietnam/Cambodia) it will be necessary for them to rid themselves of THEIR TRAITORS…
…but things will settle down eventually when the people have had THEIR fill of bloodshed…
…Strong, wise, respectful, knowledgeable leadership in OUR White House will go a long way towards mending fences around the world…
…hopefully the new President (NOT a REPULSIVESCUM,and perhaps NOT even a white male)….
…will be able to rally the world community around helping to stabilize the ME by pressuring Israel to settle for peace,and rebuilding (reinstituting trade with Palestine, NK, Cuba, Venezuela, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebannon) and ALL countries whom the current regime has managed to alienate/enrage…
…but the very ideology of right wing “CONNED”self-serving”, “starving the beast”,”we need to be dictated to every minute on moral issues by hypocrites”,”let’s hate anybody and everything that doesn’t look, think, or act like us” mentality …
…has to be thoroughly and decisively defeated if this Democracy is to survive…
April 10th, 2007 at 4:06 pmthe 58k was just in regard to dead. If you wish to include the amputees and brain damaged, the numbers are still overwhelming when camparing Vietnam to Iraq.
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
The Iraq war is worst then Vietnam because the Bush created an environment where more people want to kill us, destroyed any chance of peace in the Middle East, alienated most of our allies and pushed the credibility of the United States into the toilet.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:07 pmInstead you miss him when he isn’t front and center, and deny the appearance of a lack of any form of motivation by the dems to pursue your complaints.
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
It’s a tragedy. The Dems won’t even attempt to remove a war criminal.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:11 pmIn you belief system, they must be at least equivalent, with Iraq on the edge of ecllipsing the tragedy of Vietnam. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
The Vietnam war claimed what, 1.7 Million lives, Iraq Version 2 has claimed 600k lives. Iraq is the Vietnam of our generation, whether you like it, and continue to deny it or not.
by ’seen’ do you mean ‘dated’? Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Ah. more projection from the rightwing molesting crowd. Were you one of Foley’s pages, or what, sicko?
what’s with the little too? what If I am vertically challenged?
is size indicitive on intelligence?
uh oh, 4 oclock whistle. you win…
Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
You’re mentally, emotionally, and maturity challenged, young child. As for your *height*, sensitive about that as well? Figures. Little *man* syndrome is often a compensation for feeling inadequate in the larger world. It would *fit* your bantering and blustering efforts to grasp a more *masculine* place in the world.
As for your statement about *you win…*, wow, how *gracious* of you to make such a *passive-aggressive* response.
See the problem with whack jobs like you, is that you don’t realize that when I win, we both do, but when you win, everyone loses. That’s the problem with an inadequate and immature philosophy like yours. You’re too *stunted* in your development to realize you’re just acting out in a self destructive state of denial, rejection and fear. I *pray* for your personal growth son. Maybe someday you’ll not be such a self absorbed, obnoxious and arrogant little twit. Then again, the more likely case is that you’ll die bitter, hated by your own family, and wondering why your life was so unsatisfying – just like your time on this blog.
In the meantime, I rather enjoyed sh*tt*ng on you – I hope you liked being sh*t on ;)
April 10th, 2007 at 4:15 pmThe medical advances since vietnam are astounding. Also, the forms of media have evloved. Comparing Viet nam and Iraq isn’t fair to either. Why do we have to wait for the ignorance of this administration to catch up with Nixon.
One could make an argument that this administration has surpassed the Nixon administration.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI also tried several times to post. All were civil, if not necessarily flattering to Mr. Cantor. Just disappeared. *Sigh* It is not surprising that a supression of free speech (civilized discourse, I might add) from a republican who ASKS for comments has happened. I mean, what were we thinking? That the people would actually be heard? That it matters what the American people really think? That our words wouldn’t be misused to further a hateful cause?
April 10th, 2007 at 4:16 pmPshaw…
You think you would revel in Bush taking time away from working the reichstaag, but would be anxious for Pelosi to return to try the ‘criminal’. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
We are, unfortunately we need more votes in the Senate to make it stick. See, we’re *realists* about the state of things – you however, aren’t.
