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By Nico Pitney on Apr 15th, 2007 at 10:18 am

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Percentage of Americans who believe that Congress should allow funding only with a time limit (58 percent) or block all funding for the war in Iraq (9 percent), according to a new CBS poll. Fully 69 percent believe the escalation in Iraq has either made conditions worse (26 percent) or made no impact (43 percent), compared to 25 percent who believe it’s made conditions better.




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  1. Jake Says:

    LOL — only 9% want to block all funding?!


  2. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    Meanwhile, back at the surge:

    Two car bombs exploded minutes apart in a busy Baghdad market in a mainly Shiite district Sunday, killing at least 18 people, police said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070415/ ap_on_re_mi_ea/ iraq


  3. Jake Says:

    For the record, no Americans were killed by those two car bombs. As I’ve said before, better to fight the terrorists there than here.


  4. smafdy Says:

    Only 9% of those polled were thinking clearly? Too much Prozac being prescribed in the US.


  5. whiteyfresh Says:

    top o’ the mid-mornin to ya Jake! Just now crawling out of bed?
    (I’ve been at work since 7am. For an idea of my boredom earlier, check out the Webb thread, around comment 72((ish)) and beyond…)


  6. Erroll Says:

    As Congressman Dennis Kucinich correctly points out, the Democrats cannot claim that they oppose the war if they do not support cutting off the funds. The Democrats have the power to stop the occupation. They were put in power last November because they promised they were going to end the illegal occpation of Iraq. It is long past the point that they keep their promise that they made to the American people. Congress-do your job-end this unnecessary occupation and bloodshed-cut off the funds-now.


  7. Jake Says:

    As for the poll results, I’m glad 25% at least realize the surge has made conditions better. Still, with all the media bias,, I would have thought more than 9% by now would want block all funding for the war in Iraq. I mean, come on, Feingold, his staff, and those who post here = 9%. That’s pretty pathetic. And here, I thought I was the one in the tiny minority. Gotta go finish the LA Times and watch Russert now.


  8. chris L Says:

    LOL - only 33% believe we should have no time limit and fight an endless war forever?! Well I guess you can fool some of the people all of the time. BTW, Jake, who is the enemy in Iraq?


  9. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    better to fight the terrorists there than here

    Problem is, the terrorists are here.

    http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm


  10. smafdy Says:

    Check The Washington Post for Gonzales’ latest excuse for his acts against our Constitution and America/Americans. Filthy lying whore.


  11. Jake Says:

    For the record, even I believe that Congress should allow funding only with a time limit as well — how does January 21, 2009 sound as a compromise?


  12. chris L Says:

    Comment by Jake — April 15, 2007 @ 10:29 am

    So if they weren’t Americans then they must have been terrorists? Jake, how does policing a civil war between the Sunnis and the Shiites in Iraq keep Saudis from flying planes into our buildings?


  13. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    “I don’t think that the majority of the Democrats in Congress want to leave America’s fighting forces in harm’s way without the resources they need to defend themselves,” Cheney said on the CBS program “Face the Nation.”

    Right. That’s Bush’s job!

    -troops sent to Iraq without sufficient equipment.
    -troops sent to Iraq without sufficient armor.
    -troops sent to Iraq without sufficient weapons.
    -troops sent to Iraq without sufficient ammunition.
    -troops sent to Iraq without completing their training.


  14. Jake Says:

    How’s it hangin’ whiteyfresh?! You’ve always been very civil to me. Too bad some other people have questions for me, though. They should have thought about that BEFORE resorting to personal attacks and/or refusing to answer MY questions — see you around.


  15. smafdy Says:

    Check this: 0% of Bush Admin policies have resulted in positive results for America.

    Not to worry, things are looking up.

    Sheesh.


  16. kdoug Says:

    Here is the remaining 33%: Here.


  17. VerbalKint Says:

    Jake, you are an ugly person. You have ugly in your soul.


