Fred Barnes is a empty headed Ku Klux Klan member. The girls are girls, not victims. Nobody has the right to attack those girls are any other girls. God help the son of a bitch who attack either of my daughters for nothing. God help them.
Yeah Fred Barnes, those girls should just accept being called racist and sexist names. Who do they think they are standing up for themselves? Next thing you know, they’ll be in trouble for kicking a potential rapist in the balls.
THEY WERE VICTIMS, Fred Barnes, YOU FOUR-EYED RACIST F*CK, THEY WERE VICTIMS—-WHAT PART OF THE WORD “VICTIMS” DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND, repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank fudge-pachyderm DIPSHIT??????
This is as much about black racisim as it is about white racisim. Sharpton and Jackson are creeps and are using this to push their own agendas. Didn’t Jackson refer to NY as Jew town? Imus did a bad thing and should be punished, but he should also be recognized for being an outspoken critic of Bush post Katrina and for raising millions for injured soldiers, along with the support he provides kids with cancer. The man is complex as are most of us humans. It appears to me that he and the Rutgers team are being exploited by angry black pundits who have a political agenda and want attention. There is dangerous racisim on all sides that needs to stop.
Barnes added, “I think they make one huge mistake, and that is going to meet with Don Imus. They don’t need to meet with him. They ought to flick him off like a mosquito and move on and be proud, instead of acting as they did today. They acted like victims. They’re winners. They should act like winners.”
While I agree they made a mistake meeting with Imus and should flick him off Imus, as a TV personality should have congratulated them as and treated them as what they are – women.
The current brouhaha is another sideshow to keeps us all distracted from confronting the real issue of who controls political and economic power. And it is one more example of the culture of victimization that has turned the apology into an artform. What did these girls learn from this experience? To savor their weaknesses? To whine and pule when things don’t go just their way? That their feelings are more important than their achievements? We don’t live in a pathetic culture. Bathetic is more like it.
Just need to keep things in perspective and not get caught up in the political agendas of others ie Sharpton and Jackson. This is as much about angry black men wanting to get some press and push their racisit views as it is about a radio hack making a stupid mistake. I’m a loyal dem, but am tired of black anger and jerks like Sharpton and Jackson exploiting others, ie the Rutgers team, for their agenda. Enough! By the way, wasn’t it Jackson who refered to New York as “Jew town.”
I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but it’s embarassing to have Sharpton and Jackson members of the same party. They are angry black political hacks who have no problem exploiting everyone and anyone to push their angry black, anti-white agenda. Mitt Romney is looking better all the time.
What did these girls learn from this experience? To savor their weaknesses? To whine and pule when things don’t go just their way? That their feelings are more important than their achievements? We don’t live in a pathetic culture. Bathetic is more like it.
Comment by Man On The Beach
Excuse me, but Imus called these young women “nappy-headed hos.” What the f*ck do these women need to “learn” from this experience? What weakness are we talking about here? The Rutger women have the right to stick up for themselves.
I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but it’s embarassing to have Sharpton and Jackson members of the same party. They are angry black political hacks who have no problem exploiting everyone and anyone to push their angry black, anti-white agenda. Mitt Romney is looking better all the time.
What did these girls learn from this experience? To savor their weaknesses? To whine and pule when things don’t go just their way?
You know what they learned, you pathetic troll? They learned that no matter how hard they worked. No matter how successful they were they would always be “nappy headed hos” to you bastards.
They learned that no matter how hard they worked. No matter how successful they were they would always be “nappy headed hos†to you bastards.
Comment by JPark
#23 I have been reading crap like what he said was not racist or sexist in any way for two fricking days. It was both and anybody who doesn’t see it is either sexist and/or racist. Where is Hendler?
I think I will give my mom a ring and tell her she is a nappy headed ho. Wanna know how fast I will be disabused of the notion that it is ok to say? These trolls need to get real mothers.
