Florida Legislature Forces University To Idolize Jeb Bush
Florida Legislature Forces University To Idolize Jeb Bush
Two weeks ago, the University of Florida voted to deny Jeb Bush an honorary degree. By a 38-28 vote, the faculty Senate rejected the former governor’s nomination, citing concerns about some of Bush’s education initiatives, including his dismantling of affirmative action programs in the state:
In higher education circles, Bush’s greatest criticism came over his “One Florida” plan, which ended race-based admissions in state universities. Black enrollment dropped at UF and statewide after the change took effect, as critics predicted.
Bush’s policies of “rewarding and punishing schools according to students’ standardized test results and using vouchers to send certain students to private schools at public expense” also contributed to the rejection of his nomination.
Upset by this lack of Jeb Bush adoration, the conservative-controlled House Schools & Learning Council voted yesterday to force the university to rename its education school the “Jeb Bush College of Education.”
Over the faculty’s opposition, the school will now have “to erect ‘suitable markers‘ noting the college’s new name and include the revised name in all university documents, including catalogues and brochures.” The lawmakers acknowledge they “came up with the idea as an answer” to the faculty’s denial of Bush’s honorary degree.
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madness. I have never seen such narcissistic posturing as i have from the likes of these Con’s
April 11th, 2007 at 11:06 amRepublicans are losers.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:06 amLord, they are even hypocrites when they name buildings of education.
An Honorary degree yet. What a bunch of fakes. Jeb Bush should be ashamed.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:06 amWow.
Just…wow.
There are simply no words.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:06 amThey’re just trying to find a location for GW’s presidential library……….
April 11th, 2007 at 11:07 amThis is why people are leaving the repugnacan party in droves. Keep it up, PLEASE.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:09 amGeez. Hasn’t this robber-baron family already gotten much more adulation and reward than it deserves? What next . . . The Babsy Bush Cosmetology Institute . . . the Drunken Slut Twins Drug Treatment Center . . . The GDumbya War College?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:09 amThey cannot get anything legitimately, can they?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:11 amJust another crock full of bush crap…..Blessings
April 11th, 2007 at 11:11 amBeing a Republican Cultist means PRETENDING. Pretending every damn day.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:12 amflorida has joined alabama, georgia and mississippi in moving rapidly back to the time of slavery. congratulations FL, you are now a charter member of the dark ages
April 11th, 2007 at 11:12 amIt was the only way he could earn one.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:13 amWTF? Who in thier right mind would want to go to a school called the ‘Jeb Bush College of Education’? (probably the same people that would gladly attend Jerry Falwell’s ‘Liberty University’)
April 11th, 2007 at 11:13 amAs a graduate of UF, I deeply resent the forcing of the jeb’s name on the school. I am proud that the faculty had enough courage to reject jeb’s honorary degree and to protest this slap. Governor Crist seems like a reasonable man; the University could appeal to him for help if the University administration has enough backbone.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:15 amIsn’t “Jeb” a nickname, based on his initials?
Shouldn’t they be more formal about the name, or will this trend continue with the “Dubya School of Quantum Physics”?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:15 amMeet the New Republican Party.
A bunch of bratty adolescents determined to one-up everybody, no matter the cost.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:15 amIf haven’t seen much vandalism on the FU campus recently, I’m guessing you’re about to. All on the same sign. Repeatedly.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:15 amWhy don’t affirmative action proponenets EVER say – many of our minority populated schools are being held HOSTAGE by the corrupt NEA and local teachers unions. The WORST teachers are often dumped in these schools rather than being fired for their ineptitude. Are none of you surprised that the remedial needs of college freshman is at the highest level ever due to poor elementary and secondary preparation? And finally, ask yourself how many kids admitted under affirmative action programs went on to graduate? The sham is BEFORE college………Shame on the NEA…
April 11th, 2007 at 11:16 amJust like a Bush to forcibly take what the people don’t give. W took the election in 2000 and Jeb takes the school’s College of Education. These bastards are so low.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:16 amAs an alumni of UF, I can’t wait to see how these new signs will be defaced. At a minimum they should be covered with feces on a daily basis to symbolize what Jeb has done to education in Florida.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:17 amas long as this family is allowed to get away with their crimes and law twisting-they will
April 11th, 2007 at 11:19 amUhhh, the honorary degree looks like the better choice. They don’t mean crap in the real world. Now the people at the University are stuck with his name on the college of business. Bummer.
What would happen if the school didn’t do anything for Jeb? Would they lose funding or something?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:19 amI guess getting even is what Republican politics is all about.
And how much will it cost the taxpayers of Florida to implement this little gem.
Lastly, how many other living people have their name slapped on government buildings. And why doesn’t Jeb Bush step in to end this nonsense? Never mind, he’s a Bush.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:19 am“…will now have to erect ‘suitable markers‘ noting the college’s new name…”
Suitable meaning misspelled! Jeb Bush Collage of Educatshun
April 11th, 2007 at 11:19 amIn another 5 years or so, the word bush will have assumed a new connotation in American English…
examples:
“man, you really bushed up that one”
“go bush yourself”
and, of course,
Bush U
April 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amComment by valiant venus
V V this has nothing to do with whateever nonconnected point your trying to connect it with. Other than maybe you are angry that even the corrupt and terrible teachers wouldn’t even give JEB an honorary degree.
Thanks for the laugh.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amWhat else is new. These Bush asshats have been given everything handed to them on a silver platter their entire life. They haven’t EARNED a single thing worthy of noting. Talk about elitism. The admiration of the Bushies isn’t even earned, its the result of somebody else building them up and putting on a likable persona. What’s next, Mount Bushmore.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amI’m there!
April 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amI don’t think Jeb or George took anything they have, for some reason, people just want to give them things, like elections and colleges of business.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:20 amvaliant venus: “look over there! is that a badger with a gun!?”
April 11th, 2007 at 11:22 amI agree Valient that affirmative action can have downfalls, but overall I would still keep it in place. The numbers of minorities went down, not good.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:22 am“So where did you graduate from?
“Bush U!”
“Hey, sorry man, I thought you might have gone to college…”
April 11th, 2007 at 11:22 amAnd finally, ask yourself how many kids admitted under affirmative action programs went on to graduate? The sham is BEFORE college………Shame on the NEA…
Comment by valiant venus
What does any of that blather have to do with the Jeb Bush College of Education?
Try to keep up, Hagfish.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:22 amAnd finally, ask yourself how many kids admitted under affirmative action programs went on to graduate? The sham is BEFORE college………Shame on the NEA…
Comment by valiant venus
I have no idea where the heck you graduated from and don’t really care, as usual you are off topic, so I must wonder how terrible and corrupt your teachers were.
SHAME on the corrupt terrible NEA for not giving JEB an honorary degree!!!
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!
April 11th, 2007 at 11:22 amEnjoy your little thumb-in-the-eye brand of politics while you can, Republican scum. You will be crying into your drinks come November, 2008.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:23 amAnd it’s already April 11th….
April 11th, 2007 at 11:24 amThey are going to have one hell of a time keeping the rotten eggs off those markers.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:26 am“suitable markers” to appear defaced or on eBay (or both?) in matter of days…
April 11th, 2007 at 11:26 amKim Jong Jeb! All hail the Great Leader! We must get behind Jeb because he carries on the Royal Bush Bloodline!
Jalepeno!
-GSD
April 11th, 2007 at 11:28 amif this man has any shame, he’ll ask that the directive be rescinded. Or donate a crap ton of money to the Education department at UF so it can at least be legitimate.
But the important question is…any chance this’ll hurt Florida’s recruiting?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:29 amMaybe Jeb and Mitt can open up a Used Car Dealership in Tampa.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:32 amThe sham is BEFORE college………Shame on the NEA…
Comment by valiant venus has never seen a … — April 11, 2007 @ 11:16 am
Translation: blah blah blah, NEA, blah blah blah, affirmative action, blah blah blah, I really have nothing productive to add to this thread, blah blah blah, but I will tell you the funny story of my dead child not being a democrat, blah blah blah.
toodles
Translation: I have to run now and regurgitate my morning meal
April 11th, 2007 at 11:32 amwhat a stupid legislature!
they’ll spend a fortune building monuments to their pumpkinheaded leader, but not to educate children.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:33 amTypical Bush Election Stra-te-ger-ry:
1. First, disenfranchise the minority (Black enrollment dropped at UF and statewide after the change took effect, as critics predicted)
2. Loose an election (by a 38-28 vote)
3. Damn the results and find a court that will override the people’s will.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:34 amNow THAT’S an honor the Bushes will remember…
April 11th, 2007 at 11:36 amAll signage should be in cardboard, misspelled, hung lopsided or upside down, and written in crayon.