  18. chris L Says:

    As for the poll results, I’m glad 25% at least realize the surge has made conditions better.
    #

    Comment by Jake — April 15, 2007 @ 10:32 am
    #

    How? We have had numerous American deaths every day since the surge began. Violence against our troops has increased. This is not left-wing propoganda. This is documented fact. Turkey is considering a strike against Iraq and a Northern invasion because of the PKK Kurdish Workers Party attacking them across their border. Conditions have gotten worse in Southern Iraq where Shiite cleric al-Sadr and his Mehdi Army are in control. Or is this what you consider success? Who is the enemy in Iraq Jake?


  19. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    15 - 100% of Bush Admin policies have resulted in greater profits for War Profiteers and the rest of His base.


  20. whiteyfresh Says:

    jAKE:LEAVING ALREADY??


  21. republic of stupidity Says:

    “better to fight the terrorists there than here”

    So Jake, when will you be enlisting?


  22. smafdy Says:

    Oh Jake - please, please answer our questions. Ever since you started giving us the silent treatment, we haven’t been able to eat or sleep. What will we do without you? Whatever will we do…? Everybody loves Jake!


  23. barfly Says:

    For the record, here’s Jake from the other day, responding to me, after putting me on his mythical “ignore list”:

    “The FIRST job of the government is to PROTECT the people.” Jake

    “Um, I thought it was to uphold the Constitution? Or has that changed since 9/11?”
    Comment by barfly — April 13, 2007 @ 4:22 pm

    And here’s Jake, responding to me, and thus destroying the integrity of his precious ignore list:

    “For the record, if all the People are killed by terrorists with suitcase nukes, it matters no longer to uphold the Constitution.” Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 4:24 pm

    And the “list” dies a well deserved death - or do you think I won’t follow you around from thread to thread, posting this?

    Jake’s newest dodge is “For the record … ” when he answers you, while seeming not to.

    How juvenile.


  24. chris L Says:

    They should have thought about that BEFORE resorting to personal attacks and/or refusing to answer MY questions — see you around.

    Comment by Jake — April 15, 2007 @ 10:36 am

    Jake, you are just helping me out. Anyone reading these threads sees me constantly poking holes in everything you state and you just sitting there with no response. Who is the enemy in Iraq Jake? Don’t worry if you can’t answer. I was there for more than a year, and I can’t tell you who the enemy is.


  25. chris L Says:

    0. The perrcentage of the American population who know who the enemy is in Iraq.


  26. barfly Says:

    As TP ‘ers can clearly see, Jake’s list is bogus; he answers people on the list, while trying to make it appear that he isn’t answering them. How long will he keep this up, now that he’s been revealed? We’ll see, as I’ll be tracking him around, to show everyone who might happen upon TP that Jake is a flake.


  27. barfly Says:

    Comment by chris L

    Watch his “for the record” comments; that where he talks to those on his “list.”


  28. jeff Says:

    Meanwhile, Carl Levin is this week’s FOX democrat.

    Did anyone hear Juan Williams this week blaming blacks for racists remarks against blacks? On NPR. With Steve Inskeep.


  29. whiteyfresh Says:

    chris L: I know!! Its El Quaieda, no, no, wait…Islamo Jihad-facsististimos!..no, that’s been shot down too. OOH! People who hate our freedom! that MUST be it. Right? RIGHT?

    **snarkiness in full effect**


  30. chris L Says:

    What is the mission in Iraq? What do our tank drivers, artillerymen, and infantry soldiers need to accomplish before they can come home? How long will this war go on? Victory means exit strategy, and our president needs to tell us what that exit strategy is.


  31. jeff Says:

    Meanwhile, Carl Levin is this week’s FOX democrat.

    Did anyone hear Juan Williams this week blaming blacks for racists remarks against blacks? On NPR. With Steve Inskeep. —


  32. whiteyfresh Says:

    #11: That’s actually kind of freakin funny…..


  33. chris L Says:

    “I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”


  34. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    11 - only if you personally accompany the military officers as they tell parents and loved ones of their son’s/daughter’s/husband’s/wife’s/father’s/mother’s death between today and January 21, 2009.

    Their loved one will have died, just so Bush’s War won’t end on Bush’s watch. Their lives will be extinguished, just so Bush can falsely claim He was winning the war, and falsely lay the blame for His fiasco on someone else.