Amazing how much heat Inus is getting for a truly jackass and thoughtless statement…also something of his trademark, being irreverant. I find this all one more distraction, frankly. The words of GW Bush have killed and injured thousands of people…but no one is either firing or suspending him. This kind of media spotlight on a talking head takes our focus away from the real issues here. Inus is not in the government folks, and he’s not spouting hate-talk every day of the week, like the right-wing talking heads: Hannity or Limbaugh or etc. Those people accuse everyone who doesn’t support this war and Bush of treason…a crime punishable by death. Which is the more serious “hate speech?” Let’s get a grip.
They learned that no matter how hard they worked. No matter how successful they were they would always be “nappy headed hos†to you bastards.
Comment by JPark
Thank you for stating that so clearly, JPark.
I’m slightly peeved.
Comment by Zooey — April 10, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
Thank you both for the voices of reason. They also learned that when they graduate the glass ceiling will still be in place to help keep them down.
I just heard about this Imus thing this afternoon, so I’m behind the “pissed off’ curve. People can minimize it all they want, but in the end, Imus crapped all over these young women, and people want to know “what’s the big deal.”
Like you said, JPark, they need to call their moms or sisters and tell ‘em their nappy-headed hos, see how it goes over.
#29 Republicans have had time to get their talking points in order. Amazingly, the first is that ho doesn’t mean what we think it does. It means they are tough. Don’t ask me how they figured that one out. The second is that there is freedom of speech in this country. Sure, there is also freedom to excoriate a moron for using his free speech to advance a racist view. Third, well, other people in the media say worse things. This one I agree with. Coulter, Limbaugh, Weiner, et al. say worse things every day and should lose their jobs as well.
Oh, and nappy headed is not racist, it is just a statement of fact. Their is absolutely nothing loaded about the term. Kinda like black face is just a way to make white actors more realistic when portraying black people. These people are shameless.
Barnes and Kondracke could have just stayed out of it. But they have to explain how if somebody isn’t racist but says racist things it shouldn’t matter. Yeah okay.
Barnes saying the girls are acting like victims is like asking a rape victim what she did to lead the rapist on. Things haven’t changed all that much in the last 50 years apparently in the way white men perceive their authority.
34. I totally agree with your rape victim analogy. Many are too quick to condemn the rape victim for “playing the victim” as they are equally quick to cast blame on her for “asking for it.” Yeah, it’s like telling a rape victim to GET OVER IT! Imagine belittling a rape victim for being “scarred for life.”
Does Fred Barnes have a daughter? How would he like someone on TV/radio calling her a “ho?” Are the Bush girls fair game for the name-calling jokes of Don Imus? No one is ever a victim unless they’re a Republican, it appears.
#15:I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but it’s embarassing to have Sharpton and Jackson members of the same party. They are angry black political hacks who have no problem exploiting everyone and anyone to push their angry black, anti-white agenda. Mitt Romney is looking better all the time.
Comment by John
How ignorant of you, John, you nappy-headed ho! Sharpton and Jackson are not an embarrassment, they are men of faith, decent, hard-working religious leaders who speak openly and honestly about the ills and problems of this great nation. One of the main reasons people around the world had such respect for America is due to the civil rights movement. Sharpton and Jackson had worked tirelessly to ensure that America lives up to its Declaration of Independence, its Constitution, and its Bill of Rights. If America did that, African-Americans and good people of conscience wouldn’t be angry; there’d be no need. Criticizing Don Imus and others of his ilk is not an anti-white pogrom, it’s a necessary national catharsis of an ugly, repulsive wart on America’s soul.
Furthermore, Sharpton and Jackson did go out and round up people to lead this parade. The opposition to and rejection of Imus’ remarks was circulating around cyberspace long before they made their public response. They might be the drum majors for justice now, but the drums of outrage were beating long before the stepped to the front of the parade. I’m glad they chimed in because their participation ensured additional media attention, essential to the eventual removal of Imus from the media stage.
