Comments on: Documents Show Wolfowitz Lied About World Bank’s Family Planning Policy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:55:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Daniel Barker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3772196 Daniel Barker Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:14:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3772196 The greatest problem facing planet Earth is growth and development out of control. We are paving the rain forests for lumber, crops and places to live. The answer is simple: family planning. Let me ask you, how many children do you have? If you have more than two (other than unusual births, such as triplets) you are guilty of destruction of the planet. For the record, I have no children, and plan on one child and adoption. The greatest problem facing planet Earth is growth and development out of control. We are paving the rain forests for lumber, crops and places to live.

The answer is simple: family planning.

Let me ask you, how many children do you have? If you have more than two (other than unusual births, such as triplets) you are guilty of destruction of the planet.

For the record, I have no children, and plan on one child and adoption.

]]> By: Shirley Ugest http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3757960 Shirley Ugest Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:59:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3757960 Everything going on is born of Jewish Holocaust survivor-turned-atheist Leo Strauss' "Philosophy of Deception". The masses are being controlled by religion and ignorance for the benefit of the very rich. Nothing will likely change until the masses start militaristic acts against the powerful. The Tree of Liberty is fed with the blood of Patriots. Everything going on is born of Jewish Holocaust survivor-turned-atheist Leo Strauss’ “Philosophy of Deception”. The masses are being controlled by religion and ignorance for the benefit of the very rich.
Nothing will likely change until the masses start militaristic acts against the powerful. The Tree of Liberty is fed with the blood of Patriots.

]]> By: lmwilker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3751041 lmwilker Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:55:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3751041 And all these monied entities like the World Bank aren't taking a position for birth control for married people they are against all birth control. This is all about the disempowerment of women and a patriarchal, Old Testament worldview being used by the very False Prophets the Good Book warned us about. And all these monied entities like the World Bank aren’t taking a position for birth control for married people they are against all birth control. This is all about the disempowerment of women and a patriarchal, Old Testament worldview being used by the very False Prophets the Good Book warned us about.

]]> By: cyberspice http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3729856 cyberspice Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:28:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3729856 The original version of the commandment was 'Thou shalt not covert they neighbours wife' NOT 'Thou shalt not commit adultery'. Multiple wives and sex with unmarried women was allowed and was the norm. The last 'old school' pagans here in the UK were the Vikings and they were around about 1000 years ago and they were not monogamous. Finally they safest relationship to minimise the spread of HIV/AIDS is actually a lesbian one so may be all men should give up sex to preserve the human race! The original version of the commandment was ‘Thou shalt not covert they neighbours wife’ NOT ‘Thou shalt not commit adultery’. Multiple wives and sex with unmarried women was allowed and was the norm.

The last ‘old school’ pagans here in the UK were the Vikings and they were around about 1000 years ago and they were not monogamous.

Finally they safest relationship to minimise the spread of HIV/AIDS is actually a lesbian one so may be all men should give up sex to preserve the human race!

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3725579 unbelievable Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:48:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3725579 "Yes, actually, you can, and should. Jake (or Chuckles, as we call him over at WashingtonMonthly), like most trolls, thrives on attention. Deprive him of attention and he will eventually disappear." Well, I disagree as I've been here for a year and a half and I've seen evidence to the contrary. You're free to ignore him, but I plan to poke holes in every one of is inane messages - or as Trip Master said above, it looks like we agree - and we already see what trouble that has gotten the Left into in teh past. Not really. Chuckles is an obvious troll and most of his points are so bloody stupid that no counter-argument is necessary. Laugh at him or ignore him, but don’t make the mistake of trying to address his arguments seriously. Comment by PaulB — April 13, 2007 @ 5:04 pm" It's not a mistake. You've given no proof - just stated your opinion. I'm not trying to convert him. He's beyond that. I'm just showing him and his ilk, as well as those on the fence who read but do not post, the errors in his positions. To not do that creates the percpetion that we cannot, and that gives them the arrogance to talk MORE. My time here has demonstrated that - repeatedly from the trolls. They multiple when think they have the upper hand... It's standing up to bullies. And I will continue to do so. “Yes, actually, you can, and should. Jake (or Chuckles, as we call him over at WashingtonMonthly), like most trolls, thrives on attention. Deprive him of attention and he will eventually disappear.”

Well, I disagree as I’ve been here for a year and a half and I’ve seen evidence to the contrary.

You’re free to ignore him, but I plan to poke holes in every one of is inane messages – or as Trip Master said above, it looks like we agree – and we already see what trouble that has gotten the Left into in teh past.

Not really. Chuckles is an obvious troll and most of his points are so bloody stupid that no counter-argument is necessary. Laugh at him or ignore him, but don’t make the mistake of trying to address his arguments seriously.
Comment by PaulB — April 13, 2007 @ 5:04 pm”

It’s not a mistake. You’ve given no proof – just stated your opinion.