Instead you miss him when he isn’t front and center, and deny the appearance of a lack of any form of motivation by the dems to pursue your complaints. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Wow, just when you don’t think paul can get any more st*pid, he proves you wrong. Actually the dems are pursuing most of our complaints, or have you missed all of the subpoenas lately?
“You’re a stupid child paul.â€
you caught me, I am rather childish. the ’stupid’ plays off my own insecurity of not knowing if my beliefs are not supported by facts and need to question my own perceptions. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Yep, that’s correct. The only *honest* thing you’ve said, even if it was *sardonic* in nature.
I wish I were as smart as you ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
I wish you were too. Unfortunately for the world, you are not.
I’m getting redy to cut and run, the market shuts down @ 4, and I’m gone. Get in your last shots. Comment by paul — April 10, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
So you’re *wasting* your employer’s money blogging? yeah, you’re definitely a republican.
My last *shots*? Why do YOU need to be here for me to get in my shots? I can get them in whenever I choose, idiot. See the *tubes* let me post anytime, not just when you’re here on your employer’s dime pretending to read and respond to them.
Were you always this dum, or did the priest fry your brain, when he drilled your *ss?
April 10th, 2007 at 4:20 pmAfter Cantor, go ask Hobson why he’s too chicken to support the trip in which he personally participated. What a scum he is for leaving Pelosi in the line of fire of the GOP smear squad. He should be making a public statement; apparently he’s a spineless little piece of fuck, even lacking the conviction to defend his own actions.
What a loser.
Where did you go, Joe DiMaggio?
April 10th, 2007 at 4:21 pmCantor has no shame. I mean first he goes and asks Pelosi to go easy on the Re-thugs in January, now he goes and does this. Sick.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:24 pmIt’s more than that. The same way they trot out a Michelle Malkin, or an Ann Coulter, to throw red meat rhetoric out there that, say, a “respected” member of the MSM, like Robert Novak or David Broder cannot say… they additionally use a 3rd-tier, back bench politician (who they know will never amount to dog crap, in the great scheme of things) to speak what a Republican presidential candidate or the Senate minority leader cannot possibly speak.
The effect is twofold: sure, it fluffs the backwash. But more importantly, IT MOVES THE BAR FOR ACCEPTABLE DISCOURSE, ‘WAY, ‘WAY TO THE RIGHT.
Thus, the “centrist” (ycch!) MSM story of Nancy Pelosi is not that she and her fellow Republican and Democratic congresspersons made overtures for Middle East peace.
The middle ground of the story thus becomes, “Is Nancy Pelosi just an idiot, or is she a traitor?” Because the far right wall of that frame has been busted out and moved so radically to the right, that the right side of the frame is now whether she should get the death penalty, or not.
Classic Rove. These people MUST GO.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:27 pmSurprise! My post was also removed from “Congressman” Cantor’s site. I don’t think he likes liberals. ;)
Here is a copy:
Rep. Cantor,
After the failed 109th don’t you and your colleagues have more important issues to address than starting partisan smear campaigns? A good suggestion would be to work with the 110th so that we can get this country back on track. Remember Congressman Cantor, it’s country BEFORE party.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:27 pmHis office in DC is answering the phone. I just called and advised that such scurilous comments motivate democrats to open their wallets and contribute to his next challenger and that he might want to revise his comments on Nancy Pelosi. Everyone needs to call and flood his office with calls.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:28 pmbigpapa – (sorry…my company supports an old browser and I cannot directly quote anyone) –
RE: “…but the very ideology of right wing “CONNED etc.”
You make some excellent points such as having a respectful White House going a long way towards mending fences. I agree. And I truly hope that God wills us to replace oil as the driving energy source for our economy. I fully support continued, heavy, long-term investment in alternatives. If we hose the oil companies along the way, so be it. The thousands of people who lose their jobs will easily find others in a cleaner, more efficient economy.
I’m out of time…duty calls here at work right now…thanks for the feedback/thoughts.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:51 pmThat’s down right Cheeky TAS. I like it.
April 10th, 2007 at 4:52 pmamazing.