Someone mentioned here that the outrage concerning Imus is a distraction and that we must remain focused on the War in Iraq. We’re adults, not 5-year old kindergarten students: we can and we do focus on more than one thing at a time. I, and others like me, can multitask and do it effectively and efficiently. I’ve posted about this issue as well as Alberto Gonzales, Nancy Pelosi, global warming, and Bush’s childish intransigence concerning the Iraq Accountability Bill. Brick by brick, we must build a better America. Taking steps to rectify the horrors of Don Imus’ hateful racist misogyny doesn’t nullify or disparage our ongoing efforts to end the war in Iraq. Just the opposite. If we can elevate our minds, our discourse, our vision, then we’ll be united and in complete agreement that we have no business occupying Iraq.
As a white American, I wish we would, instead of whining about seeing Sharpton and Jackson all the time, commit ourselves to eradicating the reasons we see them all the time. Then they’d just go away.
But (cynicism alert) for some odd reason (alert off) we just never seem to get past critiquing them instead of hearing their message. It’s a convenient excuse for refusing to hear their message, and never doing anything about their legitimate grievances.
This thinking is akin to a monkey who starves clutching a banana through a hole too small to remove it’s hand while holding it. For your information, we’re all in this thing together. It’s the corporatists who are trying to export all our jobs or import all our labor that foment the hatred among us, to divert our attention from them. Imus is a great big cog in that machine, legitimizing the use racial epithets through his broadcasts for decades. Politicians and pundits attempt to shape public thinking through appearances on his program, adding to his legitimacy.
And spare me the nonsense about rappers using “ho” or “niggaz.” Yes, that is despicable, and it should stop. However, if a friend next door called me “hillbilly” it’d be one thing, but if a stranger of a different color called me that, it’d be taken very differently. And if a stranger of a different color who has a nationally syndicated radio and TV show did that to me, it’d be different by orders of magnitude. There’s no denying that reality.
So until the blessed day Sharpton and Jackson are no longer needed, I say more power to them.
Sharpton and Jackson are doing great damage to this country. They are driving a wedge between those of us who are linked in our opposition to the Bush administration and its policies. Just look at the comment stream on this message board. I am one Independent/Democrat who will never vote for a candidate who gives Sharpton or Jackson any consideration. They and the Neocons are in the same boat as far as I’m concerned. Pox on both their houses.
“I am one Independent/Democrat who will never vote for a candidate who gives Sharpton or Jackson any consideration”
Your hatred of these two individuals trumps everything else, to the point that you extend that to anyone giving them “consideration”?
Of course, this means that the wedge of which you speak is of your own making, not theirs. It’s a wedge you’re actively looking to posess, and it’s a wedge you’re so proud to own you’ll proclaim it publicly here.
That’s your privilege, but please don’t try to blow smoke up my skirt. As far as opposing Bush’s policies, you’d find no two more stalwart allies than these two individuals. So it’s obvious there’s something disingenuous under the surface of your comment.
I watched their news conference and what I saw was a bunch of really smart women acting with restraint and dignity. What would Barnes have rather have them do, get up there and say “Hey, it’s no big deal, we are called hos all the time by our rappers”. I am willing to bet that any self-respecting black woman is just as offended by rappers calling black women hos as they are by Imus doing it.
“Sharpton and Jackson are creeps….” This is such a Republic tactic. You can’t win the argument so change the subject. Blame it on someone else. It’s what I called the “Clinton did it too” syndrome. Shows how good their critical thinking skills are…..NOT!
John @ 44, I think the phrase was “Hymie Town.” It’s deplorable.
Like I told my conservative friends who asked me “where’s your outrage about the beheadings” when I took a strong position against America torturing people in our name: it is possible to be outraged about more than one thing at once.
Imus has made a living out of racist comments. Jackson, out of advocacy. Now if you can cite an entire career of racist comments from Rev. Jackson, there’d be no difference. But if you were to try to do that, I’m afraid you’d have to conflate his advocacy with racism. They are, of course, two different things.
With Sharpton, it’s always “Tawana Brawley … Tawana Brawley …” which was a specific case about a specific individual and specific police officers. He maintains he still believes her. I happen to think think it’s an embarassment for him. But that doesn’t negate his comments about Imus. Don’t forget: Imus approached Sharpton to try to redeem himself.