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April 11th, 2007 at 11:37 amThe lawmakers acknowledge they “came up with the idea as an answer†to the faculty’s denial of Bush’s honorary degree.
Oh yes. They came up with the idea. I’m sure ol’ Jeb had nothing to do with it himself.
/sarcasm off
April 11th, 2007 at 11:38 amI just puked.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:40 amYou’d think Jeb Bush would be ashamed that this name change is being forced on the school and he would step in to stop it. But the defining characteristic of the Bush’s and the Republican Party is shamelessness, so I guess we won’t be seeing Jeb do the manly thing.
Is it that the Bush’s don’t get how fascistic they are, or do they embrace their inner Nazi?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:40 amBush crime family has it’s supporters in florida congress.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:42 amWait till the students find out the Repukes forced their university to rename the college after Jebbie.
Those signs are going to get tagged by graffiti, vandalized and stolen.
Good.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:44 amokay TP police?
Am I not allowed to post a VV/MA rebuttal that just happens to reference her fantasy family and pertains to certain verbiage of unliving offspring?
Just curious as why I’m being deleted today?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:46 amYes, I can think of some ’suitable markers’ to erect.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:46 amValiant Venus is a dimwitted, inbred Repuke redneck troll.
The teachers union doesn’t decide where teachers are assigned.
The administration does, dumbass.
Typical Repuke liar. Smear the unions and lie to do it.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:47 amHey Gators, its time to contact the members of the Florida Legislature’s Schools & Learning Council to express our complete and utter displeasure.
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Committees/committeesdetail.aspx?SessionId=54&CommitteeId=2366
It was bad enough when we had to rename the Booger to Turlington Rock but this is going way too far.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:47 amHey Raven! LOL! Thanx!
April 11th, 2007 at 11:51 amput the statue in the bathroom.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:51 amLike giant statues of Saddam … I bet there will be giant statues of Bush I, II, or III? if the rightwing dominionists get their way in America.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:51 amDRexJay – I guess you think my family has some importance to this thread. No one from my family attended school in Florida.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:51 amDon’t get too angry…this bill just made it out of committee.
It still has to go through the whole legislature and the governor’s desk.
Hopefully, Floridians can raise a stink about it and get it killed.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:52 amPLC that’s funny. The signage posted upside down and in crayon and stuff. Perfect.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:52 amWOW!!! Now ol’Jebbie can’t get an honorary degree from U of F but his dumber brother Dubya got one from Yale…….. HMMMM! OH, that’s right, Daddy bought that Yale sheepskin, My Bad.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:53 amDRexJay – I guess you think my family has some importance to this thread. No one from my family attended school in Florida.
Comment by valiant venus
Haggie — I guess you think you have any importance to this blog.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:53 amThe sign naming the school would be most “suitably” be posted on the door to the men’s room.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:54 amWhen the pukes can’t buy it they legislate it in FL.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:55 amTo #4,
Kriptik, there are indeed words: today’s conservatives are fascists. Period.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:56 amThe signs could have Jeb Bush spelled in a child-like font with the “e” and the “s” backwards. That would be appropriate.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:56 amIt’s my understanding Jake is quite the confabulator as well.
*nodding head back and forth*
Tisk tisk you rascals.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:57 amLet me summarize VV’s argument: “Look over there!”
April 11th, 2007 at 11:58 amHispanic penguins are actually pretty kick-ass.
April 11th, 2007 at 11:59 amAfter what Baby Bush (meaning Jeb) did to the school system in Florida (where I currently live), I’m surprised that this was even an issue. This is the idiot that created a “standardized” test (that he can’t even pass) to be the only qualifying criteria for graduation for Florida students. If a child does not pass the FCAT by the 12th grade, the school system will not let the child graduate. All school children have to take the test in 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 10th, and 12th grades. If the child passes once that only means that they are one step closer to getting the sheepskin, but if they fail one year, they don’t get to graduate.
The teachers here in Florida only “teach the test”, and have all but eliminated subjects not covered by the FCAT. My daughter (in 5th grade) has not had any history lessons in over 3 years, only has music class once a week, has “recess” not P.E., and hasn’t had any vocabulary words to learn in 2 years. She brings home no homework on a consistent basis, yet continues to score well in school bringing home A’s, B’s, and C’s in all her FCAT sanctioned classes.
When will it stop?!?!?! The new governor, Crist, is also a republican, and is more interested in declaring today “Florida Aquarium Day” than working on the education system, health care system, rising housing costs and insurance rates. Vote them ALL out!
April 11th, 2007 at 12:00 pmso I guess the Bush family forgot which day is April Folls Day?????
April 11th, 2007 at 12:01 pmRight? pleeeease?
Disgusting and will disgrace the University of Florida to have this joker’s name as though he is someone to be revered and honored. The Board of Regents of UF need to stop this shameless idolatry and stop it right now. Jeb Bush’s name will be one of disgrace once his activitieis vis-a-vis Florida’s stolen election of 2000 are made public. Then what will UF do?? Someone needs to begin an investigation into Jebbie’s illegal activities during bro’s election of 2000 and then this idolatry will end.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:03 pmIs it next to the Neil Bush School of Businesss?
April 11th, 2007 at 12:04 pmLet’s get to the bottom of BushElectionGate fast! There was a programmer in Florida who met with Jeb before the election of 2000 and was asked to hack into a computer. Let’s get that guy’s name quick!
Also, just google Jeb’s family – criminal arrests all over the place. Buying his name into a position of honor is dispicable and sooooo totally Bush Crime Family that it’s no longer funny – or interesting – just plain disgusting and reprehensible.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:05 pmAnd I’d begin with Katherine Harris who was Dukie Cunningham’s big buddy…..
April 11th, 2007 at 12:06 pmKatherine Harris is a laughingstock the same as Jebbie is considered to be an JackassGovernor in Florida. When he left office, the people of Florida said “good riddance” and they’re elated that he’s gone.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:07 pmYes, I can think of some ’suitable markers’ to erect.
Comment by Loonie — April 11, 2007 @ 11:46 am
“Erect” being the operative I assume.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:10 pmThey cite the dismantling of the the racist program affirmative action as reason not to give him an honoary degree. As we all know affirmative action has nothing to do with skill or intelligence-only race, so maybe the real reason is that he was qualified, but since he is white they had to worry about quotas instead.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:10 pmTypical Repuke liar. Smear the unions and lie to do it.
Comment by Tom3 — April 11, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Obviously the trolls were all homeschooled. Everything they know about schools they heard from their neocon handlers.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:11 pmAhhh yes affirmative action is actually racist because it does not require minorities to reach their full potential, kind of gives a free ride.
The minorities should have the final say in this issue.
Not whites in power.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:13 pmyou think my family has some importance
Comment by valiant venus — April 11, 2007 @ 11:51 am
Believe me nobody here thinks your family has ANY importance. Get over yourself.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:13 pmProud Dem-
I agree that the current set up for standardized tests in Florida is flawed. Here in Arizona there is a similar test called the AIMS that students need to pass to graduate. I think that having a test to graduate is a good idea, because we have a lot of people graduating that can barely read. However, teaching to the test is horrible and other subjects need to be covered, like history as you say. I wonder what the best solution is? Personally, I think public school overall is a joke. I think it should all be privatized. I have issues with trusting the government to teach my children.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:14 pmthat picture looks like jeb doing his best “steve holt!”
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April 11th, 2007 at 12:21 pmThis kind of windage from Tallahassee has been common over the last 50 years (can anyone remember the infamous “Johns Committee?” from half a century ago?) Only now, it is cruder and smells bad, too. Maybe they’re just jealous of the Gators… Class of ‘70
April 11th, 2007 at 12:23 pmI think it should all be privatized. I have issues with trusting the government to teach my children.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Yeah that’s why you right wing nutjobs are so big on homeschooling. Yeah privatized like Walther Reed. That worked out real well.
My daughter goes to a fabulous public school and is getting a great education. Thank you very much for staying out of other people’s business.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:23 pmPublic school here in Florida is a joke, rabidbunny. If I could, I would put her in a private school, but unfortunately, as a state employee, I can’t afford it.
I try on the weekends to fill her mind with other subjects of interest, like history, science, and geography that the schools don’t cover.
And as an aside, the private schools in Florida don’t require the students to take the FCAT, only the public schools. How is that fair?
April 11th, 2007 at 12:26 pm“Personally, I think public school overall is a joke. I think it should all be privatized. I have issues with trusting the government to teach my children.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:14 pm”
Yeah, that’s the answer for all Republicans…… PRIVATIZE!!!
