Comments on: Conservatives begin cracking on Iraq bill. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:48:50 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » Exclusive: White House Held Meeting To Pressure Reporters On ‘Division’ Among War Critics http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3698810 Think Progress » Exclusive: White House Held Meeting To Pressure Reporters On ‘Division’ Among War Critics Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:36:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3698810 [...] In fact, congressional opponents of the war are remarkably united on efforts to set a timeline for redeployment, bolstered by consistent public opinion polls showing broad public support for withdrawal. Meanwhile, conservatives are splintering. This week, a “diverse collection of House Republicans has formed an ad hoc group” to encourage the White House “to compromise on negotiations with Syria and Iran and on setting a date for withdrawal from Iraq.” [...] [...] In fact, congressional opponents of the war are remarkably united on efforts to set a timeline for redeployment, bolstered by consistent public opinion polls showing broad public support for withdrawal. Meanwhile, conservatives are splintering. This week, a “diverse collection of House Republicans has formed an ad hoc group” to encourage the White House “to compromise on negotiations with Syria and Iran and on setting a date for withdrawal from Iraq.” [...]

]]> By: Kate Henry http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3658969 Kate Henry Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:10:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3658969 Of course they are willing to negotiate. They have been reassured by Petraus that the Iraqi's will sign the bill giving 70% of their oil profits to the US and Britain by August (remember the secret meeting Andrea Mitchell blew the cover on). I am willing to bet the farm that once that bill is signed, we will begin withdrawing our combat troops. We will leave enough troops there to guard our newly acquired oil and the "Disneyland" embassy. And, I'm sure that is going to set really well with the Iraqi people. Iraq will be insane to sign that bill. They say they need an infusion of cash to get their oil fields up and running again and that's why they are willing to sell their main natural resource to the US and Britain. They seem to forget the reason why they need the cash to fix their oil fields...it's because we destroyed them. Anyone see a plan here? I sure do. Of course they are willing to negotiate. They have been reassured by Petraus that the Iraqi’s will sign the bill giving 70% of their oil profits to the US and Britain by August (remember the secret meeting Andrea Mitchell blew the cover on). I am willing to bet the farm that once that bill is signed, we will begin withdrawing our combat troops. We will leave enough troops there to guard our newly acquired oil and the “Disneyland” embassy. And, I’m sure that is going to set really well with the Iraqi people. Iraq will be insane to sign that bill. They say they need an infusion of cash to get their oil fields up and running again and that’s why they are willing to sell their main natural resource to the US and Britain. They seem to forget the reason why they need the cash to fix their oil fields…it’s because we destroyed them. Anyone see a plan here? I sure do.

]]> By: Proud Dem http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3657814 Proud Dem Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:48:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3657814 <em>I just don’t know what it will take. People are that stupid - or blind - or brainwashed or what. Comment by Marie </em> Marie, it's all of the above. I just don’t know what it will take. People are that stupid – or blind – or brainwashed or what.

Comment by Marie

Marie, it’s all of the above.

]]> By: Marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3644759 Marlow Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:25:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3644759 Dumya whines and bitches and dishonors the troops by holding their tours of duty hostage to the will of the people: "I'm going to make them suffer if I don't get my way!" Cowardly little ball of smegma... Dumya whines and bitches and dishonors the troops by holding their tours of duty hostage to the will of the people: “I’m going to make them suffer if I don’t get my way!” Cowardly little ball of smegma…

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3643785 big papa Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:59:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3643785 <em>My neighbor is a Conservative and we talk about stuff and as recent polls show he doesn’t care for Bush and wants us out of Iraq. He sees congress as corrupt as I do. My Step-father (conservative) listens to FOX and knows an ex-senator personally and he even calls them crooks.</em> Comment by Zep Tepi #27 <strong>Glad to hear it Zep Tepi, If you could just get them to put some FIRE under those red state Republican Senators and Congresspersons... ...to give the Democrats the 60 vote super majority they'll need... ...to override Bushiva's veto... ...and help IMPEACH, INCARCERATEand IMPOVERISH the Bushitesfor their crimes... ...the country/world would be most gratified...</strong> My neighbor is a Conservative and we talk about stuff and as recent polls show he doesn’t care for Bush and wants us out of Iraq. He sees congress as corrupt as I do. My Step-father (conservative) listens to FOX and knows an ex-senator personally and he even calls them crooks.

