Documents Show Wolfowitz Lied About World Bank’s Family Planning Policy
Documents Show Wolfowitz Lied About World Bank’s Family Planning Policy
Yesterday, embattled World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz told NPR that under his presidency, there have been no “changes in the Bank’s policies in reproductive health in family planning.” He stated, “Let me make it very clear. Our policy hasn’t changed. … It is a development issue. The policy of this institution I think was very clear before I got here and it will remain very clear.”
But the Government Accountability Project (GAP) has uncovered Bank documents that show Wolfowitz and his appointees have attempted to reverse a long-standing policy of promoting family planning.
Juan José Daboub, a managing director (MD) hired by Wolfowitz last year, recently “instructed a team of Bank specialists to delete all references to family planning from the proposed Country Assistance Strategy (CAS) for Madagascar,” even though the country’s government has specifically asked for help in that area:
Additionally, a draft of the pending Health, Nutrition, and Population Strategy (HNP), obtained from Daboub’s office, mentions family planning just once — in reference to 2006 reproductive health project in the Caribbean that supported family planning services (p. 120). In contrast, the previous HNP (1997) identified a “lack of access to family planning services as a primary health challenge.”
Even though Wolfowitz is no longer a member of the Bush administration, his World Bank policies continue to support the President’s conservative priorities: promoting abstinence-only policies and conservative ideology over solid scientific research.
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Wolfowitz is a lying sack of crap.
I hope his wife divorces him.
He’s a typical “family values” Repuke… cheating on his wife.
I hope he gets fired for hiring his ho.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:14 pmSure, why not. Lying about anything at the World Bank is small potatoes after you’ve lied your country into an illegal war that has killed half a million innocent people.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:15 pmNO. This cannot be true. This man has never lied in his life.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:15 pmWhen are we going to have some G*D D*MNED war crime trials for the Bush gang?
April 13th, 2007 at 12:16 pmThe World Bank is promoting MORAL family planning — nothing wrong or unscientific about that — Wolfowitz didn’t lie.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:16 pmIdeology over science, say it isn’t so.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:16 pmOnce a good-for-nothing neocon, always a good-for-nothing neocon. Wolfowitz the Zionist should be purged from office and never allowed to infest any government organization ever again.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:17 pmCaption contest….” I’m bull shit bush’s daddy”……Blessings all, we need them
April 13th, 2007 at 12:17 pmYet another reason why Wolfowitz heads up this week’s Avenging Angel’s list of conservative miscreants.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:17 pmWolfowitz is a typical Republicrook.
He’s a liar and an adulterer.
I hope they fire him.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:17 pmThe World Bank is promoting MORAL family planning — nothing wrong or unscientific about that — Wolfowitz didn’t lie.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
Let me tell you something, a**hole. You don’t know jack about morals.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:18 pmI’m already bored with Wolfowitz, the bigger question will be; where in the Bush White House will he be assigned after his ouster from the World Bank? Maybe he can be the new “Neocon Czar” tasked with overseeing all the neocon failures that are increasing in number and intensity. Richard Perle can be his special assistant.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:18 pmi’m looking at another chimp
April 13th, 2007 at 12:19 pmI’ve heard of ‘The Wolf at the Door’, but now it looks like
‘The Wolfie with a Whore’.
This same POS helped plan the Iraq invasion.
He’s also a charter member of PNAC.
Think about that. A guy heading up the World Bank is a PNAC’er.
Do you think PNAC’s mission of accumulating as much wealth as possible may be enhanced by slipping one of their own into such a position?
Do you suspect that a new Pearl Harbor in the Middle East could have Wolfie’s paw prints in the picture?
This SOB has to have ‘An Imus’ pulled on him. Right now.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:20 pmI don’t care if he joins Kristol in the Fux News chair, he’s much more dangerous in the World Bank chair.
How long before this Administration starts pushing artificial insemination instead of abstinence and cuts out sex completely?
April 13th, 2007 at 12:21 pmAboveTheClouds sez:
Well, I hear that they’re looking for a new ‘War Czar’, since Chimpy doesn’t seem quite up to the task of ‘Commander-in-Chief’. It’s convenient, since the White House still has Wolfie’s resume. ^_^
April 13th, 2007 at 12:22 pm“Let me make it very clear. I am a lying bast*rd …”
April 13th, 2007 at 12:23 pmWolfie lie??? Only if his lips are moving. He has as much a relation with the truth as Bull OhReally or Ann(thrax) Coulter.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:23 pmCaption Contest:
“With a face like this…$193,000 a year is a bargain for a little on the side?”
April 13th, 2007 at 12:25 pmHow can a man who was a major contributer to one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in Amerian and Middle Eastern history (the Iraq war) become president of the World Bank?
April 13th, 2007 at 12:27 pmFamily-planning according to Wolfie:
Sleeping around is not for people in poor countries.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:29 pmRick:
Why do you think this Administration would do that? Sex among MARRIED, MONOGAMOUS men and women is just fine — in fact, even you would have to agree, it would solve the HIV/AIDS crisis for instance.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:30 pmSo, either Wolfowitz is not sexually active with his girlfriend or he is IMMORAL, right?
April 13th, 2007 at 12:34 pmJake,
did you just BLAME the AIDS epidemic on non-married non-monogamous men and women? Do you have some basis for such a (excuse this but I think it appropriate here) dumb assertion.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:34 pmSex among MARRIED, MONOGAMOUS men and women is just fine — in fact, even you would have to agree, it would solve the HIV/AIDS crisis for instance.
Comment by Jake
Bullshit. Tell that to Paul Michael Glaser, his dead wife, Elizabeth, and their dead child.
Clueless idiot.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:35 pmA tad OT, but I found this and thought it was worth sharing the next time some neocon troll tells us that the rich pay the most taxes. They don’t, as we’ve maintained, and here is current validation and proof of our most populace (and blue) state (I can’t imagine how much worse in red states this is):
Study finds poor pay higher tax
THEY SPEND 11.7 PERCENT OF INCOME, WHILE STATE’S RICHEST PAY 7.1 PERCENT
http://www.mercurynews.com/businessheadlines/ci_5657917
Low-income Californians pay a disproportionately large share of their income in state taxes, while the Golden State’s richest citizens spend a much smaller share on taxes, according to a joint study by two research groups.
