White House lost 5 million emails.
By on Apr 12th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
White House lost 5 million emails.
“CREW learned that the Executive Office of the President (EOP) has lost over FIVE MILLION emails generated between March 2003 and October 2005. The White House counsel’s office was advised of these problems in 2005 and CREW has been told that the White House was given a plan of action to recover these emails, but to date nothing has been done to rectify this significant loss of records.” Read the full report HERE.
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Curiouser and curiouser.
This just keeps getting juicier by the minute.
April 12th, 2007 at 2:56 pmHow the HELL do you lose 5 million emails, and then hjust shrug it off and move on?
April 12th, 2007 at 2:57 pmObstruction of Justice.
April 12th, 2007 at 2:57 pmAnd we really expect to ever see these emails? What would give you any idea that they have not been “lost” long ago.
You can say what you want about PudgeBoy Rover’s ethics but not his arrogance!
April 12th, 2007 at 2:57 pmWonder if Koochie Couric will lead off with this story on tonight’s “news”?
If she does happen to mention it, you can bet it will be spun as merely more politics on the part of the Democrat party.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmBlatant and willful violation of the Presidential Records Act.
Hey Nancy…I’m getting real tired of asking this…
IS IMPEACHMENT BACK ‘ON THE TABLE’ YET?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmSignificantly larger than an 18 minute gap in a tape.
Our government has been taken over.
We’re gonna have to get it back.
-GSD
April 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmXbot, its their modus op. the thing, or person that was an issue is no longer here. We consider the matter closed.
kiss kiss love love.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmNo wonder my connection has been so slow…..
April 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmHoww freaking convenient. I can see losing 5 emails or even 50 but how does one lose 5 million of them?? Oh, I forgot, the boy wonder was involved. Anyone else see a parallel with the 18 1/2 minute gap in Rose Woods tape, or is it just me??
April 12th, 2007 at 3:02 pmThis was known back in 2005 and no correction has been made yet. Negligence?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pm4.9999999999999 million of them were spam.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pmWe’re gonna have to get it back.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — April 12, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
OK so what is your plan to get it back?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:05 pmdo you think this will make congress begin impeachment proceedings?
you know it appears to be a conspiracy that congress is allowing this to go on to me. when you have information about a duck, and you ID the duck. You have the quack on tape, and you have voiceprinted that quack to this duck, the duck admits that it knows the chicken, and the chicken has copped a plea about the duck and an unnamed goose.
an unprecedented, day to day revelation of another crime in the obstruction of justice. if you add up the other crimes, they are enough to impeach. But our congress sits on their hands when an ongoing soap opera of crime and conspiracy takes place before them and does nothing to stop it.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:06 pmYet, they want to try to keep track of OUR e-mails.
My God, these are the most corrupt band of incompetents ever.
-GSD
April 12th, 2007 at 3:06 pmThe White House had the best email system money can buy, set up to automatically archive every single email. Everything. And you can bet it was backed up, probably a completely redundant system.
It boggles the mind that 5 million emails could ever possibly just disappear by accident from a system like this. Absolute bullshit.
This is obstruction of justice and it is time to Chimpeach.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pm“Yes, we lost 5 million emails and we take responsibility for it. Now let’s move on.”
April 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWell, this administration has squandered and lost track of significantly more hard, cold money than 5 million in Iraq alone. Without even blinking, or worrying about the consequences to the nation.
I wouldn’t expect them to lose their sleep over the stuff that travels on a “series of tubes”, over “the internets”. They think “quaint” things such as the law, Habeas Corpus, and the Geneva Conventions are nothing but a bugaboo anyway.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:08 pmThat White House email system was supposed to be foolproof.
Chimpy must have touched it.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThis is so much bull shit…BULL SHIT I SAY…..
My Dear Madam Speaker Palosi, We the people demand that impeachment of this administration be put back on the table immedietly…Investigation’s must be formost now…Time to start pushing now poster’s and if they don’t respond we march and if that dosn’t work we send them letter’s we are going to start recall’s and vote in people that will do the job…..Blessings all
April 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pm4.9999999999999 million of them were spam. Comment by Real RedNeck
That’s funny!
April 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI’ll bet most of them were…FWD:Fw:Fw:Fw cute puppies
April 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pmSHOULDN’T THE NSA HAVE THESE EMAILS IN THEIR DATA BASE???
April 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pm#14 Best observation yet.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pmHopefully these outrages will register with the voters and the Repukes will all be thrown out in 2008.
I don’t see how any sane, rational person can vote Repuke at this point. They have committed too many crimes like this.