Comment by Zep Tepi #27

Glad to hear it Zep Tepi,

If you could just get them to put some FIRE under those red state Republican Senators and Congresspersons…

…to give the Democrats the 60 vote super majority they’ll need…

…to override Bushiva’s veto…

…and help IMPEACH, INCARCERATEand IMPOVERISH the Bushitesfor their crimes…

…the country/world would be most gratified…

]]> By: Zep Tepi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3643123 Zep Tepi Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:39:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3643123 …and they are DESTROYING our country because they HATE Liberal/Progressives, minorities and gay… …more than they love our country! Comment by big papa This pertains, I think, to mostly the younger Limbaugh, Coulter, Oreilly crowd. I live in a very 'Red' state and I can tell you that most people here don't act like Bore or Limbaugh. My neighbor is a Conservative and we talk about stuff and as recent polls show he doesn't care for Bush and wants us out of Iraq. He sees congress as corrupt as I do. My Step-father (conservative) listens to FOX and knows an ex-senator personally and he even calls them crooks. Sure the Trolls we get here are extremely biased but they are a minority and growing smaller. If they didn't have the internet to hide behind they wouldn't talk as they do. BTW the Christians here are mostly like me and not fanatics like Falwell or Robertson or the Hagee Islamic war for apocalypse kooks, in fact more stores sell beer and wine today than just a few years ago =) If they say they are not liberal they are lying lying to themselves, I grew up with them. Heh. …and they are DESTROYING our country because they HATE Liberal/Progressives, minorities and gay…
…more than they love our country!
Comment by big papa

This pertains, I think, to mostly the younger Limbaugh, Coulter, Oreilly crowd. I live in a very ‘Red’ state and I can tell you that most people here don’t act like Bore or Limbaugh. My neighbor is a Conservative and we talk about stuff and as recent polls show he doesn’t care for Bush and wants us out of Iraq. He sees congress as corrupt as I do. My Step-father (conservative) listens to FOX and knows an ex-senator personally and he even calls them crooks.

Sure the Trolls we get here are extremely biased but they are a minority and growing smaller. If they didn’t have the internet to hide behind they wouldn’t talk as they do. BTW the Christians here are mostly like me and not fanatics like Falwell or Robertson or the Hagee Islamic war for apocalypse kooks, in fact more stores sell beer and wine today than just a few years ago =) If they say they are not liberal they are lying lying to themselves, I grew up with them. Heh.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3641630 big papa Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:01:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3641630 <em>I just don’t know what it will take. People are that stupid - or blind - or brainwashed or what.</em> Comment by Marie #22 <strong>Marie, I empathize whole heartedly... ...and thinkit's going to take... ...several hundred dead American soldiers in one fell swoop... ...or some other such catastrophe... ...for their hateful "pride" to be diminished... ...they continue to play Russian Roulette with the lives of these youngsters... ...and sleeping with their frogs... ...but keep the faith Marie...</strong> I just don’t know what it will take. People are that stupid – or blind – or brainwashed or what.

Comment by Marie #22

Marie,

I empathize whole heartedly…

…and thinkit’s going to take…

…several hundred dead American soldiers in one fell swoop…

…or some other such catastrophe…

…for their hateful “pride” to be diminished…

…they continue to play Russian Roulette with the lives of these youngsters…

…and sleeping with their frogs…

…but keep the faith Marie…

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3640342 Zooey Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:22:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3640342 <em>…these are YOUR: family members neighbors friends co-workers …and they are DESTROYING our country because they HATE Liberal/Progressives, minorities and gay… …more than they love our country! Comment by big papa </em> Yes big papa, and my Senators and Representative, as well. Party above country -- every time. It sickens me. …these are YOUR:
family members
neighbors
friends
co-workers
…and they are DESTROYING our country because they HATE Liberal/Progressives, minorities and gay…
…more than they love our country!
Comment by big papa

Yes big papa, and my Senators and Representative, as well.
Party above country — every time.

It sickens me.