The report, released five days before this year’s April 17 tax filing deadline, showed that the state’s strongly progressive personal income tax – demanding proportionately more from the wealthiest Californians and nothing from the poorest – falls far short of counterbalancing the regressive effects of sales taxes and excise taxes on items such as gasoline, tobacco and alcohol. Property tax is also regressive, according to the study.
Regressive taxes such as sales and excise taxes are set at fixed amounts, regardless of income levels, thus affecting the poorest most heavily.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:35 pmFrybread:
He’s pretty good with numbers — one of his degrees is in mathematics. His father was a famous Professor of Mathematics at Cornell University as well, and his main contributions were in the field of statistical decision theory, non-parametric statistics, and sequential analysis — he had wanted Paul to go into economics. The Wall Street Journal praised Wolfowitz’s nomination:
“Mr. Wolfowitz is willing to speak the truth to power. He saw earlier than most, and spoke publicly about, the need for dictators to plan democratic transitions. It is the world’s dictators who are the chief causes of world poverty. If anyone can stand up to the Robert Mugabes of the world, it must be the man who stood up to Saddam Hussein.”
Next question?
April 13th, 2007 at 12:37 pmSex among MARRIED, MONOGAMOUS men and women is just fine
Really?? I thought it was “Sex between MARRIED, MONOGAMOUS men and women is just fine”.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:37 pmYou’re missing the reference: Orwell’s totaltarian government not only promoted abstinence, but no sex what so ever to keep the people divided even by gender. This whole admin is “1984″, “Animal Farm”, and some “Mien Kampf” thrown in for good measure. To all: I promise not to fee the trolls again. :)
April 13th, 2007 at 12:38 pmSex among MARRIED, MONOGAMOUS men and women is just fine
Yeah, but would it be good?
Seriously, I would like to see a study done that finds out what percentage of people who wait until marrige to have sex continue to have a marraige and the percentage of those who say they enjoy their sex life. BOTH partners. I would bet the percentage is pretty low, if not nil.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:38 pmThe World Bank is promoting MORAL family planning — nothing wrong or unscientific about that — Wolfowitz didn’t lie.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
Moral? You mean ‘Christian’… Not exactly moral. Your god thinks it’s okay to kill babies. I have lots of proof if you want it, cause I’m guessing that you haven’t read your bible.
By the way, you ignore that commandment about not bearing false witness too? Sheesh…
April 13th, 2007 at 12:39 pm[...] in Bush Administration, GOP, Government at 8:40 am by LeisureGuy UPDATE: He also lied about changing the family planning policy. The guy’s a serial liar, not to be [...]
April 13th, 2007 at 12:42 pmCrump’s Brother:
I’m not assigning “blame” to anyone — in theory, however, if every had one monogamous partner for life that would at least solve the problem from here on out — tainted needles and the blood supply problem would no longer account for an “epidemic” at least.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:42 pmSex among MARRIED, MONOGAMOUS men and women is just fine —
Among? LOL I think you meant between a married couple. Otherwise, you’re advocating that any married person could have sex with any other married person… Which already happens a lot.
Your notion that this is a possible option is UNREALISTIC. Sex is a human need. Maszlow put in at the bottom of his pyramid with shelter, food, security and freedom from pain.
in fact, even you would have to agree, it would solve the HIV/AIDS crisis for instance.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
Nope. Too late for solving it with ridiculous fairytale micro-managment techniques. You need SCIENCE for that…
April 13th, 2007 at 12:44 pmRick:
I “caught” the reference. I think the analogy to the Bush Administration is off, as stated above.
Bluedahlia:
Lots of the Greatest Generation waited for sex until marriage and ENJOYED it : )
April 13th, 2007 at 12:45 pmAmendment to #28
April 13th, 2007 at 12:45 pmThose who enjoy sex. some people have no sex life at all and enjoy it a lot.
Would be those odds are close to lottery odds. heh
The question of vital importance we need to ask ourselves, is this: Did Wolfy and sweety pie Shaha avoid contraception? Inquiring minds want to know!
April 13th, 2007 at 12:48 pmI must have hit the lottery then, Bluedahlia.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:48 pm#31 – unbelievable
Watch Stem Cells be the ultimate “ingredient” for curing AIDS/HIV.
Sorry, OT but worth saying.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:49 pmComment by unbelievable #25
…Thanks unbelievable…
…this is not ONLY true of the U.S. poor…
…but poor countries who borrow “development” dollars…
…from the WB mafia…
…that go INSTEAD into the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt leaders…
…and the poor people are STILL held liable (paying with the foreign takeover/privatization of THEIR critical natural resources…
…while paying EXTORTIONIST interest rates on that debt…
…which is why politically active celebrities like Bono (of U2) are stumping for “debt-relief”…
…Exhibit A in…
…”Why do terrorists hate us so much?”
…and make NO mistake…
…America IS the World Bank…
April 13th, 2007 at 12:50 pm#34
April 13th, 2007 at 12:50 pmYou speakig for your wife, too?
Seriously, I would like to see a study done that finds out what percentage of people who wait until marrige to have sex
Comment by Bluedahlia — April 13, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
I realize that there’s more to your question, which is a different question, but I saw a recent study by Evangelicals that show that religious teenagers are more likely to have pre-marital sex than non-religious teenagers. Thought that was interesting. And it might have a link to the fact that the religious right is more inclined to have extra-martial affairs as well… Something about forbidden fruit being the sweetest…
April 13th, 2007 at 12:51 pmSex between two people is a beautiful thing…..between five, it’s fantastic!
—— Woody Allen
April 13th, 2007 at 12:51 pmLesly:
There’s nothing wrong with contraception (see above). Even the Bush Administration is fine with that. Killing unborn children, not so much.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:53 pmWatch Stem Cells be the ultimate “ingredient†for curing AIDS/HIV.
