Comments on: ‘We are trying to muddy the coverage.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:07:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: SuD http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3751907 SuD Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:32:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3751907 Jake and the other character could very well be one in the same person. But it is heartening that most of the comments are against his inflammatory, out of touch with reality spouting and not the other way around. I was on a blog leading up to the last presidential election. Jake et al are symptomatic of those who had such a narrow view of the world and who used name-calling and basically lack of knowledge about the issue tactics (if you want to go so far as to give the benefit of the doubt that tactic accurately describes what they're doing). It just comes down to hate and lack of caring for one's fellow human being. To the point of this thread, muddying the coverage is sort of a quaint description of what the Bush Administration is really all about. The whole bunch needs to be dragged off to jail - after due process, of course. Rove accidentally deleted emails? Gonzales may have made some mistakes? Bush acknowledges that Congress is within their authority, constitutionally speaking? Woflowitz strong-armed his girlfriend into a cushy job that, with pay increases, could be making $245,000 in a short time? Not to mention he is totally inexperienced to lead the WORLD BANK! He, after all, was the architect to invade Iraq and the one who said: We need something big, like a Pearl Harbor, to get the will of the people to invade Iraq. My father was at Pearl Harbor when it was bombed. This bumb did not and does not have any consideration for American lives. By the way, we did get our big thing: 9/11. Gee, wonder who was responsible for that? Jake and the other character could very well be one in the same person. But it is heartening that most of the comments are against his inflammatory, out of touch with reality spouting and not the other way around. I was on a blog leading up to the last presidential election. Jake et al are symptomatic of those who had such a narrow view of the world and who used name-calling and basically lack of knowledge about the issue tactics (if you want to go so far as to give the benefit of the doubt that tactic accurately describes what they’re doing). It just comes down to hate and lack of caring for one’s fellow human being. To the point of this thread, muddying the coverage is sort of a quaint description of what the Bush Administration is really all about. The whole bunch needs to be dragged off to jail – after due process, of course. Rove accidentally deleted emails? Gonzales may have made some mistakes? Bush acknowledges that Congress is within their authority, constitutionally speaking? Woflowitz strong-armed his girlfriend into a cushy job that, with pay increases, could be making $245,000 in a short time? Not to mention he is totally inexperienced to lead the WORLD BANK! He, after all, was the architect to invade Iraq and the one who said: We need something big, like a Pearl Harbor, to get the will of the people to invade Iraq. My father was at Pearl Harbor when it was bombed. This bumb did not and does not have any consideration for American lives. By the way, we did get our big thing: 9/11. Gee, wonder who was responsible for that?

]]> By: Andymatic » Blog Archive » Released Emails re: Attorney Scandal “We Are Trying to Muddy the Coverage” http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3737464 Andymatic » Blog Archive » Released Emails re: Attorney Scandal “We Are Trying to Muddy the Coverage” Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:19:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3737464 [...] Think Progress Right now the coverage will be dominated by how qualified these folks were and their theories for their dismissals. We are trying to muddy the coverage up a bit by trying to put the focus on the process in which they were told — I suspect we are going to get to the point where DOJ has to say this anyway. First, it is true. Second, we are having morale problems with our other U.S. attorneys who understand the decision but think that these folks were not treated well in the process. [...] [...] Think Progress Right now the coverage will be dominated by how qualified these folks were and their theories for their dismissals. We are trying to muddy the coverage up a bit by trying to put the focus on the process in which they were told — I suspect we are going to get to the point where DOJ has to say this anyway. First, it is true. Second, we are having morale problems with our other U.S. attorneys who understand the decision but think that these folks were not treated well in the process. [...]

]]> By: DM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3718781 DM Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:00:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3718781 #7 - Those are the words of a traitor to America. I mean you, Jake. The guarantee of a free press and transparency in government are two of the most important building blocks of a democracy. Why do you hate America? #7 – Those are the words of a traitor to America. I mean you, Jake. The guarantee of a free press and transparency in government are two of the most important building blocks of a democracy.

Why do you hate America?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3712354 JPark Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:49:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3712354 #141 I don't know if he is a troll or just incredibly hypocritical and misguided. #141 I don’t know if he is a troll or just incredibly hypocritical and misguided.

]]> By: SKdeA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3712300 SKdeA Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:46:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3712300 In fact, check this out: I just found this down on the Bush Knew Nothing About the Surge thread: # Hey, where’s the anti-war movement’s protest going to be this weekend? Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — April 13, 2007 @ 2:23 pm At your mom’s house, but you probably didn’t understand her, because my man juice was gurgling in the back of her throat. Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 13, 2007 @ 2:33 pm Now, those of us who know our Spudgy know that he doesn't usually take a dislike to someone without there being a fine reason. I say it's a troll. In fact, check this out: I just found this down on the Bush Knew Nothing About the Surge thread:

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Hey, where’s the anti-war movement’s protest going to be this weekend? Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — April 13, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

At your mom’s house, but you probably didn’t understand her, because my man juice was gurgling in the back of her throat.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 13, 2007 @ 2:33 pm

Now, those of us who know our Spudgy know that he doesn’t usually take a dislike to someone without there being a fine reason.