I’m not trying to convert him. He’s beyond that. I’m just showing him and his ilk, as well as those on the fence who read but do not post, the errors in his positions. To not do that creates the percpetion that we cannot, and that gives them the arrogance to talk MORE. My time here has demonstrated that – repeatedly from the trolls. They multiple when think they have the upper hand…

It’s standing up to bullies. And I will continue to do so.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3725557 unbelievable Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:40:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3725557 <em>I guess we’ll have to start with the 1500 women killed by their husbands every year first . . . Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:43 pm</em><em> What? That's not SUPPORTING your position - it's disproving it. You got nothing, get over it...</em> I guess we’ll have to start with the 1500 women killed by their husbands every year first . . .
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:43 pm

What? That’s not SUPPORTING your position – it’s disproving it.

You got nothing, get over it…

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3725541 unbelievable Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:32:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3725541 <em>Once again, 10 people x 200,000 years = MILLIONS. Every little bit adds up.</em><em> Once again - marriage is only 3000 years old! so 10 x 3000 is NOT millions (it's 30,000). Besides, you can't use dead people. They aren't credible. Just admit you made it up... </em><em>Once I get done searching “killed on their honeymoon” on Google, then I will at least have enough evidence to submit my application for funding into all the interviews and other investigations whether those couples were virgins, monogamous, etc. If that doesn’t do it, I will next start searching death certificates for couples who were married their entire lives. It really won’t take long to find millions — as I said above, I’m willing to bet it’s been BILLIONS, especially if we can now extrapolate back 3 million years — that means less than ONE person per year : ) Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:37 pm</em> No, you have to have PEOPLE And, hello, anyone home? Marriage isn't 3 million years old. Once again, 10 people x 200,000 years = MILLIONS. Every little bit adds up.

Once again – marriage is only 3000 years old! so 10 x 3000 is NOT millions (it’s 30,000). Besides, you can’t use dead people. They aren’t credible. Just admit you made it up…

Once I get done searching “killed on their honeymoon” on Google, then I will at least have enough evidence to submit my application for funding into all the interviews and other investigations whether those couples were virgins, monogamous, etc. If that doesn’t do it, I will next start searching death certificates for couples who were married their entire lives. It really won’t take long to find millions — as I said above, I’m willing to bet it’s been BILLIONS, especially if we can now extrapolate back 3 million years — that means less than ONE person per year : )
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 2:37 pm

No, you have to have PEOPLE

And, hello, anyone home? Marriage isn’t 3 million years old.

]]> By: Blue in Texas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3720472 Blue in Texas Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:35:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3720472 Could anyone think of a more apporpriate name for someone that would work with Wolfowitz than da boob. Could anyone think of a more apporpriate name for someone that would work with Wolfowitz than da boob.

]]> By: null http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3710262 null Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:59:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3710262 another dickless winder chickenhawk disgusting another dickless winder chickenhawk
disgusting

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3707603 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:32:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3707603 <em>Man did I know that was coming. Grey areas and plausible deniability are all these nazis are about Comment by Rocks911 — April 13, 2007 @ 5:27 pm</em> Yeah, and ironic part was Jake was whining about the Clinton "is"/"sex" debate earlier, while engaging in that act himself in this post. Ironic huh? Man did I know that was coming. Grey areas and plausible deniability are all these nazis are about Comment by Rocks911 — April 13, 2007 @ 5:27 pm

Yeah, and ironic part was Jake was whining about the Clinton “is”/”sex” debate earlier, while engaging in that act himself in this post. Ironic huh?

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3707236 theswan Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:13:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3707236 Lies won't bother the likes of the wolf. He does them often, a lot. He's well versed. I bet he knows rover. Lies won’t bother the likes of the wolf. He does them often, a lot. He’s well versed. I bet he knows rover.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3707160 theswan Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:10:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3707160 I bet ya jakes a hoe. I bet ya jakes a hoe.

]]> By: John M, USAF, RET http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3706440 John M, USAF, RET Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:30:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3706440 #81. Thanks. I missed Jake's challenge: Jake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have! What’s the matter Jake???? Can’t you even provide the information like YOU stated you would if anyone provided thiers????? I DID!!! So Jake. 04/72-07/94:USAF. AFSC (Air Force changed them 3 times and sorry but I never bothered to learn the 3rd change-retirement papers were in, I really didn't care) 252X0 changed to 251X0, retired as T25190A (the T means Master Instructor, The A was for Rawindsonde operator). '72-73: BMTS, 3 level school '73-74: Utapao, Thailand 74-76: Kunsan, ROK 76: Forecasters (7 level) school 77-79: Whiteman AFB, MO 79-83: Taegu AB, Korea 86-88: Chanute AFB (instructor duty) 88-94: Vegas (all I can say) YOU? Again thanks Remove Bush. I missed the challenge. Three things I deal not at all well with: Lying, hypocrites, and lying, hypocritcal chickhawks #81. Thanks. I missed Jake’s challenge:
Jake….. Still waiting for that UN-PLAGERIZED military experience you claim you have!