Comment by Proud Dem — April 13, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
LOL… I bet you are right.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:53 pmBluedahlia:
Yes.
Rick:
If it wasn’t so sad, I would be laughing.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:54 pmNo Jake,
They prefer killing born children!
April 13th, 2007 at 12:55 pm…America IS the World Bank…
Comment by big papa — April 13, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
No problem, I was looking to see what the official tax date was this year and it came up in a search. I love “the Google” :)
April 13th, 2007 at 12:55 pmKilling unborn children, not so much.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
But your god is all for abortions and killing infants:
Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.†Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion�
Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.
Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.†In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped upâ€. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped openâ€. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?
1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless “suckling” infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.
Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.
Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocksâ€.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:58 pmFrybread:
It seems that my post answering your question was deleted. You can read Wolfowitz’s qualifications in full here.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:58 pmJake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have!
April 13th, 2007 at 12:59 pm#30 I’m not assigning “blame†to anyone — in theory, however, if every had one monogamous partner for life that would at least solve the problem from here on out
But then you would have to overcome many thousands of years of instinct and human nature.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:00 pm#38 Unbelievable,
April 13th, 2007 at 1:00 pmI believe it. I would bet that most of these abstinence cheerleaders were not virgins when they married, but “realize they made mistakes” and now want to convert others, or are in marriages where they cheat and/or are miserable. Sex is a powerful physiological driver. Denying basic human nature is foolish. Not knowing what you can accept or not accept sexually in a partner or yourself for the rest of your life is foolish. You need to know your partner and yorself before you get married and knowing things of a sexual nature is part of that.
Crump’s Brother:
Collateral damage, tragically, is part of every major war we’ve fought — tthat’s why it has to be the last option — now, can you answer my question:
If everyone had one monogamous partner for life that would at least solve the HIV/AIDS crisis from here on out, right?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:01 pm#40 There’s nothing wrong with contraception (see above). Even the Bush Administration is fine with that.
Huh? One name puts the lie to that statement…Eric Keroack.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pmIf anyone else (NOT on the “Ignore List” for refusing to answer my questions and/or personal attacks) has questions about my God or my Army service, or even the topic at hand — let me know : )
April 13th, 2007 at 1:03 pmJake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have!
April 13th, 2007 at 1:04 pm#50 If everyone had one monogamous partner for life that would at least solve the HIV/AIDS crisis from here on out, right?
Considering that is not a possibility, perhaps we should do something about HIV/AIDS instead of proselityzing. For a human to have one sex partner for his or her entire life is not realistic so we need to attack the problem in a different way.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:05 pm#40
Yes Jake, they support it. For married couples and non-married elites ordering non-married couples to suck it up. Literally. You don’t think Wolfowitz gave Shaha those raises for standing on her feet, do you?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:05 pm#52 Steve Buscemi breaks out his lipstick again.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:06 pmFor the record, Dr. Keroack was NOT against contraceptives for married couples, just abortion.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:07 pm#50. Great point but, when in the history of the world has that ever happened? So your hypothetical question is like if pigs had wings we’d have more pigshit on our head, right?
Or, if everyone was left handed we would all be in our right mind, right? or left?
I’m not a conservative but I’m concurious.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:07 pmJake,
Why in Gods name don’t you find something else to do, maybe go where you ARE wanted wherever that might be.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:07 pmDenying basic human nature is foolish.
Comment by Bluedahlia — April 13, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
I think that sentence right there is the ultimate problem with the fanatical rightwingers – they live in a fairytale universe that they wish existed rather than teh one that actually exists… Especially when it comes to denying that we are just one species of animal that evolved like all others and therefore are just as prone to the raging sexual desires of our DNA (which believes we exists solely to reproduce).
If they’d just join reality, we’d be absolved of so many issues… perhaps including sexually transmitted diseases, because instead of denial of sex, we’d be more pre-emptive in the realms of protection and treatment of these things.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:07 pmJake,
As you said, theoretically, It might. But it must be obvious to you that one cannot work in absolutes such as this. It’s the same as Bill Bennett noting that (his words not mine) if we just aborted all the black babies then we’d see a mass reduction in crime. It’s total nonsense to work in these types of hypothesis.
And how very Christian of you to shrug off the deaths of thousands of innocent children as “collateral” damage. I’m sure that Jesus would agree. In fact, I’m sure he believes this war is so just that, is he were here, he’d be on the front lines mowing down those bad guys, collateral damage be damned.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:09 pmIf everyone had one monogamous partner for life that would at least solve the HIV/AIDS crisis from here on out, right?
Comment by Jake
NO, it won’t. There is more than one way to contract the AIDS/HIV virus. Does unsterilized needles ring a bell? Monogamy could only be ONE way, and it would not “solve the crisis from here on out”. Do research please.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:09 pmAlso for the record, it is indeed “possible”, “realisitic” and in fact has been accomplished millions of times, for a human to have one sex partner for his or her entire life.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:09 pmIf anyone else (NOT on the “Ignore List†for refusing to answer my questions and/or personal attacks) has questions about my God or my Army service, or even the topic at hand — let me know : )
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
I gave you the benefit of the doubt of thinking you were 25. My 17 and 18 year old high school students aren’t this immature…
April 13th, 2007 at 1:10 pm#57 For the record, Dr. Keroack was NOT against contraceptives for married couples, just abortion.
Oh, I misunderstood. You didn’t specify that the Bush administration only supports birth control for married couples. One question though. Why? If it is a sin to copulate for any purpose other than reproduction, why should they support birth control?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pmHey jake, you are such a dum bass. bull shit bush was for abortion before he was against it….If it suit’s him he is for killing something now, no matter over there or here, that’s the way this christofacests and his crew work’s….Back under the bridge black hearted little troll…
Great post’s Unbelievable, I appreciate your contribution’s…
April 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pmSteve Buscemi breaks out his lipstick again.