History is not going to be kind to Chimpy and the Repukes. They will be blamed for torture and treason and attempting to destroy the Constitution and the rule of law in this great nation.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pm“my dog ate the homework”x 5,000,000 times.
if they really think anyone is going to believe this, then they are truly insane or shameless liars and criminals.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmAnother fine example of GOP outsourcing to Halliburton. Republicans would lose their heads up their *ssh*les if we didn’t stop them. Wait, we forgot to stop them! ;)
April 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmWell I used to work in IT and I can tell you this does not happen.
You don’t lose 5 million emails.
Not without help.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmMy. How incompetent.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmExecutive Office of the President (EOP) has lost over FIVE MILLION emails…
April 12th, 2007 at 3:14 pmalong with any credibility.
If we buy the fact of 5 million LOST emails, then isn’t this in itself grounds for impeachment because of incompetency?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:14 pm#21 Sooo true. But just maybe they were of Rove biting the heads off of said puppies? ;)
“re: re: puppies for sale” is a common term in our office (IT) for any chain-link email stream that we cut off and destroy with crude vigilance.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:15 pmSomebody needs to explain to these rethuglicans that you can’t establish people’s trust in government just by saying, “Trust us.”
April 12th, 2007 at 3:15 pm5,000,000!!
April 12th, 2007 at 3:15 pmThese are the folks that have tracked domestic phone calls, emails and other communications, but they have “lost” five million.
They are not lost – they are simply buried.
The Dems will be in need of additional clerical help to screen those emails when they are unearthed – we should volunteer.
Maybe this will be the straw that broke the Chimpy’s back.
Maybe enough Repukes will be outraged to cross the aisle and vote to censure Chimpy or even Chimpeach him.
That’s why Pelosi took it off the table. She knew she didn’t have the votes. Maybe that will change.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pmThe worst part is we knew they would pull this shit.
We knew that if they got cornered, they’d simply say the evidence is gone.
Well there are about a dozen federally mandated regulations on document retention and data warehousing and if these emails are truly gone then someone is going to jail.
Regardless of what the emails said.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pm“Well, when a president does it, then it is not illegal.”
- Richard Nixon
Anybody want to take bets on Bush trying to use this bullsh!t line too?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pmI can’t open the links at this moment – WHO first notified the WH counsel about the Emails?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:19 pmSpeaking of email chain letters, the Repukes are sending out one with a lot of lies about Social Security. Basically, it blames everything wrong with Social Security on the Democrats, which is a lie. And of course it says we must give Social Security to Wall Street to save it, which is another lie.
We need to start taxing income over $90,000 and make the rich pay their share of Social Security. Get rid of the tax cuts for the rich, too.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWasn’t Harriet Meiers the White House Counsel at that time?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:20 pmIf we buy the fact of 5 million LOST emails, then isn’t this in itself grounds for impeachment because of incompetency?
Comment by goehl — April 12, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Worse. They broke Federal law.
There are dozens of regulations and requirements from FISMA to FISCAM to the GLB Act, ISO requirements and much much more.
IF these emails are really gone, then they are in violation of federal law.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:20 pmI think he already has used the Nixonian line, if not in so many words…
April 12th, 2007 at 3:21 pmFive million e-mails lost.
I find myself actually hoping that it is criminal behavior on the part of the administration, because the alternative, sheer incompetence, is just a little too frightening.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:26 pmIn addition to breaking recordkeeping laws, this is a clear case of obstruction of justice. There is no way this happened by accident.
Anybody who still supports Chimpy is supporting a criminal.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:28 pmWell, when Rove emailed Jeff Gannon at http://www.hotmilitarystud.com to tell him what questions to ask at the next White House Press Conference, it must have generated a lot of spam…..
April 12th, 2007 at 3:31 pmSend a letter to your Senator/Representative
Here’s an example of what I wrote – feel free to copy.
Senator/Represenative _______,
As you know, upon becoming President of the United States of America, you take an oath of office that states: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. This is the most important duty of the office. The current President and administration has made numerous efforts to circumvent and disregard the very same thing he has been asked to uphold; the latest of which regards the keeping of official communications to and from the Executive Office of the President. While I can only speculate as to the reason for this disregard of official policy, it none the less shows the contempt this administration has for our Constitution, and it is just the latest example of such disdain. It is now your responsibility to our country and to our Constitution to implore Representative Pelosi to begin impeachment hearings.
End here for Democrats
Tack this on to the end for Republicans
While I know you are of the same party as President Bush, I cannot imagine that you hold the same contempt for our Constitution and for the laws that have held this country together for so long. Please, do not allow party loyalty to keep you from doing what is right and necessary to keep this country strong and our Constitution protected.
House of RepsSenate
April 12th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI AM NOT A CROOK!