    You can explain to them your compromise which postponed doing the right thing in Iraq, and, as a result, their loved one got blown to bits. You can give them the flag from the coffin, and thank them for their loved one’s sacrifice.

    Plan on visiting 3-4 (or more) families a day, 7 days a week, from now until then. That’s over 2,000 visits, 2,000 more American women and men blown to pieces, 2,000 more families destroyed. 2,000 more mothers clutching a flag instead of their son or daughter.


  35. pgw Says:

    hmmm. 25% say the escalation is “working”, but for some reason those same folks don’t want to redeploy american soldiers 11 months from now.


  36. Dear Kitty. Some blog :: UK: the suspicious death of Dr David Kelly and the Iraq war :: April :: 2007 Says:

    […] Des Browne said. Psychology of Bush’s and Blair’s ’stay the course’ Iraq war policy: here. Comments […]


  37. Dear Kitty. Some blog :: UK: the suspicious death of Dr David Kelly and the Iraq war :: April :: 2007 Says:

    […] Des Browne said. Psychology of Bush’s and Blair’s ’stay the course’ Iraq war policy: here. Comments […]


  38. WaltTheMan Says:

    Comment by Jake — April 15, 2007 @ 10:32 am

    … Gotta go finish the LA Times and watch Russert now.

    Glad to hear that you’re paper trained at last. Do you really need the whole Sunday paper before 11AM?


  39. Jimbo Says:

    LISTEN DUDE…….

    THERE SHOULDN’T BE

    ANY
    FUNDING
    WHATSOEVER……….

    IT WILL END UP IN SOMEONES ROLL ROYCE
    OR A YACHT
    OR A FREEZER
    OR OFF SHORE

    BECAUSE
    IT’S
    ALL
    DOG
    GONE
    TOTALLY
    CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FOR
    ALL
    THE
    WONDERFUL
    SERVICES
    WE
    ALL
    GET
    CAN’T GET THEM
    DOESN’T MATTER…………

    ENOUGH TO DOG GONE

    P
    U
    K
    E


  40. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell Says:

    LOL — only 9% want to block all funding?!

    LOL. YES, and fully 67% blocking or FUNDING ONLY WITH A TIMELINE.

    And “jake” the DOMESTIC TERRORIST, who threatened to blow up the NYT on THESE BOARDS, will NEVER answer:

    WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH and

    SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH about their involvement with 9/11, the Bin Ladens, and the SAUDI TERRORIST FINANCIERS.

    But WHAT can you expect from a DOMESTIC TERRORIST like “jake”?

    LOL!!


  41. Jake Says:

    #32 Thanks, whiteyfresh.


  42. Jimbo Says:

    LISTEN DUDE

    I AGREE
    WE GET HALF
    AND
    YOU GET HALF

    BECAUSE ALL THE DESPERATELY NEEDED SERVICE YOU NEED

    TRY TO GET THEM

    BET YOU CAN’T

    BECAUSE

    PAY FOR TOMS KNOWS LISA KNOWS TIM KNOWS

    CHAIRS ARE EXPENSIVE LIKE $25,000 SILK COVERED CHAIRS

    AND SO ARE YACHTS FOR A NICE DEFENSE CONTRACT

    PAY $200 FOR A ITEM WORTH $15 BECAUSE OF ALL THE PARASITES
    AND LEECHES TOO, POLITICAL PARASITES/LEECHES

    FAST TALKING
    SMOOTH TALKING
    AND WE AREN’T TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DOLLARS

    ALWAYS RUNNING OUT OF MONEY
    HARDLY HAVE ANY MONEY
    BUDDY…. SURE WE CAN OVER INFLATE IT 200,300,1000%

    AFTER ALL THE ELF’S POT, AND ONCE THEY ARE DONE

    IT’S
    A
    BUNCH
    OF EMPTY IOU’S… BUT I PAID SS
    DOESN’T MATTER

    VACUUM CLEANER SNAKE OIL BUSH LOADS UP HIS MOTORCADE
    SELLING OUT HIS SWINDLER, PARASITES AND BROKERAGE BUDDIES

    ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU

    P
    U
    K
    E

    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO MORE FUNDING, A BUNCH OF PARASITES/POLITICAL LEECHES


  43. Jimbo Says:

    DUDE………..