It worked so well for the military, Katrina, Walter Reed….. Hey it should work for schools, perhaps it will be the first time that privatizing does not fail…..
I doubt it though!
The issue is keeping you Repubs from telling the schools how they have to teach….. When I went to school, things were fine….. Since then though, you Repubs want to tell the schools how they must teach the kids, that they can’t discipline them, and that they must conform to a special test in order to get any money.
Thanks for destroying something that has worked well for hundreds of years in only a decade.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:27 pmYeah that’s why you right wing nutjobs are so big on homeschooling. Yeah privatized like Walther Reed. That worked out real well.
My daughter goes to a fabulous public school and is getting a great education. Thank you very much for staying out of other people’s business.
Comment by shane
So you are using Walter Reed as the only argument against privitization of schools? Don’t you think there may be a few more examples the government messing things up? Do you really trust government bureaucrats to handle your child’s education entirely? Also it is my business, because it is my taxes that are paying the mistake that is public school.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:29 pmIt worked so well for the military, Katrina, Walter Reed….. Hey it should work for schools, perhaps it will be the first time that privatizing does not fail…..
You think the privatization is to blame for the Katrina fiasco, not the government? Also how exactly is the military privatized? A true private business does not have no bid contracts.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:31 pmI think it should all be privatized. I have issues with trusting the government to teach my children.
Comment by rabidbunny
I understand completely. We wouldn’t want your children to actually learn anything — except the “right things.” Make sure you teach the girls how to cook and clean.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:32 pmI think public school overall is a joke. I think it should all be privatized. I have issues with trusting the government to teach my children.
Comment by rabidbunny
Yeh that like that guy who was homeschooled and killed all these Quaker kids?
Take a look at michael, he also wants private schools yet he can’t even debate. My brother went to a private school and didn’t learn a damn thing. Could you imagine Halliburton running and overchargin the Taxpayers for school while serving them bad food and tainted water so as to maximize profits? Privatizing schools would turn out to be a Mcdonalds academy with illegal aliens for teachers or worse.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:34 pmPublic school here in Florida is a joke, rabidbunny. If I could, I would put her in a private school, but unfortunately, as a state employee, I can’t afford it.
I try on the weekends to fill her mind with other subjects of interest, like history, science, and geography that the schools don’t cover.
And as an aside, the private schools in Florida don’t require the students to take the FCAT, only the public schools. How is that fair?
That is stupid-why don’t private schools have to pass the same test? I think if people really want to do private school they should be given the opportunity to not pay taxes for public schools and take their kids to private schools.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:35 pm“You think the privatization is to blame for the Katrina fiasco, not the government? Also how exactly is the military privatized? A true private business does not have no bid contracts.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:31 pm”
I guess you are UNAWARE that the military no longer cooks, cleans, or anything that it used to do for its self to be selfsustaining!!!!! THIS IS PRIVATIZING!!!
Have you NOT heard of BLACKWATER?????
April 11th, 2007 at 12:36 pmAlso it is my business, because it is my taxes that are paying the mistake that is public school.Comment by rabidbunny
And it’s our tax dollars that are paying the fraud and corruption of (8) billions of dollars by privatized services in Iraq. They gave our troops bad water and bad food for christ sakes! DO YOU really think that privatized schools wouldn’t end up the same way? They would hire the same teachers of today and pay them LESS!
April 11th, 2007 at 12:36 pmI understand completely. We wouldn’t want your children to actually learn anything — except the “right things.†Make sure you teach the girls how to cook and clean.
Comment by Zooey — April 11, 2007
What are you talking about? It is public schools that are failing to teach history and science right now. Haven’t you read Proud Dem’s posts?
April 11th, 2007 at 12:37 pmRepublicans don’t like government institutions that aren’t profitable or cater to thier buddies, so they privatize them. Republicans like the big ass government institutions that fill them up with billions of dollars. And those institutions become bloated and sweaty.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:37 pmDo you really trust government bureaucrats to handle your child’s education entirely? Also it is my business, because it is my taxes that are paying the mistake that is public school.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:29
Really, do you live in my district in Illinois. Because very little federal money goes toward education anymore. To raise money for a school district the local taxpayers have to vote on a referendum and pay for it.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:38 pmNice talking point though. If your district is SO Republican that any referendum to raise taxes for schools isn’t even brought up that’s your problem. I moved to a district with a great educational district and I vote for the money it asks for.
Now you want to DENY MY CHILD a decent education.
Once again, changing the rules of the game when you’re losing. What a bunch of whiny babies Barbara Bush raised.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:39 pm“While Gov. Bush appreciates the gesture, he believes public service is an honor in and of itself and naming a building, road or program after an elected official will diminish that service,” Levesque wrote in an e-mail. “Additionally, the most appropriate time to name something after an elected official is after their passing.”
Read the article before half you posters go off the deep end.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:39 pmAnd it’s our tax dollars that are paying the fraud and corruption of (8) billions of dollars by privatized services in Iraq. They gave our troops bad water and bad food for christ sakes! DO YOU really think that privatized schools wouldn’t end up the same way? They would hire the same teachers of today and pay them LESS!
Comment by Zep Tepi — April 11, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
In a private market teachers would make much more, because there would be incentive to hire the best because it would mean more enrollment and more revenue. As for the private services in Iraq are not true free market. They are no bid contracts-that is not privitization.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:39 pmAlso how exactly is the military privatized? A true private business does not have no bid contract -RB
What??? Halliburton got loads of no-bid contracts. Blaackwater is a private security firm operating in Iraq. Bechtel pulled out of Iraq and did not complete the projects because of lack of security, such as the Laura Bush hospital. which went WAY over projected costs and NEVER got completed. Trucks sailed across the desert empty so they could charge the government. Not to mention this leads to fascism. Maybe you forgot to study the Roman empire and what happened when they contracted out their forces and that then sacked the city. I
April 11th, 2007 at 12:42 pmReally, do you live in my district in Illinois. Because very little federal money goes toward education anymore. To raise money for a school district the local taxpayers have to vote on a referendum and pay for it.
Nice talking point though. If your district is SO Republican that any referendum to raise taxes for schools isn’t even brought up that’s your problem. I moved to a district with a great educational district and I vote for the money it asks for.
Now you want to DENY MY CHILD a decent education.
Comment by shane — April 11, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Why don’t you want Proud Dem’s 5th grade daughter to have a decent education? He has said that he would prefer private school but cannot afford it. Why not give more people the option? Your district is the exception not the rule. Fortunately you have people that care about the schools? Do you think the same votes would end up like that everyplace in the U.S.? Maybe you should think about more than yourself on this matter.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:43 pmIn a private market teachers would make much more, because there would be incentive to hire the best because it would mean more enrollment and more revenue. As for the private services in Iraq are not true free market. They are no bid contracts-that is not privitization.
Comment by rabidbunny
Yeh, it looks good on paper but businesses are about the bottom line. Again look at what Halliburton has done. No-bid contracts AREN”T supposed to happen and yes it is privatization.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:44 pm[...] Florida Legislature Forces University To Idolize Jeb Bush—Think Progress reports on how the University of Florida, which recently voted against awarding an [...]
April 11th, 2007 at 12:46 pmcoming soon….
-The David Duke College of Diversity Studies
April 11th, 2007 at 12:47 pm-The George W Bush school of ____________ – i mean anything here would be funny.
-The Tom Delay College of Ethics.
-The Dick Cheney School of Gun Safety.
-The Inhofe School of Environmental Sciences
-The Scooter Libby school of Honesty and Integrity.
-The Ted “Series of Tubes” Stevens School of Computer Science.
From the AP article to which TP linked:
‘Even Democrats voted for the bill. “While I didn’t agree with Gov. Bush on anything, I do believe he was sincere in what he wanted to do for education,” said Rep. Shelley Vanna, D-Lantana.’
April 11th, 2007 at 12:48 pmIn a private market teachers would make much more, because there would be incentive to hire the best -RB
Yeh right, that’s why Walmart and Mcdonalds pay such great wages for the BEST managers and workers. Thats why Halliburton is moving to Saudi Arabia because they want the BEST American workers, Thats why businnesses are outsourcing jobss to India because they want the BEST workers, Hey thats why Delay allowed the prostitution and sweat shops in the Mariannas because they wanted the BEST workers and titutes.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:48 pmWhat??? Halliburton got loads of no-bid contracts. Blaackwater is a private security firm operating in Iraq. Bechtel pulled out of Iraq and did not complete the projects because of lack of security, such as the Laura Bush hospital. which went WAY over projected costs and NEVER got completed. Trucks sailed across the desert empty so they could charge the government. Not to mention this leads to fascism. Maybe you forgot to study the Roman empire and what happened when they contracted out their forces and that then sacked the city. I
Exaclty Haliburton is not operating in the free market, so that comparison does not apply to what I am saying. I actually am not for prititization of military. However, schools are a different story a true free market would work.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:50 pmhe believes public service is an honor in and of itself …
Comment by x2x
Oh, yeah, I’m working in public service because it’s an honor. (/sarc off) It must be considering the pay is crap. My income is just barely above the poverty level. If it weren’t for my husband’s income, we would ourselves be homeless too.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:51 pmMaybe you should think about more than yourself on this matter.