Americans need to understand that those e-mails were part of our war on terror. They are now classified. They were addressing issues with the real terrorists, the Democrats & the Liberal Media. Karl told me so. Karl would not lie to me. Karl is a good boy. Karl got me this job. I’m not sure how many 5 million is, but I don’t think it’s such a big deal. We have to support our troops. Don’t believe what you read or hear, because I dont’. That seems to work well for me. I only believe what Karl says. And Laura. And Barney. And Dick. And me. Did I mention Karl?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:32 pmWhat I find hard is that they even had enough to say to write 5 million emails
April 12th, 2007 at 3:33 pmit must have generated a lot of spam…..
Comment by raynman — April 12, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
Or sperm.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:34 pmWORFEUS
love your name…
Worse. They broke Federal law.
There are dozens of regulations and requirements from FISMA to FISCAM to the GLB Act, ISO requirements and much much more.
IF these emails are really gone, then they are in violation of federal law.
Comment by I WORFEUS
Thank you. They keep stepping in it and continue to dig that hole deeper by the day.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:34 pm[...] about the missing emails. Oh, let me be more clear, the OVER FIVE MILLION MISSING EMAILS. Thanks to Think Progress for the tip off on this [...]
April 12th, 2007 at 3:35 pmWhere is the accountability? Where are the consequences for this pattern of grotesque incompetence and mismanagement and obstruction? I mean this administration continually gets away with a smirk and a statement of “Oh well, we didn’t mean to, we’re just not very good at this.” *shrug* “Now give us more power.”
Enough of this crap!!! Impeach somebody fer cheeses sake.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:35 pmHow does one lose 5 million emails?
April 12th, 2007 at 3:37 pmAs far as I know Federal law says that political orginazations like the RNC have record keeping retention requirements.
Also since these emails were done as part of their offiical White House functions then there is also other requirements to retain records and communications.
This is the equivalent of a massive “paper-shrredding” party.
Nothing more.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:37 pmBlatant and willful violation of the Presidential Records Act.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
I wouldn’t expect too much of a penalty for this TMM, based on the wrist-slap Sandy Berger got for stealing/destroying documents.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:49 pmSounds like time for an independent counsel to be appointed!
April 12th, 2007 at 3:51 pmImpeachment is the only option left.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:52 pmComment by Cynicon Implant — April 12, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
It always comes back to Clinton for your ilk, doesn’t it?
Clinton hasn’t been president since 2000. Get over it.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:52 pmComment by Lupeyg2 — April 12, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
Thanks, Lupeyg2. I’m going to send that letter to my Senators and Rep — all Republican — and see what kind of smart-assed tripe I get back.
I’m in Idaho. Oy.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:57 pm1. It’s becoming increasinly obvious that this whitehouse will just ignore any subponeas they want.
2. Contempt of Congress has to be prosucted by the USA of DC, one of the 8 that was fired and has now been replaced by a ‘Loyal Bushie’
3. Special Prosocuters have to be autherized by the Attorney General
4. The law allowing independent prosocuters has expired during the last 6 years.
Impeachment is the only option left.
To be honest, whats stopping the next white houes from being worse? Nothing, as long as the White House has at least 40 loyal paristans in the Senate that won’t vote to convict an impeachment charge there is nothing the executive branch can’t get away with.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:58 pmI’m in Idaho. Oy.
Comment by Zooey — April 12, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
I’ve been to pokatater.
April 12th, 2007 at 3:59 pmI wouldn’t expect too much of a penalty for this TMM, based on the wrist-slap Sandy Berger got for stealing/destroying documents.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Of course YOU wouldn’t expect much of a penalty for this — that seems to be who you are. Please….Sandy Berger? This is soooooo much worse.
Try to comprehend this: It’s. Against. The. Law.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:00 pmI’m with Redneck. How do even generate 5-million emails over the course of a couple of years.
Something does not smell right
April 12th, 2007 at 4:00 pmHey morons: Sandy Berger was investigated by the Ashcroft justice deptartment and found he destory NO ORGINAL COPIES – can you get that through your thick skulls?
Unless you’re going to tell me that ASHCROFT would have let him off easy, then Sandy Berger commited a minor crime. Certainly not even comparable to 5 million deleted emails right after a subponea was issued for many of said emails.
What kind of house were you wingnuts raised in anyway? “If Clinton jumped off a bridge, would you do that too?”
April 12th, 2007 at 4:02 pmGee, I wonder if the administration has hired anyone from Arthur Anderson recently?
April 12th, 2007 at 4:06 pmWell Pelosi, Waxman, et al……does this put impeachment on the table yet? If not, I can’t imagine that anything will.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:06 pmOh c’mon, the emails may be ‘lost’, but they haven’t vanished; they are out there in hundreds of ‘inboxes’, files and servers….let’s get to work retrieving them….anyone?