I’m only trying to point out that unless you’re a wealthy tycoon, what these two advocate the most also benefits you, me, and everyone else who works for a living. I have observed many white folks who interpret their adovcacy as racist, because they mistakenly perceive that it’s their ox that’s being gored. And the propaganda outlets play right into that and trump up the lies to preclude any chance of a meaningful color-blind coalition emerging.
And they have been very successul at it based on some posts here.
And Fred hates that because he would rather be the victime to play that whole reverse-role crap.
April 10th, 2007 at 9:54 pmShut the f*ck up, Fred Barnes, you ignorant ass.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pmFred Barnes is a empty headed Ku Klux Klan member. The girls are girls, not victims. Nobody has the right to attack those girls are any other girls. God help the son of a bitch who attack either of my daughters for nothing. God help them.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pmYeah Fred Barnes, those girls should just accept being called racist and sexist names. Who do they think they are standing up for themselves? Next thing you know, they’ll be in trouble for kicking a potential rapist in the balls.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pmre: #2 YEAH Zooey! :)
the bastards accuse their victims of being victims. So glad that the right wing is finally jumping the shark
April 10th, 2007 at 10:26 pmTHEY WERE VICTIMS, Fred Barnes, YOU FOUR-EYED RACIST F*CK, THEY WERE VICTIMS—-WHAT PART OF THE WORD “VICTIMS” DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND, repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank fudge-pachyderm DIPSHIT??????
April 10th, 2007 at 10:28 pmspeaking of jumping the shark
People are mighty tired of offense all the time……it worked for a while from the mentally ill nazi republican party…..not now
April 10th, 2007 at 10:30 pmThis is as much about black racisim as it is about white racisim. Sharpton and Jackson are creeps and are using this to push their own agendas. Didn’t Jackson refer to NY as Jew town? Imus did a bad thing and should be punished, but he should also be recognized for being an outspoken critic of Bush post Katrina and for raising millions for injured soldiers, along with the support he provides kids with cancer. The man is complex as are most of us humans. It appears to me that he and the Rutgers team are being exploited by angry black pundits who have a political agenda and want attention. There is dangerous racisim on all sides that needs to stop.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:31 pmFred Barnes is quite possibly the most pathetic Bush bootlicking sycophant on the planet.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:31 pmWhile I agree they made a mistake meeting with Imus and should flick him off Imus, as a TV personality should have congratulated them as and treated them as what they are – women.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:31 pmThis is as much about black racisim as it is about white racisim. Sharpton and Jackson are creeps and are using this to push their own agendas.
JRE of course their is. But to use the action of one to excuse the other is a bad habit I have seen the pundits get into. I for one am tired of it.
You may as well have said Clinton lied so it’s okay if Imus called them that.
Really, we need to get over this type of nonconnected blame game.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pmYeah, Fred…right.
“Nappy headed” victims.
What an idiot. Give me a break.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pmThe current brouhaha is another sideshow to keeps us all distracted from confronting the real issue of who controls political and economic power. And it is one more example of the culture of victimization that has turned the apology into an artform. What did these girls learn from this experience? To savor their weaknesses? To whine and pule when things don’t go just their way? That their feelings are more important than their achievements? We don’t live in a pathetic culture. Bathetic is more like it.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:39 pmJust need to keep things in perspective and not get caught up in the political agendas of others ie Sharpton and Jackson. This is as much about angry black men wanting to get some press and push their racisit views as it is about a radio hack making a stupid mistake. I’m a loyal dem, but am tired of black anger and jerks like Sharpton and Jackson exploiting others, ie the Rutgers team, for their agenda. Enough! By the way, wasn’t it Jackson who refered to New York as “Jew town.”
April 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pmI voted for Kerry/Edwards, but it’s embarassing to have Sharpton and Jackson members of the same party. They are angry black political hacks who have no problem exploiting everyone and anyone to push their angry black, anti-white agenda. Mitt Romney is looking better all the time.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:46 pmWhat did these girls learn from this experience? To savor their weaknesses? To whine and pule when things don’t go just their way? That their feelings are more important than their achievements? We don’t live in a pathetic culture. Bathetic is more like it.