    IT’S
    RIGGED
    MAN
    RIGGED

    FUNDING ENDS UP IN SOME PARASITES POCKET

    DUDE

    IT ENDS UP IN SHINY NEW COMPUTERS BECAUSE
    OF ALL THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INVOLVING

    BUSH
    CHENEY
    ROVE
    GONZALES

    ERASE HARD DRIVES… WHAT’S THE USE, 25 DUMPSTERS ORDERED
    ALL PERFECTLY GOOD COMPUTERS GO IN THE TRASH BECAUSE WE
    HAVE TO GET RID OF EMAILS

    NO
    MORE
    DOG
    GONE
    FUNDING

    THAT IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO TAKE WHAT’S WORTH
    $1 AND MAKE IT WORTH ONE PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO
    MORE
    FUNDING

    UNTIL THE CORRUPT POLITICAL LEECHES ARE TOLD

    STAY
    AT
    HOME

    AND THERE’S SOME SERIOUS CRIMINAL REFORM, THEN ONCE
    ALL THE SWINDLERS ARE GONE… THEN FUNDING CAN BE
    REINSTATED

    JIMBO DUDE ALWAYS SPEAKS TRUTH DUDE……….

    BECAUSE IT’S RIGGED DUDE RIGGED :)


  44. Jimbo Says:

    DUDE………..

    IT’S
    RIGGED
    MAN
    RIGGED

    FUNDING ENDS UP IN SOME PARASITES POCKET

    DUDE

    IT ENDS UP IN SHINY NEW COMPUTERS BECAUSE
    OF ALL THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INVOLVING

    BUSH
    CHENEY
    ROVE
    GONZALES

    ERASE HARD DRIVES… WHAT’S THE USE, 25 DUMPSTERS ORDERED
    ALL PERFECTLY GOOD COMPUTERS GO IN THE TRASH BECAUSE WE
    HAVE TO GET RID OF EMAILS

    NO
    MORE
    DOG
    GONE
    FUNDING

    THAT IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO TAKE WHAT’S WORTH
    $1 AND MAKE IT WORTH ONE PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO
    MORE
    FUNDING

    UNTIL THE CORRUPT POLITICAL LEECHES ARE TOLD

    STAY
    AT
    HOME

    AND THERE’S SOME SERIOUS CRIMINAL REFORM, THEN ONCE
    ALL THE SWINDLERS ARE GONE… THEN FUNDING CAN BE
    REINSTATED

    JIMBO DUDE ALWAYS SPEAKS TRUTH DUDE……….

    BECAUSE IT’S RIGGED DUDE RIGGED :)

    SEE….

    YOU SCRATCH MY BACK
    &
    I’LL SCRATCH YOUR BACK

    WITH A
    YACHT
    OR
    A
    MANSION


  45. Jake Says:

    The preceding rants were brought to you by the letter “U” and the number 9%.


  46. bob (not the hacker) Says:

    When will jake serve his country by going to Iraq and fighting? For the record, the answer is never: he is a new age republican coward who would rather have other people die or be maimed for life than admit he and the man he voted for is wrong. So much for bush’s era of resposniblity…


  47. Jake Says:

    For the record, I served in the Army during the Korean War.


  48. big papa Says:

    Did anyone hear Juan Williams this week blaming blacks for racists remarks against blacks? On NPR. With Steve Inskeep. —

    Comment by jeff #31

    jeff,

    Juan Williams has been a regular on the Fox right wing Bushite Propaganda network for how long?

    …if you gave that self-hating Ceeracka wannabe a pill to turn himself White…

    …he’d eat the bottle…

    …he’s a closet Armstrong Williams, Jesse Peterson, and J.C.Watts…

    …all rolled into one…


  49. chris L Says:

    #

    For the record, I served in the Army during the Korean War.

    Comment by Jake — April 15, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
    #

    For the record, I served in Baghdad during Operation Iraqi Freedom from 2003 to 2004. What is our military mission in Iraq, Jake. Who is the enemy? The mission of the Korean war was to fight the spread of communism. The enemy was the North Korean military.