Now my first post, which was heavily edited by Cantor’s team, has been removed altogether. Needless to say, they never posted my second comment. Both of my comments were polite, rational, and pointed out logical inconsistencies I’d hoped he’d address.
Yup, he is really interested in ‘genuine political discourse’ all right…
April 10th, 2007 at 5:17 pmThanks TP for the link – here’s a copy of the e-m I sent:
Thank you, Rep Cantor!! Never known for their intestinal fortitude, liberals and socialist progressives would have us abandon our ally, Israel. It’sa interesting the only religion most on the Left seem to defend is the “Religion of Peace†AKA: Islam……The recommendation of the Iraq Study group did NOT instruct Speaker Pelosi, known for her outspoken opposition to anything the Bush administration touts, to go and mangle foreign policy.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:23 pmToo bad that Republican Congresspeople won’t let all comments stand. No, they need to skew the comments by deleting the vast majority that don’t agree with position. Why do they hate free speech so much? How typical of this politically and morally bankrupted Party.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:26 pmThey removed my post. I was not rude. My comments were appropriate for public posting. Seems Mr. Cantor cannot take the heat.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:27 pmMy slam to Candor and the Republican Party was deleted. Reality is a bitch when you are in the reichwing.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:35 pmbig papa,
April 10th, 2007 at 5:39 pm“Saddamized:” that’s a good one! Do you mind if I use it occasionally vis-a-vis our Repuke “buddies?”
My post was on his site actually a very polite rebuttal, but was removed anyways.
If your intention was to make a misleading attack in the first place, I’m sure you have no interest in hearing the truth.
He can have his tiny number of agreeing posts. Sit and preach to the converted all day Mr. Cantor, but the truth is, you won’t win ANY centrists or independents with those kind of tactics. Don’t forget, nobody thought Jim Webb had a chance against George Allen out in Virginia.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:50 pmI did add a comment to Mr. Cantor’s rant. After I clicked send, I got a prompt that they were holding my message for “moderation.” The message was not published, but my name and e-mail address were left hanging out there. Nice.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:58 pmIt is one thing to have concerns about Pelosi’s visit. This crap by cantor is over the line and an outrage. I am embarrassed that he is my Congressman. I have called his office and protested this article. In my opinion his time would be far better spent in trying to figure out how to win these wars and support our troops.
April 10th, 2007 at 6:45 pmWho the hell is the Minority Whip?
Trent Lott, of course. Nobody’s whipped more minorities than he has.
Comment by Gary Kleppe
As a joke, this is cute and true. But Trent Lott is Minority Whip of the Senate; of the House it’s Roy Blunt.
April 10th, 2007 at 6:47 pmComment by Lora #226
I’d be offended if you didn’t… :-)
April 10th, 2007 at 7:09 pmI have seen this guy on the house floor via C-Span. How he ever got elected is puzzling.
April 10th, 2007 at 7:09 pm(does he look like Henry the chickenhawk?)
I tried to post on the blog twice, in a civil and appropriate manner. Both of my comments were removed.
Rep. Cantor not only does not want dialogue with Syria, he doesn’t want dialogue at all, unless it’s in total agreement with his position, which is in opposition to the will of the American people. Although I will say there are opposition comments on the blog made by those who appear to be men. Perhaps it’s just that he doesn’t want women involved in any dialogue.
Really, the most satisfying thing is that there are only about 25 comments. His little project looks like a flop.
April 10th, 2007 at 7:12 pmI thought the way liberals were whining that the only comments on Rep Cantor’s site were glowing and positive. There were plenty of negative comments – but as many vulgarians here aren’t clear about acceptable discourse….a reason may have existed for your deletions.
Tooodles….
April 10th, 2007 at 7:27 pmNo, valiant venus. That’s not what was said. You might re-read my comment above, for example. And I assure you, my comments were more than civil. I can’t imagine what the procedure is for the selective deletions. In any case, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of support for stopping Speaker Pelosi, so it’s all rather moot.
Ta-ta…..
April 10th, 2007 at 7:36 pmI commented. Reloaded a few times, comment is there but says my comment is waiting for moderator review.