Comment by JPark — April 13, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
That’s hilarious!
April 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pmrocks911,
how very progressive of you. If you don’t like what someone has to say, you tell them to go away?
You may not like the alternative point of view, hell I don’t like it most of the time, but either ignore him, or engage him.
For a group of people who probably consider yourselves liberal, many of you act awfully childish.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pmLesly:
In case you hadn’t noticed, I am not defending UNMARRIED sex.
concurious:
If we at least start out acknowledging what the IDEAL solution is, perhaps we can focus on different ways to get there? That’s a bit different than your hypotheticals.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:13 pm#63 Those people who have only one partner for their entire life are the exception that proves the rule. Billions of other people have had multiple partners and no amount of preaching is going to overcome the hardwired instincts we all have.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:13 pmWhy do you think this Administration would do that? Sex among MARRIED, MONOGAMOUS men and women is just fine — in fact, even you would have to agree, it would solve the HIV/AIDS crisis for instance.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
There is a matter of LAW Jake and there is a separation of church and state that Bush violates by subjugating us all to his version of morality. At one point Bush was in a high risk group as well for an HIV/AIDS infection. Since he is a self professed alcoholic with several DUIs his morality is in question. Since Bush used COCAIN and other drugs it is possible that he may have been exposed to the virus? Regardless it is imperative that families are planned.
HIV/AIDS is passed from blood to blood. Improperly cleaned dental & medical instruments are known ways to transmit AIDS. Receiving HIV/AIDS contaminated blood is another way that this is transmitted. Direct confrontations, such as biting or fighting, are yet another method of spreading infection. Naturally sharing needles is yet another way to spread the virus. This does not have anything to do with the World Bank or family planning by the way, it just happens to be true.
Condoms are more than necessary these days since it is impossible to tell if someone is infected. A disease that has become an even bigger epidemic is called HPV. In women this can become CANCER and if a child is born he or she may also become infected during delivery. HPV can take up to 10 years to become active. Thank GOD there is now a vaccine for HPV.
HPV is an STD and a birthing transfer virus and using condoms is no guarantee of safety, however using birth control goes against CHRISTIAN RELEGION. Atheists and non Catholics do not share the belief of for instance the pope or even Bush. How is it that Bush’s morality is to be my morality when there is a LEGAL SEPERATION of Church and State?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pmFor the record, Dr. Keroack was NOT against contraceptives for married couples, just abortion.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
Then he goes against what your god is for? Isn’t that wrong to contradict your god?
Also for the record, it is indeed “possibleâ€, “realisitic†and in fact has been accomplished millions of times, for a human to have one sex partner for his or her entire life.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
Prove it… All millions of the times you reference.
So delusional…
April 13th, 2007 at 1:15 pmCrump’s Brother:
Secretary Bennett was, in fact, denouncing that Stanford study, not promoting it. Neither he nor I condone abortion, even IF it led to the drop in crime. As for which frontline, and “innocents” will be targeted when Jesus returns, see the Book of Revelation.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:16 pmGreat post’s Unbelievable, I appreciate your contribution’s…
Comment by Sharon — April 13, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
Some how, I don’t think Jake agrees with you : ) LOL
Thanks Sharon, and I you and yours. XOX
April 13th, 2007 at 1:18 pmIf we at least start out acknowledging what the IDEAL solution is, perhaps we can focus on different ways to get there? That’s a bit different than your hypotheticals.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
The IDEAL solution is for you to join reality and acknowledge that marriage is not a solution to thefact that humans are rarely monogamous animals…
But we know you’re too arrogant and delusional to do that. So, we’re just going to poke huge holes in your nonsense and make fun of your puerile ignorance…
April 13th, 2007 at 1:20 pmJake,
see the book of revelation?? ARE YOU KIDDING????
You sound just like the fanatics that you are so happy to have our military fight. You get that right. They believe that they are justified in killing you. Just as you think you are justified in killing them.
Oh the painful irony
April 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmYuck:
Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.
Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmAlso for the record, it is indeed “possibleâ€, “realisitic†and in fact has been accomplished millions of times, for a human to have one sex partner for his or her entire life.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
So you want a monument as a tribute to your monogamy Jake?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmI didn’t know they could stack S**T that high!
For the record, I can only “prove” one case out of a million, but if Homo sapiens been on this earth for 200,000 years, then I only have to find 10 such people per year, right? I actually would bet it was BILLIONS, but I didn’t want to troll anyone.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmCrump’s Brother:
No, I am not kidding. I believe God will do what He says. But, I’m not out there killing innocents in His name, so what exactly is fanatical about that?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:27 pmJake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have!
What’s the matter Jake???? Can’t you even provide the information like YOU stated you would if anyone provided thiers????? I DID!!!
YOU provided PLAGERIZED information!
Provide your military experience or shut the hell up!!!!
April 13th, 2007 at 1:28 pmThis administration is going down, just get your popcorn and kick back and watch.
Wolfy is just another lying neocon zionist who wants to end the world. He gets what he deserves.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:29 pmFor the record, I can only “prove†one case out of a million, but if Homo sapiens been on this earth for 200,000 years, then I only have to find 10 such people per year, right? I actually would bet it was BILLIONS, but I didn’t want to troll anyone.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
You really need to get off this site Jake. You’re mad at best!
April 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pmAs for which frontline, and “innocents†will be targeted when Jesus returns, see the Book of Revelation.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
Jesus was supposed to return almost 2000 years ago, Don’t hold your breath…
More stuff Jesus lied about:
Prophecies to Identify the Messiah, Which Jesus Does Not Fulfill:
1) Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means “God with us.” Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible.
2) The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled.
3) Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled.
http://www.evilbible.com/jesus_false.htm
April 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pmJake,
you do feel that Jesus would think highly of this war though correct. A war which, lest we forget, was one of choice not necessity or defense.
What I’m getting at is that you feel this war is a moral action, as stated to you from your God. They feel the same way.