Comment by rabidbunny
The proof is in the pudding Bunnywabbit, just look around don’t think about ideas on paper LOOK at the reality of it.
From SourceWatch. corruption in Iraq … Ewen MacAskill, Billions wasted in Iraq, says US audit The Guardian, May 1, 2006. …
April 11th, 2007 at 12:51 pmhttp://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Corruption_in_Iraq
Yeh, it looks good on paper but businesses are about the bottom line. Again look at what Halliburton has done. No-bid contracts ARENâ€T supposed to happen and yes it is privatization.
Actually no bid contracts are doing favors for businesses. That is not a free market or privitization.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:52 pmI think they should award Jeb his Doctor Tyrannis Causa degree.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:52 pm“In a private market teachers would make much more, because there would be incentive to hire the best because it would mean more enrollment and more revenue. As for the private services in Iraq are not true free market. They are no bid contracts-that is not privitization.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:39 pm”
Is that why the Katrina reconstruction worked out so well??????
You will get the SAME THING if public schools were privatized…..
The result would be the bottom line and not the content of the education. At least with the Government setting rules, we know that there is somewhat of a standard that most kids have to live up to…. In a private schools, who knows.
Next for the Republicans….. Privatize the Police, Fire, Rescue, and anything else……
I have news for you….. Privatizing is what is KILLING this country! The main focus is MONEY and not the welfare of the country.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:52 pm‘Even Democrats voted for the bill. “While I didn’t agree with Gov. Bush on anything, I do believe he was sincere in what he wanted to do for education,†said Rep. Shelley Vanna, D-Lantana.’
Comment by Exley
Yeh, Bushs’ no child left behind, which was coauthored by Ted Kennedy, is a huge success /sarcon
April 11th, 2007 at 12:53 pmActually no bid contracts are doing favors for businesses. That is not a free market or privitization.
Comment by rabidbunny
But thats what YOUR Republicans ARE DOING. CRONYISM Look at Halliburtons dealings, it is privatization crony style.
Quit arguing over the definition of a word, it’s corrupt.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:55 pmHey Zep Tepi, you forgot one!
That’s why Publix (a Florida grocery store chain) is docking senior workers – with consistently good performance appraisals – 75 cents an hour because they want the best workers.
But the CEO’s of said chain makes approximately $485/hour.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:55 pmYeh right, that’s why Walmart and Mcdonalds pay such great wages for the BEST managers and workers. Thats why Halliburton is moving to Saudi Arabia because they want the BEST American workers, Thats why businnesses are outsourcing jobss to India because they want the BEST workers, Hey thats why Delay allowed the prostitution and sweat shops in the Mariannas because they wanted the BEST workers and titutes.
It’s all about supply and demand. The best will earn more and the worst will faze out. Walmart and McDonalds do not hire the best managers. They hire low level people so they can pay less, so that comparison is flawed. People would want have their children go to better schools so teachers would have to be compensated according to skill.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:56 pmThe Donald Rumsfeld Institute of Pharmaceutical Studies
April 11th, 2007 at 12:56 pm(DRIPS)
I have news for you….. Privatizing is what is KILLING this country! The main focus is MONEY and not the welfare of the country.
We are a country that has grown to what we are because of capitalism.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:57 pm“Corruption in Iraq is endemic. We call it a pandemic,” said Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general to Iraq who today told a Senate hearing that the …
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=2266643
Yet this is your Tax dollars BunnyWabbit.
The Bush Administration’s drive for privatization may be responsible for the Walter Reed scandal … Waxman notes that IAP “is led by Al Neffgen, a former senior Halliburton …
April 11th, 2007 at 12:58 pmhttp://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_Administration_push_for_privatization_may_0303.html
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
I think that the Federal governement should go back to distributing money evenly per student to school districts. Republicans stopped that on their road to privatizing education.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:59 pmHalliburton and privatization. Here’s a rather damning article about Halliburton in particular and crony capitalism in general from The New Yorker. …
http://www.linkmeister.com/blog/archives/000781.html
It’s all about supply and demand. -bunnywabbit
Were not talking about x-boxes or pork belly futures. We are talking about Cronyism that is ripping you off now and that will rip you of in the future.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:01 pmThat’s why Publix (a Florida grocery store chain) is docking senior workers – with consistently good performance appraisals – 75 cents an hour because they want the best workers.
But the CEO’s of said chain makes approximately $485/hour.
Comment by Proud Dem — April 11, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
And Circuit City is firing all its long time high paid employees. They can reapply for a lower paying job after their termination. The CEO I got about $38 million though.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:03 pmWe are a country that has grown to what we are because of capitalism.
Comment by rabidbunny
And that very type of greed has caused us to go to war for oil. Capitalism is fine, it’s the greed, corruption and disparity that is harming the nation.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:04 pm“We are a country that has grown to what we are because of capitalism.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:57 pm”
I rest my case…..
The most hated….
The lowest of educational levels…..
We are dropping down to third world countries levels….. Yet YOU just love that.
Sorry, but we are in the crapper and when the real information comes out about how the economy really is, then you will see…. You won’t believe, but you will see..
So we are going to have the Private schools operate like Corporations????? So the CEO is going to be making MILLIONS/BILLIONS while the teachers are making less than they are now! Yeah, that sounds like a WINNER!!!!
April 11th, 2007 at 1:04 pmPeople would want have their children go to better schools so teachers would have to be compensated according to skill.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
The teachers at my daughters school make between $90,000 and $120,000. The private schools around here teachers make about $40,000 without benefits. And yes there are many private schools. The best teachers work at the public schools. Why don’t the private schools even come close to paying comparably to public schools now?
April 11th, 2007 at 1:06 pm“We are a country that has grown to what we are because of capitalism.”
As in: A belligerant, greedy, arrogant, abusive, wasteful and dumbed down bully to its own citizens and the rest of the world besides?
No thanks, I’ll continue to work for something a little more sustainable.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:06 pmTeachers should NEVER be compensated by the achievements of the students. Several counties in my area just voted AGAINST such an idea.
The best will earn more and the worst will faze out WRONG!!!! The best will be canned and the worst will become president.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:06 pmThe teachers at my daughters school make between $90,000 and $120,000. The private schools around here teachers make about $40,000 without benefits. And yes there are many private schools. The best teachers work at the public schools. Why don’t the private schools even come close to paying comparably to public schools now?
Comment by shane
Again only looking at your perspective. Do you think most public school teachers make 6 figures? Most start out below $30,000.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:09 pmWe are a country that has grown to what we are because of capitalism.
Comment by rabidbunny
I see you also forget what happened during the greedy industrial era that caused crime, corruption, pollution, child labor, factory slum neighborhoods and poverty out the wazzoo. And it was the secular progressives christians and catholics and all who worked together that put an end to that and cleaned up the mess.
Your just repeating business school myths, Disparity is very high right now. Housing sales are slumping, reposessions are at a major high and the savings rates of American are in the negative percent.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:10 pmAgain only looking at your perspective. Do you think most public school teachers make 6 figures? Most start out below $30,000.
Comment by rabidbunny
Well if we weren’t wasting billions in Iraq and elsewhere for privatization and corruption then we could give the teachers raises, right?
April 11th, 2007 at 1:11 pmI can tell you haven’t read any links I posted on corruption caused by privatization BunnyWabbit cause you just keep typing the same talking point over and over about the benefits of privatization without acknowledging a big problem caused by privatization.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:19 pmThe private-schools-are-better-than-public-schools rhetoric is big on opinion and short on evidence. Some data I’d like to see:
1. public school drop out rate compared to private school kick out rate
April 11th, 2007 at 1:19 pm2. level of parental involvement, voluntary or mandatory, by type of school
3. level of student achievement by ability level by type of school
4. true cost of private education, including sponsorships by churches, etc
5. percentage of parents seeking private education for reasons of curriculum, religious doctrine, safety, avoiding discipline by public school
The Jeb Bush College of Education:
“Where the bushes are always neatly trimmed.”
Course offerings:
April 11th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Got a link for that assertion of fact?