Comment by Man On The Beach
Excuse me, but Imus called these young women “nappy-headed hos.” What the f*ck do these women need to “learn” from this experience? What weakness are we talking about here? The Rutger women have the right to stick up for themselves.
Sharpton and Jackson can go f*ck themselves.
Go back to your beach.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:52 pmAnd watch out for the tidal wave… hope you get a sunburn and sand where the sun don’t shine.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:56 pmFred Barnes is a git.
April 10th, 2007 at 10:58 pmI voted for Kerry/Edwards, but it’s embarassing to have Sharpton and Jackson members of the same party. They are angry black political hacks who have no problem exploiting everyone and anyone to push their angry black, anti-white agenda. Mitt Romney is looking better all the time.
Comment by John — April 10, 2007
Smells like a concern troll to me.
-GSD
April 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pmFred likes to slow-roast forest polyps, and place them in his ass.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:08 pm#15 No, you voted for Bush, you pathetic liar.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pmWhat did these girls learn from this experience? To savor their weaknesses? To whine and pule when things don’t go just their way?
You know what they learned, you pathetic troll? They learned that no matter how hard they worked. No matter how successful they were they would always be “nappy headed hos” to you bastards.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:12 pmThey learned that no matter how hard they worked. No matter how successful they were they would always be “nappy headed hos†to you bastards.
Comment by JPark
Thank you for stating that so clearly, JPark.
I’m slightly peeved.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:19 pm#23 I have been reading crap like what he said was not racist or sexist in any way for two fricking days. It was both and anybody who doesn’t see it is either sexist and/or racist. Where is Hendler?
April 10th, 2007 at 11:23 pmRight, and Fred Barnes acted like an idiot.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:24 pmI think I will give my mom a ring and tell her she is a nappy headed ho. Wanna know how fast I will be disabused of the notion that it is ok to say? These trolls need to get real mothers.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:25 pmAmazing how much heat Inus is getting for a truly jackass and thoughtless statement…also something of his trademark, being irreverant. I find this all one more distraction, frankly. The words of GW Bush have killed and injured thousands of people…but no one is either firing or suspending him. This kind of media spotlight on a talking head takes our focus away from the real issues here. Inus is not in the government folks, and he’s not spouting hate-talk every day of the week, like the right-wing talking heads: Hannity or Limbaugh or etc. Those people accuse everyone who doesn’t support this war and Bush of treason…a crime punishable by death. Which is the more serious “hate speech?” Let’s get a grip.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:25 pmThey learned that no matter how hard they worked. No matter how successful they were they would always be “nappy headed hos†to you bastards.
Comment by JPark
Thank you for stating that so clearly, JPark.
I’m slightly peeved.
Comment by Zooey — April 10, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
Thank you both for the voices of reason. They also learned that when they graduate the glass ceiling will still be in place to help keep them down.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:30 pmWhere is Hendler?
Comment by JPark
Probably pissing all over a dead thread. :D
I just heard about this Imus thing this afternoon, so I’m behind the “pissed off’ curve. People can minimize it all they want, but in the end, Imus crapped all over these young women, and people want to know “what’s the big deal.”
Like you said, JPark, they need to call their moms or sisters and tell ‘em their nappy-headed hos, see how it goes over.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:32 pmThey also learned that when they graduate the glass ceiling will still be in place to help keep them down.
Comment by shane
Anybody going to deny the glass ceiling exists?
April 10th, 2007 at 11:34 pm#30 Nope, especially not for double minorities.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:37 pm#29 Republicans have had time to get their talking points in order. Amazingly, the first is that ho doesn’t mean what we think it does. It means they are tough. Don’t ask me how they figured that one out. The second is that there is freedom of speech in this country. Sure, there is also freedom to excoriate a moron for using his free speech to advance a racist view. Third, well, other people in the media say worse things. This one I agree with. Coulter, Limbaugh, Weiner, et al. say worse things every day and should lose their jobs as well.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:41 pmOh, and nappy headed is not racist, it is just a statement of fact. Their is absolutely nothing loaded about the term. Kinda like black face is just a way to make white actors more realistic when portraying black people. These people are shameless.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:42 pmBarnes and Kondracke could have just stayed out of it. But they have to explain how if somebody isn’t racist but says racist things it shouldn’t matter. Yeah okay.