You feel morally justified to support this war. As do those who attacked us. Of course Iraq never attacked us, which is quite a problem for that moral justification.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:33 pmComment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
According to the Bible there is no mention of Laytex Condoms…
Several thousand years ago they didn’t have LAYTEX though it is possible there were condoms made of lamb skin?
Your basic point is that when my wife divorced me I should have killed her since divorce goes against God as well as casual sex??
April 13th, 2007 at 1:35 pmHere’s where I would start collecting data on my hypothsis:
A couple was killed, on their honeymoon, while sightseeing in a helicopter that crashed into a volcano in Hawaii
April 13th, 2007 at 1:38 pmFor the record, I can only “prove†one case out of a million, but if Homo sapiens been on this earth for 200,000 years, then I only have to find 10 such people per year, right? I actually would bet it was BILLIONS, but I didn’t want to troll anyone.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
Nope. Check your math. It’s wrong.
Homo sapiens sapiens have been around for about 3 million years (when we split with our cousins the chimpanzees – who are the least monogamous variety of all African apes – which includes us ). “Monogamy” has only been around for about 3000 years. And the population, as you go back in time, halves every 49 years approximately.
I’m guessing you’d be better off, if you’re going to delude yourself, into picking a species that is monogamous. Canadian geese for example. It wouldn’t be much of a stretch considering that someone who won’t use his massive brain is no different than a bird brain…
April 13th, 2007 at 1:39 pmCrump’s Brother:
I don’t think God “thinks highly” of ANY innocent bing killed. We live in a fallen world, however, and therefore nations have the right to defend themselves. Whether you think we are fighting terrorists in Iraq, or not, is where I suspect we really disagree. Ironically, while I was gone, the terrorists attacked in North Africa. Like FDR did before, I’d be fine with Bush going into North Africa to attack our enemy there as well.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:42 pmThe Isreal police must be here today, my comment about Wolfy being a zionist never made it.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:42 pmI believe God will do what He says.
He says that he kills fetuses, infants and babies.
But, I’m not out there killing innocents in His name, so what exactly is fanatical about that?
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Romans 13: 1-7
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.â€
Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws, and the laws of this country clearly state that abortion is legal. So too should Christians respect and honor that law. God commands them to NOT disobey, which entails attempting to get the law overturned. If god wanted abortion to be illegal he wouldn’t have appointed authorities to make it legal.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:42 pm#69, Jake: “In case you hadn’t noticed, I am not defending UNMARRIED sex.”
And in case you haven’t noticed it, the Bush administration does when they can’t live by the ethos they promote. That’s my whole point. So, your statement: “Wolfowitz didn’t lie” doesn’t mean much when we accommodate hypocrisy.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:43 pmFor the record, I was not referring to Homo sapiens sapiens.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:43 pmWolfy is a _____ who wants to see the end of the world. He’s a neocon scumbag who needs to go. I don’t care how frugal he is with his own money and has holes in his socks. He has facilitated the mass murder of innocents. He perpetuates the divide between have and have-nots. He needs to go.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:46 pmThe spam filter seems to dislike the correct spellling of Zhyonist.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:47 pmI don’t think God “thinks highly†of ANY innocent bing killed.
Yes he does. Read the freaking bible… The guy makes Charles Manson look like a saint.
Kill Brats
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
God Kills the Curious
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and’ fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
Killed by a Lion
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, “Strike me!” But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, “Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me.” And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)
http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
We live in a fallen world, however, and therefore nations have the right to defend themselves. Whether you think we are fighting terrorists in Iraq, or not, is where I suspect we really disagree.
I have to rethink my suggestion about the Canadian geese… I don’t think you’re smart enough to hang with them…
Ironically, while I was gone, the terrorists attacked in North Africa. Like FDR did before, I’d be fine with Bush going into North Africa to attack our enemy there as well.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Nothing IRONIC about it. It’s a consequence of Bush attacking Iraq without provocation.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:50 pmHere is yet another thread that Jake has trivialized and clogged with erroneous posts that have no basis in fact.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:52 pmLesly:
There is no “hypocrisy” for pointing out that Wolfowitz did not lie in this case. If he’s cheating on his wife, however, I don’t have a problem firing him for that, is that better?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:54 pmFor the record, I was not referring to Homo sapiens sapiens.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
What? You said people. People are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. I learned that in Senior Biology in HIGH SCHOOL Dropping one of the ’sapiens’ means you’re just talking about the species rather than the subspecies. Meaning – there’s no difference… Homo (the genus) has only humans as well… well, for now, as they are thinking of reclassifying the chimpanzee from pan with other apes to ‘homo’. Silly boy…
April 13th, 2007 at 1:57 pmHere is yet another thread that Jake has trivialized and clogged with erroneous posts that have no basis in fact.
Comment by Saywho — April 13, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
Yep. But we can’t let him post unanswered, or it appears as if we either agree with him, or cannot counter his argument. That could lead to more troll droppings if they think they can come to a liberal site and be allowed to crap on teh floor and get away with it.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:01 pmHey, where’s the anti-war movement’s protest going to be this weekend?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:04 pmFor the record, I graduated high school in 1950, so I’m sure there are geese out there smarter than me. But, I’ll be happy sticking to proving 10 monogamous PEOPLE (whatever the scientific name) per year in the entire world, thank you very much. If anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) has any questions about that, or know any such monogamous people, let me know.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:10 pmCrump’s Brother?
April 13th, 2007 at 2:11 pmake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have!
April 13th, 2007 at 2:13 pmYou can run….. But you cannot hide!!!!
Comment by unbelievable — April 13, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
I am hoping we can get Jake to go to this site…
God is for Suckers
He could argue all he wants there and help keep religious talk off of this site. There is freedom of religion in the USA, however this is a political site and the main reason for the separation of church and state is to prevent decisions from being made that favor one belief over another.
The idea that Bush insists that GOD talks to him is one of the most egregious and disconcerting things that anyone could be expected to believe.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:16 pmFor the record, I graduated high school in 1950,
No way. You’re 25 at the oldest.
so I’m sure there are geese out there smarter than me.