I’d like to know what public school district starts its teachers at 90k!
April 11th, 2007 at 1:23 pmpretty soon america will invade poland
April 11th, 2007 at 1:26 pmThis is a hypocritical as re-naming Washington’s airport, Ronald Regan Airport!
April 11th, 2007 at 1:33 pmthis is clearly retailiatory and therefor illegitamate. can’t they sue for remedy or attack the reputations and carrers of any of the members? i think we need ot start making matters personal in terms of who is blamed for such.
instead of looking at it instituationaly since this comitte did not do it but one and more of these specific individuals…tear up there career….make them think..hard about playing games with our democaratic processes.
Pickens, Joe H. (R) Chair
April 11th, 2007 at 1:34 pmTraviesa, Anthony Trey (R) Vice Chair
Bendross-Mindingall, Dorothy (D) Democratic Ranking Member
Altman, Thad (R)
Coley, Marti (R)
Flores, Anitere (R)
Heller, Bill (D)
Kiar, Martin David (D)
Legg, John (R)
Long, Janet C. (D)
McKeel, Seth (R)
Mealor, David J. (R)
Proctor, William L. (R)
Simmons, David (R)
Vana, Shelley (D)
I went to a private school from 1st-3rd grade (thanks to my grandmother), and the rest of my schooling was at a variety of public schools (elementary, middle, high). I have to say that while I did enjoy my time in the private school, I learned more about the “real world” in public school.
Private school was an Episcopalian private school and was VERY strict on the religious aspect of teaching. We had to go to chapel at least 3 times a week.
Public school had more extracurricular activities than I could keep up with. I only chose one, but if I could have I would have done more than just that one.
I will say that to this day, I am glad I went to public school. Of course, these schools were NOT in Florida….
April 11th, 2007 at 1:37 pmThis is as SAD as the George W. Bush “Library” (2 books and redacted documents)…
He shipped his Governor’s records (belonging to the STATE OF TEXAS) to his FATHER’S library, a FEDERAL institution),
then said NO ONE COULD ACCESS THE RECORDS, because they were in a FEDERAL institution.
What an EMBARRASSMENT of a CRIME FAMILY you Nazis support…
April 11th, 2007 at 1:37 pmAnother example of the Bush method. When you can’t force what you want, you get the rules changed to get what you want, or have your cronies give you what you want.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:40 pm#10: Oldtree, how dare you! Speaking on behalf of Georgia, we’ve never left the Dark Ages! What proof have you that we even tried to be enlightened? I hope you’re not thinking of Atlanta and any presumed “progress” they may have made, because we’re not like”those people”! We’ve refuted evolution, denied global warming, and refused to apologize for slavery. Our history speaks for us. Georgia — ignorant, ass-backwards, and proud of it!
/sarcasm over
April 11th, 2007 at 1:42 pmThe giant sucking sound that you’re soon going to hear is the sound of self-respecting professors leaving Gainesville.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:50 pmJust a question on the Florida Legislature:
Who the crap is it who hires these people?
April 11th, 2007 at 1:53 pmThis thread is not about affirmative action or the viability of public schools. It’s about how the fix is always in for members of a powerful aristocracy. The Bush family represents an American aristocracy which is more than 200 years old. The president was the 17th legacy at Yale in a line which goes back to the 1840’s. He’s related to the Queen of England for crissakes! If you’re a Bush, you can get C’s in undergraduate work and still get into Harvard Business School. If you’re a Bush, you can get away with bilking the taxpayers out of over $1 billion in a Savings and Loan scandal. If you’re a Bush you can engage in blatant insider trading knowing your Dad will not allow any justice department investigations. And, evidently if you’re a Bush, it doesn’t matter if a University feels you’re not qualified for an honorary degree, your friends in the legislature will get you that degree anyway.
Affirmative action???!!! How about affirmative action for incompetent bluebloods! Nobody complains about that.
April 11th, 2007 at 1:55 pmUF wins the oxymoron award for the Jeb Bush College of Education
April 11th, 2007 at 2:01 pmIm a conservative and hate neo-cons because they are fakes Republicans much like the neo-liberal Democrats are fakes: Hilary, Bill, Pelosi etc.
Congressman Ron Paul, who is running as a Republican, voted against the Wars, He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He is the author of “Neo-Conned” which is now considered terrorist material.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
Can Hilary claim these? Can any Democrat claim these?
He wants to undo everything that the Bush’s and Clintons have done to harm this country and they have done a lot.
Ron Paul is the only one that is running that has said his dream is to re-instate the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Has any of the neo-liberals or democrats declared this?
So instead of bashing all republicans like some here are doing you should be supporting the best person for the job. http://ronpaul2008.com/
April 11th, 2007 at 2:04 pmThis makes me sick sick sick!
I was finally about ready to let UF back into my heart, after moving back home to Gville 3 years ago.
But forget it!
Let me tell you, working in the service industry in Gainesville,
I have NEVER dealt with so many mean, nasty, horrible, ugly people than
our “clients” in Gainesville. Seriously. It’s bad.
This town has been rotting for some time.
Bush and UF deserve eachother!
I can’t wait to get the hell out of this town, and back to my
Alma Mater FSU!
For SHAME Gators! This should be protested, but other than
April 11th, 2007 at 2:18 pmexcelling in sports, this school has no soul to offer anymore.
Halliburton and privatization. Here’s a rather damning article about Halliburton in particular and crony capitalism in general from The New Yorker. …
http://www.linkmeister.com/blog/archives/000781.html
It’s all about supply and demand. -bunnywabbit
Were not talking about x-boxes or pork belly futures. We are talking about Cronyism that is ripping you off now and that will rip you of in the future.
You have a hard time reading what people post without changing what they say. I never said that cronyism is a good thing. I actually stated that they are not true free market privitization. You can bring up Halliburton all you want, but that does challenge what I am saying. You are talking about cronyism and no bid contracts-I am not. When you can read what I type I will be more than willing to debate you. However, your current shady tactic of changing what I say is no longer going to be acknowledged.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:19 pmFlorida needs to get its shit together. For me it is becoming the miscreant capital of the United States.
Impeach Bush now!
April 11th, 2007 at 2:23 pmIt could be worse. The school could have been named “The GWB School of Intelligence”.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:25 pmas an alumni i plan to make my first contribution to the school once the first jeb sign goes up in the form of a big stinky loaf right in front of it…
April 11th, 2007 at 2:38 pmIn 1970, the ROTC building at Kent State U. went up in flames. Could this be the fate of the “Jeb Bush College of Education” at Florida? If so, bravo.
Florida alums now have an excuse to withhold any further contributions to their alma mater. Perhaps they will now donate to Florida State U. out of spite. My compliments UF alums.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:39 pmBTW, I have no personal stake in it, my alma mater is Ferris State U in Michigan.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:41 pmAlso opening:
- The “Dubya school for kids who can’t read good” (yes, a stolen Zoolander quote)
April 11th, 2007 at 2:41 pm- The “W Center for Tolerance and Understanding”
- The “GWB Hall for Peace, Justice, Equality and Honesty”
- and The “Bush Environmental Reform Bio-Dome”
The bush mob strikes again. When will these people go away ???
April 11th, 2007 at 2:43 pmWhats next – Jeb Bush for President ????
enuf znuf from these yahoos
As a UF grad (twice) and an annual alumni contributor for 30 years, I am incensed by this. A great University has been dishonored by our Republican dominated legislature. Putting Jeb Bush’s name on a building alongside the word, “education” is like putting Attilla’s name on the Building Construction Department.
You can bet that the University will hear about it and, hopefully, one day this wrong can be righted.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:44 pmRapidbunny: “We are a country that has grown to what we are because of capitalism.”
Actually, our strongest eras featured a robust REGULATION of capitalism. Many of the problems we face today are because of UNREGULATED capitalism. Capitalism only works for a free society if it is regulated.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:46 pmYou have a hard time reading what people post without changing what they say. I never said that cronyism is a good thing. I actually stated that they are not true free market privitization. You can bring up Halliburton all you want, but that does challenge what I am saying. You are talking about cronyism and no bid contracts-I am not. When you can read what I type I will be more than willing to debate you. However, your current shady tactic of changing what I say is no longer going to be acknowledged.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
Cronyism and no-bid contracts are symptons of a free market.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:49 pmXPIOLT, Ron Pauls philosophical consistency is refreshing. But, the American people like their public libraries and public education. Americans want their New Deal programs like Medicare and Social Security. And, Americans overwhelmingly feel that there should be universal healthcare. Ron Paul may be an honest man, but his radical libertarian positions are out of touch with the vast majority of our citizens.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:49 pmveritas — April 11, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
“There was a programmer in Florida who met with Jeb before the election of 2000 and was asked to hack into a computer. Let’s get that guy’s name quick!”