]]> By: Zep Tepi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3640338 Zep Tepi Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:20:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3640338 The propaganda - which has been the life blood of the Bush administration - is now meaningless and flat. -Roger I can't believe that it is taking Americans this long to realize the amount of foul bile that is showered over them daily. The media is a powerful tool and people should never be able to use freedom of speech as an excuse to lie intentionally, to sway peoples ideology, to frame words, to create catch phrases and talking points repeated so often it becomes as, but not, the truth. Government is not a food product or a pair of cheap tennis shoes to be marketed to the highest bidder, and those that are on television or radio should KNOW better than to use this medium as a means to empower corruption and help slide complex legislation under the salus populis' nose by creating controvesy and echoing little lies, intentionally, to garner support for a warped political ideology bordering on monarchy and dictatorship. I resent the fact that it takes hundreds of millions of dollars and backing from Corporate America to become the owned leader of this great nation, a system that locks out the common man and the truly best and brightest scholars and critical thnkers we have to offer. Today our Presidents rely on smear campaigns by slippery amoral political hacks. Hacks, Kranks and Shills who have taken a Freedom Operation for Democracy an oppressed people, then morphed it into a war for resources and empire. I resent that we have so many groups of lobbysists that take precedence over the majority who wine and dine our elected officials making them no more than personal pets. I resent FOX, CNN, ABC and ANY media outlet that takes part in such political shennanigans to dupe and mislead our great country into directions some politicians and corporate masters wish to take it for self-serving ends, mega profits and misguided wars. The propaganda – which has been the life blood of the Bush administration – is now meaningless and flat. -Roger

I can’t believe that it is taking Americans this long to realize the amount of foul bile that is showered over them daily. The media is a powerful tool and people should never be able to use freedom of speech as an excuse to lie intentionally, to sway peoples ideology, to frame words, to create catch phrases and talking points repeated so often it becomes as, but not, the truth.

Government is not a food product or a pair of cheap tennis shoes to be marketed to the highest bidder, and those that are on television or radio should KNOW better than to use this medium as a means to empower corruption and help slide complex legislation under the salus populis’ nose by creating controvesy and echoing little lies, intentionally, to garner support for a warped political ideology bordering on monarchy and dictatorship.

I resent the fact that it takes hundreds of millions of dollars and backing from Corporate America to become the owned leader of this great nation, a system that locks out the common man and the truly best and brightest scholars and critical thnkers we have to offer. Today our Presidents rely on smear campaigns by slippery amoral political hacks. Hacks, Kranks and Shills who have taken a Freedom Operation for Democracy an oppressed people, then morphed it into a war for resources and empire.

I resent that we have so many groups of lobbysists that take precedence over the majority who wine and dine our elected officials making them no more than personal pets.

I resent FOX, CNN, ABC and ANY media outlet that takes part in such political shennanigans to dupe and mislead our great country into directions some politicians and corporate masters wish to take it for self-serving ends, mega profits and misguided wars.

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3640025 kasinca Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:05:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3640025 The only hope any Republican, up for re-election in 2008, has to win is to go against this god awful war for oil. The dying must stop now. Pass a bill to draft the first child in every republican family and see how soon they stop this foolishness. This war was lost by the republicans and they will pay for it for a long, long time. Their hope is they can delay long enough to blame it on the democrats who have had no say in government for twelve years. The only hope any Republican, up for re-election in 2008, has to win is to go against this god awful war for oil. The dying must stop now. Pass a bill to draft the first child in every republican family and see how soon they stop this foolishness. This war was lost by the republicans and they will pay for it for a long, long time. Their hope is they can delay long enough to blame it on the democrats who have had no say in government for twelve years.

]]> By: TruthinessOverAll http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3639982 TruthinessOverAll Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:03:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3639982 Blind acceptance and support by the 29%ers is all that is holding this Cabal together. But sanity is beginning to prevail, just too bad for the 3,000+ American dead and 20,000+ wounded, not to mention the 100's of thousands of Iraqi lives and the loss of American support world-wide. All for the ego and profit of a few!! Blind acceptance and support by the 29%ers is all that is holding this Cabal together. But sanity is beginning to prevail, just too bad for the 3,000+ American dead and 20,000+ wounded, not to mention the 100’s of thousands of Iraqi lives and the loss of American support world-wide.

All for the ego and profit of a few!!

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3639665 Marie Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:53:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3639665 We just returned from the annual township meeting where there was a proposal to put the question about leaving Iraq on the ballot -- it failed. Again. We tried it last year too. This is just to put the question on the ballot - not even the actual vote. I just don't know what it will take. People are that stupid - or blind - or brainwashed or what. We just returned from the annual township meeting where there was a proposal to put the question about leaving Iraq on the ballot — it failed. Again. We tried it last year too.
This is just to put the question on the ballot – not even the actual vote.
I just don’t know what it will take. People are that stupid – or blind – or brainwashed or what.

]]> By: Tom3 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3639635 Tom3 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:52:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3639635 Crackers like hillbilly crack...meth. They make it in a trailer. Crackers like hillbilly crack…meth.