I say it’s a troll.

]]> By: SKdeA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3712166 SKdeA Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:39:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3712166 Muddying the coverage as it were... Muddying the coverage as it were…

]]> By: SKdeA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3712156 SKdeA Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:38:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3712156 Does anyone else get the feeling that Fed the Fcuk Up! took over while Jake went on break? Doing a very good impersonation of a troll changing the subject. I might be wrong. Does anyone else get the feeling that Fed the Fcuk Up! took over while Jake went on break?
Doing a very good impersonation of a troll changing the subject.
I might be wrong.

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3709655 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:27:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3709655 <em>For the record, the FAKE Jake posted I was Catholic, which I am not. I am not sure what “previous military bio” has been posted now that conflicts with me being in Army intelligence, but I’m sure I will come across that soon enough as well. God Bless. Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 9:03 pm</em> BAHAHAHA, more lies. Jake got caught, now he flounders like a fried fish. Jake, give it up. You are no 'christian', heck you aren't even a 'man'. You're a cowardly terrorist child, who's idea of 'blessing' people is 'war'. You're a sick psycho that should have your hands strapped behind you in a straight jacket. People like you are the source of the pestilence on this planet. Do us all a favor, and check yourself into the nearest mental hospital - PRONTO! For the record, the FAKE Jake posted I was Catholic, which I am not. I am not sure what “previous military bio” has been posted now that conflicts with me being in Army intelligence, but I’m sure I will come across that soon enough as well. God Bless. Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 9:03 pm

BAHAHAHA, more lies. Jake got caught, now he flounders like a fried fish.

Jake, give it up. You are no ‘christian’, heck you aren’t even a ‘man’. You’re a cowardly terrorist child, who’s idea of ‘blessing’ people is ‘war’.

You’re a sick psycho that should have your hands strapped behind you in a straight jacket. People like you are the source of the pestilence on this planet. Do us all a favor, and check yourself into the nearest mental hospital – PRONTO!

]]> By: Jake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3709066 Jake Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:03:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3709066 For the record, the FAKE Jake posted I was Catholic, which I am not. I am not sure what "previous military bio" has been posted now that conflicts with me being in Army intelligence, but I'm sure I will come across that soon enough as well. God Bless. For the record, the FAKE Jake posted I was Catholic, which I am not. I am not sure what “previous military bio” has been posted now that conflicts with me being in Army intelligence, but I’m sure I will come across that soon enough as well.

God Bless.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3708255 Gregor Samsa Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:47:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3708255 VVGFU, Since we caught him in a lie about his religious denomination, Jake has abandoned all pretenses of being rational. His defence of the Bush administration is more and more detached from reality as time goes by. He is coming apart before our very eyes. A true 30% in collision course with reality. Such a sad spectacle. VVGFU,

Since we caught him in a lie about his religious denomination, Jake has abandoned all pretenses of being rational.

His defence of the Bush administration is more and more detached from reality as time goes by.

He is coming apart before our very eyes. A true 30% in collision course with reality. Such a sad spectacle.

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3708115 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:37:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3708115 Gregor, the latest is Jake claims to have been in military intel, yet this conflicts with his previous 'military' bio. Sounds like we have another troll bio meltdown! It's a valiant venus Anorexia moment all over again. Gregor, the latest is Jake claims to have been in military intel, yet this conflicts with his previous ‘military’ bio. Sounds like we have another troll bio meltdown! It’s a valiant venus Anorexia moment all over again.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3707431 Gregor Samsa Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:23:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3707431 For the record, Jake (the dumb as a doorknob troll), if the government were trying to protect the people, the first thing they would need to do is to set the record straight -not muddy the coverage. Also, all comparisons to WWII are invalid in this case, because we are talking about the dismissal of the US attorneys which the Bush administration has never claimed to be part of the "global war on terror". Even if they had, establishing parallels to WWII would still be specious at best. In short, Jake (the proven liar troll), you have no leg to stand on. You are trying to "debate" armed with half-truths, outright lies, and pure sophistry. For the record, Jake (the dumb as a doorknob troll), if the government were trying to protect the people, the first thing they would need to do is to set the record straight -not muddy the coverage.

Also, all comparisons to WWII are invalid in this case, because we are talking about the dismissal of the US attorneys which the Bush administration has never claimed to be part of the “global war on terror”. Even if they had, establishing parallels to WWII would still be specious at best.

In short, Jake (the proven liar troll), you have no leg to stand on. You are trying to “debate” armed with half-truths, outright lies, and pure sophistry.