That hero is Clint Curtis.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:49 pm[snip]
Curtis claims to have been asked by U.S. Congressman Tom Feeney (R-FL) to design a “vote-rigging software prototype”. A lifelong Republican, Curtis did as asked, believing the program was meant to be used to prevent election tampering by Democrats. Last year Curtis, who switched to the Democratic party in the wake of his experience and others like it with Feeney and YEI, challenged the powerful Feeney on his own turf — he ran against him for the U.S. House seat in Florida’s 24th district.”
http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=3980
We’re not supposed to use the kind of language it takes to talk about these Booshi and their evil co-CONspirators. The university should refuse to comply and thus force a huge public showdown with lots of attention to the booshi record on education.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:50 pmCronyism and no-bid contracts are symptons of a free market
I disagree, they are symptoms of corruption.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:53 pmActually, our strongest eras featured a robust REGULATION of capitalism. Many of the problems we face today are because of UNREGULATED capitalism. Capitalism only works for a free society if it is regulated.
Please cite examples.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:54 pmWhats next – Jeb Bush for President ????
Comment by Eucryptic
God help us if that happens. I didn’t vote for him the first two times for governor, and I’ll be damned if I vote for him as prez. Like America needs Chimpy v.2.0.
April 11th, 2007 at 2:56 pmWhy would Jeb want his name associated with such a crappy school?
April 11th, 2007 at 3:02 pm“Bush” and “education” in the same sentence? A sure sign of the apocalypse.
April 11th, 2007 at 3:08 pmGo to the sources, people. Jeb does not accept the naming:
“While Gov. Bush appreciates the gesture, he believes public service is an honor in and of itself and naming a building, road or program after an elected official will diminish that service,” Levesque wrote in an e-mail. “Additionally, the most appropriate time to name something after an elected official is after their passing.”"
From The ledger link
I do not like jeb but this only looks like a hissy fit by some state legislature ass-kisser, not his doing
April 11th, 2007 at 3:10 pmThere are no free markets. Please name one market that operates without controls and regulations. Think before you are quick to hit the keys, it isn’t in Stocks or Bonds, nor Insurance, not in international trade, not in retail, not in manufacturing, not in science, education, no where is there a free market. It is an idol some pray to, but free markets are non-existant.
April 11th, 2007 at 3:13 pmAs long as there are jails, a legal system, borders, governments, and corporations, free markets cannot exist. Does anyone want to really have a free market or do they just want to honor the false idol of free market theory. I think history has shown even those who most loudly advocate free markets would fear for their lives in the anarchy of a free market.As for JEB getting his name on a building it will be temporary.
[...] the “Jeb Bush College of Education.” Two Sources because some people dont like ThinkProgress http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/11/bush-education/ [...]
April 11th, 2007 at 3:14 pm[...] Forces University To Idolize Jeb Bush Filed under: Uncategorized — recar @ 7:22 pm Florida Legislature Forces University To Idolize Jeb Bush The Florida legislature is punishing the University of Florida for denying Jeb Bush an honorary [...]
April 11th, 2007 at 3:17 pmCynicon Implant,
Crappy school? The University of Florida is one of the top 50 ranked universities in the entire nation. It’s probably ranked higher than the school you went to, if you went at all.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php
That’s why their well qualified faculty voted AGAINST giving Jeb Bush this undeserved honor.
April 11th, 2007 at 3:21 pmI disagree, they are symptoms of corruption.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 11, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
When corporations are not regulated, the result is corruption and profits at all cost.
April 11th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe Jeb Bush School of Education; the George HW Bush School of Good Government; the Karl Rove School of Fair and Equitable Elections; the George HW Bush School of Literature; the Gonzalez School of Law….all for the sake of providing knowledge to a public that is clearly thirsting for enlightenment and education!
Oh Lord, save us from ourselves! And this bunch!
April 11th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThis disgusts me…as a Floridan who recently graduated from Florida State I know first hand the effects Jeb Bush’s policies have had on aspiring minority college students…The fact that UF black balled bush and the admnistration retaliated by making UF honor him shows two facts about Florida:
April 11th, 2007 at 3:34 pmFact #1. Florida, contrary to popular belief is NOT a Red State.
Fact #2. #1 doesn’t matter because there always some Neo Cons in the upper echelon of Florida government (ex. Katherine Harris aka the Devil) that will stop at nothing to make Fact #1 disappear.
this is so stupid, STUPID. i don’t know wnat to say, flabergasted (sp?)
April 11th, 2007 at 3:36 pmthe black market
April 11th, 2007 at 3:47 pmon the brighter side, if Global Warming raises sea levels by 150 feet, Gainsville will be under water!
April 11th, 2007 at 3:49 pmIt’s Florida, people. It fits.
April 11th, 2007 at 3:49 pmOh, I forgot – the Neil Bush School of Finance and Test Preparation.
There, that just about covers it! This gang of thugs has ripped off this country long enough. Now they are starting with the colleges. It was bad enough that the Chimp was admitted to, and graduated from, Yale and Harvard (legacies, not GPA), but now his brother wants to steal a title from UF. They never stop!
But on the other hand, stealing and lying is what they know. They learned at the knee of their father…who taught them very well, I must say!
April 11th, 2007 at 3:53 pmSchool officials were unaware of the proposal until after the council approved it but welcomed lawmakers’ “recognition of the UF’s College of Education’s excellence by naming it after this state leader,” university spokesman Steve Orlando said in an e-mail.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/11618466/detail.html
AP > crap posted on this site.
April 11th, 2007 at 3:57 pmThe school rename thing stupid? You bet. But I’m more offended education unions and public schools are adamantly against actual performance based appraisals of the teachers and administrations. What other well paid profession (don’t give me any crap about low paid teachers since it’s bunk) has no performance appraisals and a method of eliminating the useless members?
April 11th, 2007 at 4:01 pmGO READ AN ***ACTUAL*** ARTICLE ABOUT THIS INSTEAD OF SOME MORON’S SLANTED BLOG SLOP.
1) IT’S NOT A DONE DEAL – A 13 MEMBER PANEL VOTED TO AMEND A BILL, WHICH HASN’T EVEN BEEN PASSED.
2) DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THE BILL.
3) A SPOKESMAN FOR JEB BUSH SAID HE LIKELY WOULDN’T ACCEPT.
CAPS=try to get idiots to see the truth
April 11th, 2007 at 4:04 pmDean,
The upper echelon of state governments.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:06 pmGasp! My Alma Mater is forced to name a building after that jerk? Unbelievable. Thankfully, since this is a legislative action, it can be undone later. It’s not like there’s a contract in place that since someone donated xxx dollars to the college, they have to name a building after him for xxx years…
PLEASE I hope the legislature when it inevitably flips back to center or left lets the University rename it to something — anything– else!
And remember, folks, Jeb is the “smart” bush child! Scary… But I guess he didn’t mess up Florida QUITE as bad as W is messed up Texas and, well, the entire country.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:10 pmProud Dem,
I agree somewhat. But the people are to blame since we have periodic elections which allow us to remove them. To bad a)we’re too stupid to remove them and b)there are hardly any good candidates in either parties.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:11 pm[...] Think Progress: Two weeks ago, the University of Florida voted to deny Jeb Bush an honorary degree. By a 38-28 [...]
April 11th, 2007 at 4:12 pmThis is pure Republican retaliation — they were pissed that their dear leader in Florida was met with rejection. That’s unacceptable to any good fascist like Jeb and his friends. Gotta win somehow.
The three pillars of the Republican faith are all on display here – domination, hypocrisy, and lies.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:16 pmThe Bush clan, working hard to bring Stalinism back to life so you don’t have to open a history book to read about it.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:19 pmThey should have just conferred a “doctor of letturs” on him.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:33 pmGuys, don’t be fooled. I read about 3/4 of the way down the comments, and felt compelled to respond.
I am a teacher, and every day I see that non “core” subjects are shortchanged, to ensure that students are able to pass the standardized tests mandated by the No Child Left Behind Act. Overall, these tests produce more graduates that have a basic proficiency at math and English. However, on the whole, the shortchange students at both ends of the spectrum. Exceptional students do not get the opportunity to reach their fullest potential, because they are sidelined from administrators that know that they are already at a level that will pass the tests and ensure future funding. Students from the lower end of the achievement spectrum spend hours a day in “recovery” classes, to attempt to get them to those minimum standards, rather than teaching them skills that they might actually benefit from. ie: trying to drill basic algebra into their heads, rather than teach them to balance a checkbook or figure out compound interest.