It has nothing to do with when you graduated high school, but with the fact that your refuse to think for yourself.
But, I’ll be happy sticking to proving 10 monogamous PEOPLE (whatever the scientific name) per year in the entire world, thank you very much.
YOU said millions, so I said to prove millions. Anything less makes you a liar…
If anyone (NOT on the “Ignore Listâ€) has any questions about that, or know any such monogamous people, let me know.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
Don’t be passive-agressive. You know you were talking to me, I know it, and so does everyone else. You don’t ignore me for calling you names, you ignore me bcause you cannot answer or respond to my questions… At least not credibly.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:17 pm#96 Jake
What the hell are you talking about, Jake? Wolfowitz is divorced. He’s single and he showed Riza his appreciation for consensual sex by giving her pay raises. I know they did things differently in the 1950’s, but there is more to morality than cheating on your spouse. The hypocrisy lies in Wolfowitz probably practicing safe sex with a woman he’s not married to.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:17 pmJake,
I’ll be back later to debunk the rest of your nonsense. And I will debunk it. I have facts on my side after all…
I just didn’t plan to spend my day off here…
Later
April 13th, 2007 at 2:19 pmComment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
Sheesh! You’re old as dirt! So, more likely you were refering to Homo erectus, H. ergaster, or even H. habilis….
my goal is to find a cure for irony and make a fool outta god
April 13th, 2007 at 2:21 pmLesly:
AFAIK, Mr. Wolfowitz is legally separated, but not yet divorced, from his wife. We also don’t KNOW that he and Ms. Riza are, in fact, having sex together.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:30 pmWolfowitz needs to be behind bars.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:34 pmOnce again, 10 people x 200,000 years = MILLIONS. Every little bit adds up. Once I get done searching “killed on their honeymoon” on Google, then I will at least have enough evidence to submit my application for funding into all the interviews and other investigations whether those couples were virgins, monogamous, etc. If that doesn’t do it, I will next start searching death certificates for couples who were married their entire lives. It really won’t take long to find millions — as I said above, I’m willing to bet it’s been BILLIONS, especially if we can now extrapolate back 3 million years — that means less than ONE person per year : )
April 13th, 2007 at 2:37 pmLesly: AFAIK, Mr. Wolfowitz is legally separated, but not yet divorced, from his wife. We also don’t KNOW that he and Ms. Riza are, in fact, having sex together. Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Then if he isn’t having sex with her, he’s a bigger *sucker* than you are. And that says a lot, loser boy.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:37 pmDon’t forget that Shaha Ali Riza is also divorced, his name is Bulent Aliriza.
Jake how is that about The Pot Calling The Kettle Black??
April 13th, 2007 at 2:38 pmJake, are you really that st*pid? Most marriages involved more than one wife, until very recent history. Polygamy was the norm, not monogamy. In fact it STILL IS in much of the world. I suggest you do some research, you ignorant j*ck*ss little juvenile, before you open that st*pid sh*t filled mouth of yours again.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:39 pm1500 American women are killed each year by their husbands:
http://www.criminalprofiling.com/The-Dynamics-of-Domestic-Abuse_s256.html
April 13th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI’m not sure why my previous links to couple “killed on the honeymoon” are not coming across — I guess we’ll have to start with the 1500 women killed by their husbands every year first . . .
April 13th, 2007 at 2:43 pmCrump’s Brother: I don’t think God “thinks highly†of ANY innocent bing killed. We live in a fallen world, however, and therefore nations have the right to defend themselves. Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Yet your *good-book* says the opposite. Jesus could have fought the romans to *defend-themselves*, but instead he said the path is peace, not war. Just because you are a fallen man, don’t judge everyone on your fallen sins – st*pid little boy.
Whether you think we are fighting terrorists in Iraq, or not, is where I suspect we really disagree. Ironically, while I was gone, the terrorists attacked in North Africa. Like FDR did before, I’d be fine with Bush going into North Africa to attack our enemy there as well. Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
You know, in the roman world, the Israelis were the terrorists. In the colonial world, Americans were the terrorists. Funny how you always find a way to think *you* are right, without having any capacity to see things in a broader context.
As for bush going into North Africa, you mean when he *freed* it from the Axis powers that had attacked us first that had a full military occupation on the place?
Wow, talk about st*pid Jake, you are a complete dum bass little fool.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:43 pm1500 American women are killed each year by their husbands:
http://www.criminalprofiling.com/ The-Dynamics-of-Domestic-Abuse_s256.html Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
That’s because too many husbands grow up to be terrorist minded fanatics like you.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:44 pmComment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Aaaaa haaa,
Jake according to the bible the Earth is only a few thousand years old so how can you check back for marriages 3 million years ago. The fossil record goes back millions of years but there are no marriage records from those days.
Regardless, I’m glad to see that you decided to become a Darwinist and accept that there is no God!
April 13th, 2007 at 2:45 pmIf anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) is interested in the first category: Google search Results 1 – 10 of about 1,010,000 for killed on their honeymoon. (0.09 seconds).
April 13th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI’m not sure why my previous links to couple “killed on the honeymoon†are not coming across — I guess we’ll have to start with the 1500 women killed by their husbands every year first . . . Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
As a Christian *man*, I’m guessing you’re *proud* of that statistic? After all, women and children are just *property* in the *good-book*, right? Heck you even have a right to sell your own children into slavery according to those scriptures. No wonder you’re such a devoted man!
April 13th, 2007 at 2:46 pmIf anyone (NOT on the “Ignore Listâ€) is interested in the first category: Google search Results 1 – 10 of about 1,010,000 for killed on their honeymoon. (0.09 seconds). Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
You don’t know how the *tubes* work do you? That doesn’t mean it found 1 million pages with *all* of those words – dum bass.
Put that sentence in quotes, and come back, and tell us what an illiterate, st*pid little boy you are. Because the results of your search with that exact sentence only returns 92 references.
You’re an idiot Jake. The universe has you on an ignore list, which is why you came out brain damaged!
