Comments on: Dispatches from Iraq. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:24:38 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: miguel http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753325 miguel Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:08:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753325 Is there anyway to get the 30% Bush Deadenders on the frontline? You would think they would put up a better fight. Is there anyway to get the 30% Bush Deadenders on the frontline? You would think they would put up a better fight.

]]> By: Proud Dem http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753282 Proud Dem Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:49:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753282 <em>We know whats best for iraq better than they do. The Iraqis should have no say in how long we stay. Comment by Jake</em> Well, that's all well and good, IF WE WERE PARENTS!!!!! We (America) are not the parents of Iraq. If they want us out, we should get out. You know, Jake...they make pills to stop the advancement of Alzheimer's now. I suggest you take it.... SULOGA! We know whats best for iraq better than they do. The Iraqis should have no say in how long we stay.

Comment by Jake

Well, that’s all well and good, IF WE WERE PARENTS!!!!! We (America) are not the parents of Iraq. If they want us out, we should get out.

You know, Jake…they make pills to stop the advancement of Alzheimer’s now. I suggest you take it….

SULOGA!

]]> By: iamlgnd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753253 iamlgnd Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:26:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753253 I too would like to see Jake's biographical info WaltTheMan Can you please post it here or at least the link to it. I too would like to see Jake’s biographical info WaltTheMan

Can you please post it here or at least the link to it.

]]> By: Jake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753228 Jake Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:57:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753228 <strong>Yesterday, members of the Iraqi parliament representing all of those parties—Fadhila, Allawi’s bloc and the Sunni parties—held an unprecedented teleconference with a dozen members of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, an event organized by Representative Jim McDermott (D.-Wash.). Fadhila’s Nadim al-Jaberi took part in the teleconference, and he minced no words. “Putting a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops is a very important step in giving Iraqis confidence that the occupation will end,” he said. </strong> If the iraqis were smart enough to know when they were free, they would have freed themselves. We know whats best for iraq better than they do. The Iraqis should have no say in how long we stay. Yesterday, members of the Iraqi parliament representing all of those parties—Fadhila, Allawi’s bloc and the Sunni parties—held an unprecedented teleconference with a dozen members of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, an event organized by Representative Jim McDermott (D.-Wash.). Fadhila’s Nadim al-Jaberi took part in the teleconference, and he minced no words. “Putting a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops is a very important step in giving Iraqis confidence that the occupation will end,” he said.

If the iraqis were smart enough to know when they were free, they would have freed themselves. We know whats best for iraq better than they do. The Iraqis should have no say in how long we stay.

]]> By: Raven http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753222 Raven Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:34:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753222 That, and their own lives... That, and their own lives…

]]> By: dorothy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753221 dorothy Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:30:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753221 The purpose of the surge is to keep the whole house of cards from coming down until after Bush is out of office. Our soldiers are now fighting for the republican party. The purpose of the surge is to keep the whole house of cards from coming down until after Bush is out of office. Our soldiers are now fighting for the republican party.

]]> By: Topper Harley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753215 Topper Harley Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753215 Thanks #34 Don't tell me this war isn't about oil. Thanks #34

Don’t tell me this war isn’t about oil.

]]> By: klyde http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753213 klyde Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:00:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753213 50,000 Iraqis a month flee the country. Many are now living in sqaulid conditions in Syria and Jordan. For some reason the US wants the EU to: pony up money to support the refugees and take in the refrugees. Pardon me for seeming cynical but shouldn't the people responsible for the mess be responsible for cleaning it up? For those not paying attention that would be the US, UK, AZ, IT and Poland we can't forget Poland. 50,000 Iraqis a month flee the country. Many are now living in sqaulid conditions in Syria and Jordan. For some reason the US wants the EU to: pony up money to support the refugees and take in the refrugees.

Pardon me for seeming cynical but shouldn’t the people responsible for the mess be responsible for cleaning it up?

For those not paying attention that would be the US, UK, AZ, IT and Poland we can’t forget Poland.

]]> By: Raven http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753211 Raven Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:51:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753211 Thanks for that link, Tobey. A city destroyed. From the flooding in the streets, it appears infrastructure has been demolished as well. Thanks for that link, Tobey.
A city destroyed.
From the flooding in the streets, it appears infrastructure has
been demolished as well.

]]> By: Raven http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753210 Raven Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:43:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753210 US forces killed 3 Iraqi policemen in Ramadi yeaterday. Another friendly fire incident. (Just how friendly is firing a gun, anyways?) US forces killed 3 Iraqi policemen in Ramadi yeaterday.
Another friendly fire incident.
(Just how friendly is firing a gun, anyways?)

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753206 Tobey Tall Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:24:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753206 <a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=900_1176763058" rel="nofollow">here we go everyone LOOK AT THE BLOODY MESS you have left behind in ramadi ............ 30 minute drive though what looks like a Bombay shanti town ......... Disgusting </a> here we go everyone LOOK AT THE BLOODY MESS you have left behind in ramadi ………… 30 minute drive though what looks like a Bombay shanti town ……… Disgusting

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753203 Tobey Tall Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:12:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753203 Haditha Iraq - A Field Base receives daily attacks from harassing insurgents. <a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94b_1176722005" rel="nofollow">Marine Field Base Under Fire</a> You have lost this war for sure Haditha Iraq – A Field Base receives daily attacks from harassing insurgents.