Now, I am usually not a conspiracy minded guy, but the Republican party has a vested interest in uneducated masses, and an elite, well educated ruling class. And I think that is exactly what they are trying to push. In their future, there will be bad public schools, bad private schools, and the good private schools will simply raise their tuition, so the vouchers won’t be enough to get the masses in. And the republicans will be a few steps closer to fully segregating our society based on wealth, because the money will hold the key to knowledge.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pmWow. That’s just disgusting.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pmI will be visiting the Campus twice a week for the foreseeable future to make sure these signs are properly disposed of, as the Bush name is polluted and all signs will be treated as toxic litter. I am getting my tools ready. I will put them up for sale on EBay and donate the money to a worthy liberal cause.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:03 pmLets see cocaine running, signatory to the PNAC manifesto ‘Rebuilding Americas Defenses’, destroying key evidence in the 911 investigation into the hijackers partying on a Jack Abramoff Sun cruise casino boat, also Venice flight school records. Behind every dead tree there is a Bush, behind every swindle of America there is a Bush. Marvin Bush, on the board of Securacom up until 911, Securacom was the security company of the WTC. Neil Bush, the Silverado banking disaster, also hosted a dinner for John Hinckley the man that shot Reagan, the night before the shooting. Turns out the Hinckleys were investors in Pappy bushs oil dealings. Also turns out Hinckley had a stint in the CIA, how interesting. Then theres GW who we know about and then theres pappy, my hands would get too tired going into his crimes. I like the info of how he was in charge of JFKs motorcade on the day JFK was shot. His oil company Zapata Engineering was a known CIA front. Think Bay of Pigs, Meyer Lansky, Iran Contra. Ah, these bushes have a lot of blood on their hands, then again dead bodies tell no tales.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:03 pmJeb is a dunce just like Dubya. And a crook. What a sham.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:06 pmCouldn’t get elected to dog-catcher, thanks to his idiot brother! LOL!
April 11th, 2007 at 5:18 pmThis is easy.
Name every toilet in the building the “Jeb Bush Memorial Toilet” and a plaque reminding everyone where he flushed public education in Florida.
Republicans…..just…..useless.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:18 pmYes.. get angry.. and sit and do nothing as always. Americans are cowards unwilling to fight to change their country.. but heaven forbid some back water country like iraq defy themm…oh no.. then they get all high and mighty.. americans need to clean up their government first, then they can look the other countries in the face and say “its done”.. when the people of most other countries riot and take to the streets to force change, americans just shake their heads… they cant even controll their own government.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:29 pmDisgusting, gross, stupid, and ultimately a gigantic waste of time. Why is it that I feel like the Bush family thinks it’s royalty?
April 11th, 2007 at 5:32 pmI’d like to know what public school district starts its teachers at 90k!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — April 11, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
Don’t want to give the exact district but it’s in DuPage County Illinois. They also only hire young teachers with Masters Degrees. And the majority of teachers have them. But there is a very small turnover rate and most teachers stay until retirement.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:35 pmWhy would Jeb want his name associated with such a crappy school?
Comment by Cynicon Implant — April 11, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Why does he “need” an honorary degree?
April 11th, 2007 at 5:40 pmExcept it’s not true. Black enrollment at UF was 6.5% of the student body in 1999, now it’s 7.9%. See this PDF for all the figures since 1990. Here’s a Chronicle of Higher Education story if you have access (just first two paragraphs if you don’t).
April 11th, 2007 at 5:41 pmBUCK FUSH!!
April 11th, 2007 at 5:45 pmHold on just a minute. Maybe the FLA legislature left a loophole that could be exploited? If the language of the legislation states that the words “Jeb Bush” must be included in the college of education’s name, but does not state that the name of the school must be exactly “Jeb Bush College of Education”, then it’s possible that that this edict as written by the FLA legislature does not specifically prohibit the addition of extra words in the college’s title. If that’s the case, I urge the university to comply fully with the law, but to add one word to all the placards so that they read “Jeb Bush Sucks College of Education”. Some legal eagle please look into the logistics of this! ; )
April 11th, 2007 at 5:48 pmI think a state that elects a Bush to governor should suffer the consequences. Put Bushie stickers on EVERYTHING to warn sensible people FL and TX ain’t where they wanna be. We don’t want to forgive & forget too soon.
April 11th, 2007 at 6:00 pm[...] Read more Jeb Bush [...]
April 11th, 2007 at 6:05 pmThis country is in sad shape…
April 11th, 2007 at 6:06 pmWhat’s next? The Pol Pot College of Human Rights?
April 11th, 2007 at 6:12 pmWay to marginalize your Education Department – forever.
April 11th, 2007 at 6:13 pm#42, great analogy, made my day
April 11th, 2007 at 6:20 pmIn the eternal words of our education prezidnet, “Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?”
April 11th, 2007 at 6:22 pmThis is simply unbelievable. Republicans, over the protestations of “the people,” are now forcing public institutions to show fealty and adoration to Republicans! Think about that a moment people. It is sickening.
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April 11th, 2007 at 6:24 pmWow, you mean someone supported not discriminating against white students in favor of other races, and the ultra lib higher education crowd found that offensive? Who knew. Props to gov Bush for realizing that any sort of affirmative action is discrimination against someone else.
April 11th, 2007 at 7:06 pmWell as they say there is more then one way to skin a Cat. But this is about as weird as anything one could imagine. What the Bushes want they get one way or the other. It certainly leave a bad taste in ones mouth however.
April 11th, 2007 at 7:07 pmNext action item in the list:
Replace Washington’s with Jeb Bush’s portrait in the $1 bill.
April 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pm[...] Think Progress » Florida Legislature Forces University To Idolize Jeb Bush Just wow (tags: news wrong) [...]
April 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pm#204, AHH yes, the old, tired reverse discrimination card…
April 11th, 2007 at 7:29 pm[...] Posted on April 11, 2007 @ 11:01am [...]
April 11th, 2007 at 8:03 pmHail Führer
April 11th, 2007 at 8:17 pmFU Jeb Bush College of Education
April 11th, 2007 at 8:29 pmA just reward for the left wingers, who unfortunately influence our kids.
April 11th, 2007 at 9:16 pmNo wonder God punishes Florida with so many hurricanes
April 11th, 2007 at 9:49 pmThis is so typical, the very conservatives who call for “limited government†are the most adamant and autocratic about using the power of government to override the will of citizens.
April 11th, 2007 at 9:53 pmNext up: renaming the Florida gator mascot “Jeb”
April 11th, 2007 at 9:54 pmThose who deface anytthing in public will go to jail as they have rules and police and spy cameras, so we are back to a time where rule of the land is in hands of a cult.
April 11th, 2007 at 10:14 pmF**k Florida. It’s just an over-priced FEMA hurricane target. The whole state will disapear after if global warming ever keeps its promise!
April 11th, 2007 at 10:40 pmGee, to have to FORCE someone to NAME an INSTITUTION after you???? THAT’S THE HEIGHT OF FOOLISH FOLLY, SIMILAR TO PAYING TO HAVE YOUR NAME UP IN LIGHTS, OVERSWOLLEN SENSE OF SELF-IMPORTANCE FOR A WORTHLESS CREEP LIKE Jeb Bush, ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE Bush Crime Family, WHO NAME IS SYNONYMOUS WITH ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES FROM A TO Z AND EVERY SIN UNDER THE SUN OR MOON, AND LIES—EVERY WORD A Bush SAYS IS A LIE, INCLUDING “I”, “And” and “The”!!!!! WITH THANKS TO THE LATE, GREAT Mary McCarthy!!!!!
April 11th, 2007 at 11:45 pmFollowing with the reich-wingers “to do” list:
Mandatory substitution of the images of Christ, the saints, the Virgin Mary, etc. with pictures of the Bush clan members in all the churches across the nation.
Pres Bush, lacking a horse he can trust, to anoint his dog Barney as the first Senator for Washington D.C. in Congress.
April 12th, 2007 at 12:26 amComment by vermin venus
The trolls here who rail against public education the most like VV/MA and michael/howsad usually write and spell so poorly that they hardly make a case for the supposed superiority of private schooling.
April 12th, 2007 at 12:38 am[...] http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/11/bush-education/ | | [...]
April 12th, 2007 at 12:39 am@ number 5: There’s already a George Bush library at the CIA… granted, Papa Bush, but still, should be good enough.
April 12th, 2007 at 1:23 amJeb is a cvnt.
April 12th, 2007 at 7:31 amLooks like Florida’s conservative guard is trying to reassert its whiteness.