April 13th, 2007 at 2:48 pmRegardless, I’m glad to see that you decided to become a Darwinist and accept that there is no God! Comment by Saywho — April 13, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Yeah, don’t you just get a chuckle at the inconsistencies of these weirdos? Half the time you can’t tell if they actually believe the sh*t they post, it’s so patently bizarre and st*pid.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:50 pmAnyone else?
April 13th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAnyone else? Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Says the loser that doesn’t know how to use Google on “the tubes”.
Now *that’s* humor jake! I know you wouldn’t recognize it, so I’m doing you a favor and pointing out!
Jake, the loser, loser, loser, thinks he’s smarter than everyone else, but can’t even use google! BAHAHHAAA what an IDIOT!!! BHAHAAHAHAHA
April 13th, 2007 at 3:03 pmI trolled your stupid ass, didn’t I?
April 13th, 2007 at 3:04 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — April 13, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
He must be some sort of BOT put here to add vim and vigor to the posts LMAO
He argues like my 12 YO as is his right. I just wish that TP used forum software like phpBB so we could have real ignore lists!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:05 pmJake the COWARD, what a churlish little boy! He won’t respond to anyone that smears his st*pid nose in his own sh*t! BHAAHA, what a little CHILD Jake is! WAH, WAH, WAH, the little boy cries.
Jake, when your b*lls drop into your sack, and you need people to tell you how to act like a man, come back here. Your parents are failing you.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:05 pmAnyone else?
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Anyone else what?
April 13th, 2007 at 3:08 pmI trolled your stupid ass, didn’t I?
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
If by *trolled*, you mean demonstrated to me and the world what an incompetent idiot you were – well yes. But you know Jake, in the real world, and on the blogs, that’s not an ‘accomplishment’, it’s a failure.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:09 pmHe argues like my 12 YO as is his right. I just wish that TP used forum software like phpBB so we could have real ignore lists! Comment by Saywho — April 13, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
I figure of the blog is going to permit such a stupid child to post his sh*t everywhere, I might as well enjoy showing the world exactly how st*pid he is!
Poor little idiot doesn’t even know that marriages were a property transaction until just over a century ago, and that Victorian times were filled with all sorts of depravity from people locked in unhappy loveless marriages. The only difference then, is that divorce wasn’t something women could generally or easily get, so men could pretty much sh*t on them. I’m sure Jake longs for those times…
April 13th, 2007 at 3:13 pmJake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pmYou can run….. But you cannot hide!!!!
Shocking Revelation on Easter Sunday!
Hi Jake!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:19 pmYou can run….. But you cannot hide!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush — April 13, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
I don’t know, Jake seems to hide full time from reality ;)
Poor little loser boy. I guess he hasn’t gotten the latest video game for his XBOX, so now he’s bored and acting out. I really wish those cheap republican parents would pay for daycare, and stop dropping their brats on the blogs.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:20 pmWolfie is going down in flames. He’s obviously cracking under the pressure and will probably bring down the entire PNAC and the criminals therein. Here comes some great theatre….”now watch this swing”…
April 13th, 2007 at 3:21 pmKeep them poor and ignorant and starving and they wont stand up against you. that is the mantra of the World Bank ( i use the term loosely)!!!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:23 pmThinking of you Jake
April 13th, 2007 at 3:24 pmSaywho, my favorite recent study was the one that showed young men that agreed to the abstinence only program were 6 times more likely to engage in an*l intercourse. I bet Jake has lots of experience with abstinence ;)
April 13th, 2007 at 3:29 pmComment by meg_mac — April 13, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Divide and conquer!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:30 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — April 13, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
Abstinence leads to extinction and in breeding. As a man my purpose is simply to get as many women pregnant as possible before I no longer can. If I happen to hit the back door on the way it never hurts me!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:35 pmSaywho…. the sheeple in America are watching and doing nothing… they will be next!!!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:36 pmSaywho…. that urge was before we developed a front lobe!!
April 13th, 2007 at 3:38 pmComment by meg_mac — April 13, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
I posted the same basic message here many times and so few reply. Humanity is about to face extinction. The military already knows this and is taking steps to protect its self. We have overshot the high limit of human population in relation to the resources we require. Bush is not right nor is he wrong. The military it going to “thin the human herd” before there is nothing left at all!
The basic need for food, shelter and sex all trump everything else.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:55 pmWe also don’t KNOW that he and Ms. Riza are, in fact, having sex together.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
‘Cause Jake always pays his hookers to not have sex with him!
April 13th, 2007 at 4:14 pmWow,
April 13th, 2007 at 4:26 pmComing back from school and got to read some of Jake’s inane posts. If I rememer correctly I started the find me “2 happily sexing monogamous first sexual partner” question
Jake has conveniently dropped the important part of that. The “both partners enjoying sex” part of the monogamous, only one sexualy partner part.
How many did you find. And since your wife has not responded herself, your marraige still doesn’t count as one.
Saywho sez:
We generally don’t reply because we are in agreement with you.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:29 pmGreat piece. We do need support for international health goals, but not guided by ideology. And we need heads of multilateral institutions that are appointed on merit, not political connections.
See:
April 13th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — April 13, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Mmmmmmmm, I didn’t realize that this was the case. I apologize for repeating myself since the scene is already in the score. So, when then is when, or do we lack a central meaning at this point?
April 13th, 2007 at 4:58 pm“But we can’t let him post unanswered”
Yes, actually, you can, and should. Jake (or Chuckles, as we call him over at WashingtonMonthly), like most trolls, thrives on attention. Deprive him of attention and he will eventually disappear.
“or it appears as if we either agree with him, or cannot counter his argument.”
Not really. Chuckles is an obvious troll and most of his points are so bloody stupid that no counter-argument is necessary. Laugh at him or ignore him, but don’t make the mistake of trying to address his arguments seriously.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:04 pmWe also don’t KNOW that he and Ms. Riza are, in fact, having sex together.
