“Karl Rove’s lawyer on Friday dismissed the notion that President Bush’s chief political adviser intentionally deleted his own e-mails from a Republican-sponsored server, saying Rove believed the communications were being preserved in accordance with the law. … Any e-mails Rove deleted were the type of routine deletions people make to keep their inboxes orderly, Luskin said. He said Rove had no idea the e-mails were being deleted from the server, a central computer that managed the e-mail.”
Rove’s lawyer – I think we’ll be hearing that phrase a lot in the days to come.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:03 pmOf course Rove didn’t intentionally do anything wrong, he’s a big cuddly bear.
/sarcasm
April 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pmHard drives can undergo data restoration, you know… You can run, but you can’t hide, Karl!
April 13th, 2007 at 2:10 pmNow who in this world believes anything that Rove says or does any more except republicans. Just one more lie upon another. This time, I don’t believe he is going to get away with it.
Keep up the good work Senator Lahey. Get rove on the run. Then we can also get bushy and dickie boy.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:12 pmThey’ve gotta be retrievable…
…unless hard drives have been destroyed…
…and how could THAT happen…
…”unintentionally”?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:12 pmManson’s lawyer said Charlie didn’t kill anyone too. How much did that help?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:15 pmI CANNOT TAKE THE LIES ANYMORE!
I CANNOT TAKE THE LIES ANYMORE!
I CANNOT TAKE THE LIES ANYMORE!
I CANNOT TAKE THE LIES ANYMORE!
ENOUGH!
April 13th, 2007 at 2:15 pmKarl should get death penalty for dragging this country into the abyss.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:21 pmjonny:
Would it be a “lie” if the RNC automatically deleted the emails after a certain period of time?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:23 pmSnappy:
Last time I checked the U.S. Code “dragging this country into the abyss” is not a capital crime — you have a specific Section you are referring to?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:24 pmDoncha think Rove woulda checked with some lawyers to see if using RNC e-mail accounts was following the laws required in his record keeping? Rove now plays dumb. He aint dumb.
Jake now why would the starry-eyed folks at the RNC delete anything the White House wrote? You think they would want to keep them, unless ordered to delete them.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:28 pmI wonder if the deleted emails will finally show what it is Rove plans to do to get Bush’s approval rating to half of what Clinton’s was. Looks like the permanent Republican majority will last until January of 2009.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:31 pmfunny how they (the police state) can track everything we do, say and think but they can’t keep track of what they say – can you imagine what Rove knows that they are so concerned about protecting him to this degree?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:31 pmFunny. ISPs are forced to save all their mail now.
Have a picture of a naked child on your computer, and we can find it thru several formats and data over-writes.
But send incriminating e-mail to political operatives? POOF! Gone forever! Even though that data would exist on MULTIPLE COMPUTERS.
I think it’s time to confiscate all the White House computers before they “accidentally” get upgraded.
Oh, it’s National Security. Wait no! They wanted to upgrade to Vista!
April 13th, 2007 at 2:36 pmFar be it from me to defend Karl Rove and the Republicans, but you have to admit…
these people f*ck up a lot.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:36 pmHere I will fix this for you:
Would it be a lie if the RNC automatically deleted the emails after a certain period of time, thereby ensuring that they were break the Presidential Records Act, which was enacted to stop people like Bush?
Yes, it is a lie.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:42 pmWould it be a “lie†if the RNC automatically deleted the emails after a certain period of time?
Um, the Architect, who is quite intimate with internal workings of the RNC, would have as a matter of course investigated how these messages were being tracked, to maintain political security. Suggesting otherwise is just inane.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:55 pmMaybe we should ask the NSA.
I hear they’re very good at collecting emails.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:12 pmRove had better “lawyer up” and good because he’s going to need an entire staff of lawyers with all the charges stacking up against him as the whistleblowers sing their songs.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:16 pmi knew he was going 2 say that
April 13th, 2007 at 3:25 pmgo away jake you are lying scum. you have been proven to not be a korean war vet, you plagiarized a real vet’s bio. you are a republican troll.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:28 pmrove probably didn’t get his hands dirty with deleting these things.
he probably asked someone to do a favor, not this directly, that got it done leaving him squeaky clean.
we can blame rove all we want, but he’s just the guy that gets the trains to run on time.
rove isn’t evil. just a spineless, self-interested, manipulator with no ability to empathise or sympathise with the public he doesn’t serve.
oh, snap! i just described a psychopathic personality.
it is we the people that have turned over our country to the greedy, the malevolent, the “elite” the conservatives keep warning us about.
if we are not careful, there will be camps for those of us who demand our freedom, our national dignity, and the promises of our declaration of independence and constitution as our guiding principles.
our current leaders are blinded by dollar signs ($$$$$$$$$$$) and fueled by the zealotry of a religion perverted to reflect their intolerance towards humanity, and deflect their debilitating fear of being discovered as damaged, human beings.
the lennon song ‘crippled inside’ comes to mind.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:40 pmThere seems always to smoke coming out of Rove’s as- but of course there’s never a fire. In how many instances will this man leave a trail of fire without ever getting burned. ???????
He is the antithesis of all that is right in this country!!!!!!!!
He will end up in a place all of his own making . Can you say HELL!!!!!!
May KURT rest in peace .
April 13th, 2007 at 3:45 pmI will miss your insite.
The GOP version of Sandy Berger-izing the data.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:50 pmAre they trying to say that the tech people don’t do backups of the servers on a regular basis? Anyone running computers knows that the mantra is backup, backup, backup. Then, if you can, store the backups in another place entirely, in case of fire or some other disaster.
You know those emails are somewhere!
April 13th, 2007 at 4:08 pmIf only we could delete everything this regime has done! If only!
April 13th, 2007 at 4:10 pmJust to state the obvious – even if the emails are “gone” the logs about the email are probably still around – meaning data about when the email was sent, who it was sent to, etc should still be available.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:19 pmI have been waiting to say this for a good long time.
“If they have nothing to hide, why are they afraid of someone investigating them?”
HA HA HA! It’s the same line these dumb ass trolls have been putting into all the forums about the wiretapping of average Americans.
Oh, right, I forgot, king Bush and queen Rove are beyond the law as gods chosen “tools.” He He He. Rove and Bush are both tools.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:35 pmThe GOP version of Sandy Berger-izing the data.
Comment by muckdog — April 13, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
Actually it’s the GOP version of Nixoning the data.
But you CONS always forget how you set the bar of criminality, and raise it every generation…
St*pid *ssh*le.
April 14th, 2007 at 1:20 amWell they can unless the data has been overwritten enough times.
One popular hard drive eraser, appropriately called Eraser, had a ‘military-grade’ erasure setting of overwriting data with 7 passes and an ‘insane-super-paranoid’ setting of 37 passes.
Mail servers have hard drives, but not one per email account. You are talking about recovering whatever amount of emails he had received and were deleted prior to 2005.
You are basically betting that since 2004, all email accounts on this RNC server combined haven’t received 7+ times the amount of email that Rove had prior to 2005.
That’s not exactly how secure data erasure works, or all the factors effecting whether cached emails would be recoverable, but it does illustrate how silly your assumption is that this data could be recoverable, just because a pop-up advertisement told you it could be.
ps. Stop visting pr0n sites or you’ll go blind.
April 14th, 2007 at 2:10 am