April 10th, 2007 at 7:39 pmCantor deleted my post too!!!!!
It was up for about 15 minutes and then magically disappeared.
I’m beginning to wonder how many posts this guy has really gotten.
Only solution seems to be to call his office and make sure they know that you’re somewhat unhappy. BTW – His rep said that the Republican congressmen in Syria were merely on a personal visit. Since they were on personal holiday, I asked him how the golfing in Syria was.
Here is a copy of my post that was deleted by the fascist Cantor. Seems that the neocons cannot tolerate anybody who disagrees with them. (BTW – this same kind of censorship happens on Redstate and Sister Toljdah among other right wing blogs.)
“Mr Cantor you are truly amazing. But in a very bad way.
You will soon join Mr Bush in well deserved obscurity.
Speaker Pelosi and the other Democrats (and also Republicans) have recognized that you and your President have failed.
You have failed mightily.
You have failed to engage both friends and enemies in any effort to make this world safer.
Your coalition of the willing has become the coalition of the missing as various nations have recognized the bankruptcy of Bush’s policies as well as his complete incompentence.
So, as you enjoy your first and hopefully last term as a congressman, the rest of us can have faith that the majority of Americans have seen through your nonsense and decided that the adults are back in charge.”
April 10th, 2007 at 7:59 pmI find it interesting that Rep. Cantor has either deleted or altered a bunch of posts to his blog after he requested comments. That’s your GOP lawmakers at work. I also wrote a comment about his hypocrisy and how much the GOP and its Dear Leader have hurt the US. My message was also never posted. Could it have been my suggestion that he take a leisurely stroll through a Baghdad market without hundreds of soldiers, Blackhawks, and flak vest? Perhaps. Or is it just the fact that he and his party have no vision or no plan to make our country stronger and more secure. The GOPs only plan is to attack those persons who are working to make America safer and more secure. And to valient venus…Cantor has probably received so many polite and thoughtful negative messages, his moderator had to restrict or delete most of them to help Cantor save a little face. The truth hurts.
April 10th, 2007 at 8:45 pm#234 Vermin Venus’ inability to comprehend the complaints of posters here who had their very civil criticism of Rep. Cantor removed from his blog doesn’t surprise me. It also inspired me finally to take a look at the ones Cantor’s moderator decided to leave on, and here’s what I found from our own resident troll, VV, still posting under her former TP moniker, mighty hypocrite (er. aphrodite):
“mighty aphrodite Says:
April 10th, 2007 at 8:46 pmApril 10th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Thank you, Rep Cantor!! Never known for their intestinal fortitude, liberals and socialist progressives would have us abandon our ally, Israel. It’sa interesting the only religion most on the Left seem to defend is the “Religion of Peace†AKA: Islam……The recommendation of the Iraq Study group did NOT instruct Speaker Pelosi, known for her outspoken opposition to anything the Bush administration touts, to go and mangle foreign policy.”
Cantor doesn’t smear. Nothing he said was factually incorrect. Speaker Pelosi’s trip was a disaster for American foreign policy. She was there to demonstrate her own power–not to investigate for congress.
The republicans that went with her should be equally lampooned. Unfortunately, it seems these republicans were Pelosi’s equivalent of SP’s “operation get behind the darkies.”
April 10th, 2007 at 8:58 pmCantor doesn’t smear. Nothing he said was factually incorrect. Speaker Pelosi’s trip was a disaster for American foreign policy. She was there to demonstrate her own power–not to investigate for congress. Comment by Dems are the party of fear and stupidity — April 10, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
So you defend the smears, by posting your own. What a dum bass.
The republicans that went with her should be equally lampooned. Unfortunately, it seems these republicans were Pelosi’s equivalent of SP’s “operation get behind the darkies.†Comment by Dems are the party of fear and stupidity — April 10, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
Equally lampooned? They weren’t even mentioned, except by democrats. What a racist comment, you’re a st*pid idi*t.
Why don’t you get behind Bush, and give him another reach around Foley.
April 10th, 2007 at 9:21 pmI thought the way liberals were whining that the only comments on Rep Cantor’s site were glowing and positive. Comment by valiant venus — April 10, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
BAHAHAA, that’s so FUNNY, considering how WHINING Cantor and YOUR comments always are! Project much? You st*pid little c*nt?