April 12th, 2007 at 4:08 pmThis is great. The next time someone is audited by the IRS, and they request e-mails or other electronic data related to payroll, just go ahead and tell them you lost it. The US government seems to be so understanding when the average person loses sensitive electronic data.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:09 pmIt always comes back to Clinton for your ilk, doesn’t it?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Well, when we’re talking about investigating criminal activities I usually look to master criminals for examples.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:10 pmOf course YOU wouldn’t expect much of a penalty for this — that seems to be who you are. Please….Sandy Berger? This is soooooo much worse.
Try to comprehend this: It’s. Against. The. Law.
Comment by Zooey
Zooey, Berger broke the law as well.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:13 pmMost Corrupt Administration ever. And they got away with it for six years because of the suck-up GOP Congress didn’t do anything and apologists drones like CI.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:14 pmTroll Logic:
Massive, planned, destruction of 5 Million Emails and avoidance of Federal law Requiring Document Preservation = Sandy Burger’s document screwup (which ruined his chance of ever working for Uncle Sam again)
Move on, nothing to see here!
Pathetic little trolls.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pmReally #67?, What loyal Bushie hasn’t already trashed all those worrisome emails?
April 12th, 2007 at 4:19 pmI work in a Records dept. at a quasi-state entity and because of this we have to fulfill every Open Records Request that we receive.
If I told our state Attorney General that we ‘lost’ even a single email our company would be in some serious hot water. 5 million? Our AG would have us jailed until somebody figured out where all the emails went.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:20 pmaccording to tpm muckraker, these 5 million e-mails are IN ADDITION TO the “lost” RNC e-mails
April 12th, 2007 at 4:20 pmTHIS IS PURE BULL*HIT! It’s called “destruction of evidence” which means in legal terms “intentional obstruction of justice”. Let the indictments roll then…
April 12th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThe plot thickens and soon it will be totally irrelevant to even have Gonzales testify because the “obstruction of justice” will trump the situation just like it did for Nixon. NO-NO little sticky fingers. Obviously, these fools read the book written by Nixon but forgot the part about the real reasons why one gets impeached. It’s not the information, stupid – it’s the lying about the information. It’s not the emails, stupid – it’s the lying about the existence of the emails and destruction of prima facie evidence. It’s now over for these thugs and the sooner they are dismissed from office, the better for this country.
What little respect & trust anyone has had is totally evaporated now.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:24 pm#71 When one initiates indictments for “complicity”, the last Congress can and will be, individually and wholly, responsible for their continued votes to enable this usurpation of power by the executive and obstruction of justice in enabling him and his cabal in the breaking of existing laws.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:25 pmMost Corrupt Administration ever.
Comment by Robert
I love proclamations like this — no evidence, no historical context, just an opinion presented as fact.
Nice try though.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI believe that a “class action suit” brought by the citizens of the United States against the 109th Congress will follow for their “aiding and abetting” the destruction of justice in this country. Maybe then those elected officials will realize the importance and significance of their votes.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:27 pmLost, my ass. This is the key. This activity is both clearly illegal and grossly incompetent, and it’s time for Congressional action. Impeach NOW!
April 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pmI love proclamations like this — no evidence, no historical context, just an opinion presented as fact. Nice try though. Comment by Cynicon Implant — April 12, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
No evidence? No historical context? That sounds more like a critique of the b*llsh*t you post.
Do you really need a comprehensive list of the scandals, corruption and dishonesty of this administration? Are you truly that blind and st*pid? Wait, I’ve seen your posts. Nevermind. Someone like you will always avoid reality.
Do me a favor *ssh*le. Prove one administration is more corrupt than this one. Do a factual comparison – please. Number of convictions, number of resignations, number of laws broken. No matter how you slice it. This IS the most corrupt administration ever. But if you really need to continue your fantasy world – by all means. Take another hit of meth, and hide in your trailer until 2008. We appreciate your ignorance, it only ensures your continued electoral failures.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:36 pmGee, and I thought that this administration was just going to go into lame duck status and fade away.
Hey, at least no one is talking about Walter Reed, or . . .
April 12th, 2007 at 4:45 pmZooey, Berger broke the law as well.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
No shit, Sherlock.
If that’s all you’ve got — Berger going around the bend one day, and stealing and destroying COPIES of documents — you better go back to the Clenis.
This is much bigger, and if you can’t see that, you’re an idiot.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:47 pmIt was announced on Ed Shultz a few min ago from a person who claims to be in communications and also has a friend in the WH in communications, that all emails via server are kept in a vault. If so it is Nixon all over again…. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
April 12th, 2007 at 5:48 pmIf they know that there are 5 million missing emails, how did they count them? Inquiring minds need to know.
April 12th, 2007 at 10:38 pmIF YOU THINK LOSING 5 MILLION E-MAILS IS OUTLANDISH, Monkey Boy CHIMPya’s ASS WOULD FALL OFF IF IT WEREN’T SCREWED ON BY Gannon/Guckert!!!!!
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