Comment by Jake
Man did I know that was coming. Grey areas and plausible deniability are all these nazis are about
April 13th, 2007 at 5:27 pm#5, Whose morals Jake, whose morals? YOurs?, Mine?, Lary Flynt’s?
April 13th, 2007 at 6:47 pmBy the way Jake, I asked a question 2 days ago that you never bothered to answer, sans cut and paste. My father is your age. He was airborne in the Korean war and was sent home with a purple heart, what was you MOS?, perhaps a rear echelon clerk? PLEASE don’t tell me a lie now.
Before you accuse me…I’m retired Air Force, 22 years. Now is the truth in you, SOMEWHERE? Buried deep, perhaps?
April 13th, 2007 at 6:56 pm#81. Thanks. I missed Jake’s challenge:
Jake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have!
What’s the matter Jake???? Can’t you even provide the information like YOU stated you would if anyone provided thiers????? I DID!!!
So Jake. 04/72-07/94:USAF. AFSC (Air Force changed them 3 times and sorry but I never bothered to learn the 3rd change-retirement papers were in, I really didn’t care)
252X0 changed to 251X0, retired as T25190A (the T means Master Instructor, The A was for Rawindsonde operator).
‘72-73: BMTS, 3 level school
‘73-74: Utapao, Thailand
74-76: Kunsan, ROK
76: Forecasters (7 level) school
77-79: Whiteman AFB, MO
79-83: Taegu AB, Korea
86-88: Chanute AFB (instructor duty)
88-94: Vegas (all I can say)
YOU?
Again thanks Remove Bush. I missed the challenge. Three things I deal not at all well with: Lying, hypocrites, and lying, hypocritcal chickhawks
April 13th, 2007 at 7:30 pmI bet ya jakes a hoe.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:10 pmLies won’t bother the likes of the wolf. He does them often, a lot. He’s well versed. I bet he knows rover.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:13 pmMan did I know that was coming. Grey areas and plausible deniability are all these nazis are about Comment by Rocks911 — April 13, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Yeah, and ironic part was Jake was whining about the Clinton “is”/”sex” debate earlier, while engaging in that act himself in this post. Ironic huh?
April 13th, 2007 at 8:32 pmanother dickless winder chickenhawk
April 13th, 2007 at 9:59 pmdisgusting
Could anyone think of a more apporpriate name for someone that would work with Wolfowitz than da boob.
April 14th, 2007 at 6:35 amOnce again, 10 people x 200,000 years = MILLIONS. Every little bit adds up.
Once again – marriage is only 3000 years old! so 10 x 3000 is NOT millions (it’s 30,000). Besides, you can’t use dead people. They aren’t credible. Just admit you made it up…
Once I get done searching “killed on their honeymoon†on Google, then I will at least have enough evidence to submit my application for funding into all the interviews and other investigations whether those couples were virgins, monogamous, etc. If that doesn’t do it, I will next start searching death certificates for couples who were married their entire lives. It really won’t take long to find millions — as I said above, I’m willing to bet it’s been BILLIONS, especially if we can now extrapolate back 3 million years — that means less than ONE person per year : )
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
No, you have to have PEOPLE
And, hello, anyone home? Marriage isn’t 3 million years old.
April 14th, 2007 at 11:32 amI guess we’ll have to start with the 1500 women killed by their husbands every year first . . .
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
What? That’s not SUPPORTING your position – it’s disproving it.
You got nothing, get over it…
April 14th, 2007 at 11:40 am“Yes, actually, you can, and should. Jake (or Chuckles, as we call him over at WashingtonMonthly), like most trolls, thrives on attention. Deprive him of attention and he will eventually disappear.”
Well, I disagree as I’ve been here for a year and a half and I’ve seen evidence to the contrary.
You’re free to ignore him, but I plan to poke holes in every one of is inane messages – or as Trip Master said above, it looks like we agree – and we already see what trouble that has gotten the Left into in teh past.
Not really. Chuckles is an obvious troll and most of his points are so bloody stupid that no counter-argument is necessary. Laugh at him or ignore him, but don’t make the mistake of trying to address his arguments seriously.
Comment by PaulB — April 13, 2007 @ 5:04 pm”
It’s not a mistake. You’ve given no proof – just stated your opinion.
I’m not trying to convert him. He’s beyond that. I’m just showing him and his ilk, as well as those on the fence who read but do not post, the errors in his positions. To not do that creates the percpetion that we cannot, and that gives them the arrogance to talk MORE. My time here has demonstrated that – repeatedly from the trolls. They multiple when think they have the upper hand…
It’s standing up to bullies. And I will continue to do so.
April 14th, 2007 at 11:48 amThe original version of the commandment was ‘Thou shalt not covert they neighbours wife’ NOT ‘Thou shalt not commit adultery’. Multiple wives and sex with unmarried women was allowed and was the norm.
The last ‘old school’ pagans here in the UK were the Vikings and they were around about 1000 years ago and they were not monogamous.
Finally they safest relationship to minimise the spread of HIV/AIDS is actually a lesbian one so may be all men should give up sex to preserve the human race!
April 14th, 2007 at 4:28 pmAnd all these monied entities like the World Bank aren’t taking a position for birth control for married people they are against all birth control. This is all about the disempowerment of women and a patriarchal, Old Testament worldview being used by the very False Prophets the Good Book warned us about.
April 16th, 2007 at 7:55 amEverything going on is born of Jewish Holocaust survivor-turned-atheist Leo Strauss’ “Philosophy of Deception”. The masses are being controlled by religion and ignorance for the benefit of the very rich.
April 19th, 2007 at 9:59 amNothing will likely change until the masses start militaristic acts against the powerful. The Tree of Liberty is fed with the blood of Patriots.
The greatest problem facing planet Earth is growth and development out of control. We are paving the rain forests for lumber, crops and places to live.
The answer is simple: family planning.
Let me ask you, how many children do you have? If you have more than two (other than unusual births, such as triplets) you are guilty of destruction of the planet.
For the record, I have no children, and plan on one child and adoption.
April 26th, 2007 at 3:14 pm