What’s the matter Jake???? Can’t you even provide the information like YOU stated you would if anyone provided thiers????? I DID!!!

So Jake. 04/72-07/94:USAF. AFSC (Air Force changed them 3 times and sorry but I never bothered to learn the 3rd change-retirement papers were in, I really didn’t care)
252X0 changed to 251X0, retired as T25190A (the T means Master Instructor, The A was for Rawindsonde operator).
‘72-73: BMTS, 3 level school
‘73-74: Utapao, Thailand
74-76: Kunsan, ROK
76: Forecasters (7 level) school
77-79: Whiteman AFB, MO
79-83: Taegu AB, Korea
86-88: Chanute AFB (instructor duty)
88-94: Vegas (all I can say)

YOU?

Again thanks Remove Bush. I missed the challenge. Three things I deal not at all well with: Lying, hypocrites, and lying, hypocritcal chickhawks

]]> By: John M, USAF, RET http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3705738 John M, USAF, RET Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:56:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3705738 By the way Jake, I asked a question 2 days ago that you never bothered to answer, sans cut and paste. My father is your age. He was airborne in the Korean war and was sent home with a purple heart, what was you MOS?, perhaps a rear echelon clerk? PLEASE don't tell me a lie now. Before you accuse me...I'm retired Air Force, 22 years. Now is the truth in you, SOMEWHERE? Buried deep, perhaps? By the way Jake, I asked a question 2 days ago that you never bothered to answer, sans cut and paste. My father is your age. He was airborne in the Korean war and was sent home with a purple heart, what was you MOS?, perhaps a rear echelon clerk? PLEASE don’t tell me a lie now.

Before you accuse me…I’m retired Air Force, 22 years. Now is the truth in you, SOMEWHERE? Buried deep, perhaps?

]]> By: John M, USAF, RET http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3705504 John M, USAF, RET Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:47:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3705504 #5, Whose morals Jake, whose morals? YOurs?, Mine?, Lary Flynt's? #5, Whose morals Jake, whose morals? YOurs?, Mine?, Lary Flynt’s?

]]> By: Rocks911 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3704026 Rocks911 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:27:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3704026 We also don’t KNOW that he and Ms. Riza are, in fact, having sex together. Comment by Jake Man did I know that was coming. Grey areas and plausible deniability are all these nazis are about We also don’t KNOW that he and Ms. Riza are, in fact, having sex together.

Comment by Jake

Man did I know that was coming. Grey areas and plausible deniability are all these nazis are about

]]> By: PaulB http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3703473 PaulB Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:04:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3703473 "<i>But we can’t let him post unanswered</i>" Yes, actually, you can, and should. Jake (or Chuckles, as we call him over at WashingtonMonthly), like most trolls, thrives on attention. Deprive him of attention and he will eventually disappear. "<i>or it appears as if we either agree with him, or cannot counter his argument.</i>" Not really. Chuckles is an obvious troll and most of his points are so bloody stupid that no counter-argument is necessary. Laugh at him or ignore him, but don't make the mistake of trying to address his arguments seriously. “But we can’t let him post unanswered”

Yes, actually, you can, and should. Jake (or Chuckles, as we call him over at WashingtonMonthly), like most trolls, thrives on attention. Deprive him of attention and he will eventually disappear.

“or it appears as if we either agree with him, or cannot counter his argument.”

Not really. Chuckles is an obvious troll and most of his points are so bloody stupid that no counter-argument is necessary. Laugh at him or ignore him, but don’t make the mistake of trying to address his arguments seriously.

]]> By: Saywho http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3703316 Saywho Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:58:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3703316 <em>Comment by TripMaster Monkey — April 13, 2007 @ 4:29 pm</em> Mmmmmmmm, I didn't realize that this was the case. I apologize for repeating myself since the scene is already in the score. So, when then is when, or do we lack a central meaning at this point? Comment by TripMaster Monkey — April 13, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

Mmmmmmmm, I didn’t realize that this was the case. I apologize for repeating myself since the scene is already in the score. So, when then is when, or do we lack a central meaning at this point?

]]> By: Alex Wilks http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3703247 Alex Wilks Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:54:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3703247 Great piece. We <em>do</em> need support for international health goals, but not guided by ideology. And we need heads of multilateral institutions that are appointed on merit, not political connections. See: <a href="http://www.worldbankpresident.org" rel="nofollow"></a> Great piece. We do need support for international health goals, but not guided by ideology. And we need heads of multilateral institutions that are appointed on merit, not political connections.

See:

]]> By: TripMaster Monkey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/comment-page-4/#comment-3702743 TripMaster Monkey Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:29:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/wolfowitz-family-planning/#comment-3702743 Saywho sez: <blockquote><em>I posted the same basic message here many times and so few reply. Humanity is about to face extinction.</em></blockquote> We generally don't reply because we are in agreement with you. Saywho sez:

I posted the same basic message here many times and so few reply. Humanity is about to face extinction.

We generally don’t reply because we are in agreement with you.

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