Barnes saying the girls are acting like victims is like asking a rape victim what she did to lead the rapist on. Things haven’t changed all that much in the last 50 years apparently in the way white men perceive their authority.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:05 am#34 Eh, don’t lump all of us white men in with the likes of Barnes, please!!!
April 11th, 2007 at 12:07 am34. I totally agree with your rape victim analogy. Many are too quick to condemn the rape victim for “playing the victim” as they are equally quick to cast blame on her for “asking for it.” Yeah, it’s like telling a rape victim to GET OVER IT! Imagine belittling a rape victim for being “scarred for life.”
April 11th, 2007 at 3:00 amDoes Fred Barnes have a daughter? How would he like someone on TV/radio calling her a “ho?” Are the Bush girls fair game for the name-calling jokes of Don Imus? No one is ever a victim unless they’re a Republican, it appears.
April 11th, 2007 at 7:27 amI couldn’t let this one go by unnoticed:
How ignorant of you, John, you nappy-headed ho! Sharpton and Jackson are not an embarrassment, they are men of faith, decent, hard-working religious leaders who speak openly and honestly about the ills and problems of this great nation. One of the main reasons people around the world had such respect for America is due to the civil rights movement. Sharpton and Jackson had worked tirelessly to ensure that America lives up to its Declaration of Independence, its Constitution, and its Bill of Rights. If America did that, African-Americans and good people of conscience wouldn’t be angry; there’d be no need. Criticizing Don Imus and others of his ilk is not an anti-white pogrom, it’s a necessary national catharsis of an ugly, repulsive wart on America’s soul.
Furthermore, Sharpton and Jackson did go out and round up people to lead this parade. The opposition to and rejection of Imus’ remarks was circulating around cyberspace long before they made their public response. They might be the drum majors for justice now, but the drums of outrage were beating long before the stepped to the front of the parade. I’m glad they chimed in because their participation ensured additional media attention, essential to the eventual removal of Imus from the media stage.
Someone mentioned here that the outrage concerning Imus is a distraction and that we must remain focused on the War in Iraq. We’re adults, not 5-year old kindergarten students: we can and we do focus on more than one thing at a time. I, and others like me, can multitask and do it effectively and efficiently. I’ve posted about this issue as well as Alberto Gonzales, Nancy Pelosi, global warming, and Bush’s childish intransigence concerning the Iraq Accountability Bill. Brick by brick, we must build a better America. Taking steps to rectify the horrors of Don Imus’ hateful racist misogyny doesn’t nullify or disparage our ongoing efforts to end the war in Iraq. Just the opposite. If we can elevate our minds, our discourse, our vision, then we’ll be united and in complete agreement that we have no business occupying Iraq.
April 11th, 2007 at 7:51 amjackson and sharpton are both race pimps. its nothing more than an industry for both of them
April 11th, 2007 at 8:35 amAs a white American, I wish we would, instead of whining about seeing Sharpton and Jackson all the time, commit ourselves to eradicating the reasons we see them all the time. Then they’d just go away.
But (cynicism alert) for some odd reason (alert off) we just never seem to get past critiquing them instead of hearing their message. It’s a convenient excuse for refusing to hear their message, and never doing anything about their legitimate grievances.
This thinking is akin to a monkey who starves clutching a banana through a hole too small to remove it’s hand while holding it. For your information, we’re all in this thing together. It’s the corporatists who are trying to export all our jobs or import all our labor that foment the hatred among us, to divert our attention from them. Imus is a great big cog in that machine, legitimizing the use racial epithets through his broadcasts for decades. Politicians and pundits attempt to shape public thinking through appearances on his program, adding to his legitimacy.