  50. Jake Says:

    Anyone ELSE who did not resort to personal attacks and/or answered my questions?


  51. chris L Says:

    #

    Anyone ELSE who did not resort to personal attacks and/or answered my questions?

    Comment by Jake — April 15, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
    #

    When did I do either of these? What was your MOS in the Army, Jake? Who is the enemy in Iraq? Don’t feel bad if you can’t answer that last question. No one can.


  52. chris L Says:

    From WashingtonPost today:

    “On the afternoon of July 8, 2006, four private security guards rolled out of Baghdad’s Green Zone in an armored SUV. The team leader, Jacob C. Washbourne, rode in the front passenger seat. He seemed in a good mood. His vacation started the next day.

    “I want to kill somebody today,” Washbourne said, according to the three other men in the vehicle, who later recalled it as an offhand remark. Before the day was over, however, the guards had been involved in three shooting incidents. In one, Washbourne allegedly fired into the windshield of a taxi for amusement, according to interviews and statements from the three other guards.”

    Looks like Blackwater is starting to eat their own.


  53. Jake Says:

    For the record, the only ways to get on the “Ignore List” is to resort to personal attacks and/or refuse to answer my questions — all I ask for is Common Courtesy — but, I don’t keep track of what day and time people get added to the IGNORE List. I’m sorry, but I won’t answer any more questions once you get added to the IGNORE List. That would kinda defeat the whole purpose of the IGNORE List.


  54. chris L Says:

    Comment by Jake — April 15, 2007 @ 5:36 pm

    You do realize you are actually helping everyone on your ignore list don’t you? We can post anything we want without you refuting anything. By the way, my daughter has an ignore list too. She is nine years old.


  55. Jake Says:

    Anyone else?


  56. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell Says:

    Everyone, time to ignore “jaKE” the DOMESTIC TERRORIST who has THREATENED TO BLOW UP THE NY Times.

    He is another TRAITOR and COWARD like

    MURDERER Bush the TRAITOR coxucker PUNK.

    who will BURN IN HELL.

    See you in hell “TERRORIST jake” (cause I’LL be THERE…),

    Mr. Bush
    MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
    TRAITOR to the USA


  57. pgw Says:

    great moments in troll history:

    “Anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss the specifics of how an OB/GYN can examine the hymen on females, or any other possible options, let me know.

    Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 11:05 pm”


  58. Jake Says:

    For the record, I never threatened to blow up the NYT building, and the discussion about “proving virginity” came up in an abstinence-only thread.


  59. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell Says:

    For the record, “jake” IS a DOMESTIC TERRORIST and DID threaten to blow up the NYT Building.

    PROOF:

    http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 04/ 13/ we-are-trying-to-muddy-the-coverage/ #comment-3702200

    So, “jake” IS a TRAITOR, LIAR, and DOMESTIC TERRORIST…

    See you in hell “jake” (cause I’LL be THERE…),

    Mr. Bush
    MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
    TRAITOR to the USA


  60. JPark Says:

    #56 And you were certifiable in both threads. Crazy as a loon.


  61. Jake Says:

    If anyone NOT “certifiable” or on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss HOW to prove one’s virginity then, let me know.


  62. Mr. Bush Goes To Hell Says:

    For the RECORD, “jake” is a DOMESTIC TERRORIST, and has threatened to blow up the NY Times.

    Just like TRAITOR Bush the MURDERER coxucker PUNK.

    See you in hell “jake” (cause I’LL be THERE),

    Mr. Bush
    MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
    COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA
    (For the RECORD)


  63. Chinese politburo Says:

    Pls stay in Iraq, pleassse stay in Iraq, pleassssee stay in Iraq.

    Pls don’t build new schools or roads or rebuild New Orleans or improve health care.

    Pls just stay in Iraq and become a failed state back home. Better still fight Iran!

    hahaahahahahahahaah


  64. Chinese politburo Says:

    Oh!!! And please change the law so that Bush can win another term!! pleeeaaasseeee!

    We love him!!!

    hahaahahahahaahah


  65. Chinese politburo Says:

    With enemies like this (i.e. Bush), who needs friends!!!

    Hahahaahahahaahah



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