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3707391 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:22:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3707391 <em>If it was LEGAL, I wouldn’t necessarily call that staffer anything untoward. What would you call it IF IT WAS LEGAL? Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 8:04 pm</em> You know, Hitler made it legal under German law to exterminate the Jews. I'm glad to see you've adopted his strategy in your 'defense' of the Republicans you claim not to be a member of. You know Jake, the difference here, is that we haven't yet shredded the constitution, despite efforts from you and your Federalist buddies to do so. If it was LEGAL, I wouldn’t necessarily call that staffer anything untoward. What would you call it IF IT WAS LEGAL? Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 8:04 pm

You know, Hitler made it legal under German law to exterminate the Jews. I’m glad to see you’ve adopted his strategy in your ‘defense’ of the Republicans you claim not to be a member of.

You know Jake, the difference here, is that we haven’t yet shredded the constitution, despite efforts from you and your Federalist buddies to do so.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3707088 Gregor Samsa Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:06:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3707088 <i>What would you call it IF IT WAS LEGAL? Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 8:04 pm</i> This point would be worth debating with you, if you hadn't decided that the Constitution is no longer operational. Since it isn't, "guilty until proven innocent" and any other discussion on legal aspects are irrelevant. You really need to make up your mind. Or put down the bong. Or both. What would you call it IF IT WAS LEGAL?
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 8:04 pm

This point would be worth debating with you, if you hadn’t decided that the Constitution is no longer operational.

Since it isn’t, “guilty until proven innocent” and any other discussion on legal aspects are irrelevant.

You really need to make up your mind. Or put down the bong. Or both.

]]> By: Jake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3707037 Jake Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:04:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3707037 Nanite: If it was LEGAL, I wouldn't necessarily call that staffer anything untoward. What would you call it IF IT WAS LEGAL? Nanite:

If it was LEGAL, I wouldn’t necessarily call that staffer anything untoward. What would you call it IF IT WAS LEGAL?

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3706977 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:00:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3706977 <em>For the record, I did not “call for blowing up the NYTimes building” and (last time I checked) The President of the United States has not deemed me a terrorist regardless. Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 7:46 pm</em> Still an act of terrorism - no matter who *labels* it. We used to call Al Qaeda freedom fighters, but they were still terrorists. You know Jake, your GOD bush isn't the only person who can point out someone is a terrorist. You're just the st*pidest little trailer trash in the trailer court aren't you? For the record, I did not “call for blowing up the NYTimes building” and (last time I checked) The President of the United States has not deemed me a terrorist regardless. Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

Still an act of terrorism – no matter who *labels* it. We used to call Al Qaeda freedom fighters, but they were still terrorists. You know Jake, your GOD bush isn’t the only person who can point out someone is a terrorist.

You’re just the st*pidest little trailer trash in the trailer court aren’t you?

]]> By: rfinca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3706885 rfinca Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:55:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3706885 # 125 With all the rhetoric you’re espousing I suppose you’ll furnish me with the address to the website you’ve created (from your non-job) for the coup d'etat you’re planning. If it’s not up and running let me know when it will be and I’ll give what I can to the cause. # 125 With all the rhetoric you’re espousing I suppose you’ll furnish me with the address to the website you’ve created (from your non-job) for the coup d’etat you’re planning. If it’s not up and running let me know when it will be and I’ll give what I can to the cause.

]]> By: Nanite http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3706834 Nanite Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:49:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3706834 -- Nanite: You will have to prove that Rove’s disclosure was at least ILLEGAL before I will agree that it was treason. Comment by Jake — this is progress, Jake. Ok, what would you call a White House staffer who disclosed during wartime the identity of a CIA and her CIA corporate cover ? – Nanite: You will have to prove that Rove’s disclosure was at least ILLEGAL before I will agree that it was treason. Comment by Jake —

this is progress, Jake. Ok, what would you call a White House staffer who disclosed during wartime the identity of a CIA and her CIA corporate cover ?

]]> By: Jake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3706775 Jake Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:46:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3706775 For the record, I did not "call for blowing up the NYTimes building" and (last time I checked) The President of the United States has not deemed me a terrorist regardless. For the record, I did not “call for blowing up the NYTimes building” and (last time I checked) The President of the United States has not deemed me a terrorist regardless.

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/comment-page-3/#comment-3706678 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:41:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/#comment-3706678 <em>For the record, innocent until proven guilty (unless you are deemed a terrorist, of course ; ) Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 6:32 pm</em> Then you're guilty by your definition, because you called for blowing up the NYTimes building today - a clear act of terrorism. Thanks for clearing that up - terrorist boy ;) For the record, innocent until proven guilty (unless you are deemed a terrorist, of course ; ) Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

Then you’re guilty by your definition, because you called for blowing up the NYTimes building today – a clear act of terrorism. Thanks for clearing that up – terrorist boy ;)

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