April 12th, 2007 at 8:38 amWhat freedoms are we fighting for?? I barely recognize this country any more.
April 12th, 2007 at 8:53 amExcept it’s not true. Black enrollment at UF was 6.5% of the student body in 1999, now it’s 7.9%. See this PDF for all the figures since 1990. Here’s a Chronicle of Higher Education story if you have access (just first two paragraphs if you don’t).
April 12th, 2007 at 10:45 amI hate to defend anything “Bush” (insuding the smarter one, that is, Jeb), but apparently he had the good graces to disagree with the naming:
http://www.miamiherald.com/569/story/69851.html
April 12th, 2007 at 11:27 am
It doesnt matter if Bush likes this or not, its a disgrace to the whole of science and proves that you can buy in anything, including science and education.
A disgrace to the USA.
April 12th, 2007 at 1:30 pmCommenter 172. I disagree and here’s why. The black market is regulated by government. Just like the illegal drug market. Get caught doing business you have villated the law. Although, contracts made in either of those markets have no legal recourse rendering any enforcement of such contracts disputes left to the imagination of the party who feels the contract was violated. These markets, you see, while illegal are still regulated. Refer to comment 166 for original statement. Thanks.
April 12th, 2007 at 1:39 pmI go to Florida and this is ridiculous! Noone wants it to be renamed here.
April 12th, 2007 at 1:59 pmITS ABOUT TIME!!!
As a UF (free thinking – not bound by the liberal politics of the professors) alumni, I am happy to see this happening….
You know how to confuse a liberal? Be happy!!
April 12th, 2007 at 2:28 pmThey could always hand the sign up-side-down as well as print it that way in the brochures.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI cannot believe that we haven’t done something about this family. They should be taken out of power. They do not use it responsibly, and they’re only out for their own selfish agendas. They’ll keep it up as long as we let them continue to remain in power. I think we like to complain and whine about it, but we’re too lazy to do anything about it.
I can’t believe that I fought and bled for this nation (almost dying), and to see what it’s become now saddens me and makes me ashamed of these people that do this.
Money is what all of this crap has been about this whole time. Oil and Money. These bastards are greedy as hell and we let them get away with it time and time again. How much damn money do they really need? We need a true person in power that cares about our country. Not someone who wages a war against an IDEOLOGY. There has been war in the middle-east for hundreds (maybe thousands) of years and terrorism has been around since then if not before.
There is no way to win a war against an IDEOLOGY, because you don’t know who your enemy is. It could be anybody. I disagree with the war like most people and I think we need to pull out of the middle-east and let them have it. We could have spent that money over here in the USA where our people can benefit from it. How many schools could we have helped. How many homeless people, disabled people, undereducated people could be helped (along with so many other causes that i’m not goign to name. I’m upset that all my tax money gets spent in someone else’s country. It’s not fair. I do not pay taxes to the world. I pay them to the USA. We have got to do something about this. We’re screwed unless we do something.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:09 pmKnow your enemy:
House Schools and Learning Council Members:
Member Page
NOW is the time to start working to defeat them.
April 12th, 2007 at 5:05 pmshame on bushes!
April 12th, 2007 at 5:15 pmYes. The Jeb Bush School of Insider Trading.
April 12th, 2007 at 5:32 pm[...] (H/T Think Progress) [...]
April 12th, 2007 at 7:09 pm[...] like Jeb Bush’s response to being deined an honorary degree at the University of [...]
April 12th, 2007 at 9:38 pmWhat goes around comes around.
The socialist-liberals wanted to insult Bush. Now someone who holds the purse strings pushed back.
Hahahahahahahahaha
April 12th, 2007 at 10:29 pmSo, the libs are pissed that someone dissed them right back?
Hahahahahahahaha
April 12th, 2007 at 10:42 pmHonorary degrees for ex-governors from a State university are usually totally routine.
The Faculty didn’t like Jeb’s policies, so they slapped his face.
The Legislature then punched the Faculty’s face, to remind them that they’re servants of the State government — which pays their wages.
And that the elected representatives of the people set policy, not the Faculty.
If you put your face out and ask for a punch, you’ll usually get what you ask for.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:29 amOh, and people… Jeb did not become governor of Florida by a military coup d’etat. He was elected by the people. By a rather considerable margin.
Who elected the faculty of the University of Florida?
April 13th, 2007 at 4:34 amJust wrote Joe Pickens highlighting just a few of the acts of thuggery committed by this WORST GOVERNOR EVER of Florida. A governor who won by a slim margin, thank you, of about 200,000 votes!! A “man” who had never so much as served as PTA president prior to running for guv. He LOST the first time, appropriately so, and thereafter schemed with the mafia GOP to make sure his second run, uh, was “successful.” You across America have NO idea of the corrupt election fraud that goes on in this state EVERY ELECTION. The Republican-dominated redneck legislature in Tally is being quoted by the St. Pete Times that this is a “whole new day” in Tally now that Jebthro is gone! He was despised by the Rethugs as well as the Dems! An arrogant, clueless Texas carpetbagger who travelled to Florida in the early 80’s when the name BUSH was MUDD after his bro Neilsy was convicted but didn’t do the jail time for his key role in the $1B Silverado S&L fiasco. Jebthro wasted no time in doing what the Bushes do best–illegal business activities, partnering up with a Cubano in crooked South Florida real estate development!
I want to know when the truth is going to be investigated about George and Jeb’s key roles in the bludgeoning death of Ray Lemme and the Unnatural death of Lori Klausutis, both of which to this day cry out for justice from the grave!
April 13th, 2007 at 10:27 amOk, the elistist snobs at the university got what they deserved. I work in a fortune 100 company and while completing my executive MBA there is nothing like being called an idiot for pointing out that what a professor is teaching in school will probably cripple your career in real life. Let’s see.. my 10 years in the corporate world and his ZERO years in the corporate world.
Anyway, I found that universities are great places for people who cannot do but can teach.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:46 amCan I return my degree? What a joke.
April 13th, 2007 at 11:13 amThat’s out outrageous! R U kidding me?
I hate most of all, that it’s “just the way it is” these days. Like it’s normal.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:28 pmForget that, that is government manipulating power in the clearest form.
Sure it’s not earth shattering, but we need to voice our opinions so government officials know we are paying attention. First time to the site. Glad it’s here.
While I am, let me say http://www.savetheinternet.com is something we should all be concerned about as well.
If the Dems can’t beat people like these guys, its got to be one of two things: Florida is a basket case or the the Dems are the real losers.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:35 pmAnalysis by S. M. Stiling is seriously flawed
Re; Comment by S.M. Stirling — April 13, 2007 @ 4:29 am
“Honorary degrees for ex-governors from a State university are usually totally routine.”
Like to see some stats on that but not a big deal.
“The Legislature then punched the Faculty’s face, to remind them that they’re servants of the State government — which pays their wages.
And that the elected representatives of the people set policy, not the Faculty.”
Serious problem here with mixing definitions. Using the faculty for partisan politics and the aggrandizement of a political official is not what elected representatives are granted the power to do in this case. Quality education and research is the policy goal, not political servitude.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:44 pmThank the Lord for healthy leaders in Florida’s schools.
April 13th, 2007 at 11:56 pmI think UF should give Jeb Bush a “Certificate of Attendance” for all he has done for education here in florida. Instead of improving education, we turnout students every year that cannot get a job, because instead of received a HS diploma, they receive a “Certificate of Attendance”. It is time we stop teaching the FCAT and rewarding the schools and teachers by how many students pass the FCAT. We need to bring back a rounded education. Spend more time teaching them to read, not taking PE away so that they can spend more time on the FCAT.
April 17th, 2007 at 9:09 am1) *rolls up a newspaper* Baaaad lawmakers. Bad. *swats them on the nose*
April 20th, 2007 at 1:03 pm2) Anything that will stroke a Bush’s ego is fine by them.
3) Although Jeb may SAY he doesn’t want the name change, that he appreciates the gesture, SAYING and DOING are very different things. When he actually steps in to stop it, or makes a jaw-dropping financial contribution to the school, he will have my attention.
4) Standardized testing is going to be the downfall of civilization. ESPECIALLY FCAT. End of story.
5) Affirmative action is unnecessary and a waste of time. I’d rather admit people based on whether or not they actually plan to better themselves and not waste resources on people who are just taking the free ride.
6) Jalepeno!
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April 20th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWell this is just as insane as National Airport in Washington D.C. being renamed the Ronald Reagan National Airport after he fired all of the air traffic controllers. Bush, any Bush and education just don’t go together.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 amI’m just glad I don’t live in Florida where I would have to pay the salaries of the “elected” officials.