Marine Field Base Under Fire

You have lost this war for sure

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753202 Tobey Tall Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:08:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753202 British forces are expected to shrink from 7,000 to just a few hundred troops in southern Iraq within two years, senior military sources said yesterday. British forces are expected to shrink from 7,000 to just a few hundred troops in southern Iraq within two years, senior military sources said yesterday.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753201 Tobey Tall Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:04:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753201 Yesterday, members of the Iraqi parliament representing all of those parties—Fadhila, Allawi’s bloc and the Sunni parties—held an <strong>unprecedented teleconference with a dozen members of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, </strong>an event organized by Representative Jim McDermott (D.-Wash.). Fadhila’s Nadim al-Jaberi took part in the teleconference, and he minced no words. <strong>“Putting a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops is a very important step in giving Iraqis confidence that the occupation will end,” </strong>he said. Jaberi also added that by quitting the UIA, Fadhila has permanently splintered the Shiite bloc. “We have opened a very wide door in redrawing the Iraqi political map,” he said, hinting that Muqtada al-Sadr’s party might walk through that door and join the new bloc. Yesterday, members of the Iraqi parliament representing all of those parties—Fadhila, Allawi’s bloc and the Sunni parties—held an unprecedented teleconference with a dozen members of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, an event organized by Representative Jim McDermott (D.-Wash.). Fadhila’s Nadim al-Jaberi took part in the teleconference, and he minced no words. “Putting a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops is a very important step in giving Iraqis confidence that the occupation will end,” he said. Jaberi also added that by quitting the UIA, Fadhila has permanently splintered the Shiite bloc. “We have opened a very wide door in redrawing the Iraqi political map,” he said, hinting that Muqtada al-Sadr’s party might walk through that door and join the new bloc.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753191 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:03:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753191 <em>I have complete biographic info on Jake (or Jacob)</em> REALLY? Oh do share with the class. Is he a 75 year old korean war veteran like he says? May I ask how you found out this information? Inquiring minds.. I have complete biographic info on Jake (or Jacob)

REALLY? Oh do share with the class. Is he a 75 year old korean war veteran like he says? May I ask how you found out this information? Inquiring minds..

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753167 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:40:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753167 The only reason Jake isnt serving bravely in Iraq now is because the terms of his probation don't allow him to go over 500 feet from his mother's garage, or within 500 feet of children. The only reason Jake isnt serving bravely in Iraq now is because the terms of his probation don’t allow him to go over 500 feet from his mother’s garage, or within 500 feet of children.

]]> By: Martin Gifford http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753165 Martin Gifford Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:36:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753165 "the insurgency got started when the Americans failed to take control after the overthrow and the Iraqis realized that the American military was not invincible" No, I think they were just playing rope a dope. They knew that America would get bigheaded. They knew guerilla warfare beats traditional warfare, so just let them in and then fight them on your turf. Strategy 101 - play to your strengths and against their weaknesses. Fighters in an underdog position have to think. Fighters will beat a civilian's (Rumsfeld) strategy every time. Martin Gifford. “the insurgency got started when the Americans failed to take control after the overthrow and the Iraqis realized that the American military was not invincible”

No, I think they were just playing rope a dope.

They knew that America would get bigheaded.

They knew guerilla warfare beats traditional warfare, so just let them in and then fight them on your turf.

Strategy 101 – play to your strengths and against their weaknesses.

Fighters in an underdog position have to think.

Fighters will beat a civilian’s (Rumsfeld) strategy every time.

Martin Gifford.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753089 ForTruth Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:44:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753089 "Jake for President" I couldn't help it, that's funny. “Jake for President”

I couldn’t help it, that’s funny.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753086 ForTruth Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:44:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753086 I looked at those pictures of the carnage in Iraq earlier today. I shouldn't have. But I always do. I think it would have ended a long time ago if those images were MSMed. I looked at those pictures of the carnage in Iraq earlier today. I shouldn’t have. But I always do. I think it would have ended a long time ago if those images were MSMed.

]]> By: PonyDriver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3753075 PonyDriver Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:22:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/dispatches-from-iraq-2/#comment-3753075 One of the most misleading numbers is the amount of soldiers killed. This figure does not include the mercenaries nor the support private contractors. Our military used to do all of these tasks so if a supply clerk got killed, he was include in the stats. Now the supply clerk is a private contractor so he doesnt get counted. So if you include all of these groups, the figure is more like 12,000 and not 3,300. One of the most misleading numbers is the amount of soldiers killed. This figure does not include the mercenaries nor the support private contractors. Our military used to do all of these tasks so if a supply clerk got killed, he was include in the stats. Now the supply clerk is a private contractor so he doesnt get counted. So if you include all of these groups, the figure is more like 12,000 and not 3,300.

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