And spare me the nonsense about rappers using “ho” or “niggaz.” Yes, that is despicable, and it should stop. However, if a friend next door called me “hillbilly” it’d be one thing, but if a stranger of a different color called me that, it’d be taken very differently. And if a stranger of a different color who has a nationally syndicated radio and TV show did that to me, it’d be different by orders of magnitude. There’s no denying that reality.
So until the blessed day Sharpton and Jackson are no longer needed, I say more power to them.
April 11th, 2007 at 9:03 amAnd #37: I love those Georgia peaches!! Nice post!
April 11th, 2007 at 9:10 amSharpton and Jackson are doing great damage to this country. They are driving a wedge between those of us who are linked in our opposition to the Bush administration and its policies. Just look at the comment stream on this message board. I am one Independent/Democrat who will never vote for a candidate who gives Sharpton or Jackson any consideration. They and the Neocons are in the same boat as far as I’m concerned. Pox on both their houses.
April 11th, 2007 at 9:18 amDear John @ 41, if you say
“I am one Independent/Democrat who will never vote for a candidate who gives Sharpton or Jackson any consideration”
Your hatred of these two individuals trumps everything else, to the point that you extend that to anyone giving them “consideration”?
Of course, this means that the wedge of which you speak is of your own making, not theirs. It’s a wedge you’re actively looking to posess, and it’s a wedge you’re so proud to own you’ll proclaim it publicly here.
That’s your privilege, but please don’t try to blow smoke up my skirt. As far as opposing Bush’s policies, you’d find no two more stalwart allies than these two individuals. So it’s obvious there’s something disingenuous under the surface of your comment.
April 11th, 2007 at 9:42 amSo what do you think about Jackson calling NY “Jew Town?” Why aren’t you shunning him? Is that less offensive than what Imus said?
April 11th, 2007 at 9:54 amOf all the things to report on these days, I’m just frankly tired of this story. I’ve many more offensive things on Fox News on a daily basis.
April 11th, 2007 at 10:04 amI watched their news conference and what I saw was a bunch of really smart women acting with restraint and dignity. What would Barnes have rather have them do, get up there and say “Hey, it’s no big deal, we are called hos all the time by our rappers”. I am willing to bet that any self-respecting black woman is just as offended by rappers calling black women hos as they are by Imus doing it.
April 11th, 2007 at 10:57 am“Sharpton and Jackson are creeps….” This is such a Republic tactic. You can’t win the argument so change the subject. Blame it on someone else. It’s what I called the “Clinton did it too” syndrome. Shows how good their critical thinking skills are…..NOT!
April 11th, 2007 at 11:06 amJohn @ 44, I think the phrase was “Hymie Town.” It’s deplorable.
Like I told my conservative friends who asked me “where’s your outrage about the beheadings” when I took a strong position against America torturing people in our name: it is possible to be outraged about more than one thing at once.
Imus has made a living out of racist comments. Jackson, out of advocacy. Now if you can cite an entire career of racist comments from Rev. Jackson, there’d be no difference. But if you were to try to do that, I’m afraid you’d have to conflate his advocacy with racism. They are, of course, two different things.
With Sharpton, it’s always “Tawana Brawley … Tawana Brawley …” which was a specific case about a specific individual and specific police officers. He maintains he still believes her. I happen to think think it’s an embarassment for him. But that doesn’t negate his comments about Imus. Don’t forget: Imus approached Sharpton to try to redeem himself.
I’m only trying to point out that unless you’re a wealthy tycoon, what these two advocate the most also benefits you, me, and everyone else who works for a living. I have observed many white folks who interpret their adovcacy as racist, because they mistakenly perceive that it’s their ox that’s being gored. And the propaganda outlets play right into that and trump up the lies to preclude any chance of a meaningful color-blind coalition emerging.
And they have been very successul at it based on some posts here.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:42 amKate:
“… Republican tactic.” I actively campaigned for Kerry/Edwards … and I still think Jackson and Sharpton are opportunistic racist creeps.
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