There were plenty of negative comments – but as many vulgarians here aren’t clear about acceptable discourse….a reason may have existed for your deletions. Tooodles…. Comment by valiant venus — April 10, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Negative comments like yours are always the most funny! You actually post dead baby jokes, call for mass murder, and think others are *vulgarians*, simply because they call you a st*pid c*nt for your hate speech.
Toodles, indeed, because that’s all you are st*pid c*nt, a useless pile of Toodles.
When you *learn* what acceptable discourse is, you’ll learn why you’ve been a st*pid c*nt your whole life. None of us will hold our breaths until that fateful day! After all, it’s rare a st*pid c*nt republican ever recovers from the mental illness known as conservatism. Someone like you is best to simply sideline, marginalize and ignore as yet another dinosaur victim of fascism’s lure of the braindead.
April 10th, 2007 at 9:25 pmThe difference is that unlike the Republicans mentioned, Pelosi (and Kerry) make these trips in order to undermine the President’s foreign policy, not to support it.
Just like Jimmah Cartah.
Comment by Ringo — April 10, 2007 @ 11:45 am
Then those Republicans who accompanied her should be ripping her apart. But they aren’t, are they, Ringo?
April 10th, 2007 at 10:29 pmWait, wait, I get it now. They’re having a contest to see can come across as the biggest horse’s backside possible. This guy? Oooooh, he’s GOOD!
April 11th, 2007 at 12:14 amThe difference is that unlike the Republicans mentioned, Pelosi (and Kerry) make these trips in order to undermine the President’s foreign policy, not to support it.
Just like Jimmah Cartah.
Comment by Ringo — April 10, 2007 @ 11:45 am
Uh? Bush has a foreign policy? Why, that’s like claiming Bush has read a book. The question there is, did he color the pictures before or after reading it?
April 11th, 2007 at 12:18 am“Nothing I fear more than blind obedience. ”
Comment by hellinabucket
Yeeeesssss.….because we see SOOOOOO many original thoughts from Progressives…..
April 11th, 2007 at 12:33 am[sarcasm off]
Yeeeesssss.….because we see SOOOOOO many original thoughts from Progressives…..
[sarcasm off] Comment by valiant venus — April 11, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Yessss…. because CONS are so open to original thoughts….
/sarcasm off
Usually one must visit a meth infested brothel to meet a woman of your qualities – thanks for reminding everyone on here why those places aren’t good tourist destinations. St*pid c*nt.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:01 amLove Letter to Cantor on his blog site:
Your fellow REPUBLICANS, during the SAME WEEK, all met with Assad: Reps. Frank Wolf, Joseph Pitts, Robert Aderholt, David Hobson, and Darrell Issa.
From what I read here-besides you, of course-there are just a couple people stupid enough to ignore these facts. Stupid enough to ignore her delivering a message from Israel. Stupid enough, of course, to ignore ALL the facts which overwhelmingly show the absolute FAILURE of bush’s “policies†in Iraq and the Middle East.
Your blog has become a pivot point for folks giving donations to Virginia Democratic Party http://www.vademocrats.org/. Thank you so much for your ignorant and transparently false, politically motivated “smearing points.†Looking forward to 2008, another member of the 70% majority.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:27 amWhat Iran’s president said about Isreal has also been MODERATED by the 6 companies that own in excess of 90 % of all print , radio and TV in the US ,and is also also becoming obvious to the American people .
I think “mistranslated” is a better word, quite smoothly and intentionally, by the slick propaganda machine of the Zionist media. A more accurate translation of what he said in Arabic was that the “Zionist regime will be erased from the pages of history”.
Its called “sh1t talking”, world leaders do it all the time, and frankly, the guy doesnt have alot of real power in Iran compared to more behind the scenes power brokers. Anyone who knows much about the power structure of that country understands that.