They make it in a trailer.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3639454 big papa Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:48:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3639454 <em>If the dems don’t take this chance to not only smack down Bush but to save the nation from the quagmire that is Iraq we will live to regret it.</em> Comment by Roger #15 <strong>...maybe people had better start putting that onus on.. ...the right wing Bushite Republicans... ...who notonly got us into this mess... ...but CONTINUE to obstruct Democratic attempts to get us out of this sh*t! ...the REPULSIVESCUM conned'self-serving inbred TRAITORS... ...are STILL worshipping Bush and L'il Dick... ...and STILL backing their red state inbred Representatives and Senators who are keeping the Democrats from... ...that 60 vote margin they need in the Senate to SOLVE Iraq... ...these are YOUR: family members neighbors friends co-workers ...and they are DESTROYING our country because they HATE Liberal/Progressives, minorities and gay... ...more than they love our country!</strong> If the dems don’t take this chance to not only smack down Bush but to save the nation from the quagmire that is Iraq we will live to regret it.

Comment by Roger #15

…maybe people had better start putting that onus on..

…the right wing Bushite Republicans…

…who notonly got us into this mess…

…but CONTINUE to obstruct Democratic attempts to get us out of this sh*t!

…the REPULSIVESCUM conned’self-serving inbred TRAITORS…

…are STILL worshipping Bush and L’il Dick…

…and STILL backing their red state inbred Representatives and Senators who are keeping the Democrats from…

…that 60 vote margin they need in the Senate to SOLVE Iraq…

…these are YOUR:

family members
neighbors
friends
co-workers

…and they are DESTROYING our country because they HATE Liberal/Progressives, minorities and gay…

…more than they love our country!

]]> By: Namtillaku http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3639340 Namtillaku Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:44:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3639340 Crackers crack. Crackers crack.

]]> By: Ben Dover http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3638953 Ben Dover Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:32:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3638953 What is with those fool Repignicans?? Are they afraid that setting a date will make America lose a police action they have already lost? In the mean time kids keep getting killed daily for no earthly reason other than Bush had some testosterone coursing through his veins and he enjoyed the tough guy feeling it gave him. I hope that if the "christians" are right and there is a heaven and a hell, the exit sign for hell says "all Repignicans exit here" What is with those fool Repignicans?? Are they afraid that setting a date will make America lose a police action they have already lost? In the mean time kids keep getting killed daily for no earthly reason other than Bush had some testosterone coursing through his veins and he enjoyed the tough guy feeling it gave him. I hope that if the “christians” are right and there is a heaven and a hell, the exit sign for hell says “all Repignicans exit here”

]]> By: midwestblue http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3638839 midwestblue Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:28:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3638839 #15. Roger, I agree with every word you wrote: the propaganda IS meaningless and flat. It's starting to wear very thin, very quickly, and the Democrats DO have the upper hand. I just hope they realize it. #15. Roger, I agree with every word you wrote: the propaganda IS meaningless and flat. It’s starting to wear very thin, very quickly, and the Democrats DO have the upper hand. I just hope they realize it.

]]> By: bob (not the hacker) http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3638661 bob (not the hacker) Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:22:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3638661 "If the dems don’t take this chance to not only smack down Bush but to save the nation from the quagmire that is Iraq we will live to regret it." Except for the troops that bush, patrick1, Michael, etal are supporting by sending them to Iraq to get blown up. “If the dems don’t take this chance to not only smack down Bush but to save the nation from the quagmire that is Iraq we will live to regret it.”

Except for the troops that bush, patrick1, Michael, etal are supporting by sending them to Iraq to get blown up.

]]> By: Roger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3638376 Roger Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:13:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3638376 The dems have the stronger position. They have the nation behind them. The propaganda - which has been the life blood of the Bush administration - is now meaningless and flat. If the dems don't take this chance to not only smack down Bush but to save the nation from the quagmire that is Iraq we will live to regret it. The dems have the stronger position. They have the nation behind them. The propaganda – which has been the life blood of the Bush administration – is now meaningless and flat. If the dems don’t take this chance to not only smack down Bush but to save the nation from the quagmire that is Iraq we will live to regret it.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3638373 ForTruth Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:13:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/conservatives-begin-cracking-on-iraq-bill/#comment-3638373 Hadley seems more workable than much of that admin. Do ya think they will tell em' about the new sherrif in town? Hadley seems more workable than much of that admin. Do ya think they will tell em’ about the new sherrif in town?

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