Ha. Check out the Mighty Hermaphrodite Meth Addict Imaginary Military Lawyer Wannabee posting on Cantor’s webpage. I wonder what name (s)he’s hiding under here…
April 11th, 2007 at 3:46 amMy comment on Cantor’s site has disappeared….poof….gone….darn innertubes must not be working….yeah, that’s what happened.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:58 amCantor has created a “distraction” campaign designed to focus attention away from all the White House screw-ups.
Nancy Pelosi showed the guts necessary to be a leader in government: She began a dialogue with Syria.
April 11th, 2007 at 6:17 amMy post disapeared as well. I wonder how many this guy has fabricated in its place. Please continue to post on this guys page
April 11th, 2007 at 10:21 amFor me, the disappearing posts is not the biggest issue. I find it personally offensive and unethical that he altered my post to fit his sleazy message. Pretty shocking, really.
April 11th, 2007 at 10:41 amHere is a post of mine that didn’t make it. I guess it cut a little close to the bone:
Enter Bush Crime Family in your search enigne. I got over 5 millions hits. The Bush family is all about war profitteering, drug running and oil. Cheney, Condoleza and GWB all have more years in experience in the gas and oil industries than they do in public service. And here we are, “promoting Democracy” in Iraq, a nation with the 3rd largest supply of oil on the planet, and with some of the sweetest, most readily profitable crude oil around.
Wake up you dumb a.. numbsculls who still support this regime! They are sending our sons and daughters to die for their profits! Do the reserch yourself and quit getting spoon fed BS by these corporate backed psudo authoritiarin liars! How many more soldiers have to die to protect your misguided integrity.
Pelosi was right to travel to talk to Syria. It’s called diplomacy, something we have got from this all-hat-and-no-steer phoney cowboy you call your president.
Support the troops, end the ongoing lie, the war in Iraq is about oil.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:21 pmFor me, the disappearing posts is not the biggest issue. I find it personally offensive and unethical that he altered my post to fit his sleazy message. Pretty shocking, really.
Comment by People in the Sun
I agree with you except for your last line. Altering the post to change the message to his is definitely worse than deleting it altogether.
April 12th, 2007 at 12:48 amBut “shocking” coming from neoCON-scum? Not really.
I was a Marine in Iraq from ‘04 to ‘05 and the Syrians were a problem. In fact, they wounded a lot of our guys. It is no secret that they were coming in, we had to shift a number of our forces to the North-Western region of Iraq to stop them coming in. One of the hot spots was in Haditha where they were smuggling in small arms and IED materials. My friends who were in Fallujah said Syrians were present there as well, but there were people from other countries too like Chechnya. I disagree with Pelosi and the Republicans for going to Syria, because Syria has long produced much of the chaos in Lebanon. Lebanon is such a unique country for the Middle-East and I hope Syria will leave it alone and let it prosper. Nonetheless, if Pelosi does manage to persuade Assad to peace, then good for her, but I doubt anything will come of it. One more thing, Pelosi covering her head was ridiculous. That is a sign of oppression for women and she knowingly or unknowingly stooped herself down in that little episode. If she goes to Iran I hope she does not repeat that, but instead goes as a free, proud, strong American woman and demonstrates greatness as a female leader and not cowering to Islamic crap.
April 12th, 2007 at 12:54 amLora, I stand corrected. Honestly, I was shocked when I saw they did that, but after a while you think, that’s probably not the worst thing Cantor did that day.
B-Nugget, she was in a mosque. I think we all may have missed that part of the whole head-scarf-ogate. It’s like the Pope going to Israel and wearing a yarmulke near the Wailing Wall. It’s not weakness, it’s respect.
April 12th, 2007 at 2:08 amPeople in the Sun
April 12th, 2007 at 9:11 amBelieve me: I can understand how your heart must have sunk when you saw your own words distorted. I myself am simply no longer that shocked by how low the neoCON scum will sink. (I’m refraining from using the term “Republiscum” sometimes seen on this blog, as my late stepfather was Republican. Actually, I’m quite sure he would no longer be registered in that party any more, for many reasons, such as its current anti-science stance, its pandering to the religious wrong, etc.)
You may also be quite right in writing , “that’s probably not the worst thing Cantor did that day.” Sad, isn’t it?